Thanks for this Elle. Appreciate you staying so on top of keeping your guides and walkthroughs relevant to the shifting “meta” even as Blizzard continues to tune and break things. Many hpals like myself rely on your insight! Truly invaluable to the community 💕
I just hit ksm and have to say I have you to thank for it! I was always a h pal player just watching your videos has helped me big time. I just hit 2200 and I wanna push for 3k this season. I'm currently running 8 at no problem right now. Slowly getting better and better ! Much appreciated! I have been holding back on my UA-cam channel for a while now and I feel I wanna get back into it again. Thanks for your help my friend!
Ty for the awesome guide, i am brazilian player since 2011 and never played as healer, but i decided play to holy pala and you is helping me even thought i need try to speak english. Thanks for video and channel!
19:42 I just realized how hard for me that is, I'm usually so focused on player healthbars during those spikes of damage that I don't focus on the proper positioning to cast virtue, thank you for pointing that out
I imported your AC lightsmith build last night and before that I really was never a fan of it. Two extra buttons and at least two more buffs and look out for. But hot damn the hps was insane, nearly doubling my solar throughput and my team's hp never was in actual danger. Even when I was just testing and made lots of rotational mistakes, like forgetting to mix in spenders in between CS during AC, I still felt like I was as OP as Resto Sharman. xDD Shoutout to your videos will watch more of your streams and work harder in being a better HPal!
Wow what an amazing video! Very informative, loved this one. In the future could you do one on raid healing for AC lightsmith? (a similar style commentary - walkthrough )
Good to see that my build that I made was almost the same, the only difference I like to use the talent to heal passive with consecration it is a good sustainer, Lightbearer is bugged, the big problem /with the build is the when there is big pulls positiong is very difficult due to the AOE dlamage, nice video, and always light smith since the beginning.
I play herald and lightsmith depending on the key. I’ve been going LS for mists/nw/siege and Herald for all other keys at really high key levels. I generally suggest AC LS for all keys up to +14 or higher when you start valuing Herald higher to counter extreme burst damage patterns of super high keys
@@EllesmereGaming Thx a lot. I was wonderung because you demonstrated LS on the the +14 mists, and then I saw the +16 which was also mists but with herald XD
this is super interesting as someone that was hoping to not have to play lightsmith :D I would love the same for a mythic boss as well (ovinox preferably^^)
Got a question tho. Would you need to kick casting during AC? Seems like whenever AC is propped it's during heavy damage and heavy casting as well sometimes.
Would you recommend doing the caster build to kinda learn to heal as holy pally. I feel like being in melee can be kinda punishing sometimes. Also would it be better to farm M0 to get my vers up or just try to push and see what gear it get? Setting at 10k crit 14.5k haste 3.5k mastery and 4k vers. I know i need higher vers but seems like my stats make it hard to push mythics
Hey there, thanks for keeping us updated throughout the season. DId I notice a Lightsmith Weakaura there? Similar to the Blessing of Seasons reminder? I would be very interested in that.
I never see you use flash, holy light or hammer of wrath, and consecration is casted when u cast judgment due to talents, and the only spender you use is word of glory and shield og righteous, right? I like the build tbh, im just trying to cut off some of the abilities i dont have to use. can u help me?
Thank you for this guide Elle. I am currently having trouble with this week's affix "Devour". I mostly play in pugs and most of the time, dps never use their cleanses for removing the debuf. That forces me to use Divine Toll to top up the group,.. So i am now facing trouble when boss does heavy AOE damage as I dont have AC or DT to heal the group. Do you have any strategy for this please?
Tell your group to cleanse themselves, honestly. That‘s not on you. And when doing ur own keys, choose classes that can dispell and remind them of it beforehand.
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I am in AC and have 2 holy power, an unbufffed CS charge, and HS up. Should I HS spend to buff CS or throw the unbuffed CS? I feel like I’ve had this decision a decent amount.
anyone who uses cell can you please help me...i cant get holy bulwark/weapon to show up as an icon no matter where i add it to. ive tried adding it to external cds, defensives, healers...it wont show up on any party member frame on cell
Is Divine Toll de-emphasized enough that it would be worth taking Divine Resonance for the extra Holy Shock casts versus the CD reduction talent? Also, do you have any weakauras for tracking the Awakening proc? Thanks!
