Exploding Battery almost strands us in the Keys! E144

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  • @Drebo1971
    @Drebo1971 2 роки тому +12

    I always appreciate how you show the reality of boating. And more importantly perseverance and problem solving.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +3

      What, it's not all bikinis and free diving! Thanks. We try to keep it realistic, even when we look like idiots.

    • @PepeDeezNutz
      @PepeDeezNutz 2 роки тому +1

      💯

  • @eyeconspiracy
    @eyeconspiracy 2 роки тому +8

    I highly recommend buying a portable gas generator as backup. (No need to pay the Honda price, especially for a backup.) I bought a Wen 3800 for about $700. It can run my AC in aft cabin for a full night sleep on its 2.2g tank. This way you don't need to beeline for a marina when your main gen gives you a problem. Maybe you have plans or friends on board, and don't want to devote your time to fixing the main gen at the moment. No rush!...just use the portable. Also depending upon the size of your diesel generator, you may find it's more efficient to run the little gas gen when you just need to charge batteries.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      That's a good idea. We are planning to add more lithium batteries to our boat this winter. I could have run the inverter to charge the batteries as well but I had discharged them while we were running from Key West. More lithiums would solve that problem.

    • @LiveTheStreetLife
      @LiveTheStreetLife 2 роки тому

      You don’t need a small generator, especially a gasoline one. What you had overcame the problem in an emergency situation. It all worked.

    • @eyeconspiracy
      @eyeconspiracy 2 роки тому +1

      @@LiveTheStreetLife Except they had to drop all plans and run overnight for a marina at which only a couple nights for a boat that size would eclipse the price of a cheap gas generator. Yacht snobs like to turn up their noses at those little portable gas generators, but they are an awesome value.

    • @LiveTheStreetLife
      @LiveTheStreetLife 2 роки тому

      Except it turned out that they didn’t need to go overnight; their existing generator did fine. They could have turned around and gone back to Key West, Marathon, or a few other places to get a replacement battery. And not needing a piece of equipment that will never get used, needs maintenance, and additional gasoline storage doesn’t show that I’m a yacht snob. It shows that I’ve lived aboard for 19 years and have experience.

  • @DriveSafeDon
    @DriveSafeDon 2 роки тому +7

    Ed & Lynn I definitely enjoy your videos being an ex auto mechanic I can tell you that if the battery didn’t pop from being shorted out it’s possible it pop because it overheated usually overheating the battery is from overcharging please check your voltage regulators and make sure when your batteries are fully charged they’re not being overcharged. Stay well your friend and fan Don
    🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @DriveSafeDon
      @DriveSafeDon 2 роки тому +4

      @@Baba3756-n2o Cliff the problem with batteries that take distilled water is as they charge the acid boils which creates evaporation this is why we add distilled water in those types of batteries. better off getting a closed battery system this way no one has to worry about adding water so yes I would suggest upgrading to better batteries on both engines and generator and replace if needed the voltage regulators
      🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +2

      We suspected the battery needed to be topped off - not dry. We had topped them off when we left on the trip and we were topping them off again at the halfway point. It was probably about a pint low, as that was roughly what the other batteries were. We'll never know now. In past years, I only had to top batteries off every 4-6 months but I am suspecting that as batteries age they may eat water faster. The charger is a March "constant voltage charger." It is what Hatteras supplied when the boat was new. They are not smart, which is bad for longevity of the batteries, however, the charger can run everything on the boat, even with completely dead batteries. That is why the generator acting up was such a concern. I can start the boat off the charger if the generator is running. One thing I have never tested is using my lithium batteries to operate the charger and having the charger start the boat. Not sure if it will work but that would be an additional redundancy.

  • @vresor
    @vresor 2 роки тому +2

    Whew, always an adventure. Smart move moving on up the coast!

  • @lgriestra
    @lgriestra 2 роки тому +2

    Life is an adventure and in a yacht even more. Nice video and I am glad everything went well.

