correct they sell them off, same with the post office when your package is "undeliverable". They stole my coolermaster CPU cooler that was worth $60+ dollars. Said the address was undeliverable. They keep it and sell it.
@@johnames6430 The Chicago and Gary, In. post offices have a very high internally stolen firearm/knife/ merchandise rate. Inspectors find a few of the culprits but most are stolen INFORMATION off the packages and then sold to crooks.
There's cases of shit like that in the news, you just have to look for it. People throw guns and shit in regular old bags and purses, and all it takes is one thing getting in the trigger guard.
ok so one instance in the how many years airports have been active. 37% of America is armed with guns, out of some 320-330 million people + how many of those people are actually traveling airlines with guns, I'd be surprised if its over eve 5%. Even if you pulled up like 40 articles there's still more instances of shark attacks per year in the US than guns going off thats all I'm trying to say. Your chances of being mauled by a mountain lion or stung by a bee are higher than a gun accidentally firing at an airport. A gun going off accidentally at an airport is nothing but a freak accident, the chances of it hitting and killing someone would be pretty remarkable as well.
+tristan volk Sure it's rare, but people are saying he's lying. Clearly he was telling the truth in that it happens, since it happens. Rare or not, he's not lying. I think it's actually less than 37% if I recall, closer to 22%. Remember, many gun owners (myself included) own multiple guns. And yes, it's rare for something to happen (also rare to ever need to use the gun as well), but that doesn't mean he isn't legitimately providing information - and it's never wrong to conduct yourself with your firearms in the safest possible manner. Again was posting to the main who was saying he was lying, as it didn't take more than a second to find out that he was telling the truth.
The locked case is a dead give away as to what is possibly in side. Right. What guarentee is there that it won't get stolen? Spoiler allert, THERE IS NONE.
The problem I have with declaring your weapon, is now the TSA people know you have it, and there have been a lot of cases of people getting their guns stolen.
toomanyaccounts You realize how much of a pain in the ass it is to file a stolen gun claim? You have to contact the police station from the area your gun was stolen. You don't know if it was stolen though from where you departed or landed though, so you have to file a claim with both places. You have to file a claim with the ATF. You also, have to do a local claim with your police station so that they know your gun was stolen. You then have to contact both airports to say your gun was stolen and most likely argue with them as I bet they will say it was lost and not stolen. After all that, "IF" the person is caught, they will hold onto your gun until the case against the person who stole it is completed. By hold it, I mean the police will keep it as evidence until the person is convicted or not. You make it sound like it is an easy process. It is not. Also, my sister's gun was stolen from her house. It took her almost 2 years to get it back because of the all the court crap going on with the guy who stole it. She had to buy a new gun just so she could protect herself while she waited to get her gun back.
toomanyaccounts You have to call the local police also. If the person who stole the gun shoots someone, the gun can be traced back to you. There is a strong possibility the local police covering the shooting will call the local police of your residence to check your residence. If your local police know the gun was stolen, they can help in not having you arrested. Trust me, you want as many agencies as possible to know your gun was stolen as local police agencies and federal agencies do not all communicate well or at all. Just because you tell your local police your gun was stolen, does not guarantee the FBI or ATF will know. The same goes for just telling the FBI. Also, the FBI do not handle stolen gun cases from airports. That is ATF and the local police of that airport the gun was stolen from's jurisdiction.
This works as long as the TSA personnel and baggage handlers are honest. I doubt if he was truthful about the gun going off at the ticket counter and hitting some one.
That's what I was thinking. If that had happened it'd have been all over the news and Obama would be swearing up and down that guns should be outlawed because of that
+joe rohling + Will Terry I was thinking the same thing too. What he said, "....we've seen guns go off at ticket counters and and [sic] hit people.." is absolutely not the truth. 1. Guns don't just "go off" period. 2. If there really was an incident of a gun firing or "accidental" shooting in a terminal, it would have been all over the news. Then the anti-gun/gun grabbers would have used it as more baloney ammunition (pardon the pun tee ;) hee) for their "guns are evil" campaign.
And it was somehow his fault that a gun fired in his bag WHILE it was being checked, if it even did. It was more likely to have been fired by an irresponsible TSA agent and not the owner.
That source provides almost zero information about the incident. it is unable to support the mans claim that the firearm just "went off". I instead think it was due to somebody irresponsibly handling it because of the near impossibility of a modern firearm "going off" from a drop or other oddity that doesn't require someone to pull the trigger.
Patrick Vail they never stopped the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber. Matter of fact, the department of homeland security conducted a scenario and with mock weapons and tsa failed to detect 95 percent of them... it's called a security pillow or theater.
Pete Maan really, the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber to make your point, those two jokes? But because of them we now have to remove our shoes when we fly. But a for your other point. yes pillow security. mostly because of what the TSA is not allowed to do. And you don't want them to either. who wants you be stripped searched to catch a plane? But thanks to politicians wanting to put on their show of doing something, the traveling public is further and further limited on what they can carry on board. And TSA workers suffer the public scorn for trying to comply. But still mostly for show. even then you probably would not believe the stuff we do catch. On a normal night I personally delivered a good size box of Abandond items to airport authority every night. And that was about 20 years ago, the x- Ray machines now are much better, but still by far not foolproof. But even then the best way to take down a plane and I doubt even you could deny this, is a surface to air missle. fired at a plane either taking off or landing. And how would airport based screening areas do anything about that?
I have a friend who works for American Airlines in the baggage department. Here is what he told me, He said if they know that any case contains a firearm, they will try to get that case open, And if successful, they will steal it. And he said they have stolen plenty of guns, usually pistols, occasionally a long Gun. I just thought I'd pass that along here.
shame on YOU Butch! For not dropping the dime ...folks like YOU are very much a part of all criminal problems! Then again I have to consider your chosen name ...a member of murdering criminal gang
ʇʇoᴉllƎ uɐɥʇƎ They prolly would turn their nose up at a POS ...why would they risk their job on a $35 POS rusted military surplus junk piece?? ...No it would have to be in the hollow stock of a fairly worthwhile looking piece to steal...any beat to shit AR would do and there ARE some pretty low buck ARs around that are pieced together with the worst parts ...couple hundred on the used market in Az should do her ..you could even leave the bolt carrier group out of the thing ... GREAT idea though!!! I'd help finance that one!
We need to standardize the rules for traveling with guns, whether by automobile or plane. This BS about different rules for different states/airlines needs to end. That is nothing more than harassment!
And what would the rules be? No rule works for everywhere due to different social and economic situations. I think we should just be allowed to bring whatever the hell we want on a plane. If people weren't so scared, they could've kicked the asses of the boxcutter weilding terrorists on 9/11 and we wouldn't have to deal with this mess.
Waffle Waffleton kind of agree with you, but obviously not everything should be allowed in planes. I just think the crews of every plane should be armed. I don't think passengers should be allowed to carry a firearm on board. Just the crews
Waffle Waffleton but if something were to actually happen on the flight it keeps that one jackass from shooting ppl cause his aim sucks or firing through the shell of the plane and possibly killing everyone.
Usually, gun owners are careful and responsible with how they use their firearm. It would be more of a deterrent for hijackings rather than something that would stop a hijacking anyway, considering that terrorists want the easiest way to hijacking that plane. Furthermore, a responsible person isn't going to spray an area with an automatic firearm, contrary to what's portrayed in movies and video games. A terrorist is more likely to miss and punch holes in the cabin than a person trying to stop a hijacking.
