How MJ & Ned Could Remember Peter After Spider-Man: No Way Home
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- Опубліковано 6 січ 2022
- "Spider-Man: No Way Home" has altered the Marvel Cinematic Universe dramatically, and we're not just talking about the Sam Raimi and Marc Webb-era villains wreaking havoc in the MCU, as the trailers for "No Way Home" revealed. Tom Holland's Peter Parker is in a really interesting place at the end of "No Way Home," and what happens in his next solo outing is under lock and key. But fans can't help but wonder what's in store for Peter next, considering the game-changing ending of the third "Home" movie. Wondering, for example, how MJ and Ned could remember Peter after "Spider-Man: No Way Home"? Here are a few theories.
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Which theory do you think is most likely to happen?
So nobody noticed the electric shock that happened between ned and peter in nwh when they did the hand thing..
Ned will get jealous that Peter has a New best friend named Harry Osborn, & Ned will become The HobGoblin.
🤔🤔🤔
But then again, does Ned even remember Peter as a Friend to begin with? 🤔🤔🤔
@@mitchandre man thats literally in the trailer
I just want spiderman: got home
I can say that almost every theory is possible now that the Multiverse is in the game
I don't know about MJ, but with Ned, I would go with a simpler route: muscular memory. Peter would simply do the secret handshake they have and Ned would follow, because even if he doesn't remember, his muscles do.
No, it´s simple: the spell would work as if Peter never existed, as if he was never there. So it´s unlikely if something like that happens.
@@HiddenHistory45 Maybe we remember the movie differently, but I think it would work. Probably not the way they're going to do it, though.
Strange only deleted people's memory of Spiderman/Peter he forgot to delete pictures of Spiderman in everyone's phone lol
Muscle memory is a bit of a myth. If someone got their head cut off their muscles can't tie their shoes
@@rodsonvale5933 i wonder if daily bugle kept the "number 1 public enemy" picture (spiderman/peterparker side by side)
1:36 Nobody forgot Spider-Man,they forgot Peter Parker so Strange remembers fighting by Peter's side he just doesn't remember who he is behind the mask.Jameson at the end of the movie makes it pretty clear,he remembers everything except for Spidey's identity reveal.
Amnesia
Thank you @Enzobr791 cause i just said it to myself
So would ned and mj remember their connections to spiderman
Yeah but why didn't Ned approach him. It's like he doesn't remember Peter at all.
@@eruptic6503 Because he forgot Peter,not Spider-Man.Maybe he still remembers knowing spidey tho....
This is Ned's villain origin story. "My best friend promised he'd come back. He never did!"
Here comes The Hobgoblin!!!
That would be sweet
It would be amazing
Fr
yeh good. then spidey kills ned off thats the best spiderman movie ever
It's a little far fetched but I think Venom might be a key to getting Ned and MJ to remember. A piece of the symbiote was left behind in MCU and hopefully attaches to Peter, establishing a mental connection and knowing everything about Peter. Maybe Venom can connect to Ned and MJ to transfer Peter's memories of them. It has happened before, in The Spectacular Spider-Man Venom attached to Eddie Brock and revealed Spider-Man's secret identity to him psychically.
Yeah or the doctor strange 2 movie because the trailer play at the end credits I think it’s connected to the spider man 4 because why would they play it at the end of is not connected every marvel movie it’s connected to a movie that’s coming out next so do yer strange 2 is connected to spider man 4 and in the movie it will bring all the memories back
Something about symbiote hive mind allowing them limitless knowledge. It might even transcend the multiverse since venom said he knew peter despite spider man not existing in his origin universe
cool
@@finnheisenheim8274 yeah
Remember when ned says I'll never try to kill you to peter what if the symbiote comes to him
Peter “Hey dr strange could you make everyone forget mysterio and everything he said” roll credits
holy shit this is 5Head
Onto something i see🤔🤔
Chefs kiss 👌
Yep. That’s basically what peter should have done but marvel wanted to make a reboot with tom holland’s spiderman and make every character forget he was spider man so they can start. fresh
@@Marco.05 i mean they can bring in miles or the black cat or gwen
I have a thought, nobody noticed that mj still has the necklace from far from home? That’s going to trigger something because she’s not going to remember who gave that to her. It’s going to cause some glitch to help her remember or at least trust him
Everybody noticed that. 🤦🏾♂️
Everybody noticed that. That made the scene so heartbreaking
@@dazza818 🤣🤣🤣 they literally mentioned it in the movie. I was so confused reading the original comment.
@MJistheGOAT imagine all of you being dickriders for no reason lmfao I watched the movie twice. Never noticed that.
Because Peter didn’t give it to her it was happy she just doesn’t know why now and happy got it when he was in his suit
The ending was too dark for me. Everyone forgot peter. Aunt May is dead. He doesn't have the Avengers as his family now as they were before. Aunt May's death is somehow acceptable but now peter is all alone. Even Happy is not with him now. Movie was great and I'm glad we got to see Tobey and Andrew but I just can't live with this ending. Of course the movie's name is No Way Home.
Ending wasn’t that dark if the only death was Aunt May. It’s not like people will never meet Peter Parker again but it will hopefully take time and not be immediately resolved in the next movie.
