I think superman broke that armour full of spikes ot atleast broke in some places where Arthur could get through with his spear I have to look the fight scene again but I'm pretty sure that's what happened Bc before Diana and Arthur couldn't get through But Clark was just beating him with his hands and laser eyes over and over again he was most definitely trying to break the armour of Steppenwolf and I think he did in some parts
I don't think the Alfred WW tea scene was a 'mansplaining' situation - I think he was just uncomfortable not being in a 'butler' role- Especially to someone he knows is a legitimate princess (something he would highly regard as a brit)
Exactly. That was the joke of the scene. Took my dumbass a bit to realize but he was basically getting her to not make the tea with each step. It’s why she laughed when she realized
@@Belnick6666 It isn't fake as it is a real thing that happens, it's just super overblown and applied to anytime a man explains anything to a woman on the internet. A guy engineer explaining basic engineering shit to a lady engineer is an example of actual mansplaining.
I always wished Cyborg out of the film in Josstice League. I'm a casual fan. Didn't care how important he was; he just wasn't interesting. Just came off watching the Snyder Cut. Him and his father were among the best characters in the film. Him, his father, and The fucking Flash of all people. That reversal of time was absolutely stunning!
@@TheStraightestWhitest See I'm still not sold on Ezra Miller's Flash, he wasn't as annoying here as he was in Josstice League but he's still just not doing it for me. Maybe it's that weird ass run of his. The big surprise for me this time around (besides Cyborg) was Aquaman, I gave zero fucks about him in Josstice League (didn't even bother going to see his solo film) but in this version I kind of liked him.
The reason flash touches the girl gently is because he has to be careful manipulating things while in speed force otherwise he could literally explode her if he touched her the wrong way. that’s why they showed the shoes ripping and the concrete rippling as he moved
I actually liked that scene. I took barry's character as a shy introvert to begin with, so zack snyders idea to express how barry felt about this attractive woman with no words, but relishing every milisecond in her presence was a great idea to express that. It also told me how powerful he is for being able to save her without breaking a sweat at the same time! Great scene
I agree, I thought it was good myself. The scene seemed to be a setup for his own movie and his relationship with who I assume is Iris. Its as though hes this odd introvert but in the speedforce he gets to take things in and be himself without fear of being seen. He simply moves the hair outta her face to take a mental snapshot oh her.
Supercharged Superman back to life, supercharged Cyborg into the Unity, saved probably a few hundred civilians, killed a good amount of Parademons, gave Wonder Woman her sword in a clutch fight against Steppenwolf, and reversed time itself to save the entire world when Darkseid took it. Yeah he didn't do anything.
His concern with Cyborg when Silas died and him indicating to Flash that he did care, and his banter with Flash was just beautiful and super endearing.
Whedon basically turned him into Chris Hemsworth Thor. The idiot. just rehashing everything he did in the Avengers. right down to the jokes, team banter and comedic moments
one of the rare scenes I miss from josstice league was aquaman sat on the lasso. was a great emotional character moment of his which he has zero in this new cut (he only had 1 in the other cut so not a massive downgrade).
for such a huge fan of Superman, its weird you skip over the whole Jor-El and Pa Kent voiceover section. that for me was one of the best parts of that whole thing
Not to mention that it was the moment when the Hope theme finally plays triumphantly instead of just being hinted at whenever superman is mentioned or is still trying to remember who he is.
Flash talking awkwardly to the lady at the dog place was a point of his plot. His dad wanted him to find a job and Flash wanted to make his dad proud but was having trouble finding a job. That scene is just an example of an interview gone bad
@@aaronbarlow4376 Not really. The flash was moving so fast that the parademon would’ve hit him if he had his eyes closed. Only reason flash couldn’t dodge it is because he couldn’t slow down. I’m going to assume that this version of the Flash isn’t fast enough to phase instantly when being hit so it makes sense.
@@zachrobinson6801 So moving fast makes him an easier target? Right........unless you mean he's running in a circle so fast he's basically at every point in that circle almost simultaneously meaning shooting at a point in the circle repeatedly will likely hit him, which is not beyond consideration, especially as they appear to be plasma bolt type ammo and not speed of light lazer rounds, so the plasma bolt would be in his path for long enough for him to run through it but then would it harm him if he's moving faster than it's wavelength? Heat is vibrational frequency and the Flash is faster.
Martian Manhunter made Lois go back into the world to help with Clark because he knows the Earth needs Superman more than him. If Lois never had that conversation she wouldn’t be at the memorial to stop Clark’s wrath
@@awildmoose6541 he has the best telepathy in the universe, he linked everyone to resurrect Superman and made sure the love of his life was around when he was reborn, if you’re going to be a dick atleast be an intelligent one
Right but why didn't he help after that? ...couldn't he have helped stop superman when he was on a rampage, or fight against steppenwolf. Perhaps he just wanted to remain absent for the moment but then he talked to batman later? Maybe he just didn't want to freak everyone out or risk being found by dark seid or steppenwolf
@@battlefrontgameplay1388 I think he explained it rather well at the end tbh. Like he said he realized he had a stake in this world and needed to fight for it himself. He helped set up Supermans resurrection, but realized after almost losing the world that he needed to fight for it himself rather than manipulate things from the background.
At the start of the film, in the village, the girl is singing and she is taking Aquaman’s shirt is because they basically worship him, he is a god of the sea to them. They are an Aquaman cult and that’s why the chief tries make Bruce to leave: to protect Arthur.
OK, why was that necessary to put in there? Does it add anything to the movie? No, its just Zack Snyder continuing his Superman is God theme only with Aquaman. And Bruce still finds him so it was pointless.
@@GeneralKenobi75 You didn't get it then. They were singing for him as a way to honor him for taking care of them. It's not unusual in many cultures to praise someone in song.
@@DmonHiro Again, doesn't add anything to the movie. Also, it kind of portrays them as the stereotypical Natives worshipping an outsider as a god. Not to mention its just another unsubtle example of Snyder trying to deify superheroes because "deep".
@@GeneralKenobi75 because it gives context of how people see powerful beings like Arthur, especially after Superman’s death. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Nothing wrong with Alfred, he's a great guy. They are just forgetting his purpose. It's not to be smarter than Bruce Wayne, it's to offer moral support. Alfred in Batman Begins and the Dark Knight was always giving him life lessons and analogies. He is more of the guide on pulling Bruce together. To help Bruce gather his thoughts
That Alfred always had a speech... Hey Alfred, what's for breakfast?...... Alfred: the morality of man,.... You have to make choices...... 30 mins on......i will not bury another Wayne
Even in the original Tim Burton Batman movies, Alfred was always providing philosophical advice as well as being the best butler maintain the mansion as well as the Batcave
guess you dont need that when you're a psycho eh? Than its official: Snyder's Alfred is actually Batman's wife, and its covering both that and Gordon role
Darkseid wasn't Darkseid yet. He was Uxas, son of Heggra. He doesn't officially become Darkseid until he gains the omega power, which he screws his brother over to get, and then his mother to assure he's never challenged.
@@CS-pg4go as far as I remember, it was a kind of inheritance or birthright passing on. His brother was older, and was going to accept it as 1stborn, but Heggra schemed with Uxas.
I think black suit was meant for healing as like in the comic books . He chose that suit instead of the standard blue one. Then he flew towards the sun first before going to Alfred. The logic is due to the black color's nature that it absorbs light. So this suit absorbs more sun light ultimately making him stronger or in this case recovering from death.
that is actually the exact opposite of logical: if superman's body needs to absorb the energy from the sun, then a transparent/translucent suit is what makes the most sense since it will allow the sun's rays to go through it
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 we’re going by comic book logic here, where a super powered individual absorbs ultraviolet rays in order to heal and powered up. The comic book writers states that’s how the black suit works, so we go by that, not real world logic.
Yeah, he basically hit the bullet instead of the other way around. It's the equivalent to throwing a rubber band into a fan blade on max speed. There is a such thing as too fast.
That's why the one para-demon kept getting focused on, he was learning the timing of Flash's passes. The idea being they took so long to bring Barry in that one of the grunts got a lucky shot after figuring out how much to lead his target.
It is world’s better. The snot nosed “critics” for certain online magazine outlets writing articles claiming it was the exact same movie with a few added scenes either A: Didn’t actually pay attention to the Whedon or this version, or B: Have absolutely zero interest in watching any comic book adaptation and were forced to do so for their “job”. I read one that made me laugh out loud when it said the opening scene proved to audiences that you needed to go back as far as Batman Forever to understand everything that was going on. This was by far the best DCEU movie to date and was so much better than Whedon’s version. Some may say WW is tops, but, for me, the climax of WW compared to the climax of Snyder’s JL do not compare. One is meh and the other was “holy shit I gotta see that again”. Snyder shined in that scene alone. The pacing, editing, shot selection, and the score was so much better. Having Supes still conflicted as the battle began and needing to get that final jolt from his fathers was much better than the “Loise make me weak in the knees, I must go save everyone now” flip of the switch that Whedon went with. Not having them win easily as soon as Supes shows up because Steppenwolf feared him and his minions attacked him because of it, actually having them fail, the world in the brink of being destroyed, and needing Barry to reverse time was a great scene to watch unfold. So much so I watched that scene three times before moving on to the epilogue. You get that rush of “oh shit, Supes is here. It’s about to get real”, followed by “oh shit, they’re not winning, what’ll they do now”, before going “OH SHIT BARRY IS REVERSING TIME!”
I didn't actually interpret the flash scene as groping. I thought he was just being very gentle so as not to, you know, rip her arms off because he's working with ridiculous amounts of energy.
I just remembered Quicksilver saying when he held Magneto's head that he had to hold him so he doesn't get whiplash. That is what I took from that Flash scene, he gently put her down.
But I thought that the Flash's speed was different from other speedsters. He is able to manipulate the speed force to protect himself and anyone within it.
I actually preferred the team dynamic and interaction in the Snyder cut. Binge watched the entire saga today and I loved it! Bravo Zack! He deserves so much respect. Most people don't even know that he's not making a single dime from this and only did it because he thinks the fans deserve better.
@@lordofthebuckets2676 The Snyder cut is pretty great. So was 300 and MOS. How many movies have you directed or produced Spielberg? You ought to show respect where it's warranted. You'll learn that when you become a man though.
It actually felt like a team this time around. Everyone had a clear role, collaborated well, Snyder was particularly better at directing their fights. They also each felt more consistent with their own characters - none of the weird ticks that Whedon put added to em in the theatrical cut
@@RS-kt6bo lol I'm no snyder hater but come on man. How many films has he directed? You have to be a film director now to criticize a film? Do you have to be a world class chef to determine if your dinner was good or not?