Frank Alcala when you drop your bag and it unlocks its case from the inside, pulls back and locked the slide, opens the ammo box, loads a fresh clip, inserts clip, pulls slide forward, disables its safety, takes careful aim through the bag, and shoots a guy.
@@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 There isn't a pistol that I'm aware of that uses an internal magazine where the clip is stored inside the handgun during operation.
He forgot to recommend you should remove the firing pin. When the TSA emoloyees steal your gun and sell it to criminals and the criminal points the gun at a convenience store employee, instead of BANG, it will only go CLICK. You can save a life.
+Sadpants McGee - He's not wrong. Besides the protection value - and believe me those baggage handlers are no more gentle with guns than any other luggage - is that some airports will actually give you an issue with that case. I use a pair of cases - either a halibuton or a samsonite with a nanovault inside. Whenever I use the samsonite because it is a hard plastic, they start to give issues (as if someone is going to melt through the side really quick to get to the gun). Only when they x-ray it and see the nanovault do they chill. It's hard to know how every airline will react, so I prefer to use the most solid case I can afford so that I don't run into issues flying.
You need a HARD case that no one can even partially open, not even a crack. You also need a lock that isn't TSA approved, they can't have a master key to it.
"he's got a pocket knife!" - TSA"yeah, it's a tool I use almost daily" - guy"Save it for the warden jihadi"-TSA How it should go. "Hey I know it's a pocket knife but this needs to be put in your luggage."-TSA"Sure"- guy If a knife be has a blade under 3" it is a tool. Not a weapon.
eli dennison I beg to differ on the length argument. A blade of any size can be a tool, and all should be considered equally as both tool and weapon because they're neither until one uses them for an action. In short, even the biggest blades are harmless hunks of metal unless used by someone with both the Know-how and the intent to harm others.
If you put a gun in your bag and your toothbrush gets in the trigger guard it's going off, unless it's a plastic fantastic glock with a crazy trigger weight. As for dropping guns, if it has a free-floating pin it will go off. Even some very popular modern firearms have this problem.
You should ask that to the people who owned the guns that went off at the airport (its probaly the same type of people that forgot there gun was in there backpack)
HockeyCrab "he knows nothing about weapons and took a 5 second glance" while ur watching a vid where hes acting like a expert telling you about weapons...screw giving him a break
Cryptonymicus You don't have to "trust everybody who has guns". If there is rotten apple with the gun, he still wants to live, and the fact that potentially many people around him are armed keeps him in check. If there is rotten apple willing to die, you can not prevent him getting the gun, and starting to shoot people. However, if there are armed people around, then the bastard will be killed quickly, if everybody is disarmed he will kill many - that is why all these bastards find "gun free zone" for their evil doing. Not a single shooting outside gun free zone (or gun free state for that matter) turns into mass shooting. You don't have to arm yourself, and bravely engage attacker to defend others. You still will be safer in a crowd of armed people. Think like they are all policemen, only they are more careful to not harm bystander, as in case of armed citizen there will be no police department to defend him from consequences, and carry responsibility for his mistakes. Being one of them I assure you that I know that every bullet coming out of my gun is my full responsibility, if it hits bystander, that will be the end of my life in one sense or another. Now, will you trust me?
yuowatcher I live in California and fly with my handgun, so far the only place I've had an issue is Seattle-Tacoma airport... I was denied boarding on my flight and had to go back to TSA and show them it was unloaded (on the x-ray it looked loaded because the full magazines were stored under the gun inside the case) I missed my flight but was booked on the next one and they apologized for the inconvenience.
Just flew for the first time with a firearm, incredibly smooth process. I was taken to the special TSA inspection area, bag went through X-ray, whole process took about six minutes. Extra magazines outside of the safe, box of ammo inside. TSA sealed the bag with a heavy duty zip tie. Our bag was waiting at the other side in the airline's baggage office, no wait for that either. Everyone was incredibly polite and professional. Flew out of Dulles International Airport.
Update for you: I booked a flight with Allegiant Airlines and called them after reading their policy. She told me that Allegiant has a policy where one must buy a separate hard lock-box for the ammunition. One cannot put the gun and ammo in the same box. Also, only you may possess the key and not even TSA can open it unless your are present, that is federal law.
It must not be a TSA lock. No one except the person traveling with the gun is supposed to be able to access it. If someone needs to verify it you will be paged and you'll need to open it. If they need to inspect the contents and you never respond to pages, I assume your luggage (at least the gun) isn't getting on the plane. A form is included as part of it that indicates this is a gun and the owner has verified that it is unloaded. Not sure if this is for liability reasons that they do it this way.
As thedudepdx correctly stated, the regulation states that only the flyer have the key or combo. Which means that it CANNOT be a TSA lock. When I have flown with firearms, after checking in, you walk the firearm case down to the TSA yourself. They will scan the bag and request it be opened if they need it to be (only happened once to me). When they're done, you close and lock.
+madcow3007 but then said gun is then in your hand luggage? Seems like a massive security risk in letting you take a gun into the cabin (even if the gun is unloaded, of your travelling with ammo in the box, it doesn't take long to load said gun) Unless of course this is the procedure for checking your gun into hold luggage - if so kindly ignore this rambling
yeah, the number of guns showing up is increasing, but we don't know why - Maybe, record gun sales for the last 3 years, genius? New owners, new CCW's. There's more and more of us. Let's travel safe, though, guys. and gals.
One word of caution, check with every airport that you fly in and out of. Every one is different including the TSA. In Columbus, Ohio you must check your gun in with security before you check your bags. Remember there is always FedEx.
The TSA guy is very likable he gives barebones advice I am traveling on allegiant airlines this week with my pistol it's nice to review the protocol instead of finding something out at the airport great job on this video
Clearly not even the TSA knows their regulations. There is no way that the "$10" plano case meets TSA requirements. If you unlatch the latches, I guarantee that you can easily remove that handgun with the lock still on the case. Look at how flexible that plastic is. That's a TSA no-no. Also, there is no TSA requirement that ammo be in the "original" packaging.
That is what happend to us last weekend.. We have traveled before with it but our return trip opened out eyes to how naive we were, but we were not allowed to bring it back home with us even thought we have traveled with it a few times... But now its on its way back and we have a new pelican case for it when it arrives.
That’s correct. I went and checked my handgun in its Remington hard case with a lock only I had the key. It required two locks so it could not be opened and have the gun removed. TSA checked it and I had no problems. On my return trip I brought back shells in a hard shell case in my locked luggage. TSA opened my luggage, checked my case and then placed a TSA sticker on the outside of my luggage which according to the TSA web site is not allowed. The sticker identifies the luggage contained shells. I guess I was fortunate after reading the other comments I didn’t have it stolen.
