Australians need to take note of places like Baja in America. The 4wd community were faced with losing their tracks and camp sites until the 4wd community started banding together and people named and shamed the idiots. The tracks and campsites are pristine now every vehicle has a spare wheel bag and there’s no rubbish. They knew that if it was allowed to continue they would lose their right to access those areas. Don’t be intimidated by these clowns speak up if you see it and let the whole world know if they are grubs.
Totally agree mate. I’ve always followed the mantra “leave nothing but footprints”. Really angers me (especially as a landscape photographer) when I find a beautiful spot only to find some rubbish left by people - was at dunes north of Jurien Bay and found a decent spot for photography with a lone tree sticking out of the dune. At the base of the tree we’re an empty beer can and bottle. I couldn’t clear them as that would have left footprints in the sand which would have ruined the shot. Really pees me off when we have the most beautiful pristine environment and it’s ruined by thoughtless, selfish people. Keep spreading the word mate 👍
Couldn’t upthumb this enough! Good on you Paul for focussing on this tissue issue. If we all left camp sites better than we found them the environment would be pristine for all to enjoy, instead its just those who have respect cleaning up after the sloppy dogs that leave this mess behind.
Well said, well done and well done again for highlighting the issue. The mentality of the drones that do this escapes me, it needs to rammed home that this is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE! Crazy. 🙄
I filmed something similar in the exact area a few years ago. Same thing. Tickets and rubbish dumped all the bush up the back there. Nothing will change. Nothing has changed. I pushed pretty hard trying to put the message out. It falls on deaf ears. It’s a shame. Camping has become too big for its own good with too many folk with no idea (and no desire) to camp with respect. I’ve mostly given up on free camping spots and have gone back to camping in mostly Hipcamp and paid areas as I would rather exchange a bit of noise for not having to see this anymore. It’s cool to be able to say “we’re free camping, we’re so remote, no ones around”, but it’s not worth the aggravation anymore. Also why I’ve been camping 3 times this year and have lost my drive. I applaud you putting it out there though.
Yeah I know you’ve been struggling with it mate it does get hard. I would rather go very remote then camp or even 4wd close to Perth. Too many shall we say disrespectful people to deal with.
You hit the nail on the head mate with “ Camping has become too big for its own good “ that’s exactly half the problem with so many inconsiderate and thoughtless idiots with no respect for other campers .
@@reddyman6915 I was talking to our mechanic a while back and he was telling me how different it was these days to when they used to go years ago. A lot of what used to be the once in a lifetime trips are now like country roads in comparison. Things like the Simpson or Cape York are very crowded as it seems like everyone is taking a year off and doing a lap of Australia.
I'm from Victoria and I used to trail bike ride alot. I cannot count the times I would pull up to a remote river site and see not only toilet tickets and rubbish everywhere, but disposable nappies disgustingly thrown in every direction around the bush. I do not mean a couple but a lot,it's absolutely a disgrace how people treat our beautiful landscape.
Hey Paul ! Just moved from NSW ,Camping in the eastern states is very policed now days due to this problem. Let’s keep this place WA the gem that it is ! Cheers Paul we need more like you !👍👌
great vid Paul, this sort of thing we see a lot of all along the coast and we will continue to clean up the rubbish, if we don't someone has to be paid or the tracks will be closed
Im from jurien bay and we had a shack at sandy cape until the shire in its wisdom decided to demolish them all in the name of saving the dunes, they then bulldozed the dunes and put a road into it so the perth masses could destroy the place. What was our free, beautiful, quiet little place is now a trashed overcrowded payed camp. The truth is the problems start as soon as the city folk move in not a popular opinion but the truth. Have seen the same thing all up and down the coast and it creates a lot of animosity amongst rural communities. So just remember when your camping in areas like this that its somebodys backyard and treat it as such.
Yep it's a combination of a poor entitled attitude, laziness and lack of preparation before heading out. I've cleaned up a few campsites myself even when I haven't been staying there! I do it because I don't want these places shut down and it absolutely pisses me off! I'm yet to catch a bastard in the act but when I do they're going to wish they never did it in the first place! The campfire still burning is an absolute disgrace too! How stupid are these people to not realise that it'll quickly cause a fire that could end up like over east a few years back! Absolute flogs!
Well said mate. Unfortunately it's fighting an uphill battle. A lot of people don't give a rats arse anymore. Everywhere we go, camping or 4wding, there's rubbish. It's disgusting and disappointing. It's still early in the season now but there's already been plenty of bushfires already. Every time we go camping, we leave with more rubbish than our own.
Hit the nail on the head, the worst offenders are the first to scream victim. Some years a great man on UA-cam Jim McNabb put out some 2 minute training videos on "How to crap in the outback Australia'...parts 1 & 2.... worth a look, and he doesn't mince words 😄
The sad part is, when these flogs are caught out & confronted, they flip the bird & mouth off or worse, try it on. The latter never ending well for the flogs. They're usually young "kids", only chronologicalyl adults. Their parents would no doubt be very proud...
I’ve yet to have one of the mutts square up they normally just yell “piss off” and keep driving or walking away or they’ll be a smart arse while walking away, I’d love for one to stay and square up honestly haha.
I had one mutt change his oil, leaving an oily puddle, with the used filter and box from the new filter sitting in it, he had his family (kids) with him. The next time i spotted him we had a few words, he was super angry that i dared talking to him.
@@StC-j5k I'd have been tempted to dig up his crap & bag it, then "leave it with him"... after taking some pics & reporting the grub to the EPA. The grub was only angry because you'd caught him & called him out, in front of his family. I'd bet his Mrs was really impressed with his behaviour, too.
I had similar incident in my home town. We had a bullride event. And initially I thought is was awesome to see our sleepy town full of people spending money. But then I realised most of the money was spent at travelling traders at the showgrounds. But the worst thing was the next day. We have a beautiful waterfall and swimming and picnic area just on the edge of town. And because lots of the visitors went there as well they turned it into a freakin garbage tip. I literally nearly cried. Some humans need to lift they're game or stay home.
@gunterbecker8528 Now yes. Then no. But I had no one's head to rip off over it so over time the anger disapates. It lookes almost as bad as what's left after an environmental activist rally.
