Poach F1 producers and let them produce a great motorsport package and broadcast. Make it fun the coverage with seriousness and better-quality production with more cameras. Think outside of the box when it comes to ads and the flow of broadcasts. If not Prime/Turner then NASCAR for its global feed to make the investment, they got the compound in Concord, USE IT!!!! Oh 2:15 I use Nermal Sports Channel 2 too and even sometimes they hit and miss on camera, as for the coverage of no play by play just use MRN/PRN while on commercials with the raw feed it works :). (if you get the reference to a one grey cute cat character in the newspaper comics being sent by a fat orange cat to a country hosting the final race of F1 if ya know ya know)
As someone who's been a Producer, Camera Director, and Camera Operator for Live Broadcasts (while yes on a smaller scale, the main concepts remain the same), the way FOX does their Broadcasts are just extremely lazy and formulaic. It feels like they do the broadcast because they're required to so they can make money, not because they want to. There's no passion
@@CJODell12thats not saying much though these days plus it seems like they don't even want to be the home of Motorsports either. Plus they are also guilty of untimely commercials.
Fox literally makes it sound like we’re kids learning the alphabet for the first time NBC treats us with common knowledge and actually treats nascar like a sport
Nah, NBC has worse camera angles and a campy presentation style. Don't praise them for making it look like a sport when they put 10% of the money and effort into it as they would any other sport. They min max it more than fox does. The also run more commercials but they aren't as annoying as the twinks from Wendy's and curved penis pill ads every other time. Also Rick Allen is an insufferable blowhard. He sounds like a human trombone that just makes slightly flat sounds. He pronounces "Green Flag" as "Grurrn Flargh" and is more focused on the sing songy needle bouncing goofy cadence and tonality that's coming out of his mouth more than the actual words he's saying or what's actually happening on the track. That broadcasting hangover from 1930 where you had to do clown voice effects with your voice to make yourself stand out because the recording and playback technology was analog garbage and everyone would sound the same without it. But high fidelity has been a thing for 40 years now. I literally mute NBC broadcasts and listen to the MRN feed over the video. He single handedly makes the product unwatchable. Same thing for the baseball teams. Every single booth is the same formula: Washed up former player who's slightly relevant + Some douche bag with a strong diaphragm who studied bizarre ways to speak at broadcasting school for 6 years and $200,000 in tuition. And the NFL commentators are the worst. Al Michaels sounds like an air compressor with a leaking hose and all the woman sideline reporters try to do their best michael clark duncan impressions to sound like they "fit in" down on the "manly sidelines" with a deep and guteral baratone. Disgusting.
i feel like the australian guy (i forgot his name) will be very good at giving us common knowledge because of his experience in all sorts of motorsports, even nascar
Clint Bowyer is the biggest example of this, which sucks because I loved him as a driver Fox treats NASCAR as a joke or something trendy NBC treats NASCAR like an actual sport
Fox needs a massive overhaul (Mike Joy retires, Clint Bowyer is fired, Harvick as a 1-man booth, LMC should host the pre-and post-race shows, and SS and JMC are fired). NBC with Jr gone, needs to up the ante a bit. Allen replaced with Allen, Diffey as co-host in some races, replace Burton with one of the MRN guys
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. probably need a two man booth with Alexander as a play for play, and Harvick as a color commentator. Mike Joy yh he needs to retire for all good things he did to Fox well with all due respect he's getting old and I don't think in 2025 next year we need Joy and same old as other people again.
I like the guest analysts. I would like to see a theme of former hated rivals doing races together. (Jimmy Spencer/Kurt Busch, Harvick/Greg Biffle, Randy LaJoie/Buckshot Jones, etc.)
Big problems with broadcasts in 2024: 1.) No Dale Jr. 2.) Commercials 3.) Zoom up shots to where you can see atoms on the car 4.) Dumb segments interfering with race (includes Harvick's word of the week and Bowyerisms) 5.) Cartoons and some dumb graphics Most of these issues are thanks to FOX. Harvick has improved the booth though.
Oh, and Fox, also, are really, really, REALLY ADDICTED about shooting the cameras towards kids. It's annoying and makes me wonder: Is that a dog whistle?
I was doing some yard work during part of the Talladega Race. All three times I turned on the broadcast on my phone, it was commercials. It was bad. They are also too reliant on in car cameras and when an in car camera could be useful, they show the wrong view. It's frustrating.
Well, then he should have stuck to his playboy lifestyle in defiance of the witch. He had it all; hooch, blow, women, infinite fans and sponsorhips. The only reason he changed was because one of his exs called him out on his smoking habit after the witch chased him out
So you just want to put Jr in with the current regime? They will fight tooth and nail and block any and all changes if it does not fit what they think is best for the sport, even if Jr makes a well reasoned and correct argument, he is one guy, vs an entire entrenched regime of people who think they know best. What is needed IMO is for someone new to come in, buy up NASCAR and put the right people in. The France family arguably have lost their touch with the sport. EDIT: ANd let's not forget the TV partners and OEM are also not exactly innocent in all this too
Honestly, NASCAR needs to improve they international broadcast (the Saudi stream), in early 2023 (or 2022 I can’t remember) they have Jessie Punch during the FOX/NBC commercial break, updating the drivers currently state on the race, it was fun. I think NASCAR’s International feed should be a exclusive booth and pit reporters.
As a Brit who watches the Saudi stream and watches other American motorsports and sports in general, the biggest difference between how sports are covered in the UK vs America is commercials are not taken during the races, the only except is on Eurosport (but if you pay for premium and watch online you can get ad free). The only times adverts are shown during motorsports is before or after the race, during a break in action if the programme is showing a full day of motorsports so when there are breaks between races, or during highlights of races where you dont miss the action. For me I dont get why at Talladega for example, they just missed the end of stage 2 by being on an advert break. Nascar has stage breaks built into the races, why not use those for adverts instead of mid way through the races missing the action. I see too often that Nascar, IndyCar and IMSA fans complain about missing action because they are on an advert. And if there is going to be adverts during the races, why not make them split screen so people watching can still see what is happening during the race.
@MarkPentler The only itv motorsport I doo see is BTCC but they have breaks between the races. Also correction, it wasn't that I wasn't alive just didn't watch F1 until 2009 when BBC took over.
One thing that you and so many people say is a thing is the lack of a need for a broadcaster to be there in person. I can't believe that as time progresses we regress as a society so badly. Money is being made hand over fist for executives but we can't bring 3 people to a race to talk for 3 hours? How cheap is this world becoming? It's truly saddening.
