Thank you for this video! I’m on the hunt for an aftermarket exhaust for my GT4, and hearing the options in a single video is a huge help. Extremely well done.
Thank you for talking about our exhaust components! We have a wide range of offerings from headers to tips - and a Valved Exhaust to for those who like control over the valves. -Mike
Great comparison. I live in Germany and I decided to go for the Cargraphic Racing for my Spyder. I can confirm the Sound is Perfect now. 😎Installation was a little tricky. But finally its a Real Porsche now. The combination of Handling, Design and Sound.
I have the JCR titanium OPF delete pipes- non silenced. They give a great sound. It's on my channel but I haven't done any severe runs, but you can get a good idea on the short video.
Reference the separate valve control unit what we really need is someone like COBB to support the GTS/GT4/Spyder which will allow us to configure the OEM PSE RPM control And also mask the GPF monitoring. Great videos by the way really helpful narrowing down exhaust rear boxes. 👍
Nice video mate! Wish this was around at the beginning when I was looking! I had (have) one of the first few Spyder’s in the UK and ordered my exhaust within 2 days of picking it up. It needs it, PPF is a killer. Owned the 981 Spyder which was mental and this 100% needs the exhaust upgrade. Once done, it’s the better car in every way (no mean feat - the 981 Spyder is a bloody awesome car - I would love to own one again). I went with a JCR titanium unsilenced, although modified so the valves are always open. Sounds awesome and I love it - beautiful exhaust and such good quality. Tbh they all sound pretty good, all good options but I can 100% recommend JCR
My opinion of the sounds: JCR - awesome! Fabspeed - okay Acrapovic - okay Cargraphic Racing - good Supersprint - no Kline - good BC - okay Soul - good Litch - okay JCR was my favorite by far
Messing with your ECU does not void warranty. If something is denied on warranty claim the warranty provider must prove the change you made to the car was the reason for the issue
Hey! One thing Im a little surprised of, is that many of the manufacturers claimed early that it would probably be an easy fix to bypass the monitored opf-systems and install a 'straight pipe' instead without CEL. However, no one seems to have cracked this as of today?
Great comparison, and I’m glad I found your channel! Looking at your car in another video I’m guessing you’re based in Sweden. Can’t hear though, great english! 👍 Ska själv ta fram min 718 Spyder snart och funderar på att uppgradera systemet.
@@WheelsToys Känns som antingen att bara byta slutburk, eller att göra ”the lot ”: Headers, racekattar, OPF-delete och ljuddämpare. Känns som jag vill att garantin ska löpa ut först hursomhelst... Men kul att sondera marknaden innan dess!
Thanks! I will be back with a video on over axel pipes and one for the street headers. Might need to combine that one with complete systems due to the manufacturers only releasing videos with the full systems at this moment.
I had the soul race but eventually sold it only due to the in cabin drone from 2-3k rpm. My ears felt pressured after driving it was terrible. But above 4k it was amazing. Shame :(. Thanks for the organized video
Anyway to get back the pops and bangs/cracks for a 2024 2.0T with GPF? it seems with no PSE available in Europe and monitored GPF the backfire in Sport Mode does not exist anymore
Which brand and model has the best backfires when accelerating and going through the gears and when downshifting? I found it surprising that the oem gt4 does not make any backfires and burbles at all- ever. My 911 992 in sport mode does make backfires and burbling sounds when downshifting…
Stock none of the GT cars does this except the 981 GT4. 🤷♂️ I guess there is a reason, but I agree, I would love it to have some backfire-sounds. I now run the Cargraphic X-pipe racing and it has some. But i have some over axel pipes with OPF delete and a tune coming. Might allow for some more. :)
I have not had a Fabspeed-exhaust myself but I know they use really good components and that their setups for manufacturing is high end. You will most likely be very happy with one of their exhausts. :)
Any idea on the performance gain claims? I saw a video of someone from the US lost apx. 10 horsepower from JCR titanium exhaust (no ecu tune), dynoed a month a part in similar condition at a professional shop.
I’m based in the U.K. and considering the Kline system (either 100 or 200 cells) - apparently using an OBD to reset the ECU error would not leave any trace in the ECU and hence won’t affect the Porsche warranty - any views? Also, does anybody know if the 100 cell version passes the U.K. MOT? Thanks!
If you are in the UK I would consider JCR or similar. Great systems and no extra import tax. Also, there will be a trace in the ECU if you use the OBD. You will need to access the actual ECU if you want to do it without a trace. But unless you are doing a OPF/GPF delete, you wont have any issues that you need to take care of with a tune. :)
@@WheelsToys great, thanks a lot. So if I understand correctly, unless the OPF is reset / there’s an engine error after installing the 200 cells pipe, I should be good re retaining the warranty? JCR is much more expensive despite them being U.K. based..