  • @allenharttrading5573
    @allenharttrading5573 2 роки тому +1

    wow what an exciting adventure... cant wait till me and my fiancé are living the same life on the water ... love you channel ... keep em coming !!!

  • @bidask123
    @bidask123 2 роки тому +2

    That McDonald Hardware Store. Iconic. They carry 10mm sockets.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      Reminds me of the hardware stores when I was a kid. The guys at the counter knew where everything was located.

  • @festerofest4374
    @festerofest4374 2 роки тому +1

    Two excellent and appropriate applications of Roger Out during the circumstances!! Duly noted!

  • @buzzydeft
    @buzzydeft 2 роки тому +1

    All is well that ends well...great video as usual.

  • @TheFalconJetDriver
    @TheFalconJetDriver 2 роки тому +1

    That battery was domed either way with putting tap water in the cells. It may have gotten you a little more time, but it would fail. Chances are one of the plates most likely shorted. It was a blast from the past to see the Quarter Deck I spent many hours there studding the McDonald Douglas DC 9 manuals there. 😁🛫

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      The batteries were 5 years old so it was time. We like that Quarter Deck as well. We can only go there when we have a car.

  • @notboeingnotgoing5483
    @notboeingnotgoing5483 2 роки тому +2

    I have a Sea Ray 63' I have had a battery explode from overcharging before....anyone ever told you that you look like a present day Michael Andretti the famous ex racer and current IndyCar team owner? He is youre doppelganger ...love youre videos

  • @garyruark9506
    @garyruark9506 2 роки тому

    Good save! Lynn is a trooper.

  • @andrewhaag8112
    @andrewhaag8112 2 роки тому

    Pirate Republic is one of my favorite restaurants in Ft. Lauderdale. Ate there twice when I was working on an opera over at the performing art center.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      The food is surprisingly good, considering it looks like a tourist place. We usually stop there every time we are in Ft Lauderdale.

  • @markeast9221
    @markeast9221 2 роки тому +2

    I saw a video last month where you changed over the batteries ?

    • @festerofest4374
      @festerofest4374 2 роки тому

      Yes, I thought so too? I’m confused. Maybe this is old footage from last year??

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      This footage was shot in July. I am slow at editing. The batteries were replaced last month and I did a video as part of our "This Old Boat" playlist.

  • @johnmarschalk1977
    @johnmarschalk1977 3 місяці тому

    Exploding Battery video - Just watched a video from James Thomas Listings on electrical systems. Mostly showing boats, but have seen some boat maintenance videos. Talked about how to tell if alternator actually charging and battery health. Said they're normally in hard to reach places, but need to look at the every few weeks to see if there's an issue. Lots of information on charging and how to know if it's actually running the boat instead of the batteries

  • @cwengle5119
    @cwengle5119 2 роки тому

    Gotta have those cocktails!!LOL!!

  • @edwardc.3710
    @edwardc.3710 2 роки тому +2

    As bre rabbit said please strand me in Key West !!

  • @Rule_303
    @Rule_303 2 роки тому

    The best peace of mind bit of kit I've put in my boat is an Integral 9kW alternator on my Starboard engine. After years of intermittent generator problems on multiple boats, having a backup that can put out 3 times the power mated to one of the commercial Perkins has just made electrical power a non issue.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      We have considered adding additional alternators to our engines. The current ones are 65amp and I am diverting 25 amps to charge the lithium batteries while underway. We have space on the Detroits for a direct drive alternator.

    • @Rule_303
      @Rule_303 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 I was highly skeptical, and my marine electrician thought I was insane, but we now have a few years of cruising with it, and almost never bother to run the Generator. We have three domestic split system A/C's that it powers and charges all the batteries. With 200A @48V available whenever on of the mains is running, power just becomes a non issue. We easily run 2 of the AC's all night from the inverter, and that is in Thailand summer. Who knew that trusting Nigel Calder was a good call :-)

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      What kind of battery bank to you have that can keep the inverter running two ACs all night?

