Yeah these modern engines are being pushed to the limits of physics because of environmental regulations, smaller displacements, higher rail pressures and advanced timing, gotta say you guys have a tremendous attitude you’d a lovely couple, good luck with everything
You guys have had a gut wrenching experience . The person who put that chip in the car is responsible for not informing you of the risk putting the pump under stress , the designing engineers had not allowed for this. Good luck with it all , and I hope you get back soon. I went the rooftop tent on a 8 x 4 basic trailer.... kitchen water , electrical , solar , longrange fuel tank all onboard Navara , a swag and awning for me and rooftop for Mrs Or grandkids or friends.... super light , no need for chip...(these cars are not meant to tow alot , they havent got the grunt). Drop the big fancy cara is my humble advice.
Thanks for your kind words. Yes, that poor little Ute. We love our rooftop tent. We have a lot of decisions to make. We'll be on the road soon to pick up the caravan.... yes, with the same triton - don't have a choice, but we'll nurse it home then work out what to do then. Thanks for watching, it really helps our little channel. Happy travels! Anya
So sorry to see what's happened. These types of vids are popping up on my feed. I watched one recently about a couple who blew their Prado engine. It was caused by a hole in their radiator, which had a chain reaction and catastrophic end. Insurance covered them because the hole could've been caused by a passing truck or car flicking up a stone. They were lucky to have their repairs under insurance. Really scares me as we are heading west for 3-4 months next year and seeing a few of these awful outcomes where good folk are stranded and thousands of dollars in repairs. 😢
Thank you! Unfortunately, this is furtherest we've travelled up to date and the first time anything major has happened and it's cost us around $25,000. All I can say is don't modify your vehicle so you don't lose your warranty, have RAA highest cover, make sure you have a reliable insurance company that will cover all your needs, and then it's in the hands of the gods! If we can afford to keep going, we will because we love it so much. Don't let my bad luck scare you from your adventures! 👍😎👍
Not really. A good ecu remap will still keep the motor within its makers specs . All motors are sent from the factory in a detuned state to cover warranties and emissions as well as the highly variable temperature extrems in different countries. A mild retune can transform your vehicle. There many tens of thousands with remaps that run perfectly. I,d like to a decent mechanics report on what the motor to let go as I doubt the remap is responsible unless it was a high output remap.
@@iandickinson342 None of what you posted makes a difference if you have problems and you want the manufacturer to pay for them. I also really don't understand why so many feel the need to rush out and try and get more power out of their vehicles the whole time. People used to tow or go off road decades ago with a whole lot less power/torque than now and still managed to go around Australia or do the remote tracks. Maybe feeling like they need to drag their whole life with them is part of the problem? Do you do remaps by any chance?
@@peter112999 I had an ML 3.2 as well, 260,000+klm still running very well when I sold it. I did give it a good flush out when I bought it at 205,000klm and ran like a clock. The 3.2 engine itself sold me as it was slightly improved for power by Mitsubishi for the Pajero but still not over tuned like their newer diesels. I said to my son the other day, its perfect...Its over engineered and under tuned.
Don't know about old school truck engines but my parents had a Pajero with the 4m40t and it did 5 engines in the space of getting to 450,000 3 rear diff housing that cracked 4 gear boxs after that none of our family has entertained the idea of owning a Mitsubishi since well to be fair it was compared against a landcriuser which is present at 9900000 on the same engine.
