No way was that hull and running gear cleaned three weeks prior. Untrustworthy company I think. Hope you can use the footage to get some recompense from them!
Looks like you hired the same bottom cleaners I did years ago. Had the same exact issue and couldn't get up to RPMs and had a diver go and look and that's what we found. Good job on docking because that current around Peanut Island is brutal sometimes, especially going into Riviera Marina.
I had a partially closed emergency air damper on one of my Detroits--- ran fin e at 1000 rpm or lower, but black smoke thereafter. It happened that the emergency pull on the binnacle got "slightly" pulled, and the manifold damper was NOT fully deployed, but was choking off the air supply... it's a spring loaded
I had the same bad divers. Also I felt that in 1.5 years my paint had failed and diver could not keep up. Just went to a non ablative hard paint to handle the high water temps. The barnicles died the water was so hot here in Largo Fl. So far new paint works and self cleans at 18 mph.
The divers I used in Titusville dove my boat every month and did a good job. I was there most of the times the were there. As I headed north to start the Great Loop, in Palm Coast one of the divers came over to make sure all was still fine. I hope we were using different divers? My recent haul out for prop shaft seal replacement showed the bottom still quite clean.
Dessel fuel is like jet fuel, it can grow fungus in the fuel. That is why most polish the fuel Or make sure there is an additive like Prist in the fuel
Love your You Tube. I had a 45' Hatteras in south Florida for 25 years and had the same fuel issues you're having when I got below 1/2 a tank. I had the tanks cleaned and the fuel polished several times but that didn't solve the problem, so I just never went below 1/2 a tank. I didn't think of your pre filter idea but I think it's a good one. Your diver is lying to you, a common problem in that industry.
Exactly the same for us, hull was "cleaned" three weeks before departure, Vibration and low revs, bought in another dive company and found growth up to two inches in places. The original guys charge by the foot so go figure...... This was in the Palm Beach area as well.
I would say that is a lot more than three weeks of growth! I love the Sailfish Marina. My boss has his 100' Hatteras on the opposite side of Peanut Island. Their restaurant has the best conch chowder!
The "sludge" in your tanks may very well be mold. It grows in the interface between the fuel, and any water that was in the tank. It remains even after the water is removed. You can buy diesel mold killer to take care of the problem. But, be sure to have plenty spare filters on board first. You will go through several before the treatment is complete.
Wow - it looks like a trigger-fish has set up home in your bow-thruster. It's always amazed me just how quickly barnacles can build-up on a boat sometimes.
Does a “Clean” bottom have those white circles on it ? You leave the foundation and they will grow quickly . And if you are ok with white circles , don’t expect that prop to not vibrate or cavitate when running. You needed a haul out and a proper wash , scrape and sanding. Your diver can extend the time between haul out but isn’t going to prevent it . It does look like they skipped scraping the lower side of keel .
The Indian River can be crazy for barnacles (I'm in Brevard county). I left my center console a week in the Indian River and had plenty of growth on the hull and outboard. From my experience, it's not unexpected to see that growth in a few weeks.
definitely more than 3 weeks worth of growth. You can see the spots they scrapped and where they didn't. As for the RPM I don't think that would be enough growth to cause the issue. I'm thinking your back to an engine issue. Air, fuel, or maybe an injector. If you have a bad injector, you will have low RPMs and vibration due to cylinder not firing. Boat are notorious for that due to the constant low RPM hours (carbon buildup) and long down times not running at all.
That’s a lot of growth in 3 weeks, I would speak to the cleaning co. And ask them to provide a video or picture when complete. Also next season try adding some cayenne pepper to the bottom paint, it helps. 🍻
@@smcgee3236 I’m not sure of the ratio, a buddy of mine used to do it all the time and swore by it, I added about a quarter of a little container per gallon of ablative paint and it helped, I’m sure it will depend on where you do your boating. I boat in salt water.
yeah that looks like normal growth in Florida hot water. 55 Hatteras in Ponce inlet Marina just up the road from Titusville. my diver cleans twice a month. I have fresh bottom paint and prop speed welcome to Florida.