Same with pristine areas in Cape York, it also makes my blood boil, I can't fathom why people do this, it's not hard to dig a hole, I also burn the paper in the hole. As usual people ruining it for people !!!
Went through the same experience (11:02 minutes) a couple of months back in Nth Queensland. Absolutely magic spot, free camp on private property, but spoiled by people who can't be bothered disposing of toilet paper properly. We gathered what we could and carried it out a few days later to be disposed of properly.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, so true and so disgusting. As a woman, I am surmising that the episodes of 'dryish' paper were left by women. Come on, ladies! This is not acceptable! (And yes. I've carry gloves and a bag in the back of my Prado and cleaned up similar disgusting messes, too, on a regular basis.)
Alot of people truly have no idea regarding fires and toilets, it worries me with the amount of hipcampers and airbnbs now set up in rural bush areas, it's only a matter of time before everything gets locked out or burnt to the ground!!! Your right, its the same people that do it that whinge the parks are closed.
Good on ya for disposing of the poo tickets. We carry a special set of tongs just for that dirty task. Burn it or bin it. We travelled across Australia from Perth to Cape York during Covid in 2021. There was barely any rubbish at the free camping areas it had all be cleaned up. The only people travelling were experienced Australians . Makes you think 🤔.
Yeah I find the further out you go the more respected the areas are. These people don’t like travelling too far. Thank you for watching and safe travels 👍
Cuddus to you mate,call it out as it is. I’m a veteran prospector and seen this BS for years,like it takes minutes to hide your footprints and clean you stuff up but for some clowns it just doesn’t register
I used to be a Ranger until i retired recently and i actually know where you camped (its one of the more popular sites on the river, and its always a lot of fun during the Easter LWE, some people have been going there for generations). Honestly people need to take ownership back, work with DBCA (DBCA are not the enemy here), and build a community, because as you said If you don't campsites will get closed. I actually closed a campsite not far from there, it seemed to be only frequented by males in there jacked Patrols and Landcruiser's, they used to leave all there rubbish behind, would cut down trees to build themselves individual camping areas, there was always a fire going (even during summer) and these fires were always smouldering Monday morning. No matter how polite i was in pointing out the issues i was ignored. So, i took a grader to the campsite and ripped it and the access track all the way back to the main road. No more access. I walked in there years later and nature had reclaimed the site. The Forests and Gazetted Recreation Reserves are for the people, they are there to be an asset, they are to be enjoyed, our management is vitally important (and that includes everybody who uses them), we are the custodian's for future generations.
I couldn’t agree with you more there, I try and promote responsible off-roading and camping and leave no trace but tyre marks. Most will agree and do the same but these people that do this sort of thing are only in it for themselves, they don’t care about anything else unfortunately.
With regards to the rubbish, many years ago especially during long weekends the shires would put large dumpsters outside most larger towns so campers could dispose of rubbish on their way home. Mansfield had a couple of sites.
I instantly knew this was gonna be about rubbish littering and campfire irresponsibility. l hate being right but l absolutely despise these inconsiderate c u next tuesday's who rubbish Australia & leave fires/hot coals/embers/cig butts etc behind. As a former active member of NSW RFS, this is completely unacceptable imho. Good Work posting this important C.S.A 👍🇦🇺
I've noticed in the last month or 2 across multiple youtube channels the same disgusting grubby acts....They need to be held accountable.....Just a few spoiling it for the majority....
Not camping, but, there are, or were a few spots in the hills near Perth that were great for night time viewing. Great to just go for a drive there, sit back, enjoy the view and relax. All closed now. For similar reasons.
I know this will cop some serious flack, but I’ll throw it out there anyway: do we introduce camping licenses like we do fishing licenses? Teach people what to actually do and have it monitored? Because free campers are our own worst enemy at this point and it seems most efforts are falling in deaf ears…
As long as it is Policed then it’s an option but the trouble is unless it’s a paid campground, how often to you actually see a Ranger patrolling an area.
No. We don't need more regulation, we need responsibility. Us that do the right thing need to be the authority out there. If you see someone doing the wrong thing photos, name and shame. Use the power of social media.
100%, could not agree more, the vocal minority always impact the silent majority. Broken glass is another one. Hopefully, if it was a paid site, you can report it.
First of all thanks man for cleaning it up, whilst there are plenty of people who recognize this is just plain wrong, not everyone would take one for the team and clean it up, so cheers. Now, you're either being nice in regards to the number of people who are actually like this or West Aussies are a cut above those of us from the east because unfortunately I find this seems to be the norm , especially in areas within an hour or so from a big city. I used to say that people were animals, yet, a lot of animals actually instinctively make an effort to cover their tracks. A lot of people are far worse than animals and some people, while acknowledging this is just bullshit behavior, would make no effort to clean up after others.
@perth4b4adventures I am totally blown away! Some places over here I would put the peeps like us in the 1% club, complete reverse. I mentioned in another comment about a spot on the Murray just out of Echuca. None of them give a shit, and it's mostly the locals that are the worst culprits. I have found it's usually spots within an hour from a fair sized city, the rural ones being the worst culprits. It's unfortunate.
Good onya mate👍 Its a sad state of affairs that people even need to be told because its such simple basic common sense to clean up your own shit let alone remove any trash you find. Ive seen my fav spot trashed so many times its no longer a fav and i have cleaned up so much crap its just become ridiculous! Worst one i came across was about 150 empty bottles and cans along with a trashed hatch back . . . . There has been a renegade laying spikes regularly which hasbruined a lit of probably decent folks tyres over the years. I can understand why the renegade does it but its not the right approach at all. I dont think there is any real answer besides calling out aomeone if you see it happening, but that risks personal safety big time cos there are too many nutters out and about theae days. Even making people pay wont work because then they think they have even more rights to do it. Shutting them down is probably the only real option sometimes. Perhaps paying for a key to access may work to a degree but then people just vandalise I just continue to do a clean up when necessary I wouldve been chucking that paper on the fire myself Just been to the voc high country and it wasnt too bad around buckland park area. They have a long drop at each camp area so that probably helps minimise the shit tickets being lwdt around even though some spots were packed with campers i didnt see much rubbish
Yeah all we can do is keep cleaning up after the grubs. I didn’t have my fire lit at that point plus I have a portable fire pit that I cooked on so I didn’t really want my food flavoured with someone’s shit tickets 🙂
Total agree even if I feel the fire was a bigger concern as we head into a reported to be a hot summer. Another big concern of mine is damage down by bloody vandals of public property who are ripping up wet/boggy roads and tracks (and bushland) just for their own personal fun. Roads I could drive on (mostly on the Murray River) 20 years ago in a 2wd wagons are now so ripped up to the point I can't drive there in a 4x4 . As soon as the locked gates go up we all know who will cry the most .