I tried this build in a NW +11 last night. It went fine, and AC healing was really powerful, but it felt so alien to me after the run i swapped back to normal spec for my other keys :D It's odd as i love mistweaver so i would have thought the melee dps to heal style would be fine but i found the weapons stuff super unintuitive and a bit awkward to use.\ Maybe i need to track them a bit better The big question I have though is the whole health share thing. To be me that just seems insanely dangerous. During AOE everyone gets low and if I'm low and the dps my weapon is on gets
I’m sorry. I seem to rmbr that there was a talent which allows your WoG to heal harder if u stood in consecration. Was it removed!? From a healing throughput perspective, there is no reason to cast consecration right?
How can I configure the interface to show which target my holy weapon is on? Because when I activate the AC, the sacred weapon goes automatic on a random target
Do you see this becoming more dominant in m+? I haven't played herald in over a week and have been quite successful - there's the odd dungeon where it feels bad and I feel weaker at correcting mistakes, but the numbers seem good
If we’re discussing the meta, imo it’s the best healer right now to pair with prot Warrior. But I think community perception is rather locked into rsham this tier in terms of being meta. FWIW though I’m 90% sure this build will get nerfed in the coming weeks, interested to see how everything plays out though
@@EllesmereGaming oh yeah, I dont see the bulwark absorbs surviving more than a couple of weeks - way too much safety for not a lot of brain power. But yeah, I'm 100% with you, haven't felt this strong since s1 slands, maybe not even that
Would you say ac lightsmith or hots us better for m+ overall? Also which would you say is better for pugs? If you haven't played lightsmith enough yet to give an answer I understand
You could in some dungeons but I prefer being able to have it available as much as possible. When it’s on cd I have to play much more cautiously so I’d prefer to spend as little time in that state as possible. And I really don’t feel the need for more power with DT, it’s already such a strong cd
@@EllesmereGaming that's a pity. I feel like that would be good QoL. Boss-targeted Wild Growth is so nice for fights like Tred'ova. Actually, I was a SL baby when mists was current, and struggling to heal that boss was how I found out about enemy-targeted WG
OK on my second watchthrough and I have two questions. 1. How did you move the maze navigator? I thought it wasn’t allowed 😂 2. Please link that other WeakAura you have for remembering what you’ve seen 😅
Virtue is for m+, you run Faith in raid. In keys, virtue is incredibly strong for all the damage patterns of dungeons this season. Much more impactful then faith
More damage, easier rotationally, more frequent cooldowns, strong sustained healing, better tank healing and personal survivability. Cons are its low burst healing, low spot healing and low targeted healing. Overall it’s a very strong build rn, esp in raid
Why is Avenging Crusader so controversial amongst HPal players? Watching this video has me interested in the spec for maybe the first time ever. This looks super fun to play.
A lot of players don’t enjoy because it removes all target selection requirements from healers and makes it really brainless. That can be fun for some but for many healers, myself included, the most fun part of healing is target selection and spell priorities. If I wanted to just have a set rotation, ignore party frames and turn my brain off I’d play a dps, so to me AC isn’t super fun. That being said ofc I understand that’s only one viewpoint and there are many who absolutely love this playstyle. That’s why I advocate for both builds being balanced well so they can both be viable options
It's controversial with high end player who want absolute control and precise frame healing/buffing. Usually high end player don't like fist weaver either for similar reason. It's not controversial for the average joe. It's like glimmer gameplay, only high end player loved it
@@EllesmereGaming right now the only way to play mythic raids is AC/LS right? or is herald still good in mythic raid too? i generally prefer herald but now i thibk i must change to lightsmith cause of the heal numbers. what do you suggest ?
no way, i started this season as hpal and all i wanted was AC to be the meta build. Now that i swapped to prot pal, they changed it to AC meta. thanks I guess😂
How how HOW are you pulling so much dps, on dummies, with 627 ilvl, I pull like 250k-300k in AC. Summer i'm sure accounts for some of this and is hard to replicate on dummies but in my keys i'm never moving past 350-400k in aoe pulls. But you have 600k on a double target boss fight, could you follow up with some insights on DPS rotation for Hpally?