@@RS-kt6bo Oh there are far, FAR too many things wrong in MoS to call it a great film. Johnathan Kent suggesting to Clark that keeping your identity secret is more important than saving lives. Clark being a dick and impaling a man's truck for being an asshole at his job.... also how do you IMPALE A MAN'S TRUCK AND NO ONE HEARS IT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS? Clark purposefully throwing enemies through buildings and into objects that explode. Clark choosing to take out the Terraforming device in the Indian Ocean instead of the one ACTIVELY WRECKING METROPOLIS. It had no defenses and would have taken seconds. Clark identifying more with a race of Kryptons that he has never known growing up WHEN NORMAL HUMANS HAVE RAISED HIM FROM BIRTH. The superman references to "he is god". That was never the intention for Superman. He is supposed to be a superhero that is more human than alien. Hell they couldn't even bother to have him assume an "alter" ego in terms of a different stance and a nervous voice similar to Christoper Reeves Superman. Let's talk about Zodd. His plan to get Superman on his side is to show him THAT HE PLANS TO DESTORY HIS HOME PLANET JUST SO KRYPTONIANS DON'T GROW UP IN PAIN? Let's talk about what "growing up in pain" entails. Clark got used to his powers when he was in middle school. Zodd and his team were able to adapt to Earth's environment IN LESS THAN AN HOUR. Clark choosing to crash through Zodd's ship, and causing it TO CRASH THROUGH MULTIPLE BUILDINGS IN METROPOLIS. Clark choosing to take the first encounter with Zodd from the cornfields of Smallville RIGHT INTO THE HEART OF THE TOWN. The flip flop of Clark "I need to lay low" but also "I need to save people". Let's talk about how two random soldiers happen to walk into the ONE BAR CLARK IS WORKING AT and he overhears the exact information he needs to find a downed Kryptonian ship. The Kryptonian ship had apparently been on earth for 20,000 years.... and was later confirmed to have been the ship that Supergirl crashed in.... SO SHE IS DEAD. Is that enough reason for the movie to be considered 5/10? Because I have a few more on top of this.
They could have made that scene a bit more personally challenging for him though... Seeing his parents.. and himself (which was awkward) Just stood there acting weird, in apocalypse world being all creepy like "we can make you whole again, just let the world get blowed up." That was supposed to be alluring to him? It was like the zod nightmare sequence in kals mind where zod tries to convince kal to side with him by showing him nuking the planet and burrying kal in a sea of the skulls of all the dead humans.... As if that was ever going to convince him. Yet more tone deaf Snyder edgyness
@@ge2719 you specifically said "a bit more personally challenging" yet you finish saying snyder was *completely* tone-deaf.... talk about tone deaf in your own argument...
@@javieremoya he is completely tone deaf. Seeing his parents stood there in apocalypse word didnt come off as personally challenging AT ALL the tone deaf nature of the scene meant it wasnt personally challenging at all and so if it had been personaply challenging for the haracter it would have been better. Is that so hard to understand? You reappy think i contradicted myself by saying hes tone deaf and then pointing out a scene in which it was tone deaf???? What?
@@ge2719 it wasnt supposed to be challenging....the 3 sorcerer's were banking on cyborg being fragile as he had been for most of the movie...having it be "challenging" in 30 seconds is what we call rushed growth....he did the growth over the course of the movie which is why he didnt immediately fall for the tricks
lool. He's right. Come on man from 11 to 100011 is not tripling her money. If you were a superhero her family would be dead. You're not happy with 33 dollars? no wonder yer a single mom.
I liked it as well, looked bad ass. Hated right at the end he left 1 rock on accident and then yells a helpless "NO" like... u react faster than a nano second lol, the time it took to say NO, you could of broke it thousands of times over.
@@itllBuffGaming yeah but it seems like he has to go into speed mode first. A realistic limitation. He also seems inexperienced lol. he cant always be in speed mode or he would burn himself out.
In defence of the parademon hitting the Flash. He was going so fast that he practically existed in every point of that circle he was running, so the parademon just had to shoot one point of the circle and then Flash ran into the blast zone.
exactly he exists at all points on that road going the speed he's going I'm surprised he didn't get hit sooner but it did look like flash was alternating his speed at one point if you listen you can hear it too sounds like he's running irregularly. don't know if that was intentional or not.
32:50 - Aquaman never says he hates Amazons. He says he hates Atlantians just as much as Amazons do. So the scene actually DOES work to set up chemistry between them.
I feel like y’all should start watching movies twice before review. Lot of things they criticized had a reason to be so, obviously revealed in the comments here.
Yea like the conversation between Aquaman and Diana in the graveyard. They say you can't bring anything back from the darkness without losing something. Vick brings back Superman, but loses his father, little things like that you catch on your second watch
I feel like the fact that Barry Allen is awkward af is why that scene was ok. He's jobless. I thought he was stealing the hotdog for himself, honestly.
He’s awkward because he’s reacting instinctively, which is why the speed force kicked in as soon as he sensed danger. By the time he had time to think about it, that’s when he realizes he revealed himself to Iris and jets out of there.
@@FFMolasses Im pretty sure hes been looking for jobs to study in Criminal Justice to save his Dad from false charges. The fact that he looked unprepared and a lil awkward on his interview shows he wasnt succesful in the other jobs he applied. He cant just get multiple jobs while studying. That was the reason his father was shocked when Barry announce he has a job job related to Criminal Justice Studies. Because he finally nailed one.
@@FFMolasses ... missed the lines about having other jobs. Its 100% believable that Barry would do that for his pops, considering what he was willing to do for his mother In other story lines. In the end (of this story) the guy saved everyone in that fight, including Supes.
Granny Goodness is the one who developed and trained all of Darkseid's Warriors. That is who the old lady is. Granny Goodness is this twisted character who tortures children for Darkseid in here orphanage to make them murderous monsters.
Flash was suppose to awkward and make us feel awkward, even his dad in the movie was basically telling him to get a life. Notice how Flash started to calm down and actually gotten better communicating, even though he slips every now and then.
@@ARod3 he was the Asian scientist with Dr. Stone throughout the movie. I heard him say "Ryan" once and was wondering if they meant Atom, towards the end (during Dr. Stone's narration) they say his full name and mention his expertise in nano tech
I liked the part of Flash saving the girl... and if you look closely he wasn't "touching her" he was very delicate on the way he was moving her to place.
the entire movie he is delicately touching things because he's going at super speed, i think they didn't get that....also they missed out on the part where it's plainly stated darkseid made steppenwolf kill his own family
i felt that this was better on average than the Avengers movies,i liked the fighting way more here it felt more real. while Avengers feel like how the fighting would be form a kids prespective with dolls.
@@user0-c5v Could have been. This version was just edited together from everything that was shot(maybe Joss Whedon respected some of Zack Snyders scenes?). That being said Zack Snyder only shot the nightmare sequence and Flash's reverse time scene in the months before release of this version.
I thought he hit him immediately at first as I didn’t like that convenience, but I rewatched and saw that there were so many cuts of the parademon trying to shoot at barry so I liked it
Now that you say it, yeah, that makes sense. It could have been conveyed more clearly, but yeah. I just assumed that particular parademon deserved a promotion, had he not had his head blown up! LOL
Your boy is gonna have to watch the movie again. Steppenwolf uses the spider multiple times and he was about to use it on cyborgs father before cyborg intervene.
lol no, haha, really, you thought suddenly the Joker fears anything??? Just cause of an F bomb.... You didn't get the sarcasim.. This Joker used to be Robin, this one is trully messed up, oh how I wish they continued that scene
The comment on the Martian Manhunter scene. I felt this served 2 mechanics, 1. It was a refresher for the audience on this character's connection to Superman and Lois in MOS and BVS. He was a dick in MOS to Superman when the whole time he has been observing him on Earth because he's an alien hiding from the world and discovers there's another alien being even more powerful than himself. 2. Because of their connected stories in MOS and BVS, MMH knows that Lois is deeply scarred by Clark's death and he takes the most comfortable form for her to cope both to get her motivated to work again. In addition, he wants keep her distracted knowing that they are going to have to resurrect Clark when she's clearly not ready for that. Add to the fact that they teased about them having a baby and how she would feel that all people of Batman would want to bring him back to life after what he did to him in BVS. It's very subtle nods that showcase Snyder's care for his vision of this trilogy.
No. Sorry no. The martian manhunter thing is dumb and makes no sense. Why was General swanwick not interested in Louis’ bullet? Surely if he’s martian manhunter, and cares about superman and louis, he would have gone out of his way to help. MM should not have been in the movie, he served no purpose and had no motivation
@@ericsonofjohn9384 don’t think you’re remembering well, he is the one that helped her with the bullet. He literally came back to her and told her it was from Luther 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Martian manhunter is on par with superman, wonder woman is way stronger than she is in the movie, she can actually put up a hood fight 1 v 1 against superman
The flash iris scene was one of my favorite scenes in the movie. It wasn’t awkward at all and it totally worked. Y’all just overly sexualized the situation 💀
That scene was ridiculous. First, only his shoes explode--what, is the rest of him not moving just as fast? But I suppose if Flash was naked in slow mo, that would indeed be awkward. The sesame seed took a small eternity to fall from the bun just fucking lmao. Ezra Miller was kinda just too goofy imo. At least they took out the "Dostoyewski" bit from the 2017 release.
@@ScottPress you bruh the flash scenes were great you’re just stuck in the past. It’s a comic book movie big fella so why you getting caught up in the irrelevancies.
@@ScottPress Flash was 100% too goofy but his shoes are always the first to go. I mean he literally destroyed the ground when he slightly stopped. His regular ass shoes are the barrier between his feet and the ground... theyre getting destroyed.
@@ScottPress bruh its a movie, not a physics project....I don't get why some people keep overanalysing stupid shit... If you said that scene was cringy or goofy, I would respect your views even personally I don't think it was, but only shoes explode, who gives af. it still looks cool af..
I like this Alfred and Bruce where they feel more like equals. Not like a Sherlock explaining to Watson. Makes me sad we won’t see this Batman anymore.
@@Soccercrazyigboman His sword has a Halo emblem (if I recall it started in H2). It's Rhas Al Ghul/league symbol but started from Halo or looks extremely similar to it.
To me it's the way I decide for a game or a movie: if the spoiler gets me stoked to watch/play myself I know that the media is if great then at least fun. So far I haven't been wrong.
17:59 The reason Barry and Iris look at each other, and stare at each other, is because they are inexplicably drawn to one another through the Universe. In every timeline, Barry and Iris always find one another, and there's this pull on them. It's explained in the comics, and Snyder said that there would be comic callbacks in his version of Justice League.
@@CoolSmoovie just a different script, the actor is good enough and was deep into the part. The vibe that i got is that he is also capable of pulling a Joker, just need some good direction and dialogue.
Batman did strategize the plans throughout. The reason why it works for Batman to not be the confident guy he was is because you're dealing with a vulnerable "i made mistakes" Batman. Like anyone who has lost A LOT of people and feel maybe guilty for it as well as guilty for how they allowed vengeance to overtake them...This is low key a Bruce saying "I apologize" throughout the movie and reclaiming the trust he needs from people.
That bomb had a 4 block radius explosion, woulda killed 100s if not a few thousand... so she kills the bad guy buy literally vaporizing his ass for even thinking of doing that & trying... loved it wonderwoman is nice but she can kill u if she wants... he chowse death
@@GonzoRevolutionary She could still disarm/kill the guy while he was reloading if she's so fast to the point of deflecting his burst of bullets. She was just being cocky and showing off with no regard to the building or people that will have to pay/fix that later.
@@TamakiMike "she could've done a million other things" isnt a valid argument....the goes without saying.... so just take the L, stay confident in your take you didnt like it personally.. but dont try to rationalize it from a clearly "objective POV"
@@GonzoRevolutionary she could’ve simply super sped right up to him and broke his neck, instead she chose to destroy part of the museum as well. Just because the bomb would’ve killed more doesn’t give her the excuse to also use reckless explosions.
