Advice from an Architect: It is crucial to ensure that your contract includes a third-party intervention clause to address situations like these. Regardless of the presence of such a clause, it is important to remember that your contract is solely between the client and your company, not with the neighbor. The appropriate course of action would be to initiate a dialogue with the client upon encountering such a situation. This should be done after thoroughly documenting the issue. Subsequently, inform the client that additional costs may be incurred. It is then the client's responsibility to approach the neighbor and, if necessary, pursue legal action in a civil court. Based on my knowledge of construction and architectural law, this is the legally recommended approach. However, your approach of handling the situation is a very good option as it minimizes the client's involvement, ultimately keeping them happy. Furthermore, it is worth noting that the mentioned rate of $300 appears to be significantly low. In my experience, smaller projects in my region typically incur daily delay costs of around $500.
That is true but at least in our area damages are between property owners only. Anyways glad it worked out in the end and the project still moved forward.
@@thenextstepp , technically you are right and that they could have sued the homeowner and forced him to sue his neighbor's for the extra materials, time, labor, and court costs they incurred because of the negligence of the pool keeper! Obviously then that neighbor would have to sue the pool guy for his losses due to his negligence! IMO you guys could have easily gotten $5000 in civil court as long as you could provide proof of those jobs you had lined up that you had to push back because you had to wait for the area to dry up enough! If I remember you guys stated that you had to wait roughly a week to place the crete but were still bringing in gravel to try to help dry it faster! I think that that owner was lucky you let him off with a slap on the wrist! I am also curious how they didn't have a runoff on their property to guide the water to the street instead of just flowing directly on to your neighbors yard! The guys yard you were working on didnt have an adequate french drain either, so either they did a bad job or it was clogged or didn't have the proper pitch to drain towards the street but either way it shouldn't have flooded like that with a properly placed french drain!
“Neighbor’s flooded …”. I was thinking more like angry villagers flooding in with torches and pitchforks like an old Frankenstein movie! I’m glad I was mistaken! 😂😂😂
@@huntards correct, at the end of the day, he was hired by the neighbors home owner, if they had to pay for damages they are the ones who have to pursue the contractor responsible. It makes me laugh that he thinks he’ll protect his business by going after his image on the internet and he doesn’t even realize he killed the main source of advertising any private contractor has; WORD OF MOUTH, smooth move Xlax.
And Deli lunch to trade or share :) When I was a child I used to trade my lunch at school, I would have some egg and black bean "torta" and my friends would have some ham/mayo "torta" so we got to taste everything.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete He should be held liable. He should be fined , and fired for negligence , and incompetence. Small claims court is always an option too. Good luck !
I'd ask for the pool company's name and send them the bill for all the missed hours, along with a small blurb from the video concerning the pool fools' actions.
dude you ever work on a construction site one second in your whole life? .... its all about other contractors causing delays.. electrician doesn't show so the drywall guy is losing his mind.. which pushes off the painter.. which pushes off the trim carpenter.. which pushes off the carpet guy... are you going to sue on behalf of all those contractors for a lost day? if you did you'd be put out of business by word of mouth and no one would ever work with you again... if it was rain who you gonna sue God? .. grow up .. welcome to the real world
@@zippythechicken "Grow up." Nah. All the nonsense you said doesn't make it acceptable. In the "real world" people that cause problems get held liable.
I disagree, I like the Son a lot. He's figuring things out by doing it right, and gives tons of details on the job which is nice. (not that I don't like the Father or something lol)
In sweden you as a homeowner are responsible for any water leaving your property. It doesn't even matter if it's rainwater or tap/poolwater, you need to have drains that can handle every drop of rain that your property collects, and obviously take care of any water that you spill yourself as well.
It's the same in America, you are responsible for improper water run off. Like if you create a drainage system that happens to then flood your neighbors yard you can be legally in trouble.
Same. If this really threw off your schedule I could maaaaaybe see pursuing some sort of action. For. $300 though, not worth the headache or the bad blood.
At 18:58 the neighbor says 'I hope the pool guy doesn't do that again while they're working". So I think the neighbor is as much to blame as the pool guy. All they had to do was check that the water had been turned off as they knew this was an issue.
I would have sent a $1,000 per day of lost work invoice to the pool company due to THEIR employee's continual neglect to do his job. He turns on the water and just leaves. the pool will Auto-drain as a safety mechanism, but the FILL is still turned ON wasting water. Not to mention the Pool drain being broken that the worker doesnt even know or care about, because they leave and go to another location.
We have tiny snakes down here in Florida that look like worms. There's ones that have a red ring around their necks & ones that have like a round blunt ends on both sides.
You guys do a great job and billing them only $300 is being nice. I figured the neighbors were renters as why they left when it first happened. They wouldn’t be laughing if he took him to court for a total cost of the project being delayed.