Lived just south of Boynton Inlet in Palm Beach County. The hot water in the summer and flow of water where I lived made it so after about 3 weeks I would have significant growth. Enough so that I would lose about 400 rpm on the engines. I do think though that your growth is more than 3 weeks worth.
I boat in Nova Scotia, Canada. Last season and so far this season, sea growth on my drives and hull has occurred considerably faster than any other season. Has anyone else in the Atlantic noticed the same? BTW...I do think you were ripped off by the diver you contracted.
It's hard to believe your hull has been cleaned as you think. However, it's not obvious to me that the hull is contributing to your 1000 RPM and vibration issue. Did you get it resolved?
Sailfish is pretty notorious for bad current. We're over across Peanut Island at RB City Marina where it's less but not zero. Sorry to have missed you. Heading out for West End on Sunday. m/y Activated Eau
and that's why I do my own bottem cleaning. Have had this happen to me in south Florida paid a guy for 7 months all he did is cash the checks. went to move the boat and had the same problem on my 52 hat cockpit. took me 10 hours and 3 dive tanks to clean the boat.
Just drain those tanks get rid of fuel and clean those tanks and lines.....every time you go in swells it just mixes up all the water and sludge etc....1st thing I did when I got my boat cleaned the tanks, 6 years ago, never, ever had a problem.....don't waste your time with polishing. You also have a drain which is lower than your fuel line, this drain gets the bottom sludge out, the fuel line is higher so not to get bottom sludge, polishing isn't going to suck up that bottom sludge, you will have problems all the time every time you are in swells that bottom muck gets mixed up .....
1) Diver is scamming you. 2) Prop speed is worth the money. 3) Hire a company to polish your fuel/clean tanks. Extra racors are a band-aid to the problem.
The last time my wife and I were in West Palm I ended up with broken ribs, couple vertebrae, and kidney contusions. What great time. Good pain meds and T&T's saved that trip for us. 😂
Isn’t there a special paint for the props and shafts I don’t know the name of it but I know it’s expensive and it looks gold after you paint it on the props but it looks like it’s time for a pull out and repaint for sure. Either you need a fuel polishing system or you need to have the sludge removed from those fuel tanks like we used to do in the oil tanks when we burned home heating oil in the basement of our house when I lived in New York.
I read a lot of the comments and I am confused. Some say the bottom buildup can happen quickly depending where your docked. Others say you were ripped off. What really happened? Cheers, Rik Spector
Time to get your fuel tanks cleaned out. You’ve got a bunch of sludge in there and it’ll keep plugging various filters until you do a proper tank clean
I’ve had that amount of growth on my hill in four weeks. This happens in Florida shallow warm waters. It’s a pain to get off. My hull actually looked worse than yours.
I have 6V92 Detroits in my boats. I had an "algae" problem in my tanks a few years ago. I assume you know you have to treat your fuel or the problem will get continuously worse, because it's actually growing in your tanks. I used Killem and it works well. Since then, I use it whether I'm having a problem or not.
Micron 44 was the best of the best. Only had to haul every other year and didn't need a diver. Environmentalists wiped it off the market. The battle ship NJ was recently in the yard for new bottom paint. News media said the 3 new coats expected to last 35 YEARS. What's the Navy using ??
The way I'm lookin at it is there is clean spots and Barnacle spots. Why is their not a even layer all over. Barnacles will grow on the entire bottom surface. The clean area is what has been scraped clean. The Props and shafts lower keel was not touched. Lazy workers , they only did half a job so that they didn't feel bad about charging you. Its a way of getting out and staying im sorry my guy did a bad job or I fired that guy.
