I remember when Jack was so uncomfortable in front of the camera. Now his explanations and delivery are on par with veteran auto-journalists. Both of you are so great on screen!
I love the partnership with Autobahn. A great *responsible* way to show what cars can do. As for this I'm glad it exists.... but I am spooked from tracking cars so give me the instant gratification street machine. Hell even in sim racing I like cars that just let me focus on racing and going fast...
"I just opened my third doggy daycare. My wife is always in the Suburban and I needed something that had a bit a presence." This literally had me laughing out loud! Thanks for continuing to put out such awesome content.
I personally love how clean and simple the Porsche interiors are with buttons for everything. I don't want screens for everything. Tech moves too fast and all those screens are going to look outdated in 5 years
I’ll tell ya, buttons wear too. 05 Boxster S here, 125,000 miles, all the paint on the buttons are worn. My 981 Spyder is the best car I’ve owned. Well, the P85D is better on the interstates.
Think this might be the first savagegeese video I dislike. The 718's interior looks much better than the C8's. Sure, the vent plastic is cheap, okay, but he even admitted himself, the C8 corvette's interior is not going to age well. The 718's will.
@@Random-nf7qb I find it weird that they didn't say anything negative about the interior in the GTS 4.0 review. This video gave off a completely different impression than that one
A lot of it is that you see every major manufacturer improving interior design, quality and features including material design. This car carries a hefty price tag and and feels and looks every bit of 40k. Then you have to pay even more to get real adjustable seats, better materials a basically average audio system. I mean I get the entire Porsche thing, not a value brand etc. But come on.
@@Filipolis it might have to do with the base price being nearly $30k more. I would assume he is judging it with a higher floor of expectations. Just my guess for why Mr. Goose is being a little more harsh
@@savagegeese you get a flat 6 and mid-engine layout. That's the selling point. The interior is not half bad. Looks I'd say 60-70k, about the materials I don't know, but other than the vents, not much wrong with them.
I have a 2023 Spyder. You guys are insane. This is Peak Porsche for the money. It out drives many 911s. Lack of wow factor? What are you smoking? I can’t drive down the road without people taking pictures. I love the buttons and tactical feel of a proper sports car. You can keep your Haptic Touch screens in the Lexus cars.
Really appreciate Jack showing the driving dynamics like lifting at the wrong time in a corner and trail-braking. I will say that cons surrounding the daily-ability of this car are negligible because that's what the GTS 4.0 is for. As always, I appreciate the hard work ya'll do to make these reviews.
Hands down the best car Channel on UA-cam. The cinematography, unbiased honesty, and respect for the machine is unrivaled at any level. Mr.Geese we appreciate you and your team for all that you do, and you easily deserve 10x more subscribers than you have.
Best review of this car. I’m picking up a 2021 model tomorrow and I’ve watched 20 reviews of this car today. By far... and it’s a longshot, this is the best review. Thank you guys!!!
How can someone be disappointed of the interior in a 718 Spyder, when this car is on the market since more than five years? For that reason, of course it's not a totally modern infotainment interior and still has some of older Porsche infotainment stuff, but which is still decent and still works very well. The only thing which counts here is, the 718 Spyder drives like no other sports car in its segment and it's a hardcore open fun car, which you can even use on the race track like a proper Porsche GT vehicle.
Please this is the best looking Porsche at the moment, yes for looks the humps help, 4 liter engine and manual gearbox (a must) what not to like. A drivers car for sure. Performance wise is more than at first side. Yes PDK is the great but for pure joy we all need a manual.
I have to say that when I started watching and Mark was ripping into the interior my back went up but I watched it in its entirety and realized it was one of the most well balanced reviews I’ve seen and it captures the essence of what the 718 Spyder is, one of the best drivers cars ever built. Full disclosure, I own this car (not this exact one but one in a very similar spec). It’s my 3rd Boxster (986 S, 981 GTS, 982 Spyder) and 14th Porsche. I own for two reasons, I believe it is the amalgamation, for me, of every positive trait I’ve experienced in the previous 13 Porsches and every other sports car I’ve ever owned and it’s styling is both timeless and beautiful. I will have other sports cars but I will NEVER sell my 718 Spyder it is that special.
Very critical review which is actually helpful.... Really stands out for it's failure to bow down at the alter of Porsche. Very good observations and comparisons. I love the Spyder and I find the review very helpful.
I have a Spyder. I love the roof. It’s part of the cars engagement. All you reviewers just look for something to gripe about to seem balanced. But you haven’t live with the car and you don’t know what you are talking about. This is the best Porsche for the money. Hands down!
Hmm... I love the interior on the Boxster, with the natural leather espresso/cognac it is amazing. I definitely don't like the new interior on the 992. I find the 18 ways pretty comfortable. I am not a fan of all the cheap alcantra in the Spyder
Its a pleasure to hear both of your guys views on all the vehicles you guys review. This is imo the best car channel. No fluff, just real people offering very good information on cars and trucks. Thanks
@@kevind4061 It's pretty cringe that top gear still uses those very early 2,000s filters and fast editing tricks. It was cool 20 years ago, it's time to stop.
Like technical review. I have this car in Chalk and full black leather and 18 way seats. It’s not pedestrian unlike other brands…that’s the point. I find it special and enjoy it as much as my MX5 and BRZ.
This is one of the top 5 reviews I have been waiting for. This channel is true to its core value. Host, authentic, and understand the regular consumers. Sure, many of the vehicles reviewed may never be in our list of candidates to purchase, but the guys speak our language. Great review as always.
I’m a very blessed Porschephile and own a 911 Cab, 911 Targa, and 991.2 GT3 Touring. However, my 718 Spyder is my favorite car. Better than my 981 which I no longer own but also was great. If I could only keep one it would be the manual Spyder
Love the honest critique. I do wish that proper review channels such as Carfection, Autocar, Smoking Tire (to name just a few), would go into the level of detail as far as interior/mechanical impressions as I can watch here. Well done.