The worst thing to have ever happened to Fox was the success of the iRacing Pro Invitational Series during Covid. Every problem with Fox's broadcasts started there. They saw that as being their new model for briadcasting going forward, but it hasn't translated at all to real life race broadcasts. Also, because of their rampant budget cuts, the whole experience feels incredibly impersonal. The old Hollywood Hotel and Speed Stage made the experience feel alive. The sterile environment it is now is just sad. There's nothing human to latch onto. It's not dystopian, but it feels like the level or two before that
Talladega ratings are probably down because nobody wants to watch another fuel saving mess like the Daytona 500 was, nobody wants to watch 2 wide gridlocked packs with no visible passing at 20 MPH off the pace.
Facts. This year's Daytona 500 did more to get people to tune out rather than stay tuned in. What's the point in watching a race when there's maybe 10 laps of action they manage to catch on camera, 190 parade laps and the silence in between filled by Clint Bowyer poorly attempting to be like Darrell Waltrip?
People may be slowly finding out what I and others know, restrictor racing sucks, it is not racing. Boring running around, a few big wrecks and an interesting finale. Not much there. A joke
It sounds like the commentators favor Hendrick drivers. They will do a camera shot of one of their drivers in 23rd, rather than watch what’s happening up front. It’s like they are being paid to promote Hendrick.
The truth is Fox SUCKS and WAY too many commercials. I saw less than half of the Talladega race. I want to watch the race not see commercials on NBA or football. I don,t give a shit about those sports.
I agree with all you say, there are literally more time given to commercials than the racing, hockey, football and basketball solved this problem by having TV time outs, and it's not like NASCAR races don't have at least 10 cautions in almost any race. They could easily extend the cautions they have by a minute or two to allow for more ads while there was no racing. Especially not an issue if they go to overtime. Teams just have to plan to have enough fuel. I also wonder what the Waltrips have on the France's that Michael is still on the air after embrrassing NASCAR by losing title sponsors in Toyota and NAPA due to his getting caught cheating multiple times.. I agree the steady stream of commercials while the race is going on has made their broadcasts unwatchable.
I think FOX treats Nascar like it's a comedy show, not a sporting event. From the cartoon drivers, to the skits on the pre race show, to the commentators - they treat it like a joke. Listen to Clint Bowyer or Michael Waltrip during a qualifying session. They are serious & knowledgeable. On Sunday, FOX has them acting like clowns. They even had Bob Pockrass acting like a drunken fool last year. I cringed watching that!
Move Victory Lane interview back to actual Victory Lane unless you’re at Martinsville or COTA. FOX went downhill when they cut their staff during Pandemic. Mostly everybody wanted DW gone but I’m staying out of that conversation. Oh that was 2019. That was where it started. Be careful what you wished for.
I'm looking forward to what The CW can do. For one broadcast to do all the races and practices. I think it will be very important The CW can provide that same leadership and experience to every race weekend throughout the year.
The REAL reason why TV viewership is shrinking is the "Extended Highlights" videos from the "Motorsports On NBC" UA-cam channel. You get to watch the best parts of all 3 races each weekend in about an hour.
I'd much rather have ESPN, CBS, or ABC back for NASCAR over FOX. They make NASCAR look like a "J-O-K-E". Meanwhile NBC takes NASCAR and other Motorsports events very seriously
The biggest problem with NASCAR racing and really any other sports, is TV. Once it started being televised, it became entertainment instead of the sport.
They need to stop acting like every single race is the first race anyone has ever watched. The other issue is that there isn't really enough non racing to talk about through the week. You hear the same stories over and over and the same this is what a spoiler does every week.
Unfortunately nascar is doing all they can to run off the true and devoted race fans. So they have to keep finding fans. Part of the reason they treat everyone like a know nothing.
Fox's IMSA coverage was also bad and had similar issues they're experiencing right now with NASCAR. Commercials were the biggest issue and it's one that's continuing with NBC's IMSA coverage as well as constantly changing channels during the Daytona 24, Sebring 12 Hour, and Petit Le Mans. Also, let's not forget that some of the races start on channels not many have access to (Fox: FS2 & Fox Sports Go. NBC: pre 2021 was trackpass while it's been Peacock since 2022). Then there's the races being aired on cable instead of national that also causes the ratings to be low. Additionally, with multiple classes competing at each race, cameras won't catch every incident as well as ignore key moments in the race for each class and it leaves viewers wondering what happened to a specific team that they follow. Lately, IMSA started live streaming their races on YT, but here in the US, it's geo blocked
@@julianlymond975 I don't want to sleep but they just made so bleeding boring anymore I want some let go racing boys or a pass in the grass or Tony tell someone he going bust his ass dale sr. Fight with anyone everyone they gotta mess up everything good
Its the same in the UK, we get the RAW feed for the online app & then the TV coverage is a mix due to UK broadcasting laws limiting the number of adverts you can have in an hour to an absolute hard limit
I swear, it’s every week with Fox where they miss something more important because they stick on something that they have been on for more than five minutes. I’m tired of missing a five-car wreck because they stay on Kyle Larson’s five-second lead over Denny Hamlin.
I hope but not entirely optimistic to see somethings return. Like the "cam-in-the-ground" cam. Haven't seen that camera angle in years. Another is the scrolling ticker across the top of the screen.
I stopped watching on Fox last year and started watching international streams because of the commercials. Now I've stopped watching entirely and just catch highlights on UA-cam when it's uploaded because Fox does such a terrible job of filling in time when there aren't commercials, it feels more like a bad comedy routine than a sports broadcast. I genuinely don't see how Nascar can keep fans like this. Viewer's attention spans are getting shorter year by year, yet Nascar's broadcasts are moving in a direction that fails to keep your attention. The only times cars are shown on TV are overshadowed by the other, non-commercial related horrible aspects of their broadcast. I remember telling people who aren't Nascar fans "its not just cars going in circles!" but now I just agree with them because that's exactly what they show us on TV every week.
It almost seems like FOX is doing some sort of automated camera switching now instead of a real human watching the race and deciding what to show. They are constantly showing the wrong thing or switching cameras as the wrong times. I don't see how any human producer would be consistently making these choices.
A lot of people work Monday thru Friday and they only two days off and don't want to sat in front of television on weekends. Weekends are made for going places and doing something difference. So maybe if Nascar was on a week day instead of a weekend maybe more people would watch it.
Nascar just spent $53 Million on a broadcast facility in Concord, NC. Initially, Xfinity races will be broadcast remotely from there. But I expect that will expand to all series. I think that's a bad move.
a detail that was missed: CW is getting the events, but they are not paying the costs of production. CFB was produced by ESPN and the Xfinity races will be produced by Nascar.
