@@Fleyk1707 that’s because anybody smart would be able to figure out Spider-Man’s identity. The fact that almost nobody decided to try in the raimiverse until Peter told them makes them stupid
@@Da_one_tl they not just ruined suspension of disbelief, they ruined all the drama, too. That's why it was a terrible choice. Well, if there were hundrends of terrible choices, it's not that terrible anymore, I guess.
I somewhat like the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. But the rami stories were more simple, yet more complex at the same time. The Spider-Man trilogy is a 3 part Shakespearian saga that teaches us responsibility(1), finding who we really are(2), and never seeking revenge(3). Each movie had a clear moral directive that I find absent in most mcu films.
I like new Spider-Man as it tries to do something fresh and it's not just a "popcorn," movie in terms of stuff. We already got great Spider-Man movies and we've already seen the most iconic scenes. They know those movies are important for people so instead of trying to compete, they just went with their own approach which suits the story & characters.
@@a1pha654 it’s a different character, but i highly doubt they’ll introduce a Mary Jane in the mcu. they’re building up this relationship to essentially make this mj into THE mj of the MCU. She’s pretty much representing the same idea
that’s probably because in spider-man 2, peter had not only just saved her life but was attempting to save everyone when she found out. the whole world was on his shoulders. in addition, mary jane realized in that moment that peter did love her, and spider-man was the reason he said he didn’t. it was a lot for both of them to take in. in far from home, this was when peter thought everything was fine and dandy and there were no problems with what he had just done. he thought he had given edith to the right person and the responsibility to replace iron man was off him. there was no emotional weight on him. the original one was meant to be dramatic and emotional, this one was not. if it were meant to be emotional, i would say your argument is valid.
Guys it is a different universe. Her name is michelle jones and why they call MJ is she is a MJ to Tom Holland’s spiderman in MCU universe. Like Gwen stacy was a love interest in ASM. Why all the hate?
Umm.. as a highschooler I must say this is a much more realistic highschool relationship than the past spiderman movies. Also thank god someone figured it out before a reveal.
How? This MJ compares about Peter and clearly shows it, where as Mary Jane cares about Peter but mainly when he’s Spiderman. Watch the Ursula is the most underrated character video and you’ll see my point.
@@jakehorror799 you're trying to prove a point by telling someone to go watch a video that's obviously made to convince others to have the same opinion?😂
I don't know how this movie hit a billion dollars at the box office but in my opinion it was not better than Spider-Man 2 I'm sorry the original MJ finding out Peter is Spider-Man was priceless we did not get that with the new MJ when she found out Peter was Spider-Man it was kind of lame I'm sorry
@@808izaya I had to look it up but you are absolutely right I actually thought she was Mary Jane Watson but she's not she's completely somebody else from the comics
They were right. You people want repeats over and over. It's not the old days where she'd be oblivious. It doesn't take a lot to piece together secret identities and you have to try and maintain the secret. Nostalgia clingers.
If everyone wasn't so culturally offended by even questions or hypotheticals I would love to see a video made on Zendaya's MJ. Called something like "I this really the same MJ?" With a pic of other versions of her. Now this has ZERO to do with her race or skin color! Nothing. Its about Variants and the fact her name isn't Mary Jane. Could the other MJ "Mary Jane" exist somewhere in the 616 MCU? Variants can be any race, gender, even being from God to a Fish but their name is almost always the same. Sometimes slight changed like "Maya Jane" for example. Still her first and middle name. The MCU MJ only has the one first name and the J is her last name.... Idk its just a thought. I dont want it to be negative. More like what-if this were the case? Like she's a Gwen Stacy but noone is supposed to know so the death scene is that much more surprising! Lol stupid idea.
In a more Modern take even with Raimi’s movies anyone could figure out Peter is Spiderman if they just remember what they see around him or his disappearances it wouldn’t be that hard.
I’m sorry. This is just confusing to me. If I’m mistaken let me know. It’s just… it feels like people in the comments are really immature when they’re commenting on how bad the movie is, because, like… you clicked on a video specifically about this movie… Is it ridiculous or rude to ask that you don’t watch something that triggers you? If it is, can you at least keep these negative feelings, that you’ve chosen for yourself, to yourself?
This was a terrible scene. This big moment spoiled by her saying she knows. Then that means everyone probably knows. The MCU sacrifices these big moments for cheap laughs.