Lunch time look so good!!! Everyone bringing there own food. Enrique killing it with the beef feet soup Greetings from Southern California The Masonry Company
I really liked the camera going across the driveway in a shadow that was a cool effect. It gave you a better sense of the passage of time. I really like the video all the way around. Most of these videos are too dry. When he was showing his food and said Mexican wife. He reminded me when I was a really young carpenter, not married and a lot of time I wouldn't even have lunch. I worked with older Mexican guys, and their wives would feel sorry for me and make me food. Some of the best food i've ever had. Thanks for the memories. Great video.
That’s a $6,000 construction delay caused by others. Send invoice to the pool company and a copy to the neighbor. Be sure to get statements from the neighbor and client then file suit. Buy out the pool company and start another module of service to grow your company. Good luck. Hire the pool guy and put him in charge of continuing education for your team on what not to do. 😊
They can't. Basically, the law in AZ and CA (where this company operates) state that pool water can not be drained into a sewer, or onto the street, and has to be drained into yards to be absorbed. Since any other 'drainage' would violate the law, and homeowners are not responsible for work happening outside their own property (IE the neighbor's construction), then they can't be held responsible for the encroachment which happened, as the water naturally flowed to the lowest point. That lowest point being where the soil had been removed for the concrete pouring. From a marshal's perspective (marshals being building code enforcement), there's no credible violation here. The pool guy is operating within the letter of the applicable state law, and the onus then is on the property owner where the construction is being performed; or on the construction company to deal with the encroachment, or to postpone the construction (at their own cost) until such time that the property has dried out enough to continue construction.
You should put a claim in to pool company, they should have liability insurance to cover the loss of income as well as additional work to clean up the site.
Great job crew 💕👏👍 Good to see the brothers working together on this one. Hope you're still going after that pool contractor's money that tried stiffing you 🙏
Not the homeowners fault,(neither one) nor the renters fault, strictly the pool guys fault. But, seeing how it happens often, they should be using a valve that shuts off the water when the pool is full.
And you should have billed him for the base you had to bring in also besides the 300 dollar delay fee. That pool guy should not be just leaving his customers hose running.
$300 dollars is a lot for people that rent, it probably was a huge water bill too. I would go after the pool himself he should learn from it and has the means of paying. Plus the pool guy is insured for these types of mistakes. Pool guy obviously doesn't have a care in mind.
I am a pool contractor. Pool guys do this a lot as do clients. I always always use a timer on a hose or even leave my keys on the spigot to avoid this crap. Happens more than you think. Here in Florida we also have an issue with pools popping out the ground during the wet season due to high ground water and soft soil. I have had clients drain water out of the pool and forget the pool is draining and the pool will pop right out of the ground. An expensive repair. Lol.
You should charge the pool guy. $300 is cheap , if you get anything without going to court it will be amazing. Small claims ct against pool company your best bet is
Since this seems to be a on going problem with the drainage, I'd have asked the project homeowner about putting in some drainage pipe right at the worst places that get flooded to keep this from happening in future. What if there is a big rain storm in future along with the neighbor's on going pool drain problem. Best to do it NOW while you have the construction gong on.
If the pool guy was filling the pool, its his responsibility to shut it off before he leaves or set a timer on hose. A couple day delay should include the guys wages as well
owning my own pool company i never fill a persons pool, that is on them. To much liability and to many things can go wrong you leave your car breaks down etc. not worth it and this guy just learned that. leave it up to the customer !!!!
I would bill $1,000 to $1,500 (or a percentage of the total job) to the owner that hired you (since you have the contract with him). Tell him to request reimbursement from the owner of the house next door. If the owner next door won't reimburse, then you will back up the owner that hired you 100% in small claims court (in person or through documentation). Just my personal opinion. I am not a lawyer.
You are out of your mind if you think me as the homeowner am paying you 1000 to 1500 for something that a neighbor does. You will be out of business quick with that business practice. Lol I had a basketball court poured at my house, the contractor was delayed longer than that due to heavy rain, you think he charged me rain delays? Lol I would have told him to get F'd if he tried
@@franquil85conn After i wrote that I thought i should have included....it depends on what's in the contract the owner signs. I'm not sure what the industry standard is for those types of delays, but the wording in a contract is important. Bottom line is that situation was ridiculous and shouldn't of happened.
@@CoorsLight2025 I totally agree that it is ridiculous and shouldn't have happened, but as a business owner, you'll run into many ridiculous things that should not have happened. Imagine if that concrete had mesh throughout, that would have added time on their job, should he have sued in that situation? What if there was no rebar or very little, kinda like what happened and he demo'd the site several hours quicker than anticipated in the bid, do you think the contractor would give a portion of the bid back? If the delay hurt his schedule and he lost money, he should go after the pool company, not the renter or the original client even if there is some fine print that he could hold the original client liable. It takes years to build a company's name, and one misstep to smear it
@@franquil85conn ...this incident may not be black and white as we may think (and it's not up to the concrete company to try and figure it out. They've already lost enough time and money). Is there some animosity going on between neighbors? The renter already admitted the overflow problem has happened before...and you know the renter had to hear and see all the construction work going on that day. It's almost appears the incident was intentional. In the end it's about what the contract fine print says...and how much monetary loss the concrete company is willing to eat.