The major problem that I have with fox is that they put all the good tracks on FS1 a lot of people can't afford the premium packages in order to get FS1
Maybe it’s just Canada but every week I have to hunt which channel the broadcast is on. Sometimes can’t find, sometimes it’s a channel I haven’t purchased yet. I’m not going to pay for a whole bloody package for 1 broadcast and the online is so confusing I’m never sure I’m getting what I paid for. After all that, regardless of paid channel or regular cable, I still have to put up with commercial breaks at the stupidest times! I’d gladly buy a season pass to ALL races in One location and with commercials to a minimum.... Don’t get me started on the constant car color changes where it takes most the race to figure out who is where.
I had heard how nascar wanted to ( and was jealous of ) be like nfl. They seem to have no idea how to do that. Look at how nfl games are broadcast. Night and day difference. It is truly the product. Little drama, unimportant story lines, hot air or a comedy show. It could be so good.
I mean, we shouldn't rely on any network because, they'll easily gonna disappoint us in a way or another and, CBS, TNT an example if the broadcast don't follow how it was in the past you guys definitely won't like as much as you wanted so, know, all of us must wait and be more skeptical about any possible network who'll sitck with nascar...
The wild part of this is, Fox used to be good. These days they treat it like a joke. It feels like beating a dead horse naming everything they get wrong.
I said this on Eric’s video and I’ll say it here. I really hope Amazon or TNT/CW can bring something new to nascar broadcasting. Fox seems to phone it in and NBC gets a pass for not being Fox when they haven’t really evolved. Side note, it won’t surprise me if NBC sees their viewership go down with no Dale Jr and Leigh Diffey in the booth. That sounds like the perfect recipe for fans to tune out.
I wax 21 when the new broadcast deal came out. 2001 FOX NBC TNT. I remember the newness and excitement. People just had got use to Ken Squire Bob Jenkins for so long I remember all this same talk in the 90’s
Amazon prime can make the greatest move for Nascar in a long time in terms of broadcasting: 1. Dale Jr 2. Allen Bestwick 3. Larry McReynolds All three in the booth
Ted Turner is 85 years old, I'm not sure how much involvement he still has in the company. But I hope that someone who cares as much about nascar as we do does something to turn things around with the ratings.
@@Dexter037S4OH NO IT'S NOT! Just Look At How Well TNT Sports Did With The MLB, NBA, NHL, NCAA March Madness, And USA Soccer Their Coverage Of Those Sports Are Excellent. So It's Not Going To Be A Disaster.
An easy way to add better/more camera angles would be to sell sponsorship for that camera. I'm currently watch Kings NHL game and they showed a shot from the AT&T glass cam. May sound silly but that money would add up, Imagine the commercials we could take away and the improvements we could make once it started to add up
Oh the irony of The Iceberg saying if it’s the amount commercials turning off fans during a broadcast, then one of the UA-cam commercials pops up on this video 😂😂
Here in Norway we have 1/3 of the commercials. We have the American commentators, but when the USA has commercial, we have racing without commentating. My God the USA has a lot of commercials.
The only thing I liked about Fox was the "Crank it up" portion. It was the only time I felt like I was there in the driver's seat, and now they only do it once or twice per race, if we're lucky. The broadcasting talent really pulls me out of the flow you get into watching these driver's. Not to mention how some of the broadcasters sound like an animated elf with marbles in his throat.
the reality is this; if race fans tune out of the televised coverage because of the "out of touch with racing fans" type of coverage, the advertisement contracts will deminish!
I just started getting back into NASCAR after years and am also getting into F1 for the first time. F1 does such a better job of making each round feel like it’s a major event. NASCAR especially on Fox always feel like it’s appealing to the lowest common denominator. They will have Larry Mac explain “tires are them round things on the bottom” from the cut away car then go to commercial. The racing in both series is somewhat boring right now F1 just does a better job with the packaging around it to make it feel like it’s an elite event. Add to it they have the F1 TV app and I can watch practice, qualifying, racing from one place is just more of an incentive. NASCAR doesn’t need to change though like was pointed out. They are getting paid the only losers are the fans who get to watch live commercials with the occasional race interruption.
How NBC can let Junior walk away is as dumb a move as anything FOX does. I go back to the Wide World of Sports days when I was a kid, so Fox’s issues don’t outrage me as much as others. But to not have Junior on the broadcasts is beyond asinine. He’s the John Madden of NASCAR. Imagine CBS pulling Madden from the NFL in the 1980s? Junior is both knowledgeable, entertaining and candid. He makes a boring race watchable and a great race a classic. Heck, his debut “slide job!” broadcast is still being talked about. He belongs on a major network and that network should do all the races.
Honestly I hate the fact that they run half throttle to save fuel at the super speedways. You could fall asleep for the first 2 stages and be fine and watch the last 20 to 30 laps and see all the action you want
People complain about Clint joking around. I love it. I think there should be a couple serious guys and then one guy that's known to lighten up things.
even the nfl on fox is dead too. amazon should take over for fox with: allen bestwick, dale jr, and kevin harvick. jr and harvick would bounce off each other very well (see 2003 at sonoma)while allen brings the "oh my god we got a race changing incident" factor back. this should be the standard, not fox
I watch the races an hour+ delayed on my recorder and skip the commercials. My skip button was worn out last Sunday, and I almost got to the live portion before the race ended
My biggest issue with NASCAR coverage is how confusing it is to follow for the series. You got the series on two separate media coverage. Next year will be worse which is important to bringing in more fans. Very few major sports are taken seriously when you split the coverage. Prime example is 2022 for Supercross/Pro Motocross series you had NBC getting Supercross and 2nd half of the AMA rider calendar going to MAVtv which was an absolutely brilliant season that completely ruined by the coverage that was so bad they had to officially merge the series under Supermotocross to get a new deal.
I watched the first hand full of races this season that I could pick up on my antenna and I didn’t see anything worth paying $60+ a month for cable. It’s just so far removed from what I grow up watching in the late 80’s and 90’s. I did get a subscription with flo so I can watch the cars tour.
I just wish they would live stream on their own platform that's not tied to a digital attenae or internet provider or cable channel. Otherwise I just wait until the Tuesday NASCAR channel video feed upload. Also I can see every lap. Also NASCAR would be better if they just count ONLY Green Flag laps. It's more annoying when we're spending time watching yellow flag laps and we get forced to stage break ends or overtime because of running yellow flag laps.
Theres no heart or passion in it. To put it the way my grandfather always did "i tuned into my commericals and they were interrupted by a race". I understand that making money is a big factor but for love of god at least give us maybe more than 15 minutes of racing and what feels like 30 of commercials.
I will never understand why they spend pre-race talking to drivers then on the pace laps they talk to them in-car. What could have possible changed from outside the car to pace laps that needs to be discussed?
Talking to drivers in car on the pace laps isn't a new thing. TNT and ESPN have done it before. Even NBC in recent years has done the in car interviews. They just have their own ways of doing it. Fox even did this back in the 2000s.