    • @Rule_303
      @Rule_303 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 It's grown over time :-)
      Currently Have a 12V House bank of 13 x 180AH LiPo's and a further 4 @ 48V as the sump for the 8KVA Integral, that can be used a a reserve.
      We are Ocean going, so the plan was to easily have 24hours of full draw available.
      Even with 3 AC units running, She has rarely drawn more than 2kW per hour, average is around 18kW per day max.
      It's without doubt well over-engineered, but the domestic split systems are efficient, and two of them have lasted well over 10 years on a boat with less maintenance than the ones in my house.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the info. We currently only have 3200 watts of lithium but plan to add more this winter. I read up on your system and it looks fantastic. I would definitely consider it if our generator died. For now, I am planning to install another alternator or two on our Detroit diesels to charge the lithium while underway.

  • @billjeffery2419
    @billjeffery2419 2 роки тому +2

    as captain Ron would ,if its going to happen its going to happen out there, very fortunate.

  • @dirtyoldfarmhand3
    @dirtyoldfarmhand3 2 роки тому

    Wonderful.

  • @foreverfixin
    @foreverfixin 2 роки тому +1

    Glad y'all made it back okay you can expect stuff like this to happen on these older boots for sure good video girls

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      Even on newer boats things like this happen. Although probably more often on these old girls.

    • @foreverfixin
      @foreverfixin 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 I'm restoring a 1983 Carver Monterey 26 a trailerable cabin cruiser it sleeps four wet bath and a half kitchen more projects on that boat right now than I can count knocking them off one at a time though

  • @12000Jetlag
    @12000Jetlag 2 роки тому +3

    An exploding battery must have been scary! Glad that turned out ok for you. I heard it mentioned about adding plain water to a battery, please never do that. Only use distilled water or the minerals in the plain water will cause the battery to short. I learned that the hard way! Love following you on your adventures, thanks for sharing.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +3

      We always use distilled water. Thanks for watching!

    • @Big.Ron1
      @Big.Ron1 2 роки тому +3

      True but in an emergency it is better to ad tap water and get in to land than it is to be dead in the water. It would sooner or later the battery would die but with hindsight it would have been better than the battery exploding and spraying acid. Hindsight is always better and you are correct. Only in an emergency or extreme urgency use tap water.

  • @redhorse554det1
    @redhorse554det1 2 роки тому +1

    should not charge a lead acid battery when the electrolyte(water) is below the top of the plates. add water(any) to the level above the top of the plates. or gases can form and the possibility of over charge and explosion may happen. distilled water is prefered but when you are out, use drinking water. drinking water will not kill your battery.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      I did not notice where the water level was. It is very difficult to see because of the battery placement on the boat. I would need a mirror. In any case, the other batteries were about a pint short so I believe that is how low this one was. I could be wrong.

  • @anthoneyking6572
    @anthoneyking6572 2 роки тому +1

    Hi well I'm still left Not Knowing what was wrong with the Generator or do you think it was the Broken Batt that caused the Genni to pack up >? Great Vlog you both really needed that rest for sure Especially the Wife thanks for sharing

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      The screw that controls the governor is broken so I have it rigged. It needs to be set at the correct rpm or the generator does not produce electricity. I seemed that I was just having a hard time getting it set correctly.

    • @anthoneyking6572
      @anthoneyking6572 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 thanks m8 I kinda Guessed you had it Sorted thanks for the reply good of you

  • @leonard7736
    @leonard7736 Рік тому

    So a question if I may, at about 12:30 into the video, Lyn is at the front of the boat and she has her arm pointing in different directions is she letting you know where the chain and anchor are located? TIA Lenny from Arizona City. I am so hooked on your videos and learning a lot. You guys stay safe

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  Рік тому

      Sorry for late reply. Yes, she is using her arms to tell me where the anchor is so that I can bring the boat closer as she raises the chain. That alleviates stress on the windlass.