BCFab and Kline seem to be the only contenders for sound anyway. May be the way the sound was recorded but Kline was my number one prior to this video and still is but the BCFab sounds great… maybe better than the Kline but the manufacture of the Kline is the top to date and still my number one.
Thank you for the comparison! Theyre lot of options but im looking for no customs exhaust in Europe. I suposse the KLINE. I Will text when i buy. Thank you!
Hi !'many thanks for this very good video. However be careful as the Akrapovic video is with OPF bypass if I read well the 'small letters on the video'. So not very representative of what the muffler alone will bring.
Jcr and soul are the 2 best sounding exhaust for this motor... Also these cars are a decent amount over 100k loaded so most owners aren't worried about warranty wich can be voided if you've been found to have been racing the car wich again most owners are going to do. If you modify the car it's designed to work with the factory exhaust opf and they also under tune the car. These motors are about 500hp in all actuality on 93 not 420. If you're going to modify it its best to have it tuned with the modifications that's where you will see the most benifit you will likley have the same or loose power without tuning doing these mods
Hi Vaccaro! There are plenty of more options than what I listed, but these are the most popular once and the once I think are interesting for different reasons. The Capristo exhaust is of a very simple design similar to many of the others but without offering something extra for the extra price they charge.
Im aware of this and have updated it in socials and the followup video. Cant edit the video once its uploaded. And can't really remove it because of this. Have also talked to JCR about it. But thanks for pointing it out. :)
@@WheelsToys No problem, they make it well know on the forums they refuse to use stainless steel hence why I wanted to make you aware! Thanks for the video.
Thank you for this video! I’m on the hunt for an aftermarket exhaust for my GT4, and hearing the options in a single video is a huge help. Extremely well done.
I realize Im kinda randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to stream newly released movies online?
@Devon Merrick Thanks, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D Appreciate it!
@Joaquin Yehuda You are welcome :D
@@devonmerrick1111 both of your accounts were created 5 months ago ... ***SCAM***
Did you decide back then?
Thank you for talking about our exhaust components! We have a wide range of offerings from headers to tips - and a Valved Exhaust to for those who like control over the valves. -Mike
More than happy to! Your components looks amazing and seems to be of great quality.
@@WheelsToys I heard you reference the 981 sound - which one sounds closest to that sound
Do you have dealers in China？
The full car graphic system is 👌🏻
Running Cargraphic's valve controller and X-Pipe. Very happy!
awesome recap of all the exhausts options
Thanks for the content you help the Porsche 718 enthousiast, enjoyed and appreciated.
Refreshingly accurate and thorough information. Well done. Part two with FVD perhaps???
Please bear in mind that most of these systems add an insane amount of drone.
Do your research on that too.
Thanks, this is exactly what I needed to know.
impatient to know the choice and to hear the result and the comments. Good job👍
Great comparison. I live in Germany and I decided to go for the Cargraphic Racing for my Spyder. I can confirm the Sound is Perfect now. 😎Installation was a little tricky. But finally its a Real Porsche now. The combination of Handling, Design and Sound.
Happy to hear! Looking forward to my setup to be delivered and the car to sound as it should as much as kids waiting for Santa! 🥳
Hey, hast du nur die Racing X Pipe verbaut oder die komplette Cargraphic anlage. Bekommt man damit Tüv und ist es legal in deutschland? Grüße Noah
@@GanstarNoah1899 Nur den Endschalldämpfer mit Original OPF. TÜV? Hab ich noch nicht probiert 🤔
@@xxmagnifico okay :D danke für die antwort! Wie ist der sound im vergleich zur serie? Großer Unterschied?
@@GanstarNoah1899 wie ich oben beschrieben habe. Der Sound ist perfekt. Eine Oktave höher als Serie aber nicht so wie der GT3
Soul and IPE are definately my top two for this engine
+1. Excellent exhaust option/pallet presentation! .. Cargraphic de gets my 2022 Cayman 4.0 business. Cheers, M/S, Vail, Colorado
Thanks Wheels & Toys! Nicely dine.
Great thorough video man! I see why this has so many views.
I have the JCR titanium OPF delete pipes- non silenced. They give a great sound. It's on my channel but I haven't done any severe runs, but you can get a good idea on the short video.
Super usefull! Thanks for the research!
Reference the separate valve control unit what we really need is someone like COBB to support the GTS/GT4/Spyder which will allow us to configure the OEM PSE RPM control
And also mask the GPF monitoring.
Great videos by the way really helpful narrowing down exhaust rear boxes. 👍
This is a very helpful content! Thank you for your nice video.
Nice video mate! Wish this was around at the beginning when I was looking!
I had (have) one of the first few Spyder’s in the UK and ordered my exhaust within 2 days of picking it up. It needs it, PPF is a killer.