Its not a matter of effort; its a matter of priority or guiding principle. Right now Nascar coverage is guided by a principle of having sponsor-driven broadcasts. Look at the most cited critiques of the broadcasts: 1. Number of commercials 2. Ultra zoomed in camera angles -- Sponsor logos need to be prominent 3. Horrible camera selection -- e.g. the god awful panning onboard camera. Again, its designed to always keep a sponsor logo centered in the screen 4. The sponsored gimmicks -- I'm sick and tired of being gaslit by Toyota All Out. They say commercial free racing bought to you by Toyota, but its a Toyota commercial Its like Fox doesn't care about broadcasting a race. What they want to do is get as much TV time for sponsors as possible, even during race action. Zoom out and just show the race? Nonsense, you can't make out car sponsors if we zoom out!
it does not really matter who makes the broadcast, it's always gonna suck considering you get 5 laps of racing and then miss the next 5 due to a commercial break.
I get they need commercials to make the money as it is right now. But the timing is everything. I hate when they cut out as soon as it gets good like lead changes or good battle or we’re on commercial and a wreck happens. (I know you can’t predict the wrecks but it still drives me nuts. I been watching PL football lately and I live no commercials. You get to watch the whole game. I also like to watch races late so I get a delay and can skip commercials at will
I'm still iffy about Prime. I just don't see them putting too much resources into the NASCAR broadcasts. I expect it to be very bare bones honestly. Their NFL coverage is honestly great for a nap time
Honestly, it's hilarious that even The Iceberg is switching to the international broadcast. Shout out to Abu Dhabi Sports BTW. Also, as for my opinion on NASCAR broadcasts, I think it's safe to say that we should get Rumble on board. Call me crazy and what not but considering Rumble is looking to expand its sports portfolio, NASCAR is a perfect mix considering its blend of a younger and older audience. Similar to how Rumble is. Not only that, Rumble is also free to access, even without any account.
NASCAR needs to drop the races 20% at least, drop the stage cautions, and remove commercials. F1 shows it best, people are gonna watch when the race is exciting through and through with no stops or buffers. Watching a 3 and a half hour race gives too much time for busy laps where it’s more the drivers just have to get through it rather than stay competitive. This bores the fans and then it pisses them off even more when the commercials come on after that and they just end up tuning the race out. It’s forgettable. There’s too many races and there’s too many laps just for it to end with a Mickey Mouse driver catching heat the last 10 races of the season.
Instead of just the focus being on the top 5-10 drivers, they need to refocus on battles in the lower spots that are just as entertaining. And maybe go small screen during commercials.
Long time stock car fan not just NASCAR, I like your take on it. We need to aget back to racing instread of stage and free passes. After I am abut to watch short track event were it is a real race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fox, NBC, and MRN on the radio side need to get away from covering mostly Hendrick Motorsports, mostly Chase Elliott and Kyle Larson, leaving the others on the track out.
What do you think Prime and Turner can do to shake up NASCAR broadcasting?
Poach F1 producers and let them produce a great motorsport package and broadcast. Make it fun the coverage with seriousness and better-quality production with more cameras. Think outside of the box when it comes to ads and the flow of broadcasts. If not Prime/Turner then NASCAR for its global feed to make the investment, they got the compound in Concord, USE IT!!!! Oh 2:15 I use Nermal Sports Channel 2 too and even sometimes they hit and miss on camera, as for the coverage of no play by play just use MRN/PRN while on commercials with the raw feed it works :). (if you get the reference to a one grey cute cat character in the newspaper comics being sent by a fat orange cat to a country hosting the final race of F1 if ya know ya know)
Reduce the amount of commercial breaks, definitely will increase the product immediately after
Reduce the commercial breaks and stop with the childish nonsense.
Focus on McDowell Supremacy!
@@pedroa.baptista4906 Never gonna happen as long as Ad revenue stays high
As someone who's been a Producer, Camera Director, and Camera Operator for Live Broadcasts (while yes on a smaller scale, the main concepts remain the same), the way FOX does their Broadcasts are just extremely lazy and formulaic. It feels like they do the broadcast because they're required to so they can make money, not because they want to. There's no passion
Agreed
Exactly!!
With NBC, there is a lot more passion in their broadcasts.
That's a very arbitrary statement. You should be more objective and not subjective.
@@CJODell12thats not saying much though these days plus it seems like they don't even want to be the home of Motorsports either. Plus they are also guilty of untimely commercials.
Fox literally makes it sound like we’re kids learning the alphabet for the first time
NBC treats us with common knowledge and actually treats nascar like a sport
That was during the Dale Jr era. Now, it's uncertain
Exactly
Nah, NBC has worse camera angles and a campy presentation style. Don't praise them for making it look like a sport when they put 10% of the money and effort into it as they would any other sport. They min max it more than fox does. The also run more commercials but they aren't as annoying as the twinks from Wendy's and curved penis pill ads every other time. Also Rick Allen is an insufferable blowhard. He sounds like a human trombone that just makes slightly flat sounds. He pronounces "Green Flag" as "Grurrn Flargh" and is more focused on the sing songy needle bouncing goofy cadence and tonality that's coming out of his mouth more than the actual words he's saying or what's actually happening on the track. That broadcasting hangover from 1930 where you had to do clown voice effects with your voice to make yourself stand out because the recording and playback technology was analog garbage and everyone would sound the same without it. But high fidelity has been a thing for 40 years now. I literally mute NBC broadcasts and listen to the MRN feed over the video. He single handedly makes the product unwatchable. Same thing for the baseball teams. Every single booth is the same formula: Washed up former player who's slightly relevant + Some douche bag with a strong diaphragm who studied bizarre ways to speak at broadcasting school for 6 years and $200,000 in tuition. And the NFL commentators are the worst. Al Michaels sounds like an air compressor with a leaking hose and all the woman sideline reporters try to do their best michael clark duncan impressions to sound like they "fit in" down on the "manly sidelines" with a deep and guteral baratone. Disgusting.
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.tbh even without Dale they were pretty good
i feel like the australian guy (i forgot his name) will be very good at giving us common knowledge because of his experience in all sorts of motorsports, even nascar
Clint Bowyer is the biggest example of this, which sucks because I loved him as a driver
Fox treats NASCAR as a joke or something trendy
NBC treats NASCAR like an actual sport
Fox needs a massive overhaul (Mike Joy retires, Clint Bowyer is fired, Harvick as a 1-man booth, LMC should host the pre-and post-race shows, and SS and JMC are fired). NBC with Jr gone, needs to up the ante a bit. Allen replaced with Allen, Diffey as co-host in some races, replace Burton with one of the MRN guys
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. probably need a two man booth with Alexander as a play for play, and Harvick as a color commentator. Mike Joy yh he needs to retire for all good things he did to Fox well with all due respect he's getting old and I don't think in 2025 next year we need Joy and same old as other people again.
