My Wife is Chinese and we have been married since 2012. She is a very intelligent and hardworking woman and She was already a US citizen when I met her living in California. Not everyone gets as lucky and fortunate as I do when it comes to meeting your soul mate.
White US citizens marrying other white US citizens also have a lot of marriage problems. They also occasionally result in violence and even murder. I do admit if you marry a bar girl from an Asian country or something similar like a stripper here in the US you are taking a higher risk.
Desperate fools unable to see reality and who project their delusions on the worst candidates. You're not going to 'save her'. She will not be eternally grateful and loyal to you for 'saving' her and helping her family. The're hardened vampires who have lost all feelings except a well hidden disdain for men whose only purpose is to satisfy their bottomless need for money / possessions. Their closest relative is the Black Widow spider who eats her mate after procreation.
I remember seeing the Documentary about this. The man who killed him was a police officer. She never really loved him anyway. She was just looking for a rich man to make her life better. Her parents sister and other family turned against her for what she did. They really liked her Husband. It's so very sad. His Mother was so heart broken over all this. She begged his wife to admit she had him killed but she just lied to the end. Lesson here is to be careful marring a bar Girl period!!!!!
I met my Filipina wife when i was a Peace Corps Volunteer.I was teaching English as a second language (ESL). The was a VERY well educated English teacher and one of 3 that I was assigned to work with. 55 years, 2 daughters and 5 grandkids later we're still happily married. Bar girls are a NO-NO! That guy was an idiot.
I think some bar girls might be OK, but a lot of them become hardened because of the business. Bad things happen to normal guys in the states, sometimes you get unlucky.
this vlogger is in Thailand but he is telling a story about a Filipina or about the Philippines, he has a personal agenda about the Philippines or trying to increase the number of views only but it sounds like a downgrading story to the Philippines in general.
Yes I also remember that documentary and thank you for refreshing my memory. Sadly the young guy went in with an open and honest heart, a mistake many of us western people are probably guilty of. :-(
What a tragedy for the guy's mom. I worked at a large hotel in the U.S. in 1992, the restaurant/bar had young Filipino waitresses whose Filipino friends hung out there, all very attractive girls, but I was told forget it, that they were cold blooded af gold diggers looking for sugar daddy marriages.
You think those girls are.giving their bodies up for nothing? Most foreigners come over to buy a beautiful young girl to cook clean rub their feet. You have to have money or adios
Proud to say I have met a woman here in the states that's a unicorn. Asks nothing, loves with hot passion, sweet and kind, my age and a good looking woman. With likes, experiences, she checks all the boxes I could ask for
filipinas are at a totally different level. You need visit there to find out. Yes there are some very good girls there also but damn phillipines is very toxic environment. @@wanderer299a
You guys were born here? Let's forget about strippers, barmaids etc. How many of you have sisters and female cousins, daughters, in your family. I only have one who never divorced. Not a great rate. Let's not mentioning friends and co-workers who got divorced. Marriage is the biggest risk you can take today. It's not guarantee, and no matter where a girl works, they all start out great, or you wouldn't go through it.
This is a sad story. I'll never understand how these wmn that live in abject poverty get everything they want and they're still not content. He gave her a life that 99% of Filipinos would love to have. All he wanted was her.
How can she be content with an old man. I know he wasn't old, but still he was older. Put yourself in her shoes. Not saying that I agree with what she did. I think this is the girl from The Black Widow documentary.
@@ChochiT0-ddd7fd Its very common throughout the world for women to date and marry older men. While I married my wife when she was 34, she is much younger than me and we are happy. She was a school teacher and married a Canadian whos older than I and he left her and divorced her so I'm her second husband.(she's thai) This is not uncommon in the world. Our story is not so common, she owned a home when we met and I wasn't a home owner. Meeting a woman or a man in a bar is never a great idea anywhere in the world. Bar girls in asia are in fact poor. That said, meeting one can work, if you live with near them and develop a relationship. If you meet them on vacay, and leave the country and expect they are going to be there for you anytime you come back, you are out of your mind and asking for trouble. whome ever you meet, whatever the age difference or not, both parties have to be partners. Not delusional people thinking the other is there for them no matter what the circumstance. The latter is all too comon with westerners that go to asia. Most people who take short vacations don't usually have this issue because a 2 week vacay doens't give you a lot of time to get into trouble with a relationship...USA travelers... Others who get month long "holidays" are the ones you see in this kind of trouble......
Why are private investigators usually better than the police anywhere in the world . If you want justice you usually have to hire some old pi that knows how to make the police and courts do their jobs .
@@bradcheng9799 Men could be happy seeing the fruit of leading their women with money. Are these women happy? If men have no Sexual Market Value, their women will leave them once the money is gone or if they find someone better than them. Just my two cents.
Hmm, I married a Filipina just as I was getting out of the service, that was 42 years ago and we're still going strong. We both know infidelity's is a relationship killer. Neither of us has cheated.
Getting involved with bar girls anywhere, not only the PH, is a very bad idea and will only have a bad ending. If a guy thinks he is going to find a bar girl with a heart of gold and loyalty, it's just not going to happen. They work in a bar for a reason.
I mostly agree. One way to avoid a lot of the mentioned issues is to not be the 'ugly American' that keeps tell her how lucky she is to be married to you and so. You need to do what you would need to be a real friend to her and be understanding and humane to her but at the same time not being a blank check that she can write any amount in and cash anytime she wants. Again, there is plenty of bad marriages here in the US between US citizens. The bar girl issue certainly makes the risk factor very high.
If you choose Bar girl to be your girlfriend or wife the Chances of it working are not good. But give that woman a life of Luxury where she’s got nothing to do all day, and then for the guy to go and work away in another country, he was asking for trouble. It’s a pity that he did not survive and live and learn and have a bad story to tell like many men.
I served in the U.S. Navy from 1981 to 1986. I was in Subic Bay Philippines and I became quite familiar with the filipinas and their trickery. Even at 18, I knew to play along but don't commit to any of them. Looking back, I feel a sense of sorrow and pity for those women who have to resort to that kind of live to survive. I don't blame them and I wish them well and may God Almighty be with them.