Owned the 981 Spyder which was mental and this 100% needs the exhaust upgrade. Once done, it’s the better car in every way (no mean feat - the 981 Spyder is a bloody awesome car - I would love to own one again).
I went with a JCR titanium unsilenced, although modified so the valves are always open. Sounds awesome and I love it - beautiful exhaust and such good quality.
Tbh they all sound pretty good, all good options but I can 100% recommend JCR
man this is amzing ,thank u so much !
Very informative! Well done indeed!
Excellent video super good 👍🏻👍🏻
Car looks so much better.... Really looking into this for my stock boxster!
this is a quality video. thank you!
My opinion of the sounds:
JCR - awesome!
Fabspeed - okay
Acrapovic - okay
Cargraphic Racing - good
Supersprint - no
Kline - good
BC - okay
Soul - good
Litch - okay
JCR was my favorite by far
I think JCR has a problem with droning though
100% agree. JCR sounds fantastic.
soul and JCR and car… sounded best in these examples…agreed
Super thorough highly appreciate it. Probs going cargraphic touring system
Messing with your ECU does not void warranty. If something is denied on warranty claim the warranty provider must prove the change you made to the car was the reason for the issue
Incredible video. Thank you sooooo much for putting this together. 🤗
Superb video.
Hey! One thing Im a little surprised of, is that many of the manufacturers claimed early that it would probably be an easy fix to bypass the monitored opf-systems and install a 'straight pipe' instead without CEL. However, no one seems to have cracked this as of today?
Great comparison, and I’m glad I found your channel! Looking at your car in another video I’m guessing you’re based in Sweden. Can’t hear though, great english! 👍
Ska själv ta fram min 718 Spyder snart och funderar på att uppgradera systemet.
Tack! Och yes jag håller till i Sverige. :) Kul med fler Spyders! Hoppas du hittar ett system som passar! Har du något du kollar extra på?
@@WheelsToys Känns som antingen att bara byta slutburk, eller att göra ”the lot ”: Headers, racekattar, OPF-delete och ljuddämpare. Känns som jag vill att garantin ska löpa ut först hursomhelst... Men kul att sondera marknaden innan dess!
Fantastic tutorial
Excellent video. Can you do a video comparing between different street headers for the GT4/Spyder/GTS 4.0? Thanks
Thanks! I will be back with a video on over axel pipes and one for the street headers. Might need to combine that one with complete systems due to the manufacturers only releasing videos with the full systems at this moment.
Best bang for buck set up: gut out stock gpf filter + cargraphic xpipe racing. :)
Unless you are in Europe. ;) Don't think the ECU will like the readings you get from the sensons unless there are filters in there... :-/
@@WheelsToys yes yes. i live in US =P .
i thinj having it sound more like a gt4 rs or a gt3 even jus a little bit would make people alot more happy.
Let's be honest, they all kinda sound the same. Meaning, they all sound amazing!
Very helpful, even though a 982 4.0 is rather out of reach for me at the moment
perfect info ! thank you
I didn't know Tintin is so into Porsches :)
so which did you install please where is the vid?
I had the soul race but eventually sold it only due to the in cabin drone from 2-3k rpm. My ears felt pressured after driving it was terrible. But above 4k it was amazing. Shame :(. Thanks for the organized video
Anyway to get back the pops and bangs/cracks for a 2024 2.0T with GPF? it seems with no PSE available in Europe and monitored GPF the backfire in Sport Mode does not exist anymore
JCR and Fabspeed sound the best. Soul Performance sound great as well but its too bad they are illegal in Europe
Thanks for the vid! Now im even more confused hahaha!
Wonderful👍
Nice video. What about IPE-Innotech for this engine?
Don't forget the exhaust system from Capristo
Can you do a review on Dundon crack pretzel.
Which brand and model has the best backfires when accelerating and going through the gears and when downshifting? I found it surprising that the oem gt4 does not make any backfires and burbles at all- ever. My 911 992 in sport mode does make backfires and burbling sounds when downshifting…
Stock none of the GT cars does this except the 981 GT4. 🤷♂️ I guess there is a reason, but I agree, I would love it to have some backfire-sounds.
I now run the Cargraphic X-pipe racing and it has some. But i have some over axel pipes with OPF delete and a tune coming. Might allow for some more. :)
It has a straight crankshaft which causes no pops and crackles but increases the performance.
Hey do you think that the Valvetronic exhaust from Fabspeed for the 718(982) is a Good choice?
I have not had a Fabspeed-exhaust myself but I know they use really good components and that their setups for manufacturing is high end. You will most likely be very happy with one of their exhausts. :)
More importantly, which is best at repelling jaguar sharks?