@@javieremoya she could’ve done a million other things is actually a 100% valid argument??? why the hell would it not be? if you’re writing a story and going for superheroes in real life you would wanna write in that they show concern for environmental destruction ESPECIALLY when the entire concept of batman v Superman (this movies prequel if you didn’t know) was based on. Superman and the reckless destruction of the cities. So Wonder Woman would want to keep that in mind. Sorry YOU can’t accept criticism lmao
He wasn't Darkseid in the flashback scene against the old gods. He was Uxas. Uxas was powerful, but nowhere near as powerful as he was when he became Darkseid.
@@SrGuedes1 That's a reason why I like Flash so much over Quicksilver. Y'know, Flash has a reason as to why the people he saves would not become a mist of blood due to the force of his speed. In X-men First Class, when Quicksilver breaks Magneto out from that compound, the guards in the room in that one scene would explode from the sheer force extruded from his speed.
I think Aquaman’s badass scenes are him taking on Steppenwolf on his own, plus holding back the ocean under Gotham Harbor. Remember, this is a pre solo-film Aquaman
A bit confused. Is this pre solo film Aquaman or does this movie happen in the middle of the Aquamn film? In this movie he already knows his way to the Atlantis Stronghold and he already knows Orm.
The fact that these guys are defending whedons shitty scenes and trying to downplay every major new scene added that actually improved the movie is absolutely ridiculous.
They “leave aquaman down” because his movie comes out afterwards and is all about him coming to terms with his atlantean heritage lmao . I thought that was obvious
I loved it. I find it sad that everybody's brain goes immediately into the gutter these days. The hot dog never registered as anything sexual in my mind.
@@nikpalagaming8610 isnt it just slow tune to contrast the fact that he actually moves hella fast? It's like the oldest trick in the book. Not like it's there to set *da mood*.
In the scene were Barry saves Iris West, Barry wears his Flash shoes and in his anxiety to save her he destroys the shoes. He did not groped her, he carefully put her down to NOT kill her with his powers (not only his speed but also the lightning). The accident wasn’t the fault of Iris AT ALL but of the truck driver. The love song played because Iris West is not only Barry’s love of his life but truly an integral part of what makes Flash The Flash as an inspiration instead of just a superpowered human. It’s a very important scene about Barry because in that scene we see both Barry the person and Barry the superhero but not The Flash yet.
@@awildmoose6541 😅 Did they ever actually state that it was Iris in the scene? I don't remember it being verbal, perhaps ZS wanted to show the connection (mutual) rather than state it. We already know Iris and Barry are a thing and that she's a huge part of his story anyway. Perhaps it was exaggerated because it was just a visual message 🤔 I didn't get from it creepy though.
@@lucyblu3129 he literally just met her for the first time and used his super speed to touch her face without her concent. If thats not creepy to you then you are a creep as well. Disgusting.
@@lucyblu3129 Iris has been light browned skinned in a few different adaptations of the flash recently. Especially the most popular one on the CW. It’s kind of implied. It was corny I’ll admit but the flash is just as corny on the CW and people love it.
There is a scene at the final battle when the portal is open and it shows Darkseid in a pose with his hands are behind his back, it is a milli second but if you watch closely you can see it.
Yeah I hoping for the same thing.. I think he does it when the portal opens at the end before he turns around to stare down the league but it’s barely a second... this Darkseid is a lame compared to the comics and animated versions... we did get to see an Omega beam; which was cool...
That parademon shooting the flash makes all the sense... Flash is going so fast that he's occupying every point in the loop he's running... The parademon literally couldn't miss.
@@legiongamer-works-podcaster Joe doesn't even know what Superman's fortress of solitude is called. He literally called it superman's cave in this video. Among many other straight up wrong shit. You may want to "retract" your thoughts there bud.
@@عقبةبننافعبنالقيسالفهري Ya he says he cuts them off to keep the video short but finds time to say whatever he wants to say even if the others have better points.
This movie makes me hate Hollywood. This version of justice league was epic and makes me want to see Dark Side. Unfortunately we will never get it. I can’t believe 2 versions of the same movie can be so different. Josh’s version is the equivalent of Michael bays version of Titanic vs the original. I’ll watch a 4 hour movie like this. This makes me want to see more DC Universe movies. Dammit man...
Well, to me this is Darkseid, basically chilling on Apokolips while the heroes are beating the snot out of his underlings. "Eh, whatevs, I got more underlings."
All fans need to reach WB doing our part to convince them to not vanish the original plan. I want the sequel but I REALLY WANT Arkham Affleck Batman movie.
@@dullie100 You're gonna have Batman fight steppenwolf? Lmaooo. How realistic would that be. One thing is add to batman for the future would be the JL build him a hell bat suit but then people would just call him a DC iron man.
41:25 This moment actually made perfect sense to me and was pretty cool. Once Flash began moving at around the speed of light in a circle, he was basically at every single point of the circle at any given moment. At that point, it would have been nearly impossible to miss him
If WW can keep up with bullets, it should be easy for the Flash to see and dodge any projectile, but I guess he was blinded by his own light streak, idk.
@@mihai10stoica WW was expecting those bullets and tracked them on purpose, Flash was concentrated on running and did not look around, and I doubt he would notice a single cannon aiming at him from hundreds of meters away.
@@mihai10stoica he wasn’t trying to dodge bullets, he was running in place to build up an electrical charge. If you notice in the scene, the parademon is timing the shot to hit Flash, but he wouldn’t have hit him if Flash was trying to dodge
true. the time it would take for him to run around once would be shorter than it would take for the shot to "miss" him so he would literally be running into it.
I think Jared had a more sinister tone when talking with batman. His laugh might be due to the toll the apocalypse had taken upon him. But the way he said "don't send a boy wonder...to do a man's job" was pretty fucking chilling.
ToLL apocalypse had on him? IT WAS A DREAM. So batman had a vivid dream about a alternate future he knows nothing about where he has a very specific conversation and his brian accoints for how the other people voice may have been changed? Its a stupid scene snyder wanted to film
@@ge2719 it really seemed more like premonition and not a dream, showcasing exactly what synder wanted to do in the second justice league. I don’t know how you can watch a superhero movie and be so literal regardless.
@@wolfhowell7 so then why is brice wayne now have magic future premonitiin super powers? You think it's okay for a super hero movie to just have a regular human character who has no powers to just suddenly for no reason have accurate visions of the future? Yes its clearly just stuff snyder wnated to do in future movies and he just filmed it and jammed it in before a shot of bruce wayne waking up both times and exoects people to just be fine with it. Well sorry but its things like that which make it clear snyder has no clue what hes doing. Hes just doing what "looks cool". Watching interviews with the guy that is abundantly clear. Why are you defending terrible writing?
“Flash’s scenes with his dad were better in the other one”. Patently false. And “Alfred was mansplaining to WW about how to make tea. She’s 5,000 years old she knows.” Except she didn’t. She was about to do it wrong and he corrected her. I like the guys, but sometimes I wonder how much they actually pay attention to the things they watch with as many details as they get wrong.
Yeah, she's 5000 years old, but for 4,890 ish of those years, she was stuck on a single island with no contact with the outside world. I seriously doubt they had access to the same kind of tea or ever brewed tea the same way the English do. I am 35 years old and love hot tea, but I couldn't brew a proper cuppa if my life depended on it. It was simply a scene with an Englishman, a butler no less, being triggered because someone was attempting to brew tea incorrectly. People need to stop with the mansplaining crap and actually think before reacting.
Plus.....HE IS THE BUTLER. It sounds like these guys are nit-picking random scenes. Alfred is used to doing that kind of stuff....and especially since Diana is royalty....he probably felt very inclined to do it for her.
Someone else may have mentioned this but the reason Superman turns evil in the dream sequence had nothing to do with the mother box resurrection, and he wasn't even using the black suit there. He turns to Darkseid's side because of the death of Lois. You can see he is holding her burnt up corpse when Darkseid touches his shoulder. That's why Lois is the key.
@@danielmillward9947 I can only imagine what a nightmare it is watching a movie with AJ. I bet he talks all the fucking way through about what he would like to be happening on screen at that moment and makes dumb jokes about what's going on.
@@danielmillward9947 maybe I need to be more open minded but if I'm paying to watch a movie on the big screen and get that cinematic experience, I prefer to sit there in silence paying attention to every little thing for the full duration.
@@bobchipman7737 it wasnt some small detail it was literally a las vegas sign in your face screaming "NOTICE THIS NOW NOTICE HEY" and yall acting like its deep or some shit
If the theory that the Joker is Jason Todd then I think he is really mad because batman says that he will honor what harley quinn asked of him. Because being the person that causes him to become so batman have the gall to say so.
I think the reason they start singing and the girl takes care of Aquaman's clothes when he enters the water is because of the whole Greek mythology thing, and they look at Aquaman as a God, not because he railed her the night before 😂
That part was fine. They just turned out creepy with him touching her hair for no reason. But the setup for the scene was stupid. A guy in a giant truck barreling down a road just doesn't look where he's driving for a whole minute. And iris does the same, drivers of starting at Barry and not looking where she's driving. That was very snyder style. Cool looking scene that is just terribly written
I think this movie was Just a longer Justice League with some more Post Credit scenes and a darkside Cameo with him doing NOTHING. This movie sucks ass
This "review" is why I can't take internet reviews seriously, everyone here just nods and agrees with each other on the scenes they like and dislike, with almost no disagreements. Doesn't help that Joe's bias to Superman clouds his judgment throughout this entire film - claiming he doesn't even want to see more because Supes may stay evil from the Knightmare scene? Just judge the film on its own merits.
How can you be a big super fan but not want evil sups vs good sups. Like he's flawed in thinking every superman in DC comics is a good guy so get over it.
i get that. but theres literally a part of the review where they disagree on the martha part. also they cant please everyone in that regard. aj has this horror(?) movie review where they “argued” a lot, and the video got a lot of dislikes and like 300 more of “i hate when you guys disagree” doe what did u really expect in a contained channel review like this? if you want other opinions go to other channels? sure there are moments but generally speaking friends like the same things..
Exactly, his skin is also still not hardened or stone like due to the omega effect as Uxas so he is not invulnerable like he would be after taking the Darkseid persona.
@@tempest1624 The temple art from 5, 000 years earlier called him Darkseid, so while he may still have been the "Uxas" character in power level and abilities, he was already using the Darkseid name.
The reason why the girl was smelling Arthur’s shirt is because Arthur brings the village people food and they look to him as their savior. It’s not really explained but I thought it was obvious.
@@williamcronshaw5262 It kinda is necessarily to imply that these people need Arthur and that is why he was originally reluctant to join Bruce. If they didn't give two shits about him, he wouldn't have reason to stay with them either.
I completely buy that the parademon could hit Barry when he's literally running in circles lmao. At first it was frantically shooting at this guy who seems to be everywhere at once, but then the camera stays on its face for a second. It was thinking "oh he's just going in a circle at the speed of light basically. If I just shoot in his path, he has to hit it."
Logically if you run at speed of light Ina circle you are basically at every point of that circle. So even if the paradenon had shot anywhere in the circle he would have hit Barry
The Spider is a Part of his Armor, so that thing is literally formin off his armor when he puts it on the faces. Some kind of alien technology. And he uses it on every single one of his vistims for interrogation if u look close.