As with any woman a man chooses for a life partner they should be intelligent and educated, hopefully professionals with a college degree. Never be afraid to marry a woman smarter than yourself. . There are plenty of those educated, intelligent women in the Philippines IF you know where to look. Bar girls ain't what you want.@@juanitarichards1074
That would have been very entertaing I'm sure. I went there a few times from '80 t0 '86 as a sailor in the Royal Australian Navy. The first time I was still 17, learnt a lot of new and interesting things, I think. That's not due to old age, the memories were blurry before we'd even left the port 😉
Active bar girls are risky group to have relationships with. Have respect for them as human beings, but don’t go looking for a wife among them. Trying to straighten them out is noble, but it is a long hard battle…
The big lesson that I get from a lot of these stories is that if you're going to Southeast Asia, do not get involved with women that work in bars or in a red light district.
@@UTCM I used to have Thai-Lao in-laws. They were very nice. Always something to eat and sense of community. I had many Filipino “best friends” from High school. They gossiped and were backstabbing each other and me. I actually learned how to be witty with men and be more feminine and flirty thanks to them. I know I can get a husband if I choose to.🤗
I remember the case you are talking about. The young wife had a lover and she was giving most of the money to him. When Steven cut the money off they decided to kill him and get insurance money plus an inheritance from Stevens estate......Evelyn was neglecting the children too. I glad she and her chorots were caught,
I traveled through Subic Bay Philippines numerous times coming and going to Saigon and DaNang while in the Navy 1967-1971. I personally know three Sailors and two Marines that let lust override their common sense and all of them learned the hard way it was the most expensive mistake of their life. In fact, I don't know a single American that has had a successful marriage with a Filipino woman. I'm sure there are some, I just don't know any.
It not what you do it's how you do it. If you do it right and will go right. If you do it wrong (meeting a chic at a bar?) Eventually it will end wrong. ❤
I am older & years ago America was also clean, no litter everywhere, no graffiti etc. My husband is from South America, I remember the first time my in-laws came, one of their comments were; it’s so clean here. Sadly that is not the case now. There are trash cans & dumpsters everywhere but people are too lazy & no one teaches the kids not to litter anymore. I see piles of items people dump by a stream while a block away are dumpster (many) in a complex. I have used them & no one ever says a thing, so there is no excuse for dumping. The only way this will change is if people start changing it.
@@danasandoval624 You are exactly right. I live here in the US too and I see litter thrown everywhere by lazy people who just don't give a flip. I don't know what made them that way unless they never learned that garbage goes where it's supposed to go and that would be in a can to be picked up by the garbage service/city. I walk, with a bag and rake, down my street and the next street picking up litter out of ditches just because I don't want to look at it. Some people thank me, others ignore me, and some look at me like I've lost my mind. lol
@@auaiao9 good for you & thanks for caring. I take a bag when I walk & pick up trash. We could turn this around quickly if a few of the famous & music people started talking about not littering. They could do it on the social media sights & it would make a big difference. But the chances of that happening are probably not very good, it seems people just don’t care anymore. At least some of us do what we can.
32 minutes? Brevity is the essence of wit”, said Oscar Wilde. The story wasn’t exactly War and peace. He might’ve sped up a little bit. now I’ll never finish listening to this story
I traveled abroad a good bit as a DOD contractor, but the Philippines, Thailand, etc., I didn't care to go. I know guys that married Filipinas and they all had to take care of the families. Those guys are mostly cash cows, but some have it good. Filipinas are known for treating their men very well IF they actually care about them.
He made a mistake not being with the wife 100% of the time. Then he acts the playboy, so I guess the wife does the same. Terrible tale. I met a guy in singapore who married a beauriful bargirl, had two kids, she really loved him, was grateful and they are a happy family.
I actually loved the walking around town and seeing the sites just as much as I liked listening to the story - you younger folks need to learn how to relax and take it all in, and give this gentleman some respect.
Good I couldn't follow what he was saying because of all the breaks in his story nothing to do with my age maybe my attention capacity getting old is tough at times
In Thailand always always walk towards the traffic so that you can see them and they can see you, more so if you are walking and talking with a camera, Thai's sense of danger is very poor, for example you will see Father driving the motorcycle, baby behind him and Mother at the back, none of them are wearing a helmet but all of them wearing a mask, they just smile when you point out to them the helmet might just save their life in a country that is the 3rd most dangerous to drive in the world.
I dated strippers for twenty years of my life and would've survived it if I wasn't a little tougher than most and on the occasion one tried to poison me I just learned to make the point clear, there's no way I make myself worth more to you dead than alive. After swearing off strippers, a number of years later most girls in general haven't been that much different. Its just a problem having a little more money and being very generous natured, predator types have always kind of latched on to me and I've been a slow learner. Well that is what this guy encountered. I fall in love to easy also, just like this guy but at least I lived over it
I’m Navajo Indian my mothers uncle fought in ww2 met his wife at a Phillipino bar she was playing the piano married her and took her back home,they had 5 children,he passed away 20+ years ago she’s still living at 103 years old
I would blame this poor guy mother, she should never allow that marriage, considering this girl working history - bar girl since 13 , should be never taking serious and never accepted to family!
It never ceases to confound me when old men go to another country with the intent to take advantage of young girls and then feel like victims when they get got.
Proverbs 31:10-31 Living Bible 10 If you can find a truly good wife, she is worth more than precious gems! 11 Her husband can trust her, and she will richly satisfy his needs. 12 She will not hinder him but help him all her life. 13 She finds wool and flax and busily spins it. 14 She buys imported foods brought by ship from distant ports. 15 She gets up before dawn to prepare breakfast for her household and plans the day’s work for her servant girls. 16 She goes out to inspect a field and buys it; with her own hands she plants a vineyard. 17 She is energetic, a hard worker, 18 and watches for bargains. She works far into the night! 19-20 She sews for the poor and generously helps those in need. 21 She has no fear of winter for her household, for she has made warm clothes for all of them. 22 She also upholsters with finest tapestry; her own clothing is beautifully made-a purple gown of pure linen. 23 Her husband is well known, for he sits in the council chamber with the other civic leaders. 24 She makes belted linen garments to sell to the merchants. 25 She is a woman of strength and dignity and has no fear of old age. 26 When she speaks, her words are wise, and kindness is the rule for everything she says. 27 She watches carefully all that goes on throughout her household and is never lazy. 28 Her children stand and bless her; so does her husband. He praises her with these words: 29 “There are many fine women in the world, but you are the best of them all!” 30 Charm can be deceptive, and beauty doesn’t last, but a woman who fears and reverences God shall be greatly praised. 31 Praise her for the many fine things she does. These good deeds of hers shall bring her honor and recognition from people of importance. All of her virtuous qualities are founded on her devotion to the Lord. All of these virtues: Dignity, patience, diligence, generosity, courage, wisdom, and devotion represent the intrinsic values of Godly womanhood. These are not what a woman looks like, but who she is.