Hi guys, you are correct in your assessment of modern automobile engine disasters. No manufacturer is immune. Nowadays, the accountants are running engineering. Boeing Aircraft Corporation is a great example of cost cutting. The truth be known, engines have become smaller, weigh less, and produce more power. This is not a formula is durability. A touring couple I know, in the last few years have had, Prado x2 a BT50 a Ranger and in two cases engine failures. The most durable engine is made from all cast iron. One example is the Toyota 1HD FTE. Hands down this is one of Toyota best. This is why the 100/105 series diesel Land Cruiser is still commanding such a high price. Don't worry about it not being new, these are made to last. Stay clear of the newer later model. Have you considered a Mitsubishi Canter? Cheers PS: That said, the long duration of modern service intervals is a big contributor to these failures. No matter what the dealer or the book says, diesel engine oil should be changed every 5,000klm, most importantly turbo diesels. Cheers
Wow, that was some really good information. Thank you for taking the time. Actually makes me feel a little better, because we were at a loss for a solution. I'm actually worried in travelling back from Queensland to SA, it's going to be a nervous drive. Andrea
absolutely correct, long time frames between oil changes are just stupid, its hell in those engines, its a wonder that they don't break down all the time, I change the oil 5000 because these engines now are built to a low price, old lancruiser engines, old ford v8's go on seemingly forever. Ive got a little Prius with a steel block and that's gone cairns to Darwin , then Darwin to Sydney then to perth where we live now as well as being a daily driver, bloody little thing seemingly going forever with 5000 km oil changes. you're absolutely right
an old mechanic taught me if you need to tune and remap an ecu ,and add on,s such as throttle controllers then you have brought the wrong car for the job ! nothing destroys any chance of manufacturers assistance than those kind of mods , aftermarket supplier will blame genuine and genuine will blame aftermarket ! don't forget to get it back to a dealer to restore the ecu to factory specs before it does it again
Life’s a gamble but in this instance it wasn’t an accident, you’re both OK as is the van and in you never stop learning. Wish you both well and if the opportunity arises give it another go in the future. Vehicles are much more complicated nowadays and I’ve even resorted to carrying a scan tool if an error message pops up and the damn things go into limp mode. Never used to be like that. Cheers
Thanks for the comment. Totally agree - that's why we have a good attitude about the situation. Heard of a few people now that carry the scan tool. Anay
Really feel sorry for you two, remember you lost the fight not the war so don't give up get back out there as soon as you can and enjoy your life together. If I won the lotto I would pay your repair bill and give you some money to keep going. I would go myself except I am heading towards 80 and I have no one to go with. Ha ha 😅
i have worked in dealerships and first thing they do when a vehicle is in for warranty is scan it see if any chips or ecu has been interfered with to void the warranty. downloads will even record if vehicle was overloaded causing chassis to bend or break etc
Bugger, it is a great area up there. A friend travelled with a heavy van for 4 yrs no problem. Got a tune and ended up with a cracked piston next trip. 12k later all sorted. Wont be getting mine tuned.
that’s terrible news! I really enjoy your content and fantastic attitude, especially when given this devastating news! Best luck with second hand motor swap
There was a old case where a Dealership was fitting chips as a "add on extra"during the new car sales process,of course once the motors started blowing up,no warranty ,and the "Sales Consultant"who organised the chipping was hung to dry by the Dealership for running a unauthorised side hustle.If the chipping company is so crash hot lets see them warranty them without more excuses than a dogs got fleas
Sorry to hear your breakdown you have a great attitude and that’s what counts … we’ve lost cash on a car too left stranded ….. it can just happen and I don’t like oil change intervals now it seems along time between oil change recommendations to me. I think you’ve been unlucky those trucks seem reliable in general not like garbage Landrover products , it’s hard work towing in Australia . I had a good twenty years towing with a 1991 f150 truck towing horses and overloaded hay and tractors on trailers and big boats and really thrashed that machine around Australia and nothing ever went wrong in all that time . But had cars which spent their lives on a tow truck . Had a great go with older landcruisers too I thought they were greatly reliable but too expensive now for average joe . Hope you resolve it one way or the other I can see you’re terrific people .
That is the sweetest and informative message - Thank you. It's so hard to find the right vehicle these days, that's not a ridiculous price - agree. Yes, have heard a lot about oil change intervals. You need to be a mechanic to travel Australia these days. We have learnt a lot from this, but finding the right solution for our budget is proving difficult - but we'll get there and hope it's not too long before we are back on the road. Thank you again for your kind words. Anya
To thin a oil and too long a service intervals in new deisels. have had a triton and towed everyday a builders trailer fully loaded it had 200 plus kms,I ran thick oil and changed it every 5 thousand km and changed fuel filters every 3/4 thousand it didn't miss a beat.but I never modified it either so mine was standard and manual.
I blame the big UA-cam "influences" for convincing people they need all the crap on their 4WD's. Usually sponsored by aftermarket companies. I don't blame smaller channels like you guys because your just out there having a go and not trying go sell us stuff. Hopefully you get your Triton back on the road and continue your trip.
