I'm the proud owner of an immaculate low mileage '94 Z28. After drooling over these 4th gen Z's I finally have one....... the best Camaro I have ever owned in my 35 years of driving. White full load with T-tops..... love it.
I've had a 95Z28 and an 89 IROC personally I liked the IROC more it handled quite a bit better than the 95 did but the 95 had more power, I have a 92 corvette now and I'll probably never buy another camaro after owning this!
Very impressive showing from the LT4 especially when the LT1 would be lucky to pull off a mid 13 in stock form. LT4 was very comparable to the late LS1 in power. Source: I had a 95 Z28 that only managed 14.1 @ 97mph stock while my 01 Z28 did 13.1 @ 108 stock.
@@S8ER Were both autos/manuals? And what were the rear end gears? (2.73? 3.42? Etc.). Just curious. I figure they were both M6 with those times. I had my share of LS1’s and an LS6
@@dr.lyleevans6915 I was speaking of M6/3.42 cars specifically. I owned 2 different LT1 Z28 Automatics (2.73 and a 3.23 geared) both were 14.1-14.2 @ 97-99mph at best stock. My 01 Z28 M6 did 13.1 @ 108 stock in similar conditions at the same track.
Love these things. One of the few times Camaro actually sneaked out a Corvette beater which was a big NO NO at GM. Firehawk did the same thing a few times. And GNX. It's too bad Camaro and Firebird always had to be restrained so as not to "beat Corvette". They were in a tough position where they needed to compete with Mustang but not beat Corvette. That's kind of like telling a Pro boxer he can hit hard, but not his hardest. Probably only reason the 97 F-bodies were allowed to get the LT4 was because by that time the all new C5 Corvette had the "superior" LS1. I still have this ep on tape from the original air.
You actually have the argument backwards. Camaro isn't and never has been "restrained" by Corvette. It's actually quite ADVANTAGED by the relationship. The ability to take on and beat Ford's Mustang was made easier by the Corvette. Chevy's quest to build more power into a Corvette has always trickles down to Camaro out of a desire to make "scale" work to offset the cost of development. Politics inside concerning the more expensive car needing to maintain something for the money spent by a buyer explains only the advertised ratings of engine power but every car guy knows a 70' LT-1 makes the same power in either car despite a 370 gross HP rating in a Corvette vs 360 in a Camaro. Still true years later they play the game of advertised power numbers bigger in the Corvette but ultimately each platform benefits both. Without Camaro Corvette often wouldn't have the scale on it own to justify development cost. Without Corvette the Camaro probably wouldn't see the same level of power development because Chevy attempts to make Corvette as close to super car status at a budget price tag as it possibly can.
Yup, that optispark was the worst design! And GM gave up on making replacement parts a number of years ago. So when I had to get that replaced and there wasn't anymore of those original parts available, it made me change my 97 Z28 for a 2013 SS and never looked back.
Those LT1/LT4 engines need at least 315 sized tires like the 17inch vette and I would say it would hit 0-60 at around 4.2sec versus 4.9sec. LT5,LT4,LT1 are one of the best engines ever produced.
my LT1 has 235K miles on it still runs strong. the car is actually not in terrible shape but it has allot of little stuff that needs to be replaced. the exhaust is shot along with allot of the interior stuff. i just dont have money to put into it right now beyond normal maintenance. its a 1996 camaro Z28 LT1, the fact that its still reliable, great engine. i will say the car is structurally sound and i have no intention of getting rid of her. still to this day, daily driven all summer long, parked in the winter.
And then there were the 1997 SS Hendrick Editions .. Very rare cars and i ain't sellin mine :) Too bad i modded the the crap out of it .. does 11's and somehow passes smog in Cali :)
It might be hard to find one with low miles but the prices are dirt low because it’s been so heavily misunderstood and getting coverage on them is dirt cheap because of the years that have passed.
With the newer fatter street tires and suspension mods both the LT and LS series 4 gens will run 12's. The old L98 tune ports will run 13's with these mods as well.
Because the Camaro has a solid rear axle which hooks better in the 1/4 mile... the Corvette has IRS and is setup for circuit and not dragstrip... which is why past F-bodies have run better 1/4 mile times in road tests compared to the Corvette... but the Vette will outperform the F-body on the road course.