Noy sympathy from me. Anyone who marries a teenager they met in a bar deserves whatever they get. Just being young, naive, and having a good job don't exempt you from needing common sense and a solid set of values to have a good life.
Ok to start if you want a wife you don't go to a bar to find a wife, ok in the Philippines you can find a nice woman at a university, church, Library, maybe a nice park ,never at a bar ,because you know what happens in a bar and most woman that works there are not Marriage material,you will be making a big mistake, so play it smart and please don't so so Desperate ,take your time and find a nice woman in Philippines and you will be more happy and glad you did, God bless you all
There is only one thing worse than bar girls in the p.i. or anywhere,that us fast food areas where freelancer types that would not get a job in a bar hang around, remember one dutch guy who brought one from ermita ( old red light district in manila) to puerto galera he was out for a week unconcious after she put something in his drimk, and her goons were waiting to ' clean his place.
I used to work with a guy who when in the USAF in the Vietnam era met and fell in love with a Thai bar girl who worked one of the bars just outside their B52 base. He married her and brought her back to St. Louis. He learned he had married a wife from Hell. She stole things from neighbors. Had sex for money with some of his coworkers, etc. She took him to the cleaners when they divorced. It had been years earlier.
It happens in the USA and every other country too. I've seen so many married men and women kill their spouse to be with another person rather than getting a divorce. ( I'm kind of a true crime addict, Dateline Secrets Uncovered tv show etc) Absolutely insane, murder instead of divorce. Most of the idiots get caught especially these days with all of the technology and cameras everywhere.
I’ve seen many soldiers fall in love with bargirls and once married they get the citizenship they are gone and he is heartbroken. Those girls use what the good lord gave them to get to the US or UK to a better life.
It seems, Stephen was a bit of a slummer. With his cushy well-paid job and substantially High Class roomy apartment with a view , as well holding a British Passport, in Hong Kong, I can't see why better educated, and more gainfully employed single Hong Kong women wouldn't see him as a good catch.
Her age wouldn't have phased him because in the UK the legal age for consensual sex and or marriage is 16 , he may not have realised that it was different in the Philippines .
I know it's probably wishful thinking, but I would like to find a young and beautiful Asian orphan woman that doesn't have any mouths to feed, and that doesn't care that I'm old grumpy and ugly.
Just two cents from the peanut gallery. It would be better to either give a walking tour and provide color detail of the walk, or tell the story of the poor fellow's demise - trying to do both is very painful and neither is accomplished well.
I read several comments and not one gave credit to the mother who pursued her sons dead/murder. BRAVO TO HER👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 She saved one child from a treacherous mother and avenged her son murder! Too many warnings about BAR GIRLS. STAY AWAY FROM THEM if looking for a wife..!!! Also the person committing about pauses during the doc probably needs a better computer or phone. I heard him clearly.
The husband was partying with girls. Most Filipina women were naturally jealous type, they started to have a relationship with that person towards a marriage and they don't want to share their husband and remember it is too difficult to get a divorce in the Philippines. The Filipina was not a gold digger but she threw away the life which is gold supposed to be for her. Filipina women are one of the best in the world.
Two Rules and you be fine in Asia Bar Girls are for " fun only"✓ The reason why you pay a bar girls is to " leave "😂 Stick to these two rules and enjoy yourself😂 Here's another one for free You can't save everyone
My friend father went to manilla in the early 90 after divorce and met a fillipina, got married and he got a phone call to a say his father was stabbed qnd in hospital. It can be rough in the phillipines not this close catholic family society as is often portrayed. It's overpopulated and mostly poor with many imelda marcos wannabes. Best steer clear
The moral of the Story is . A person can want everything you have, and never want You. For him to engage in a relationship with a Minor doesn’t make him Man of the Year.
The deal is the same thousands year's. Some they confused . One give the material of a good life and the other give the feeling of a good Life. As the one do not give the one part of the deal, the other must do the same. Or else comes the unbalance and this has multiple consequences
The "Age of Consent" in the State of Minnesota, USA, is 16-years-old even today. That means a girl of 16 can marry an adult man (21- or younger). I also don't understand why the girl didn't just divorce him. after all it sounds like he was cheating on her as well.
You used to be able to take a girl to Hong Kong and get married as long as she was 15 or 16. There was a video showing a guy that did that. I suspect he already knew she was underage that's why he took her to China to marry her as he know he could not marry her in the Philippines. I believe then you could register the marriage with the Philippines and then the Philippines would consider the marriage to be legal even though she was still underage.
As I remember, her dad went with them that's how she was able to travel out of the country as a minor and also to sign the marriage documents or whatever.
marriage is 18 in the states, but in the past in the south it was younger. Elvis started dating Presila when she was 14 and Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old in maybe Tennesse,
I need to be retired to have the time to listen to this. So i quit my job thos morning. 😆 Steven was worth more dead to her, than alive. He did not have the smarts to have organised & told her how it was going to be. Not just bar girls...all women.
Thanks God for surviving a similar situation on a remote island in Tonga, good intentions on my part but devious intentions on her and her family's part ... when they look at a foreigner, this is what the see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and they play the role really good as if they were trained for these moments ... when I saw it coming, I've hit the road running as far as I could for a dear life ... lucky to be a live 🙏🙏
Apparently,... she already had an out of wedlock child in Davos that she was secretly still supporting, as well sending hush money to con artists, so that Stephen wouldn't know about it. . A Philippine Lawyer friend visited her in Prison, after I shared this story with him..
love the video mate if you are going to Rent a Bike or Jetski or car before you take off always take photos or video of it before you leave and let them see you do it and when you take it back take photos or video of it and let them see you take them never not take photos or video before and after this will save you a lot of money and stress
I talked to my wife for three years before I went to meet her in the Philippines because it was important to get to know her. I wasn't about to just think about being with a beautiful Filipina and just think that I could marry her and live happily ever after. I wish that life was like that for everyone but it isn't. Those stories are only in a fairytale. Maybe he should have talked to her about what he knew and why she was doing that to him. It's a very sad ending for both of them.