@@KennethV45 vdhdhgg
The ending actually meant he grew up into a real man
people say it’s “dark” because of how it ended but they missed the message
That’s what happens when there are too many bad guy lose good guy win. Sure peter and strange “won” but did he REALLY win ? No. And thats a good thing. Its a lesson he must learn from and he must learn from his mistakes.
And that’s the life of a superhero. Cant have everything you want, there will be loses along the way, whether close family and friends or civilians. If you noticed at the end of the movie, Peter sees MJs scar and puts away the notes he made because he knows that as long as she knows him, she’s at risk. It’s heartbreaking but it teaches us how sometimes if you love someone, it’s best to stay away if you’re not good for them.
MJ and Ned will most likely remember peter, but I feel like marvel/MCU will not make it too easy or heartwarming. Rather, they might make them remember peter once it's too late.
i wouldn't be surprised that sounds like them
Nah mate. If they do that I’m going straight to the mouse. However, instead of GETTING stabbed I’m going to be doi-
@@TexasPig lol! same I'm
really hope they remember peter especially Ned! they were best friends
The spell erases Peter Parker from everyone's memory, like he never existed. Nobody will remember him at all.
@@Stoovey24 you never know what the MCU have up their sleeves
The mind forgets but the heart remembers. MJ and Ned is the closest people beside Aunt May. I doubt any spell will erase that.
Yeah that’s true she knows in her heart that she loves him and knows him
Sure, it shatter them and turn them into villans
Isn't this like Trinity and neo how Trinity didn't remember neo?! So who is doctor Strange in matrix ?!and the necklace in LotR?!
Spell is permanent....but for how long is the question.
@@kaiju-dr5qn I really hope that long time because Peter is going to need them now and ever I want there memories to her back at spider man 4 during the beginning of the movie
MJ remembers, Spider-Man “2” said “we’re Peter Parker, it takes awhile with our MJ but we get there” also MJ remembers getting hurt in some fight. She’s still has the bandaid on at the end and says “it doesn’t hurt anymore” and I think she’s wearing the necklace Peter gave to her. Ned though? He’s definitely magic and he will turn on Peter.
Edit: never had this many likes on a post thanks guys 😘
I really hope Ned doesn’t turn on Peter
@@adastra2228 I think he will, especially when he promised Peter that he wouldn’t betray him… seems like foreshadowing to me
@@squirrel8397 Ned betraying Spider-Man would be the saddest and funniest thing ever
Yeah I notice that the necklace will be the key to everything plus after he left the coffee shop she felt a connection to him
@@squirrel8397 yeah let’s hope he remember him fast so he doesn’t try to kill him I think it would happen
I really hope they remember him and if they do, I hope they won't figure it out too early on in the next movie, so Peter can actually start his new journey as Spiderman alone without all the Stark Tech and stuff.
I really want them to remember it, soon, and well, if not so soon, I still hope their memories remain intact, they deserve to remember him
This is a huge stretch. This ending already sets up so much. You can see the excitement on Peter's face when he sees them in the coffee shop but you also see the undying depression in his eyes that is the fact that they are only so happy because the DON'T know him. This makes so much room for so many other movies.
I was thinking that there could be some way silvie “Lokis variant” could Enter to MJ’s and Ned’s memories and make em. Remember the stuff they had forgot about like she did with people on the Loki series
Yeah or Wanda because Wanda was in her own world when that went down
@@Tribridforever has wanda ever actually met peter? i can’t remember
@@azten3 yeah in captain America civil war and on endgame
@@Tribridforever now that just makes me want a Spider Man and Scarlet Witch collab. These are pretty much in the same boat (emotionally), choosing self seclusion over seeking help. But we don’t know what’s in store Wanda following DS2. Also you really think Wanda was off world when the spell was cast?
@@masterEevee24 yeah have you seen the Wanda vision she create her own world where vision is alive I really hope Wanda can bring the memories of mj Ned and happy back only them because then everyone is going to remember Peter is spider man
Honestly, I think they will remember him. Like Mj’s necklace is gonna trigger Mj’s memory and do something and I also don’t think those memories are gone just locked up and all the need is a key or trigger to make them remember. So for MJ the trigger could be the necklace and for Ned it could be the handshake. I also have a theory that MJ’s gonna remember and then Peter and MJ are gonna do the handshake in front of Ned and he’ll slowly start remembering. Plus since no one knows who Peter is now, there is no way Ned or MJ can get harmed even if they are with Peter.