I agree but with today's aftermarket suspension parts you can get a C4 corvette to hook up just as good. My camaro I broke the 10bolt rear 3 times and then I said F*ck it and paid the outrageous price for a Moser 12-bolt with a 33 spline Tru-Trac posi and 4.10 gears with 33 spline axles. Only thing that sucks is that the Moser 12-bolt rears still uses the same crappy axle seals compared to a Strange 12-bolt. Strange machines there rear ends with a superb axle seal setup that will never leak. Since 12-bolt rear ends were not intended for sharp cornering which these f-body cars do well, the extra side loading on a 12-bolt axle seal can't hold up. Some people who has a camaro or firebird with a 12 bolt other than a Strange unit has to replace there axle seals every year.
@@Savineyard3 Yep, I went with the Moser 9" floating axil set up in my 93, because I road course race, I have torn up two ring and pinions in that also, with the tru track.
Out perform a stock F-body. With today's aftermarket stuff like Watt's links and 4 point subframe connectors, LCA relocators, adjustable Torque Arms, and your choice of springs, shocks, and struts, It's anybody's game on the road coarse.
Well, it's the future... but they can sure make the power, Just the fact you noticed makes you a gearhead, that's cool. 4:26 you can hear that LT trying to inhale that paper filter, sounds great doesn't it ! ? ! BA ride even with an LT, basically a C5 with a F4 body.
Well,I have one in a 96 corvette. It is more pleasure to drive than any other sport/muscle I have had,several. Pretty quickedy. Worst thing is ,high frame threshold makes it a bitch for my old knees ...fall in...crawl out. Long legs on these...she go 130 in 4th. Who knows in 6th.
ALL 96-97 SS models should have had the LT4. Why GM? Didn't want to step on the toes of the Corvette? SLP had the vision of what the car really should have been.
apples and oranges corvette touring competitor . camaro is sedan pony car. . Tork band and gears are different. corvette does like 188 camaro has factory lower rpm mph range/ pony get lower gears so around town ponys rule I been wooping both with stock lt1 Z28 LOL. Cause I know every bodys tork band with 561 heads . and racing 6.2 liter LT4s. the smaller intakes have better low end ... I shift early and as fast as I can. Embracing my low end Some thing to be said for the Later LT1 Z28 performance package. I beat them by better than 10 car lengths . It came with crazy spacers under coil overs and factory Hooker superformance exaust. as the performance exaust option. You notice the scca trans am racers dont have the stinger hoods; the 561 heads have a higher roof and better vortech . more horse power, I dont know how much . It has a 2.01 60 ft didnt make it through quarter though tire blew. Ihere something to be said for factory delco racers . its tuned like a lt4, not sure how. it has higher rpm bands , it revs higher
It corners better too harder ride no travel and is lower with Delco shocks LOL and a huge sway bar in front. thats why in 97 the camaro lost to ford a 3/8 exaust stud broke It was a mile ahead and lost cause driver didnt back off rpms !!!
Thanks for posting. I wonder if those numbers came from the run we see on here comming out sideways lol If so it's a 12sec car with traction. I never heard of a LT-4 Firehawk. what year was it 1997? That sounds cool but never heard of such a thing.
1996/1997 Camaro SS or 1998-2002 camaro SS? ... Both have ram air on the SS, the LT-1 has 305 horsepower and the LS-1 has 320-330 depending on the SLP options. ... Their value in time will be so much higher than the later ones .... How does the LS-1 respond to intake, exhaust, and chip mods? Can't decied whic is better any opinions?
@@theeducatedredneck4144 oh wow didnt know the torque curve was that high yea i guess thats why my old lt1 feels beefier than the ls and 5.0 stangs, i went 8.90s on stock tires in the 1/8 with 3,73 but i spun bad sure miss that car
@@scottwilson599 thats true.. And its pretty easy to build a 400hp lt1 so that negates paying premium for a factory lt4 equipped fbody of which there are only abt 125 produced. Lt4 > ls1.. But ls1 > lt1.
Wow, really ? I always was impressed with them and looks like I got to get my own SS some new struts and springs because I think such grip numbers would take me out in corners with my 12 y.o. suspension :)
Convertibles typically handle worse than Coupes and T-Top/Targa cars due to less chassis support from the missing roof, ironically they are also typically heavier.
Say what? I never heard of a LT-4 Firehawk. This is a coold video and def a badarse car. Man, 13.2 and 4.9. I wonder if they got those numbers while burning sideways out of the hole like in the vid. If so, that's a 12 second car with dragradials. Thanks for posting. Thumb up and fav.