Totally agree. Disney wants to brain washed us to see all their non-sense movies. Now everyone will know the identity of Spiderman as they did with ironman. Enough is enough
Mary Jane: Accidentally Finds Out
Gwen Stacy: You Tell Her
MJ: She Tells You
MJ is built different
Dislike because of Intro
That’s my man
Worst intro ever 😂😂
Dislike because of the title
Honestly, he made it very convincing that he wasn’t Spiderman.
Ikr
Yeah, MJ just smart
"I was only 67% sure" LOOOOL that's so accurate 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
Stfu it's not that funny
@@angelcalvillo-torres1536 bro u done did her lmao
squid game!!!!111!!! :O
her name is actually Michelle Jones in the MCU man
She is no mj she is a fake mj there is no Michelle Jones she is Michelle who will never be a mj.
@@mrx-od3ji dude she doesn't play Mary Jane so its not a fake MJ...her name is Michelle Jones and she is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT character
@@a1pha654 she Is a fake mj she is a mg there is no mj.
@@a1pha654 oh shut up. They know what they're doing when they called her MJ. So just stop
@@Dibab what are you talking about???
Compare this to the emotional weight of MJ seeing Spider-Man without his mask in Spider-Man 2. No contest.
This is pure Disney channel nonsense right there
@@Fleyk1707 that’s because anybody smart would be able to figure out Spider-Man’s identity. The fact that almost nobody decided to try in the raimiverse until Peter told them makes them stupid
@@Da_one_tl they not just ruined suspension of disbelief, they ruined all the drama, too. That's why it was a terrible choice. Well, if there were hundrends of terrible choices, it's not that terrible anymore, I guess.
Executed very poorly. Spider-Man 2 (2004) wins here.
I somewhat like the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. But the rami stories were more simple, yet more complex at the same time. The Spider-Man trilogy is a 3 part Shakespearian saga that teaches us responsibility(1), finding who we really are(2), and never seeking revenge(3). Each movie had a clear moral directive that I find absent in most mcu films.
In soviet russia, you dont tell you're spider-man to MJ, MJ *tells* you
I like new Spider-Man as it tries to do something fresh and it's not just a "popcorn," movie in terms of stuff. We already got great Spider-Man movies and we've already seen the most iconic scenes. They know those movies are important for people so instead of trying to compete, they just went with their own approach which suits the story & characters.
Can we talk about Tom's American accent please!!! Normally I kinda cringe at some British peoples American accents but his is so good!!
Rewind back to "It's our last night in europe" you can clearly hear tom forgot to use american english 😂
Time stamp?
@@matthewowen7721 1:17
Brits say 'last' as 'larst'
Not Mary Jane. Michelle Jones.
just saying this isn't Mary Jane, this is Michelle Jones....Mary Jane and Michelle Jones are completely different characters
Until they introduce mary jane in MCU, if ever, this is the mary jane of MCU, could be just her multiverse variant lol
@@chromaether no like it’s literally just a different character, not a variant
@@a1pha654 it’s a different character, but i highly doubt they’ll introduce a Mary Jane in the mcu. they’re building up this relationship to essentially make this mj into THE mj of the MCU. She’s pretty much representing the same idea
MCU spidey doesn’t pack a punch with themes the way Raimi did
everything is a joke in the mcu spiderman, thats why
*Adolescence: If you don't tell me you like me, I won't tell you I like you either, even though we both like each other! 😐=😐
I literally just watched the tobey reveal and now this one man the emotions from the of Spider-Man is far superior
that’s probably because in spider-man 2, peter had not only just saved her life but was attempting to save everyone when she found out. the whole world was on his shoulders. in addition, mary jane realized in that moment that peter did love her, and spider-man was the reason he said he didn’t. it was a lot for both of them to take in. in far from home, this was when peter thought everything was fine and dandy and there were no problems with what he had just done. he thought he had given edith to the right person and the responsibility to replace iron man was off him. there was no emotional weight on him. the original one was meant to be dramatic and emotional, this one was not. if it were meant to be emotional, i would say your argument is valid.
It's the number 1 Superhero reveal ever.
@@kaymoraa3317 You stated that Jeans O.G.SpiderMans Better reveal arguement was invalid after you explained why you think people find it to be better.
@@bingefox4056 no, i said you can’t really compare them based on emotion.
Tbh it’s the worst revelation of a Spider-Man’s ID compared to the way raimy did it
It fits the MCU style though. They make everything really dopey instead of emotional.
Also, we've seen enough emotional revelations so that's fresh.
Nope, not true, her name is not Mary Jane her name is Michelle Jones
She is Michelle Gonzalez.