My Bertram is here in Broward County so a LOT further south and I've NEVER had that much growth in even 2 months. SPEAK to others where you were docked as some areas are more prone to growth. Bottom paints ALL suck thanks to the environmentalists but fresh paint is better and different paints work better in different areas so you should also speak to others in your area for recomendations. Looks like whatever yard you haul at is going to have a "field day" with the extra scraping charge and then odds are will also need sanding to get her smooth or performance will be hindered. Down here Micron CSC, one of their medium priced paints seems to work best and forget about using Tri Lux on running gear as it appears the formula was changed and the last few years it sucked. Prop Speed has NO anti growth but when in the water is extremely slippery to prevent barnicles from adhearing to it. Been using for 3 years now on props & shafts but it's SUPEER expensive and whoever applies it MUST follow the application instructions or it will just wash off. Welcome to my world. Lastly; an old buddy purchased a home on the Dania Cut Off Canal for the dock water. Want to see what grows; just look at the dock pilings. For some reason, except for a light moss, nothing grows there. Same with the house he used to have on South Bimini. Personally I think the clearer the water the less growth.
Yeah, thats definitely not 3 weeks of growth.. and that bow thruster doesnt look great either. I would definitely not use those divers if they claimed they did it.
Sigh...this is why I do nearly everything around my house or my vehicles myself. Trust has faded to a very dim glow in America. My wife lives with a sad but useful matra that I will share with you now: People are a constant source of disappointment. I'm glad that the source of your problem is obvious!
You are smart enough to know that your bottom cleaner must be fired. Absolutely no way it was cleaned 3weeks ago. Haul out and do bottom job. Anti foul is not working. Good luck
I'd clean your boat for trade. I'd really like to learn the ins and outs of a hatteras and spend a few days on one. I'd pay for my own necessities of course, food etc.
Typical , hard to find a legit diver .... had same issue on my boat when I had it down south . Bottom neglected as well as ac strainer , now we use a bromalating tablet in strainer , and hired a better diver
It's a pain, but just filter your fuel from the filling nozzle. Unless there is water in the fuel, there will be no more fuel issues. Speaking from experience.
Wow, I think you are probably getting ripped off from the hull cleaning company. Just sayin. Or you got in to waters with mutant ninja barnacles that grow at a super rapid pace.
No way was that hull and running gear cleaned three weeks prior. Untrustworthy company I think. Hope you can use the footage to get some recompense from them!
It's a shame that there are companies out there ripping people off. If it were me, I'd shout 'em out!
Hey Guys! It was great running with you! Hope the journey on to the Bahamas went much better!
We had a blast. We are back in Titusville now.
I don't hear you say "roger out" anymore😢.... it always put a smile on my face..
Fire those divers saying once a month and it's 3 weeks ago done!
Make them video or picture bottom ...that's what we get
I have followed you now for a few years and I love your adventures and your videos
Looks like you hired the same bottom cleaners I did years ago. Had the same exact issue and couldn't get up to RPMs and had a diver go and look and that's what we found. Good job on docking because that current around Peanut Island is brutal sometimes, especially going into Riviera Marina.
@@markbarry9945 Yeah getting fuel at the dock can be challenging when the tide is ripping
@@stevenlageson1868 for sure, you almost have to time it with slack tide
I had a partially closed emergency air damper on one of my Detroits--- ran fin e at 1000 rpm or lower, but black smoke thereafter. It happened that the emergency pull on the binnacle got "slightly" pulled, and the manifold damper was NOT fully deployed, but was choking off the air supply... it's a spring loaded
I had the same bad divers. Also I felt that in 1.5 years my paint had failed and diver could not keep up. Just went to a non ablative hard paint to handle the high water temps. The barnicles died the water was so hot here in Largo Fl. So far new paint works and self cleans at 18 mph.
thanks for great videos and content. You need a fuel polishing system, for cleaning your fuel in the tanks.
The divers I used in Titusville dove my boat every month and did a good job. I was there most of the times the were there. As I headed north to start the Great Loop, in Palm Coast one of the divers came over to make sure all was still fine. I hope we were using different divers? My recent haul out for prop shaft seal replacement showed the bottom still quite clean.
also prop speed will help with this. it works great !!
You were HAD. The growth on your keel and bow thruster took months to get that big and numerous.