I had one of these...it looked just like the one they're testing (white, with red racing stripes)...I was 20 years-old when I got it, I'm 26 now, I sold that car & bought a 1979 Camaro Z28 that had a 350 LT-1 (NOT AN LT1, an LT-1, the one in my Z28 came out of a 1970 Corvette, pushed 370 Horsepower ROLLING OFF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR. It was running 11:1 Compression, had a Forged Steep Crankshaft, the Camshaft was a little bit higher lifting, but nothing *that* radical...)
Just noticed the test car int he video lacks the houndstooth of white leather seats. Looks like this is one of the prototype cars that they led all the journalist to do their test with.
and make it sound like shit or even worse a ford, fuck that. That firing order bullshit is the only thing wrong with LS engines . And no it does not make it run any smoother ,it sounds smoother at idle but has no effect on vibration and even a 60's big block with a wild race cam that is so choppy it won't idle is still smoother and has less vibrations then a good modern 4 cylinder , no matter how choppy the cam is the crankshaft balance is what determines the vibrations and cross plane v8's are inherently well balanced even more so when properly internally balanced, unless you run solid motor mounts in which case get fucked cause life is going to suck.
I Had A Chance To Buy One Of These Camaros In 2006 Of It Had T/Tops Though I Hate Hardtop Fbodys Im Glad I Waited & Got A 99 Black On Black WS6 Trans Am I Just Wanted A Fast Car But My Heart Always Beated For A Ram Air Trans Am So I Went With The Trans Am The T/A Looks Better Anyway
a few differneces, remove the oil pan, it should have a 4bolt block, also remove the vlave covers.10239902 is the heads casting number, also the lt1 intake wont fit the lt4 heads.plus the lt4 will rev up 1k more than the lt1
@sydneyluna you would own the only black 30th anniversary car in the world... all 97's say 30th on the seat but to be a true anniversary car they are white with hugger orange sttripes with white interior and white ZR1s on the SS model and white std. 5 spokes on the Z28.
Wow..some major under ratings. The slp 427 edition get close too 600 hp.and the price tag was well above 60g.a dealer could not even order one for 125g. And today you can build one for less then 10g.
Anyone else watch this and question if these numbers are low? Just look at all of the dust on the test surface. No wonder it took mustnag years to finally better 4th gen Camaro's performance.
I'm the proud owner of an immaculate low mileage '94 Z28. After drooling over these 4th gen Z's I finally have one....... the best Camaro I have ever owned in my 35 years of driving. White full load with T-tops..... love it.
No way same year same story... your name doesn't start with a C does it?
@@hazard4349 No S
Dude, these cars had all of 400 hp...
I've had a 95Z28 and an 89 IROC personally I liked the IROC more it handled quite a bit better than the 95 did but the 95 had more power, I have a 92 corvette now and I'll probably never buy another camaro after owning this!
Remember watching this on a Sat. morning on old TNN. Thanks for sharing.
I have most of them on tape from 1997
me too
+Mario Iacolucci So do I, and even more from 1998 as well.
lmao Me too man. shit I was like 12 years old
MOLON LABE I was 11 myself.
I remember this episode. Makes me miss the old days
13.2 @ 108+ is stupid fast for 1997 and still quick today.
8 years later and still quick!
Very impressive showing from the LT4 especially when the LT1 would be lucky to pull off a mid 13 in stock form. LT4 was very comparable to the late LS1 in power.
Source: I had a 95 Z28 that only managed 14.1 @ 97mph stock while my 01 Z28 did 13.1 @ 108 stock.
Yes!. But some reviews got 12.9 stock! They could run mid 12s w rear drag slicks and 15 inch drag wheels!
@@S8ER Were both autos/manuals? And what were the rear end gears? (2.73? 3.42? Etc.). Just curious. I figure they were both M6 with those times.
I had my share of LS1’s and an LS6
@@dr.lyleevans6915 I was speaking of M6/3.42 cars specifically.
I owned 2 different LT1 Z28 Automatics (2.73 and a 3.23 geared) both were 14.1-14.2 @ 97-99mph at best stock.
My 01 Z28 M6 did 13.1 @ 108 stock in similar conditions at the same track.
man those lt1/lt4 were the best souding engines out of all of gm's v8's
Actually the LS1 sounds better
@@xsbgtr it’s more of a opinion not a fact
The ZR-1 LT5 sounds remarkable and so does the L69 H.O.!