@Stan Marks I don't and why? They all have their strengths in their presentations and I enjoy them separately. Just like I like Geese covering different aspects of a car review. If everyone was the same it would be immensely boring.
I just finished the vid and Savagegeese leaves me with the feeling that I just watched something special. I don't even like Porches but that's not why I watch. Savagegeese reviews like no one else.
Basically, the interior is a well thought out and time-lasting design. The seats aren’t bad but they just aren’t what 10/10th sports bucket seats should be but it’s immensely useable on a daily basis for 9/10th driving. Basically, it’s exactly what a Spyder version of a GT4 should be.
The porsche interior is funny to me. I have a 981 2.7 base cayman. My friend has the 991 GT3RS. Sitting in the cockpit (excluding the seats) they are exactly the same. So I tell myself its "special" because I have a GT3RS interior. lol.
As a starving student, with no money, little food, and living in a VW Rabbit, I told myself one day, after I finish school, I will own a 911 turbo, and drive the PCH from Santa Barbara to Canada. That became reality, simply because I made it happen. It's only unattainable if you make it so.
@@eraab6458 You are correct. I did overstate. I could make it happen but it's just not the right time for me. A belated congrats to you on making that dream happen.
@@billyhughes9776 Here's a helpful life tip. Make it your mission to pay off any debts as soon as you can. Don't pay the minimum. Make huge additional payments on the principal. So, for example, if you have a mortgage, don't actually be in debt for 30 years. Set a goal to pay it off in no more than 10 years. And make sure you put a huge down payment. Like don't put down 20 percent, rent until you can save up and put down at least 40 percent down. I'm in my mid-30's, and I'm debt free. No mortgage, no car payment, etc. I own everything outright. It took a lot of sacrifice. But now I can start having lots of fun. I didn't have to wait till retirement age. Remember, every dollar you pay in interest is a dollar you can't spend on a Porsche. Don't let a rich banker use your money to buy himself a Porsche. Make it your mission in life to pay off any debts as fast as you can.
@@hamsterama Thanks for the info. I'm, um, several years older than you. Was not too responsible with money throughout my 20s but got it together in my early-mid 30s. No CC debt, no car payment, good savings and a manageable mortgage. If I wanted to, sure, I could buy a car like this now but it's just not the right time. But, not sure I'd ever want to shell out 100K+ on a car. So, I did overstate a bit in my original comment. Can I? Yes. Will I,...probably not. Ha -- take care.
@@billyhughes9776 Hahahaha oops sorry! :D I'm not sure why, but I presumed you were a young dude. So....Disregard my comment. LOL! Anyway, I also can't imagine spending over $100,000 on a single car. I'm sure I could technically buy this Porsche if I save up enough over the next few years. But that's a ton of money to spend on a single depreciating item that will likely only be used for a few hours on weekends. And the purchase price is just the beginning. There will also be the massive cost of maintenance, repairs, and insurance. Nope, I'll stick with economy cars.
I can tell when the cars are truly enjoyed by the amount of extra sauce you put on it even during casual conversation. You didn’t laugh as much as the hellcat or other big power cars, but you constantly just changed gears . Copious amounts of RPMs just for the “go” factor. As soon as you did the “let’s get this out on the road and see how it drives” I forgot about the interior all together. Makes me want a GT4. Makes me want to work for my fun. Good video, good car, good content
You don't get a spyder without the upgraded bucket seats. The bucket seats are very comfortable. The interior and spec of your test car was minimal. That was basically a completely base car. A proper spec spyder with extended leather etc is 135k... if your test car was 109k that's effectively a car with 0 options added.
Couldn’t disagree with you over the interior more than I do and I have driven / owned several…and there is one aspect that you must have mentioned / taken into account: this is basically a 981 car (released in 2012…forget the 718 marketing hype) with a minor facelift a few years ago. So it cant compare against a current 992 for example but poor? Far from it: it is still special after all these years which just shows how sound its interior / exterior were when they were first designed.
@@wayward03 we agree to disagree or at least I do: it is not poor neither it is over priced: it simply the best mid engined car of its class anyone can buy and Porsche remains on a class of its own
You DON'T like the interior? Looks fantastic with big analog gauges and plenty of buttons. Guess it feels cheap to touch. I think it looks amazing. And NO screen mounted on the dash, just in the center stack where it belongs. It stands out due to its simplicity. But yes, it's pretty costly for what it is. But how about that six speed manual transmission?
Only channel out there that would whine about a car no one else makes and no other manufacturer can match for the price. This car is made in heavily heavily taxed and regulated Germany and it’s a miracle Porsche could put this much into it at this price point. Honestly all the complaining and it’s a true gem to drive and a fantastic value
I love my Spyder as much as my 991.2. I don’t think my full leather/alcantara interior looks cheap at all. What vents aren’t plastic? I get it red plastic looks a little wierd. My Macan turbo/pp had the full red leather interior. The red plastic looks a little off but the Corvette?? Haha. See what that interior looks like in 5 years compared to the Porsche. Personally, I love putting my top down manually. Takes 18 seconds and 24 to put up. He doesn’t like the seats???!!! Are you for real!!!??? Turned the bud off after listening to him complain for 5 minutes. Dude you’re insane.
I really like seeing your videos on the GT4 and the Spyder because you give me relief, that this is still one of the greatest cars, everyone always says "Oh no, gearing ruins this cars 😖" but you're saying "This has long gears and it's fine because it shares that characteristic with other track cars :) and a lot of those other highly praised cars are just like this :)" and I like that more realistic perspective that both of you have where not everything the internet says is true to you :)
So I recently found your channel and I remember a couple of years ago when I used one of your old web articles as the main source in a 10-page college paper I wrote! It was about how modern sports cars have lost their personalities.