What made that fireplace you moved weigh so much, was the rock on top. Most of those rocks like that can be literal 'lava rocks', so their small, but super-dense, making them weigh a ton. A 50lb bag of that is like the size of a 20lb bag of cat-food.
I did pool servicing for years. If you turned a hose on to top up a pool you would always hang your car keys on the tap. Couldn’t leave the job without your car keys. Saved me on more than one occasion. Plus how does the overflow not go down a drain? How is it legal for this just to drain into the neighbours yard? The pool guy messed up but the owner of the house is also responsible for that not going down a drain. I had to have 2.5 mill liability insurance to be able to work also. If you mess up the indoor pool on the top floor of a 3 story mansion you can cause a lot of damage.
as a pool guy this is why i leave a note telling them to add water themselves. pools dont lose water on their own unless its leaking (yes evaporation too but if this is the 3rd incident then clearly this is not the case) and thats the homeowners responsibility i wont waste time filling their pool for them they can handle it themselves also running sprinkers for 14 hours? does nobody look outside their windows and wonder?
That's a snake! It's Indotyphlops braminus, or the Brahminy Blind Snake. They commonly find their way inside houses in potted plants. They have no eyes, which is kinda rad. Non-venomous and totally harmless.
You should have calculated every ones pay for the days you had to wait and for the material you had to put in to help dry out, then I am sure you had to bring up the forms for proper depth of concrete plus 10 percent for screwing up your schedule.
As a pool owner (renter or not) I’ve never not checked the pool out after a service and I’ would not continue to use their pool services. Particularly, if he has a history of leaving a hose running in my pool. I’m sure the tenants pay for utilities, so it blows my mind they wouldn’t check after he was done.
I saw a yellow car parked in their driveway for the duration of the video, so I presumed that they were home. Particularly, when the crew went into the backyard and encountered the tenants. I think I’m this case it’s safe to assume they were home.
if the neighbor said it happens constantly, i dont know why you didn't recommend a French drain system on the side of the house so if it happens again once the concrete is down it wont soak underneath the foundation or even make the concrete move over time from the base getting soaked
That’s funny, when I lived there about 10 years ago that same thing use to always happen with the pool overfilling. Our backyard got flooded several times
Put down concrete a little ahead of HOA approval so when I had to cut it a big chunk out a fine silt drained to nearest storm drain. To my surprise, in the morning the silt that crossed a 4 way stop looked like I had dumped 20 gallons of white paint and got spread every way from the passing cars! HOA said they were worried the lye in the concrete would erode the seal on the roads (Very possible HOA BS??) and put me to clean up. We attached to neighbor garden hoses and even grabbed a shop vacuum to suck up the silk. My luck it ended up raining in Indio CA and they sent the street sweeper which saved me. Lesson is to have someone on the end of the driveway with a shop vacuum to clean as you go! And don't buy in an HOA.
I’m kinda surprised you guys don’t have any transfer pumps, Milwaukee makes a few cordless pumps that work relatively well, especially for situations like this
I know I am a little late but I was curious with those 4 squares right outside the door that go all the way down did you guys add those wood frames dividing each square before you compacted it for a reason because would it be easier to compact it all and then add the boards just curious
Another factor regarding charging the home owner next door is that it did in fact rain, so if you were to go to court, it might be tough even with the video evidence proving that the flooding was the sole cause for delay.
Hey Mr odell i have a question, i seen another video from 4 years ago you did a paint match on a concrete patio in the back yard you used berh deckover paint it looked good when you finished, i wanted to ask how long in your experience does that usually last? And is there any similar product that you recommend for a driveway ? I want to get my driveway and back yard done the same way you painted that back yard but not sure on product thanks!
here is what you can try to get the next door home owner to agree with. You have to bill him for the delay, but that home owner can then bill the pool guy for the damage he cost the next door home owner. So in the end you can charge the next door home owner more, because the bill will only be payed forward by the next door home owner.