@@xsbgtr Actually you cray cray
The LT1 under my hood would sway me to agree with you.
Love these things. One of the few times Camaro actually sneaked out a Corvette beater which was a big NO NO at GM. Firehawk did the same thing a few times. And GNX. It's too bad Camaro and Firebird always had to be restrained so as not to "beat Corvette". They were in a tough position where they needed to compete with Mustang but not beat Corvette. That's kind of like telling a Pro boxer he can hit hard, but not his hardest. Probably only reason the 97 F-bodies were allowed to get the LT4 was because by that time the all new C5 Corvette had the "superior" LS1.
I still have this ep on tape from the original air.
You actually have the argument backwards. Camaro isn't and never has been "restrained" by Corvette. It's actually quite ADVANTAGED by the relationship. The ability to take on and beat Ford's Mustang was made easier by the Corvette. Chevy's quest to build more power into a Corvette has always trickles down to Camaro out of a desire to make "scale" work to offset the cost of development. Politics inside concerning the more expensive car needing to maintain something for the money spent by a buyer explains only the advertised ratings of engine power but every car guy knows a 70' LT-1 makes the same power in either car despite a 370 gross HP rating in a Corvette vs 360 in a Camaro. Still true years later they play the game of advertised power numbers bigger in the Corvette but ultimately each platform benefits both. Without Camaro Corvette often wouldn't have the scale on it own to justify development cost. Without Corvette the Camaro probably wouldn't see the same level of power development because Chevy attempts to make Corvette as close to super car status at a budget price tag as it possibly can.
Damn I remember me and my dad use to watch this show every weekend together.
That's one thing about those LT1/LT4 engines... they love to rev.
nedaCFilms' #MustangTown and blow head gaskets
@@youtubesecurity5702 Don't forget the optispark too
@@youtubesecurity5702 i put 50K on my car. no head gasket issues. the car has a total mileage of 253K
Yup, that optispark was the worst design! And GM gave up on making replacement parts a number of years ago. So when I had to get that replaced and there wasn't anymore of those original parts available, it made me change my 97 Z28 for a 2013 SS and never looked back.
@Robert Poudrette @2:38 never forget this! Long live the LT’s
God I hate these old videos because none of these guys can drive a car or launch.
It’s a solid 12 sec car
My folks ordered there's new from Ed Hamburger at SLP and still own it today. 3700 miles
Drive that thing!!! I'll drive it for ya...
Need more shows like this straight cars no jokes
All of that Torque/Intake Noise makes it sounds like a Jet.
Tried to buy one of these when they came out gm was like uh they're all gone lol
I recorded this when it aired and watched it over...and over...and over. Awesome post
Thanks for posting this. I remember watching this episode when it first came out all those years ago. That was a bad ass car.
I love watching this thing lay down those burnouts
Those LT1/LT4 engines need at least 315 sized tires like the 17inch vette and I would say it would hit 0-60 at around 4.2sec versus 4.9sec. LT5,LT4,LT1 are one of the best engines ever produced.
Exactly.....
my LT1 has 235K miles on it still runs strong. the car is actually not in terrible shape but it has allot of little stuff that needs to be replaced. the exhaust is shot along with allot of the interior stuff. i just dont have money to put into it right now beyond normal maintenance. its a 1996 camaro Z28 LT1, the fact that its still reliable, great engine. i will say the car is structurally sound and i have no intention of getting rid of her. still to this day, daily driven all summer long, parked in the winter.
andrew donohue Gotta love pushrods
Except for the optispark
not a great ignition system BUT not a deal breaker either. still a great engine.
There were 6359 Lt4's made in the 96 vette. 100 camaro's and I think 29 firehawks. I have one of the corvettes,all were zf 6 speeds.
Also it's important to note you could get the LT4 in a base Corvette, Grand Sport and Collector's Edition.
And then there were the 1997 SS Hendrick Editions .. Very rare cars and i ain't sellin mine :) Too bad i modded the the crap out of it .. does 11's and somehow passes smog in Cali :)
Thanks for uploading these videos!! What a great era of muscle...better buy them now before they are all snapped up!! 💪🚗!!
I would love to have one of those little monsters today!
Very impressed by this car. Ive always wanted one
WOW! I remember watching this episode back then.
Thanks for posting this. I've been looking for this video for a while.
Lt4 intake manifold also moves a good bit more air, they were sweet motors
They were blue printed and balanced too.