I married a Filipina in 1991 in Hong Kong...33 years this coming June... She was a domestic helper supporting her family...She goes to Church twice a week... I'm good....😆😆😆😆
LOL, I worked with guy who bought his wife from a bar too. They moved to the states, had a kid and while pregnant with another she ended up leaving them and going back...
What is now the age of consent in the Philippines? 16 what was it before 12 years old so at 17 she is a adult 20 years ago it was ago it was 12. So getting married back the at 17 would have been no problem.
His mistake wasnt getting her away from the bar scene it was marrying her still when she was 17 and then thinking that living separately is a good idea.
yeah, that was the worst idea in the world, got to keep together in the marriage, especially with an age difference like that, they became distant and he was probably cheating on her.
What's the price of a bottle of coca cola whilst eating noodle soup.when I lived their it was yem bahrt around 2007, exchange was around 67 barjt to the English pound.
I really wouldn't marry an Asian Women or any other Women except my own kind; which is European. To me it's unnatural, and doesn't feel right. But to each his or her own.
The story is interesting, and as much as I enjoy the scenery, I wish you would sit the F down and tell the damn story. It’s like hanging out with someone whose mind is somewhere else. I get enough of that from my own family. You should prerecord your walk and then narrate the story at home over the video during editing or something so you can do the story justice, cuz the story deserves it and we viewers can appreciate it better. All the best to ya brother. 👍
What a Tragedy! He was simply young and naive. It was a Huge mistake. That’s Sad and my heart goes to his parents and children. Thank you for sharing this story!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Part two based on the book his mother wrote ua-cam.com/video/sYmP0C4HsmU/v-deo.html
My Wife is Chinese and we have been married since 2012. She is a very intelligent and hardworking woman and She was already a US citizen when I met her living in California. Not everyone gets as lucky and fortunate as I do when it comes to meeting your soul mate.
Your very right !
White US citizens marrying other white US citizens also have a lot of marriage problems. They also occasionally result in violence and even murder.
I do admit if you marry a bar girl from an Asian country or something similar like a stripper here in the US you are taking a higher risk.
Desperate fools unable to see reality and who project their delusions on the worst candidates. You're not going to 'save her'. She will not be eternally grateful and loyal to you for 'saving' her and helping her family. The're hardened vampires who have lost all feelings except a well hidden disdain for men whose only purpose is to satisfy their bottomless need for money / possessions. Their closest relative is the Black Widow spider who eats her mate after
procreation.
You need to work on your patience buddy!
I remember seeing the Documentary about this. The man who killed him was a police officer. She never really loved him anyway. She was just looking for a rich man to make her life better. Her parents sister and other family turned against her for what she did. They really liked her Husband. It's so very sad. His Mother was so heart broken over all this. She begged his wife to admit she had him killed but she just lied to the end. Lesson here is to be careful marring a bar Girl period!!!!!
Yes was very sad . The boyfriend was a security guard .
Is that The Black Widow documentary?
They all lie to the very end In the Philippines
Ps: what does the bar Girl on her monthly ""PERIOD"" has to do with mariage.?............
@@ChochiT0-ddd7fd No, not even close.
I met my Filipina wife when i was a Peace Corps Volunteer.I was teaching English as a second language (ESL). The was a VERY well educated English teacher and one of 3 that I was assigned to work with. 55 years, 2 daughters and 5 grandkids later we're still happily married. Bar girls are a NO-NO! That guy was an idiot.
Great story !
I think some bar girls might be OK, but a lot of them become hardened because of the business. Bad things happen to normal guys in the states, sometimes you get unlucky.
this vlogger is in Thailand but he is telling a story about a Filipina or about the Philippines, he has a personal agenda about the Philippines or trying to increase the number of views only but it sounds like a downgrading story to the Philippines in general.
Most anyone with commen sense could see the future
Look at the channel I tell stories from all around Asia . Not just the Philippines'. But it seem like people are more interested in the Philipines ..
Yes I also remember that documentary and thank you for refreshing my memory. Sadly the young guy went in with an open and honest heart, a mistake many of us western people are probably guilty of. :-(
Yes , many go down that rabbit hole . Most come out though . This was just tragic !
He was a predator plain and simple.
lol a little knowledge is dangerous@@onecompass7290
What a tragedy for the guy's mom. I worked at a large hotel in the U.S. in 1992, the restaurant/bar had young Filipino waitresses whose Filipino friends hung out there, all very attractive girls, but I was told forget it, that they were cold blooded af gold diggers looking for sugar daddy marriages.
You think those girls are.giving their bodies up for nothing? Most foreigners come over to buy a beautiful young girl to cook clean rub their feet. You have to have money or adios
Same worldwide, not exclusive to filipinas
The Song says...Beauty Only Skin Deep"
Rarely does Beauty Enter
The Rest of the Body! So Sad!
Proud to say I have met a woman here in the states that's a unicorn. Asks nothing, loves with hot passion, sweet and kind, my age and a good looking woman.
With likes, experiences, she checks all the boxes I could ask for
filipinas are at a totally different level. You need visit there to find out. Yes there are some very good girls there also but damn phillipines is very toxic environment. @@wanderer299a
Not much different than marrying a stripper here in the states. It's dangerous business.
For sure .
or a white business woman.
Anyone can change,,stick your @!#$ out and hope for best,,doesn't matter color race,,
Strippers in USA are totally different to Filipina bar girls
You guys were born here? Let's forget about strippers, barmaids etc. How many of you have sisters and female cousins, daughters, in your family. I only have one who never divorced. Not a great rate. Let's not mentioning friends and co-workers who got divorced. Marriage is the biggest risk you can take today. It's not guarantee, and no matter where a girl works, they all start out great, or you wouldn't go through it.