Flash isn't caressing her. Did you not see what kind of damage a pointed finger touch does to the glass? He is doing what he has to, to not hurt her. @angryjoe
Thank you! They showed what effect going that speed does to glass, concrete, etc. he only needs to tap Diana’s sword in order to redirect it into her hands, I thought it was obvious that he was just being gentle in bringing her down smoothly
Yah I love these guys but I usually see these movie reviews more as discussions since they sometimes miss key points in the movies. I mean Joe gave Suicide Squad and 8/10 or something 😂
So Superman knocked down Steppenwolfs HP to almost zero and then Aquaman jumped in with a kill steal? MY MAN!
Facts
Wonder woman wanted to pull a thor too with thanos on going for the head
I think superman broke that armour full of spikes ot atleast broke in some places where Arthur could get through with his spear I have to look the fight scene again but I'm pretty sure that's what happened
Bc before Diana and Arthur couldn't get through
But Clark was just beating him with his hands and laser eyes over and over again he was most definitely trying to break the armour of Steppenwolf and I think he did in some parts
“Not impressed” that boi supes just toying around at 50% lol
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728 lol supes just bullying now
I don't think the Alfred WW tea scene was a 'mansplaining' situation - I think he was just uncomfortable not being in a 'butler' role- Especially to someone he knows is a legitimate princess (something he would highly regard as a brit)
Exactly. That was the joke of the scene. Took my dumbass a bit to realize but he was basically getting her to not make the tea with each step. It’s why she laughed when she realized
Then he went along and actually made the tea himself and serves it to her.
what is a mansplaining? one of those fake made up words by the leftists extremists/feminists?
Aj is trying to get his woke fans happy
@@Belnick6666 It isn't fake as it is a real thing that happens, it's just super overblown and applied to anytime a man explains anything to a woman on the internet. A guy engineer explaining basic engineering shit to a lady engineer is an example of actual mansplaining.
I can't believe how much they improved Cyborg's story, he's basically the heart of the film.
I mean yes..zack said he was supposed to be the heart of the movie many times..
Yeah was looking forward to cyborg story. Was solid addition
Cyborg story is ripped out of the animated movie Justice League War.
I always wished Cyborg out of the film in Josstice League. I'm a casual fan. Didn't care how important he was; he just wasn't interesting. Just came off watching the Snyder Cut. Him and his father were among the best characters in the film. Him, his father, and The fucking Flash of all people. That reversal of time was absolutely stunning!
@@TheStraightestWhitest See I'm still not sold on Ezra Miller's Flash, he wasn't as annoying here as he was in Josstice League but he's still just not doing it for me. Maybe it's that weird ass run of his.
The big surprise for me this time around (besides Cyborg) was Aquaman, I gave zero fucks about him in Josstice League (didn't even bother going to see his solo film) but in this version I kind of liked him.
Alex is going to watch the birth of his first child and be like, “yeah that didn’t work for me at all, I felt it was a bit forced”
bofl
Lol
*Proceeds to push the baby back in*
"Now do it once more. More natrual this time."
Perfect comment, bravo.
@@williamzou8833 lmfao
The reason flash touches the girl gently is because he has to be careful manipulating things while in speed force otherwise he could literally explode her if he touched her the wrong way. that’s why they showed the shoes ripping and the concrete rippling as he moved
He was caressing and rubbing her face. Still doesnt make sense
Yea... i guess they dont realize that.
@@nimitz3453 no he wasn’t
I actually liked that scene. I took barry's character as a shy introvert to begin with, so zack snyders idea to express how barry felt about this attractive woman with no words, but relishing every milisecond in her presence was a great idea to express that. It also told me how powerful he is for being able to save her without breaking a sweat at the same time! Great scene
I agree, I thought it was good myself. The scene seemed to be a setup for his own movie and his relationship with who I assume is Iris. Its as though hes this odd introvert but in the speedforce he gets to take things in and be himself without fear of being seen. He simply moves the hair outta her face to take a mental snapshot oh her.
“Flash had less to do in this movie” yeah.. he only saved the whole world.
I know, right?
These guys are fucking clueless it’s ridiculous sometimes
Completely ignored one of my favorite scenes where he speeds above everyones head and stop them from being crushed by rubble.
Supercharged Superman back to life, supercharged Cyborg into the Unity, saved probably a few hundred civilians, killed a good amount of Parademons, gave Wonder Woman her sword in a clutch fight against Steppenwolf, and reversed time itself to save the entire world when Darkseid took it.
Yeah he didn't do anything.
@@SupervisedTragic its funny when fanboys defend garbage films
I disagree about Aquaman. I actually feel like this version makes him a little more human. He was just a straight meat head in Weedon’s cut.
for sure
His concern with Cyborg when Silas died and him indicating to Flash that he did care, and his banter with Flash was just beautiful and super endearing.
Yeah I felt like it even added mor character to his solo movie. His arc was humbling and more human then any of theirs I think.
Whedon basically turned him into Chris Hemsworth Thor. The idiot. just rehashing everything he did in the Avengers. right down to the jokes, team banter and comedic moments
one of the rare scenes I miss from josstice league was aquaman sat on the lasso. was a great emotional character moment of his which he has zero in this new cut (he only had 1 in the other cut so not a massive downgrade).
for such a huge fan of Superman, its weird you skip over the whole Jor-El and Pa Kent voiceover section. that for me was one of the best parts of that whole thing
Not to mention that it was the moment when the Hope theme finally plays triumphantly instead of just being hinted at whenever superman is mentioned or is still trying to remember who he is.
Joe is honestly moron, he will say for almost any franchise "one of my favorite", but really his knowledge is basic at best.
@@Buraz93 ?
Yeah I was surprised he didn't say anything more about it! I was looking for his excitement 😅
@@ry_j7452 Well, the movie was four hours long.
Maybe he will make a new video for that part some day?
I love the scene where Barry manipulate the speed force and literally saves the whole world.
The only good Flash scene
I also liked the scene where he almost saves the kidnapees from falling rubble
Yeah they dont get it
Is that what happened? I didn't fully get it until later. He was using the SF to rewind time, right?
That's why Cyborg said "It's too late" .
Yes but it was a bit too convenient at point he all of sudden does that!
Flash talking awkwardly to the lady at the dog place was a point of his plot. His dad wanted him to find a job and Flash wanted to make his dad proud but was having trouble finding a job. That scene is just an example of an interview gone bad
And an (arguably unnecessary) intro to Iris.
@@gaelofariandel6747 I don't think so. Meeting her opened up Barry's character in my opinion.
@@gaelofariandel6747 - Not for a sequel, which was the idea.
My name is Troy too, so of course I gave you an uplike based on that alone. Troys have to stick together. lol
Yeah, the part that sucked was Ezra
I actually liked the talk between batman and joker, two dudes with nothing to lose
Yes it was one of the best conversation pieces in the film. Just having Joker reference Robins death was satisfying
@@MrSuperjing5 Beyond satisfying. The whole movie was awesome but that scene just took it to a new level.
It was amazing
I did too but Leto is dragging the scene down for me
these dudes are just clueless most of the time
Sometimes the "bad" scene is bad because you don't pay attention.
I mean, it was 4 hours long. I definitely get it.
I agree
Yea I noticed they did that a lot like hmm maybe you should’ve took a break to regain focus
they do this a lot, they hate stuff just because they didn't get it. That's why i rarely watch any of their movie reviews.
Joe is the guy that's giving u a rundown of a movie he saw buzzed.
listen that Parademon that shot Flash when he was running around the place, that guy deserves a raise
IKR shooting anything moving is hard. AC valhalla trying to shoot bad guys moving laterally is a nightmare.
@@aaronbarlow4376 Not really. The flash was moving so fast that the parademon would’ve hit him if he had his eyes closed. Only reason flash couldn’t dodge it is because he couldn’t slow down. I’m going to assume that this version of the Flash isn’t fast enough to phase instantly when being hit so it makes sense.
@@zachrobinson6801 So moving fast makes him an easier target? Right........unless you mean he's running in a circle so fast he's basically at every point in that circle almost simultaneously meaning shooting at a point in the circle repeatedly will likely hit him, which is not beyond consideration, especially as they appear to be plasma bolt type ammo and not speed of light lazer rounds, so the plasma bolt would be in his path for long enough for him to run through it but then would it harm him if he's moving faster than it's wavelength? Heat is vibrational frequency and the Flash is faster.
I'd assume he's so fast that he's nearly in every spot at once. It might be hard to miss him
Well he’s dead so... lol
He wasn't mansplaining tea, he was britsplaining, the British don't joke their tea lol
lol i got that joke! i'm from england i would not leave an american or amazonian person alone to make my tea! lol
Haha I'm a brit, he was bang on. Americans can't make tea for shit
@@HeartlessRival but ww ain’t american
@@FLASHPNT She is not british too
@@FLASHPNT yeah but the people who don't get this joke are....
Martian Manhunter made Lois go back into the world to help with Clark because he knows the Earth needs Superman more than him. If Lois never had that conversation she wouldn’t be at the memorial to stop Clark’s wrath
ah yes classic martian future seeing
@@awildmoose6541 he has the best telepathy in the universe, he linked everyone to resurrect Superman and made sure the love of his life was around when he was reborn, if you’re going to be a dick atleast be an intelligent one
Wow I didn’t even notice that thanks
Right but why didn't he help after that? ...couldn't he have helped stop superman when he was on a rampage, or fight against steppenwolf. Perhaps he just wanted to remain absent for the moment but then he talked to batman later? Maybe he just didn't want to freak everyone out or risk being found by dark seid or steppenwolf
@@battlefrontgameplay1388 I think he explained it rather well at the end tbh. Like he said he realized he had a stake in this world and needed to fight for it himself. He helped set up Supermans resurrection, but realized after almost losing the world that he needed to fight for it himself rather than manipulate things from the background.
How the hell are they saying that the flash in this movie had less to do in the original?? Wtf come on guys
I know, he saved the whole multiverse lmao
These guy's are blind
I feel like they said quite a few dumb things in this review.
All ik is that he rated an 8 for josstice league
@@Anton-ob7wm seriously 😳
At the start of the film, in the village, the girl is singing and she is taking Aquaman’s shirt is because they basically worship him, he is a god of the sea to them. They are an Aquaman cult and that’s why the chief tries make Bruce to leave: to protect Arthur.
OK, why was that necessary to put in there? Does it add anything to the movie? No, its just Zack Snyder continuing his Superman is God theme only with Aquaman. And Bruce still finds him so it was pointless.
@@GeneralKenobi75 You didn't get it then. They were singing for him as a way to honor him for taking care of them. It's not unusual in many cultures to praise someone in song.
@@DmonHiro No we got it were just saying it wasnt needed.
@@DmonHiro Again, doesn't add anything to the movie. Also, it kind of portrays them as the stereotypical Natives worshipping an outsider as a god. Not to mention its just another unsubtle example of Snyder trying to deify superheroes because "deep".