Wow, I have never looked into that. Good stuff. Can't believe I've missed that. TY
I wished GM still made the LT4 engine conversion kit. I’d buy one in a heartbeat
Summit Racing or Jegs might
There's quite a few lt4 conversion packages put there. Fellow 95 lt1 owner.
I had about the same set up. but had Ported Heads and weight reduction. I went 12.94 107 Mph. 1996 SS Clone
Forgot to mention that was on street tires
Nice! What gear and stall did you run?
@@raz_nick4048 3.42 gears stock stall. also had 1.6 roller rockers
Wow!! What a young future host of Horsepower TV at the end of the video.
I remember wanting one of these 20 years ago!
It might be hard to find one with low miles but the prices are dirt low because it’s been so heavily misunderstood and getting coverage on them is dirt cheap because of the years that have passed.
best looking car ever. the dream!
Great show always 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thank you.
I did not know that about firing order.
I never liked "LS" exhaust sounds.
I own a black 30th anniversary ss. I love it!
I had a 97 just like this and too this day it would jump out the hole faster than any car i been in
thanks for uploading this, you RULE
ME TOO .. I WILL KEEP THIS CAR TILL THE DAY I DIE
Great videos!
lt4,SS put down some good numbers,I had a ls1 01 t/a ram air auto,13:40-13:50 stock with 3:23 gears.nothing but respect.
What a beauty!
@1:54 is when I got the popcorn ready..
I had a polo green one i called it the Hulk love it to death
LOVE THIS CAR
With the newer fatter street tires and suspension mods both the LT and LS series 4 gens will run 12's. The old L98 tune ports will run 13's with these mods as well.
Because the Camaro has a solid rear axle which hooks better in the 1/4 mile... the Corvette has IRS and is setup for circuit and not dragstrip... which is why past F-bodies have run better 1/4 mile times in road tests compared to the Corvette... but the Vette will outperform the F-body on the road course.
I agree but with today's aftermarket suspension parts you can get a C4 corvette to hook up just as good. My camaro I broke the 10bolt rear 3 times and then I said F*ck it and paid the outrageous price for a Moser 12-bolt with a 33 spline Tru-Trac posi and 4.10 gears with 33 spline axles. Only thing that sucks is that the Moser 12-bolt rears still uses the same crappy axle seals compared to a Strange 12-bolt. Strange machines there rear ends with a superb axle seal setup that will never leak. Since 12-bolt rear ends were not intended for sharp cornering which these f-body cars do well, the extra side loading on a 12-bolt axle seal can't hold up. Some people who has a camaro or firebird with a 12 bolt other than a Strange unit has to replace there axle seals every year.
@@Savineyard3 Yep, I went with the Moser 9" floating axil set up in my 93, because I road course race, I have torn up two ring and pinions in that also, with the tru track.
Out perform a stock F-body. With today's aftermarket stuff like Watt's links and 4 point subframe connectors, LCA relocators, adjustable Torque Arms, and your choice of springs, shocks, and struts, It's anybody's game on the road coarse.
@@Savineyard3 yeah, bud. A well dialed in watts link is a beautiful thing.
Like los que lo estaba viendo en 2021
love it
Awesome car and rare.
My buddies dad has one of those Camaro's with around 6000 miles sitting at his body shop under a car cover locked away in a building.
dream car...
Well, it's the future... but they can sure make the power, Just the fact you noticed makes you a gearhead, that's cool. 4:26 you can hear that LT trying to inhale that paper filter, sounds great doesn't it ! ? ! BA ride even with an LT, basically a C5 with a F4 body.
Well,I have one in a 96 corvette. It is more pleasure to drive than any other sport/muscle I have had,several. Pretty quickedy. Worst thing is ,high frame threshold makes it a bitch for my old knees ...fall in...crawl out. Long legs on these...she go 130 in 4th. Who knows in 6th.
@Z28ChevySB The LT4 intake is orange, compared to the LT1's gray metal color (only thing I really know)
Luv it
ALL 96-97 SS models should have had the LT4. Why GM? Didn't want to step on the toes of the Corvette? SLP had the vision of what the car really should have been.
I 100% agree
I guess that lt4 cam was so much more expensive than the stock lt1 cam.
apples and oranges corvette touring competitor .
camaro is sedan pony car. .
Tork band and gears are different.
corvette does like 188
camaro has factory lower rpm mph range/
pony get lower gears
so around town ponys rule
I been wooping both with stock lt1 Z28 LOL.