This is a sad story. I'll never understand how these wmn that live in abject poverty get everything they want and they're still not content. He gave her a life that 99% of Filipinos would love to have. All he wanted was her.
So true .
How can she be content with an old man. I know he wasn't old, but still he was older. Put yourself in her shoes. Not saying that I agree with what she did. I think this is the girl from The Black Widow documentary.
@@ChochiT0-ddd7fd Its very common throughout the world for women to date and marry older men. While I married my wife when she was 34, she is much younger than me and we are happy. She was a school teacher and married a Canadian whos older than I and he left her and divorced her so I'm her second husband.(she's thai)
This is not uncommon in the world. Our story is not so common, she owned a home when we met and I wasn't a home owner.
Meeting a woman or a man in a bar is never a great idea anywhere in the world. Bar girls in asia are in fact poor. That said, meeting one can work, if you live with near them and develop a relationship. If you meet them on vacay, and leave the country and expect they are going to be there for you anytime you come back, you are out of your mind and asking for trouble.
whome ever you meet, whatever the age difference or not, both parties have to be partners. Not delusional people thinking the other is there for them no matter what the circumstance. The latter is all too comon with westerners that go to asia. Most people who take short vacations don't usually have this issue because a 2 week vacay doens't give you a lot of time to get into trouble with a relationship...USA travelers... Others who get month long "holidays" are the ones you see in this kind of trouble......
You cannot buy love, only lust for a night
She thought she was marrying a rock star but later realized he's just a creepy loser weirdo.
If you meet her on the streets LEAVE HER THERE.
:))
Why are private investigators usually better than the police anywhere in the world . If you want justice you usually have to hire some old pi that knows how to make the police and courts do their jobs .
The hands are not tied plus there funding is better .
and the investigators have only one case to follow... @@UTCM
I've said it a million times, " You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl."
Damaged goods
Heard that more than once .0
Yeah, many thousands of people say that all the time it’s a boring cliché I live in Thailand and I know lots of guys happily married to girls sorry
so true
@@bradcheng9799 Men could be happy seeing the fruit of leading their women with money. Are these women happy? If men have no Sexual Market Value, their women will leave them once the money is gone or if they find someone better than them. Just my two cents.
Hmm, I married a Filipina just as I was getting out of the service, that was 42 years ago and we're still going strong. We both know infidelity's is a relationship killer. Neither of us has cheated.
Getting involved with bar girls anywhere, not only the PH, is a very bad idea and will only have a bad ending. If a guy thinks he is going to find a bar girl with a heart of gold and loyalty, it's just not going to happen. They work in a bar for a reason.
They have a heart full of gold your going to be buying it .
I mostly agree. One way to avoid a lot of the mentioned issues is to not be the 'ugly American' that keeps tell her how lucky she is to be married to you and so. You need to do what you would need to be a real friend to her and be understanding and humane to her but at the same time not being a blank check that she can write any amount in and cash anytime she wants.
Again, there is plenty of bad marriages here in the US between US citizens. The bar girl issue certainly makes the risk factor very high.
If you choose Bar girl to be your girlfriend or wife the Chances of it working are not good. But give that woman a life of Luxury where she’s got nothing to do all day, and then for the guy to go and work away in another country, he was asking for trouble. It’s a pity that he did not survive and live and learn and have a bad story to tell like many men.
So true !
I served in the U.S. Navy from 1981 to 1986. I was in Subic Bay Philippines and I became quite familiar with the filipinas and their trickery. Even at 18, I knew to play along but don't commit to any of them. Looking back, I feel a sense of sorrow and pity for those women who have to resort to that kind of live to survive. I don't blame them and I wish them well and may God Almighty be with them.
I spent a life time working the Asia Pacific, and for kicks & giggles decided to go to Subic Bay. You must mean Angles City.
We have many Filpinas in NZ who have married Kiwi guys and most of them have long happy marriages.
As with any woman a man chooses for a life partner they should be intelligent and educated, hopefully professionals with a college degree. Never be afraid to marry a woman smarter than yourself. . There are plenty of those educated, intelligent women in the Philippines IF you know where to look. Bar girls ain't what you want.@@juanitarichards1074
That would have been very entertaing I'm sure. I went there a few times from '80 t0 '86 as a sailor in the Royal Australian Navy. The first time I was still 17, learnt a lot of new and interesting things, I think. That's not due to old age, the memories were blurry before we'd even left the port 😉
Active bar girls are risky group to have relationships with. Have respect for them as human beings, but don’t go looking for a wife among them. Trying to straighten them out is noble, but it is a long hard battle…
The big lesson that I get from a lot of these stories is that if you're going to Southeast Asia, do not get involved with women that work in bars or in a red light district.
true
That should be a given. I thought everyone knew that, but I guess people still believe in Miracles.
Get nurses.
@@nonino1644 yes most of them are very nice .
@@UTCM I used to have Thai-Lao in-laws. They were very nice. Always something to eat and sense of community. I had many Filipino “best friends” from High school. They gossiped and were backstabbing each other and me. I actually learned how to be witty with men and be more feminine and flirty thanks to them. I know I can get a husband if I choose to.🤗
I remember this case, there was a documentary about it. I remember the words the mother said after the conviction "I take no pleasure out of this"
Yes I watched it ! I felt bad for her
I remember the case you are talking about. The young wife had a lover and she was giving most of the money to him. When Steven cut the money off they decided to kill him and get insurance money plus an inheritance from Stevens estate......Evelyn was neglecting the children too. I glad she and her chorots were caught,
Yes thats exactly what happened .
You mean she had a pimp,
No.....he was her lover but he was probably using her for money and would have dumped her once the money ran out.@@JoeLazarus-v3y
I traveled through Subic Bay Philippines numerous times coming and going to Saigon and DaNang while in the Navy 1967-1971. I personally know three Sailors and two Marines that let lust override their common sense and all of them learned the hard way it was the most expensive mistake of their life. In fact, I don't know a single American that has had a successful marriage with a Filipino woman. I'm sure there are some, I just don't know any.
I think there are a few but you never know how things end up
There are many successful relationships in the Philippines. There are also several that end just like this story, and everything in between.
