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Ways to Learn Tattooing - Tattoo Shop Talk
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2018
- There are multiple ways to learn tattooing and in this talk with Janis we are mostly talking about his experience in times before UA-cam of long way of discovering things on your own. Now times are different and there is a lot more info available as well as tattooists to share experiences with.
For around one year shop Rigas Tinte where Janis is working with his team they have apprentice and they are passing they knowledge on.
We will talk about long way of doing it which is on your own. Hard way of doing which is learning all you can and wrong way which would be expecting that you are natural and all you need you can pick up from some videos and forums.
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What's your plan?
If you're considering to start learning tattooing what's your plan of action???
If you're already doing it - what's your routine?
If you know any horror stories then let the world know.
Thank you you lovely human beings and other creatures.
I’ve been learning tattooing for more than 5 years now and soon I will start my apprenticeship. Hopefully one day I can become a tattoo artist. I sketch everyday and do free tattoo for friends once or twice a year.
UA-cam and the internet helps a lot, downloaded some ebooks, about tuning coils, some of color theory, test my grey wash untill I was happy, searched a lot of bio safety stuff. UA-cam is really great platform for learning
UA-cam is getting better and better with more great people sharing they knowledge
mine was, during the first couple of months of apprenticeship, i told my teacher, he this is easy. He said ok its time for you to tattoo yourself. The lines where blown out so bad. learned my lesson quick
Love it. The best way to learn.
Hearing the story of how Jānis started off tattooing (still respecting everything he does and did), makes me feel grateful, that I am in the era when tattooing is pretty common, and information is available everywhere. And that I don't have to struggle figuring things out on my own, even if it is fun at times, I like to learn and know what I am doing. I will be forever thankful to Emīls for him showing me how things are around tattooing and how shit works. But still, every time I train on tattooing I learn more and more. And the hardest thing for me is adjusting my hand to the tattoo machine, because of course, it is not the same as drawing with a pencil, hah.
Anyhow, as always, love your videos, I find them very useful, thanks. xx
+Barbara Crane you better absorb that information good. If you have a chance to learn from that guy then you don't want to miss a single thing.
Tattoo Shop Talk oooh yes, believe me, I know, I was like the wolds most absorbing sponge next to Emīls while he was telling me the smallest details.
+Barbara Crane being sponge is good :)
Lines!! And tattooing yourself s pretty difficult for myself 🤷 ive learned my depths better on others by feeling the needle with my stretching hand...on myself most places the pain was distracting me from concentrating on feeling the other things i needed to feel or sounds i needed to pay attention to. But everyone one is difference.
Love your shop talk!!
Thanks for the input
First of, so stoked you make this content! Please keep it going and maybe try individual mics for each of you hahah
So far I've just tried to tattoo my friends and my plan is just to keep on doing it for free - until I feel like I can actually charge someone for the work that I do. I'm still learning and I'm only doing handpoking, so there's tons of history and tradition that I wanna learn - so I'm looking into books, youtube, instagram and other local DIY tattooers. As you say there's really no shame in doing it yourself and just trying it out - the issue is that tattooing has gotten increasingly popular and some shops wanna gatekeep the industry so it doesn't get a bad reputation because of a few bad apples.
My routine is to draw flash daily, try out new stuff every day and challenge myself on composition and tonality - I love to draw anything, but I'm all about surprising myself and that's where tattooing is really super gratifying because it's always a new person, new canvas and new idea.
Some of my best tattoos on me I've still gotten in shops, because there's just so much experience that a seasoned shop tattoo artist has and it's good to just get tattoos from people you admire and watch them work! But I love the handpoking scene and how intimate and practical it is. Also it pollutes less lol. Thanks guys!!
currently learning on my own, basically ive been drawing a bit and saw that i can draw better than some of the tattoo artists in my area. Also i do alot of research before i do anything. so UA-cam has been a great source of info for me. From what type of machine to get, what cartridges, what ink. Did a tattoo on myself a couple of days ago turned out pretty decent, still first few lines were pretty shaky. Definitley have to practice more on fake skin. Even though Friends are already eager to get some tattoos.
I’m on the same boat as you!
I understand. Im 26 and a mom of 3 now. I started drawing when a was little, tracing, coloring in anything that had an empty border, sketching things that i looked at on classroom walls. When i started drawing on my self as kid my mom grounded me all the time. I have tried to get an apprentchip before. I was told he would teach me but i couldn't afford what he was asking so i have just been practicing on my own for years. I will try again though.
Learned hygiene before actual technique. Learning to do my linework evenly was a lot different from drawing on paper, making your shading smooth takes a lot of practice too. I had to figure out how to hand stencil and use technique that wouldnt smudge the stencil away early too.
I've done my first tattoo on a living human :) recently. I started by working as a shop admin and I'm still doing that. During my work I learned a lot about tattoing in theory, so I hope it is the right way )). Fake skin gave me the idea of the weight of the machine in the hand, so to say. It is a new instrument after all. I'd recommend it for all the starters.
Grate job making these videos! I enjoy them all the time! Thanks!