And apparently NASCAR doesn’t want that because FOX is only losing 3 races but NBC is losing a whopping 7 races.
I like the guest analysts. I would like to see a theme of former hated rivals doing races together. (Jimmy Spencer/Kurt Busch, Harvick/Greg Biffle, Randy LaJoie/Buckshot Jones, etc.)
Big problems with broadcasts in 2024:
1.) No Dale Jr.
2.) Commercials
3.) Zoom up shots to where you can see atoms on the car
4.) Dumb segments interfering with race (includes Harvick's word of the week and Bowyerisms)
5.) Cartoons and some dumb graphics
Most of these issues are thanks to FOX. Harvick has improved the booth though.
Still doesn't excuse Fox at all. They should not have re-signed to the new deal at all
I think the cartoons of the drivers are a good idea but most of the graphics are just stupid
Oh, and Fox, also, are really, really, REALLY ADDICTED about shooting the cameras towards kids. It's annoying and makes me wonder: Is that a dog whistle?
@@Brantleypop I think the same, know, if they made some F1 or WEC type of graphics it would be GREAT!
Don’t get me started with the Wendy’s cut away on the Daytona 500
I was doing some yard work during part of the Talladega Race. All three times I turned on the broadcast on my phone, it was commercials. It was bad. They are also too reliant on in car cameras and when an in car camera could be useful, they show the wrong view. It's frustrating.
This isn't Fox 2001 anymore. It's CRINGE at its finest
Fox is so bad. I just think they are mailing it in, and they are too stubborn to listen to what the fans want.
They've been that way since 2007
I think you mean "phoning it in." 🙂
*phoning
I've been saying this time and time again: we need Dale Jr. as president and CEO of NASCAR.
Well, then he should have stuck to his playboy lifestyle in defiance of the witch. He had it all; hooch, blow, women, infinite fans and sponsorhips. The only reason he changed was because one of his exs called him out on his smoking habit after the witch chased him out
@@GarbagePlateROCyou know CEOs and presidents have kids? Have you seen Elon? So many kids, so many wives
@@votekyle3000the difference between elon and dale jr was that elon was a ceo before he had kids
So you just want to put Jr in with the current regime? They will fight tooth and nail and block any and all changes if it does not fit what they think is best for the sport, even if Jr makes a well reasoned and correct argument, he is one guy, vs an entire entrenched regime of people who think they know best.
What is needed IMO is for someone new to come in, buy up NASCAR and put the right people in. The France family arguably have lost their touch with the sport.
EDIT: ANd let's not forget the TV partners and OEM are also not exactly innocent in all this too
And i will say Time and Time again, you are 100 percent absolutely WRONG!!! That is the LAST thing we need!
Honestly, NASCAR needs to improve they international broadcast (the Saudi stream), in early 2023 (or 2022 I can’t remember) they have Jessie Punch during the FOX/NBC commercial break, updating the drivers currently state on the race, it was fun.
I think NASCAR’s International feed should be a exclusive booth and pit reporters.
The camera angles on Fox are horrible.
100%
They also stopped doing Crank It UPs which are sorely missed (and when they do, it's always the same dam car in every shot)
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.yeah whenever they do Crank it up it's on Pit Road which doesn't hit the same as when they had 5 lug nuts.
So true I recently just watched an old broadcast and the camera angles were dang near perfect.
Who cares
As a Brit who watches the Saudi stream and watches other American motorsports and sports in general, the biggest difference between how sports are covered in the UK vs America is commercials are not taken during the races, the only except is on Eurosport (but if you pay for premium and watch online you can get ad free).
The only times adverts are shown during motorsports is before or after the race, during a break in action if the programme is showing a full day of motorsports so when there are breaks between races, or during highlights of races where you dont miss the action.
For me I dont get why at Talladega for example, they just missed the end of stage 2 by being on an advert break. Nascar has stage breaks built into the races, why not use those for adverts instead of mid way through the races missing the action. I see too often that Nascar, IndyCar and IMSA fans complain about missing action because they are on an advert. And if there is going to be adverts during the races, why not make them split screen so people watching can still see what is happening during the race.
Did you miss the entirety of the period where ITV covered F1?
@MarkPentler Yeah cause I wasn't even alive when they covered F1, I have had only BBC and Channel 4/Sky.
@@maxb148 Oh, in which case fair enough ;)
But yes - everyone hated that.
@MarkPentler The only itv motorsport I doo see is BTCC but they have breaks between the races. Also correction, it wasn't that I wasn't alive just didn't watch F1 until 2009 when BBC took over.
One thing that you and so many people say is a thing is the lack of a need for a broadcaster to be there in person. I can't believe that as time progresses we regress as a society so badly. Money is being made hand over fist for executives but we can't bring 3 people to a race to talk for 3 hours? How cheap is this world becoming? It's truly saddening.
The worst thing to have ever happened to Fox was the success of the iRacing Pro Invitational Series during Covid. Every problem with Fox's broadcasts started there. They saw that as being their new model for briadcasting going forward, but it hasn't translated at all to real life race broadcasts. Also, because of their rampant budget cuts, the whole experience feels incredibly impersonal. The old Hollywood Hotel and Speed Stage made the experience feel alive. The sterile environment it is now is just sad. There's nothing human to latch onto. It's not dystopian, but it feels like the level or two before that
Fox is a typewriter in a smartphone world. It’s too bad NASCAR took away the battle cam from their app. That was my saving grace in the past.
Yep I remember using that option while watching the race.
Battle cam is on there during the NBC races
@@runrafarunthebestintheworldBattle Cam is on there during the Nbc races
@@godisgood1359 ok that makes sense. Even more reason to love NBC more. Thanks you for this!!
Talladega ratings are probably down because nobody wants to watch another fuel saving mess like the Daytona 500 was, nobody wants to watch 2 wide gridlocked packs with no visible passing at 20 MPH off the pace.
Facts. This year's Daytona 500 did more to get people to tune out rather than stay tuned in. What's the point in watching a race when there's maybe 10 laps of action they manage to catch on camera, 190 parade laps and the silence in between filled by Clint Bowyer poorly attempting to be like Darrell Waltrip?
People may be slowly finding out what I and others know, restrictor racing sucks, it is not racing. Boring running around, a few big wrecks and an interesting finale. Not much there. A joke
It sounds like the commentators favor Hendrick drivers. They will do a camera shot of one of their drivers in 23rd, rather than watch what’s happening up front. It’s like they are being paid to promote Hendrick.