Going on 23 years with no issues, and she is the bread winner
It not what you do it's how you do it. If you do it right and will go right. If you do it wrong (meeting a chic at a bar?) Eventually it will end wrong. ❤
there are lots of them happily married servicemen; just not married to bar girls who thru (_)experience know what type of banana they're happy with
This story has been on Internet ages ago. It was heart wrencheng to watch the murder of the boy. The girl is still in jail for life.
Yes it was and yes she is !!!
I'm impressed at how clean this place is, no litter on the streets.
Chiangmai is very clean in most areas .
I am older & years ago America was also clean, no litter everywhere, no graffiti etc. My husband is from South America, I remember the first time my in-laws came, one of their comments were; it’s so clean here. Sadly that is not the case now.
There are trash cans & dumpsters everywhere but people are too lazy & no one teaches the kids not to litter anymore. I see piles of items people dump by a stream while a block away are dumpster (many) in a complex. I have used them & no one ever says a thing, so there is no excuse for dumping.
The only way this will change is if people start changing it.
@@danasandoval624 You are exactly right. I live here in the US too and I see litter thrown everywhere by lazy people who just don't give a flip. I don't know what made them that way unless they never learned that garbage goes where it's supposed to go and that would be in a can to be picked up by the garbage service/city. I walk, with a bag and rake, down my street and the next street picking up litter out of ditches just because I don't want to look at it. Some people thank me, others ignore me, and some look at me like I've lost my mind. lol
@@auaiao9 good for you & thanks for caring. I take a bag when I walk & pick up trash.
We could turn this around quickly if a few of the famous & music people started talking about not littering. They could do it on the social media sights & it would make a big difference. But the chances of that happening are probably not very good, it seems people just don’t care anymore. At least some of us do what we can.
No blacks
32 minutes? Brevity is the essence of wit”, said Oscar Wilde. The story wasn’t exactly War and peace. He might’ve sped up a little bit. now I’ll never finish listening to this story
I traveled abroad a good bit as a DOD contractor, but the Philippines, Thailand, etc., I didn't care to go. I know guys that married Filipinas and they all had to take care of the families. Those guys are mostly cash cows, but some have it good. Filipinas are known for treating their men very well IF they actually care about them.
Thailands the same way .
Filipina gals are wonderful. The bars make them hard. Go to the province.
He made a mistake not being with the wife 100% of the time. Then he acts the playboy, so I guess the wife does the same. Terrible tale. I met a guy in singapore who married a beauriful bargirl, had two kids, she really loved him, was grateful and they are a happy family.
I actually loved the walking around town and seeing the sites just as much as I liked listening to the story - you younger folks need to learn how to relax and take it all in, and give this gentleman some respect.
Thanks , I understand X ers , doesnt bother me ! Doing what I enjoy means more ! Thank you
Good I couldn't follow what he was saying because of all the breaks in his story nothing to do with my age maybe my attention capacity getting old is tough at times
In Thailand always always walk towards the traffic so that you can see them and they can see you, more so if you are walking and talking with a camera, Thai's sense of danger is very poor, for example you will see Father driving the motorcycle, baby behind him and Mother at the back, none of them are wearing a helmet but all of them wearing a mask, they just smile when you point out to them the helmet might just save their life in a country that is the 3rd most dangerous to drive in the world.
You can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl. I heard this in the Philippines in the early 1980's
still true today
I dated strippers for twenty years of my life and would've survived it if I wasn't a little tougher than most and on the occasion one tried to poison me I just learned to make the point clear, there's no way I make myself worth more to you dead than alive. After swearing off strippers, a number of years later most girls in general haven't been that much different. Its just a problem having a little more money and being very generous natured, predator types have always kind of latched on to me and I've been a slow learner. Well that is what this guy encountered. I fall in love to easy also, just like this guy but at least I lived over it
I’m Navajo Indian my mothers uncle fought in ww2 met his wife at a Phillipino bar she was playing the piano married her and took her back home,they had 5 children,he passed away 20+ years ago she’s still living at 103 years old
There are some good stories as well . Probably more good one than bad .
I would blame this poor guy mother, she should never allow that marriage, considering this girl working history - bar girl since 13 , should be never taking serious and never accepted to family!
Should have been sme red flags somewhere
It never ceases to confound me when old men go to another country with the intent to take advantage of young girls and then feel like victims when they get got.
You have a good point . But
He wasn't old, was in his 20s... so your comment is a moot point regards this video
What's advantage? Giving a better life.
Back in the day tens of thousands of Bar Girls were Navy and Marine wives living on the west coast.
I can imagine
King Solomon's exhortation on the necessity of choosing a virtuous woman. When we disregard the instruction of wisdom, we can end up paying for it.
Very true
Proverbs 31:10-31
Living Bible
10 If you can find a truly good wife, she is worth more than precious gems! 11 Her husband can trust her, and she will richly satisfy his needs. 12 She will not hinder him but help him all her life. 13 She finds wool and flax and busily spins it. 14 She buys imported foods brought by ship from distant ports. 15 She gets up before dawn to prepare breakfast for her household and plans the day’s work for her servant girls. 16 She goes out to inspect a field and buys it; with her own hands she plants a vineyard. 17 She is energetic, a hard worker, 18 and watches for bargains. She works far into the night!
19-20 She sews for the poor and generously helps those in need. 21 She has no fear of winter for her household, for she has made warm clothes for all of them. 22 She also upholsters with finest tapestry; her own clothing is beautifully made-a purple gown of pure linen. 23 Her husband is well known, for he sits in the council chamber with the other civic leaders. 24 She makes belted linen garments to sell to the merchants.
25 She is a woman of strength and dignity and has no fear of old age. 26 When she speaks, her words are wise, and kindness is the rule for everything she says. 27 She watches carefully all that goes on throughout her household and is never lazy. 28 Her children stand and bless her; so does her husband. He praises her with these words: 29 “There are many fine women in the world, but you are the best of them all!”
30 Charm can be deceptive, and beauty doesn’t last, but a woman who fears and reverences God shall be greatly praised. 31 Praise her for the many fine things she does. These good deeds of hers shall bring her honor and recognition from people of importance.