Maybe the pool guy expects the pool to drain. Heavy sediments sink to bottom so draining or water change out is done. Pool stores have sediment/particulate test
I lived in South Georgia and this is what the little "Snake" was. Certainly! In Florida, there is a snake known as the Brahminy Blindsnake (Indotyphlops braminus). Here are some key details about this interesting snake: Appearance: Most adult Brahminy Blindsnakes are about 4.4-6.5 inches (11.2-16.5 cm) in total length. They are small, thin, and come in shiny silver gray, charcoal gray, or purple colors. Their heads and tails appear blunt and can be challenging to distinguish from each other. Juveniles have similar coloration to adults1. Origin: Brahminy Blindsnakes are non-native to Florida. They hail from southern Asia and were first reported in Miami, Florida, in the 1970s. Since then, they have been found from Key West north throughout much of the peninsula, with isolated records from the Panhandle1. Risk to People and Pets: These snakes are non-venomous and pose no danger to humans or pets. However, they are frequently mistaken for earthworms due to their shiny appearance. Unlike earthworms, Brahminy Blindsnakes are not segmented, and if you look closely at their heads, you’ll notice them sticking out their tiny tongues while being held
Advice from an Architect:
It is crucial to ensure that your contract includes a third-party intervention clause to address situations like these. Regardless of the presence of such a clause, it is important to remember that your contract is solely between the client and your company, not with the neighbor.
The appropriate course of action would be to initiate a dialogue with the client upon encountering such a situation. This should be done after thoroughly documenting the issue. Subsequently, inform the client that additional costs may be incurred. It is then the client's responsibility to approach the neighbor and, if necessary, pursue legal action in a civil court.
Based on my knowledge of construction and architectural law, this is the legally recommended approach. However, your approach of handling the situation is a very good option as it minimizes the client's involvement, ultimately keeping them happy.
Furthermore, it is worth noting that the mentioned rate of $300 appears to be significantly low. In my experience, smaller projects in my region typically incur daily delay costs of around $500.
According to City building department water encroachment is illegal
That is true but at least in our area damages are between property owners only. Anyways glad it worked out in the end and the project still moved forward.
@@thenextstepp , technically you are right and that they could have sued the homeowner and forced him to sue his neighbor's for the extra materials, time, labor, and court costs they incurred because of the negligence of the pool keeper! Obviously then that neighbor would have to sue the pool guy for his losses due to his negligence! IMO you guys could have easily gotten $5000 in civil court as long as you could provide proof of those jobs you had lined up that you had to push back because you had to wait for the area to dry up enough! If I remember you guys stated that you had to wait roughly a week to place the crete but were still bringing in gravel to try to help dry it faster! I think that that owner was lucky you let him off with a slap on the wrist! I am also curious how they didn't have a runoff on their property to guide the water to the street instead of just flowing directly on to your neighbors yard! The guys yard you were working on didnt have an adequate french drain either, so either they did a bad job or it was clogged or didn't have the proper pitch to drain towards the street but either way it shouldn't have flooded like that with a properly placed french drain!
Obvious insurance claim
I have to agree $300 for the delay was way to low. You lost how many days and a crew of? A fee of $500 for each day lost is still resonable.
“Neighbor’s flooded …”. I was thinking more like angry villagers flooding in with torches and pitchforks like an old Frankenstein movie! I’m glad I was mistaken! 😂😂😂
Don't you mean buckets and fire hoses .
Lake lot o water.
Same!!😂😂😂
The pool guy should be paying.
Pool guy is definitely reading the comments.
No, the neighbor needs to pay then the neighbor can go after the pool guy
My pool guy does the exact same thing, must be page 1 of the pool guy's handbook
@@huntards correct, at the end of the day, he was hired by the neighbors home owner, if they had to pay for damages they are the ones who have to pursue the contractor responsible.
It makes me laugh that he thinks he’ll protect his business by going after his image on the internet and he doesn’t even realize he killed the main source of advertising any private contractor has; WORD OF MOUTH, smooth move Xlax.
neighbour will have to pay, but the neighbour can sue the pool guy.
@@dococ3272 tf are you talking about...sounds like your either doped out or too dam stupid to know what your talking about...or both
That's a bunch of nice guys you got working for you, I'd be happy working alongside those guys, good attitudes!
And Deli lunch to trade or share :)
When I was a child I used to trade my lunch at school, I would have some egg and black bean "torta" and my friends would have some ham/mayo "torta" so we got to taste everything.
A bunch of illegals who will eventually take over after he teaches them everything....seen it a million times
Yeah totally agree with your comment!! I’d love to work with these guys! Great crew. Kind of a work family 😊
In my opinion the pool fool did it. He's the one you should have charged for the downtime.
Yeah I think he will be fined by the neighbors
@@OdellCompleteConcrete He should be held liable. He should be fined , and fired for negligence , and incompetence. Small claims court is always an option too. Good luck !
I'd ask for the pool company's name and send them the bill for all the missed hours, along with a small blurb from the video concerning the pool fools' actions.
dude you ever work on a construction site one second in your whole life? .... its all about other contractors causing delays.. electrician doesn't show so the drywall guy is losing his mind.. which pushes off the painter.. which pushes off the trim carpenter.. which pushes off the carpet guy... are you going to sue on behalf of all those contractors for a lost day? if you did you'd be put out of business by word of mouth and no one would ever work with you again... if it was rain who you gonna sue God? .. grow up .. welcome to the real world
@@zippythechicken "Grow up." Nah. All the nonsense you said doesn't make it acceptable. In the "real world" people that cause problems get held liable.