This car is at the end of its lifecycle. And the 982 is almost a 981.2. I’ll be interested to see how they shoehorn their new interior into something as cozy as a Boxster.
@@Meatwad650 Porsche never has a "revolution" in their models. They are always evolutionary!! That is why they hold their value. Look at Mercedes....they change it up every 3-4 years. And guess what....their reasle value suffers because the latest cars oboless the previous ones. It is why the 911 has held value over time.
@@flyjbaker You miss the point. The 718 shares an interior with the 991.2. Most of the parts are identical. But now the 992 has had a big interior upgrade. Compare the 992 to the 991.2 and you’ll see what I mean. So obviously the next big refresh for the 718 will hopefully bring PCM 5 to the Cayman/Boxster and I’m curious what that will look like.
Do you think you might be getting a bit jaded? Most of us dream about getting a chance to thrash a beauty like this 718. Your critique of the interior came across to me as a tad nit-picky. I'd love to wring 8,000 rpm out of a Porsche on a country road. Alas I have only a 20-year old NB MX-5 but the car still puts a smile on my face. Thanks for all you do. I never miss a video.
I enjoy your reviews very much. I happen to like this interior quite a bit and I believe it will age better than most sports car interiors out there. Regarding the “long” gear ratio, my conclusion is that that is a byproduct of having a very high RPM range. When we used to drive sports cars in manual gear, remember, those cars used to have 6800 RPMs and we drove them between 4500 & 6500. So naturally, it required more shifting back and forth btwn 2nd & 3rd gear. Of course, one can argue that the overall gearing can be lowered. But if they did that, under normal driving, we would be forced to shift up from 1st to 2nd way too quickly and it would be unbearable to drive the car under normal conditions. Even in generally spirited driving, the shifting happens btwn 5000 & 6000 and rarely need to get past 7000. No one who owns these cars and wants to keep them will wring it out every time they get in. The car is very lively and powerful enough to get in and out of the bends as fast as one would want on the road. I have no issue with the gearing and I am convinced Porsche knew what they are doing when they set up these cars for the consumers. In conclusion, nostalgia over manual shifting is great but I have come to accept that such was great for the cars of the bygone era. New cars like these are too advanced for manual shifting to make sense. That said, I do enjoy the manual shifting on this car immensely and I don’t have to run it at full throat to enjoy it. We just can’t expect cars that get 8000, 9000 RPM to shift like those old cars with 6800 RPMs.
Nice review, looked like a blast on track. Porsche Spyders are fantastic cars. I have a 981 Spyder and it’s such an entertaining car, every drive feels special. The 987s are amazing too. The purity to performance scale representing where generation sits is spot on. Each generation of Spyder has their own flavor and there’s something for everyone. Did you put 718 on the scales and if so, what did it weigh? I didn’t see the graphic during the Shoppe segment.
The thing that drives me nuts is that the engine sounds so good at high rpm, buy the gearing makes it hard to get there if you're driving on back roads. The joy of this car should be the 2-3-4 shifts, and the gearing is just too tall.
You have to be kidding the C8 corvette's interior was nasty!! There is no comparison. Like some kid had designed it! The interior of the Porsche is classy and timeless and beautiful. It just feels solid and right. An American's view of the world!!?
"Few Driver's Cars Left" that statement is exactly why all enthusiasts need to save up as much as they can for their desired car, as they won't be around in 10 years. Especially if you want a manual transmission.
They will be gone in significantly less than 10 years (the Biden administration is introducing new emission standards in the next few days): "The increased standards will be paired with an executive order stating a goal of making half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 emissions-free and a pledge from the Detroit automakers that they will aim to sell at least 40% electric vehicles annually by 2030. Company leaders will join Biden at the White House on Thursday afternoon to announce the sales targets." I do not think I am exaggerating by stating that it is the goal of this administration to drive vehicles like the Boxster Spyder completely off the public highways....never to return.
Interesting you’re are contradicting yourself as in other 718 review your thoughts on the interior were vastly different. It the same interior across the platform why the change? Let’s see if your driving thoughts are different than the gts 4.0.
At $60k (base price for the 718) the interior is very good. At $98k (starting price for the 718 Spyder) the interior is not so good. I understand that you're not buying the Spyder for interior comfort so I'm not knocking that, but I would expect an interior to feel either supremely comfortable or unique at this price point.
Great video. The 718 sounds good but the 981 Spyder sounds GREAT. If I were to guess, I suspect the 981 will be the more sought after car in the future. That’s why I am on the hunt for one currently! And a PDK doesn’t belong in a Spyder IMO.
I’ve had both, the 718 Spyder even with over axle pipes (a very common and relatively easy mod) still doesn’t sound as good as my 981 Spyder but it’s close enough. Because Porsche collectors are into exclusivity I suppose the fact that the 981 Spyder was only sold for one model year May help it in the future but as far as a drivers car the 718 Spyder buries the 981. The suspension is such much more focused, the steering has much more feel, the structure is the most granite like I’ve experienced in any open topped car that isn’t a Mclaren, and best of all it actually somehow rides even better than the 981 did. I also happen to think it looks far better with its GT4 bulldog stance but that’s just my opinion, the difference in driving between the two cars is vast
The thing is,the sort of folks who are gonna buy this don't care about the fact that a Mustang GT could possibly take them on a set of traffic lights. They just want a car that is the benchmark for every other performance product out there.
@@bcc5701 I don't have experience with it myself but I've heard that because of the wind going over the windshield you kind of get a air barrier that blows the rain away before it falls into the cabin. At least, at highway speeds.
@@BOTYgaming he meant you'd get wet while stopping to put the top up because of it taking roughly 60 seconds. But if you were running around you could maybe do it in 30. You're still getting wet haha
@Nomen Clature no they shouldn’t, they have a long wait list for a reason. The buyers don’t care and resale value is over sticker on these. I think Porsche knows what they are doing.