I think for MJ, Ned and Happy, what might help them remember Peter is small things from their past that connect them with Peter. For MJ, it could be the necklace Peter gave her in Far From Home. If she’s walking by a mirror or someone notices it and compliments it, it could give her brief flashbacks of how she got it. For Ned, it could be some Star Wars LEGO or an old newspaper of the Vulture or something. And for Happy, maybe it could be remembering Aunt May or Tony Stark. These connections to Peter could be so strong, that they end up reappearing in their brains by themselves. If MJ, Ned and Happy are in the fourth MCU Spider-Man movie, this could be their story, trying to learn about these memories and how they’re connected to each other. I think that would be really interesting. As for Doctor Strange, I know he isn’t as close to Peter as some others were, but maybe since he cast the spell, it didn’t affect him and he doesn’t yet realise it. Or if you think someone else could be a reason for Strange remembering, it could be someone like Nick Fury, Captain Marvel or some of the Guardians of the Galaxy. Doctor Strange cast the spell so that the entire world would forget that Peter Parker was Spider-Man, but what about the heroes Peter met that AREN’T on Earth at the time of No Way Home. They could remember Peter’s identity in a future Avengers movie which could cause Strange’s memories of Peter to return. I know people are more focused on MJ and Ned remembering Peter than other heroes remembering Spider-Man, but I still thought I’d point it out.
This is so long bro
But it wasn't just the world, it was everyone in all the multiverses, so I assume even the off-world Avengers will have forgotten
@@thisiswhenthefeelingsinksi6701 to my knowledge, that wasn’t confirmed.
@@cmzf947 I'm pretty sure that the reason the spell was cast again was because the multiverse was opening and everyone was coming to this world, and Dr. Strange made EVERYONE forget. Could be wrong tho, it's been nearly a month since I saw it 🤣
Honestly I feel like this is one of the best theories but I doubt marvel would put it in there
This whole story is just super complex and the ending leaves so many questions but what I definitely think is that either something will trigger them into remembering peter or that this could be connected to the multiverse of madness and their memories can be restored by scarlet witch/strange if they somehow remember (I dont know how it’ll work out itself out by the scriptwriters). I honestly dont want them to start on a clean slate where peter finds new friends or another mj- it feels wrong for him to just suddenly find new family & friends when he has so much unfinished business with the people he truly loves and cares for, its so sad they all just forgot about him
I think they could have mj and Ned remember peter through the gaps in their life. For example, how MJ got that scar on her head, and how MJ and Ned even know each other. For happy it could be how he knew May. In the end they do say that he knew may through Spider-Man but he doesn’t know who Spider-Man rlly is, and then he could be wondering what Spider-Man’s connection to may is. Basically the gaps in their lives where peter used to be would be empty and that could be a trigger to getting their memories back.
Wong still know Peter parker is spider man. When they are talking about the spell before leaving wong said "just leave me out of it". That's exactly what dr. Strange did leaving wong the only one who remembers
With all the mess. With Strange making such stupid simple mistakes…. You think he thought of that? I blame Strange 100% for the deaths, harm to everything. There was ZERO reason to start such an important spell without talking it over. Peter had no clue the issues.
I honestly think that they will remember Spider-Man, I don’t know when but I feel like they will. An example would be the cut on MJ’s forehead and MJ’s necklace. The fact that she has the necklace would make her question how she got it, and who gave it to her.
I agree
I don’t think Peter will go out og his way to make them remember. Because then he would try like he was supposed to in the end of the movie. I think he will let them live the life that they wanted without him. Because he knows that they are safer without him. So he found peace with that, but I think if this MJ is his real MJ he will meet her again. Because it’s destined to be them in all universes. And with her comes Ned.
I’m pretty sure she is the Mary Jane of the mcu so Mj would more than likely be with Peter In the very end
They revealed that Michelle jones last name is Watson so that basically confirms she is basically a Mary Jane but the mcu’s version
I have a feeling that the MCU will use part of the One More Day/Brand New Day storyline from the comics. That if Spider-Man takes his mask off on front of people, their memories of him with them will come back
Did the spell affect nick fury? Because he was off planet when the spell took place. So he could be the one to help mj and Ned regain their memories
Everyone in the *world* / *universe* got affected by it.
We’ve all sinned man. We’ve lied, stolen, used God’s name in vain, and more. We now need to repent and trust that Jesus Christ died for our sins on the cross. This is very urgent tomorrow isn’t promised. Our works can’t save us but Jesus can!
1:28 actually he likely does remember Peter because earlier in the film Strange mentions the spell about having to wipe the memory from Wong about the one party they had to which Wong didn’t remember but Strange did, saying “Exactly.” Thus it’s likely the one that performs the spell is immune and thus still knows who Peter is cause he did that spell.
Strange did a different spell from the original. But you could be right, in that it could be the same spell.
it that case, i believe, strange only made it so that wong would forget, not the world
@@josiec606 yeah but my point was I think Strange is immune to any kind of mind wipe spell because he casted it himself (unless he wanted himself to forget as well) and peters request kinda falls in a gray area but I’d say strange remembers
But Strange said goodbye as if he wouldn’t know who he was anymore
@@michaelwhite8586 Strange implied (or flat-out said) that he wouldn't remember. It was a multiverse-mind eraser. The spell on Wong was only Wong. The spell he did for Peter was EVERYBODY. Not just in our universe. Every universe that has a Peter Parker.
MJ even said at the end that meeting this "stranger" (aka Peter) was "Different". She subconsciously knows something.
True the look at the end of that scene says that she knows something’s up
Yes, she already suspects, I really want her to remember Peter.