I miss dads buttery relaxing voice over on these videos. So relaxing. 😎
Next time
that was pretty much the reason i kept watching this channel when i started lol
I'm getting some stuff together soon
I disagree, I like the Son a lot. He's figuring things out by doing it right, and gives tons of details on the job which is nice. (not that I don't like the Father or something lol)
@@JFirn86Q They are both nice in different ways but some of us we got used to Papa's relaxing voice.
Hello to Papa Odell :)
They need to fire that pool guy.
especially since the neighbor says he's done it before...
neighbor's are as dumb as the ''pool guy''.
Loved seeing the whats for lunch segment. Love your interactions with your crew
Glad you enjoyed it!
This segment caused me to find what I had to eat in the fridge.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Where did he get that cool lunch thermos thing with the three dishes? Awesome!
In sweden you as a homeowner are responsible for any water leaving your property. It doesn't even matter if it's rainwater or tap/poolwater, you need to have drains that can handle every drop of rain that your property collects, and obviously take care of any water that you spill yourself as well.
It's the same in America, you are responsible for improper water run off. Like if you create a drainage system that happens to then flood your neighbors yard you can be legally in trouble.
$300 is not even worth the headache. I would have gone after the pool guy's insurance instead.
agree like what? 300 I wouldn't even take that serious.
Same. If this really threw off your schedule I could maaaaaybe see pursuing some sort of action. For. $300 though, not worth the headache or the bad blood.
$300 per man on the job, per day lost.
I would have charged around 1800 to 2300
Likely paid by the job. If paid by hour a wise supervisor would move them to another job. ALWAYS have a fallback plan.@@johnnyd2375
At 18:58 the neighbor says 'I hope the pool guy doesn't do that again while they're working". So I think the neighbor is as much to blame as the pool guy. All they had to do was check that the water had been turned off as they knew this was an issue.
Exactly
They’re renters what do you expect
Renters...
@@snaplashthey said themselves "hes does this all the time, he leaves and doesnt say anything expecting someone to see it"
@@jtyree0226 who is paying the water. Smh
You guys have a really good attitude, Just burning time and profits. 👍
Stay positive no matter what 😂
While the concrete was out I would have installed some drain basins for sure!
Pool guy trying to sue you is hilarious 😂😂😂
Homeowner looked like he was still celebrating the new years 🎉😮
Probably in recovery
All of you work Hard and man Y'all inspire many of us to Keep Working hard, I appreciate You and Your Crew!
I would have sent a $1,000 per day of lost work invoice to the pool company due to THEIR employee's continual neglect to do his job. He turns on the water and just leaves. the pool will Auto-drain as a safety mechanism, but the FILL is still turned ON wasting water. Not to mention the Pool drain being broken that the worker doesnt even know or care about, because they leave and go to another location.
The pool guy should have paid for it
There are snakes called Blind snakes. Don’t get any bigger than a large worm. Very rare to be seen.
That's cool. I have seen one before, thought i was tripping.
I have even had one in my yard here in Tampa Bay!
Thanks for identifying it.
Ok I thought it was a Earthworm
moving some debri😃s around 1 day with my bro i was like hey look at the worm and my brother said dude thats a snake,,
We have tiny snakes down here in Florida that look like worms. There's ones that have a red ring around their necks & ones that have like a round blunt ends on both sides.
In Wales we work in wet conditions like that all the time 😊.Nice job guys 🏴 🇺🇸
You guys do a great job and billing them only $300 is being nice. I figured the neighbors were renters as why they left when it first happened. They wouldn’t be laughing if he took him to court for a total cost of the project being delayed.
I'm surprised you only charged him that much 😮
I bet he's got a new pool guy 🤣
Yeah maybe should have been more
What was the price for that job? Maybe i missed it in the video?
1000 bucks bro! Minimum
No
Lunch time look so good!!! Everyone bringing there own food. Enrique killing it with the beef feet soup
Greetings from Southern California
The Masonry Company
Authentic Mexican food
@@OdellCompleteConcrete yes Cerritos
Beef feet food might be "menudo de pata", I am mostly vegetarian but I would eat it.
You should change the next door owner at $3k per day for the delay .
I really liked the camera going across the driveway in a shadow that was a cool effect. It gave you a better sense of the passage of time. I really like the video all the way around. Most of these videos are too dry. When he was showing his food and said Mexican wife. He reminded me when I was a really young carpenter, not married and a lot of time I wouldn't even have lunch. I worked with older Mexican guys, and their wives would feel sorry for me and make me food. Some of the best food i've ever had. Thanks for the memories. Great video.