@@GeneralKenobi75 because it gives context of how people see powerful beings like Arthur, especially after Superman’s death. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Nothing wrong with Alfred, he's a great guy. They are just forgetting his purpose. It's not to be smarter than Bruce Wayne, it's to offer moral support. Alfred in Batman Begins and the Dark Knight was always giving him life lessons and analogies. He is more of the guide on pulling Bruce together. To help Bruce gather his thoughts
That Alfred always had a speech... Hey Alfred, what's for breakfast?...... Alfred: the morality of man,.... You have to make choices...... 30 mins on......i will not bury another Wayne
Even in the original Tim Burton Batman movies, Alfred was always providing philosophical advice as well as being the best butler maintain the mansion as well as the Batcave
guess you dont need that when you're a psycho eh? Than its official: Snyder's Alfred is actually Batman's wife, and its covering both that and Gordon role
@@gabriel55671 what Jim Gordon has to do with the Batman in a movie of the Justice League
Alfred has always been Bruce's Father figure
Darkseid wasn't Darkseid yet. He was Uxas, son of Heggra. He doesn't officially become Darkseid until he gains the omega power, which he screws his brother over to get, and then his mother to assure he's never challenged.
how does he get omega power? with the anti life equation?
@@CS-pg4go as far as I remember, it was a kind of inheritance or birthright passing on. His brother was older, and was going to accept it as 1stborn, but Heggra schemed with Uxas.
@@davidmeloche3563 oh ok thank you! Would love to see that origin story in JL 2 or something.
^^^ Someone gets it.
@@davidmeloche3563 no I think he got it from killing a previous God, depends on the version tho.
I think black suit was meant for healing as like in the comic books . He chose that suit instead of the standard blue one. Then he flew towards the sun first before going to Alfred. The logic is due to the black color's nature that it absorbs light. So this suit absorbs more sun light ultimately making him stronger or in this case recovering from death.
These dudes completely disregarded the most important things about the movie.
They needed to explain that.
that is actually the exact opposite of logical: if superman's body needs to absorb the energy from the sun, then a transparent/translucent suit is what makes the most sense since it will allow the sun's rays to go through it
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 we’re going by comic book logic here, where a super powered individual absorbs ultraviolet rays in order to heal and powered up. The comic book writers states that’s how the black suit works, so we go by that, not real world logic.
@@TheLouHam so why do the writers even try to use real world logic in the first place?
Flash got hit because he was running so fast he was pretty much everywhere in that circle.
Yeah, he basically hit the bullet instead of the other way around. It's the equivalent to throwing a rubber band into a fan blade on max speed. There is a such thing as too fast.
He was like an electron in an atom's electron field.
Exactly, besides he's following the same route in circles so it really isn't so difficult to hit him.
Schrodinger's Flash
That's why the one para-demon kept getting focused on, he was learning the timing of Flash's passes. The idea being they took so long to bring Barry in that one of the grunts got a lucky shot after figuring out how much to lead his target.
Just got done watching the Snyder’s Cut of Justice League and I thought it was so much better than the original.
you mean the reshoot film
@@MrLaserPony no the original cut
It is world’s better. The snot nosed “critics” for certain online magazine outlets writing articles claiming it was the exact same movie with a few added scenes either A: Didn’t actually pay attention to the Whedon or this version, or B: Have absolutely zero interest in watching any comic book adaptation and were forced to do so for their “job”. I read one that made me laugh out loud when it said the opening scene proved to audiences that you needed to go back as far as Batman Forever to understand everything that was going on. This was by far the best DCEU movie to date and was so much better than Whedon’s version. Some may say WW is tops, but, for me, the climax of WW compared to the climax of Snyder’s JL do not compare. One is meh and the other was “holy shit I gotta see that again”. Snyder shined in that scene alone. The pacing, editing, shot selection, and the score was so much better. Having Supes still conflicted as the battle began and needing to get that final jolt from his fathers was much better than the “Loise make me weak in the knees, I must go save everyone now” flip of the switch that Whedon went with. Not having them win easily as soon as Supes shows up because Steppenwolf feared him and his minions attacked him because of it, actually having them fail, the world in the brink of being destroyed, and needing Barry to reverse time was a great scene to watch unfold. So much so I watched that scene three times before moving on to the epilogue. You get that rush of “oh shit, Supes is here. It’s about to get real”, followed by “oh shit, they’re not winning, what’ll they do now”, before going “OH SHIT BARRY IS REVERSING TIME!”
Not very hard to be better than dogshit
@@bradmyers5354 What critics are saying that? 40% vs 75% says they like it WAY better!
Aquaman making the village girls wet, before jumping in the ocean
Lmaoooo
Gigity
Fr they was sniffin his clothes like bruh
They are worshipping him lol.. Not that he fucked them 😂
He could make a fortune selling his bathwater to those simps
I didn't actually interpret the flash scene as groping. I thought he was just being very gentle so as not to, you know, rip her arms off because he's working with ridiculous amounts of energy.
That's because you were paying attention and not an sjw
I just remembered Quicksilver saying when he held Magneto's head that he had to hold him so he doesn't get whiplash. That is what I took from that Flash scene, he gently put her down.
I understand the concept, but it was the long shots of him just staring at her that made it feel weird
But I thought that the Flash's speed was different from other speedsters. He is able to manipulate the speed force to protect himself and anyone within it.
@@ChefofWar33 I’d have to say it’s because he wasn’t wearing his suit
Arthur calmly saying "All right" instead of being all enthusiastic was one of the best changes made in the movie
Thank God I wasn't the only one who noticed 🙌
When in the movie was that?
@@oscarbobo4733 Right after Superman arrives to help
@@rumpledik2254 thanks!
I actually preferred the team dynamic and interaction in the Snyder cut. Binge watched the entire saga today and I loved it! Bravo Zack! He deserves so much respect. Most people don't even know that he's not making a single dime from this and only did it because he thinks the fans deserve better.
I’ll respect him once he stops making bad films.
@@lordofthebuckets2676 The Snyder cut is pretty great. So was 300 and MOS. How many movies have you directed or produced Spielberg? You ought to show respect where it's warranted. You'll learn that when you become a man though.
It actually felt like a team this time around. Everyone had a clear role, collaborated well, Snyder was particularly better at directing their fights. They also each felt more consistent with their own characters - none of the weird ticks that Whedon put added to em in the theatrical cut
@@RS-kt6bo lol I'm no snyder hater but come on man. How many films has he directed? You have to be a film director now to criticize a film? Do you have to be a world class chef to determine if your dinner was good or not?
@@RS-kt6bo Oh there are far, FAR too many things wrong in MoS to call it a great film.
Johnathan Kent suggesting to Clark that keeping your identity secret is more important than saving lives.
Clark being a dick and impaling a man's truck for being an asshole at his job.... also how do you IMPALE A MAN'S TRUCK AND NO ONE HEARS IT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS?
Clark purposefully throwing enemies through buildings and into objects that explode.
Clark choosing to take out the Terraforming device in the Indian Ocean instead of the one ACTIVELY WRECKING METROPOLIS. It had no defenses and would have taken seconds.
Clark identifying more with a race of Kryptons that he has never known growing up WHEN NORMAL HUMANS HAVE RAISED HIM FROM BIRTH.
The superman references to "he is god". That was never the intention for Superman. He is supposed to be a superhero that is more human than alien. Hell they couldn't even bother to have him assume an "alter" ego in terms of a different stance and a nervous voice similar to Christoper Reeves Superman.
Let's talk about Zodd. His plan to get Superman on his side is to show him THAT HE PLANS TO DESTORY HIS HOME PLANET JUST SO KRYPTONIANS DON'T GROW UP IN PAIN?
Let's talk about what "growing up in pain" entails. Clark got used to his powers when he was in middle school. Zodd and his team were able to adapt to Earth's environment IN LESS THAN AN HOUR.
Clark choosing to crash through Zodd's ship, and causing it TO CRASH THROUGH MULTIPLE BUILDINGS IN METROPOLIS.
Clark choosing to take the first encounter with Zodd from the cornfields of Smallville RIGHT INTO THE HEART OF THE TOWN.
The flip flop of Clark "I need to lay low" but also "I need to save people".
Let's talk about how two random soldiers happen to walk into the ONE BAR CLARK IS WORKING AT and he overhears the exact information he needs to find a downed Kryptonian ship.
The Kryptonian ship had apparently been on earth for 20,000 years.... and was later confirmed to have been the ship that Supergirl crashed in.... SO SHE IS DEAD.
Is that enough reason for the movie to be considered 5/10? Because I have a few more on top of this.
I love the line "I'm not broken" from Cyborg. Shows real growth
They could have made that scene a bit more personally challenging for him though... Seeing his parents.. and himself (which was awkward) Just stood there acting weird, in apocalypse world being all creepy like "we can make you whole again, just let the world get blowed up."
That was supposed to be alluring to him?
It was like the zod nightmare sequence in kals mind where zod tries to convince kal to side with him by showing him nuking the planet and burrying kal in a sea of the skulls of all the dead humans.... As if that was ever going to convince him.
Yet more tone deaf Snyder edgyness
Wasn’t really earned. The line is a good line but nothing heartfelt led up to it, he just said it and it felt thrown in
@@ge2719 you specifically said "a bit more personally challenging"
yet you finish saying snyder was *completely* tone-deaf....
talk about tone deaf in your own argument...
@@javieremoya he is completely tone deaf. Seeing his parents stood there in apocalypse word didnt come off as personally challenging AT ALL
the tone deaf nature of the scene meant it wasnt personally challenging at all and so if it had been personaply challenging for the haracter it would have been better.
Is that so hard to understand?
You reappy think i contradicted myself by saying hes tone deaf and then pointing out a scene in which it was tone deaf????
What?
@@ge2719 it wasnt supposed to be challenging....the 3 sorcerer's were banking on cyborg being fragile as he had been for most of the movie...having it be "challenging" in 30 seconds is what we call rushed growth....he did the growth over the course of the movie which is why he didnt immediately fall for the tricks
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"He basically triples her money..."
Bruh, she had $11 in her account. If he tripled her money, she'd just go up to $33. Your math is appalling 😂
Why would they even moan at that though 😂 the first thing he does with his power's is make sure a mom and her kids have a home and set for life
More than i have in my account 😂
lool. He's right. Come on man from 11 to 100011 is not tripling her money. If you were a superhero her family would be dead. You're not happy with 33 dollars? no wonder yer a single mom.
@@danielmillward9947 Set for life? In reality the Bank would have noticed that and she'd probably end up going to jail.
@@williamcronshaw5262 I'm sure Cyborg found a way to make it look like it was not her doing.
The Black Suit was part of the Healing Process. The first thing he does after walking out with the suit, was fly into space to recharge
Also black color absorbs all wavelengths of light
@@anuragguria008 That makes a lot of sense
Yup. He had to heal from the sun in BvS too after the nuke hit him and Doomsday
Yup, I posted this too. These guys seem to be a little slow don't they? They miss so much and need so much explained to them.
The blacksuit was a throwback to Man of Steel it's Kal respecting his dad and the house of El
The part where the flash is stopping the rocks from falling on the people looked dope asf
He completely glossed over that part...
Probably my favorite flash powers moment.
I liked it as well, looked bad ass. Hated right at the end he left 1 rock on accident and then yells a helpless "NO" like... u react faster than a nano second lol, the time it took to say NO, you could of broke it thousands of times over.
@@itllBuffGaming lmao I thought the same thing. There are a bunch of little things like that I had to let go throughout the movie.
@@itllBuffGaming yeah but it seems like he has to go into speed mode first. A realistic limitation. He also seems inexperienced lol. he cant always be in speed mode or he would burn himself out.
In defence of the parademon hitting the Flash. He was going so fast that he practically existed in every point of that circle he was running, so the parademon just had to shoot one point of the circle and then Flash ran into the blast zone.
