i loved the part where everyone was like "guard claw guard claw! is he in fungal? guard the entrance!" while fire was just casually chilling in the sanctuary for pretty much no reason
Oh, if you came out like 10 seconds earlier from the tram room at RG, I would have cought you, I JUST left the tall room before you came back. How lucky you can be
Too bad they completely overthought what he did and assumed he outplayed them so the hiding was kinda pointless lol. Which I suppose in and of itself is outplaying them, so they weren’t wrong.
@@MrLegendofLP probably not in the 1 hour 30 minutes time limit, but I bet he could get it in the 2 hour limit. Then he sets a dreamgate at a dreamer, right out of their view, does the boss fight before they can get to him, then leave before getting the dreamer, set the gate at black egg, then get the actual dreamer. All the while the hunters are like “wtf is going on???”
@@Spiney09 That's a huge waste of time man, wouldn't it be worth it for him to go after 900 essences to get to the portal, in 2 hours? I wouldn't give it
@@Pdl9live he had no time limit this last time though, so now it’s possible. Plus you can kill most of the dream warriors SUPER easily with base loadout.
Yeah, he helped a lot; though the others were also good at following through on the coordination, and also helped pinpoint his location quite accurately a number of times. This team of hunters seemed especially good at devising Fireb0rn's route.
I really enjoyed seeing how Blue is so good at guessing where fire is(tho qol messed up with some of the assumptions) and refer to room names very accurately. He's a top 112 speedrunner after all. Pls have him more often!😄 And thanks for the vid fire!
There’s no way to 100% know where he is at all times. If he gets only one item they can assume he hasn’t gotten it yet and just wait for when he gets there(it happened with lantern in this video) Blue did a great job.
This was SO fun! Rematch Mr. God Gamer...we have a better idea of what to expect! It's really cool to see exactly what you were doing compared to what we thought! Thanks again for letting me be a part of this :D
Hes mentioned before that he has been trying to figure out a ruleset/formula for this for awhile without it being completely boring. I agree I want to see it but I respect that he has identified that the much longer ending + the fact that it makes it hard for the hunters to actually track him will make it hard to be fun/competitive
@@randomaccount4950 correct :) even though all endings are canonically "true" it's easier to categorize and before TC stated that all endings are canon, most of us considered dream no more the True Ending
Such great tracking this team had! Great synergy. Kadala especially was like crazy good at finding Fire, she just happened upon him every 5 minutes. Such chill vibes too, new fav
Here is a concept for maps. If you want to you could sacrifice time to buy a map part from conifer, And the map shows if one of the hunters are in the area (without ink and quill it will just show a compass shell sprite). if you buy ink and quill you can see exactly how many people are there, or alternatively exactly where the closest hunter is in that area.
Honestly, I think fire should be in the voice call again. It allows for faster communication than typing, as well as it might change his plans in reaction to theirs, whether it works or not. It was also hilarious in the old ones when he would quip at them, or tease them while doing something!
It is nice in terms of content for fire to be able to engage in trash talk with the hunters, but at the same time letting the hunters freely communicate and strategize without worrying about giving Fire too much info is better for the competition itself. Plus, keeping Fire in the dark just makes more sense in terms of game design I think. Makes things more tense for him when he doesn’t know for sure what any of them are doing at any given time.
@@MrLegendofLP yeah, like when he was hiding in the tram. Fire was surely panicking there, because he had NO way of knowing whether they left or not, if they were waiting right outside the room to ambush him, or what. If he was in the call, he could listen to them and work out a good time to escape. Although, the hunters could use it against him and pretend like they left, only to ambush him when he thinks they're gone.
I always love these videos and their action-heavy direction -- but I really miss the feel of the first couple hunter vs speedrunner videos. It would be really cool to eventually see an episode or two of this with a different ruleset that focuses a lot more on informational warfare and deceptive play rather than constant duels!
Finally decided to play Hollow Knight and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve made lately. Already 10 hours in and am about to explore deepnest a bit more since I have no clue what else to do other than mines
love the plays, kind of crazy how little the hunters actually pursued him though (giving up herrah and monomon and moving on to the next dreamer before fire even finished the gauntlets)
I haven't seen anyone else mention what seemed to be the intentional play of staying at 5 health around the hunters so that they wouldn't realize you'd gotten another mask. That was pretty cool.