Yes this is very true and I did focus on the fire in the main video which comes out in January but the rant here was the shit tickets. Maybe I should do another one on the fire 👍 And yeah I hate the vandals to. I mean I go into some historical ruins and see graffiti that says Tracey was here and I think why, nobody cares if she was 🤦♂️
Its, heart breaking to visit beautiful places in our travels and see just how disgusting some people are . I will never get my head around the mind set of these grubs with there rubbish and filthy behaviour. Then they get in their vehicle destroying the place driving up sensitive areas and just drive away. Its always saddens me every time.
Oallen ford nsw has banned camping due to people leaving rubbish everywhere. It's not the prospectors most of the time it's people camping and having party's. Alcohol bottles and cans make up a lot of the rubbish
Im ex military. When we were out in bush we would dig a regulation "shit pit". A slit trench about 18" deep . Filled in and packed with extra dirt for good measure when we moved on . Simple, easy and hygenic.
I cannot work out idiots who leave trash like that behind. When we leave a camp, we make sure we take cut cable ties, bottle tops (if we even drop them) etc. we certainly don’t leave toilet paper, tissues or wipes! Disgusting!
Mate, same with some people who call themselves fisherman. Don't know how many times I've rolled up to my favourite fishing spot to find rubbish, cans and bottles, unused bait rotting in the sun, used plastic bait bags and heaps of ciggy butts lying around. To take the cake the last time I was there, a crude fire pit had been made by people the night before as there was scorched grass and ash. This is in a public park 3 klm's from the Sydney CBD. Cleaned it up of course, but that's not the point. Only a matter of time until the local Council bans fishing altogether in the area. The Council cleaning crew rocked up while I was fishing and advised it's a regular occurrence.
More road side stops r filthy then they clean, no way coffee jars and heavy items fly out a wheelie bins, a sea of rubbish is a continue sighting. Not hard to take rubbish to a bin
For years I have found every site I arrive at needs to be cleaned up. I think there was a whole industry in getting certain types of people to move from V8 utes to modding 4WDs and bush-bashing in them. Those people have no interest in nature and care little for how they affect other people. They don't care if these sites are lost because of their actions
Went out camping to a gate code entry spot , and tfen lat invthe night a group arrived making a lot of noise and found their site and left the car running with headlights into my site , so i could see how this was going to end up so i packed up and left .
These would be the same irresponsible people who will go to a public concert where you can sit on the grass or even sit at a basketball gathering , drop there rubbish and then pretend they are blind and just walk off and I too just dont get it These people they too like a Kleene campsite as long as someone else does the clean up .The silly part is they know who they are and what they are doing And what they are teaching their kids. Anyway thanks for making our bit of the world that much better than it could have been.
You and many other utubers are calling this out for what it is. I do feel it falling on def ears. I take my hat off to you for cleaning up other people’s mess. Thankyou. We do the same by carrying rubbish bags with us . I do feel this is all we can do 😢
Brought a self contained camper ,often in pristine bush, I'd go to pick up rubbish ,and it's usually a pooh ,makes u angry ,it's often budget tourism, NZ new laws no camping unless self contained, or doc camp ground with toilets. It got so bad .
I haven’t gone to a campsite in the last ten years that hasn’t had bottles, dunny paper or general rubbish strewn everywhere around the place. Even paid campsites like Logue Brook Dam, a short walk into the scrub near the sites has a thick layer of toilet paper just where the bush obscures sight, not to mention the mountain of crap left behind after New Years that took a bobcat and half a dozen truckloads to clear. Absolute pigs. You hit the nail on the head, quite simply they just don’t care.
People leaving their shit and paper was a problem when we were on the road around Oz 10 years ago. 90% of campsites would have used dunny paper very near to where we would want to camp. The pigs couldn't even walk a 15 metres into the bush. It was annoying about to set up our camp and discover (from the stink) turds and paper a few metres away
Pretty disappointing & disgusting. Im sorry you came across this but I'm very respectful of you cleaning up after them. Ive been with you on 4wd adventures,, helping cleanup after others but not to that extent, cudos to you my friend.
Good behaviour is valued because it is rare. I see it is common for people to sleep on the roof instead of in the ground. People have lost the meaning of camping. Returning to nature and contact with the Earth.
Same problem with prospectors in WA. Gold price is up so lots of people out there but they , dont know how many. leave their manners behind. great piles of bottles , cans , gerneral rubbish n yes unburied human faeces. Then complaints get made n access restricted. Please, it isnt that hard to take your rubbish away.
The road side camps are the worst. We camped 5 kms down stream from a South Coast service station and boy how we never got sick i do not know. The camp fire should be left safe as how many children have stepped into hot camp fire. The Collie area are having huge issues with out of season camp fires. The day is coming like in the Eastern states camps are being shut down
It is disgusting mate. But you really don't need to pick it up. It will break down quite quickly and provide mulch for the ground. Humans are grots mate.
Parks and Wildlife need to be a lot more pro-active as well in enforcing the rules which these grubs break on a regular basis . I have even seen what you would expect to be a respectable family as in “ young parents with 2 very young children in tow “ cut down trees , use native wood in there campfires going outside of the provided fire pits ,disposable nappies left in the bush etc etc . Not too mention the large groups of usually P Platers and there obnoxiously loud 4 WD’s blaring “ doof doof “ music all day long and half the night . Here in Qld ,parks and wild life do not do absolutely any thing about the problem , especially since they implemented the on - line booking system …. what a joke that turned out to be . Ghost camping is a huge problem in Qld and nothing has or will be done about it . I for one am thinking of selling all my camping gear , just had enough of these inconsiderate morons .