@@victorianava7866 facts if she ends up not remembering him in the 4th film that’s gonna suck and be very sad to see
@@BoomRoasted3I hope she remembers it, she really deserves it, just like Ned, Happy and Dr. Strange
@@victorianava7866 agreed
I'm not that sad about the end of No Way Home, because I know Peter can easily be friends with MJ and Ned again or could ask Strange for a fixing spell
Yeah but doctor strange doesn’t remember doing the spell
but strange forgot peter too
Strange forgot Peter too we will have to see if multiverse of madness will give any clues to the spell being reversed
@@mljo9187 yeah he forgot Peter too and forgot that he did the spell
@@WomNyHu yeah I think it’s connected because everything time I make theory’s about the movies they always come true
Mj definitely gonna remember him. She’s MJ always Peters main love interest. They can’t get rid of her, that wouldn’t be right at all. I hope in the next trilogy they make it a special and emotional reunite scene
We’ve all sinned man. We’ve lied, stolen, used God’s name in vain, and more. We now need to repent and trust that Jesus Christ died for our sins on the cross. This is very urgent tomorrow isn’t promised. Our works can’t save us but Jesus can!
I can see Wanda having a hand in restoring MJ & Ned's memories & that outfit in 3:26 looks so cool I still like her costume at the end of WandaVision that's me favorite one & Elizabeth looks stunning. She's going to live up to being called Scarlett Witch. I could also see Xavier bringing back MJ & Ned's memories if he's going to appear along side Peter my question is will Patrick Stewart reprise his role or will they get another actor? I hope not the moment he appeared on screen inn the 1st X-Men movie I was like "Dude, you are Charles Xavier."
Everybody should come back for the next Spider-Man Trilogy 💯
They had their farewell it's time for peter to move on without them✓
@@johnconstantine3726 yeah, I doubt they can reproduce the high in NWH. Just end on that high note.
Bro a new trilogy was already confirmed
Mj should come back more than anybody. mj is an important character in the Spider-Man story. Peter and MJ always end up together anyway
@@kristhegoat3034 That Mj is mary jane Watson though not Mitchell jones
If there's going to be another trilogy either they will remember in the last film of that trilogy or in this phases equivalent to End Game.
They will either need to develop the relationships to the point that Peter could just explain it to them.
Alternatively, lots of little threads could pull together to help them remember, like MJ's necklace, for instance.
Or Peter and Ned’s fistbump
I was thinking of MJ's drawing of peter and maybe a diary if she had one.
Yeah those are still in her room and her necklace I really hope she remembers him or Ned and happy
Really sad, but if he never existed, how will they have done stuff? It’s as if he popped in now.
@@caflee7801 but she has the necklace still if she has the necklace she will still have her drawing or pictures with him
@@Tribridforever I know but cinematography doesn’t revolve around making sense, it revolves around making entertainment
@@caflee7801 yeah o know but there are some clues they will remember him
I think that Mj would be saved by spiderman without knowing he is peter parker but while doing that she will remember swinging with him before and watching the news that spiderman is peter parker because the docter strange two seemed like it was about docter strange remembering something from spiderman no way home so that could happen to mj and ned as well. Or maybe one of them could become evil Ned or Mj and you know as fighting spiderman they start to remember something.
We’ve all sinned man. We’ve lied, stolen, used God’s name in vain, and more. We now need to repent and trust that Jesus Christ died for our sins on the cross. This is very urgent tomorrow isn’t promised. Our works can’t save us but Jesus can!
i think yall are forgetting that even after mj and ned told peter to make sure he comes back and explains who he was, when he was at the coffee shop, he only ordered a coffee instead of doing all that. he thought that telling ned and mj would put them in danger especially after mj almost died in the final battle, so he thinks it better to let them forget and move on with their lives since its safer for them. so i dont think peter will ask anyone to make them remember again
he did try to tell them tho, he started with “my name is peter parker” ofc mj and ned dont realize at first, but at the end of the scene MJ suspected something, recognition and such.
@@moonstudio2002 well yeah. when he said "my name is peter parker" he was getting ready to tell her everything but then he noticed the bandaid on her head from the final battle. that's what made him realize that them knowing was only going to bring more harm to them so he decided to just order a coffee and not tell them so that they could start a new life
@@idontspeakyoutube i dont think he was ready at all to tell them, he might to in the new movie.
I think the next spiderman movie should introduce new characters, Harry Osborn, Gwen Stacy, Betty Brant (more of her), Felicia Hardy, Miles Morales, that way Peter can connect with other people, instead of the same Ned and MJ we've seen in the three previous movies. It's the perfect opportunity to expand Peter's social life.