Saving this to watch during my next meal. Gotta say I'm so excited. Your early Speedrunner vs hunter runs got me through a really really shitty semester a while back. It's absolutely my favourite content of yours, though I can appreciate it's probably difficult to produce. Thanks for the upload!
Thanks everybody who assisted of the making of the video. It's always great and brightens my day to watch theses videos I love it when they get really close and Fire has to fend off the players. Please keep up the fantastic work.
This was a hype manhunt episode. The chase through the fungal to mantis claws was slick. And the escape after getting dream nail was nail bittingly intense when they almost got you.
I got confused when you went to teachers archives last because I forgot hunters could not go in arenas (apart from black egg) and I thought you were going to spend the rest of the run fighting both them and ummu at the same time like one of the other hunter speed run videos 😂😂😂
Some of my favorite videos on youtube! this one did not disappoint! Would be fun to see mini screen POV of enemies in the bottom of video for the next round!
Absolutely love this series. Thanks so much fire, hunter, and editor for the awesome content! Smiled at the part where everyone got excited at Fire doing his lil video intro 😂 Same tbh
I feel like in this run they were much less cordinated and slower rather than in other runs like the one with crankytemplar or hunthussle where they were much faster and able to keep up and guard more effectively
They almost had him at Resting grounds haha. They seem too scattered this time where only one person finds him at a time. They should've pushed him every time he got a dreamer or before that. Early game and late game is when they should be hella aggressive. Also should've divided the last fight into pairs where in two are ready at the entrance at all times while there are two inside the fight and when one dies another enters type shit. Good game to the God Gamers though. That was a fun watch
A pitch for a game mode that's less reliant on checkpoints and has more opportunities for big brain plays on both sides: Speedrunner is racing not to beat the game, but to collect 20 charms as fast as possible. However, the speedrunner can't use the charms they collect, and the hunters can (so as the game goes on, hunters have more build options).
Really fun video, honestly I feel like if the format was the exact same as it is now but hunters can always see your location that might make things a little bit more interesting, and still probably possible, you being the god gamer that you are.
I've just started watching these! Theyre awesome! Im jumping up and cheering when Fire pulls a fast one! Reslly happy a no entering a boss arena rule came up. That Uumuu and watcher fight in a previous vid just didnt feel fair.
Oke oke, one wea i loved about this series. Is how every party always have one or two alfas who or aim directly to Fireborn's location or they just better stay guarding the eepy bois (if i was a hunter, i'll totally stay there holding X and spin no matter the Hollow knight i see falling towards me)
I just want to thank you cause you made me like Hollow Knight I remember that day like my name my phone was broken so I used my ps4 to watch videos when I saw your video about how Hollow Knight players beat any rad and today I beat HK 45m:37s but I didn't record it thinking it's going to be bad like my other runs so thank you
This was awesome i love your Speedrunner vs hunter vids, ive watched all of them besides the one were you got claw before dash i hope to see more of this keep up the good work!
One thing I think would be a funny version of this would be hunters being allowed to enter boss rooms, but they have friendly fire and must mute when they enter a boss room, so instead of being a normal boss fight or an unfair gang-up it's a balancing act of how many hunters should attack before they're hurting each other more than Fire. I know from the Godhome Among Us thing that you can handle one PVPer while fighting a boss.
I loved the ending fight since fire had to fight hollow knight along with 4 hunters simultaneously like how the hollow knight was fighting the player and radiance.
Fire love ur content on YT and Twitch amazing video i love how this manhunts are like a mix of epic and funny this is my favorite series because of that also one tip is that i think you should add restrictions or some plots to the run soo is way more interesting... if u dont do that there is np you can do wathever u want. Good video
It'd be really cool to see one of these where the Hunters get a constant lifeline, but the lifeline is just some person who doesn't know Hollow Knight but who gets to hear all your sounds, trying to replicate them. Imagine someone just going "oh there's a lot of thumping" "That's probably gruz mother!" and that sorta thing. I think it'd be a unique test of player knowledge lol
Honestly, he had an extra half hour. If they keep this time frame, he could go for shade cloak and approach fog canyon or queens garden from an unexpected angle. Plus get abyss shriek.