While I like both, the StraightPipes you're mocking have significantly more casual watchability. Savagegeese is just much more of an attentive commitment - and that's worse for gathering massive clouds of subscribers in this day and age.
"Is there a reason why The StraightGimmicks have more subs?" -- For the same reason that channels where someone plays video games have millions of subs.
Good review, and thanks for putting the gear length in the proper context, with relevant comparisons. Hardly anyone else does that. Too much shallow, generic hand wringing
as with my s2000- a driver's car- this is the one car I'd replace it with...if the lottery win came in. manual fun in the sun! I'd fire it around the slalom course all day long. thanks for the review.
Great video! You guys set a very high standard. Couldn't help but giggle at "makes peak power at the very top of its power band" in the final thoughts section though 🤭
This channel has been complaining about piano black, too many screens and capacitive buttons for years. Here's a car that gives a pure, open-top driving experience with a manual transmission in a way probably no other new car can or will again, with none of those other issues. It's even somewhat lightweight and track-capable out of the box. The red interior is not to my taste, but black with brushed aluminum, dark aluminum or carbon fiber looks much better (Al is free a option btw). On top of it, CXX means the choices are basically unlimited. Yes, it's expensive, but it's the halo trim of an already expensive car.
I have the same colour combination which I love. What do I dislike, the manual roof. If I could do it over again I would get the 718 GTS which wasn't available when I ordered mine. Great review men!
I have owned 17 Porsches & 9 Corvettes. You have to compare generation against the same generation. I have the 18-way seats in my 911 Turbo and they are the best seat I have ever driven in. Absolutely great for daily driving and provide all the required support while on the track. This is why I am getting the 18-way seats in my coming SPYDER. I have tracked most every car out there. The 18-way seats are at the are awesome. Great for long drives or auto-club/track. I like them better than the C8, M4, & C63 AMG, etc.
I am under the impression that, this 718 it’s a rental. The key chain, Florida plate whith out the frame, and the fast track device under rear view mirror. Doesn’t matter what car you guys review, still the most entertaining and explicit content available. Enjoy your success, gentleman’s ! 🥂
I remember when Jack was so uncomfortable in front of the camera. Now his explanations and delivery are on par with veteran auto-journalists. Both of you are so great on screen!
I love the partnership with Autobahn. A great *responsible* way to show what cars can do. As for this I'm glad it exists.... but I am spooked from tracking cars so give me the instant gratification street machine. Hell even in sim racing I like cars that just let me focus on racing and going fast...
True! Cheers to teaming up with Autobahn to really give us the full picture. Bravo
Nothing wrong with doing 90 in a 45 and pulling 1.5 G's around corners next to a school zone with construction chill
Seriously, geese is like top gear level now with their own test track and shit!
Dey were better on da streetz
Funny enough I skip this part always now as I can’t related in any way
"I just opened my third doggy daycare. My wife is always in the Suburban and I needed something that had a bit a presence." This literally had me laughing out loud! Thanks for continuing to put out such awesome content.
doggy day care owners really be making bank as everyone starts traveling again
@@CarsMeetsBikes
Ppl live longer, society gets older.
Some countries in Europe even have health care :P
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people love their dogs... just not more than they love their pointless social lives.
I personally love how clean and simple the Porsche interiors are with buttons for everything. I don't want screens for everything. Tech moves too fast and all those screens are going to look outdated in 5 years
Buttons are great, but older Porsches just puts them in random lines that don't mean anything. The newer Porsches do it better.
I don’t like their minimalistic interiors. They feel cold and distant like a hotel bathroom.
I’ll tell ya, buttons wear too. 05 Boxster S here, 125,000 miles, all the paint on the buttons are worn. My 981 Spyder is the best car I’ve owned. Well, the P85D is better on the interstates.
Never thought I'd see the day when a Corvette interior was being used as an example of what a quality interior should be.
Think this might be the first savagegeese video I dislike.
The 718's interior looks much better than the C8's. Sure, the vent plastic is cheap, okay, but he even admitted himself, the C8 corvette's interior is not going to age well.
The 718's will.
@@Random-nf7qb I find it weird that they didn't say anything negative about the interior in the GTS 4.0 review. This video gave off a completely different impression than that one
A lot of it is that you see every major manufacturer improving interior design, quality and features including material design. This car carries a hefty price tag and and feels and looks every bit of 40k. Then you have to pay even more to get real adjustable seats, better materials a basically average audio system. I mean I get the entire Porsche thing, not a value brand etc. But come on.
@@Filipolis it might have to do with the base price being nearly $30k more. I would assume he is judging it with a higher floor of expectations. Just my guess for why Mr. Goose is being a little more harsh
@@savagegeese you get a flat 6 and mid-engine layout. That's the selling point.
The interior is not half bad.
Looks I'd say 60-70k, about the materials I don't know, but other than the vents, not much wrong with them.
I have a 2023 Spyder. You guys are insane. This is Peak Porsche for the money. It out drives many 911s.
Lack of wow factor? What are you smoking? I can’t drive down the road without people taking pictures.
I love the buttons and tactical feel of a proper sports car. You can keep your Haptic Touch screens in the Lexus cars.
Really appreciate Jack showing the driving dynamics like lifting at the wrong time in a corner and trail-braking.
I will say that cons surrounding the daily-ability of this car are negligible because that's what the GTS 4.0 is for.
As always, I appreciate the hard work ya'll do to make these reviews.
It's such a bad editing decision to switch to rearwards view during that, though. I saw nothing.
The GTS 4.0 is the sex.
@@Dowlphin that's cause he was "trailbraking" lol yeah same, glad someone noticed it too
@@Dowlphin Are you actually a bronie or is the pic an ironic joke?
@@iHaveTheDocuments Why would it be an ironic joke?