Yeah we are basically getting the same problem over here by a similar crowd. This age group don’t watch the responsible content, only the channels that promote bad behaviour and the destruction of vehicles and tracks. You need to go very remote to get away from it as these people can’t seem to drive to far over here.
I agree… this should not have been left their. I have been a ranger for KABC to catch people trashing. OK. But… you don’t need to bag it & take it away. Just dig a hole & burry it. It is all bio degradable. Cheers TJ in Casuarina WA
Some people just need to learn the hard way and handed a big fine that hurts. But cops are needed to catch them. Or maybe stealth cameras to catch them.
We all make this sort of video from time to time because we know the damage it does to our abaility to enjoy camping. I have to wonder if any of the idiots who do these things ever see our videos? I am coming to the conclusion that it should be illegal to camp anywhere that does not have toilet facilities without a portable toilet on board.
To be fair TP is 100% biodegradable and super quickly too - within a week or less it would be completely broken down and gone. I mean, as far as rubbish goes, it is 1 million times better than plastics, bottles, cans, etc. Whatever...
So you don’t mind other peoples shitty toilet paper blowing through your campsite and into the water way? There was heaps of old toilet paper around been there for a lot longer than a week I can tell you. Yes it breaks down but if you think it’s ok then 🤦♂️
@@perth4b4adventures not saying i would want it or that i wouldn't mind - i would think it's gross yeah - but i mean, on the whole, there are much worse rubbishes left by jerks at these sites -- i've personally driven over piles of broken bottle glass, found half-burried bags of plastic wrapers, cans and junk and even discarded broken camping chairs and ripped up awnings etc which would sit out there for decades. TP will disappear within a couple of days once it gets wet.
Paul if U fell over & happened to get some dog doo doo on Ur arm would U wipe it with paper only or wash it with water? What I find absolutely disgusting is Australians walking around with semi clean butts. Toilet paper alone is not enough for a proper clean
Because I have a portable fire pit and I was cooking on it and I didn’t particularly want burnt shitty toilet paper in my dinner 👍 and besides that my fire wasn’t lit at this point in time.
Yeah a good message for sure but I'm sure the grubs won't pay any attention to it. Same as the flogs who rip up the tracks for social media views. The other thing that will happen is that prices will keep going up for camps as those in charge have to spend more to clean up these messes. One place we go to now is $51.50 per night. It is a great camp but it's a fair bit of money to sleep on the ground imo. We used to pay about 70-80 bucks a night for a cabin on holiday auctions a few years back.
Yep and that there is the problem. Will go there one day and there will be giant rocks and holes blocking off the campsite. That’s the only way to stop it unfortunately.
@@perth4b4adventures I am Kempsey nsw and mtb, the new trails in a state park have rubbished dumped frequently, it sucks. Different scenario but same type of people. Good video.
Australians need to take note of places like Baja in America. The 4wd community were faced with losing their tracks and camp sites until the 4wd community started banding together and people named and shamed the idiots. The tracks and campsites are pristine now every vehicle has a spare wheel bag and there’s no rubbish. They knew that if it was allowed to continue they would lose their right to access those areas. Don’t be intimidated by these clowns speak up if you see it and let the whole world know if they are grubs.
I couldn’t agree more 👍
Are you from America?
Totally agree mate. I’ve always followed the mantra “leave nothing but footprints”. Really angers me (especially as a landscape photographer) when I find a beautiful spot only to find some rubbish left by people - was at dunes north of Jurien Bay and found a decent spot for photography with a lone tree sticking out of the dune. At the base of the tree we’re an empty beer can and bottle. I couldn’t clear them as that would have left footprints in the sand which would have ruined the shot. Really pees me off when we have the most beautiful pristine environment and it’s ruined by thoughtless, selfish people. Keep spreading the word mate 👍
Cheers mate and yeah, it s very annoying.
Couldn’t upthumb this enough! Good on you Paul for focussing on this tissue issue. If we all left camp sites better than we found them the environment would be pristine for all to enjoy, instead its just those who have respect cleaning up after the sloppy dogs that leave this mess behind.
100% correct mate, cheers 👍
I've seen the same in some very isolated areas.
Another big issue are crumpled tissues on bush tracks.
And then there’s wet wipes 🤦♂️
Well said, well done and well done again for highlighting the issue. The mentality of the drones that do this escapes me, it needs to rammed home that this is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE! Crazy. 🙄
Cheers and thanks, name and shame I reckon.
I filmed something similar in the exact area a few years ago. Same thing. Tickets and rubbish dumped all the bush up the back there. Nothing will change. Nothing has changed. I pushed pretty hard trying to put the message out. It falls on deaf ears. It’s a shame. Camping has become too big for its own good with too many folk with no idea (and no desire) to camp with respect. I’ve mostly given up on free camping spots and have gone back to camping in mostly Hipcamp and paid areas as I would rather exchange a bit of noise for not having to see this anymore. It’s cool to be able to say “we’re free camping, we’re so remote, no ones around”, but it’s not worth the aggravation anymore. Also why I’ve been camping 3 times this year and have lost my drive.
I applaud you putting it out there though.
Yeah I know you’ve been struggling with it mate it does get hard. I would rather go very remote then camp or even 4wd close to Perth. Too many shall we say disrespectful people to deal with.
Onya Matt !👍
You hit the nail on the head mate with “ Camping has become too big for its own good “ that’s exactly half the problem with so many inconsiderate and thoughtless idiots with no respect for other campers .
Good to see you posting mate.
Hopefully you can rediscover your mojo as I really enjoyed your videos.
Take care.
@@reddyman6915 I was talking to our mechanic a while back and he was telling me how different it was these days to when they used to go years ago.
A lot of what used to be the once in a lifetime trips are now like country roads in comparison.
Things like the Simpson or Cape York are very crowded as it seems like everyone is taking a year off and doing a lap of Australia.
I'm from Victoria and I used to trail bike ride alot. I cannot count the times I would pull up to a remote river site and see not only toilet tickets and rubbish everywhere, but disposable nappies disgustingly thrown in every direction around the bush. I do not mean a couple but a lot,it's absolutely a disgrace how people treat our beautiful landscape.
Yeah it’s happening everywhere unfortunately 😢
Hey Paul ! Just moved from NSW ,Camping in the eastern states is very policed now days due to this problem. Let’s keep this place WA the gem that it is !