It was good but it needs a rule change perhaps based on the hunters because the whole time was just domination, they killed you only once the whole time and there was a single digit amount of close calls
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In every video you go to the hidden room outside the station it is like a tradition at this point
hey fireborn have you seen the new "thorn skip"-skip in the path of pain speedrun? does anyone know who invented that or how it works? thats insane
You play sonic 2006?
Thanks for having me, Fire! Next time, i won’t be as rusty so you’ll have a harder time😤
Gotta train your 112 skills
u did well!!
Thanks for being here, love everything you do Blue, have a good day.
I'm so glad you are in the video 🤗
@@emaraldslug lmao 😂
21:58 that heavy sentry was so ready, he just *leaped* on you
I've never seen a Heavy Sentry jump that far before LOL.
that was a jump scare
@@TimeOrTimelies this one didn't eat as many burgers as the others
@@efeakkayaa jump scares usually are one shots
lol yeah, it starts an attack because a different player gets within attack range of it, then targets me
Imagine being the Hollow Knight, chilling in your room when suddenly 5 of your siblings barge in and start beating the crap out of one another.
" i will make dad proud"
"no i will"
*fighting sounds while thk/radiance sees in confussion*
average older sibling experience
@@lusalar4463 I like how just saying "I'll make my dad proud" as a vessel is enough to make dad throw you into the abyss to die
Hiding at the tram at 1 HP for so long LOL I can feel how nervous it is to stay so long just to ensure hunters are gone already
I wished the Hunters used a lifeline there. He was low, and they still had 4 lifeline with
The fucking gecko-ass behaviour, I love it so much, exactly the shit I pull lmao. Hiding in the corner like a scared lizard... needs a hug.
Editor here! Hope you all enjoyed the video, Speedrunner vs. Hunters vids are always a blast
Thanks! This video was super entertaining
Thank you!!
Great job! The editing on all the more recent Speedrunner vs. Hunters vids makes them almost twice as fun to watch!!
Keep up the great work!
Great job on this one
12:20 was such a clean play, didn't get hit once and literally hit everyone several times, looked absolutely unstoppable LMAO
The God gamer strikes again
he is unstoppable
Hunters: "I wonder where he's gonna go first... Its gonna be something unexpected for sure"
Fire: saves all fc grubs
i don't think he hates grubs now
4:12 yeah lmao
They weren’t wrong
i loved the part where everyone was like "guard claw guard claw! is he in fungal? guard the entrance!" while fire was just casually chilling in the sanctuary for pretty much no reason
Oh, if you came out like 10 seconds earlier from the tram room at RG, I would have cought you, I JUST left the tall room before you came back. How lucky you can be
Just a skill issue.
32:54 the hiding strats was so good here
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Too bad they completely overthought what he did and assumed he outplayed them so the hiding was kinda pointless lol. Which I suppose in and of itself is outplaying them, so they weren’t wrong.
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I’m crying at how he’s less out smarting them and more strong arming his way *through* them 😂
"He could go to deepnest and unlock the stag"
"He doesn't have enough geo for lanturn though"
Yeah, like Dark Deepnest ever stopped fire before.
Still waiting for the time that Fire gets dreamgate and royally screws with the hunter’s minds.
Would that even be viable within the time limit?
@@MrLegendofLP probably not in the 1 hour 30 minutes time limit, but I bet he could get it in the 2 hour limit. Then he sets a dreamgate at a dreamer, right out of their view, does the boss fight before they can get to him, then leave before getting the dreamer, set the gate at black egg, then get the actual dreamer. All the while the hunters are like “wtf is going on???”
@@Spiney09 That's a huge waste of time man, wouldn't it be worth it for him to go after 900 essences to get to the portal, in 2 hours? I wouldn't give it
@@Pdl9live he had no time limit this last time though, so now it’s possible.
Plus you can kill most of the dream warriors SUPER easily with base loadout.