The truth is Fox SUCKS and WAY too many commercials. I saw less than half of the Talladega race. I want to watch the race not see commercials on NBA or football. I don,t give a shit about those sports.
LoL 😅
Get ready for the same amount of commercials with NBC................................
@@OGSharpshooter317Actually, FOX Is WAY WORSE, Than NBC.
I agree with all you say, there are literally more time given to commercials than the racing, hockey, football and basketball solved this problem by having TV time outs, and it's not like NASCAR races don't have at least 10 cautions in almost any race. They could easily extend the cautions they have by a minute or two to allow for more ads while there was no racing. Especially not an issue if they go to overtime. Teams just have to plan to have enough fuel. I also wonder what the Waltrips have on the France's that Michael is still on the air after embrrassing NASCAR by losing title sponsors in Toyota and NAPA due to his getting caught cheating multiple times.. I agree the steady stream of commercials while the race is going on has made their broadcasts unwatchable.
wait, what!?! how do you get the commercial free saudi stream???? I must know
I think FOX treats Nascar like it's a comedy show, not a sporting event. From the cartoon drivers, to the skits on the pre race show, to the commentators - they treat it like a joke. Listen to Clint Bowyer or Michael Waltrip during a qualifying session. They are serious & knowledgeable. On Sunday, FOX has them acting like clowns. They even had Bob Pockrass acting like a drunken fool last year. I cringed watching that!
Move Victory Lane interview back to actual Victory Lane unless you’re at Martinsville or COTA.
FOX went downhill when they cut their staff during Pandemic.
Mostly everybody wanted DW gone but I’m staying out of that conversation.
Oh that was 2019.
That was where it started.
Be careful what you wished for.
I'm looking forward to what The CW can do. For one broadcast to do all the races and practices. I think it will be very important The CW can provide that same leadership and experience to every race weekend throughout the year.
The REAL reason why TV viewership is shrinking is the "Extended Highlights" videos from the "Motorsports On NBC" UA-cam channel. You get to watch the best parts of all 3 races each weekend in about an hour.
And NBC does their extended highlights far better than Fox when it's Fox's program.
@@andrewbokal9918 Icing on the cake! 😂
I'd much rather have ESPN, CBS, or ABC back for NASCAR over FOX. They make NASCAR look like a "J-O-K-E". Meanwhile NBC takes NASCAR and other Motorsports events very seriously
how about Rumble?
@@cito1101 NO! I DON'T WANT ESPN TO COME BACK TO NASCAR! Let TNT Do That Not ESPN.
The biggest problem with NASCAR racing and really any other sports, is TV. Once it started being televised, it became entertainment instead of the sport.
They need to stop acting like every single race is the first race anyone has ever watched. The other issue is that there isn't really enough non racing to talk about through the week. You hear the same stories over and over and the same this is what a spoiler does every week.
Unfortunately nascar is doing all they can to run off the true and devoted race fans. So they have to keep finding fans. Part of the reason they treat everyone like a know nothing.
Fox's IMSA coverage was also bad and had similar issues they're experiencing right now with NASCAR. Commercials were the biggest issue and it's one that's continuing with NBC's IMSA coverage as well as constantly changing channels during the Daytona 24, Sebring 12 Hour, and Petit Le Mans. Also, let's not forget that some of the races start on channels not many have access to (Fox: FS2 & Fox Sports Go. NBC: pre 2021 was trackpass while it's been Peacock since 2022). Then there's the races being aired on cable instead of national that also causes the ratings to be low. Additionally, with multiple classes competing at each race, cameras won't catch every incident as well as ignore key moments in the race for each class and it leaves viewers wondering what happened to a specific team that they follow. Lately, IMSA started live streaming their races on YT, but here in the US, it's geo blocked
They are so monotone they cant be hurd over the cars they put me to 💤
Do You Sleep During NASCAR Races?
@@julianlymond975 yes I dnt use to but I do almost every race
@@kellytolliver2390 Well I Don't Sleep During NASCAR Races Because If I Do I Might Miss The Entire Race And I'll Be Disappointed.
@@julianlymond975 I don't want to sleep but they just made so bleeding boring anymore I want some let go racing boys or a pass in the grass or Tony tell someone he going bust his ass dale sr. Fight with anyone everyone they gotta mess up everything good
Wish tnt Sports had the truck series
Overkill with Commercials, Very Little Race Action Shown
“I can see why people would turn off after those commercials” an add literally pops up after that part in the video lol
We watch content between the ads now
One think I don't like is the full screen commercials.
Who cares
Harvick is a robot clown and bowyer is a clown.
Its the same in the UK, we get the RAW feed for the online app & then the TV coverage is a mix due to UK broadcasting laws limiting the number of adverts you can have in an hour to an absolute hard limit
I swear, it’s every week with Fox where they miss something more important because they stick on something that they have been on for more than five minutes. I’m tired of missing a five-car wreck because they stay on Kyle Larson’s five-second lead over Denny Hamlin.
I hope but not entirely optimistic to see somethings return. Like the "cam-in-the-ground" cam. Haven't seen that camera angle in years. Another is the scrolling ticker across the top of the screen.
I stopped watching on Fox last year and started watching international streams because of the commercials. Now I've stopped watching entirely and just catch highlights on UA-cam when it's uploaded because Fox does such a terrible job of filling in time when there aren't commercials, it feels more like a bad comedy routine than a sports broadcast.
I genuinely don't see how Nascar can keep fans like this. Viewer's attention spans are getting shorter year by year, yet Nascar's broadcasts are moving in a direction that fails to keep your attention. The only times cars are shown on TV are overshadowed by the other, non-commercial related horrible aspects of their broadcast. I remember telling people who aren't Nascar fans "its not just cars going in circles!" but now I just agree with them because that's exactly what they show us on TV every week.
It almost seems like FOX is doing some sort of automated camera switching now instead of a real human watching the race and deciding what to show. They are constantly showing the wrong thing or switching cameras as the wrong times. I don't see how any human producer would be consistently making these choices.
most people will NOT watch 2 hours of commercials for a 3 hour race.we have BETTER things to do on our days off work.
A lot of people work Monday thru Friday and they only two days off and don't want to sat in front of television on weekends. Weekends are made for going places and doing something difference. So maybe if Nascar was on a week day instead of a weekend maybe more people would watch it.
They already tried that during the pandemic, the ratings were horrible. Also weekday races would kill at track attendance.
Weekday races don't work.
It worked for the SRX.
@@bearmarsh6579 not really. Bankrupted the the whole company.
I find a raw satellite feed online and listen to the radio broadcast of the race.
Everything started going down hill once they stopped doing victory lane interviews and do start finish interviews now.