I bought Florida souvenir nail clippers in key west in 2003 I was 9 years old and it had a knife in the middle I brought it in my carry on and had no problems I really wanted to keep it was glad I was able to get away with it
For decades people could freely travel with guns and knives and it wasn't a problem. Even some high schools had "shooting teams" where kids would compete with rifles, and it wasn't a problem. The problem isn't the weapons, it's the people. It's the mentality of society that needs to be taught proper and safe handling of weapons, and to keep them away from mentally ill or unauthorized people and kids. If anything, people need to be MORE knowledgeable, not less. And personally speaking, Id rest a little easier knowing that "good" people--those who have passed background checks and screening to possess weapons--are carrying a weapon that could be used to save an innocent person and/or stop a "bad guy". There's a saying "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". In cities with the strictest gun control laws, the crime rates are much higher than in cities where good people are able to easily possess and carry a weapon, provided they have a permit and pass a background check. I think people need to learn more about it. Criminals don't obey the laws that restrict having a weapon. All such laws that limit or prohibit having a weapon only serve to disarm the "good guy". Those who seek to do harm to others don't obey the laws anyway, and will always find a way to do harm if that's their intent. Don't disarm the "good guys"!!! thanks
With them not having their firearms on them right? It has less to do with 2nd amendment, and more to do with cabin pressure. Even air marshals are hesitant to use their firearms (many have issue with the high caliber round they get issued), and carry a baton. Not everyone is a crack shot, and I don't think it's necessarily better to have everyone armed on the plane - might stop a terrorist and kill everyone at the same time.
L Rom high caliber? I'd rather shoot a .45 in my house at an intruder than my .223 that won't stop. Smaller faster keeps going. A .45 much more stopping power and not as fast. It'll stop faster after hitting most things.
I think he does have a point besides saying no one should be armed. You shouldn't be shooting willy nilly inside of a pressurized cabin, ending up with numerous holes being punctured and sucking out in the air. Bullets go really fast anyway, so if the agents are scared of punching holes in the plane, they should either not use their guns, or use low velocity hollow points, or even less lethal/less than lethal alternatives.
I remember back in 2000 Changing flights in Tokyo I had some time to shop so I went to an outdoor shop and bought myself a new Swiss army knife. Walked straight onto my connecting flight no problems. After take off and a meal I went to the back of the plane and lit up a few cigarettes. AHHH those were the days.
From my understanding you are correct. I highly doubt the case he used in the video would be allowed, as it was far too flimsy. I was stunned when he said to put the ammo in the same hard case as the firearm. That is absolutely not allowed, as the ammunition must be in it's factory packaging and packed separate from the firearm. You can store unloaded magazines in the firearm case, but no ammunition whatsoever.
Flew today, box of ammo and my firearm in the same locked safe - no problem. The TSA is somewhat gray but doesn't specifically say that they need to be separated.
Jonathan Arias flew back (Utah to Virginia), again no problems. I have a portable metal safe, ammo was next to the gun in the box it came in. Both flights were Delta.
Does not have to be in its original box but it can also be in a hard shell case designed to hold shells or in its box that you bought in a store. You can find all of the rules on the TSA web site.
I did exactly this at Sky Harbor and when I declared it, Delta called TSA and I was taken into a locked room and treated very poorly by TSA! I'm a firearms instructor and travel often with a handgun. I follow the rules and PHX is the only bad incident I've experienced.
They'll confiscate a gardening claw but they won't confiscate my fists? I can do a lot more damage with my bare hands. What the hell can I do with a gardening claw? I've heard of prisoners being able to make a shiv out of a plastic toothbrush. Are they gonna start confiscating toothbrushes now too?
HeroBix Gaming 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🔫🔪🔨💉🚀⚓ uuh how did those items get into my carry on luggage!? Now a passenger has to use a butt plug to prevent methane leaks that might cause an explosion.
Glad these TSA agents are keeping us so safe. I mean, look at that dangerous torque wrench! Some bad guy could have taken the plane apart one bolt at a time. Hell, is a knife or hammer even really all that dangerous anymore? Stand up in an airplane today with a knife or hammer and your gonna get bum rushed and the hell beat out of you...
I love how they act like the person carrying the hammer was trying to hide it. I’m pretty sure he probably just took it because he was going to a construction job or something, and thought it was okay to take a hammer. Same with the little shovel, why is that not allowed?
I actually have flown with my few rifles before. Expect, it wasn't easy. A few suggestions if you MUST fly with your firearm... 1) Have it in a hard case that fits the gun. 2) Have the ammunition in its orginal packing. 3) Have your Drivers Lisnince, Firearms permit, and if you do your concealed carry permit to skip a lot of bullshittery. 4) If a rifle, don't have the mag in it. 5) Have the bolt/action open, that just saves a bit of time and lessens the worry of all those there. (They can be dramatic) 6) Be sure your flight allows such a thing. (Some DO, some don't) 7) If possible, bring a HARD case not that $10 one. Bring a REAL case with locks. 8) Be sure that none of the mags are loaded (I've never done that but, the guy ahead of me did and he was pulled off by security) 9) Be complaint at ALL times no matter what they ask you to do. 10) Show up 4-5 maybe six hours before your fight as, it can be complicated...
RevoltingCock17751975 There are some guns that can fire if dropped though. Not all guns are drop safe. Otherwise, the gun should never fire if never... fired.
The hand sledge hammer is a common tool on airplanes. Those of us who deliver new trucks carry them, and we fly one or two times a week. Sometimes the weight of our luggage is such that newer guys take tools out to avoid charges and try to carry-on. They just don’t know better. Happens often. Always gets your hammer confiscated.
The Democratic People's Republic of Nikita well. It's a common tool that the rest of the world seems to have misused or misunderstood. So yes muh freedoms
So this is pre 9/11? I'm pro gun, hell I think average people should be able to buy anything except for nuclear material. But carrying a gun on a plane seems like a fantasy in our post 9/11 world. Honestly if I was going to travel with my firearm through the U.S. I'd just drive.
Anthony Hernan Just representing. Love the comments saying how good the name is. But I get so many more comments just bashing America with idiotically juvenile hearsay most of the time XD
First time I checked in a pistol at Sky Harbor, TSA needed both sides of the case locked. The firearm cannot be accessible and with only one lock, the case can be opened from the other side. Next trip, I used double lock and no issue.
Is there such a thing in America as throwing knives is a fun hobby? Is there such a thing as a TSA manager being arrogant (not funny) and ignorant with his job? Yes and yes.
This what happened to me at San Jose Airport. I'm retired law enforcement. When I checked in my suitcase, I showed the young lady at the ticket counter my badge, told her that I was traveling on official business, and informed her that I had an unloaded gun in a locked TSA approved case inside my suitcase. She wanted to see it to check that it was unloaded. No problem. I opened my suitcase, took out the locked gun case, and handed the gun to her. Now there was a problem. She never touched a gun before, didn't know how to check that it was unloaded, and the gun terrified her. Then she started to squeal, "He has a gun. He has a gun." Trying to avoid panic in the terminal, I'm holding up my badge and saying, "I'm law enforcement. Everything is okay." A manager from the airline and airport security come running over. After both the situation and the young lady are calmed down, I finish my check in. I'm just glad I wasn't shot by security.
The only problem with Pelican case itself I was told that TSA wants to have access with tsa type keys. I used a small case in larger luggage with cable to the frame of the luggage.
Wtf!?!??? TSA doesn’t even know it’s own rules!!!!!! 2:17 “If you have ammunition put it in the box” - You can’t store the ammunition and the weapon in the same box!!!!