@@MrLegendofLP Not even a little, it's a huge waste of time to go looking for essences, especially 900
Blue really controlled the game, he was great at coordinating the team
Yeah, he helped a lot; though the others were also good at following through on the coordination, and also helped pinpoint his location quite accurately a number of times. This team of hunters seemed especially good at devising Fireb0rn's route.
I really enjoyed seeing how Blue is so good at guessing where fire is(tho qol messed up with some of the assumptions) and refer to room names very accurately. He's a top 112 speedrunner after all. Pls have him more often!😄 And thanks for the vid fire!
I think the hardest thing is telling others locations, often our brain is just "uhhhhh somewhere at *some area*???"😂
There’s no way to 100% know where he is at all times. If he gets only one item they can assume he hasn’t gotten it yet and just wait for when he gets there(it happened with lantern in this video) Blue did a great job.
This was SO fun! Rematch Mr. God Gamer...we have a better idea of what to expect! It's really cool to see exactly what you were doing compared to what we thought! Thanks again for letting me be a part of this :D
The blue balls of winning with 3/4 mask shards and 3k geo was something else
I think doing one of these where he has to get true ending with an adjusted rule set would be fun to watch
yeah that would be cool
Hes mentioned before that he has been trying to figure out a ruleset/formula for this for awhile without it being completely boring. I agree I want to see it but I respect that he has identified that the much longer ending + the fact that it makes it hard for the hunters to actually track him will make it hard to be fun/competitive
True ending speedrunner vs 4 hunters, but I have dreamgate and they cant see it
Have you considered doing a Speedrunner vs. Hunters True Ending? It'd obviously end up being a lot longer, but I think it'd be really fun to watch.
There’s no true ending. You mean dream no more?
@@randomaccount4950 dream no more is referred to as TE in speedrunning ♡
I'd love to see that especially with ax and skurry as hunters
@@drascia ohhhh. So only in speed running?
@@randomaccount4950 correct :) even though all endings are canonically "true" it's easier to categorize and before TC stated that all endings are canon, most of us considered dream no more the True Ending
Such great tracking this team had! Great synergy.
Kadala especially was like crazy good at finding Fire, she just happened upon him every 5 minutes. Such chill vibes too, new fav
Here is a concept for maps. If you want to you could sacrifice time to buy a map part from conifer, And the map shows if one of the hunters are in the area (without ink and quill it will just show a compass shell sprite). if you buy ink and quill you can see exactly how many people are there, or alternatively exactly where the closest hunter is in that area.
Yes! So excited for the return of speedrunner vs hunters! Love from Norway 🇳🇴
Honestly, I think fire should be in the voice call again. It allows for faster communication than typing, as well as it might change his plans in reaction to theirs, whether it works or not. It was also hilarious in the old ones when he would quip at them, or tease them while doing something!
It is nice in terms of content for fire to be able to engage in trash talk with the hunters, but at the same time letting the hunters freely communicate and strategize without worrying about giving Fire too much info is better for the competition itself. Plus, keeping Fire in the dark just makes more sense in terms of game design I think. Makes things more tense for him when he doesn’t know for sure what any of them are doing at any given time.
@@MrLegendofLP yeah, like when he was hiding in the tram. Fire was surely panicking there, because he had NO way of knowing whether they left or not, if they were waiting right outside the room to ambush him, or what. If he was in the call, he could listen to them and work out a good time to escape. Although, the hunters could use it against him and pretend like they left, only to ambush him when he thinks they're gone.
I always love these videos and their action-heavy direction -- but I really miss the feel of the first couple hunter vs speedrunner videos. It would be really cool to eventually see an episode or two of this with a different ruleset that focuses a lot more on informational warfare and deceptive play rather than constant duels!
Appreciate the feedback, but the shift in rules happened because the only people who enjoyed the old rules was the viewers.
@@fireb0rn Ah, gotcha! I wasn't up to date on the lore behind the change. Glad you're doing what you find fun!
I think it might be interesting to see this with TE and a longer timer.