  • @danlintz4120
    @danlintz4120 2 роки тому

    Thanks for so many informative vids. My wife and I are going to give it a go in a few years. Love the seeing the hats when growing up on a tollycraft as a teen. Still want one but from all the DIY vids you and other hat owners do is it consuming or just once and a while? Handy myself but rather not spend our first years in retirement working 20 hours a week on the boat. Wife is also worried about getting stuck. Should we look at a newer boat? Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      I spend about 3-5 hours each week working on the boat. But it is mostly improvements. Right now I am adding a new head, a second power amp for the stereo and two new lithium batteries. Keeping it clean is probably the most time consuming thing we do. Actual repairs on our 3 month trip probably came up to about 8-10 hours.

    • @danlintz4120
      @danlintz4120 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 Thanks that's not so much after all : ) It's a hat then. Really like the 54ED with the upper galley. I hear only something like 13 made. Also looking for the 56 and 52 CY that was made until 1999.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 2 роки тому

    That looked like an expensive diversion. Better safe,than sorry. great video 2x👍

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      Not too bad. We just replaced it with a cheap golf cart battery for the short term.

  • @johnjerman510
    @johnjerman510 Рік тому

    Why you not using gel, maintenance free, or similar batteries?

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  Рік тому

      They were the batteries that came with the boat and have since been replaced. Also cost.

  • @paulkelly4731
    @paulkelly4731 2 роки тому

    ps, Faro Blanco, in Marathon, is a WONDERFUL place to stay.

  • @dandeclerck6742
    @dandeclerck6742 2 роки тому

    Y'know, similar electrical systems are installed in Long Haul Trucks (Peterbuilt, White/GMC, International, etc). You might be able to find replacement batteries at reasonable prices at Large Truck repair establishments.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      We replaced all the batteries about a month ago. It is in a recent video.

  • @kj3rd2657
    @kj3rd2657 2 роки тому

    What about having one of those Honda Potable Generator as backup on your boat? I use to have one in the Philippines years ago and it always works great for me. Just an idea for you.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      We could do that but we plan to add more lithium to our inverter bank so that we can run 24 hours without depleting the batteries. This would have enabled us to charge the batteries over night with the inverter.

  • @Big.Ron1
    @Big.Ron1 2 роки тому

    Wow. Never a dull moment. How expensive would it be to convert that old girl down to 24v? Be safe!

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      It would be very expensive (starters, alternators, heads, etc.). We do not mind it being 32 volts for those systems, however, we plan to add more lithium to our inverter bank so that we can run 24 hours without depleting the batteries.

  • @biffbrude675
    @biffbrude675 2 роки тому

    Shoot! I just found your channel and I'm waterfront on boot key harbor in Marathon. Definitely would have helped. Maybe next time. All the best 💪👍

  • @MooreFishing-ky3wq
    @MooreFishing-ky3wq 2 роки тому +1

    I’d get a portable backup generator .

  • @karlbass7895
    @karlbass7895 2 роки тому

    Nice job getting the battery issue straightened out. Kinda scary to think of a battery blowing its top off. What marina or anchorage/mooring field did you guys stay at in Key West and did you need a reservation way in advance? What month were you there? Sorry for all the questions. Stay safe.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      We stayed at Key West Bight Marina. It is owned by the city and much cheaper than the others. I called two days in advance. We were there at the end of June and beginning of July. I seem to recall that the prices drop in July as they consider it off season.

    • @karlbass7895
      @karlbass7895 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 Tu sir!

  • @gerhardvanwaltsleben8944
    @gerhardvanwaltsleben8944 2 роки тому +1

    Lekker man lekker

  • @joeglenn1480
    @joeglenn1480 2 роки тому

    Suitcase generator for emergency backup?

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      We actually have lithiums and an inverter on board that we would have used if we needed.

  • @lhunter3974
    @lhunter3974 2 роки тому

    Long day for you guys.