+Anna Pleshakova what was main thing you noticed when tried to tattoo first time. Was there anything different from what you imagined it will feel like?
Tattoo Shop Talk well, it's a lot like drawing, especially if you've drawn the design by yourself. But it was difficult for me to think about the lines, the engle of the needle and keep the stretch simultaneously. Good stretch is super important, I learned )).
+Anna Pleshakova usually people are surprised that it's way harder than it looks like. And also there way more to it like you said about focusing and all that.
Tattoo Shop Talk sure. I've observed the guys in our shop for half a year and new, it's way harder than it seems. I was very nervous anyway )) and probably will be for the next 50 tattoos at least ))
In the same boat here, did my first tattoo on myself last week and my first tattoo on another person this week after working in a shop for half a year also. a lot nicer to practice on another person than yourself! i think the time learning the hygiene and business side before you think about tattooing is super important
I do want one day to learn how to tattoo. This said, I am not in a hurry. I started drawing flash half a year ago and it's been challenging but also rewarding. From what I have read, listened, watch, drawing is the foundation of tattooing. I know it is freakin obvious to write that but there are so many people who rush and want to start tattooing before even being able to draw decent motives. Thanks for the videos, interesting guests and useful information!
Yes. Like people say - learn to walk before you run
I'm just like Jncs, I'm learning on my own and I draw a lot since I was a little shit but I got interested in tattooing about 10 years ago and I started practicing tattooing for 5 years with no help, I practice on "fake skin" and I've seeked out apprenticeship here in NYC to learn and grow but it is hard.
This business is heavily guarded so I'm left to continue on my own until I can get lucky. But I really wish I had someone teaching me or know someone who can give me some advice.
I love art especially on skin, and I want to be a part of that. Great chat video, wish you guys continued success.
In this age of technology and information you're not left out and if you know where to look and what look for I'm pretty sure you can become descent. On other hand I don't think it is that guarded and with correct approach and attitude (which often is an issue) you can find someone good to tech you.
I know the feeling I've seeked out apprenticeships. I've decided to buy my own equipment and practice on fake skin on the other hand i know a lot of people who actually want me to do there tattoos I have a love and passion for the art of tattooing
I have learned a bunch from you guys about proper way of setup and getting the courage to ask someone to show you
Y’all’s accents are awesome ❤
I'm in the same boat still learning about coil machine how to change from shader to color packet sculpting liner to solid punch liner .adjusting volts learning proper depth and the best inks that flow and saturate well
I agree with ALot of what u guys said. Imva graffiti artist trying to get into tattooing and the hardest part of this is learning how to draw things besides cartoon characters and letterforms.... I'm learning slowly but I believe that stretching is very important.... equipment is also as important....
I originally started out as a custom motorcycle airbrush artist, I designed some art for some bikers, and they suggested I get into tattooing, I foolishly thought it would be easy, The most difficult part for me was getting accustomed to the weight of the machine while trying to make a straight line. One of my horror stories was discovering rat bones in a tattoo shop bathroom, and another was when one owner would just ultrasonic clean the metal tubes without sterilizing them, He would just shake off the dirty water slip the needle in and then bring the client in. Needless to say, I learned what NOT to do in my shop. I believe the Unimax book you're talking about is by Huck Spaulding.
I have heard it often that airbrush people get into tattooing and tattooists who are around bike world try their hand in airbrush. And yes that is the book. Thanks
This was very interesting. Thank you. I'll share my horror story and my plans with you: I live in France and have a master degree in fine arts. During my last year at university , 6 years ago, I bought a tattoo machine on ebay (stupid thing to do), thinking it was a great idea to practice on my own arm, I started tattooing a sort of odd creature without using any stencil or without a previous drawing on the skin. I ended up slicing it up and I even ended up with a strange permanent blue stain that looked like a bruise. The lines faded away, the machine wasn't working as I expected, So I was bought an other machine of better quality but I was out of money and couldn't afford a good one: it was made for shading, not for tracing lines and i continued the strange monster on my arm with it. It was extremely painfull, the result was terrible: enormous and very black (and everyday it reminds me of how useless I can be hihi). It was an extremely stupid thing to do but, hopefuly, I only damaged my own skin. I finaly went off to Colombia to teach fine arts and covered this tatoo with a big black sleeve in Medellin . Anyway, even if this first experience was a bad one, I still want to learn. I'm back in France, and I tried to find an apprenticeship without any success. I live in the middle of nowhere, you haven't a lot of tattoo shops in the area . But one of the advise I had was: "You already know how to draw, so invest in a good machine and practice in doing very small tattoos at first". I've been practicing with my "shader" machine but I feel very limited. I'm going to make the step and invest in a decent tattoo machine. Thanks again for this video
That's some story. Do you have a picture of that first tattoo you made maybe? If you have it would be great to see it
First thing Ive learned since I started was packing in color and depth. My first time with the machine. I was to light with my hand. Any pointers on packing in color and planting your hand for proper needle depth?