15:56 dude the moment when you completed parkour in full dark without lantern is absolutely insane
Navigating through the darkness with confidence just shows how much he practices this and how good he is
It's nice to see fire finally being nice to the grubs
Bro, Blue's reads were so accurate. Super fun episode! ;)
Finally decided to play Hollow Knight and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve made lately. Already 10 hours in and am about to explore deepnest a bit more since I have no clue what else to do other than mines
This is really is one of the Hollow Knight speedrun of all time
This is truly one of the comments of all time
And this comment is also the comment of the time
I love how the music goes from chill to thrill whenever you're being chased
love the plays, kind of crazy how little the hunters actually pursued him though (giving up herrah and monomon and moving on to the next dreamer before fire even finished the gauntlets)
Time to watch the new release of my favourite action movie series! Thanks as always for the quality content
I haven't seen anyone else mention what seemed to be the intentional play of staying at 5 health around the hunters so that they wouldn't realize you'd gotten another mask. That was pretty cool.
19:11 BRO THE DASHES ARE LINKED WITH THE MUSIC
Saving this to watch during my next meal. Gotta say I'm so excited. Your early Speedrunner vs hunter runs got me through a really really shitty semester a while back. It's absolutely my favourite content of yours, though I can appreciate it's probably difficult to produce. Thanks for the upload!
the hunters were actually super smart this round though, really good teamwork and strategies
Finally, it's back. I've been waiting for another one of these
Thanks everybody who assisted of the making of the video. It's always great and brightens my day to watch theses videos I love it when they get really close and Fire has to fend off the players. Please keep up the fantastic work.
Most entertaining Hunters video yet. They were stuck on you for such a long stretch!
man, every encounter in this video made me think "who's hunting who again?" Fire is BRUTAL to fight.
You should increase the time limit and go for True Ending against 4! Thatd be fun
This was a hype manhunt episode. The chase through the fungal to mantis claws was slick. And the escape after getting dream nail was nail bittingly intense when they almost got you.
38:32 Sly lays down a chilled out groove
You balanced this perfectly with the five minute rule. Great job fire!
I got confused when you went to teachers archives last because I forgot hunters could not go in arenas (apart from black egg) and I thought you were going to spend the rest of the run fighting both them and ummu at the same time like one of the other hunter speed run videos 😂😂😂
Some of my favorite videos on youtube! this one did not disappoint! Would be fun to see mini screen POV of enemies in the bottom of video for the next round!
The post match discussion was really nice. You should do this in the future and for possibly longer too
Please post note of these. I haven’t had my eyes glued to a video like this in months. The most entertaining vid I could have discovered today.
very nice choice of music all the way through so far, and I enjoyed listening to the communicating/strategizing
Absolutely love this series. Thanks so much fire, hunter, and editor for the awesome content! Smiled at the part where everyone got excited at Fire doing his lil video intro 😂 Same tbh
I feel like in this run they were much less cordinated and slower rather than in other runs like the one with crankytemplar or hunthussle where they were much faster and able to keep up and guard more effectively
They almost had him at Resting grounds haha. They seem too scattered this time where only one person finds him at a time. They should've pushed him every time he got a dreamer or before that. Early game and late game is when they should be hella aggressive. Also should've divided the last fight into pairs where in two are ready at the entrance at all times while there are two inside the fight and when one dies another enters type shit. Good game to the God Gamers though. That was a fun watch
Entertaining as always. Thoroughly enjoyed this match. Looking forward to more, and livestreams as well.
i just beat hollow knight casually and watching these types of videos feels surreal. very entertaining!
So happy to see these videos again, I love you speedrunner vs hunter series
Finished the game yesterday so I can finally understand where you're going :D
congratulations, welcome to the club of the Silksong awaiters :D
congratulations, welcome to the club of the Silksong awaiters :D
Hunters: having an intense discussion about what progression fire would have headed towards.
Fire: Ah the corner is so warm, it's 90°
A pitch for a game mode that's less reliant on checkpoints and has more opportunities for big brain plays on both sides:
Speedrunner is racing not to beat the game, but to collect 20 charms as fast as possible. However, the speedrunner can't use the charms they collect, and the hunters can (so as the game goes on, hunters have more build options).