My favorite is Dundon
So happy that i have a 981 S, it screams and have a Backfire from hell💥 Those OPF cars can only dream about it 😅 Its a shame.
so which did you install please where is the vid
Any idea on the performance gain claims? I saw a video of someone from the US lost apx. 10 horsepower from JCR titanium exhaust (no ecu tune), dynoed a month a part in similar condition at a professional shop.
Which one should you get if you mostly want pops, burbles, and bangs (like an F-Type SVR)?
Yes this is how they should come for factory or at least an option!
Do any of these systems advertise their decibel level? Track Days at Laguna Seca are limited to 92db.
Any exhaust mod will take you over that. Lift off a tiny bit just before the sound-booth and you should be fine. :)
Great comparison - have you heard the headers from fabspeed ? Don’t Think these can work in Europe with OPF 🤔 but not sure.....
Our headers will work with European 4.0L cars.
Did you try Schmid Motorsport?
I’m based in the U.K. and considering the Kline system (either 100 or 200 cells) - apparently using an OBD to reset the ECU error would not leave any trace in the ECU and hence won’t affect the Porsche warranty - any views? Also, does anybody know if the 100 cell version passes the U.K. MOT? Thanks!
If you are in the UK I would consider JCR or similar. Great systems and no extra import tax.
Also, there will be a trace in the ECU if you use the OBD. You will need to access the actual ECU if you want to do it without a trace. But unless you are doing a OPF/GPF delete, you wont have any issues that you need to take care of with a tune. :)
@@WheelsToys great, thanks a lot. So if I understand correctly, unless the OPF is reset / there’s an engine error after installing the 200 cells pipe, I should be good re retaining the warranty? JCR is much more expensive despite them being U.K. based..
@@mihaipopescugreaca2337 Hi, did you find out if warranty is still valid?
BCFab and Kline seem to be the only contenders for sound anyway. May be the way the sound was recorded but Kline was my number one prior to this video and still is but the BCFab sounds great… maybe better than the Kline but the manufacture of the Kline is the top to date and still my number one.
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Thank you for the comparison! Theyre lot of options but im looking for no customs exhaust in Europe. I suposse the KLINE. I Will text when i buy. Thank you!
You also have Cargraphic, Supersprint Akrapovic and Supersprint here in Europe. :)
JCR too? UK 21 miles from France - definitely Europe, taxes or not
I am in Mexico, how can I distinguish if my cars exhaust is European or USA?
Also for a ring and pinion any recommendations?
If you have a European car you will see connected sensors on the OPF filters. If you don’t have any connections you have the American car. :)
Dundon has one now its pure evil
Hi !'many thanks for this very good video. However be careful as the Akrapovic video is with OPF bypass if I read well the 'small letters on the video'. So not very representative of what the muffler alone will bring.
Ahh! Thanks for the info! :)
@@WheelsToys sooo what did you choose ? I'm really looking forward at your next video. Great job !
Are any of these going to work for the 718 Cayman S?
Unfortunately these only work for the 4.0 liter 6-cyl engines without turbos. But most of them also offers systems for the 718 S. :)
@@WheelsToys considering the IPE Full System cat-back with downpipes + Stage 2 ECU Tune + Uprated Brakes + Better Tires
Over axle pipe mods in US do not throw codes
Jcr and soul are the 2 best sounding exhaust for this motor... Also these cars are a decent amount over 100k loaded so most owners aren't worried about warranty wich can be voided if you've been found to have been racing the car wich again most owners are going to do. If you modify the car it's designed to work with the factory exhaust opf and they also under tune the car. These motors are about 500hp in all actuality on 93 not 420. If you're going to modify it its best to have it tuned with the modifications that's where you will see the most benifit you will likley have the same or loose power without tuning doing these mods
Wrong , these two produces a lots of drones in cabin ,starting from 2000rpm!
What about Capristo?
Hi Vaccaro! There are plenty of more options than what I listed, but these are the most popular once and the once I think are interesting for different reasons. The Capristo exhaust is of a very simple design similar to many of the others but without offering something extra for the extra price they charge.
How is your opinion on the IPE systems! Any thoughts?
JCR don't do anything in stainless steel, think you need to correct this...
Im aware of this and have updated it in socials and the followup video. Cant edit the video once its uploaded. And can't really remove it because of this. Have also talked to JCR about it. But thanks for pointing it out. :)
@@WheelsToys No problem, they make it well know on the forums they refuse to use stainless steel hence why I wanted to make you aware! Thanks for the video.
OMG
Porsche will cancel your Guarantee immediately if you change ride height, Rims, Exhaust or chip tuning
LOL, no.
Left out Dundon Motorsport.
Dundon are the best
Isn’t Dunedin the MOST expensive system out there? When I checked they were 3 times their competitors.
Spellcheck changed the name: Dundon.
Yeah Dundon or FVD Brombacher
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We can remove the cats and filter boxes in all states, except California. California pretends its Europe, its adorable!