Nascar just spent $53 Million on a broadcast facility in Concord, NC. Initially, Xfinity races will be broadcast remotely from there. But I expect that will expand to all series. I think that's a bad move.
a detail that was missed: CW is getting the events, but they are not paying the costs of production. CFB was produced by ESPN and the Xfinity races will be produced by Nascar.
2:14 are we watching the races at the same place? i would love to watch the saudi stream but its constantly buffering for me lol
Talking to one of the track workers after the race a few years ago, he said they pull out a million plus just off of recyling of beer cans
The major problem that I have with fox is that they put all the good tracks on FS1 a lot of people can't afford the premium packages in order to get FS1
Kansas has been on FS1 since like 2014 it's just very unlikely thats gonna change because USFL or MLS is on main Fox.
I miss the speed channel
Except they only put 6 races on cable and 10 on free tv.
what channel is that the one that shows the adfree races
Maybe it’s just Canada but every week I have to hunt which channel the broadcast is on. Sometimes can’t find, sometimes it’s a channel I haven’t purchased yet. I’m not going to pay for a whole bloody package for 1 broadcast and the online is so confusing I’m never sure I’m getting what I paid for. After all that, regardless of paid channel or regular cable, I still have to put up with commercial breaks at the stupidest times! I’d gladly buy a season pass to ALL races in One location and with commercials to a minimum.... Don’t get me started on the constant car color changes where it takes most the race to figure out who is where.
I think NASCAR and their broadcast partners should stop trying to be entertainment and just be a straight sports based product
I had heard how nascar wanted to ( and was jealous of ) be like nfl. They seem to have no idea how to do that. Look at how nfl games are broadcast. Night and day difference. It is truly the product. Little drama, unimportant story lines, hot air or a comedy show. It could be so good.
ESPN needs to come back
That won't happen soon and... I wouldn't rely on that much, ESPN could easily mess up as well
Eh
Especially considering Disney owns the CARS franchise there's a lot of cross promotional senergies there.
I mean, we shouldn't rely on any network because, they'll easily gonna disappoint us in a way or another and, CBS, TNT an example if the broadcast don't follow how it was in the past you guys definitely won't like as much as you wanted so, know, all of us must wait and be more skeptical about any possible network who'll sitck with nascar...
Nah, ESPN held Nascar back that 2nd time around
The wild part of this is, Fox used to be good. These days they treat it like a joke. It feels like beating a dead horse naming everything they get wrong.
It changed in 2007 when they had the sport monopolized
What is this stream you watched instead and how do I find it?
I said this on Eric’s video and I’ll say it here. I really hope Amazon or TNT/CW can bring something new to nascar broadcasting. Fox seems to phone it in and NBC gets a pass for not being Fox when they haven’t really evolved.
Side note, it won’t surprise me if NBC sees their viewership go down with no Dale Jr and Leigh Diffey in the booth. That sounds like the perfect recipe for fans to tune out.
IDK, the past Indy 500s with Diffey had good ratings, not to mention Dale Jr was co-commentator of one last year, and just added to the excitement
I wax 21 when the new broadcast deal came out. 2001 FOX NBC TNT. I remember the newness and excitement. People just had got use to Ken Squire Bob Jenkins for so long I remember all this same talk in the 90’s
Green flag full screen commercials should be the problem every fan decries
Ya that's a major problem. Then they will show all caution laps 🤨
FOX’s broadcasts are unbearable. At least NBC takes the sport seriously.
Amazon prime can make the greatest move for Nascar in a long time in terms of broadcasting:
1. Dale Jr
2. Allen Bestwick
3. Larry McReynolds
All three in the booth
If there was such thing as fantasy nascar broadcast teams, my roster is dale jr, Larry Mac, and DW
Thank the good lord that you aren't in charge
Ted Turner is 85 years old, I'm not sure how much involvement he still has in the company. But I hope that someone who cares as much about nascar as we do does something to turn things around with the ratings.
It's Warner Bros. Discovery so it's gonna be a fucking disaster.
@@Dexter037S4OH NO IT'S NOT! Just Look At How Well TNT Sports Did With The MLB, NBA, NHL, NCAA March Madness, And USA Soccer Their Coverage Of Those Sports Are Excellent. So It's Not Going To Be A Disaster.
An easy way to add better/more camera angles would be to sell sponsorship for that camera. I'm currently watch Kings NHL game and they showed a shot from the AT&T glass cam. May sound silly but that money would add up, Imagine the commercials we could take away and the improvements we could make once it started to add up
Fox and NBC tried that with the "1 laP tO gO sPoNsoRed bY CrEdIT OnE BaNK" and it was hated.
Oh the irony of The Iceberg saying if it’s the amount commercials turning off fans during a broadcast, then one of the UA-cam commercials pops up on this video 😂😂
What You Need Is UA-cam Premium.
@@julianlymond975 Thanks....are you going to pay $20/mth for me to get it??
@@julianlymond975 or ublock origin hehehe
How do you get the Saudi stream?
Ahem sorry for my sickness, cough cough abu cough dhabi cough sports 2. Wut.
Here in Norway we have 1/3 of the commercials. We have the American commentators, but when the USA has commercial, we have racing without commentating. My God the USA has a lot of commercials.
it's the main reason why the US sports overall are hard to watch, it's an infommercial with games in the middle
Does anyone remember how much better the camera work was back in like, 2000's, 2010's? I do.
The only thing I liked about Fox was the "Crank it up" portion.
It was the only time I felt like I was there in the driver's seat, and now they only do it once or twice per race, if we're lucky.
The broadcasting talent really pulls me out of the flow you get into watching these driver's. Not to mention how some of the broadcasters sound like an animated elf with marbles in his throat.
the reality is this; if race fans tune out of the televised coverage because of the "out of touch with racing fans" type of coverage, the advertisement contracts will deminish!
I just started getting back into NASCAR after years and am also getting into F1 for the first time. F1 does such a better job of making each round feel like it’s a major event. NASCAR especially on Fox always feel like it’s appealing to the lowest common denominator. They will have Larry Mac explain “tires are them round things on the bottom” from the cut away car then go to commercial. The racing in both series is somewhat boring right now F1 just does a better job with the packaging around it to make it feel like it’s an elite event. Add to it they have the F1 TV app and I can watch practice, qualifying, racing from one place is just more of an incentive. NASCAR doesn’t need to change though like was pointed out. They are getting paid the only losers are the fans who get to watch live commercials with the occasional race interruption.
How NBC can let Junior walk away is as dumb a move as anything FOX does. I go back to the Wide World of Sports days when I was a kid, so Fox’s issues don’t outrage me as much as others. But to not have Junior on the broadcasts is beyond asinine. He’s the John Madden of NASCAR. Imagine CBS pulling Madden from the NFL in the 1980s? Junior is both knowledgeable, entertaining and candid. He makes a boring race watchable and a great race a classic. Heck, his debut “slide job!” broadcast is still being talked about. He belongs on a major network and that network should do all the races.