The 718 Spyder and GT4 is truly something special truly a driver's car
Its crazy that cars are so nice now a days, that he can look at this incredible interior and be disappointed.
Hands down the best car Channel on UA-cam. The cinematography, unbiased honesty, and respect for the machine is unrivaled at any level. Mr.Geese we appreciate you and your team for all that you do, and you easily deserve 10x more subscribers than you have.
I think this is one of the best looking convertibles with the top up...can’t think of anything better looking.
Picked one up May 2022….the 718 Spyder is such a beast….one of a kind
Best review of this car. I’m picking up a 2021 model tomorrow and I’ve watched 20 reviews of this car today. By far... and it’s a longshot, this is the best review. Thank you guys!!!
I'm not a fan of convertibles, or even sunroofs. But I love the look of all the 718s. Just gorgeous cars. And solid performers.
Always worth spending some time driving a convertible if you haven’t
His face at 10:50 says it all.
I PDK'd so hard I needed an extra microfiber towel.
I thought the same thing!!!
How can someone be disappointed of the interior in a 718 Spyder, when this car is on the market since more than five years? For that reason, of course it's not a totally modern infotainment interior and still has some of older Porsche infotainment stuff, but which is still decent and still works very well.
The only thing which counts here is, the 718 Spyder drives like no other sports car in its segment and it's a hardcore open fun car, which you can even use on the race track like a proper Porsche GT vehicle.
Please this is the best looking Porsche at the moment, yes for looks the humps help, 4 liter engine and manual gearbox (a must) what not to like. A drivers car for sure. Performance wise is more than at first side. Yes PDK is the great but for pure joy we all need a manual.
All I can say Mark is 'Thank you' for the honest review!!!
I have to say that when I started watching and Mark was ripping into the interior my back went up but I watched it in its entirety and realized it was one of the most well balanced reviews I’ve seen and it captures the essence of what the 718 Spyder is, one of the best drivers cars ever built.
Full disclosure, I own this car (not this exact one but one in a very similar spec). It’s my 3rd Boxster (986 S, 981 GTS, 982 Spyder) and 14th Porsche. I own for two reasons, I believe it is the amalgamation, for me, of every positive trait I’ve experienced in the previous 13 Porsches and every other sports car I’ve ever owned and it’s styling is both timeless and beautiful. I will have other sports cars but I will NEVER sell my 718 Spyder it is that special.
Porsche is the only car maker without a dud in its lineup.
Mazda
@@mehdimohamed6291 😆
Al jokes aside, Genesis too
McLaren
Cayman Boxter always been slow sellers
Very critical review which is actually helpful.... Really stands out for it's failure to bow down at the alter of Porsche. Very good observations and comparisons. I love the Spyder and I find the review very helpful.
I have a Spyder. I love the roof. It’s part of the cars engagement. All you reviewers just look for something to gripe about to seem balanced. But you haven’t live with the car and you don’t know what you are talking about.
This is the best Porsche for the money. Hands down!
I love the look and presence of this. It gives of 918 Spyder vibes in a smaller body style and ofc Cabriolet. It's so cool 😎
I started my day as usual with a cup of coffee, some breakfast, and another car I can't afford in the video, nice
Hmm... I love the interior on the Boxster, with the natural leather espresso/cognac it is amazing. I definitely don't like the new interior on the 992. I find the 18 ways pretty comfortable. I am not a fan of all the cheap alcantra in the Spyder
Its a pleasure to hear both of your guys views on all the vehicles you guys review. This is imo the best car channel. No fluff, just real people offering very good information on cars and trucks. Thanks
The interior is classy, refined and beautiful. It is not intended to be flashy and gimmicky like the vette
How is it that you guys are the only ones doing actually informative videos well.
Right?! Savagegeese outclasses and makes Top Gear look like a billionaire student film project.
@@kevind4061 It's pretty cringe that top gear still uses those very early 2,000s filters and fast editing tricks. It was cool 20 years ago, it's time to stop.
Like technical review. I have this car in Chalk and full black leather and 18 way seats. It’s not pedestrian unlike other brands…that’s the point. I find it special and enjoy it as much as my MX5 and BRZ.
This interior is going to age better than just about anything else out there right now
Exactly. I have one. LOVE THE BUTTONS!
This is one of the top 5 reviews I have been waiting for.
This channel is true to its core value.
Host, authentic, and understand the regular consumers.
Sure, many of the vehicles reviewed may never be in our list of candidates to purchase, but the guys speak our language.
Great review as always.
This is absolutely a bad ass car. I just ordered a 2022 911 and almost switched the order to this car. Not many cars equal this one on style.
I’m a very blessed Porschephile and own a 911 Cab, 911 Targa, and 991.2 GT3 Touring. However, my 718 Spyder is my favorite car. Better than my 981 which I no longer own but also was great. If I could only keep one it would be the manual Spyder
And there you have it friends!!!!
Love the honest critique.
I do wish that proper review channels such as Carfection, Autocar, Smoking Tire (to name just a few), would go into the level of detail as far as interior/mechanical impressions as I can watch here.
Well done.
Everybody has their thing I guess. Each of those channels produce good content in their own way
You and I agree and value the goose’s attention to detail however those channels have 1m+ subs so the general yt community gives 0 technical fugs.
@Stan Marks I don't and why? They all have their strengths in their presentations and I enjoy them separately. Just like I like Geese covering different aspects of a car review. If everyone was the same it would be immensely boring.
I just finished the vid and Savagegeese leaves me with the feeling that I just watched something special. I don't even like Porches but that's not why I watch. Savagegeese reviews like no one else.
10/10 opening line
Alfa Romeo 4C owner here! That interior looks like royalty compared to my car! P.S. just trying to make savagegeese laugh :)
Basically, the interior is a well thought out and time-lasting design. The seats aren’t bad but they just aren’t what 10/10th sports bucket seats should be but it’s immensely useable on a daily basis for 9/10th driving.