I could go the route of one moment in time, which is the maid of version of how Peter and MJ made everybody forget that Peter was Spider-Man after civil war. Of course the real version is that he made a deal with the devil and the devil just fabricated the solution. Anyway, Doctor Strange with Tony Stark casts a spell that erases everybody's knowledge with the loophole that Peter would have to unmask to an individual for their memories to be restored. It's how he managed to keep the circle small with the fantastic four and the avengers. An added protection was that anybody that would try to deduce the connection between Peter and Spider-Man would come up with a different answer. You catch Peter with Spider-Man's costume, for example, and the smell would make you think that he was just Spider-Man's costume designer or he was doing his laundry. Peter would have to be wearing the costume and physically on mask for there to be a definitive connection established. Of course he screwed this up during the spider island event in which he displayed his spider powers on live camera, thus undoing that added layer of protection. That's why I'm thinking what if the MCU Doctor Strange built that loophole in to the new spell without peters knowledge? Assuming that Peter would go through with trying to unmask to his friends and girlfriend. He won Stevens respect and Stephen knew how much of a sacrifice Peter was making to save the multi-verse and their world. I mean, come on, this is Doctor Strange we are talking about. He's all about bending the rules and sneaking shit in when nobody's looking.
omg im so glad you made this video i was SO CURIOUS if they would remember peter
I'm just not sure whether the spell eliminated all records that Peter Parker was Spider-Man it just erased the memories. I would imagine there would be tons of stuff that would still be online or on people's phones that would say Peter Parker was Spider-Man
Extremely unlikely
Stark's carefully logged data about Spiderman's whereabouts and how he tracked him to May's house is still there. It only takes someone with access to Tony's records to get it. Or someone talking to Jarvis.
"Jarvis, can you contact Spiderman for me?"
"Mr. Parker is currently attending class, would you like me to leave him a message?"
"Who?"
Because Jarvis isn't alive and is not affected by the memory spell.
@MJistheGOAT Jarvis is in ALL iron suits. And most of stark's smart systems. Even Spiderman's suit is running Jarvis with a girl's voice. The jarvis that was destroyed in Ultron was just the house system.
even if you want to be pendantic about it, the AI that Stark Corp is currently using might not be called Jarvis, it would still have access to all of Jarvis' files and protocols.
@@khaavren3 Buddy that's Friday and Peter has his own AI called Karen. Jarvis was destroyed/transferred to Vision who is, last time I checked dead.
Edits were grammar problems.
@@alaskanaikan3360 like I said, it's all still Jarvis. they're computer programs, they're not actual people, you idiots! Every Iron suit had a Jarvis client, Stark didn't raise a thousand AI entities individually.
You're forgetting the simplest option.
Peter could just explain it all to MJ and Ned himself as originally planned.
Bro if a person Id never met started saying hes spider man and we saved the world I’d think he’s insane
This is literally the most complex option 😂
@@theunderdogfavorite1341 u made my day 😂😂😂😂
if he revealed everything they been through they might think he's a stalker.
explain what? the reality was changed. if he explains it it's become a made-up story. how he's gonna explain this?
mj : prove it
peter : bugle daily has my photos
So excited for the next ones!!
maybe
MJ’s necklace is key to making her remember. He’s going to say something along the lines of “I heard you like it broken”
I don't think Peter would need to tell Strange they have a history. As evidenced by Happy, people forgot who Peter Parker is, but everyone still knows Spider-Man. SO Strange likely remembers fighting beside Spider-Man on Titan, he just doesn't remember who's beneath the mask.
Maybe that is why he told him to call him Steven
@@ralphpal That would be a nice twist strange literally tells him to call him Steven then sets the spell so if he does it helps strange remember him
It seems as if everyone remembers events that happened with Spider-Man, just not Peter (like how Happy still knew Aunt May because he remembered his relation to Spider-Man). Maybe MJ and Ned remember helping the Spider-Men, just not who they were behind the mask. I think MJ, as she talks more to Peter, will figure out again (like she said she will) that he's Spider-Man, and she starts filling in the gaps and slowly regains her memory.
MJ be like: Who is Peter Parker and why is he in my contacts?
Oh MJ will remember a right she still wears the Black Dahlia necklace Peter was planning to give her to reveal his feelings to her
so, literally we will going to see more from Tom Holland, Zendaya and Jacob Batalon...
These trio is really perfectly fit with their character.
I want Mj to remember but I mainly want Ned to remember because he was there from the first spider man movie and I felt it was sadder when he had to say goodbye to his best friend.
I would rather have mj remember than Ned just bc Ned might become a villain and everyone loves Zendaya and Tom
We’ve all sinned man. We’ve lied, stolen, used God’s name in vain, and more. We now need to repent and trust that Jesus Christ died for our sins on the cross. This is very urgent tomorrow isn’t promised. Our works can’t save us but Jesus can!
I’m so relieved that he’s gonna remember all of it, but I still like the way he’s so shy and lives alone.
Anyone recall the Tobey line about him and MJ working things out? If all Spidermans experience similar life events, which it seems that they have, then things should be fine.
True. I have a strong feeling that mcu MJ and Peter will end up together in the end just like how Tobey and his mj did
We’ve all sinned man. We’ve lied, stolen, used God’s name in vain, and more. We now need to repent and trust that Jesus Christ died for our sins on the cross. This is very urgent tomorrow isn’t promised. Our works can’t save us but Jesus can!
things I want in *Spiderman Another Home* 2023 :
10) Kraven
9) Radio Active Spider origin
8) Chameleon
7) Scorpion
6) Miles Morales
5) Stan Lee Reference
4) Mr.Ditkovich
3) Daredevil
2) Venom
1) Uncle Ben
Gwen Stacy?