I would be very hesitant to use the case demo'd by the agent. A TSA agent could decide that the case could be easily opened enough to get the gun out of the case by opening the latches and prying the sides up---even with the lock in place. If they decide your case is insufficient, that could lead to a delay in your travel (or worse).
Nothing words were mentioned about Concealed and/or Carriers Permit. Must one have these permits to show TSA? And what of internationally? What is required?
I love how them guys think a credit card knife is comparable to a throwing knife, its downright stupid and hilarious, you can't use that credit card knife effiently enough for it to be used as a actual weapon to kill or protect yourself.
Flying with a firearm is extremely simple. You just have to read the rules on each individual airline website or call them and ask for the specifics they require for transporting a firearm.
regarding the cc knives: He didn't understand why they are on the up swing... They are an emergency survival tool to be put in a wallet or something you always carry and forgotten about until you need it. Can be bought by itself , and commonly come included in an emergency survival kit.
He made a good point to remember.....practices will vary at different airports. That's a top reason to make sure your gun is properly cased, etc for check-in luggage. If you forget its in your carry-on bag and you get snagged at the checkpoint, that's where your problems start with local officials. I've been on 90 round trips and brought a firearm on 3/4s of them. About 1/2 these trips were after 9/11 and will say the TSA has shaped up in past 5 years. Before that I always thanked G.W. Bush every time I flew . Another little tip....airlines can change procedures so read up and don't assume. I got a reminder of that last year assuming rules were the same but Delta had made change with additional security. It irritated me at first but once it was explained I was okay with it. TSA has changed rules multiple times so check their website too.
Could Nico Melendez please give lessons to all government officials on how to think about their jobs? He seems like he knows what's important, what's not important, and how everyone can work together happily. Kudos, Mr. Melendez, for demonstrating true public service.
A lot of that stuff looks brand new to me (the sledgehammer was obviously never used). Like maybe someone bought it in their recent travels, perhaps on the way to the airport? IDK, I haven't traveled by plane in a very long time and am not sure if I ever will again. Not because I fear "terrorists" , but because I have heard too many horror stories about the TSA.
"We take and dispose of these items" Who wants to bet that's code for, The boys and I run a knife booth at the flea market on Sundays...
lol.. so thats where they get them!
I've been to a shop that had buckets labeled "TSA Confiscated Knifes" guy said he buys them for nothing mostly small pocket knifes
haha!
correct they sell them off, same with the post office when your package is "undeliverable". They stole my coolermaster CPU cooler that was worth $60+ dollars. Said the address was undeliverable. They keep it and sell it.
@@johnames6430 The Chicago and Gary, In. post offices have a very high internally stolen firearm/knife/ merchandise rate. Inspectors find a few of the culprits but most are stolen INFORMATION off the packages and then sold to crooks.
"we've seen guns go off in ticket counters and hit people"
I wonder what else he lies about.
damn those ticking time bomb guns going off at airports but no instances ever reported OUTSIDE the airport lol
There's cases of shit like that in the news, you just have to look for it. People throw guns and shit in regular old bags and purses, and all it takes is one thing getting in the trigger guard.
ok so one instance in the how many years airports have been active. 37% of America is armed with guns, out of some 320-330 million people + how many of those people are actually traveling airlines with guns, I'd be surprised if its over eve 5%. Even if you pulled up like 40 articles there's still more instances of shark attacks per year in the US than guns going off thats all I'm trying to say. Your chances of being mauled by a mountain lion or stung by a bee are higher than a gun accidentally firing at an airport. A gun going off accidentally at an airport is nothing but a freak accident, the chances of it hitting and killing someone would be pretty remarkable as well.
+tristan volk Sure it's rare, but people are saying he's lying. Clearly he was telling the truth in that it happens, since it happens. Rare or not, he's not lying.
I think it's actually less than 37% if I recall, closer to 22%. Remember, many gun owners (myself included) own multiple guns.
And yes, it's rare for something to happen (also rare to ever need to use the gun as well), but that doesn't mean he isn't legitimately providing information - and it's never wrong to conduct yourself with your firearms in the safest possible manner.
Again was posting to the main who was saying he was lying, as it didn't take more than a second to find out that he was telling the truth.
yeah it is rare because most people are smart enough to not have guns loaded. and even rare, why would you not want to be ready for this?
The only way a gun would go off at a ticket counter is if it was 1) Made in like 1805 or 2) Someone pulled the trigger.
Or if something got into the trigger guard. Very easy for that to happen if there are small, loose items in with the firearm.
assuming theres ammunition in the clip and a bullet in the chamber, and the saftey is off.
+Fred H *magazine
Zach Cushing
Ive brought shame to my family.
its called a clip
He forgot to mention that you should cable lock the box to the inside of your suitcase so that the TSA agents won't steal it.
Brian Folks please post a video on how to do it
I’m tired of tsa stealing
I think this is a TSA training video: ua-cam.com/video/HZbg5AdlO70/v-deo.html
They also didnt mention to not use a TSA lock and not to have anything on the outside of the bag / case / etc that indicates it contains a firearm.
That is a fantastic idea
So when's the TSA gonna demonstrate how to fly and not have them steal your stuff? The TSA are a bunch of crooks
The locked case is a dead give away as to what is possibly in side. Right. What guarentee is there that it won't get stolen? Spoiler allert, THERE IS NONE.
yeah and wont hire you because of a 7 yr old debt because they think you will be quick to take a bribe. ridiculos!!!
Get a long metal bicycle lock that you can wrap around your gun box and the metal rods in your suitcase so it can't be stolen by the TSA.
they would cut the lock for "reasonable suspicion"
Jk Arts use an emforcer lock bam xd
The problem I have with declaring your weapon, is now the TSA people know you have it, and there have been a lot of cases of people getting their guns stolen.
And the tsa agents that steal the guns are often arrested if the gun owner contacts the police.
toomanyaccounts You realize how much of a pain in the ass it is to file a stolen gun claim? You have to contact the police station from the area your gun was stolen. You don't know if it was stolen though from where you departed or landed though, so you have to file a claim with both places. You have to file a claim with the ATF. You also, have to do a local claim with your police station so that they know your gun was stolen. You then have to contact both airports to say your gun was stolen and most likely argue with them as I bet they will say it was lost and not stolen. After all that, "IF" the person is caught, they will hold onto your gun until the case against the person who stole it is completed. By hold it, I mean the police will keep it as evidence until the person is convicted or not. You make it sound like it is an easy process. It is not. Also, my sister's gun was stolen from her house. It took her almost 2 years to get it back because of the all the court crap going on with the guy who stole it. She had to buy a new gun just so she could protect herself while she waited to get her gun back.
you call the fbi not local law enforcement since its an interstate theft of firearms.
you call the fbi not local law enforcement since its an interstate theft of firearms.
toomanyaccounts You have to call the local police also. If the person who stole the gun shoots someone, the gun can be traced back to you. There is a strong possibility the local police covering the shooting will call the local police of your residence to check your residence. If your local police know the gun was stolen, they can help in not having you arrested. Trust me, you want as many agencies as possible to know your gun was stolen as local police agencies and federal agencies do not all communicate well or at all. Just because you tell your local police your gun was stolen, does not guarantee the FBI or ATF will know. The same goes for just telling the FBI. Also, the FBI do not handle stolen gun cases from airports. That is ATF and the local police of that airport the gun was stolen from's jurisdiction.