Great setup. I would of definitely ran a thick landscape fabric in those 5” gaps to prevent weeds
We do that in 2nd part
Remember to clear out the pump sprayer as the hypo will destroy the rubber gasket in the pump.
Good time to replace main water line from meter to house before concrete is in
Is that a snake or a worm?
"It walks." 😂😂
That’s a $6,000 construction delay caused by others. Send invoice to the pool company and a copy to the neighbor. Be sure to get statements from the neighbor and client then file suit. Buy out the pool company and start another module of service to grow your company. Good luck. Hire the pool guy and put him in charge of continuing education for your team on what not to do. 😊
I would have thought that the neighbors or the 'pool guys' insurance would have coughed up a few thousand dollars for the damage.
They can't. Basically, the law in AZ and CA (where this company operates) state that pool water can not be drained into a sewer, or onto the street, and has to be drained into yards to be absorbed. Since any other 'drainage' would violate the law, and homeowners are not responsible for work happening outside their own property (IE the neighbor's construction), then they can't be held responsible for the encroachment which happened, as the water naturally flowed to the lowest point. That lowest point being where the soil had been removed for the concrete pouring.
From a marshal's perspective (marshals being building code enforcement), there's no credible violation here. The pool guy is operating within the letter of the applicable state law, and the onus then is on the property owner where the construction is being performed; or on the construction company to deal with the encroachment, or to postpone the construction (at their own cost) until such time that the property has dried out enough to continue construction.
This is why people need to learn how to take care of there own pool so they know how to shut the pump off
You should put a claim in to pool company, they should have liability insurance to cover the loss of income as well as additional work to clean up the site.
unless he's a gypsey, unregistered. cheap prices, cheap work.
If i'm the neighbors, i'm charging that pool guy/company the balance bill of the overfill of water draining over the fill line. Nice job as usual
Great job crew 💕👏👍 Good to see the brothers working together on this one. Hope you're still going after that pool contractor's money that tried stiffing you 🙏
Yes we are
Not the homeowners fault,(neither one) nor the renters fault, strictly the pool guys fault. But, seeing how it happens often, they should be using a valve that shuts off the water when the pool is full.
Or the freaking guy can stay until it’s filled who shows up fills a pool and leaves whyll it’s still filling up.
Great work! Great attitude!
Also, in my opinion… On the driveway wouldn’t it be easier to get gravel in and compacted before doing all that set up?
How to Eat Fried Worms. I loved that book as a kid! Then there was also Can of Worms
It's awesome your full crew includes Frank Zappa!
That’s our main man Shane hahah
I sort of agree with places making the dobies code. Some people even when they attempt to lift the bar don’t do it right and it just sinks back down.
And you should have billed him for the base you had to bring in also besides the 300 dollar delay fee. That pool guy should not be just leaving his customers hose running.
Invest in a little utility pump. We use them on jobs allll the time.
Good idea
Make sure you get a Tsurumi pump. They're the only ones that last worth a s***.
Nice job guys well done well organized. And that was a snake it's called a worm snake you can look it up. A great job guys 👍💪
$300 dollars is a lot for people that rent, it probably was a huge water bill too. I would go after the pool himself he should learn from it and has the means of paying. Plus the pool guy is insured for these types of mistakes. Pool guy obviously doesn't have a care in mind.
6:45 Brother you need to invest in jackhammers or like we now use the jackhammers for the skid steer. Saves all of our backs lol
8:52 what do we see them using??
How strange to tear out a perfectly fine driveway.
That's what I kept thinking, it looked so solid and uncracked, and so expensive to replace.
Yes but it was very ugly. Check our instagram if u want to see finished product before part 2
If that what the homeowner wants you don’t question it you just do the work.
I am a pool contractor. Pool guys do this a lot as do clients. I always always use a timer on a hose or even leave my keys on the spigot to avoid this crap. Happens more than you think. Here in Florida we also have an issue with pools popping out the ground during the wet season due to high ground water and soft soil. I have had clients drain water out of the pool and forget the pool is draining and the pool will pop right out of the ground. An expensive repair. Lol.
You should charge the pool guy. $300 is cheap , if you get anything without going to court it will be amazing. Small claims ct against pool company your best bet is
theres a 80% chance that guys unlicensed and uninsured waste of time for 300 dollars
Since this seems to be a on going problem with the drainage, I'd have asked the project homeowner about putting in some drainage pipe right at the worst places that get flooded to keep this from happening in future.
What if there is a big rain storm in future along with the neighbor's on going pool drain problem.
Best to do it NOW while you have the construction gong on.
You suppose to sue the pool guy or the neighbors cause it's not the owner fault.