Cheers Paul we need more like you !👍👌
Thank you for your kind words and thank you for watching 👍
great vid Paul, this sort of thing we see a lot of all along the coast and we will continue to clean up the rubbish, if we don't someone has to be paid or the tracks will be closed
Cheers mate and yeah, we will just keep plugging away.
My animals are cleaner than these people who leave all their crap behind 🤬
Yeah I’m hearing you
Im from jurien bay and we had a shack at sandy cape until the shire in its wisdom decided to demolish them all in the name of saving the dunes, they then bulldozed the dunes and put a road into it so the perth masses could destroy the place. What was our free, beautiful, quiet little place is now a trashed overcrowded payed camp. The truth is the problems start as soon as the city folk move in not a popular opinion but the truth. Have seen the same thing all up and down the coast and it creates a lot of animosity amongst rural communities. So just remember when your camping in areas like this that its somebodys backyard and treat it as such.
Yep it's a combination of a poor entitled attitude, laziness and lack of preparation before heading out. I've cleaned up a few campsites myself even when I haven't been staying there! I do it because I don't want these places shut down and it absolutely pisses me off! I'm yet to catch a bastard in the act but when I do they're going to wish they never did it in the first place! The campfire still burning is an absolute disgrace too! How stupid are these people to not realise that it'll quickly cause a fire that could end up like over east a few years back! Absolute flogs!
Yep I find this every time I go to this area it’s an absolute disgrace and only a matter of time before it’s shutdown
Well said mate. Unfortunately it's fighting an uphill battle. A lot of people don't give a rats arse anymore. Everywhere we go, camping or 4wding, there's rubbish. It's disgusting and disappointing. It's still early in the season now but there's already been plenty of bushfires already. Every time we go camping, we leave with more rubbish than our own.
Cheers mate and yeah, this is why I prefer to drive 6 hours then find camp 😂
Hit the nail on the head, the worst offenders are the first to scream victim. Some years a great man on UA-cam Jim McNabb put out some 2 minute training videos on "How to crap in the outback Australia'...parts 1 & 2.... worth a look, and he doesn't mince words 😄
They sure are 👍
The sad part is, when these flogs are caught out & confronted, they flip the bird & mouth off or worse, try it on. The latter never ending well for the flogs.
They're usually young "kids", only chronologicalyl adults. Their parents would no doubt be very proud...
I’ve yet to have one of the mutts square up they normally just yell “piss off” and keep driving or walking away or they’ll be a smart arse while walking away, I’d love for one to stay and square up honestly haha.
100% correct there Kevin 👍
I had one mutt change his oil, leaving an oily puddle, with the used filter and box from the new filter sitting in it, he had his family (kids) with him. The next time i spotted him we had a few words, he was super angry that i dared talking to him.
@@StC-j5k I'd have been tempted to dig up his crap & bag it, then "leave it with him"... after taking some pics & reporting the grub to the EPA.
The grub was only angry because you'd caught him & called him out, in front of his family. I'd bet his Mrs was really impressed with his behaviour, too.
I had similar incident in my home town. We had a bullride event. And initially I thought is was awesome to see our sleepy town full of people spending money. But then I realised most of the money was spent at travelling traders at the showgrounds. But the worst thing was the next day. We have a beautiful waterfall and swimming and picnic area just on the edge of town. And because lots of the visitors went there as well they turned it into a freakin garbage tip. I literally nearly cried. Some humans need to lift they're game or stay home.
Yeah some of them just don’t care but I would guess they wouldn’t do it in their own backyard.
You r very polite about it !
@gunterbecker8528 Now yes. Then no. But I had no one's head to rip off over it so over time the anger disapates. It lookes almost as bad as what's left after an environmental activist rally.
@gunterbecker8528 yes well it is UA-cam 😂😂
Same with pristine areas in Cape York, it also makes my blood boil, I can't fathom why people do this, it's not hard to dig a hole, I also burn the paper in the hole. As usual people ruining it for people !!!
Yeah I use to the same but now carry a chemical toilet, much easier on the aging body 😂
Cheers and thanks for watching 👍
Went through the same experience (11:02 minutes) a couple of months back in Nth Queensland. Absolutely magic spot, free camp on private property, but spoiled by people who can't be bothered disposing of toilet paper properly. We gathered what we could and carried it out a few days later to be disposed of properly.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, so true and so disgusting. As a woman, I am surmising that the episodes of 'dryish' paper were left by women. Come on, ladies! This is not acceptable! (And yes. I've carry gloves and a bag in the back of my Prado and cleaned up similar disgusting messes, too, on a regular basis.)
Your welcome and good on you too 👍
I was thinking the same thing. Glad you said it.
You see this everywhere and you really can't conclude anything other than what you've stated.
Women and kids are notorious for not dealing correctly with digging holes for waste
Alot of people truly have no idea regarding fires and toilets, it worries me with the amount of hipcampers and airbnbs now set up in rural bush areas, it's only a matter of time before everything gets locked out or burnt to the ground!!! Your right, its the same people that do it that whinge the parks are closed.
Good on ya for disposing of the poo tickets. We carry a special set of tongs just for that dirty task. Burn it or bin it.
We travelled across Australia from Perth to Cape York during Covid in 2021. There was barely any rubbish at the free camping areas it had all be cleaned up.
The only people travelling were experienced Australians . Makes you think 🤔.
Yeah I find the further out you go the more respected the areas are. These people don’t like travelling too far. Thank you for watching and safe travels 👍
Yeah fruckin lazy ignorant dogs, im seeing it everywhere,people just don't give a toss, really can't c it getting better
Yeah that’s the scary part mate 😢
Cuddus to you mate,call it out as it is.
I’m a veteran prospector and seen this BS for years,like it takes minutes to hide your footprints and clean you stuff up but for some clowns it just doesn’t register
I used to be a Ranger until i retired recently and i actually know where you camped (its one of the more popular sites on the river, and its always a lot of fun during the Easter LWE, some people have been going there for generations). Honestly people need to take ownership back, work with DBCA (DBCA are not the enemy here), and build a community, because as you said If you don't campsites will get closed.