This works as long as the TSA personnel and baggage handlers are honest. I doubt if he was truthful about the gun going off at the ticket counter and hitting some one.
That's what I was thinking. If that had happened it'd have been all over the news and Obama would be swearing up and down that guns should be outlawed because of that
+joe rohling + Will Terry I was thinking the same thing too. What he said, "....we've seen guns go off at ticket counters and and [sic] hit people.." is absolutely not the truth. 1. Guns don't just "go off" period. 2. If there really was an incident of a gun firing or "accidental" shooting in a terminal, it would have been all over the news. Then the anti-gun/gun grabbers would have used it as more baloney ammunition (pardon the pun tee ;) hee) for their "guns are evil" campaign.
abc13.com/news/gun-discharges-at-ticket-counter-at-bush-iah/815795/
And it was somehow his fault that a gun fired in his bag WHILE it was being checked, if it even did. It was more likely to have been fired by an irresponsible TSA agent and not the owner.
That source provides almost zero information about the incident. it is unable to support the mans claim that the firearm just "went off". I instead think it was due to somebody irresponsibly handling it because of the near impossibility of a modern firearm "going off" from a drop or other oddity that doesn't require someone to pull the trigger.
Funny part is, tsa never stopped terrorism...
Pete Maan e
Pete Maan exasperated sigh, how in the hell do you measure anything that didn't happen?
Patrick Vail they never stopped the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber. Matter of fact, the department of homeland security conducted a scenario and with mock weapons and tsa failed to detect 95 percent of them... it's called a security pillow or theater.
Pete Maan really, the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber to make your point, those two jokes? But because of them we now have to remove our shoes when we fly. But a for your other point. yes pillow security. mostly because of what the TSA is not allowed to do. And you don't want them to either. who wants you be stripped searched to catch a plane? But thanks to politicians wanting to put on their show of doing something, the traveling public is further and further limited on what they can carry on board. And TSA workers suffer the public scorn for trying to comply. But still mostly for show. even then you probably would not believe the stuff we do catch. On a normal night I personally delivered a good size box of Abandond items to airport authority every night. And that was about 20 years ago, the x- Ray machines now are much better, but still by far not foolproof. But even then the best way to take down a plane and I doubt even you could deny this, is a surface to air missle. fired at a plane either taking off or landing. And how would airport based screening areas do anything about that?
...while hundreds of TSA agents have been arrested for all sorts of crimes.
Leaving the knives open in the basin and digging around for more stuff? Idiots. And that was a collapsable baton, not half a nun chuck lol
JustAnotherBasic i was thinking the exact same thing
but the real question is why are you so mad about that? just stfu and eat your cookie
it's just ironic that a safety official is digging through a box of sharp objects
@@AgentOneRep damn isn't that what police use?
@@fredstead5652 hey man it has been A very long time since I made that comment. What are you referring to?
I have a friend who works for American Airlines in the baggage department. Here is what he told me, He said if they know that any case contains a firearm, they will try to get that case open, And if successful, they will steal it. And he said they have stolen plenty of guns, usually pistols, occasionally a long Gun. I just thought I'd pass that along here.
Butch Cassidy i want to buy a cheap firearm put a tracker on it and track it and have that person arrested
MERICA BITCH that's a good idea and the ad revenue you'll get from views will pay for the flight and another gun and tracker
MERICA BITCH good idea...plz someone do this
shame on YOU Butch! For not dropping the dime ...folks like YOU are very much a part of all criminal problems! Then again I have to consider your chosen name ...a member of murdering criminal gang
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They prolly would turn their nose up at a POS ...why would they risk their job on a $35 POS rusted military surplus junk piece?? ...No it would have to be in the hollow stock of a fairly worthwhile looking piece to steal...any beat to shit AR would do and there ARE some pretty low buck ARs around that are pieced together with the worst parts ...couple hundred on the used market in Az should do her ..you could even leave the bolt carrier group out of the thing ... GREAT idea though!!! I'd help finance that one!
We need to standardize the rules for traveling with guns, whether by automobile or plane. This BS about different rules for different states/airlines needs to end. That is nothing more than harassment!
And what would the rules be? No rule works for everywhere due to different social and economic situations. I think we should just be allowed to bring whatever the hell we want on a plane. If people weren't so scared, they could've kicked the asses of the boxcutter weilding terrorists on 9/11 and we wouldn't have to deal with this mess.
Waffle Waffleton kind of agree with you, but obviously not everything should be allowed in planes. I just think the crews of every plane should be armed. I don't think passengers should be allowed to carry a firearm on board. Just the crews
That's a really bad idea, because it makes the passengers targets, which could make them potential hostages.
Waffle Waffleton but if something were to actually happen on the flight it keeps that one jackass from shooting ppl cause his aim sucks or firing through the shell of the plane and possibly killing everyone.
Usually, gun owners are careful and responsible with how they use their firearm. It would be more of a deterrent for hijackings rather than something that would stop a hijacking anyway, considering that terrorists want the easiest way to hijacking that plane. Furthermore, a responsible person isn't going to spray an area with an automatic firearm, contrary to what's portrayed in movies and video games. A terrorist is more likely to miss and punch holes in the cabin than a person trying to stop a hijacking.
he said he got the box for $10 when the price tag says $14.99 something is not adding up
Well if you do the math
It was on clearance
It’s a $5 difference 😂stfu
HockeyCentral Coupon or sale?
hey said ABOUT $10... key word, ABOUT.
I hate it when I drop my bag with my pistol in it and the slide gets pulled back, the safety gets flipped off, and the trigger is pulled, damn
Frank Alcala when you drop your bag and it unlocks its case from the inside, pulls back and locked the slide, opens the ammo box, loads a fresh clip, inserts clip, pulls slide forward, disables its safety, takes careful aim through the bag, and shoots a guy.
@@thatonehumanoid7756 *Clip* ...
@@UpsideDownCanoe could be a internal mag pistol
@@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 There isn't a pistol that I'm aware of that uses an internal magazine where the clip is stored inside the handgun during operation.
@@UpsideDownCanoe The mauser and luger
He forgot to recommend you should remove the firing pin. When the TSA emoloyees steal your gun and sell it to criminals and the criminal points the gun at a convenience store employee, instead of BANG, it will only go CLICK. You can save a life.
I wold never use a cheep $10.00 case
why?
+Sadpants McGee - He's not wrong. Besides the protection value - and believe me those baggage handlers are no more gentle with guns than any other luggage - is that some airports will actually give you an issue with that case. I use a pair of cases - either a halibuton or a samsonite with a nanovault inside. Whenever I use the samsonite because it is a hard plastic, they start to give issues (as if someone is going to melt through the side really quick to get to the gun). Only when they x-ray it and see the nanovault do they chill.
It's hard to know how every airline will react, so I prefer to use the most solid case I can afford so that I don't run into issues flying.
Sadpants McGee ,
Sig 226/2022 It's worlds better than throwing it in a duffle bag.
Puddintane You pronounce it like Ch"eh"p?
...I hate when I get to the airport and the TSA finds my riding lawnmower in my carry on
What if some little old lady had a metal vibrator in carry on? Embarrassing! Is there a tsa blog that covers THAT? LOL
Pork money I love your comment 🤣🤣🤣
It’s the blades on the mower that you can’t carry onto the plane. The rest of the mower is fine but you have to buy a ticket first.