If the pool guy was filling the pool, its his responsibility to shut it off before he leaves or set a timer on hose. A couple day delay should include the guys wages as well
owning my own pool company i never fill a persons pool, that is on them. To much liability and to many things can go wrong you leave your car breaks down etc. not worth it and this guy just learned that. leave it up to the customer !!!!
a concrete guy with bags.... a truly rare site!
How to eat fried worms
Loved that book
Thanks!
The lunch part is hilarious “check it out, mexican wife”😂😂
I would bill $1,000 to $1,500 (or a percentage of the total job) to the owner that hired you (since you have the contract with him). Tell him to request reimbursement from the owner of the house next door. If the owner next door won't reimburse, then you will back up the owner that hired you 100% in small claims court (in person or through documentation). Just my personal opinion. I am not a lawyer.
Me too
You are out of your mind if you think me as the homeowner am paying you 1000 to 1500 for something that a neighbor does. You will be out of business quick with that business practice. Lol I had a basketball court poured at my house, the contractor was delayed longer than that due to heavy rain, you think he charged me rain delays? Lol I would have told him to get F'd if he tried
@@franquil85conn After i wrote that I thought i should have included....it depends on what's in the contract the owner signs. I'm not sure what the industry standard is for those types of delays, but the wording in a contract is important. Bottom line is that situation was ridiculous and shouldn't of happened.
@@CoorsLight2025 I totally agree that it is ridiculous and shouldn't have happened, but as a business owner, you'll run into many ridiculous things that should not have happened. Imagine if that concrete had mesh throughout, that would have added time on their job, should he have sued in that situation? What if there was no rebar or very little, kinda like what happened and he demo'd the site several hours quicker than anticipated in the bid, do you think the contractor would give a portion of the bid back? If the delay hurt his schedule and he lost money, he should go after the pool company, not the renter or the original client even if there is some fine print that he could hold the original client liable. It takes years to build a company's name, and one misstep to smear it
@@franquil85conn ...this incident may not be black and white as we may think (and it's not up to the concrete company to try and figure it out. They've already lost enough time and money). Is there some animosity going on between neighbors? The renter already admitted the overflow problem has happened before...and you know the renter had to hear and see all the construction work going on that day. It's almost appears the incident was intentional. In the end it's about what the contract fine print says...and how much monetary loss the concrete company is willing to eat.
Roll off guy did a nice job. Touching is touching, not touching is not touching
always informative.
I appreciate that!
When i did pools I use to roll with a timer to shut it off. But if customer was home I would let them check to make sure it shut-off
Facts, I once accidentally forgot to turn the water off and the owners didn’t catch it ever since then I roll with timers
SHOULD BILL THE POOL COMPANY
What made that fireplace you moved weigh so much, was the rock on top. Most of those rocks like that can be literal 'lava rocks', so their small, but super-dense, making them weigh a ton. A 50lb bag of that is like the size of a 20lb bag of cat-food.
The lunch reveal was my favorite part!!! 😂
THATS A PROFESSIONAL BIG RIG DRIVER
I did pool servicing for years. If you turned a hose on to top up a pool you would always hang your car keys on the tap. Couldn’t leave the job without your car keys. Saved me on more than one occasion. Plus how does the overflow not go down a drain? How is it legal for this just to drain into the neighbours yard? The pool guy messed up but the owner of the house is also responsible for that not going down a drain. I had to have 2.5 mill liability insurance to be able to work also. If you mess up the indoor pool on the top floor of a 3 story mansion you can cause a lot of damage.
You should have billed the pool guy your labor cost for the 2 day’s downtime. How did you come up with $300 ?
as a pool guy this is why i leave a note telling them to add water themselves. pools dont lose water on their own unless its leaking (yes evaporation too but if this is the 3rd incident then clearly this is not the case) and thats the homeowners responsibility i wont waste time filling their pool for them they can handle it themselves also running sprinkers for 14 hours? does nobody look outside their windows and wonder?
That's a snake! It's Indotyphlops braminus, or the Brahminy Blind Snake. They commonly find their way inside houses in potted plants. They have no eyes, which is kinda rad. Non-venomous and totally harmless.
500 for the extra work shoveling water and getting delayed is a good price for the set back.
You should have calculated every ones pay for the days you had to wait and for the material you had to put in to help dry out, then I am sure you had to bring up the forms for proper depth of concrete plus 10 percent for screwing up your schedule.
Watch out for those silica particles boys. Stay safe.
Great job brothers .👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
As a pool owner (renter or not) I’ve never not checked the pool out after a service and I’ would not continue to use their pool services. Particularly, if he has a history of leaving a hose running in my pool. I’m sure the tenants pay for utilities, so it blows my mind they wouldn’t check after he was done.