Aggressive use of summer, AC, Spamming dps buttons, optimizing damage rotation, heavy shield of the righteous usage, etc. there’s a lot that goes into min maxing damage but practice and understanding how to let your passive healing work for you is the biggest factor
This is a really fun and strong build. I love how much hps and dps we finally have. My fear is that now we will be nerfed. Blizzard likes to nerf HPal. Do you feel like this is a steady build that won't be nerfed?
I believe this build is pretty unhealthy due to how strong hammer and anvil is, and how broken the interactions with Tempered in Battle are. IMO they should fix that, then buff regular Wings so herald can compete again. Both builds being strong is the best outcome of tuning
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Thanks for this Elle. Appreciate you staying so on top of keeping your guides and walkthroughs relevant to the shifting “meta” even as Blizzard continues to tune and break things. Many hpals like myself rely on your insight! Truly invaluable to the community 💕
I just hit ksm and have to say I have you to thank for it! I was always a h pal player just watching your videos has helped me big time. I just hit 2200 and I wanna push for 3k this season. I'm currently running 8 at no problem right now. Slowly getting better and better ! Much appreciated!
I have been holding back on my UA-cam channel for a while now and I feel I wanna get back into it again. Thanks for your help my friend!
Wow this answers so much! Thanks for being a “beacon” for our class (pun intended)
I really appreciate these videos where you explain what you are doing and why. Thank you!
Ty for the awesome guide, i am brazilian player since 2011 and never played as healer, but i decided play to holy pala and you is helping me even thought i need try to speak english. Thanks for video and channel!
Thank you so much for making this! It’s been an interesting adaption switching to this playstyle and the insight you provide is super helpful!
Elle your content has been great for a long time, but these walkthroughs and recent videos have been even better. Thank you.
I cannot express how useful these are Elle. Thanks a lot!
19:42 I just realized how hard for me that is, I'm usually so focused on player healthbars during those spikes of damage that I don't focus on the proper positioning to cast virtue, thank you for pointing that out
Yeah , this in itself is of huge value
This is awesome! Thank you for great video. always learn a lot from your play!
This soooo useful and helps a lot more than random healing guides, thanks for This Ellesmere, Keep it up❤
This was a very welcome and very well-timed walkthrough.
Thanks Ellesmere! This build is killing in both M+ and Raid.
Loving all of the content this season! Would love to see similar breakdowns for raid fights too if you have the time ❤
I imported your AC lightsmith build last night and before that I really was never a fan of it. Two extra buttons and at least two more buffs and look out for. But hot damn the hps was insane, nearly doubling my solar throughput and my team's hp never was in actual danger. Even when I was just testing and made lots of rotational mistakes, like forgetting to mix in spenders in between CS during AC, I still felt like I was as OP as Resto Sharman. xDD
Shoutout to your videos will watch more of your streams and work harder in being a better HPal!
So happy lightsmith is doing so well. Loved this ht the whole time
Wow what an amazing video! Very informative, loved this one. In the future could you do one on raid healing for AC lightsmith? (a similar style commentary - walkthrough )
Just started healing with Hpaly for the first time since MoP this answered a lot of questions and taught me things I didn't know and was messing up.
finally, was waiting for that guide
Just what I wanted. THANK YOU ❤
Awsome walk through, thank you!!
Paladin class blessed to have Elle!
Appreciate what you do
Te quiero mucho Elle, muchas gracias por estás guías! THANK YOU.❤
Good to see that my build that I made was almost the same, the only difference I like to use the talent to heal passive with consecration it is a good sustainer, Lightbearer is bugged, the big problem /with the build is the when there is big pulls positiong is very difficult due to the AOE dlamage, nice video, and always light smith since the beginning.
Great guide Ellesmere!