@@mrx-od3ji jones.
@@m1chelle7 she is not a mj the only mj in spider man is Mary jane Watson.
@@mrx-od3ji from a different universe dicknuts. Are you dense or something?
I miss how the relationships were more mature in the other Spider-Man’s.
Dude they’re literally in high school. Their relationship isn’t supposed to be mature.
Mature lol Mary Jane in the Sam Raimi movies would cheat on every guy she’s with mature people never cheat on their partner.
How to spot someone that hasn't ever read a Spiderman comic.
@@Damienp3902 this
@@ahhaahaah What do you mean this?
Guys it is a different universe. Her name is michelle jones and why they call MJ is she is a MJ to Tom Holland’s spiderman in MCU universe. Like Gwen stacy was a love interest in ASM. Why all the hate?
What's up with the really loud intro..my ears hurt!!
“LUCAAASSS”
You're here upon realizing her OTHER last name is Watson.
That ain't Mary Jane that's Michelle Jones.
Mary Jane 🤣
Umm.. as a highschooler I must say this is a much more realistic highschool relationship than the past spiderman movies. Also thank god someone figured it out before a reveal.
There you go.. someone finally said it. Thank you
Everything's a joke in the MCU Spider-Man
That intro tho
I almost died
Hhahahahahaahhaaha SO TRASH
Grabe naman sir hahaha ghagi
That intro cringe
Mr. Tobey was the best Spiderman, right guys? Spiderman 2 was the best.😭
one and two were some of the best hero movies of all time
@@TohPhimmasenh Yup old is gold you know😊
I think Toms are the best but I respect your opinion
@@a1pha654 thanks, i don't need respect i'm still 19.😊
@@ariohandoyo5973 I don't what what being 19 has anything to do with it but uh...okay
Of course she became his girlfriend
Her name isn’t Mary Jane in the MCU, it’s Michelle Jones.
Isn't her name in the mcu Michelle Jones? They changed it from Mary Jane for some reason
The moment you realize that Kirsten Dunst is like a million times better than Zendaya.
How? This MJ compares about Peter and clearly shows it, where as Mary Jane cares about Peter but mainly when he’s Spiderman. Watch the Ursula is the most underrated character video and you’ll see my point.
@@jakehorror799 you're trying to prove a point by telling someone to go watch a video that's obviously made to convince others to have the same opinion?😂
Kirsten MJ is like the girl who will cheat every guy she's with
1000000% wrong
@@Thiagofanguitar true.. kristen's MJ is a player
So if they still have that piece of tech can he just show the world
He was gonna say I like you
This hits diff after watching the ending of no way home :(
Can't keep from giving spoilers irl and can't even keep his secret identity in the movie... Toms really bad at keeping secrets
"Mary Jane"
She no no mj or Mary jane.
Can’t believe it’s been 2 years wow
2004😍
Peter: MJ if I died ...
MJ: If you love me?
Peter: I do
2019😆
Peter: I'm Spider-Man
MJ: Really? I was only 67% sure
Peter: What?
damn i got so scared by the intro
Everyone in the comments: talking about spider-man. Me: deaf after that intro
This hurts me after watching nwh
Me too.
I don't know how this movie hit a billion dollars at the box office but in my opinion it was not better than Spider-Man 2 I'm sorry the original MJ finding out Peter is Spider-Man was priceless we did not get that with the new MJ when she found out Peter was Spider-Man it was kind of lame I'm sorry
Yea I’ll admit Raimi’s Spider-Man 2 is better than most Spider-Man movies
Yeah, there is no romantic thing in that movie, Spiderman 2 still the best! Huhu.😭
Its because she's not the "New Mary Jane" she's Michelle Jones
@@808izaya I had to look it up but you are absolutely right I actually thought she was Mary Jane Watson but she's not she's completely somebody else from the comics
Her name Michelle Jones Watson not Mary jane watson
She is not Mary Jane, she is Michelle Jones.
Lol maryjane
Someone catch me up to speed why is she called Michelle Jones and not Mary Jane?
They wanted to put a twist on it I guess. Same with everything else to not have it be repetitive.
And she's black
It's not Mary Jane it's Michelle johnson
Oh you're a famous superhero !?
Offcourse I love you for who you are.....
Buuullshit!!!
I mean she does though if you watch the Spiderman Homecoming movie and see the hints of it.