You need a HARD case that no one can even partially open, not even a crack. You also need a lock that isn't TSA approved, they can't have a master key to it.
Won't that make it even less likely that there gonna let you bring it
@@fredstead5652 No, it makes it so when they want to open it you have to be there. It's like a form of insurance for yourself
Huh. That guy was very nice being that he worked at the TSA :)
"he's got a pocket knife!" - TSA"yeah, it's a tool I use almost daily" - guy"Save it for the warden jihadi"-TSA
How it should go.
"Hey I know it's a pocket knife but this needs to be put in your luggage."-TSA"Sure"- guy
If a knife be has a blade under 3" it is a tool. Not a weapon.
eli dennison I beg to differ on the length argument. A blade of any size can be a tool, and all should be considered equally as both tool and weapon because they're neither until one uses them for an action.
In short, even the biggest blades are harmless hunks of metal unless used by someone with both the Know-how and the intent to harm others.
regardless of size (kek) think we can both agree this is asinine... its a pocket knife...
eli dennison Agreed. I was just taking your point and saying it also applies to anything short of a claymore.
Ya because box cutters could never be used as weapons ever...
guns firing by themselves ! incredible BULL
If you put a gun in your bag and your toothbrush gets in the trigger guard it's going off, unless it's a plastic fantastic glock with a crazy trigger weight. As for dropping guns, if it has a free-floating pin it will go off. Even some very popular modern firearms have this problem.
James Stubbins glocks have a vertical pin that blocks the firing pin so....no
John rocco they probably got caught on a shirt or something.
You should ask that to the people who owned the guns that went off at the airport (its probaly the same type of people that forgot there gun was in there backpack)
James Stubbins if theres nothing in the chamber and the firing pin isnt ready, how the hell is it going to go off?
That wasn't "half of a nunchuck" that was a expandable baton with a lanyard attached to it...
Anyone notice the "half of s nunchuck" is a collapsible baton. It's at 8:33. Lol
he knows nothing about weapons and gave it a 5 second glance, give him a break
HockeyCrab "he knows nothing about weapons and took a 5 second glance"
while ur watching a vid where hes acting like a expert telling you about weapons...screw giving him a break
well, i don't even know why the fuck this video was in my recommended or even why i watched it all so i don't really care
Eckomeister223, yep....lol
Yes
I would like to see the article where a gun was dropped by a TSA employee or airline and someone was shot or gone off
Sounds like Arizona is the great state to move to as opposed to peoples republic of california.
kek
Yeah it's great if you trust everybody and anybody having guns. Well, it's great till Lake Mead runs out of water.
Cryptonymicus
You don't have to "trust everybody who has guns". If there is rotten apple with the gun, he still wants to live, and the fact that potentially many people around him are armed keeps him in check. If there is rotten apple willing to die, you can not prevent him getting the gun, and starting to shoot people. However, if there are armed people around, then the bastard will be killed quickly, if everybody is disarmed he will kill many - that is why all these bastards find "gun free zone" for their evil doing. Not a single shooting outside gun free zone (or gun free state for that matter) turns into mass shooting.
You don't have to arm yourself, and bravely engage attacker to defend others. You still will be safer in a crowd of armed people. Think like they are all policemen, only they are more careful to not harm bystander, as in case of armed citizen there will be no police department to defend him from consequences, and carry responsibility for his mistakes. Being one of them I assure you that I know that every bullet coming out of my gun is my full responsibility, if it hits bystander, that will be the end of my life in one sense or another. Now, will you trust me?
yuowatcher I live in California and fly with my handgun, so far the only place I've had an issue is Seattle-Tacoma airport... I was denied boarding on my flight and had to go back to TSA and show them it was unloaded (on the x-ray it looked loaded because the full magazines were stored under the gun inside the case) I missed my flight but was booked on the next one and they apologized for the inconvenience.
*****
You need to catch some of Massad Ayoob's videos. You might learn something, Rambo.
Do I trust you? No. Now I trust you even less.
Just flew for the first time with a firearm, incredibly smooth process. I was taken to the special TSA inspection area, bag went through X-ray, whole process took about six minutes. Extra magazines outside of the safe, box of ammo inside. TSA sealed the bag with a heavy duty zip tie.
Our bag was waiting at the other side in the airline's baggage office, no wait for that either.
Everyone was incredibly polite and professional. Flew out of Dulles International Airport.
Update for you: I booked a flight with Allegiant Airlines and called them after reading their policy. She told me that Allegiant has a policy where one must buy a separate hard lock-box for the ammunition. One cannot put the gun and ammo in the same box. Also, only you may possess the key and not even TSA can open it unless your are present, that is federal law.
i love how chill this guy is
curious how the lock doesnt have to be the TSA approved lock which they have the skeleton key for
It must not be a TSA lock. No one except the person traveling with the gun is supposed to be able to access it. If someone needs to verify it you will be paged and you'll need to open it. If they need to inspect the contents and you never respond to pages, I assume your luggage (at least the gun) isn't getting on the plane. A form is included as part of it that indicates this is a gun and the owner has verified that it is unloaded. Not sure if this is for liability reasons that they do it this way.
As thedudepdx correctly stated, the regulation states that only the flyer have the key or combo. Which means that it CANNOT be a TSA lock.
When I have flown with firearms, after checking in, you walk the firearm case down to the TSA yourself. They will scan the bag and request it be opened if they need it to be (only happened once to me). When they're done, you close and lock.
+madcow3007 but then said gun is then in your hand luggage? Seems like a massive security risk in letting you take a gun into the cabin (even if the gun is unloaded, of your travelling with ammo in the box, it doesn't take long to load said gun)
Unless of course this is the procedure for checking your gun into hold luggage - if so kindly ignore this rambling
+Call Me Dougan guns are never allowed in cabin. this is for checked luggage.
+madcow3007 thanks man - that's what I couldn't get my head round - virtually no firearms in the uk
yeah, the number of guns showing up is increasing, but we don't know why - Maybe, record gun sales for the last 3 years, genius? New owners, new CCW's. There's more and more of us. Let's travel safe, though, guys. and gals.
One word of caution, check with every airport that you fly in and out of. Every one is different including the TSA. In Columbus, Ohio you must check your gun in with security before you check your bags. Remember there is always FedEx.
using the mail has its own rules.
toomanyaccounts FedEx isn't the mail, it's a common carrier.
Mr. Snek And ammunition too. Fedex is a great shipping company.
The TSA guy is very likable he gives barebones advice I am traveling on allegiant airlines this week with my pistol it's nice to review the protocol instead of finding something out at the airport great job on this video
Clearly not even the TSA knows their regulations. There is no way that the "$10" plano case meets TSA requirements. If you unlatch the latches, I guarantee that you can easily remove that handgun with the lock still on the case. Look at how flexible that plastic is. That's a TSA no-no. Also, there is no TSA requirement that ammo be in the "original" packaging.
That is what happend to us last weekend.. We have traveled before with it but our return trip opened out eyes to how naive we were, but we were not allowed to bring it back home with us even thought we have traveled with it a few times... But now its on its way back and we have a new pelican case for it when it arrives.
barska cases are also very hard and are as good as the pelican cases.