I actually closed a campsite not far from there, it seemed to be only frequented by males in there jacked Patrols and Landcruiser's, they used to leave all there rubbish behind, would cut down trees to build themselves individual camping areas, there was always a fire going (even during summer) and these fires were always smouldering Monday morning. No matter how polite i was in pointing out the issues i was ignored. So, i took a grader to the campsite and ripped it and the access track all the way back to the main road. No more access. I walked in there years later and nature had reclaimed the site.
The Forests and Gazetted Recreation Reserves are for the people, they are there to be an asset, they are to be enjoyed, our management is vitally important (and that includes everybody who uses them), we are the custodian's for future generations.
I couldn’t agree with you more there, I try and promote responsible off-roading and camping and leave no trace but tyre marks. Most will agree and do the same but these people that do this sort of thing are only in it for themselves, they don’t care about anything else unfortunately.
With regards to the rubbish, many years ago especially during long weekends the shires would put large dumpsters outside most larger towns so campers could dispose of rubbish on their way home. Mansfield had a couple of sites.
I instantly knew this was gonna be about rubbish littering and campfire irresponsibility.
l hate being right but l absolutely despise these inconsiderate c u next tuesday's who rubbish Australia & leave fires/hot coals/embers/cig butts etc behind.
As a former active member of NSW RFS, this is completely unacceptable imho.
Good Work posting this important C.S.A 👍🇦🇺
Cheers and thank you.
Geez! It's friggin' everywhere!
Sure is.
I've noticed in the last month or 2 across multiple youtube channels the same disgusting grubby acts....They need to be held accountable.....Just a few spoiling it for the majority....
Yeah that’s pretty much it.
Before cane toads arrived in Kakadu, the biggest killer of wildlife was used tampons discarded around campsites.
You're not wrong mate, I see this stuff everywhere as well. Disgusting just doesn't say enough. Cheers Steve
I just don’t get it hey 🤷♂️
@@perth4b4adventures Yep. the old saying is " Ya cant fix stupid, not even with Duct tape"
@scottpage81 it’s pretty bad hey
loved that intro Paul, keep up the good work
Also, its a dam disgrace how some people leave the bush, no respect!
Cheers mate and yeah you’re right there.
And we wonder why more and more places are being locked up or made illegal to camp in 🤦♂️
Pretty much.
Not camping, but, there are, or were a few spots in the hills near Perth that were great for night time viewing. Great to just go for a drive there, sit back, enjoy the view and relax. All closed now. For similar reasons.
Yep and this is why, they just don’t get it and of course, it’s not their fault it’s the government apparently 🤦♂️
The 1 per cent of us that haven’t Evolved yet, or may be never will .
I’ll take the second option 👍
I know this will cop some serious flack, but I’ll throw it out there anyway: do we introduce camping licenses like we do fishing licenses? Teach people what to actually do and have it monitored? Because free campers are our own worst enemy at this point and it seems most efforts are falling in deaf ears…
As long as it is Policed then it’s an option but the trouble is unless it’s a paid campground, how often to you actually see a Ranger patrolling an area.
Fair idea!✔️
No. We don't need more regulation, we need responsibility. Us that do the right thing need to be the authority out there. If you see someone doing the wrong thing photos, name and shame. Use the power of social media.
100%, could not agree more, the vocal minority always impact the silent majority. Broken glass is another one.
Hopefully, if it was a paid site, you can report it.
No it wasn’t mate it’s a free site that probably gets smashed every weekend.
I HATE when people litter the bush!
Not REAL campers/out door people!
I’m hearing ya 👍
@@perth4b4adventures Good!
Keep up the good work!
First of all thanks man for cleaning it up, whilst there are plenty of people who recognize this is just plain wrong, not everyone would take one for the team and clean it up, so cheers.
Now, you're either being nice in regards to the number of people who are actually like this or West Aussies are a cut above those of us from the east because unfortunately I find this seems to be the norm , especially in areas within an hour or so from a big city. I used to say that people were animals, yet, a lot of animals actually instinctively make an effort to cover their tracks. A lot of people are far worse than animals and some people, while acknowledging this is just bullshit behavior, would make no effort to clean up after others.
We call them the 1% club but there is more. Cheers mate 👍
@perth4b4adventures I am totally blown away! Some places over here I would put the peeps like us in the 1% club, complete reverse. I mentioned in another comment about a spot on the Murray just out of Echuca. None of them give a shit, and it's mostly the locals that are the worst culprits. I have found it's usually spots within an hour from a fair sized city, the rural ones being the worst culprits. It's unfortunate.
@arthurdent6828 yeah these grubs don’t like travelling far.
Good onya mate👍
Its a sad state of affairs that people even need to be told because its such simple basic common sense to clean up your own shit let alone remove any trash you find.
Ive seen my fav spot trashed so many times its no longer a fav and i have cleaned up so much crap its just become ridiculous!
Worst one i came across was about 150 empty bottles and cans along with a trashed hatch back . . . .
There has been a renegade laying spikes regularly which hasbruined a lit of probably decent folks tyres over the years. I can understand why the renegade does it but its not the right approach at all.
I dont think there is any real answer besides calling out aomeone if you see it happening, but that risks personal safety big time cos there are too many nutters out and about theae days.
Even making people pay wont work because then they think they have even more rights to do it.
Shutting them down is probably the only real option sometimes.
Perhaps paying for a key to access may work to a degree but then people just vandalise
I just continue to do a clean up when necessary
I wouldve been chucking that paper on the fire myself
Just been to the voc high country and it wasnt too bad around buckland park area. They have a long drop at each camp area so that probably helps minimise the shit tickets being lwdt around even though some spots were packed with campers i didnt see much rubbish
Yeah all we can do is keep cleaning up after the grubs. I didn’t have my fire lit at that point plus I have a portable fire pit that I cooked on so I didn’t really want my food flavoured with someone’s shit tickets 🙂
Total agree even if I feel the fire was a bigger concern as we head into a reported to be a hot summer.
Another big concern of mine is damage down by bloody vandals of public property who are ripping up wet/boggy roads and tracks (and bushland) just for their own personal fun. Roads I could drive on (mostly on the Murray River) 20 years ago in a 2wd wagons are now so ripped up to the point I can't drive there in a 4x4 .
As soon as the locked gates go up we all know who will cry the most .