Basically, it’s exactly what a Spyder version of a GT4 should be.
Congrats on the 500k =)
I never thought the interior was bad. I like its simplicity, the LWBS etc... It's a GREAT sports car!
Really appreciate the street and track reviews separately. Also makes me giddy to see you doing another Porsche review!
I love these no nonsense Porsche interiors, the 718 sounds perfect apart form the cheap plastic
The porsche interior is funny to me. I have a 981 2.7 base cayman. My friend has the 991 GT3RS. Sitting in the cockpit (excluding the seats) they are exactly the same. So I tell myself its "special" because I have a GT3RS interior. lol.
I love everything about this car, but it will remain a dream. Great review! Congrats on 500k subs -- much deserved.
As a starving student, with no money, little food, and living in a VW Rabbit, I told myself one day, after I finish school, I will own a 911 turbo, and drive the PCH from Santa Barbara to Canada. That became reality, simply because I made it happen. It's only unattainable if you make it so.
@@eraab6458 You are correct. I did overstate. I could make it happen but it's just not the right time for me. A belated congrats to you on making that dream happen.
@@billyhughes9776 Here's a helpful life tip. Make it your mission to pay off any debts as soon as you can. Don't pay the minimum. Make huge additional payments on the principal. So, for example, if you have a mortgage, don't actually be in debt for 30 years. Set a goal to pay it off in no more than 10 years. And make sure you put a huge down payment. Like don't put down 20 percent, rent until you can save up and put down at least 40 percent down. I'm in my mid-30's, and I'm debt free. No mortgage, no car payment, etc. I own everything outright. It took a lot of sacrifice. But now I can start having lots of fun. I didn't have to wait till retirement age. Remember, every dollar you pay in interest is a dollar you can't spend on a Porsche. Don't let a rich banker use your money to buy himself a Porsche. Make it your mission in life to pay off any debts as fast as you can.
@@hamsterama Thanks for the info. I'm, um, several years older than you. Was not too responsible with money throughout my 20s but got it together in my early-mid 30s. No CC debt, no car payment, good savings and a manageable mortgage. If I wanted to, sure, I could buy a car like this now but it's just not the right time. But, not sure I'd ever want to shell out 100K+ on a car. So, I did overstate a bit in my original comment. Can I? Yes. Will I,...probably not. Ha -- take care.
@@billyhughes9776 Hahahaha oops sorry! :D I'm not sure why, but I presumed you were a young dude. So....Disregard my comment. LOL! Anyway, I also can't imagine spending over $100,000 on a single car. I'm sure I could technically buy this Porsche if I save up enough over the next few years. But that's a ton of money to spend on a single depreciating item that will likely only be used for a few hours on weekends. And the purchase price is just the beginning. There will also be the massive cost of maintenance, repairs, and insurance. Nope, I'll stick with economy cars.
I can’t believe you guys aren’t over a million subscribers yet, really amazing content and love the honest and genuine takes on all of these cars
I can tell when the cars are truly enjoyed by the amount of extra sauce you put on it even during casual conversation. You didn’t laugh as much as the hellcat or other big power cars, but you constantly just changed gears . Copious amounts of RPMs just for the “go” factor.
As soon as you did the “let’s get this out on the road and see how it drives” I forgot about the interior all together.
Makes me want a GT4. Makes me want to work for my fun.
Good video, good car, good content
You two are very very good with these vehicle reviews, absolutely spot on.
All the downsides to this car sound like the reasons I love my AP1 S2000. You have to work for it.
You don't get a spyder without the upgraded bucket seats. The bucket seats are very comfortable.
The interior and spec of your test car was minimal. That was basically a completely base car. A proper spec spyder with extended leather etc is 135k... if your test car was 109k that's effectively a car with 0 options added.
As always guys, solid content no matter the car. Great work and great editing.
Couldn’t disagree with you over the interior more than I do and I have driven / owned several…and there is one aspect that you must have mentioned / taken into account: this is basically a 981 car (released in 2012…forget the 718 marketing hype) with a minor facelift a few years ago. So it cant compare against a current 992 for example but poor? Far from it: it is still special after all these years which just shows how sound its interior / exterior were when they were first designed.
He has no clue!
@@Perriermaster9 indeed!
Having the car actually be 9 years old is not an excuse especially for that price....
@@wayward03 we agree to disagree or at least I do: it is not poor neither it is over priced: it simply the best mid engined car of its class anyone can buy and Porsche remains on a class of its own
@@wayward03 And exactly how is this car 9 years old? Do you not know how to subtract? My 2016 Spyder is not 9 years old either, just sayin’.
haven't been in the newest generation of these cars but the previous gen cayman gt4 left my jaw on the floor, just an epic car
You DON'T like the interior? Looks fantastic with big analog gauges and plenty of buttons. Guess it feels cheap to touch. I think it looks amazing. And NO screen mounted on the dash, just in the center stack where it belongs. It stands out due to its simplicity. But yes, it's pretty costly for what it is. But how about that six speed manual transmission?
There is a screen in the gauge cluster, it's the small pod to the right of the tach.
@@AnalogDave Didn't even notice it. Thanks for pointing it out.
Only channel out there that would whine about a car no one else makes and no other manufacturer can match for the price. This car is made in heavily heavily taxed and regulated Germany and it’s a miracle Porsche could put this much into it at this price point.
Honestly all the complaining and it’s a true gem to drive and a fantastic value
King of car montages. Get him a crown.
How did the car handle in Cornfield Corner and whats the final Savagegeese score (including the weekend category)?
I love my Spyder as much as my 991.2. I don’t think my full leather/alcantara interior looks cheap at all. What vents aren’t plastic? I get it red plastic looks a little wierd. My Macan turbo/pp had the full red leather interior. The red plastic looks a little off but the Corvette?? Haha. See what that interior looks like in 5 years compared to the Porsche. Personally, I love putting my top down manually. Takes 18 seconds and 24 to put up. He doesn’t like the seats???!!! Are you for real!!!??? Turned the bud off after listening to him complain for 5 minutes. Dude you’re insane.