Thank you. We always said we wouldn't push items for money. We are just out there trying to have fun and show places to stay. Knowing what we know now, we wouldn't have done the things we did. Thought we were doing the right thing! Hard lesson learnt. Andrea
Never good when you have dramas on hols. Mitsubishi has a pretty tough engine but depends on a lot of factors ie: tune upgrade, weights, driving style and fuel quality. Hope all works out for you. I run a standard 2022 Paj Sport Exceed and tow a 1.6 tonne Jayco fortunately no issues and tows like a dream. Don't forget tougher 4x4's than yours have gone bang, keep smiling.
Do you lock it in a certain gear when towing as it was always the case that locking out overdrive was the done thing in the past? I have a 2017 Sport but I don't tow with it so it has a pretty easy life other than a bit of light 4wd'ing.
I feel terribly for you guys. There are many pushing do this, do that, you need this, you need that. My last 3 new 4x4 during purchase i speak to the service dept manager in view of mods. Toyota = tune or catch can definitely affect warranty. Catch cans are a clever marketing strategy 😅 You are the 2nd couple in as many weeks to blow and engine and get warranty rejected because of mods. To be honest, no one can blame the manufacturer for voiding a warranty if the motor has been tampered with outside of the engineering specs. The problem is, and I assume this is because it often goes in the manufacturers favour but they should sit you down as part of the hand over and tell you not to mod. My new dual cab, the dealer said and even suggested i put on bigger tyres. With the DMax bump steer issue, that minor change voids the warranty on bump ateer correction. I applaud your attitude, I really hope this gets sorted - legally, the manufacturer does have to prove the failure was due to the tune. But sadly, our pathetic legal and government bodies that should enforce this are weaker than wet rise paper. I hope that this doesn't ruin your dream.
This is a really good comment - thank you. If the motor industry were honest and fair - they should tell you that any mods will void your warranty - but they probably hope you have no idea - saves them the cost. We hope we'll get ourselves sorted in the New Year. Cheers to new beginnings xx Anya
Mate, we do, we've never asked for a cent from anyone and don't sell stuff. We just let everyone know the good and about travelling. All truth, no acting or lies. We stuffed up. That's our bad. No one could send us money even if they wanted too as we have no links. 👍😎👍
@grunkalunka3449 how are we ebegging? We haven't asked for anything, and even if you wanted to send us money, you can't as there are no links! We don't even sell merchandise! Have a lovely day!
Brother I went through the same problem …cracked a piston and was stranded in Hervey Bay for 2 months while getting a fully record engine sorted ….additional $ 15000 and 3 k in accomodation wasn’t what I planned for a holiday …
I noticed the 2 large driving lights in front of the grill. This would reduce the air into the radiator. I watched a video of a Nissan that had done the same thing and the warranty was voided , the engine ghar 2 cooked cylinders.
Yes, i think this was a contributing factor and we also have a winch that's probably restricting airflow too. We are going to remove them. We've learnt a lot, but unfortunately it's cost us a lot for the lesson. 👍😎👍
I hope you manage to get over this setback and continue your travels because you’ve got a fantastic attitude to life. As a fellow Triton owner did the mechanic tell you exactly what happened to the engine as surely the ECU upgrade wouldn’t be the cause. Interested to hear meantime best of luck for the future.
I have looked at 21 engine failures in the past 12 months, 20 had been chipped or ECU remapped. 18 were towing at the time, all were pistons or heads. None of the fuel filters were what I would consider excessively dirty. Number 21 went 258,000 without a timing belt change and the belt only failed because the idler pulley seized. Keep it standard, change oil(make it one of the thicker ones) every 5000km and check the pickup screen, fuel filters every 10,000km, timing belts at recommended intervals. Use genuine parts where possible, supply your own just to be sure, don't listen to ol'mate at BBQ's or caravan parks who says mapping is the best thing they ever did. My D4D has done over 500,000km and hard ones..........dead standard ECU. Programming ECU's is easier than ever with the cheap software now available, every man and his dog is doing it and that is why the blowups are increasing INMHO. I have been programming PLC's and controllers for 20 years but make your own mind up.