Cause I know every bodys tork band
with 561 heads .
and racing 6.2 liter LT4s.
the smaller intakes have better low end ...
I shift early and as fast as I can.
Embracing my low end
Some thing to be said for the Later LT1 Z28 performance package.
I beat them by better than 10 car lengths .
It came with crazy spacers under coil overs and
factory Hooker superformance exaust. as the performance exaust
option.
You notice the scca trans am racers dont have the stinger hoods;
the 561 heads have a higher roof and better vortech .
more horse power, I dont know how much .
It has a 2.01 60 ft didnt make it through quarter though tire blew.
Ihere something to be said for factory delco racers .
its tuned like a lt4, not sure how.
it has higher rpm bands , it revs higher
It corners better too harder ride no travel
and is lower with Delco shocks LOL
and a huge sway bar in front.
thats why in 97 the camaro lost to ford a 3/8 exaust stud broke
It was a mile ahead and lost cause driver didnt back off rpms !!!
Oh course Chevrolet didn't want any other car to of the division to outperform their Corvette.. Pontiac came too close
Thanks for posting. I wonder if those numbers came from the run we see on here comming out sideways lol If so it's a 12sec car with traction. I never heard of a LT-4 Firehawk. what year was it 1997? That sounds cool but never heard of such a thing.
1996/1997 Camaro SS or 1998-2002 camaro SS? ... Both have ram air on the SS, the LT-1 has 305 horsepower and the LS-1 has 320-330 depending on the SLP options. ... Their value in time will be so much higher than the later ones .... How does the LS-1 respond to intake, exhaust, and chip mods? Can't decied whic is better any opinions?
Jim Scoutten da best.
4570shooter every car is the hot one lol
Wow it's faster than ls1 ss
I guess so, my best pass in my 2000 WS6 Trans Am was a 13:35 when it was all stock.
@@willpowers4762 what tires? Thats pretty quick
The stock tires, launched from an idle the car never spun the tires.The LS1 makes peak torque at 4400 rpm and the LT1 around 2200 rpm.
@@theeducatedredneck4144 oh wow didnt know the torque curve was that high yea i guess thats why my old lt1 feels beefier than the ls and 5.0 stangs, i went 8.90s on stock tires in the 1/8 with 3,73 but i spun bad sure miss that car
@@theeducatedredneck4144 that low end grunt makes the LT1 fun to drive. i dont have to rev the piss out of it to really get it moving lol
When shopping for a used one, how can you be sure you get an LT4 one?
98-02 ss are the best, ls1 baby
wowzers
This car is wicked fast. Look at the video for the normal 97 SS
All the LS Engine fanboys say it will outrun the LT4, I have tried to tell them......
I smash LS all day long in my LT4.. Even the new SS is lunch meat.
@@AgentEran i'll take an ls1 since it's much cheaper than buying a 97 Camaro with an Lt4.
@@scottwilson599 thats true.. And its pretty easy to build a 400hp lt1 so that negates paying premium for a factory lt4 equipped fbody of which there are only abt 125 produced. Lt4 > ls1.. But ls1 > lt1.
@@AgentEran That is true its easier to build both. The 4th gen is the best Camaro since the 1st gen imo. 5th gens are too bulky and heavy.
@@scottwilson599 They are the best, I put a ls3 427 in my 02 Camaro, hauls ass!
.92g - sick numbers, the '98 Z-28 Convertible had only .83g
Looks like this was the best Camaro & one of the best handling US cars of the '90s :)
'90 Iroc z pulled .94 G's!!! ;)
Wow, really ?
I always was impressed with them and looks like I got to get my own SS some new struts and springs because I think such grip numbers would take me out in corners with my 12 y.o. suspension :)
GROS PHALLUS True, but then again Camaros always did.
Convertibles typically handle worse than Coupes and T-Top/Targa cars due to less chassis support from the missing roof, ironically they are also typically heavier.
Yeah, I know bro.
I was trying to find some grip #'s for my '02 SLP SS but the '98 Z/28 Convertible was the only one I could find for those Camaros.
$40,000 in 1997 is a lot more in today's money.
About 70 grand
Say what? I never heard of a LT-4 Firehawk. This is a coold video and def a badarse car. Man, 13.2 and 4.9. I wonder if they got those numbers while burning sideways out of the hole like in the vid. If so, that's a 12 second car with dragradials. Thanks for posting. Thumb up and fav.