Yes this is very true and I did focus on the fire in the main video which comes out in January but the rant here was the shit tickets. Maybe I should do another one on the fire 👍
And yeah I hate the vandals to. I mean I go into some historical ruins and see graffiti that says Tracey was here and I think why, nobody cares if she was 🤦♂️
I have seen the idiots in 4 wheel drives seeing how far they can get in 2wd before engaging 4wd ... not caring how much they rip up the tracks
Its, heart breaking to visit beautiful places in our travels and see just how disgusting some people are .
I will never get my head around the mind set of these grubs with there rubbish and filthy behaviour.
Then they get in their vehicle destroying the place driving up sensitive areas and just drive away.
Its always saddens me every time.
Yeah that’s pretty much it hey.
I see this everywhere all around Australia.
Yeah closer to civilisation the worse it gets, these grubs don’t like driving to far.
This will close these areas forever.
Yep
Oallen ford nsw has banned camping due to people leaving rubbish everywhere. It's not the prospectors most of the time it's people camping and having party's. Alcohol bottles and cans make up a lot of the rubbish
Im ex military. When we were out in bush we would dig a regulation "shit pit". A slit trench about 18" deep . Filled in and packed with extra dirt for good measure when we moved on . Simple, easy and hygenic.
Thanks for making such interesting content.
You’re welcome
I cannot work out idiots who leave trash like that behind. When we leave a camp, we make sure we take cut cable ties, bottle tops (if we even drop them) etc. we certainly don’t leave toilet paper, tissues or wipes! Disgusting!
Mate, same with some people who call themselves fisherman. Don't know how many times I've rolled up to my favourite fishing spot to find rubbish, cans and bottles, unused bait rotting in the sun, used plastic bait bags and heaps of ciggy butts lying around. To take the cake the last time I was there, a crude fire pit had been made by people the night before as there was scorched grass and ash. This is in a public park 3 klm's from the Sydney CBD. Cleaned it up of course, but that's not the point. Only a matter of time until the local Council bans fishing altogether in the area. The Council cleaning crew rocked up while I was fishing and advised it's a regular occurrence.
Yeah seems to be happening everywhere in some shape of form, bloody grubs with no respect.
3km from Sydney CBD? U can be pretty sure it wasn't Aussies that did that
@@EddieSmith917 I didn't want to single out any particular group but you get my drift.
More road side stops r filthy then they clean, no way coffee jars and heavy items fly out a wheelie bins, a sea of rubbish is a continue sighting. Not hard to take rubbish to a bin
For years I have found every site I arrive at needs to be cleaned up. I think there was a whole industry in getting certain types of people to move from V8 utes to modding 4WDs and bush-bashing in them. Those people have no interest in nature and care little for how they affect other people. They don't care if these sites are lost because of their actions
Yeah I think you’re dead right there, hoon laws drove them offroad
We’ll remember this decade when Bogans could afford 4wd’s instead of falcons and commodores….
Hoon laws brought it on.
Went out camping to a gate code entry spot , and tfen lat invthe night a group arrived making a lot of noise and found their site and left the car running with headlights into my site , so i could see how this was going to end up so i packed up and left .
I feel your frustration. Does my head in.
Mine too 😡
The Murray is like that.They are thinking of closing it all down.
Doesn’t surprise me.
Omg, it's probably the worst at Christies Beach, just out of Echuca, that Ive ever dealt with.
These would be the same irresponsible people who will go to a public concert where you can sit on the grass or even sit at a basketball gathering , drop there rubbish and then pretend they are blind and just walk off and I too just dont get it These people they too like a Kleene campsite as long as someone else does the clean up .The silly part is they know who they are and what they are doing And what they are teaching their kids. Anyway thanks for making our bit of the world that much better than it could have been.
Yes it’s very very frustrating and thank you 🙏
You and many other utubers are calling this out for what it is. I do feel it falling on def ears. I take my hat off to you for cleaning up other people’s mess. Thankyou. We do the same by carrying rubbish bags with us . I do feel this is all we can do 😢
@peterscolaro4889 yeah I think you’re pretty much right there, just gotta keep plugging away.
Brought a self contained camper ,often in pristine bush, I'd go to pick up rubbish ,and it's usually a pooh ,makes u angry ,it's often budget tourism, NZ new laws no camping unless self contained, or doc camp ground with toilets. It got so bad .
I haven’t gone to a campsite in the last ten years that hasn’t had bottles, dunny paper or general rubbish strewn everywhere around the place. Even paid campsites like Logue Brook Dam, a short walk into the scrub near the sites has a thick layer of toilet paper just where the bush obscures sight, not to mention the mountain of crap left behind after New Years that took a bobcat and half a dozen truckloads to clear. Absolute pigs.
You hit the nail on the head, quite simply they just don’t care.
Yes it’s becoming a sad state of affairs 😢
People leaving their shit and paper was a problem when we were on the road around Oz 10 years ago.
90% of campsites would have used dunny paper very near to where we would want to camp.
The pigs couldn't even walk a 15 metres into the bush.
It was annoying about to set up our camp and discover (from the stink) turds and paper a few metres away
Yeah it’s pretty bad and most of the time you don’t realise until you’re already set up.
Pretty disappointing & disgusting. Im sorry you came across this but I'm very respectful of you cleaning up after them. Ive been with you on 4wd adventures,, helping cleanup after others but not to that extent, cudos to you my friend.
Cheers mate 👍
Why would they stop? You’ll pick it up.
Welcome to Australia 😊
When i was young we would go camping and when we left it was the same as we got there no rubbish thats why the owner of the property let us be there
Good on you brother, well done,
Cheers mate 👍
The big problem is more and more nowadays people don't care about anything beyond the end of thier nose.
Yes these are the self righteous people of our world 😡
Good on ya mate, I admire you.
Thank you 🙏
Good behaviour is valued because it is rare. I see it is common for people to sleep on the roof instead of in the ground. People have lost the meaning of camping. Returning to nature and contact with the Earth.
You’re dead right there and in the main video I was filming I actually ask this question 👍
Don't forget to turn the snags
Same problem with prospectors in WA. Gold price is up so lots of people out there but they , dont know how many. leave their manners behind. great piles of bottles , cans , gerneral rubbish n yes unburied human faeces. Then complaints get made n access restricted. Please, it isnt that hard to take your rubbish away.