Great review. Nice Doug impression at 2:56 lol
I really like seeing your videos on the GT4 and the Spyder because you give me relief, that this is still one of the greatest cars, everyone always says "Oh no, gearing ruins this cars 😖" but you're saying "This has long gears and it's fine because it shares that characteristic with other track cars :) and a lot of those other highly praised cars are just like this :)" and I like that more realistic perspective that both of you have where not everything the internet says is true to you :)
So I recently found your channel and I remember a couple of years ago when I used one of your old web articles as the main source in a 10-page college paper I wrote! It was about how modern sports cars have lost their personalities.
I agree it is due for an interior update, but corvette will never have the fit and finish of a Porsche. Love the channel though!
It takes 8 hours to build a C8 Corvette. It takes 8 days to build a Spyder!!!
This car is at the end of its lifecycle. And the 982 is almost a 981.2. I’ll be interested to see how they shoehorn their new interior into something as cozy as a Boxster.
@@Meatwad650 Porsche never has a "revolution" in their models. They are always evolutionary!! That is why they hold their value. Look at Mercedes....they change it up every 3-4 years. And guess what....their reasle value suffers because the latest cars oboless the previous ones. It is why the 911 has held value over time.
@@flyjbaker You miss the point. The 718 shares an interior with the 991.2. Most of the parts are identical. But now the 992 has had a big interior upgrade. Compare the 992 to the 991.2 and you’ll see what I mean. So obviously the next big refresh for the 718 will hopefully bring PCM 5 to the Cayman/Boxster and I’m curious what that will look like.
The way the PDK dumps the clutch at 6500rpm just gets me going
THE BEST CAR REVIEWS with the most detail. A little to biased and picky in your tastes but great job, keep them coming! I enjoy every review.
I would take this car over a base 911 any day of the week!
Do you think you might be getting a bit jaded? Most of us dream about getting a chance to thrash a beauty like this 718. Your critique of the interior came across to me as a tad nit-picky. I'd love to wring 8,000 rpm out of a Porsche on a country road. Alas I have only a 20-year old NB MX-5 but the car still puts a smile on my face. Thanks for all you do. I never miss a video.
Great video! Would love to see a cayman generational comparison video in the future.
I love that red/black interior !
I enjoy your reviews very much. I happen to like this interior quite a bit and I believe it will age better than most sports car interiors out there. Regarding the “long” gear ratio, my conclusion is that that is a byproduct of having a very high RPM range. When we used to drive sports cars in manual gear, remember, those cars used to have 6800 RPMs and we drove them between 4500 & 6500. So naturally, it required more shifting back and forth btwn 2nd & 3rd gear. Of course, one can argue that the overall gearing can be lowered. But if they did that, under normal driving, we would be forced to shift up from 1st to 2nd way too quickly and it would be unbearable to drive the car under normal conditions. Even in generally spirited driving, the shifting happens btwn 5000 & 6000 and rarely need to get past 7000. No one who owns these cars and wants to keep them will wring it out every time they get in. The car is very lively and powerful enough to get in and out of the bends as fast as one would want on the road. I have no issue with the gearing and I am convinced Porsche knew what they are doing when they set up these cars for the consumers. In conclusion, nostalgia over manual shifting is great but I have come to accept that such was great for the cars of the bygone era. New cars like these are too advanced for manual shifting to make sense. That said, I do enjoy the manual shifting on this car immensely and I don’t have to run it at full throat to enjoy it. We just can’t expect cars that get 8000, 9000 RPM to shift like those old cars with 6800 RPMs.
Love Mark’s hat. Big fan of SC here. Great video, too!!
Nice review, looked like a blast on track. Porsche Spyders are fantastic cars. I have a 981 Spyder and it’s such an entertaining car, every drive feels special. The 987s are amazing too. The purity to performance scale representing where generation sits is spot on. Each generation of Spyder has their own flavor and there’s something for everyone.
Did you put 718 on the scales and if so, what did it weigh? I didn’t see the graphic during the Shoppe segment.
Test driving one tomorrow, excited! Nice review!
I have a 2023 Spyder. Peak Porsche. Puts smiles on my face every time. Just buy it!
@@kennethherskind2250 Buying my Spyder today….OMG!
@@robertgregory1927you like it? I still can’t get enough of mine…..
@@kennethherskind2250 Took delivery of my Spyder in June and it’s amazing, drive it everyday even if it’s a short spin!
The thing that drives me nuts is that the engine sounds so good at high rpm, buy the gearing makes it hard to get there if you're driving on back roads. The joy of this car should be the 2-3-4 shifts, and the gearing is just too tall.
You have to be kidding the C8 corvette's interior was nasty!! There is no comparison. Like some kid had designed it! The interior of the Porsche is classy and timeless and beautiful. It just feels solid and right. An American's view of the world!!?
The aesthetics of the Autobahn opening sequence is just pure pleasure. As is the driving, I gather.
"Few Driver's Cars Left" that statement is exactly why all enthusiasts need to save up as much as they can for their desired car, as they won't be around in 10 years. Especially if you want a manual transmission.
Amen brutha!!!
They will be gone in significantly less than 10 years (the Biden administration is introducing new emission standards in the next few days): "The increased standards will be paired with an executive order stating a goal of making half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 emissions-free and a pledge from the Detroit automakers that they will aim to sell at least 40% electric vehicles annually by 2030. Company leaders will join Biden at the White House on Thursday afternoon to announce the sales targets." I do not think I am exaggerating by stating that it is the goal of this administration to drive vehicles like the Boxster Spyder completely off the public highways....never to return.