Elle you are awesome i hope to see you in MDI you deserve it
No MDI for me this season, really enjoying just playing some hpal and focusing on content creation right now :)
it is so enjoyable to play literally dealing dmg jus covers most of the healing its an honestly great spec
The other benefit of using shield of righteous during AC is you don't need to move your mouse 😁
Twitch overlay hidding Detail skill input but great video thanks for sharing
Great video as always. I saw you reverted back to herald on the +16 key you did. Would love to hear your thoughts on that decision. Thanks a lot
I play herald and lightsmith depending on the key. I’ve been going LS for mists/nw/siege and Herald for all other keys at really high key levels. I generally suggest AC LS for all keys up to +14 or higher when you start valuing Herald higher to counter extreme burst damage patterns of super high keys
@@EllesmereGaming Thx a lot. I was wonderung because you demonstrated LS on the the +14 mists, and then I saw the +16 which was also mists but with herald XD
this is super interesting as someone that was hoping to not have to play lightsmith :D
I would love the same for a mythic boss as well (ovinox preferably^^)
What talent causes Crusader Strike CDR from SoTR that you mention at 16:10 ?
That’s just baseline shield of the righteous functionality for Holy Paladins
@@EllesmereGaming TIL. ty!
Great video! My healing is much better now. Are these still the updated talents?
Got a question tho. Would you need to kick casting during AC? Seems like whenever AC is propped it's during heavy damage and heavy casting as well sometimes.
Would you recommend doing the caster build to kinda learn to heal as holy pally. I feel like being in melee can be kinda punishing sometimes. Also would it be better to farm M0 to get my vers up or just try to push and see what gear it get? Setting at 10k crit 14.5k haste 3.5k mastery and 4k vers. I know i need higher vers but seems like my stats make it hard to push mythics
Hey there, thanks for keeping us updated throughout the season. DId I notice a Lightsmith Weakaura there? Similar to the Blessing of Seasons reminder? I would be very interested in that.
Yeah it’s part of my hpal cooldowns weakaura on wago: wago.io/hpalCooldowns
I never see you use flash, holy light or hammer of wrath, and consecration is casted when u cast judgment due to talents, and the only spender you use is word of glory and shield og righteous, right? I like the build tbh, im just trying to cut off some of the abilities i dont have to use. can u help me?
Hey Ellesmere! Hope you get to read this, Do you have a link for your Holy Armaments weak aura? Love you videos btw.
Thank you for this guide Elle. I am currently having trouble with this week's affix "Devour". I mostly play in pugs and most of the time, dps never use their cleanses for removing the debuf. That forces me to use Divine Toll to top up the group,.. So i am now facing trouble when boss does heavy AOE damage as I dont have AC or DT to heal the group. Do you have any strategy for this please?
Tell your group to cleanse themselves, honestly. That‘s not on you. And when doing ur own keys, choose classes that can dispell and remind them of it beforehand.
@@princezuko179 Thank you! Its hard nowadays to get a good players in PUG who can listen to people. :(
Excellent professor :) tks
Do you happen to have a stand alone WA for awakening? Show when to use?
Do you include Shield of Righteousness? (The one that heals for 2% of max health). Or is it not worth it?
a question for AC Lightsmith is a 2h with int acutally better ? if you get the myth trac weapon from stonevault with int? (or which instance)
What's your take on 2H intell weapon with this build ?
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I am in AC and have 2 holy power, an unbufffed CS charge, and HS up. Should I HS spend to buff CS or throw the unbuffed CS? I feel like I’ve had this decision a decent amount.
I’d prob just throw the CS, spender, judgment, empowered CS
anyone who uses cell can you please help me...i cant get holy bulwark/weapon to show up as an icon no matter where i add it to. ive tried adding it to external cds, defensives, healers...it wont show up on any party member frame on cell
Add it in the indicators tab and make sure you’re using the correct spell ids:
Sacred Weapon: 432502
Holy Bulwark: 432496
Dawnlight: 431381
Is Divine Toll de-emphasized enough that it would be worth taking Divine Resonance for the extra Holy Shock casts versus the CD reduction talent? Also, do you have any weakauras for tracking the Awakening proc? Thanks!