Dessel fuel is like jet fuel, it can grow fungus in the fuel. That is why most polish the fuel Or make sure there is an additive like Prist in the fuel
Prist is an anti-ice agent. it does not inhibit the growth of bio side you need something like bio bore
Oh wow I collect those wooden or metal fish plaques, I have em all over my boat, those are nice ones that guy has there 👌
Love your You Tube. I had a 45' Hatteras in south Florida for 25 years and had the same fuel issues you're having when I got below 1/2 a tank. I had the tanks cleaned and the fuel polished several times but that didn't solve the problem, so I just never went below 1/2 a tank. I didn't think of your pre filter idea but I think it's a good one. Your diver is lying to you, a common problem in that industry.
Thanks 👍
CHEERS from capt flint glad to see ya - time for a pirate party = be safe and plunder wisely
Exactly the same for us, hull was "cleaned" three weeks before departure, Vibration and low revs, bought in another dive company and found growth up to two inches in places. The original guys charge by the foot so go figure...... This was in the Palm Beach area as well.
Thanks for sharing
I would say that is a lot more than three weeks of growth! I love the Sailfish Marina. My boss has his 100' Hatteras on the opposite side of Peanut Island. Their restaurant has the best conch chowder!
The "sludge" in your tanks may very well be mold. It grows in the interface between the fuel, and any water that was in the tank. It remains even after the water is removed. You can buy diesel mold killer to take care of the problem. But, be sure to have plenty spare filters on board first. You will go through several before the treatment is complete.
Wow - it looks like a trigger-fish has set up home in your bow-thruster. It's always amazed me just how quickly barnacles can build-up on a boat sometimes.
Does a “Clean” bottom have those white circles on it ?
You leave the foundation and they will grow quickly .
And if you are ok with white circles , don’t expect that prop to not vibrate or cavitate when running.
You needed a haul out and a proper wash , scrape and sanding.
Your diver can extend the time between haul out but isn’t going to prevent it .
It does look like they skipped scraping the lower side of keel .
Holy Barnacles! Roger-Out!
The Indian River can be crazy for barnacles (I'm in Brevard county). I left my center console a week in the Indian River and had plenty of growth on the hull and outboard. From my experience, it's not unexpected to see that growth in a few weeks.
definitely more than 3 weeks worth of growth. You can see the spots they scrapped and where they didn't. As for the RPM I don't think that would be enough growth to cause the issue. I'm thinking your back to an engine issue. Air, fuel, or maybe an injector. If you have a bad injector, you will have low RPMs and vibration due to cylinder not firing. Boat are notorious for that due to the constant low RPM hours (carbon buildup) and long down times not running at all.
Yea it definitely sounds like an injector issue to me as well.
Maybe that outfit that cleaned your hull can clean your injectors too, wouldn't hurt to call and ask them and how much they charge.
That’s a lot of growth in 3 weeks, I would speak to the cleaning co. And ask them to provide a video or picture when complete. Also next season try adding some cayenne pepper to the bottom paint, it helps. 🍻
Haven’t heard that before, how much do you add what’s the ratio?
@@smcgee3236 I’m not sure of the ratio, a buddy of mine used to do it all the time and swore by it, I added about a quarter of a little container per gallon of ablative paint and it helped, I’m sure it will depend on where you do your boating. I boat in salt water.
@@smcgee3236 Just keep adding the cayenne until it tastes as hot as you can stand it.
We had similar experience with monthly dive cleans. Ended in replacing a bow thruster. PIA but lesson learned.
yeah that looks like normal growth in Florida hot water.
55 Hatteras in Ponce inlet Marina just up the road from Titusville.
my diver cleans twice a month.
I have fresh bottom paint and prop speed
welcome to Florida.
Lived just south of Boynton Inlet in Palm Beach County. The hot water in the summer and flow of water where I lived made it so after about 3 weeks I would have significant growth. Enough so that I would lose about 400 rpm on the engines. I do think though that your growth is more than 3 weeks worth.
I boat in Nova Scotia, Canada. Last season and so far this season, sea growth on my drives and hull has occurred considerably faster than any other season. Has anyone else in the Atlantic noticed the same? BTW...I do think you were ripped off by the diver you contracted.
Ah, 😅the joys of motor yacht ownership.
Looks like your regular diver likes the old short day, full pay routine.
It's hard to believe your hull has been cleaned as you think. However, it's not obvious to me that the hull is contributing to your 1000 RPM and vibration issue. Did you get it resolved?