Yeah the grubs are almost everywhere 😢
Even my cat would bury its own shit. These people are about as good as dogs.
Yeah it’s pretty disgraceful
The road side camps are the worst. We camped 5 kms down stream from a South Coast service station and boy how we never got sick i do not know. The camp fire should be left safe as how many children have stepped into hot camp fire. The Collie area are having huge issues with out of season camp fires. The day is coming like in the Eastern states camps are being shut down
Yeah it won’t be long before it’s registered camp site only 😢
BBQ tongs are so versatile !
What new awning did you get and do you rate it
The Crashpad Crash 180 freestanding awning. Only used it once so far but I do like it.
I blame the parents, should have taught them basic respect
Ive seen whole trailer loads of rubbish dumped in the bush way too many times
Yep and it’s usually tradies that don’t want to pay disposal fees, many have been prosecuted in Perth due to hidden cameras.
too many people camping now--- its stuffed
It is disgusting mate. But you really don't need to pick it up. It will break down quite quickly and provide mulch for the ground. Humans are grots mate.
Yeah I do as it was blowing all around the campsite and into the river, it’s an eyesore to be honest.
Drives me mad. Spend more time picking up after other people.
Not wrong there.
Parks and Wildlife need to be a lot more pro-active as well in enforcing the rules which these grubs break on a regular basis . I have even seen what you would expect to be a respectable family as in “ young parents with 2 very young children in tow “ cut down trees , use native wood in there campfires going outside of the provided fire pits ,disposable nappies left in the bush etc etc . Not too mention the large groups of usually P Platers and there obnoxiously loud 4 WD’s blaring “ doof doof “ music all day long and half the night . Here in Qld ,parks and wild life do not do absolutely any thing about the problem , especially since they implemented the on - line booking system …. what a joke that turned out to be . Ghost camping is a huge problem in Qld and nothing has or will be done about it . I for one am thinking of selling all my camping gear , just had enough of these inconsiderate morons .
Yeah we are basically getting the same problem over here by a similar crowd. This age group don’t watch the responsible content, only the channels that promote bad behaviour and the destruction of vehicles and tracks. You need to go very remote to get away from it as these people can’t seem to drive to far over here.
💯 percent bother
I agree… this should not have been left their. I have been a ranger for KABC to catch people trashing. OK. But… you don’t need to bag it & take it away. Just dig a hole & burry it. It is all bio degradable. Cheers TJ in Casuarina WA
Some people just need to learn the hard way and handed a big fine that hurts. But cops are needed to catch them. Or maybe stealth cameras to catch them.
That’s the trouble mate you rarely see a Ranger out there when it’s not a paid for camping ground.
I was there 10years left there via bike ten
How big are their holes if thats how much paper they need
In some parts of the country doing that would cost you two tyres
4:08 even picking it up with attitude!
We all make this sort of video from time to time because we know the damage it does to our abaility to enjoy camping. I have to wonder if any of the idiots who do these things ever see our videos? I am coming to the conclusion that it should be illegal to camp anywhere that does not have toilet facilities without a portable toilet on board.
The people that do this don’t watch our videos as we don’t do enough damage to our vehicles or the environment to engage their tiny minds.
How hard is it to dig a hole jesus disgraceful 😊
100%
Aaaaand you should not have to do that but thank you bro
Trying to make a difference 🙂
To be fair TP is 100% biodegradable and super quickly too - within a week or less it would be completely broken down and gone. I mean, as far as rubbish goes, it is 1 million times better than plastics, bottles, cans, etc. Whatever...
So you don’t mind other peoples shitty toilet paper blowing through your campsite and into the water way? There was heaps of old toilet paper around been there for a lot longer than a week I can tell you. Yes it breaks down but if you think it’s ok then 🤦♂️
@@perth4b4adventures not saying i would want it or that i wouldn't mind - i would think it's gross yeah - but i mean, on the whole, there are much worse rubbishes left by jerks at these sites -- i've personally driven over piles of broken bottle glass, found half-burried bags of plastic wrapers, cans and junk and even discarded broken camping chairs and ripped up awnings etc which would sit out there for decades. TP will disappear within a couple of days once it gets wet.
good on ya mate
Cheers.
Can't you burn the toilet paper?
Yes you can I think I mentioned it as an option in the video 👍
@perth4b4adventures OK, I didnt watch the whole video, but do share your anger about the situation.
Champion
Thee age-old question is answered - assholes do shit in the woods. I've seen this all over the place.
Yeah pretty much 👍
Karma will out
Paul if U fell over & happened to get some dog doo doo on Ur arm would U wipe it with paper only or wash it with water?
What I find absolutely disgusting is Australians walking around with semi clean butts. Toilet paper alone is not enough for a proper clean
You should see the road side pull in areas on the Albany Highway, disgusting.
Yeah I can imagine
Why didn't you light the toilet paper up ?
Because I have a portable fire pit and I was cooking on it and I didn’t particularly want burnt shitty toilet paper in my dinner 👍 and besides that my fire wasn’t lit at this point in time.
Yeah a good message for sure but I'm sure the grubs won't pay any attention to it.
Same as the flogs who rip up the tracks for social media views.
The other thing that will happen is that prices will keep going up for camps as those in charge have to spend more to clean up these messes.
One place we go to now is $51.50 per night. It is a great camp but it's a fair bit of money to sleep on the ground imo.
We used to pay about 70-80 bucks a night for a cabin on holiday auctions a few years back.
Yeah I don’t think my videos appeal to that age bracket and you are 100% right hey.
The old Poo Tickets! Happens everywhere and i doubt it will ever stop!
Yep and that there is the problem. Will go there one day and there will be giant rocks and holes blocking off the campsite. That’s the only way to stop it unfortunately.
Where was all the shit?
Mostly was used for wiping something else. Was a big one down by the river at the second spot.
Every section of our community who uses parks,mtb,motorcycle, ,jet skiers has a fwit anti social element. Wont stop unless there caught.
Yeah pretty much 👍
@@perth4b4adventures I am Kempsey nsw and mtb, the new trails in a state park have rubbished dumped frequently, it sucks. Different scenario but same type of people. Good video.
Cheers mate 👍