Wouldn’t MJ and Ned still have texts and calls from Peter. So wouldn’t they be questioning any of this.
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It also could be the pictures in their phones gallery
My theory is that MJ might remember peter is spiderman but a new villain (venom possibly) will tell a different story portraying peter as evil and ned will join venom's side and become hobgoblin. (okay, this might be a sh*t theory but hey, it couldd happen)
Reminds me of that moment when everyone in IG Started the "Who is Peter Parker meme", and I used one of my accounts roleplaying Venom to tell almost each and everyone of them about the "Peter" guy (precisely, the fact that he literally ripped me off a bell tower while exploiting my weakness till I had to find someone else at the same building)
I really hope they do remember Peter
Same man I really want that to happen in the next Spider-Man movie
Yeah by spider man 4 there memories are back already
@@adastra2228 yeah me too if they don’t I am going to have a serious chat with marvel and Sony
@@adastra2228 But I don't want the same peter again with high tech stark gadgets, with everyone calling him iron boy jr again, I just like the fact that it should be like let it go and they start with something fresh and new without MICHELLE Jones and ned, only including Tom Holland's spidey with mary jane watson or gwen stacy in it with some villains like Venom, Kraven or Black cat
@@Tribridforever and whatever you forgot that they rebooted the story and everything, only thing included in the next trilogy is Tom Holland and nothing comes back from this trilogy
I bet Wanda wouldn’t be affected by Stranges spell and still knows Peter. She’s in her own reality atm technically also.
But the spell affected everyone in the multiverse, no? That's how they stopped everyone from other universies coming in.
@@TheViolander No,the people from the other universes were being pulled to the MCU because everyone in the MCU knew Peter was Spider-Man.With the spell erasing that,people stopped being pulled and were sent back to their own universes.
@@Oraculo791 That makes no sense.
People were being pulled in because they knew Peter = Spider-man. As soon as that stopped being the case (the spell erased the memories of ev eryone) - they stopped coming through. You can read a synopsis if you want confirmation.
@@Oraculo791 its because norman destroyed the box that sealed most of the spell
@@TheViolander Its pretty simple actually,there were two spells made by Strange in the movie
First one:Make everyone forget Peter is Spider Man (only in the MCU because there was no multiverse yet),the spell got out of control and pulled in the villains,Andrew,Tobey,Venom and maybe a few other people from other universes.Strange sealed the spell inside his box and when the Goblin destroyed it the spell got out at full force creating the rifts and pulling in *everyone* in the multiverse who knew about Peter being spidey (Doctor Strange says in the mirror dimension fight that an *infinite number of people* would be brought in if that spell got loose).
Second one:Successfully makes everyone (only in the MCU just like the first one) forget Peter even existed,with this spell Strange essentially made a counter-spell fufilling the purpose of the first one (making people forget to correlate Peter's identity to Spider-Man) with the only diference being that no one even remembers Peter.
What do I mean with this ? The second spell fulfills the purpose of the first one,therefore the first one ceases to exist the moment the second one is casted out,and with the rifts being made by the first spell *voilà* the people who were being pulled and the ones pulled to the MCU go back to their realities since all of this was a consequence of the first spell.
Besides remember the "infinite number of people" thing ? Strange is powerful but he isn't god,he can't just erase the memories of everyone in the infinity that is the multiverse.
Hope you agree with me.
I like Spidey and MJ coming together because of the same attractive forces that should be viable now -- just as if -- they'd never met, THEN that spark once rekindled as before? freeing and rekindling recollections awakened. File under "meant to be"!
Yeah when they were talking in the coffee shops the spark it’s still there even when mj doesn’t remember she felt a connection a spark
i needed this to save my mental stability, thank you.
What if in that last moment before Peter was forgotten they took a picture or made a video. MJ seems like the type that would have made a video saying how she loves Peter. She’s still wearing the necklace; maybe that will trigger a memory of how she got it.
What about Vision - in WandaVision he entered the minds of the people in Westview and released them from the spell, and as an android he might remember Peter himself. If WhiteVision does become a fully resurrected vision, this might be a solution
One thing i want to put out there is Everybody forgets Peter Parker and not Spider-man ...
So MJ and Ned could remember that Spider-Man is their friend as they have been very close to him this is how they want to know who's behind the mask 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
This would be the most comic accurate way
Spells being a reality is actually insane. Like imagine someone u loved put a spell on you to forget them, it’ll literally be like how it is now, going day by day without knowing they existed
I was hoping that Peter and Morgan could have a sibling/mentor-mentee relationship.
Who’s Morgan?
@@carsenmaxwell3336 Morgan Stark, Tony and Pepper’s daughter.
Yeah maybe in the future
@@Tribridforever I was hoping to see that now while Morgan is still a little girl, but at least there’s always fan art and fanfics that can be depended for that.