Her name is Michelle jones
Its Micheal Jones watson
its not mary jane- its michelle jones
They were right. You people want repeats over and over. It's not the old days where she'd be oblivious. It doesn't take a lot to piece together secret identities and you have to try and maintain the secret. Nostalgia clingers.
If everyone wasn't so culturally offended by even questions or hypotheticals I would love to see a video made on Zendaya's MJ.
Called something like "I this really the same MJ?" With a pic of other versions of her.
Now this has ZERO to do with her race or skin color!
Nothing.
Its about Variants and the fact her name isn't Mary Jane. Could the other MJ "Mary Jane" exist somewhere in the 616 MCU?
Variants can be any race, gender, even being from God to a Fish but their name is almost always the same. Sometimes slight changed like "Maya Jane" for example. Still her first and middle name.
The MCU MJ only has the one first name and the J is her last name....
Idk its just a thought.
I dont want it to be negative. More like what-if this were the case?
Like she's a Gwen Stacy but noone is supposed to know so the death scene is that much more surprising! Lol stupid idea.
NWH confirmed her last name is Watson. Just like Mary Jane
@@jeremymichaelalcedo4129 Yeah I saw that. Thanx tho.
YT
@@jon1819 ?
her character is MJ but not Mary Jane
Mari Jane is the one who didn’t like to wear bra
She's not mary jane...its michelle jones
It’s Michelle Jones thank you very much
First of all, her name is not Mary jane :/
Bruh its Michelle jones
phillip
Michelle Jones Watson. A different version of maryjane Watson?
Why did they change the story of Tom Holland’s Spider-Man?
they didn't change his story, they just didn't show Bens death because we all know the story so it would be a waste of screen time
@@a1pha654 no I’m talking ab wheres that liz girl at he liked the first movie I thought he loved her
@@a1pha654 ah that makes sense
@@oliverhuaracha9603 did you not watch the end?
@@jakehorror799 yea I understand now
It's Michelle Jones not Mary Jane
The opening was cringe
WHAT WAS THAT INTRO BRO
All these new movies and reveals suck.
OG early 2000s was the bomb.
It's Michelle Jones. Not Mary Jane!
You reckon will see and Gwen in the MCU
Michelle Jones not Mary Jane man
Remember when Spider-Man revealing his identity to the woman he loves used to be a really dramatic moment? Now its just a joke
Yes because it is one. It being dramatic again and again is boring
@@roberttheronin9803 Maybe one day you’ll learn what the story of Spider-Man is :) Till then, keep on doing some research
@@shermanlo1880 lmfao, I already know what his story is. Time to change it. Thank fuck for the multiverse.
@@roberttheronin9803 Yes time to change it. Maybe we can give him a cape and let him shoot lasers out of his eyes
@@shermanlo1880 Yes
its michelle jones not mary jane
Michelle Jones*
Michelle Jones not Mary Jane
its michelle jones
Michele Jones’s not Mary Jane
I’m sorry I just can’t get into the Spider-Man movies with Tom
This scene….was so corny.
Spider monkey
i dont know whether i absolutely love or absolutely hate this intro
I do. I hate it
To much jokes
Too many that is.
Jokes is what I mean. Too many jokes.
Wtf is that intro?
Bruhh intro
Idk who this spider boy is, but I want Spider-Man tobey
Worst intro 😂
This dude sucks at keeping his identity a secret and makes jokes about it. Raimi did better
stop trying to start conflict you immature bastard
In a more Modern take even with Raimi’s movies anyone could figure out Peter is Spiderman if they just remember what they see around him or his disappearances it wouldn’t be that hard.
It's not. Mary jane
I’m sorry. This is just confusing to me. If I’m mistaken let me know.
It’s just… it feels like people in the comments are really immature when they’re commenting on how bad the movie is, because, like… you clicked on a video specifically about this movie…
Is it ridiculous or rude to ask that you don’t watch something that triggers you?
If it is, can you at least keep these negative feelings, that you’ve chosen for yourself, to yourself?
Uhm, is she taller than him. 😂
Yeah
Explain the joke
This was a terrible scene. This big moment spoiled by her saying she knows. Then that means everyone probably knows. The MCU sacrifices these big moments for cheap laughs.
Why the fuck did your intro make me deaf
The worst spiderman
B-movie school trip Disney channel Spider-Man
Tom Holland was a great spider man, yea Tobey was good but Tom Holland is so good
Totally agree. Disney wants to brain washed us to see all their non-sense movies. Now everyone will know the identity of Spiderman as they did with ironman. Enough is enough
false