That’s correct. I went and checked my handgun in its Remington hard case with a lock only I had the key. It required two locks so it could not be opened and have the gun removed. TSA checked it and I had no problems. On my return trip I brought back shells in a hard shell case in my locked luggage. TSA opened my luggage, checked my case and then placed a TSA sticker on the outside of my luggage which according to the TSA web site is not allowed. The sticker identifies the luggage contained shells. I guess I was fortunate after reading the other comments I didn’t have it stolen.
I bought Florida souvenir nail clippers in key west in 2003 I was 9 years old and it had a knife in the middle I brought it in my carry on and had no problems I really wanted to keep it was glad I was able to get away with it
For decades people could freely travel with guns and knives and it wasn't a problem. Even some high schools had "shooting teams" where kids would compete with rifles, and it wasn't a problem. The problem isn't the weapons, it's the people. It's the mentality of society that needs to be taught proper and safe handling of weapons, and to keep them away from mentally ill or unauthorized people and kids. If anything, people need to be MORE knowledgeable, not less. And personally speaking, Id rest a little easier knowing that "good" people--those who have passed background checks and screening to possess weapons--are carrying a weapon that could be used to save an innocent person and/or stop a "bad guy". There's a saying "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". In cities with the strictest gun control laws, the crime rates are much higher than in cities where good people are able to easily possess and carry a weapon, provided they have a permit and pass a background check. I think people need to learn more about it. Criminals don't obey the laws that restrict having a weapon. All such laws that limit or prohibit having a weapon only serve to disarm the "good guy". Those who seek to do harm to others don't obey the laws anyway, and will always find a way to do harm if that's their intent. Don't disarm the "good guys"!!! thanks
this dude really sounds like Bob from Bob's Burgers
Yeah TSA has failed so many time with their "check points" that the testing records have been deemed classified.
I don't think I would want to put my gun in my suitcase so that it can be stolen by airport employees.
I'd rather fly with concealed carry firearms owners…they've been vetted and Americans' 2nd Amendment is the RIGHT OF EVERY LEGAL CITIZEN..!!
Wonka Chocolates Yep, exactly Correct
With them not having their firearms on them right? It has less to do with 2nd amendment, and more to do with cabin pressure. Even air marshals are hesitant to use their firearms (many have issue with the high caliber round they get issued), and carry a baton. Not everyone is a crack shot, and I don't think it's necessarily better to have everyone armed on the plane - might stop a terrorist and kill everyone at the same time.
L Rom You are a prime example of speaking from ignorance.
L Rom high caliber? I'd rather shoot a .45 in my house at an intruder than my .223 that won't stop. Smaller faster keeps going. A .45 much more stopping power and not as fast. It'll stop faster after hitting most things.
I think he does have a point besides saying no one should be armed. You shouldn't be shooting willy nilly inside of a pressurized cabin, ending up with numerous holes being punctured and sucking out in the air. Bullets go really fast anyway, so if the agents are scared of punching holes in the plane, they should either not use their guns, or use low velocity hollow points, or even less lethal/less than lethal alternatives.
I remember back in 2000 Changing flights in Tokyo I had some time to shop so I went to an outdoor shop and bought myself a new Swiss army knife. Walked straight onto my connecting flight no problems. After take off and a meal I went to the back of the plane and lit up a few cigarettes. AHHH those were the days.
The case needs to be an airline approved case, and not just loose but in you luggage..and I believe separate from the ammo..
From my understanding you are correct. I highly doubt the case he used in the video would be allowed, as it was far too flimsy.
I was stunned when he said to put the ammo in the same hard case as the firearm. That is absolutely not allowed, as the ammunition must be in it's factory packaging and packed separate from the firearm.
You can store unloaded magazines in the firearm case, but no ammunition whatsoever.
Flew today, box of ammo and my firearm in the same locked safe - no problem. The TSA is somewhat gray but doesn't specifically say that they need to be separated.
Have to be TSA approved but even on the right box depends on the airline, happens to me 2 weeks ago
Jonathan Arias flew back (Utah to Virginia), again no problems. I have a portable metal safe, ammo was next to the gun in the box it came in.
Both flights were Delta.
Does not have to be in its original box but it can also be in a hard shell case designed to hold shells or in its box that you bought in a store. You can find all of the rules on the TSA web site.
I did exactly this at Sky Harbor and when I declared it, Delta called TSA and I was taken into a locked room and treated very poorly by TSA! I'm a firearms instructor and travel often with a handgun. I follow the rules and PHX is the only bad incident I've experienced.
So ur allowed to bring a gun but no 6oz of water Ok
Can the ammo be stored in the same box?
No apparently not but i don't get why
They'll confiscate a gardening claw but they won't confiscate my fists? I can do a lot more damage with my bare hands. What the hell can I do with a gardening claw? I've heard of prisoners being able to make a shiv out of a plastic toothbrush. Are they gonna start confiscating toothbrushes now too?
I think getting hit with a sharp, metal gardening claw would hurt more than getting hit with you blunt, fleshy fists
HeroBix Gaming 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🔫🔪🔨💉🚀⚓ uuh how did those items get into my carry on luggage!? Now a passenger has to use a butt plug to prevent methane leaks that might cause an explosion.
“Officer, I have no idea how that rifle got into my golf bag”
Glad these TSA agents are keeping us so safe. I mean, look at that dangerous torque wrench! Some bad guy could have taken the plane apart one bolt at a time.
Hell, is a knife or hammer even really all that dangerous anymore? Stand up in an airplane today with a knife or hammer and your gonna get bum rushed and the hell beat out of you...
Maybe it was a looong flight . . .
Why the hell are you walking round a plane with a hammer or a knife put it in your luggage or buy a new hammer i get knives but seriously a hammer
I love how they act like the person carrying the hammer was trying to hide it. I’m pretty sure he probably just took it because he was going to a construction job or something, and thought it was okay to take a hammer. Same with the little shovel, why is that not allowed?
half of a nunchuch , what a fricking idiot
I actually have flown with my few rifles before. Expect, it wasn't easy. A few suggestions if you MUST fly with your firearm...
1) Have it in a hard case that fits the gun.
2) Have the ammunition in its orginal packing.
3) Have your Drivers Lisnince, Firearms permit, and if you do your concealed carry permit to skip a lot of bullshittery.
4) If a rifle, don't have the mag in it.
5) Have the bolt/action open, that just saves a bit of time and lessens the worry of all those there. (They can be dramatic)
6) Be sure your flight allows such a thing. (Some DO, some don't)
7) If possible, bring a HARD case not that $10 one. Bring a REAL case with locks.
8) Be sure that none of the mags are loaded (I've never done that but, the guy ahead of me did and he was pulled off by security)
9) Be complaint at ALL times no matter what they ask you to do.
10) Show up 4-5 maybe six hours before your fight as, it can be complicated...
Guns don’t just “ go off”... unless the trigger is pulled.
RevoltingCock17751975
There are some guns that can fire if dropped though. Not all guns are drop safe. Otherwise, the gun should never fire if never... fired.
Have you found any of those little credit card sized 22. Single shot guns? Wonder what that would look like on the scanner.
Firearm. Not weapon.
depends on your quarry.....me thinks.
Firearms are weapons too...
they are weapons
Ummm firearms were made to be weapons. That's the main purpose of guns...