@@1PorscheCaymanS Yeah, even before he announced anything I already expected this shift to happen.
I don't really care for or about sports cars. But your reviews make me care a lot more. You guys create compelling content.
Man I remember when Boxters started at $60-$70k There really are amazing drivers cars though
They still start in the 60s
So you're paying at least over 50k from the standard boxter, almost double the base price ??! Ludicrous!
@@TheRaysDoc Thats how it works with 911s, too. Twice the base price and you're in the ballpark.
Interesting you’re are contradicting yourself as in other 718 review your thoughts on the interior were vastly different. It the same interior across the platform why the change? Let’s see if your driving thoughts are different than the gts 4.0.
Glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that! This review also felt quite shallow compared to the other ones
At $60k (base price for the 718) the interior is very good. At $98k (starting price for the 718 Spyder) the interior is not so good. I understand that you're not buying the Spyder for interior comfort so I'm not knocking that, but I would expect an interior to feel either supremely comfortable or unique at this price point.
Great video. The 718 sounds good but the 981 Spyder sounds GREAT. If I were to guess, I suspect the 981 will be the more sought after car in the future. That’s why I am on the hunt for one currently! And a PDK doesn’t belong in a Spyder IMO.
I’ve had both, the 718 Spyder even with over axle pipes (a very common and relatively easy mod) still doesn’t sound as good as my 981 Spyder but it’s close enough. Because Porsche collectors are into exclusivity I suppose the fact that the 981 Spyder was only sold for one model year May help it in the future but as far as a drivers car the 718 Spyder buries the 981. The suspension is such much more focused, the steering has much more feel, the structure is the most granite like I’ve experienced in any open topped car that isn’t a Mclaren, and best of all it actually somehow rides even better than the 981 did. I also happen to think it looks far better with its GT4 bulldog stance but that’s just my opinion, the difference in driving between the two cars is vast
I got that sypder classic interior package, all quality leather, 18 way adjustments, I and people like it.
Brandy - You're a Fine Girl on the stereo. priceless
The thing is,the sort of folks who are gonna buy this don't care about the fact that a Mustang GT could possibly take them on a set of traffic lights. They just want a car that is the benchmark for every other performance product out there.
The wow factor is the spyder top and bubble humps plus it has the old 991 interior with all the buttons and analog dials
Videos like this always get me in the mood to drive.
I just ordered a Caymen GTS 4.0... I'm psyched.. great video.. b
"Top operation is not going to take you 20 seconds" - while Jack literally takes less than 20 seconds to operate the top.
Also your on the highway and it’s starts to rain- your getting soaked.
@@bcc5701 *you're
@@bcc5701 I don't have experience with it myself but I've heard that because of the wind going over the windshield you kind of get a air barrier that blows the rain away before it falls into the cabin. At least, at highway speeds.
@@BOTYgaming he meant you'd get wet while stopping to put the top up because of it taking roughly 60 seconds. But if you were running around you could maybe do it in 30. You're still getting wet haha
@Nomen Clature no they shouldn’t, they have a long wait list for a reason. The buyers don’t care and resale value is over sticker on these. I think Porsche knows what they are doing.
Is there a reason why The StraightGimmicks have more subs? Your stuff is gold, and their stuff is generic and gimmicky…
While I like both, the StraightPipes you're mocking have significantly more casual watchability. Savagegeese is just much more of an attentive commitment - and that's worse for gathering massive clouds of subscribers in this day and age.
Kids. Adults.
"Is there a reason why The StraightGimmicks have more subs?" -- For the same reason that channels where someone plays video games have millions of subs.
Good review, and thanks for putting the gear length in the proper context, with relevant comparisons. Hardly anyone else does that. Too much shallow, generic hand wringing
as with my s2000- a driver's car- this is the one car I'd replace it with...if the lottery win came in. manual fun in the sun! I'd fire it around the slalom course all day long. thanks for the review.
Great video! You guys set a very high standard. Couldn't help but giggle at "makes peak power at the very top of its power band" in the final thoughts section though 🤭
It sounds fantastic. Normally I would go for the 911, but the Spyder has my attention.
You better hurry. They are not easy to acquire!!!
Thank you for answering my #1 question for all convertibles, "NO COWL SHAKE".
What a beautiful car. God, I want one
I was just behind one yesterday in Newport RI - and now this. LOVE it.
If you see a Spyder for the first time....you will never forget it!!!
Best car reviews on UA-cam.
This channel has been complaining about piano black, too many screens and capacitive buttons for years. Here's a car that gives a pure, open-top driving experience with a manual transmission in a way probably no other new car can or will again, with none of those other issues. It's even somewhat lightweight and track-capable out of the box. The red interior is not to my taste, but black with brushed aluminum, dark aluminum or carbon fiber looks much better (Al is free a option btw). On top of it, CXX means the choices are basically unlimited. Yes, it's expensive, but it's the halo trim of an already expensive car.
I have the same colour combination which I love. What do I dislike, the manual roof. If I could do it over again I would get the 718 GTS which wasn't available when I ordered mine. Great review men!
Love the opening roll play
Do not get the base seats and complain about adjustability. Get the 18-way option and magically they are better.
Yup. Had one of those in myGT4
I have owned 17 Porsches & 9 Corvettes. You have to compare generation against the same generation. I have the 18-way seats in my 911 Turbo and they are the best seat I have ever driven in. Absolutely great for daily driving and provide all the required support while on the track. This is why I am getting the 18-way seats in my coming SPYDER. I have tracked most every car out there. The 18-way seats are at the are awesome. Great for long drives or auto-club/track. I like them better than the C8, M4, & C63 AMG, etc.
I am under the impression that, this 718 it’s a rental. The key chain, Florida plate whith out the frame, and the fast track device under rear view mirror. Doesn’t matter what car you guys review, still the most entertaining and explicit content available. Enjoy your success, gentleman’s ! 🥂