It’s like throwing something at a fan, it’s going to hit due to how fast it is.
exactly he exists at all points on that road going the speed he's going I'm surprised he didn't get hit sooner but it did look like flash was alternating his speed at one point if you listen you can hear it too sounds like he's running irregularly. don't know if that was intentional or not.
right, the shot didnt hit flash. flash hit the shot. lol
Thats so goddamn cool
Exactly, even if the demon misses, the flash was going so fast that by the time he ran around back to the same spot he would hit the projectile
Batman for real fought off an entire Army while everyone chillin inside
Chillin..
Indeed! Someone should make a deathcount. He was on fire!
32:50 - Aquaman never says he hates Amazons. He says he hates Atlantians just as much as Amazons do. So the scene actually DOES work to set up chemistry between them.
Stop trying, they don't pay full attention to movie's 😂
@@danielmillward9947 dude,right they are so bad at this, still enjoy them but holy shit they are really bad at paying attention to nuance and details
YOU REALLY DIDN'T MENTION SUPERMAN'S ICE BREATH????? With which he freezes Steppenwolf's axe and puts him in place? Dang.
That part was badass
He got fuckin Sparta kicked
I feel like y’all should start watching movies twice before review. Lot of things they criticized had a reason to be so, obviously revealed in the comments here.
Angry Joe doesn't know anything about movies. It's why this used to be a gaming channel.
@@StabStabStabStabby It's so sad to agree with you on "this used to be a gaming channel". His TLOU2 review was great in last year.
doesn't mean they were done well
Yea like the conversation between Aquaman and Diana in the graveyard. They say you can't bring anything back from the darkness without losing something. Vick brings back Superman, but loses his father, little things like that you catch on your second watch
These jokers should go back to just do game reviews, their news and movie reviews are crap and clueless.
I feel like the fact that Barry Allen is awkward af is why that scene was ok. He's jobless. I thought he was stealing the hotdog for himself, honestly.
But the dogs!
He’s awkward because he’s reacting instinctively, which is why the speed force kicked in as soon as he sensed danger. By the time he had time to think about it, that’s when he realizes he revealed himself to Iris and jets out of there.
he said he had 4 jobs, working on a 5th. he's not jobless, just needs more to help his pops
@@FFMolasses Im pretty sure hes been looking for jobs to study in Criminal Justice to save his Dad from false charges. The fact that he looked unprepared and a lil awkward on his interview shows he wasnt succesful in the other jobs he applied. He cant just get multiple jobs while studying. That was the reason his father was shocked when Barry announce he has a job job related to Criminal Justice Studies. Because he finally nailed one.
@@FFMolasses ... missed the lines about having other jobs. Its 100% believable that Barry would do that for his pops, considering what he was willing to do for his mother In other story lines. In the end (of this story) the guy saved everyone in that fight, including Supes.
Granny Goodness is the one who developed and trained all of Darkseid's Warriors. That is who the old lady is. Granny Goodness is this twisted character who tortures children for Darkseid in here orphanage to make them murderous monsters.
Surprised Superman fanboy, Angry Joe, didn't know that.
Big Barda was trained by Grannie Goodness and Miracle Man from Darskieds world too so maybe they we see em soon in DCEU
@@TVBoomCity Not gonna lie, the new gods are what I like most from DC. They have that Lovecraft-like element to them
No she didn't.
She trained all the Valkyries
@@disturbedone8731 You're thinking of the Furies.
Flash was suppose to awkward and make us feel awkward, even his dad in the movie was basically telling him to get a life. Notice how Flash started to calm down and actually gotten better communicating, even though he slips every now and then.
I actually liked him in Zacks version, I hated him in the other
@@npcimknot958 "Don't make stupid jokes unless they're funny" Chapter 4 Verse 20, Gospel of Humor
@@npcimknot958 As long as they aren't any crappy brunch jokes.
Damn, we really ignoring the fact the Ryan Choi's Atom character was in the movie?
When?
@@ARod3 he was the Asian scientist with Dr. Stone throughout the movie. I heard him say "Ryan" once and was wondering if they meant Atom, towards the end (during Dr. Stone's narration) they say his full name and mention his expertise in nano tech
What a sweet reference! I noticed right away! They also mentioned he worked in Nanotechnology too
I also picked up on that.. I don’t think Joe and the rest are really comic heads like that to get the reference..
@@patrickbernard6640 no I think they are but it happened so fast it could be pretty easy to miss. I know Joe has read tons of superman comics
Part of why we love Alfred so much is the way he is a natural foil to Bruce. A Bruce without Alfred is a bad thing.
His character has practical and emotional value to Batman.
Angry Joe looks like Joss Whedons Superman
Other Joe looks like Zack Snyders Superman
😂😂
I liked the part of Flash saving the girl... and if you look closely he wasn't "touching her" he was very delicate on the way he was moving her to place.
the entire movie he is delicately touching things because he's going at super speed, i think they didn't get that....also they missed out on the part where it's plainly stated darkseid made steppenwolf kill his own family
He didn’t caress the wiener tho 💁♂️
he deffo was tempted to put the sausage in her mouth perv look.. loved how he ran back into the shop playing with the dog
@@bleadzeking1 and by dog you mean wiener
@@bleadzeking1 You have problems
The writers had to have gone crazy with Darkside saying "Fine, I'll do it myself." running through their minds over and over again.
IM CRYIN 🤣🤣😭🤣🤣
I have seen this world turn to dust lol
I literally said that out loud while watching it. Spot on!
The girls sniffing Aquaman uniform gives me Midsommar vibes.
Aw hill naw, that movie fckd me up lolol
@James Lewis Dela Cruz Did not expect to get spoiled for AOT in a justice league video comment section lmao
@James Lewis Dela Cruz THANKS A-HOLE
@James Lewis Dela Cruz *she
LOL I said the same thing while watching
Who’s here after doing an all nighter for this
Shit was amazing
Yep same haha love the new version so good...we now need more..
All nighter and had work in the am
@@sniperight a small price to pay for salvation
i felt that this was better on average than the Avengers movies,i liked the fighting way more here it felt more real. while Avengers feel like how the fighting would be form a kids prespective with dolls.
Lol that girl was creepy af when she started singing and smelling Aquaman's jumper
The craziest thing is I know that was a reshoot based on Arthur’s positioning. I was very confused
Why? I sniff women's panties and that's totally not creepy.
Its called a groupie.
@@user0-c5v Could have been. This version was just edited together from everything that was shot(maybe Joss Whedon respected some of Zack Snyders scenes?). That being said Zack Snyder only shot the nightmare sequence and Flash's reverse time scene in the months before release of this version.
Why does he come to land with a top but when he goes back he takes off his tops?
Barry was running around so fast in a circle that the parademon just had to shoot the path and Barry would run into it himself.
I thought he hit him immediately at first as I didn’t like that convenience, but I rewatched and saw that there were so many cuts of the parademon trying to shoot at barry so I liked it
That's EXACTLY what happened. The sight showed the white blip appear over and over in that one spot. He just shot there and Barry ran into it
thats what i thought,he was running so fast close to the speed of light he was pretty much a wave.
I love how the parademons are intelligent.
Now that you say it, yeah, that makes sense. It could have been conveyed more clearly, but yeah. I just assumed that particular parademon deserved a promotion, had he not had his head blown up! LOL
Your boy is gonna have to watch the movie again. Steppenwolf uses the spider multiple times and he was about to use it on cyborgs father before cyborg intervene.
That's Alex for you. Will literally nitpick the coolest shit.
Batman reintroduced fear into the joker. When he takes the card from joker and delivers his lines, jokers hand is left trembling.
I thought he was angry Batman didn't break.
I thought he was mocking him up until he was like "You almost got me"
@@PNKXOG i thought so too.. lol
I thought joker was sarcastically trembling
lol no, haha, really, you thought suddenly the Joker fears anything??? Just cause of an F bomb.... You didn't get the sarcasim.. This Joker used to be Robin, this one is trully messed up, oh how I wish they continued that scene
The comment on the Martian Manhunter scene. I felt this served 2 mechanics,
1. It was a refresher for the audience on this character's connection to Superman and Lois in MOS and BVS. He was a dick in MOS to Superman when the whole time he has been observing him on Earth because he's an alien hiding from the world and discovers there's another alien being even more powerful than himself.
2. Because of their connected stories in MOS and BVS, MMH knows that Lois is deeply scarred by Clark's death and he takes the most comfortable form for her to cope both to get her motivated to work again. In addition, he wants keep her distracted knowing that they are going to have to resurrect Clark when she's clearly not ready for that. Add to the fact that they teased about them having a baby and how she would feel that all people of Batman would want to bring him back to life after what he did to him in BVS. It's very subtle nods that showcase Snyder's care for his vision of this trilogy.
it was so sloppily done
Well said
No. Sorry no. The martian manhunter thing is dumb and makes no sense. Why was General swanwick not interested in Louis’ bullet? Surely if he’s martian manhunter, and cares about superman and louis, he would have gone out of his way to help.
MM should not have been in the movie, he served no purpose and had no motivation
@@ericsonofjohn9384 don’t think you’re remembering well, he is the one that helped her with the bullet. He literally came back to her and told her it was from Luther 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Martian manhunter is on par with superman, wonder woman is way stronger than she is in the movie, she can actually put up a hood fight 1 v 1 against superman
The flash iris scene was one of my favorite scenes in the movie. It wasn’t awkward at all and it totally worked. Y’all just overly sexualized the situation 💀
That scene was ridiculous. First, only his shoes explode--what, is the rest of him not moving just as fast? But I suppose if Flash was naked in slow mo, that would indeed be awkward. The sesame seed took a small eternity to fall from the bun just fucking lmao. Ezra Miller was kinda just too goofy imo. At least they took out the "Dostoyewski" bit from the 2017 release.
@@ScottPress you bruh the flash scenes were great you’re just stuck in the past. It’s a comic book movie big fella so why you getting caught up in the irrelevancies.
@@ScottPress Flash was 100% too goofy but his shoes are always the first to go. I mean he literally destroyed the ground when he slightly stopped. His regular ass shoes are the barrier between his feet and the ground... theyre getting destroyed.
Yup, Joe has his head in the gutter...everything is sexual lol
@@ScottPress bruh its a movie, not a physics project....I don't get why some people keep overanalysing stupid shit... If you said that scene was cringy or goofy, I would respect your views even personally I don't think it was, but only shoes explode, who gives af. it still looks cool af..
I like this Alfred and Bruce where they feel more like equals. Not like a Sherlock explaining to Watson. Makes me sad we won’t see this Batman anymore.
Apparently we’ll see him in the Flash movie!
@@onnixcarmichele3911 won’t be this version. It will be the josstice league batfleck sadly
I love how Jeremy Irons looks to have been doing an impression of the actor who played Alfred in the Burton-Schumacher movies.
Spoilers: Deathstroke loves Halo 3
Oh shittttt
Who doesn't?
Lol yesssss
Can you explain this joke?
@@Soccercrazyigboman His sword has a Halo emblem (if I recall it started in H2).
It's Rhas Al Ghul/league symbol but started from Halo or looks extremely similar to it.
Angry joe: this an extended spoilers warning
Me: I'll watch anyway
To me it's the way I decide for a game or a movie: if the spoiler gets me stoked to watch/play myself I know that the media is if great then at least fun. So far I haven't been wrong.