Some people aren't home and are at work
I saw a yellow car parked in their driveway for the duration of the video, so I presumed that they were home. Particularly, when the crew went into the backyard and encountered the tenants. I think I’m this case it’s safe to assume they were home.
if the neighbor said it happens constantly, i dont know why you didn't recommend a French drain system on the side of the house so if it happens again once the concrete is down it wont soak underneath the foundation or even make the concrete move over time from the base getting soaked
We put drains in
I hope, all that scrap material get to be used again like in gabions or so.
That’s funny, when I lived there about 10 years ago that same thing use to always happen with the pool overfilling. Our backyard got flooded several times
Put down concrete a little ahead of HOA approval so when I had to cut it a big chunk out a fine silt drained to nearest storm drain. To my surprise, in the morning the silt that crossed a 4 way stop looked like I had dumped 20 gallons of white paint and got spread every way from the passing cars! HOA said they were worried the lye in the concrete would erode the seal on the roads (Very possible HOA BS??) and put me to clean up. We attached to neighbor garden hoses and even grabbed a shop vacuum to suck up the silk. My luck it ended up raining in Indio CA and they sent the street sweeper which saved me. Lesson is to have someone on the end of the driveway with a shop vacuum to clean as you go! And don't buy in an HOA.
I’m kinda surprised you guys don’t have any transfer pumps, Milwaukee makes a few cordless pumps that work relatively well, especially for situations like this
How was the pool even low to begin with if you got enough rain to flood you out beforehand? You would think the rain would have just topped it off.
“Not the first time the pool guy has done this….”
Wow.
What a beautiful job
I loved the lunch review. LOL
Mexicans lunch looks amazing 👍👍
Is there a weight limit for the roll offs? Can't wait for part 2!
I like the lunch container that Louis has. Can you ask them where they bought that? I tried looking online and can't find one
I know I am a little late but I was curious with those 4 squares right outside the door that go all the way down did you guys add those wood frames dividing each square before you compacted it for a reason because would it be easier to compact it all and then add the boards just curious
The guy getting his cement replaced ... may have his house foundation jeopardize as well with that water 😮
$300 was a gift. If I had been the neighbor next door, I would have paid you on the spot no questions ask.
I think the renter left the hose on and blamed it on the pool guy
It was a thread snake . non venomous. If you pick it up you will fell the difference between them and a worm, they wiggle like crazy also.😃
Dang! What a mess! Looking forward to finish video!❤❤❤
Next video will be a good one ☝️
Why didnt u put wood floors on the grass so u dont damage the lawn?
Another factor regarding charging the home owner next door is that it did in fact rain, so if you were to go to court, it might be tough even with the video evidence proving that the flooding was the sole cause for delay.
Hey Mr odell i have a question, i seen another video from 4 years ago you did a paint match on a concrete patio in the back yard you used berh deckover paint it looked good when you finished, i wanted to ask how long in your experience does that usually last? And is there any similar product that you recommend for a driveway ? I want to get my driveway and back yard done the same way you painted that back yard but not sure on product thanks!
here is what you can try to get the next door home owner to agree with.
You have to bill him for the delay, but that home owner can then bill the pool guy for the damage he cost the next door home owner.
So in the end you can charge the next door home owner more, because the bill will only be payed forward by the next door home owner.
Maybe the pool guy expects the pool to drain. Heavy sediments sink to bottom so draining or water change out is done. Pool stores have sediment/particulate test
Water hose was left on
I’m about 1 minutes in. What’s up with the driveway that it needs re doing?
Dude what a trip, that’s my old house! Laguna Niguel right?
Haha we skated that pool and put a stand up jet ski in back in the day
Wow what are the odds!
Thought we were in for a Karen versus concrete epic, ha
So if it rains 2 - 3 days whos to blame ?
Schedules would have to be move
Hrs would be lost as well
Who controls Mother Nature? Who controls you?
I lived in South Georgia and this is what the little "Snake" was. Certainly! In Florida, there is a snake known as the Brahminy Blindsnake (Indotyphlops braminus). Here are some key details about this interesting snake:
Appearance: Most adult Brahminy Blindsnakes are about 4.4-6.5 inches (11.2-16.5 cm) in total length. They are small, thin, and come in shiny silver gray, charcoal gray, or purple colors. Their heads and tails appear blunt and can be challenging to distinguish from each other. Juveniles have similar coloration to adults1.
Origin: Brahminy Blindsnakes are non-native to Florida. They hail from southern Asia and were first reported in Miami, Florida, in the 1970s. Since then, they have been found from Key West north throughout much of the peninsula, with isolated records from the Panhandle1.
Risk to People and Pets: These snakes are non-venomous and pose no danger to humans or pets. However, they are frequently mistaken for earthworms due to their shiny appearance. Unlike earthworms, Brahminy Blindsnakes are not segmented, and if you look closely at their heads, you’ll notice them sticking out their tiny tongues while being held
Interesting
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Where does the drains go. They need to be hooked up to a sump pump, pushing the water to the street drains.