Imagine if, for an April Fools speedrunner vs hunter, you decided to do Path of Pain when they use a lifeline.🗿
This was awesome, loved the content man! I do wish you could hear them so you could like plan around it and try and do like a stealth run 🤣
GGs, it was a lot of fun
Really fun video, honestly I feel like if the format was the exact same as it is now but hunters can always see your location that might make things a little bit more interesting, and still probably possible, you being the god gamer that you are.
I've just started watching these! Theyre awesome! Im jumping up and cheering when Fire pulls a fast one! Reslly happy a no entering a boss arena rule came up. That Uumuu and watcher fight in a previous vid just didnt feel fair.
34:00 what an outplay by the god gamer himself
Oke oke, one wea i loved about this series. Is how every party always have one or two alfas who or aim directly to Fireborn's location or they just better stay guarding the eepy bois (if i was a hunter, i'll totally stay there holding X and spin no matter the Hollow knight i see falling towards me)
I just want to thank you cause you made me like Hollow Knight I remember that day like my name my phone was broken so I used my ps4 to watch videos when I saw your video about how Hollow Knight players beat any rad and today I beat HK 45m:37s but I didn't record it thinking it's going to be bad like my other runs so thank you
This was awesome i love your Speedrunner vs hunter vids, ive watched all of them besides the one were you got claw before dash i hope to see more of this keep up the good work!
One thing I think would be a funny version of this would be hunters being allowed to enter boss rooms, but they have friendly fire and must mute when they enter a boss room, so instead of being a normal boss fight or an unfair gang-up it's a balancing act of how many hunters should attack before they're hurting each other more than Fire. I know from the Godhome Among Us thing that you can handle one PVPer while fighting a boss.
So glad to see a return of this series! I've been watching a lot of the other ones lately and have enjoyed all of them!
I loved the ending fight since fire had to fight hollow knight along with 4 hunters simultaneously like how the hollow knight was fighting the player and radiance.
that looked like epic fun lol!
Fire love ur content on YT and Twitch amazing video i love how this manhunts are like a mix of epic and funny this is my favorite series because of that also one tip is that i think you should add restrictions or some plots to the run soo is way more interesting... if u dont do that there is np you can do wathever u want. Good video
Fire hiding in the corner of Resting Ground's tram room had the same tension I felt hiding from Samus-X in Metroid Fusion
This was so much fun to watch. I was so invested in seeing you succeed.
Ah, how much I missed these. They're really entertaining. GG!
Wooohoo! I'm so glad you haven't forgotten this game, it's so fun! Thank you, fireborn
It'd be really cool to see one of these where the Hunters get a constant lifeline, but the lifeline is just some person who doesn't know Hollow Knight but who gets to hear all your sounds, trying to replicate them. Imagine someone just going "oh there's a lot of thumping" "That's probably gruz mother!" and that sorta thing. I think it'd be a unique test of player knowledge lol
"In case he tries to pull something funny"
*Dies in acid*
I really love the music choices for these, nostalgic
I love the music choices in this hunt XD
oh my god its the reptile stan
wow. Watching the mechanics on display is amazing
ok these guys mightve not had the skills to beat you but their callouts were insane, on your tail for the entire game
15:44
Good to know fire is just as human as the rest of us. HK is unforgiving💀
would be nice to see a randomizer version of this, would make the runs a lot more dynamic as to what you are able to do
Fire has been insanely good in this one, I felt every second of this masterpiece of a video
Fire's getting better at these hunter runs. Quite literally unstoppable 🤣
Blue seeing through Fire's "hiding in the architecture" trick is so funny
Honestly, he had an extra half hour. If they keep this time frame, he could go for shade cloak and approach fog canyon or queens garden from an unexpected angle. Plus get abyss shriek.
this chases so intense, but at the same time so enjoyable, thanks for the upload
It was so cool to see players that I've watched grow as runners compete against the God Gamer himself!
you are playing against some insanely good teamplayers!
It was good but it needs a rule change perhaps based on the hunters because the whole time was just domination, they killed you only once the whole time and there was a single digit amount of close calls
I noticed a thing during watchers spire where hunters could stop all proggress by just standing under a required elevator lmao
Dang, Fire's been practicing his PVP
22:16 big brain play with the elevator
fun to see this kind of content again
the skill level required is crazy, props to you fire!