A weapon is meant to inflict physical harm or damage. A firearm is a rifle, pistol, ect.
Well if you're a traveling carpenter, gardener, or sommelier I guess you're screwed.
and they are law biding people yet they couldnt catch one terrorest
Very knowledgable guy.... Great report...Thanks for the information...
Cops should stop holstering there gun because this guy said it could accidentally goes off....
The hand sledge hammer is a common tool on airplanes. Those of us who deliver new trucks carry them, and we fly one or two times a week.
Sometimes the weight of our luggage is such that newer guys take tools out to avoid charges and try to carry-on. They just don’t know better.
Happens often. Always gets your hammer confiscated.
Americans: Why can't I bring my *gun* on the *plane*. MUH FREEDOMS
The Democratic People's Republic of Nikita well. It's a common tool that the rest of the world seems to have misused or misunderstood. So yes muh freedoms
Fuck yeah I love America we get to have full autos, silencers and whatever we can think of. America!
We can travel with guns. Watch the video.
Can you put the smaller box inside a suitcase if you declare it?
The Toilet Safty Administration!
This guy is too nice to be TSA. He must be a hired actor or something
police state USA
+pete5668 Really? Ever been to a real police state? If you do you'll be wishing for the TSA.
+Casey C bull
pete5668 Yeah I'll take the DPRK any day.
Casey C
really? Then why don't you live there, if it is so much better? Answer? Because it isn't.
pete5668 What? Why don't I move to North Korea? Do you understand sarcasm?
I don't even own a gun and I'm watching this at 5 in the morning.
So this is pre 9/11? I'm pro gun, hell I think average people should be able to buy anything except for nuclear material. But carrying a gun on a plane seems like a fantasy in our post 9/11 world. Honestly if I was going to travel with my firearm through the U.S. I'd just drive.
America
Love the username btw.
Anthony Hernan Just representing. Love the comments saying how good the name is. But I get so many more comments just bashing America with idiotically juvenile hearsay most of the time XD
You can send a pistol through on your checked baggage not carry on.
First time I checked in a pistol at Sky Harbor, TSA needed both sides of the case locked. The firearm cannot be accessible and with only one lock, the case can be opened from the other side. Next trip, I used double lock and no issue.
Is there such a thing in America as throwing knives is a fun hobby? Is there such a thing as a TSA manager being arrogant (not funny) and ignorant with his job? Yes and yes.
This what happened to me at San Jose Airport. I'm retired law enforcement. When I checked in my suitcase, I showed the young lady at the ticket counter my badge, told her that I was traveling on official business, and informed her that I had an unloaded gun in a locked TSA approved case inside my suitcase. She wanted to see it to check that it was unloaded. No problem. I opened my suitcase, took out the locked gun case, and handed the gun to her. Now there was a problem. She never touched a gun before, didn't know how to check that it was unloaded, and the gun terrified her. Then she started to squeal, "He has a gun. He has a gun." Trying to avoid panic in the terminal, I'm holding up my badge and saying, "I'm law enforcement. Everything is okay." A manager from the airline and airport security come running over. After both the situation and the young lady are calmed down, I finish my check in. I'm just glad I wasn't shot by security.
Too bad us civilian pukes don't get treated like that. We don't have a magic badge that settles retards down.
No Russian.
The only problem with Pelican case itself I was told that TSA wants to have access with tsa type keys. I used a small case in larger luggage with cable to the frame of the luggage.
They don't even know the difference between a gun and a firearm. If you don't know your self ; Google 26 USC 5845.
i looked it up. What would a pistol or revolver be considered then?
Dj Aho geez you must be a lot of fun to be around
never knew guns were a cheaper alternative to commercial air travel.
How do you carry a rifle? Is it the same way with a hard case?
Wtf!?!???
TSA doesn’t even know it’s own rules!!!!!!
2:17
“If you have ammunition put it in the box”
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You can’t store the ammunition and the weapon in the same box!!!!
I would be very hesitant to use the case demo'd by the agent. A TSA agent could decide that the case could be easily opened enough to get the gun out of the case by opening the latches and prying the sides up---even with the lock in place. If they decide your case is insufficient, that could lead to a delay in your travel (or worse).
i am dying laughing knowing he is talking about danger and he just leaves a fully opened knife in box of stuff.
Nothing words were mentioned about Concealed and/or Carriers Permit. Must one have these permits to show TSA? And what of internationally? What is required?
What about the state you are flying out of if you don't have a concealed carry permit can you take your gun to the airport?
cool now how do i get into the cockpit
I love how them guys think a credit card knife is comparable to a throwing knife, its downright stupid and hilarious, you can't use that credit card knife effiently enough for it to be used as a actual weapon to kill or protect yourself.
Manuel calderon but. Dude you can scratch someone. They can't have that you know
How do you retrieve the checked weapon/handgun once arrived at the final destination?
Is that particular case allowed though?
Wait so here's my question if your a TSA worker can you keep some of the stuff people don't come back for?
Flying with a firearm is extremely simple. You just have to read the rules on each individual airline website or call them and ask for the specifics they require for transporting a firearm.
I'm thinking about flying with my p38 Walther but honestly, I am not sure if it's worth it with all the TSA issues of "lost" luggage.
regarding the cc knives: He didn't understand why they are on the up swing... They are an emergency survival tool to be put in a wallet or something you always carry and forgotten about until you need it. Can be bought by itself , and commonly come included in an emergency survival kit.
I've been told by the TSA in Tampa that the Ammo and the gun has to be separate, not in the same case.
You can have my gardening claw when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
He made a good point to remember.....practices will vary at different airports. That's a top reason to make sure your gun is properly cased, etc for check-in luggage. If you forget its in your carry-on bag and you get snagged at the checkpoint, that's where your problems start with local officials. I've been on 90 round trips and brought a firearm on 3/4s of them. About 1/2 these trips were after 9/11 and will say the TSA has shaped up in past 5 years. Before that I always thanked G.W. Bush every time I flew .
Another little tip....airlines can change procedures so read up and don't assume. I got a reminder of that last year assuming rules were the same but Delta had made change with additional security. It irritated me at first but once it was explained I was okay with it. TSA has changed rules multiple times so check their website too.
Still not clear - can you take it on board as carry-on or not?
JR
You have to change planes in NY?
So you can bring a gun on board of an airplane ?
Could Nico Melendez please give lessons to all government officials on how to think about their jobs? He seems like he knows what's important, what's not important, and how everyone can work together happily. Kudos, Mr. Melendez, for demonstrating true public service.
I'm sure that box of knifes and stuff is kept in the break room with a piece of paper that says take what you want.
FYI most airlines will not allow a flimsy case like that. They want higher quality ones that’s can’t be pried open easily.
Do you have to have verification of ownership?
A lot of that stuff looks brand new to me (the sledgehammer was obviously never used). Like maybe someone bought it in their recent travels, perhaps on the way to the airport? IDK, I haven't traveled by plane in a very long time and am not sure if I ever will again. Not because I fear "terrorists" , but because I have heard too many horror stories about the TSA.
Ironic how there's a sign right behind them saying you can't bring a weapon onto the plane
How to declare you have a gun on you
“EVERYONE GET DOWN I HAVE A GUN”
I have flown several times with my gun and had no problem i even bought a 1000 rounds of 7.62×39 and had no problem with it on my flight