@@johnnyd3158 yeah I really marvel can bring Morgan back or make a show about her on Disney plus
What i would like to happen is after peter leaves the donut shop, Ned asks MJ where she got the black dahlia necklace(bc she was wearing it at the end). Ned leaves and as MJ is cleaning up the shop, she continues to think about where she got it, finally it hits her and she remembers Peter. She leaves and tries to find him, and the rest of the story goes on however
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I am sure that MJ and Ned will remember Peter Parker in the next spider man movie
The next Spider-Man There We’ll be Venom Peter makes their friends remember him and Can’t wait
No Way Home already told you:
Ned does the secret handshake.
MJ just figures it out again.
Considering it’s a clean slate I doubt they’ll bring them back, maybe MJ since their connection and chemistry was one of the best by far and it could be a Love ascends all time or whatever the case may be. I could see them bringing in new characters for a clearly New Storyline but who knows maybe he ends up in MIT and keeps watch over them or something. But if things don’t go back to normal as far as connections wise, I don’t think Zendaya would be back as MJ and if Ned’s back his story line will probably turn into a whole Hobgobblin Thing like a lot of people were speculating
I think mj will be back. Mj is an important character to Peter. You really can’t just throw her away like that. Peter and mj always end up together too I’m pretty sure
MJ could remember spiderman because she still has that necklace that he gave her in another movie.
Thank you so much 🙏!!! I thought all was lost.
Another possibility is when in avengers, Loki escapes with tesseract, it created another timeline. In that timeline everyone still remembers peter as spidy. If MCU really wants those both to remember everything, this would work probably
I don’t want them to remember at least not in the traditional sense, I think he’ll form new bonds with them over time. The whole point of not telling them was to protect them but knowing Peter he won’t be able to stay away for long
Yeah he will follow mj around to make sure she is safe because it’s the close thing he can do is to be with her even they are not together anymore
@@Tribridforever he would do that 😂
@@Pwilliams4000 yeah he would because he can’t stay away from her because they are meant to be when he is following her as Spider-Man mj is going to feel that someone is following her
Just like Andrew.
Peter does not even need to convince doctor strange like that he can just show up in his spidey suit and then reveal his identity to strange since the world forget who Peter Parker is not spider man
this made me feel alot better afer no way home thx! :P
I'm sooo happy there are more spiderman movies coming up...!!!
@@shojo8708 for me I'd love to see all the 3 spiderman come back
There are so many peter friends and future lover that haven't show up yet, i think exploring possibility of new friendships and lover would be more interesting for SSU (maybe Gwen and Harry), especially when Peter had given a fresh new start away from his past
With the rumor of them casting Anya Taylor Joy as Black Cat, and Zendaya ever growing popularity. They might do a movie without Mj and Ned and do one with the relationship between Black Cat and Spider-Man instead. Then will probably bring Mj back later on in their planned new trilogy.
Me and my sister think Zendaya and Ned probably won’t return because while he promised to make them remember, I think he saw that they were happy, and that he figured associating himself with them could ruin things. We think that they’ll use a Black Cat actress, we hope it’s good, we hope that whoever is chosen is fun, confident, and is good for the role
@@carsenmaxwell3336 yeah but they can’t leave us with a biggest cliffhanger like that they need to come back
Yeah but I really hope they come back they just can’t bring a another love interest and a new best friend
@@carsenmaxwell3336 i feel like they gotta bring mj back. Mj is an important character to Spider-Man’s story. Also peter and Mj always end together
@@Tribridforever MJ sucks
i just hope that mj and ned remember tom/ peter parker in there ain't home
Mafesto (spelling might be off) that’d be the best answer as to how they get their memory back… but it’d come at a cost for sure
I agree because why would they just get rid of mj and ned they are literally one of the main characters and one of spider mans favorite characteristic
Yeah if they leaves us with this and bring new characters love interest and a new best friend and make Peter forgot them I am going to marvel studios to complain
Especially mj. Like you can’t just throw away mj. Her and Peter always end up together basically. They the end game couple
@@kristhegoat3034 right plus she is the real mj because in the the move her another last name is waston she is the real mj I am going to be mad if they bring a another love interest in and make Peter forgot her and everything they ever been through together I know Peter didn’t tell her to keep her safe he was about to tell her when he saw that she got hurt and started to remember what happened because when he jump in and save save her he got push out the way and lucky Andrew was there and safe her plus he know that Andrew Peter lost his girlfriend and doesn’t want to lose her too if he can’t save her plus I think Tom Peter can actually save her plus Peter still needs to tell her that he love her too but she still needs to know because she will be missing a big apart of her life
For some reason, I thought that everyone who knew Peter was Spider-Man were going to forget his dual identity, not forgetting Peter altogether. But I was wrong.
I think Ned's gonna become hobgoblin ("my best friend promised he would come back. He never did!") but the he is gonna recover after Peter reveals himself and Ned's muscular memory causes him to go with their hand shake.
Mj can become carnage queen and the symbiote makes her remember about her necklace
Peter could synthesize an antidote of some sort like he did for all the villains and return their memories back to the original memories
She gave a look in the donut shop at the end after he finished what she said
She definitely feels a connection to him, she just doesn't know why.
@@thaddeusskywalker5293 yeah it’s that love connection she feels towards him that will bring them back together. Peter and mj always end up together to be honest. So I would be shocked if the mcu don’t bring them back together
@@kristhegoat3034 She better show in the 4th film. If it just a cameo that will set up her having a big role in the 5th film, I can live with that. But if she has a bigger role, that will make the movie for me!