Hardest thing for me was how much the machine moved. and how to really get a good grip and holding it. I was used to painting and draw so that threw me off.
i learn by asking diferent tattoo artists that i meet, or i found on social media... i watch stuff on youtube and i tattoo everyday at my home, people ,that have or do tattoos, say i work steril ,but i really wanna get an aprentice. First time when i tattooed the nidlle cartige get out from my tattoo machine... and still now i get stuck on diferent things that i dont understand...
I wish you all the best finding apprenticeship... Being around someone with more experience makes things way more clear
Problem: cheap equipment, lack of information how to draw like you're almost tattooing I mean lining/shading a drawing like a tattoo. Get used to stuff, the routine, how to use photoshop like a ninja etc. :D
I got my portfolio ready and hope I'm given a chance to be in a shop
Nothing beats paper and pencil colored pencils markers etc. Learn learn learn hand pressure blending color saturation strong lines iPad and drawing apps can't give you the experience
Awesome video! I grew up in New York in the 90s and tattooing didnt become legal until 97, but even when I was in my teens and early 20s everyone I knew who did tattoos were doing them from home, so I just assumed that was how you went about it.
Now I'm 31 and I want to get an apprenticeship. I had bought a cheap kit off Amazon and practiced on my leg for a period of time in 2016 but found out I was going to make things harder on myself, so I just have practiced my drawing, and now I'm going to look for a shop that will take me under. Any advice for approaching artists about an apprenticeship? I too am very shy
Thanks for input. As for approaching artists first rule would be- don't be a dick, and second probably- be honest about what your plans are. It might take some time before you get to know people and that would also help you not to be in place where you might be very unhappy. Being shy is something you have to work on because tattooing is also working with people and shy is not good approach.
I agree with you guys about the fake skin, it helps to gain confidence. I use a product called Reelskin for learning on, it has a bit of stretch to it and is a lot easier to shade on. My first ever tattoo was on pig skin, it was terrible, the skin smelt so freakin bad.
+AshKulkin pigskin is losing being useful.
love the vids Juris, i put these on the background to draw to. Im working on a portfolio and i feel like i can improve a little more before i take it in to seriously look for an apprenticeship. I want to take what i have in now to the local shops to get feedback but i dont want to bother them with reviewing my shit while they're working. My question to anyone out there with experience in the industry is there a smart or better way to go about this?
+Sergio cruz good portfolio and dedication is the key. Also find a shop that you want to be part of. Sometimes being good customer helps to get your foot in a door and you can definitely learn a lot like that.
All the best luck to you
Thanks for the reply, ill definitely try that out. Keep up the vids man!
I’d love to see buddy’s tattoos 👌
I also built one of those prison tattoo machine for fun then was dead drunk during that night, and said effin yeah i'll try this out with a steadler ink... back in my college day..
Dead drunk and tattoo machine is great combo
@@TattooShopTalk true that... covered it though but still showing lol.. that was a slight regret.
My grandpa's name was Janis and it was a fabulous name. Rip.
R.I.P. my friend
What about taking online sanitation courses, or bloodborne pathogen courses? Those should be respected and acknowledged if someone is willing to do the work.
Help!
I be tattooing almost 3y,I'm good at drawing and tattoos,I learn everything by my self , but I have problem to got studio to work there .
You probably aren’t as good as you think
@@donovanlankford2089 what should I do ? But even I down tattoo , mostly says I'm good
3 years is nothing in tattooing and saying you're good doesn't necessarily mean that you're. Let people looking at your portfolio decide that.
@@TattooShopTalk yes it's right I think it's most important things , so what I can do ? If I'm so bad what's is best thing for me ?
@@TattooShopTalk and also I didn't comment to you descace me I'm good or bad, you made video to talk about things and help almost other tattooer to got right thing and I ask what can i do, and where I from it's not easy to doing tattoo or think about it, but I never give up and I want to be best thing I can be,any one need some where to start, and I looking for that, no one born as a tattoo gods with all that experience and nice job. All those tat' s start some where.
But unfortunately here the first thing it's can help you for first steps to got practice in studio it's where are you from and your are outsiders or not !!! I'm not say I'm so good at tattooing I say I have some experience and nkow some thing and that I find out by myself but nkow and need some one to help me to be better. Last place I go was talk to me and give me promise to help and offer me practice but he give it to some not good at all person cuz he was not outsiders.in this country most all of them care about money and how to got money. They forget art and be artist.
Why can he not respond to the questions about time frames? Just to give an overall idea
He's a mystery man
easy find guinea pig and make it colorful! haha no srsly dont start if you have no idea wtf are you doing.. Great vid! :d
+Blind Rosh welllllllll.... you can stick fake skin on a friend
The best to learn depth haha! yeah Cheers m8s! :D
+Blind Rosh if it gets too deep then friend will let you know - unlike fake skin. Probably
it does helps to learn as well how to achive quality tattoo haha
Handling the machine
+winterheavens that is one thing you can learn forever and then a bit more
pig skin is the best to practice ! because is feels really like a human skin. And
What up homies
I also have a freezer slap full of pigskin!
+jp trout duuuuuuude. Thats both - disgusting and makes me hungry
what kind of tattoo shop sells a tattoo machine to a guy that knows nothing about it lol
Depending on situation and person. Probably no one would sell to just some random guy