No imo always better to have more DTs than the extra holy shocks. DT is already a strong enough cd as is
any plans on doing the same style walk through for The Solar Crusade build?
I’ve done a grim Batol early in the season if you go back in my videos, but I’ll do another one soon! Maybe a CoT
@@EllesmereGaming yes plz!
Is ac rly healing more with beacon? I thought i dont
I tried this build in a NW +11 last night. It went fine, and AC healing was really powerful, but it felt so alien to me after the run i swapped back to normal spec for my other keys :D
It's odd as i love mistweaver so i would have thought the melee dps to heal style would be fine but i found the weapons stuff super unintuitive and a bit awkward to use.\
Maybe i need to track them a bit better
The big question I have though is the whole health share thing. To be me that just seems insanely dangerous. During AOE everyone gets low and if I'm low and the dps my weapon is on gets
I’m sorry. I seem to rmbr that there was a talent which allows your WoG to heal harder if u stood in consecration.
Was it removed!?
From a healing throughput perspective, there is no reason to cast consecration right?
Great walkthrough vid! I dont see the awakening tracker on your screen, is it in your WA package?
Yes it anchors itself to my holy power weakaura so if you don’t have that you have to give it a new anchor in the display tab
How can I configure the interface to show which target my holy weapon is on? Because when I activate the AC, the sacred weapon goes automatic on a random target
Depends on your party frames, but all frames have a way of adding tracking buffs
Do you see this becoming more dominant in m+? I haven't played herald in over a week and have been quite successful - there's the odd dungeon where it feels bad and I feel weaker at correcting mistakes, but the numbers seem good
If we’re discussing the meta, imo it’s the best healer right now to pair with prot Warrior. But I think community perception is rather locked into rsham this tier in terms of being meta. FWIW though I’m 90% sure this build will get nerfed in the coming weeks, interested to see how everything plays out though
@@EllesmereGaming oh yeah, I dont see the bulwark absorbs surviving more than a couple of weeks - way too much safety for not a lot of brain power. But yeah, I'm 100% with you, haven't felt this strong since s1 slands, maybe not even that
Anyone know the spell id's for Bulwark and weapon in cell, I cant get them to show up.
Spell ids for tracking hero talents on party/raid frames:
Sacred Weapon: 432502
Holy Bulwark: 432496
Dawnlight: 431381
Would you say ac lightsmith or hots us better for m+ overall? Also which would you say is better for pugs? If you haven't played lightsmith enough yet to give an answer I understand
AC LS probably your best bet for most key levels and pugging, but Herald is good too so it's really whichever you prefer
Thanks for the reply. I've never tried lightsmith but it looks like alot of fun. I'm probably to give it a shot. Thanks for the guides!
Legend!!! ty
Lightsmith or herald is bstter spec to play? I ask for both m+ and raid
AC LS is typically better in raid, while both are strong in m+
@@EllesmereGaming ok ty ill try LS also and see
what is that addon you use to track everyones cooldowns on the spells? it's not baked into Cell now is it?
OmniCD
If you use divine toll less frequently, would you consider using the 1 min version for more power in each cast?
You could in some dungeons but I prefer being able to have it available as much as possible. When it’s on cd I have to play much more cautiously so I’d prefer to spend as little time in that state as possible. And I really don’t feel the need for more power with DT, it’s already such a strong cd
@@EllesmereGaming Makes sense. I will give it try today and compare them.
Is casting Virtue on the boss an option like it is with Wild Growth?
Nope that’ll just auto cast it on yourself
@@EllesmereGaming that's a pity. I feel like that would be good QoL. Boss-targeted Wild Growth is so nice for fights like Tred'ova. Actually, I was a SL baby when mists was current, and struggling to heal that boss was how I found out about enemy-targeted WG
Muchas gracias Ellesmere!
How are you able to get bulwark/weapon to show up on Cell? I tried adding the spell ID but it wont show up.
Make sure you're adding the buff, not the spellID of the actual ability:
Sacred Weapon: 432502
Holy Bulwark: 432496
Dawnlight: 431381
@@EllesmereGaming Awesome, looks like I was using the spell id. Thank you!