I really think that Ned will become Hobgoblin in the 6th film. It would definitely up the emotional stakes in a lot of ways!
@@thaddeusskywalker5293 bro!! We legit have the same brain lol. My theory is exactly like yours
@@thaddeusskywalker5293 I think marvel and Sony would be dumb to not bring back mj though. Mj has to be evolved in Peters life. I
You know what I think would be great? Now that the villains have been saved and things are going to be different when the other Spider Man’s get home, Andrew should be able to get a do over at saving Gwen. It would make sense and it would be so perfect.
I think Happy may be the key to helping MJ remember Peter. Happy doesn't remember getting the necklace from Peter to give to MJ but she may remember getting it but not why.
I mean we could think of this as a new start for all three of them!!! That could be fun plus in the post post credit scene dr. strange starting having some memories so it may happen that they try it again in madness of multiverse and further!!!!!! THIS IS GONNA BE SO FUN!!!!!!
Simple, Scarlet Witch just plant the memory to MJ and Ned.
Yeah that’s want I am saying Wanda can do anything she will still remember Peter we all know where she was
I think the next Spiderman film should be a Spiderman and the X-Men film. Xavier reaches out to Peter because Xavier was never affected by Stranges mind wipe spell and is able to convince Spiderman to team up with the X-men in order to stop Magneto or some X-Men villian from revealing mutants to the public or whatever the case may be. In return Xavier can use natural mind powers to restore those who Peter wants to know is Spiderman minds to remember who Peter Parker is instead of using any kind of spells further screwing up anything this time around. The way I’ll see it is Xavier’s powers of course being mutant not sorcery could be a way show that actual mutant powers are safer than magic spells in the right hands then tie into Scarlet Witch somehow being a mutant and not really a magic user. I don’t know just having Xavier help Peter and having Xavier be the only person not affected by Dr Stranges spell would just make the most sense to me. Xavier would want to help but at the same time I don’t see any reason a spell of mind wipe could work on him.
Um no ._.
good video. but the way i see it, is it necessary? Does MJ need to remember everything and their relationship for another exciting spiderman movie to work?
I would like to see them at the end of 4 or maybe in a cut scene during the credits have them recreate the iconic upside down kiss scene because MJ is in love with Spider-Man. As the scene ends and Spider-Man leave she is clutching the necklace that Peter had given her even though she doesn’t fully understand why.
I hope that Dr. Strange’s spell can be undone in the future.
I do hope that MJ and Ned remember who Peter is
Yeah I really hope so too
@@Tribridforever it’s good that marvel is making another Spider-Man movie
@@timothynicdao98 are they though? tom holland said he doesn't want to do other ones
@@timothynicdao98 yeah I can’t wait for next year it’s always like two years next year spider man 4 will come out or I hope this year
The issue about this is that given how Peter's life is going now, and how focused he is on keeping his loved ones safe and himself focused on just being Spider-Man, I really doubt Peter would WANT anybody to reverse the spell. He'd rather stay alone and forgotten, which will probably come back to haunt him now that he's in such a delicate state of mind and that the Symbiote is in the MCU now. Ned and MJ will have to remember on their own to get back into the game. The most likely scenario is that MJ's memories will probably begin to come back little by little and after she remembers everything she's most likely gonna tell everything to Ned, and now with their memories back they'll probably look for Peter before he gets too entangled with the Symbiote.
I’m still hoping they go the comic route and as soon as Spider-Man unmasks himself infront of them, they instantly remember everything
my theory is that gwen stacey is going to meet peter parker at some point, and venom will be separate from the old one
What if Peter does end up rebuilding his life with Ned and MJ? After some time the more they spend time with Peter the more they remember
For Ned, they can jsut make it so that Ned knows whenever peter is active (idk a phone notification attached to his suit or something) and Ned still remembers that he's Spidermans guy in a chair so he calls him and suddenly peter hears him and they start a new bond that way
exactly, all spiderman memories for all of the characters and Avengers are safe. Avengers still know he's one of them but just not his face under the mask. Ned would still know he helps spiderman and for MJ she lost her relationship but would still know the famous superhero of her city
The necklace MJ has from Peter will play a big part in making MJ remember.
We might get a small clue in Dr Strange and the multi verse of Madness
I think that MJ and Ned have faint memory’s of Peter, deja vu almost, they feel like they know him but don’t want to say, as that would make them seem weird if they were wrong, Peter decides to not tell them, not because they are happy, but because he would rather go through becoming friends with them again, as he said “see you around” when he left the shop, implying he will see them again.
I was so heartbroken for Peter Grieving the lost of his aunt with nobody by his side 😭😭😭😭😭is super sad I saw the movie twice and yet I cried again i believe if I se it a hundred times I will still cried like the first time 😭😭😭😭
This actually makes a lot of sense you know I always wondered if Spiderman had a degree he graduated then why would he be working at the daily bugle as a photographer why not get a job Now that everyone has forgotten Peter even exists I think he does not have any qualification and now if he does photography that would make a lot of sense.