All of her virtuous qualities are founded on her devotion to the Lord. All of these virtues: Dignity, patience, diligence, generosity, courage, wisdom, and devotion represent the intrinsic values of Godly womanhood. These are not what a woman looks like, but who she is.
Bob Guccione: " If it floats, flies, or fornicates... Rent, do not Buy! You will save money in the long run."
Funny !
So true!
So, he won a darwin award
Money, Love, and Murder: The Tragic Story of Stephen and Evelyn | Real Crime
Watched it
You're a hero.
The power of the pinay pssy should never be underestimated
Hahaha
My boy underestimated a prostitute that's all
True !
Noy sympathy from me. Anyone who marries a teenager they met in a bar deserves whatever they get. Just being young, naive, and having a good job don't exempt you from needing common sense and a solid set of values to have a good life.
So true
Ok to start if you want a wife you don't go to a bar to find a wife, ok in the Philippines you can find a nice woman at a university, church, Library, maybe a nice park ,never at a bar ,because you know what happens in a bar and most woman that works there are not Marriage material,you will be making a big mistake, so play it smart and please don't so so Desperate ,take your time and find a nice woman in Philippines and you will be more happy and glad you did, God bless you all
Very good advice
There is only one thing worse than bar girls in the p.i. or anywhere,that us fast food areas where freelancer types that would not get a job in a bar hang around, remember one dutch guy who brought one from ermita ( old red light district in manila) to puerto galera he was out for a week unconcious after she put something in his drimk, and her goons were waiting to ' clean his place.
That happens all too often even here in Thailand
Well it took you 30 minutes to tell a 5 minute story 😅 but thanks for sharing!
The story would not have been interesting.
The following old Yiddish proverb sums it up rather nicely. "Ven der putz schtect, ligt der seykhl in d'erd."
I used to work with a guy who when in the USAF in the Vietnam era met and fell in love with a Thai bar girl who worked one of the bars just outside their B52 base. He married her and brought her back to St. Louis. He learned he had married a wife from Hell. She stole things from neighbors. Had sex for money with some of his coworkers, etc. She took him to the cleaners when they divorced. It had been years earlier.
Heard quite a few stories like that back in the 80s .
U dont bring nobody back to St. Louis.
Men fall in love, women fall in business.
It also happens in Thailand not only in Philippines
True !!!
It happens in the USA and every other country too. I've seen so many married men and women kill their spouse to be with another person rather than getting a divorce. ( I'm kind of a true crime addict, Dateline Secrets Uncovered tv show etc) Absolutely insane, murder instead of divorce. Most of the idiots get caught especially these days with all of the technology and cameras everywhere.
"There's a sucker born every minute!" - P.T. Barnum
Thats very true and many end up here
My Buddy Met & Married
A Filipino Lady & Their
Still In Love, 20yrs Later...
Thats great !
I’ve seen many soldiers fall in love with bargirls and once married they get the citizenship they are gone and he is heartbroken. Those girls use what the good lord gave them to get to the US or UK to a better life.
Dont expect Americans to understand pesos , pounds, etc.
It seems, Stephen was a bit of a slummer.
With his cushy well-paid job and substantially High Class roomy apartment with a view , as well holding a British Passport, in Hong Kong, I can't see why better educated, and more gainfully employed single Hong Kong women wouldn't see him as a good catch.
Another tragic story told very well. Lovely stroll around the place. All the best to you and your missus over there :)
Thank you !
Sidewalk? We don't need no stinking sidewalk!
The girl didn't count on Stephens mother being so tenacious.
She messed with the wrong woman.
Very true . Nor did she expect being ratted out !
Her age wouldn't have phased him because in the UK the legal age for consensual sex and or marriage is 16 , he may not have realised that it was different in the Philippines .
Great story thanks for sharing! Ended badly for both. Is possible to find a girl that you don't need to provide support to her family also?
Thats possible and needs to be a video about it. Because its a major issue in Asian countries for a foreigner .
I did. I found a wonderful Filipina; we have been for married 16 years. Very happy!
thats great @@stilltuckered
I know it's probably wishful thinking, but I would like to find a young and beautiful Asian orphan woman that doesn't have any mouths to feed, and that doesn't care that I'm old grumpy and ugly.
Very interesting and scary to think it could happen with anyone not just a bar girl.
Yes, there is another story coming that happened in Thailand some years ago . Will top this one easy .
Just two cents from the peanut gallery. It would be better to either give a walking tour and provide color detail of the walk, or tell the story of the poor fellow's demise - trying to do both is very painful and neither is accomplished well.
it worked for me..just my 2 cents
I read several comments and not one gave credit to the mother who pursued her sons dead/murder. BRAVO TO HER👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 She saved one child from a treacherous mother and avenged her son murder! Too many warnings about BAR GIRLS. STAY AWAY FROM THEM if looking for a wife..!!! Also the person committing about pauses during the doc probably needs a better computer or phone. I heard him clearly.
Heard this before. Except the suspect committed suicide.
Because of guilt.
Not this time she is still servering her time
Don't know how you ended up on my feed, but great storytelling, and while walking too.
Thank you !
The husband was partying with girls. Most Filipina women were naturally jealous type, they started to have a relationship with that person towards a marriage and they don't want to share their husband and remember it is too difficult to get a divorce in the Philippines. The Filipina was not a gold digger but she threw away the life which is gold supposed to be for her. Filipina women are one of the best in the world.
we have family here so we love our ocean facing gentlemans farm,fruit,veggies, fruit trees. southern cebu.
I bet !!
Two Rules and you be fine in Asia
Bar Girls are for
" fun only"✓
The reason why you pay a bar girls is to
" leave "😂
Stick to these two rules and enjoy yourself😂
Here's another one for free
You can't save everyone
Very true !
My friend father went to manilla in the early 90 after divorce and met a fillipina, got married and he got a phone call to a say his father was stabbed qnd in hospital. It can be rough in the phillipines not this close catholic family society as is often portrayed. It's overpopulated and mostly poor with many imelda marcos wannabes. Best steer clear
You have to be careful for sure .
Nonsense. Safer than UK. Lovely people.
The moral of the Story is . A person can want everything you have, and never want You. For him to engage in a relationship with a Minor doesn’t make him Man of the Year.