I mean if you watched the original you get the whole context of what happens lol
not enough colons. More colons!
exactly lol
Lol true Zack has literally been spoiling the movie for the past 4 yrs now. Including Martian Manhunter lol, which he should have kept secret.
17:59 The reason Barry and Iris look at each other, and stare at each other, is because they are inexplicably drawn to one another through the Universe. In every timeline, Barry and Iris always find one another, and there's this pull on them. It's explained in the comics, and Snyder said that there would be comic callbacks in his version of Justice League.
I actually really enjoyed the batman joker interaction. Its always fun to see batman getting called out on his shit.
That was a much better Joker than Suicide Squad admittedly, but it was like he was doing a Heath Ledger impression almost in my opinion
MrCoolSmoovie Jared leto is just straight up trash.
@@CoolSmoovie just a different script, the actor is good enough and was deep into the part. The vibe that i got is that he is also capable of pulling a Joker, just need some good direction and dialogue.
@@HughJazzTTs as joker or a actor because he's a very good actor.
@@CoolSmoovie a very crappy heath ledger impression, just comes nothing close to heath , like nothing
Batman did strategize the plans throughout. The reason why it works for Batman to not be the confident guy he was is because you're dealing with a vulnerable "i made mistakes" Batman. Like anyone who has lost A LOT of people and feel maybe guilty for it as well as guilty for how they allowed vengeance to overtake them...This is low key a Bruce saying "I apologize" throughout the movie and reclaiming the trust he needs from people.
I laughed out loud when Wonder Woman protected the building from being exploded by exploding it herself
That bomb had a 4 block radius explosion, woulda killed 100s if not a few thousand... so she kills the bad guy buy literally vaporizing his ass for even thinking of doing that & trying... loved it wonderwoman is nice but she can kill u if she wants... he chowse death
@@GonzoRevolutionary She could still disarm/kill the guy while he was reloading if she's so fast to the point of deflecting his burst of bullets. She was just being cocky and showing off with no regard to the building or people that will have to pay/fix that later.
@@TamakiMike "she could've done a million other things" isnt a valid argument....the goes without saying....
so just take the L, stay confident in your take you didnt like it personally..
but dont try to rationalize it from a clearly "objective POV"
@@GonzoRevolutionary she could’ve simply super sped right up to him and broke his neck, instead she chose to destroy part of the museum as well. Just because the bomb would’ve killed more doesn’t give her the excuse to also use reckless explosions.
@@javieremoya she could’ve done a million other things is actually a 100% valid argument??? why the hell would it not be? if you’re writing a story and going for superheroes in real life you would wanna write in that they show concern for environmental destruction ESPECIALLY when the entire concept of batman v Superman (this movies prequel if you didn’t know) was based on. Superman and the reckless destruction of the cities. So Wonder Woman would want to keep that in mind. Sorry YOU can’t accept criticism lmao
He wasn't Darkseid in the flashback scene against the old gods. He was Uxas. Uxas was powerful, but nowhere near as powerful as he was when he became Darkseid.
Yep, if he was darkseid, he'd have the omega beams and everyone would be just dead lol
sounds like Joe likes the Whedon cut more than he thought.
I thought that flash part is because if he just grabbed iris, she will be dead because of his speed
It is
Nah, the speed force would protect her
makes you wonder how much the actor loves telling his boyfriends "I'm going to ram yo ass with lightning speed" in real life....
Speed force protects everything flash touches
@@SrGuedes1 That's a reason why I like Flash so much over Quicksilver. Y'know, Flash has a reason as to why the people he saves would not become a mist of blood due to the force of his speed. In X-men First Class, when Quicksilver breaks Magneto out from that compound, the guards in the room in that one scene would explode from the sheer force extruded from his speed.
I think Aquaman’s badass scenes are him taking on Steppenwolf on his own, plus holding back the ocean under Gotham Harbor. Remember, this is a pre solo-film Aquaman
A bit confused. Is this pre solo film Aquaman or does this movie happen in the middle of the Aquamn film? In this movie he already knows his way to the Atlantis Stronghold and he already knows Orm.
The mother boxes weren’t afraid of Superman, SteppenWolf was, so when Cyborgs dad activated one to save him they didn’t come because of Superman
Yh Cyborg literally said they don’t have feelings they’re basically tools
@Brian Babin because at the time Steffenwolf was their master
@Brian Babin they follow their master’s will and at that point they had a master
The fact that these guys are defending whedons shitty scenes and trying to downplay every major new scene added that actually improved the movie is absolutely ridiculous.
They don’t know true quality even if it hits them in the face
They “leave aquaman down” because his movie comes out afterwards and is all about him coming to terms with his atlantean heritage lmao . I thought that was obvious
At this point I can't tell if Joe is angry or not when looking at the thumbnail
He is not angry for a while now. He only gets lazy angry these days.
Dude I can’t even tell if he’s angry or not in the video lmao
Thats his secret, he is always angry
Why would he be angry when he uses manscaped razors on his nutsack?
I love the top half of the screen. Wonder Woman flying in to kick ass, Cyborg doing the same and then there’s Aquaman just looking like he’s drowning
Wonder woman jumps she does not fly
@@aligmal5031 She flys a bunch in this movie
@@popcornlieutenant No she doesn't. She jumps.
@@ItsJustFox When they charge the stronghold all together WW is flying. She has no arc, she's just going in a straight line. Thats not how jumps work.
The removal of the brunch joke has to be my favorite change
Flash wasn't really caressing so much as being gentle with Iris when saving her.
Was that iris , I didn't know that
I loved it. I find it sad that everybody's brain goes immediately into the gutter these days. The hot dog never registered as anything sexual in my mind.
@@camdecorations9779 if that’s iris thats fucking amazing 😭
@@nikpalagaming8610 isnt it just slow tune to contrast the fact that he actually moves hella fast? It's like the oldest trick in the book. Not like it's there to set *da mood*.
Yea they are lame
In the scene were Barry saves Iris West, Barry wears his Flash shoes and in his anxiety to save her he destroys the shoes. He did not groped her, he carefully put her down to NOT kill her with his powers (not only his speed but also the lightning). The accident wasn’t the fault of Iris AT ALL but of the truck driver. The love song played because Iris West is not only Barry’s love of his life but truly an integral part of what makes Flash The Flash as an inspiration instead of just a superpowered human. It’s a very important scene about Barry because in that scene we see both Barry the person and Barry the superhero but not The Flash yet.
💜👏🏼Yes, I saw it this way too, I loved it!
no. just no. barry can move people at super speed without killing them. it was just fucking creepy.
@@awildmoose6541 😅 Did they ever actually state that it was Iris in the scene? I don't remember it being verbal, perhaps ZS wanted to show the connection (mutual) rather than state it. We already know Iris and Barry are a thing and that she's a huge part of his story anyway. Perhaps it was exaggerated because it was just a visual message 🤔 I didn't get from it creepy though.
@@lucyblu3129 he literally just met her for the first time and used his super speed to touch her face without her concent. If thats not creepy to you then you are a creep as well. Disgusting.
@@lucyblu3129 Iris has been light browned skinned in a few different adaptations of the flash recently. Especially the most popular one on the CW. It’s kind of implied. It was corny I’ll admit but the flash is just as corny on the CW and people love it.
so no one going to talk about why dark side NEVER stood in his pose with his hands behind his back looking badass ?!
Yeah I think Zack wanted to make his own darkseid but darkseid is a perfect character already, should’ve just made him like the comics
There is a scene at the final battle when the portal is open and it shows Darkseid in a pose with his hands are behind his back, it is a milli second but if you watch closely you can see it.
@@IronMan-gx8fo this
He does hit the pose before he turns to face the Justice League you can see him in his pose but it should have been standard
Yeah I hoping for the same thing.. I think he does it when the portal opens at the end before he turns around to stare down the league but it’s barely a second... this Darkseid is a lame compared to the comics and animated versions... we did get to see an Omega beam; which was cool...
That parademon shooting the flash makes all the sense... Flash is going so fast that he's occupying every point in the loop he's running... The parademon literally couldn't miss.
Hmmm is we what ur saying but he also was technically only at one point at one given moment. You can’t say he was everywhere at once
The Martian Manhunter acted exactly as he would have in the comics. He never got involved right away until after he joins the other heroes.
im sad we wont get a JL 2 now with him ;/
None of these people have read a comic in their life. It's very obvious.
@@jasonmontgomery4708 why.............joes a hardcore superman fan i think you may wanna retract that thought..
@@legiongamer-works-podcaster Joe doesn't even know what Superman's fortress of solitude is called. He literally called it superman's cave in this video. Among many other straight up wrong shit. You may want to "retract" your thoughts there bud.
@@jasonmontgomery4708 it's casual friendly content tbh
the fact that my girl chopping steppenwolf's head to send a message to darkseid in the portal IM ALREADY SOLD COUNT ME IN SHE THE BADDEST
Did she not say "she belongs to no one"
That part was supper bad ass! “Here take your boy back sorry for the mess”🤣😂
she is actually badass in this movie just like she was in superman vs batman
@@Marc-dbz Still got slapped by Steppy and Supes though.
That was pure DC animated universe moment
No one talking about how Alex and joe on the left are out of sync
Yeah completely off-putting to the video
I agree and this has happened before
Lmao they look bored as shit its funny but aj talks to much fr but i should say he interrupts to much
@@عقبةبننافعبنالقيسالفهري Ya he says he cuts them off to keep the video short but finds time to say whatever he wants to say even if the others have better points.
I realize that Alex is a guy that can't always enjoy things haha!
This movie makes me hate Hollywood. This version of justice league was epic and makes me want to see Dark Side. Unfortunately we will never get it. I can’t believe 2 versions of the same movie can be so different. Josh’s version is the equivalent of Michael bays version of Titanic vs the original. I’ll watch a 4 hour movie like this. This makes me want to see more DC Universe movies. Dammit man...
Well, to me this is Darkseid, basically chilling on Apokolips while the heroes are beating the snot out of his underlings. "Eh, whatevs, I got more underlings."
We still might get some more snyderverse. Have faith Alfred, Faith!
All fans need to reach WB doing our part to convince them to not vanish the original plan. I want the sequel but I REALLY WANT Arkham Affleck Batman movie.
A Michael Bay Titanic would be lit as fuck, what are you talking about?
We will.
This will bring back the dceu back on track.
I want Harry Lennix more as jonn jonzz
It’s a little jarring having one be out of sync and the other In sync...
Ok it wasn't just me.
I thought it was the weed
Oh ,..,.. its not me! Cool! Was thinking I was seeing something, but glad I was playing while listening so not too bad ! :D
Bruh even tho it was much better than the other JL Batman was garbage just feels useless that can’t stand
@@dullie100 You're gonna have Batman fight steppenwolf? Lmaooo. How realistic would that be. One thing is add to batman for the future would be the JL build him a hell bat suit but then people would just call him a DC iron man.
41:25 This moment actually made perfect sense to me and was pretty cool. Once Flash began moving at around the speed of light in a circle, he was basically at every single point of the circle at any given moment. At that point, it would have been nearly impossible to miss him
If WW can keep up with bullets, it should be easy for the Flash to see and dodge any projectile, but I guess he was blinded by his own light streak, idk.
@@mihai10stoica WW was expecting those bullets and tracked them on purpose, Flash was concentrated on running and did not look around, and I doubt he would notice a single cannon aiming at him from hundreds of meters away.