I need to know what ability that phone sound is for 😂
Phone sounds are important dispels haha
I have a question about the awakening proc, does it only heal if u are already in AC or it will heal no matter what ?
It will heal no matter what, the judgment that procs the AC counts as AC healing
@@EllesmereGamingso it heal the 260% of its dmg even when im not in ac?
Thanks Ellesmere! gg's !!
OK on my second watchthrough and I have two questions.
1. How did you move the maze navigator? I thought it wasn’t allowed 😂
2. Please link that other WeakAura you have for remembering what you’ve seen 😅
1. Just update the auto weakaura, the latest version can be moved around and resized in the custom options tab.
2. wago.io/hVLym_eLv
Is this spec viable in raid? Thanks for your unbreakable support of the Holy Paladin!!!🙏🙏
Yes absolutely! it is our best build in raid
Thank You!!
Why virtue who take a gcd in this build over faith ?
Virtue is for m+, you run Faith in raid. In keys, virtue is incredibly strong for all the damage patterns of dungeons this season. Much more impactful then faith
I haven’t even tried lightsmith yet. Is there any benefits to it? Commenting so I can watch video later I’m working
More damage, easier rotationally, more frequent cooldowns, strong sustained healing, better tank healing and personal survivability.
Cons are its low burst healing, low spot healing and low targeted healing.
Overall it’s a very strong build rn, esp in raid
@@EllesmereGamingsounds awesome I’ll give it a try. Thank you!
Why is Avenging Crusader so controversial amongst HPal players? Watching this video has me interested in the spec for maybe the first time ever. This looks super fun to play.
A lot of players don’t enjoy because it removes all target selection requirements from healers and makes it really brainless. That can be fun for some but for many healers, myself included, the most fun part of healing is target selection and spell priorities. If I wanted to just have a set rotation, ignore party frames and turn my brain off I’d play a dps, so to me AC isn’t super fun. That being said ofc I understand that’s only one viewpoint and there are many who absolutely love this playstyle. That’s why I advocate for both builds being balanced well so they can both be viable options
It's controversial with high end player who want absolute control and precise frame healing/buffing.
Usually high end player don't like fist weaver either for similar reason.
It's not controversial for the average joe.
It's like glimmer gameplay, only high end player loved it
@@EllesmereGaming right now the only way to play mythic raids is AC/LS right? or is herald still good in mythic raid too? i generally prefer herald but now i thibk i must change to lightsmith cause of the heal numbers. what do you suggest ?
no way, i started this season as hpal and all i wanted was AC to be the meta build. Now that i swapped to prot pal, they changed it to AC meta. thanks I guess😂
any chance we can get ur cell profile
It’s part of my UI pack! uipacks.wago.io/pack/ellesmere
How how HOW are you pulling so much dps, on dummies, with 627 ilvl, I pull like 250k-300k in AC. Summer i'm sure accounts for some of this and is hard to replicate on dummies but in my keys i'm never moving past 350-400k in aoe pulls. But you have 600k on a double target boss fight, could you follow up with some insights on DPS rotation for Hpally?
Aggressive use of summer, AC, Spamming dps buttons, optimizing damage rotation, heavy shield of the righteous usage, etc. there’s a lot that goes into min maxing damage but practice and understanding how to let your passive healing work for you is the biggest factor
thx!
hey ellesmere whats your cell profile
This is a really fun and strong build. I love how much hps and dps we finally have. My fear is that now we will be nerfed. Blizzard likes to nerf HPal. Do you feel like this is a steady build that won't be nerfed?
I believe this build is pretty unhealthy due to how strong hammer and anvil is, and how broken the interactions with Tempered in Battle are. IMO they should fix that, then buff regular Wings so herald can compete again. Both builds being strong is the best outcome of tuning
I hate playing this build so much, nerf this shit so pally can feel good again.
Some of us really enjoy both builds. Rather than nerfing id much rather each be viable with their own unique strengths and weaknesses.
I’d like both builds to be viable personally but I’m with you on hating having to play this build lol