I had one of these...it looked just like the one they're testing (white, with red racing stripes)...I was 20 years-old when I got it, I'm 26 now, I sold that car & bought a 1979 Camaro Z28 that had a 350 LT-1 (NOT AN LT1, an LT-1, the one in my Z28 came out of a 1970 Corvette, pushed 370 Horsepower ROLLING OFF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR. It was running 11:1 Compression, had a Forged Steep Crankshaft, the Camshaft was a little bit higher lifting, but nothing *that* radical...)
IMaDEM0N damn, I would understand if u sold to get a 67-70 but 79? Who cares if the motor is built u should of kept the 97
Just noticed the test car int he video lacks the houndstooth of white leather seats. Looks like this is one of the prototype cars that they led all the journalist to do their test with.
Driving like that is a perfect example of why you should never buy anyone's used garbage.
It better be. It's All-Wheel-Drive with twin turbo.
4-7 swap makes the motor run smoother.
and make it sound like shit or even worse a ford, fuck that. That firing order bullshit is the only thing wrong with LS engines . And no it does not make it run any smoother ,it sounds smoother at idle but has no effect on vibration and even a 60's big block with a wild race cam that is so choppy it won't idle is still smoother and has less vibrations then a good modern 4 cylinder , no matter how choppy the cam is the crankshaft balance is what determines the vibrations and cross plane v8's are inherently well balanced even more so when properly internally balanced, unless you run solid motor mounts in which case get fucked cause life is going to suck.
Rumor has it S197 Mustangs are still trying to catch up
That is a BAMF imo. A set of 4.10 gears and dr's and it's running with stock termis.
ztwntyn8 I would even go as far and say I bet It would 90% of stock termis from a dig.
did they say "headers"??
I Had A Chance To Buy One Of These Camaros In 2006 Of It Had T/Tops Though I Hate Hardtop Fbodys Im Glad I Waited & Got A 99 Black On Black WS6 Trans Am I Just Wanted A Fast Car But My Heart Always Beated For A Ram Air Trans Am So I Went With The Trans Am The T/A Looks Better Anyway
I had the SLP version.Should haver sold it..
a few differneces, remove the oil pan, it should have a 4bolt block, also remove the vlave covers.10239902 is the heads casting number, also the lt1 intake wont fit the lt4 heads.plus the lt4 will rev up 1k more than the lt1
Go for an ls1 there actually around 320-345 on my opinion I have a 98 z28 and I love it
@andyb521740 not all of them had houndstooth... some where straight white.
TNN ...those were the days.
This was $40,000 in 1997. That's about $50,000 today.
Those Blue Blockers at 1:45
@sydneyluna you would own the only black 30th anniversary car in the world... all 97's say 30th on the seat but to be a true anniversary car they are white with hugger orange sttripes with white interior and white ZR1s on the SS model and white std. 5 spokes on the Z28.
Took furd till the coyotah to match that na performance.
40k in 97 is like 80+ today
Wow..some major under ratings. The slp 427 edition get close too 600 hp.and the price tag was well above 60g.a dealer could not even order one for 125g. And today you can build one for less then 10g.
Lt1 vs lt4 what you guys think? I have a 95 camaro v6 5 speed. I want to do a v8 swap ( still want a manual ) any tips would be appreciated
shot gun 5 just buy a factory LT1 camaro. You’ll be time and money ahead..
CamaroAmx lol got rid of it. Got a 5.0 now
i never knew they put the lt4 in a camaro
@imserious2187 Gotta give the ol LT4 credit though.
Anyone else watch this and question if these numbers are low? Just look at all of the dust on the test surface. No wonder it took mustnag years to finally better 4th gen Camaro's performance.
I stil rather get an ls1 fbody I’m saving up for one as we speak. Hopefully find a good trans am
Did you ever find you one?..
This car was very faster than the Mustang...
Haha that guy has a porn stache
lol lt1 was already the heart of the corvette lol love camaros
I bet you can’t find a stock one of those anywhere
this looks like a 30th Anniversary Camaro
Back when tv wasn’t shit
1997 pulling .92g thats like evo/sti numbers.
in my 96 LT4 Vette when I shift from 3rd to 4th I'm doing 105 MPH
GOD DAMN YOU BETTER SLOW DOWN YOU'RE GOING TO KILL SOMEONE!
I wonder what this car would do with modern tires.?.?