  • @darrylhealy8429
    @darrylhealy8429 2 роки тому

    Hey Guys, great content, keep it coming. Perhaps an investment in a good electrician to run an eye over your electrics may be in order by the sounds... anyway safe boating. Cheers

  • @barryholiday8998
    @barryholiday8998 2 роки тому

    Was that the marina’s car? Glad you guys got through that ordeal.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      No, we rented the car. Some marinas have courtesy cars but I do not think Los Olas has one.

  • @franktaraso2067
    @franktaraso2067 Рік тому

    “ Stranded in Key West” sounds like an oxymoron and definitely a first world problem. BTW, excellent fun and informative videos.

  • @tomkiefer2386
    @tomkiefer2386 2 роки тому

    Definitely old school hardware store.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      You can find everything in there, as long as you ask where it is!

  • @allenharttrading5573
    @allenharttrading5573 2 роки тому

    was that one of your new lithium batteries??

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      No, that was an 8 volt battery that is part of our 32 volt starting/house banks. It was about 5 years old. I have since replaced all the batteries in those banks.

  • @jquocksister
    @jquocksister 2 роки тому

    I guess the golf cart batteries no good?!

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      The gold cart battery worked great. We just replaced both of the banks with gold cart batteries. I did a video about a month ago about it. Half the weight and half the price.

  • @lifeofriley8160
    @lifeofriley8160 2 роки тому +1

    Love watching you. I assume you don't see the news. I shuddered when I saw you shopping in Florida without a mask. Covid raging there right now. Be careful. The new varient may not kill you but it makes you really sick. Speaking from experience.
    Would be miserable on a boat. Be safe!

  • @redhorse554det1
    @redhorse554det1 2 роки тому

    did you say " your alternators were charging at ' 40 volts'? ..that's way too much. 14.3 to say 14.6volts.. or did you mean 40amps?

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому +1

      Our boat has a 32 volt system. Still, I believe I misspoke and it was actually 38 volts.

  • @woodboat3G
    @woodboat3G 2 роки тому

    Haven't you replaced all your batteries with golf cart batteries?

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      Yes, last month. That video was filmed back in July.

    • @woodboat3G
      @woodboat3G 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 and the golf cart batteries are working correctly?
      All my 8 volt batteries are bad and I can't get a 32 V lithium pack to the correct voltage. I may be forced to go golf cart as the big rolls varieties are 625 each and I need 8 of them

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      So far they are working fine, and only $125 each.

    • @woodboat3G
      @woodboat3G 2 роки тому

      @@tryingnottosink9107 thanks.
      I probably will do the same when I get back to baltimore

  • @MrAE2780
    @MrAE2780 2 роки тому

    In the early part of the vlog between 7 and 8 minutes you mentioned that you were charging at 40 volts which equates to around 2.5 volts per cell,16 cell battery bank, which IMHO is too high for a 32 volt lead acid system and the number of hours that you run for on your long journey or crossings and the temperature of the battery compartment. At 2.5 volts per cell your liquid use (distiled water/electrolyte) could approach 20 times more than a "normal" lead acid charge per cell of 2.3 volts per cell or in your case a maximum battery bank charge voltage of 37 volts. Just my opinion of course.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      I did say 40 volts but I believe I misspoke. Looking at the gauge now I realize the needle was most likely at 38 volts. Not sure how accurate that is either. I notice on the meter on my 32 volt panel box it usually says 36 volts when charging. One day I will test it with an actual voltage meter to confirm. Thanks for the info.

  • @ysesq
    @ysesq 2 роки тому

    try dakora lithium dl135+

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      We currently have 4 lithium batteries onboard, but they are for the inverter.

  • @zaclee8200
    @zaclee8200 2 роки тому +1

    There is no Marathon key. You’re going to Vaca Key. Marathon is a city on Vaca Key. Just saying.

    • @tryingnottosink9107
      @tryingnottosink9107  2 роки тому

      You're right, I shouldn't be saying Key. However, to be even more accurate, we anchored outside Boot Key, not Vaca.

  • @garypoltonowicz7950
    @garypoltonowicz7950 2 роки тому +1

    First!