Sailfish is pretty notorious for bad current. We're over across Peanut Island at RB City Marina where it's less but not zero. Sorry to have missed you. Heading out for West End on Sunday. m/y Activated Eau
Have fun in West End!
I’m looking at Sailfish Marina right now. Tried to get a slip there tonight but some fish tournament. Nothing available. Anchored at Peanut Island
and that's why I do my own bottem cleaning. Have had this happen to me in south Florida paid a guy for 7 months all he did is cash the checks. went to move the boat and had the same problem on my 52 hat cockpit. took me 10 hours and 3 dive tanks to clean the boat.
Just drain those tanks get rid of fuel and clean those tanks and lines.....every time you go in swells it just mixes up all the water and sludge etc....1st thing I did when I got my boat cleaned the tanks, 6 years ago, never, ever had a problem.....don't waste your time with polishing. You also have a drain which is lower than your fuel line, this drain gets the bottom sludge out, the fuel line is higher so not to get bottom sludge, polishing isn't going to suck up that bottom sludge, you will have problems all the time every time you are in swells that bottom muck gets mixed up .....
1) Diver is scamming you. 2) Prop speed is worth the money. 3) Hire a company to polish your fuel/clean tanks. Extra racors are a band-aid to the problem.
The last time my wife and I were in West Palm I ended up with broken ribs, couple vertebrae, and kidney contusions. What great time. Good pain meds and T&T's saved that trip for us. 😂
No way that is 3 weeks of build up. Dive company did not clean proper. Crazy
Isn’t there a special paint for the props and shafts I don’t know the name of it but I know it’s expensive and it looks gold after you paint it on the props but it looks like it’s time for a pull out and repaint for sure. Either you need a fuel polishing system or you need to have the sludge removed from those fuel tanks like we used to do in the oil tanks when we burned home heating oil in the basement of our house when I lived in New York.
I read a lot of the comments and I am confused.
Some say the bottom buildup can happen quickly
depending where your docked.
Others say you were ripped off.
What really happened?
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Time to get your fuel tanks cleaned out. You’ve got a bunch of sludge in there and it’ll keep plugging various filters until you do a proper tank clean
I’ve had that amount of growth on my hill in four weeks. This happens in Florida shallow warm waters. It’s a pain to get off. My hull actually looked worse than yours.
I have 6V92 Detroits in my boats. I had an "algae" problem in my tanks a few years ago. I assume you know you have to treat your fuel or the problem will get continuously worse, because it's actually growing in your tanks. I used Killem and it works well. Since then, I use it whether I'm having a problem or not.
We use it several times per year, when the boat is sitting. Didn't help much this year!
Vibration yes , over a 1000 rpm no. sad on the divers not doing there job
Who ever develops a Anti-Barnacle product will become a Billiobaire
Micron 44 was the best of the best. Only had to haul every other year and didn't need a diver. Environmentalists wiped it off the market. The battle ship NJ was recently in the yard for new bottom paint. News media said the 3 new coats expected to last 35 YEARS. What's the Navy using ??
The way I'm lookin at it is there is clean spots and Barnacle spots. Why is their not a even layer all over. Barnacles will grow on the entire bottom surface. The clean area is what has been scraped clean. The Props and shafts lower keel was not touched. Lazy workers , they only did half a job so that they didn't feel bad about charging you. Its a way of getting out and staying im sorry my guy did a bad job or I fired that guy.
My Bertram is here in Broward County so a LOT further south and I've NEVER had that much growth in even 2 months. SPEAK to others where you were docked as some areas are more prone to growth. Bottom paints ALL suck thanks to the environmentalists but fresh paint is better and different paints work better in different areas so you should also speak to others in your area for recomendations. Looks like whatever yard you haul at is going to have a "field day" with the extra scraping charge and then odds are will also need sanding to get her smooth or performance will be hindered. Down here Micron CSC, one of their medium priced paints seems to work best and forget about using Tri Lux on running gear as it appears the formula was changed and the last few years it sucked. Prop Speed has NO anti growth but when in the water is extremely slippery to prevent barnicles from adhearing to it. Been using for 3 years now on props & shafts but it's SUPEER expensive and whoever applies it MUST follow the application instructions or it will just wash off. Welcome to my world. Lastly; an old buddy purchased a home on the Dania Cut Off Canal for the dock water. Want to see what grows; just look at the dock pilings. For some reason, except for a light moss, nothing grows there. Same with the house he used to have on South Bimini. Personally I think the clearer the water the less growth.
no way that much growth in 3 weeks
All those barnacles will certainly screw up your boats performance
You should have your tanks cleaned if there is access.