I agree 100%
Marry a bar girl or a prostitute and roll the dice? If you take those odds, you’re probably gonna get burned.
It is an amazing story and so true of women making a living on the streets... an excellent narrative.
Thank you !
great story, btw this is the cleanest town I've seen in Thialand.
Thanks ! Yes Chiangmai is pretty clean
The deal is the same thousands year's.
Some they confused .
One give the material of a good life and the other give the feeling of a good Life. As the one do not give the one part of the deal, the other must do the same.
Or else comes the unbalance and this has multiple consequences
Well said !
The "Age of Consent" in the State of Minnesota, USA, is 16-years-old even today. That means a girl of 16 can marry an adult man (21- or younger). I also don't understand why the girl didn't just divorce him. after all it sounds like he was cheating on her as well.
Money
Greed
You used to be able to take a girl to Hong Kong and get married as long as she was 15 or 16. There was a video showing a guy that did that. I suspect he already knew she was underage that's why he took her to China to marry her as he know he could not marry her in the Philippines. I believe then you could register the marriage with the Philippines and then the Philippines would consider the marriage to be legal even though she was still underage.
I have nt read that but might be very correct . Im sure thats changed now . Or maybe hasnt .
As I remember, her dad went with them that's how she was able to travel out of the country as a minor and also to sign the marriage documents or whatever.
I d say something like that had to happen
marriage is 18 in the states, but in the past in the south it was younger. Elvis started dating Presila when she was 14 and Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old in maybe Tennesse,
@@nathanielalgernon97516 in the UK with parents permission
What camera or phone are you using please ? THANKS
I use a hero 9 with the lens mod . I use a high bit rate and I boost the video when I export
I need to be retired to have the time to listen to this. So i quit my job thos morning. 😆
Steven was worth more dead to her, than alive. He did not have the smarts to have organised & told her how it was going to be.
Not just bar girls...all women.
Thanks God for surviving a similar situation on a remote island in Tonga, good intentions on my part but devious intentions on her and her family's part ... when they look at a foreigner, this is what the see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and they play the role really good as if they were trained for these moments ... when I saw it coming, I've hit the road running as far as I could for a dear life ... lucky to be a live 🙏🙏
Good choice !
Just goes to show like in America with 304's, You can take the girl out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of the girl.
"Highly desirable" as a wife, is a highly questionable term when it comes to ANY bargirl on the planet.
Apparently,... she already had an out of wedlock child in Davos that she was secretly still supporting, as well sending hush money to con artists, so that Stephen wouldn't know about it.
. A Philippine Lawyer friend visited her in Prison, after I shared this story with him..
Thats interesting never heard that .
this happens often and is covered up, usually for the foreigners assets, the mentality of this country will never change.
I have heard that . Had the mother not been presistant this would have been the same .
Like the BIBLE said once a woman chooses that kind of life one man won’t be enoff…….
So true
love the video mate if you are going to Rent a Bike or Jetski or car before you take off always take photos or video of it before you leave and let them see you do it and when you take it back take photos or video of it and let them see you take them never not take photos or video before and after this will save you a lot of money and stress
Yes very true ! I ve never rented a jet ski but have many bikes never had a problem but always took photos
I talked to my wife for three years before I went to meet her in the Philippines because it was important to get to know her. I wasn't about to just think about being with a beautiful Filipina and just think that I could marry her and live happily ever after. I wish that life was like that for everyone but it isn't. Those stories are only in a fairytale. Maybe he should have talked to her about what he knew and why she was doing that to him. It's a very sad ending for both of them.
I agree
I married a Filipina in 1991 in Hong Kong...33 years this coming June... She was a domestic helper supporting her family...She goes to Church twice a week... I'm good....😆😆😆😆
Bar girl never understood the parable about the goose and the golden egg.
and sometimes you get a rooster , hahahahah
LOL, I worked with guy who bought his wife from a bar too. They moved to the states, had a kid and while pregnant with another she ended up leaving them and going back...
Heard that story a few times ... Just crazy but happens .
That river looks poisonous.
Id say it is
Its a moat that runs around the city
Do a DNA test of the kids.
Yes
I went to Darets restaurant by the wall in 1986 in Chaing Mai. It was used a lot by travellers in those times.
Momma said you will never find a good women in a BAR! Bar flies never make good wife's. Wish i listened to Momma!!!😢
Funny
What is now the age of consent in the Philippines? 16 what was it before 12 years old so at 17 she is a adult 20 years ago it was ago it was 12. So getting married back the at 17 would have been no problem.
Great story Bill! I saw a documentary about this ages ago was a big story back then, nicely told! :)
Thanks ! Yea happened quite a while back .
His mistake wasnt getting her away from the bar scene it was marrying her still when she was 17 and then thinking that living separately is a good idea.
Agree
yeah, that was the worst idea in the world, got to keep together in the marriage, especially with an age difference like that, they became distant and he was probably cheating on her.
Sounds like the guy was an inattentive husband a party happy womanizer ..
Wow and Sad! Thanks for
The History Lesson. Take Care and Godspeed!
you can get the girl out of the bar,but you cant get the bar out of the girl
What's the price of a bottle of coca cola whilst eating noodle soup.when I lived their it was yem bahrt around 2007, exchange was around 67 barjt to the English pound.
a coke most places is about 20 to 30 baht
I always knew that there were girls to play with and girls that you would take home to mama. The two are starkly different.
So true
I really wouldn't marry an Asian Women or any other Women except my own kind; which is European. To me it's unnatural, and doesn't feel right. But to each his or her own.
The story is interesting, and as much as I enjoy the scenery, I wish you would sit the F down and tell the damn story. It’s like hanging out with someone whose mind is somewhere else. I get enough of that from my own family. You should prerecord your walk and then narrate the story at home over the video during editing or something so you can do the story justice, cuz the story deserves it and we viewers can appreciate it better.
All the best to ya brother. 👍
What area are u walking in it looks good no tourists and quiet cleanish etc
Hai Ya district of Chiangmai it is very nice there just south of Chiangmai gate
What a Tragedy! He was simply young and naive. It was a Huge mistake. That’s Sad and my heart goes to his parents and children. Thank you for sharing this story!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
His mother went through a real bad time .