@@mihai10stoica he wasn’t trying to dodge bullets, he was running in place to build up an electrical charge. If you notice in the scene, the parademon is timing the shot to hit Flash, but he wouldn’t have hit him if Flash was trying to dodge
@@mihai10stoica he was preoccupied with trying to talk to cyborg
Why would he notice that
true. the time it would take for him to run around once would be shorter than it would take for the shot to "miss" him so he would literally be running into it.
Aquaman didn't hate the Amazons, he hated the Atlantians, that's the what he had in common with WW.
I think Jared had a more sinister tone when talking with batman. His laugh might be due to the toll the apocalypse had taken upon him. But the way he said "don't send a boy wonder...to do a man's job" was pretty fucking chilling.
ToLL apocalypse had on him?
IT WAS A DREAM.
So batman had a vivid dream about a alternate future he knows nothing about where he has a very specific conversation and his brian accoints for how the other people voice may have been changed?
Its a stupid scene snyder wanted to film
@@ge2719 it really seemed more like premonition and not a dream, showcasing exactly what synder wanted to do in the second justice league. I don’t know how you can watch a superhero movie and be so literal regardless.
Yeah. I think Jared got redemption.
@@wolfhowell7 so then why is brice wayne now have magic future premonitiin super powers?
You think it's okay for a super hero movie to just have a regular human character who has no powers to just suddenly for no reason have accurate visions of the future?
Yes its clearly just stuff snyder wnated to do in future movies and he just filmed it and jammed it in before a shot of bruce wayne waking up both times and exoects people to just be fine with it. Well sorry but its things like that which make it clear snyder has no clue what hes doing. Hes just doing what "looks cool". Watching interviews with the guy that is abundantly clear.
Why are you defending terrible writing?
I dont know how these guys can crap on the jokers scene. Best exchange in the movie if you ask me.
*SPOILER WARNING * The background score in that climactic flash scene at the end where he is running in time was awesome.
Yeah its ringtone worthy!
Spoiler warning comment in a spoiler discussion video lol
Dude you don't need to put a spoiler warning for a comment on a spoiler discussion video. Everyone comes to this one expecting spoilers.
@@armstrongcanon7833 That'd be so awkward hearing that as a ringtone lmao
You guys are so slow, he said spoiler warning as a joke. He’s talking about a melody. Obviously joking ..
“Flash’s scenes with his dad were better in the other one”. Patently false. And “Alfred was mansplaining to WW about how to make tea. She’s 5,000 years old she knows.” Except she didn’t. She was about to do it wrong and he corrected her. I like the guys, but sometimes I wonder how much they actually pay attention to the things they watch with as many details as they get wrong.
She wasn't wrong, she just didn't do it how Alfred was taught how its done. Not everyone makes tea and coffee the same way
Yeah, she's 5000 years old, but for 4,890 ish of those years, she was stuck on a single island with no contact with the outside world. I seriously doubt they had access to the same kind of tea or ever brewed tea the same way the English do. I am 35 years old and love hot tea, but I couldn't brew a proper cuppa if my life depended on it. It was simply a scene with an Englishman, a butler no less, being triggered because someone was attempting to brew tea incorrectly. People need to stop with the mansplaining crap and actually think before reacting.
Plus.....HE IS THE BUTLER. It sounds like these guys are nit-picking random scenes. Alfred is used to doing that kind of stuff....and especially since Diana is royalty....he probably felt very inclined to do it for her.
Someone else may have mentioned this but the reason Superman turns evil in the dream sequence had nothing to do with the mother box resurrection, and he wasn't even using the black suit there. He turns to Darkseid's side because of the death of Lois. You can see he is holding her burnt up corpse when Darkseid touches his shoulder. That's why Lois is the key.
They have completely missed out key visual moments that for the life of me can't figure out how or why
@@danielmillward9947 I can only imagine what a nightmare it is watching a movie with AJ. I bet he talks all the fucking way through about what he would like to be happening on screen at that moment and makes dumb jokes about what's going on.
@@0saintclark0 but hey everyone view's movie's differently so 😂
@@danielmillward9947 maybe I need to be more open minded but if I'm paying to watch a movie on the big screen and get that cinematic experience, I prefer to sit there in silence paying attention to every little thing for the full duration.
Also it because of the Anti Life Equation
When Jokers hand was shaking in complete anger from what batman said about Harley gave me chills
Its called perfection in details...u have good taste friend
@@bobchipman7737 it wasnt some small detail it was literally a las vegas sign in your face screaming "NOTICE THIS NOW NOTICE HEY" and yall acting like its deep or some shit
If the theory that the Joker is Jason Todd then I think he is really mad because batman says that he will honor what harley quinn asked of him. Because being the person that causes him to become so batman have the gall to say so.
@@awildmoose6541 this is why moose shouldn’t be allowed to go on the internet
@@CyberNorth-fc6wi he’s not wrong tho
Martian Manhunter wasn’t outside the door. He was Martha Kent. Did you even watch that scene?
IKR, they said some bullshit sometimes 😂😂😂
Other Joe and Alex correct him in that same moment.
They are slow lol
Joe ain't smart
Cyborg is far stronger than what they explained in this review. He was a powerhouse.
Honestly, a f*ckin TITAN 🙄💯
yeah like he could collapse the world economy or nuke the hell out of the earth.
I think the reason they start singing and the girl takes care of Aquaman's clothes when he enters the water is because of the whole Greek mythology thing, and they look at Aquaman as a God, not because he railed her the night before 😂
Considering what goes on in Greek mythology, it could easily be both!
@@esquilax5563 true, he himself is half mortal half "god"
I took the whole Iris scene as him being super gentle as he’s moving at super high speed. I thought it was neat 🤷🏻♂️
That part was fine. They just turned out creepy with him touching her hair for no reason.
But the setup for the scene was stupid. A guy in a giant truck barreling down a road just doesn't look where he's driving for a whole minute. And iris does the same, drivers of starting at Barry and not looking where she's driving.
That was very snyder style. Cool looking scene that is just terribly written
@@ge2719 the SEO?
@@nobodyexceptme7794 setup.
This damn Swype keyboard thing is a pain half the time.
You must not drive much if you think people aren't distracted drivers. Especially in automatics.
@@StabStabStabStabby for a whole fucking minute driving down a city street, not being able to see the road at all in a giant truck? are you insane?
I think Martian might’ve been on the sidelines for so long because he’s a pacifist like he was in the animated series
i also think because of the superman backlash in BvS with the whole anti alien sentiment thing.
He was like that in the Supergirl show at many points too.
This movie was so fucking good. Especially that final fight, holy shit
Oh God, in the last epilogue scene, I thought Manhunter was Bizzaro!😁.....Agree! Great movie.
I think this movie was Just a longer Justice League with some more Post Credit scenes and a darkside Cameo with him doing NOTHING. This movie sucks ass
This "review" is why I can't take internet reviews seriously, everyone here just nods and agrees with each other on the scenes they like and dislike, with almost no disagreements. Doesn't help that Joe's bias to Superman clouds his judgment throughout this entire film - claiming he doesn't even want to see more because Supes may stay evil from the Knightmare scene? Just judge the film on its own merits.
Think you’re watching the wrong channel for an unbiased review man. Joe is literally such a big Superman fan lol.
he makes that clear though and he still gave the movie a good scoring clearly saying it was better than the original.
How can you be a big super fan but not want evil sups vs good sups. Like he's flawed in thinking every superman in DC comics is a good guy so get over it.
@@Gyarikku-Ho i thin you’re taking it a bit too serious though he said he wasn’t a fan of it but as long as it’s done well it doesn’t matter
i get that. but theres literally a part of the review where they disagree on the martha part.
also they cant please everyone in that regard. aj has this horror(?) movie review where they “argued” a lot, and the video got a lot of dislikes and like 300 more of “i hate when you guys disagree”
doe what did u really expect in a contained channel review like this? if you want other opinions go to other channels? sure there are moments but generally speaking friends like the same things..
In the flashback Darkseid doesn't have the omega effect so no omega beams he's not Darkseid yet he's still Uaxs.
He's also not wearing the armor he was wearing.
Did the movie specify that. This ain’t the comics. So he could have a different power level.
@@lotaz6839 yea the flashback is prior to getting the omega effect its why he doesn't use that power.
Exactly, his skin is also still not hardened or stone like due to the omega effect as Uxas so he is not invulnerable like he would be after taking the Darkseid persona.
@@tempest1624 The temple art from 5, 000 years earlier called him Darkseid, so while he may still have been the "Uxas" character in power level and abilities, he was already using the Darkseid name.
How did they not like the Joker in Batman scene at the end?? I rewatched that scene like three times, it was great
I know right , I think since they hated Leto so much in the last movie they didn’t even bother to give him a chance in this one.
@@jokesonyou212 fr and the midget with the black superman shirt and the tall dude have no ideal how to review movies
It's very hard to separate Jared Leto from Joker. It's very clearly still Jared Leto and he's tainted by his past performance
his joker is really bad and cringe imo
The reason why the girl was smelling Arthur’s shirt is because Arthur brings the village people food and they look to him as their savior. It’s not really explained but I thought it was obvious.
Yeah they pretty much worship him
yeah i thought it was because they saw him as a god and they basically worship him.
It was definitely implied, still don't think it was necessary.
Doesn’t explain why we had to hear a whole song drawn out
@@williamcronshaw5262 It kinda is necessarily to imply that these people need Arthur and that is why he was originally reluctant to join Bruce. If they didn't give two shits about him, he wouldn't have reason to stay with them either.
I completely buy that the parademon could hit Barry when he's literally running in circles lmao. At first it was frantically shooting at this guy who seems to be everywhere at once, but then the camera stays on its face for a second. It was thinking "oh he's just going in a circle at the speed of light basically. If I just shoot in his path, he has to hit it."
You also see him focus and pin down that Barry kept going around the same turn,he aimed specifically at the turn.
Almost like people don't pay attention to visual storytelling anymore
@@danielmillward9947 exactly
Logically if you run at speed of light Ina circle you are basically at every point of that circle. So even if the paradenon had shot anywhere in the circle he would have hit Barry
@@danielmillward9947 They get used to marvel formula when everything's spoon feed lmao
The Spider is a Part of his Armor, so that thing is literally formin off his armor when he puts it on the faces. Some kind of alien technology. And he uses it on every single one of his vistims for interrogation if u look close.
Flash isn't caressing her. Did you not see what kind of damage a pointed finger touch does to the glass? He is doing what he has to, to not hurt her. @angryjoe
Thank you! They showed what effect going that speed does to glass, concrete, etc. he only needs to tap Diana’s sword in order to redirect it into her hands, I thought it was obvious that he was just being gentle in bringing her down smoothly
@@Cambria358 That isn't how his powers work it's not true to the comics.
@@394mo I know it’s not in the comics but in the context of the movie, it is
He moves her hair out of her face. It was creepy
People said "Superman doesn't kill" and Zack heard "Superman doesn't kill ALONE"
Superman is a sharer.
He "kills" all the time in Smallville
All life is precious. Unless your a 10 foot alien
*communism intesifies*
It's amazing how little you know about movies sometimes. It's no wonder this was primarily a gaming channel in the beginning.
Yah I love these guys but I usually see these movie reviews more as discussions since they sometimes miss key points in the movies. I mean Joe gave Suicide Squad and 8/10 or something 😂
Yes. I love their game comments but they sure as hell aren't film critics.