Definitely NOT three weeks growth. A 'chat' with your dive company looks to be required!!!
That goes to show ya - it’s always something!
I would say no as for the cleaning. Does it seem like Florida is worse than where you had stored it before?
Ridiculous! No way that was three weeks of growth there.
I have them do before pictures/ video and when they're done ask new pictures/ video?
Sailfish marina - home of the 25 dollar appetizer.
NO, that boat bottom has not been cleaned in a long time in many areas.
What about hiring a co. to polish the fuel in the tanks . In some locations stateside there are people that do fuel polishing .
Yeah, thats definitely not 3 weeks of growth.. and that bow thruster doesnt look great either. I would definitely not use those divers if they claimed they did it.
Sigh...this is why I do nearly everything around my house or my vehicles myself. Trust has faded to a very dim glow in America. My wife lives with a sad but useful matra that I will share with you now: People are a constant source of disappointment.
I'm glad that the source of your problem is obvious!
Yikes. I made a DIY fuel polisher for my boat. Picks up a lot a junk, my tank is only 9 gallons. 😳
You are smart enough to know that your bottom cleaner must be fired. Absolutely no way it was cleaned 3weeks ago. Haul out and do bottom job. Anti foul is not working. Good luck
nark,em out tell us who that was,,, that aint right captain
That's what happens when you let your boat sit still in the water for too long
Like everyone else is saying... that bottom was NOT cleaned properly. Sad that people take your money and don't do the work.
I'd clean your boat for trade. I'd really like to learn the ins and outs of a hatteras and spend a few days on one. I'd pay for my own necessities of course, food etc.
Visit us some time.
wtf, 3 weeks no effing way. i only run a small 23ft go fast but bullshit 3 weeks i would be pissed off.
Was cleaned. Florida water this year very warm need to dive every 10 days
Personally, I would ask for a video after they do the cleaning if you are not comfortable going down there yourself
When you guys gonna do the loop, Hopefully next year when Kathy and I do it!
How old is the bottom paint?
Two years. Black ablative over a blue hard paint
Take samples to see how old they are
No way .. 3 weeks. Yeah right
I started diving and cleaning the boat of my boat. I anchor in clear water and do it. I don't trust divers and a lot of them do a poor job!
great video but constructive feedback.. the breaking glass sound effects were not pleasant
No way they did there job I would call them to get a refund, and plaster the company name all over social media.
You left it parked in Florida too long
definitely got ripped off
Name them! That is ridiculous!
No few months worth then it was cleaned poorly
clearly this was not properly cleaned 3 weeks ago. you got robbed.
No way
“what should we do?” …. fire the diving company … after getting a refund for the last “clean” (not)
make anyone doing this work when you are in PA video the bottom b4 and after the work. name the company that did it
Typical , hard to find a legit diver .... had same issue on my boat when I had it down south . Bottom neglected as well as ac strainer , now we use a bromalating tablet in strainer , and hired a better diver
It's a pain, but just filter your fuel from the filling nozzle. Unless there is water in the fuel, there will be no more fuel issues. Speaking from experience.
that was not cleaned
You are being ripped off.
Wow, I think you are probably getting ripped off from the hull cleaning company. Just sayin. Or you got in to waters with mutant ninja barnacles that grow at a super rapid pace.
Did you get kisses before they " ya know" ya that hard?
I think your owed some money back for a job you paid for and didn’t receive
Next time you haul out, consider using copper coat.
This is NOT 3 weeks of growth…more like 2-3 months!! You are being scammed my friend.
Music is annoying!