Honestly I hate the fact that they run half throttle to save fuel at the super speedways. You could fall asleep for the first 2 stages and be fine and watch the last 20 to 30 laps and see all the action you want
People complain about Clint joking around. I love it. I think there should be a couple serious guys and then one guy that's known to lighten up things.
even the nfl on fox is dead too.
amazon should take over for fox with: allen bestwick, dale jr, and kevin harvick. jr and harvick would bounce off each other very well (see 2003 at sonoma)while allen brings the "oh my god we got a race changing incident" factor back.
this should be the standard, not fox
I watch the races an hour+ delayed on my recorder and skip the commercials. My skip button was worn out last Sunday, and I almost got to the live portion before the race ended
My biggest issue with NASCAR coverage is how confusing it is to follow for the series. You got the series on two separate media coverage. Next year will be worse which is important to bringing in more fans. Very few major sports are taken seriously when you split the coverage. Prime example is 2022 for Supercross/Pro Motocross series you had NBC getting Supercross and 2nd half of the AMA rider calendar going to MAVtv which was an absolutely brilliant season that completely ruined by the coverage that was so bad they had to officially merge the series under Supermotocross to get a new deal.
I watched the first hand full of races this season that I could pick up on my antenna and I didn’t see anything worth paying $60+ a month for cable. It’s just so far removed from what I grow up watching in the late 80’s and 90’s. I did get a subscription with flo so I can watch the cars tour.
I watch commerical free coverage because I'm so tired of the advertisements. It's so insane.
I just wish they would live stream on their own platform that's not tied to a digital attenae or internet provider or cable channel. Otherwise I just wait until the Tuesday NASCAR channel video feed upload. Also I can see every lap.
Also NASCAR would be better if they just count ONLY Green Flag laps.
It's more annoying when we're spending time watching yellow flag laps and we get forced to stage break ends or overtime because of running yellow flag laps.
The counting only green flags will not happen, that changes fuel mileage and the length of the race on a massive scale.
Theres no heart or passion in it. To put it the way my grandfather always did "i tuned into my commericals and they were interrupted by a race". I understand that making money is a big factor but for love of god at least give us maybe more than 15 minutes of racing and what feels like 30 of commercials.
PRN or MRN
In my opinion the systemic issues are Commercials and Clint Bowyer. The rest is simple operational fixes
I'm glad I get the international broadcast instead of what Fox does. I hope Amazon doesn't make it unaffordable for our TV.
I will never understand why they spend pre-race talking to drivers then on the pace laps they talk to them in-car. What could have possible changed from outside the car to pace laps that needs to be discussed?
Talking to drivers in car on the pace laps isn't a new thing. TNT and ESPN have done it before. Even NBC in recent years has done the in car interviews. They just have their own ways of doing it. Fox even did this back in the 2000s.
@@LOLRacing06 I didnt say it was new.. gee whiz some of you are clowns.
@@vinceedwards575 not as much of a clown as you are, politics addict.
Its not a matter of effort; its a matter of priority or guiding principle. Right now Nascar coverage is guided by a principle of having sponsor-driven broadcasts. Look at the most cited critiques of the broadcasts:
1. Number of commercials
2. Ultra zoomed in camera angles -- Sponsor logos need to be prominent
3. Horrible camera selection -- e.g. the god awful panning onboard camera. Again, its designed to always keep a sponsor logo centered in the screen
4. The sponsored gimmicks -- I'm sick and tired of being gaslit by Toyota All Out. They say commercial free racing bought to you by Toyota, but its a Toyota commercial
Its like Fox doesn't care about broadcasting a race. What they want to do is get as much TV time for sponsors as possible, even during race action. Zoom out and just show the race? Nonsense, you can't make out car sponsors if we zoom out!
it does not really matter who makes the broadcast, it's always gonna suck considering you get 5 laps of racing and then miss the next 5 due to a commercial break.
I really don’t like Bowyer in the booth. He’s to silly.
Jr is fantastic.
What's the Saudi stream? Saudi Arabia?
How do I get it?
Don't even watch to many commercials
NASCAR is better off with Dale Jr in charge
I get they need commercials to make the money as it is right now. But the timing is everything. I hate when they cut out as soon as it gets good like lead changes or good battle or we’re on commercial and a wreck happens. (I know you can’t predict the wrecks but it still drives me nuts.
I been watching PL football lately and I live no commercials. You get to watch the whole game.
I also like to watch races late so I get a delay and can skip commercials at will
No one complains about NASCAR commercials during NASCAR races. THE RACE IS THE COMMERCIAL!!
I'm still iffy about Prime. I just don't see them putting too much resources into the NASCAR broadcasts. I expect it to be very bare bones honestly. Their NFL coverage is honestly great for a nap time
I think FOX never really had a chance. Remember the very first race they had was the 2001 Daytona 500.
Honestly, it's hilarious that even The Iceberg is switching to the international broadcast. Shout out to Abu Dhabi Sports BTW. Also, as for my opinion on NASCAR broadcasts, I think it's safe to say that we should get Rumble on board. Call me crazy and what not but considering Rumble is looking to expand its sports portfolio, NASCAR is a perfect mix considering its blend of a younger and older audience. Similar to how Rumble is. Not only that, Rumble is also free to access, even without any account.
I miss the days of the satellite feeds when they didn’t turn off the mic during breaks
NASCAR needs to drop the races 20% at least, drop the stage cautions, and remove commercials. F1 shows it best, people are gonna watch when the race is exciting through and through with no stops or buffers. Watching a 3 and a half hour race gives too much time for busy laps where it’s more the drivers just have to get through it rather than stay competitive. This bores the fans and then it pisses them off even more when the commercials come on after that and they just end up tuning the race out. It’s forgettable. There’s too many races and there’s too many laps just for it to end with a Mickey Mouse driver catching heat the last 10 races of the season.
Honestly, with Dale Jr leaving NBC…I am pretty sure people will relies that their coverage is not much better then FOX
Instead of just the focus being on the top 5-10 drivers, they need to refocus on battles in the lower spots that are just as entertaining.
And maybe go small screen during commercials.
Long time stock car fan not just NASCAR, I like your take on it. We need to aget back to racing instread of stage and free passes. After I am abut to watch short track event were it is a real race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reddick winning in the jump man car helped. My son asked about the r e this week. That never happened before.
Fox is awful why nascar resigned with them is beyond me
Outside of broadcasts, i miss radioactive.
Fox, NBC, and MRN on the radio side need to get away from covering mostly Hendrick Motorsports, mostly Chase Elliott and Kyle Larson, leaving the others on the track out.