Really sorry to hear of your problems. It's a brutal lesson to learn. I know there's so much misinformation around these days regarding how your warranty is affected by modifications. The fact is, you do anything to your vehicle's mechanicals or chassis, including suspension mods, lifts and of course catch cans or "tunes" you provide the manufacturer with a rolled gold excuse to deny a warranty claim. Of course, the modification may have nothing to do with the issue, but it's for you to prove otherwise unfortunately. There's no reverse onus warranty laws in Australia. Australian Consumer Law does protect consumers beyond warranty but it's no help in this situation.
I feel for you, the reason the motors are blowing is the re mapping. These shops re mapping are selling a product, knowing that it voids any warranty also the GVM upgrade would void it also, I bet they didn't tell you that. Love your attitude, Live Life, You Only Have one
I have done a couple of big road trips recently. One up to the Pilbara from Perth and the other over the Nullarbor. On both trips I was very struck by how many people had very heavily loaded (possibly overloaded?) vehicles towing big caravans. I do wonder if people are asking a bit much from these modern vehicles with their small displacement diesel engines. I think many people out there touring would benefit from an audit of what they are taking with them and a subsequent cull of stuff to get the weight back to a more sensible level. It really isn't necessary and is just materialism run out of control. The media these days would have you believe you need to buy and take all sorts of stuff with you. I suspect most people never or rarely use a lot of the stuff they load up with.
Yes, as someone who's new to caravanning and 4 wheel driving, I blame sales teams and dealerships for their misguided towing capacities. We are underweight, but that's still too heavy for these small motors. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. A very expensive lesson learnt! 👍😎👍
Thank you for your comment. We have minimal items in the caravan and what we have we use. Our weights are fine, however even though we thought the vehicle was capable of towing we have learnt a lot since. You do see a lot of travellers that appear to have everything under the sun and continually buy stuff along the way. It must be difficult for those travelling with a family of 4 or more. Anya
@@madaussieadventures I sounds as though you were unlucky. Mechanical problems are always a risk on big trips. I hope you are able to get back up and running with the new engine. As regards weight and excess stuff I suspect there will be a swing away from kitchen sink touring back to the more basic and economical touring style of yesteryear. I think people will begin to appreciate the benefits of that and anyway cost of living pressures will make anything else too expensive for most younger tourers.
Thank you, that's so nice. Hopefully we'll get ourselves sorted in the next few months. We have to get out there and enjoy nature any way we can - might have to put a backpack on and explore via the e-bikes LOL
@ I was just wondering if you had a bit of water in the fuel tank that you picked up from the Caltex petrol station ⛽️. That made the motor hydraulic lock up ,it only takes a bit of water to do that. 💧 .Most Diesel engines can handle it but some don’t. ..
Hi Gibbo, I am guttered for you. Trip of a life time cut short. Hey mate, did you have it chipped or remapped or both. Wishing you all the best, thanks for the raw and honest update. Hope you are back on the road soon. Lifes short, make the most of it and dont sweat the money, you can always make more but you cant get more time. Enjoy it while you have it.
Thanks heaps, bro, for the kind words! It was remapped. Big lesson learnt and now we will sell the triton and hopefully pick up a y62 patrol for the right price. We were looking into selling up everything, but as you said, life is more important than money, and this is our dream. 👍😎👍
I like that you notice the speed limits. I personally have found that the speed on the signs is intended to give you a decent ride. Sorry about your vehicle, it is hard when you are stuck like that. I will say i considered a remap, thanks for the warning. Messing with the computer seems to put the motor at risk. And that warranty is important. It may be that the remap was the cause of the failure, but i am personally glad you are both ok.
Thanks so much, that really means a lot. We got a bashing about 'you should have know better' but we had no idea and other have been caught as well. I'm glad you watched our video, so you know not to go down that path. Anya
@@madaussieadventures Should have known better is not a reason to criticise you about remapping. The internet has a lot on it about remapping because enthusiasts want more torque. The latest systems should give a warning or the guys that remapped your vehicle should have given you more warning. So much miss information out there by so called experts. You have saved a lot of people from that same pain. I thank you personally for telling every one of the true risks.
I nearly went down the route of a Recurve ECU upgrade but then considered what the ultimate cost would be. More power equals more heat in the engine. Sorry to hear of your issues. I hope it works out in the end.
Hey Gibbo, sorry to hear the engine has turned into such an ordeal for you we have been parked next to your van since it got hear just thought you'd like to know it's still safe and sound here.
Thank you, that's great to hear as we are over 2200km away. Hopefully the motor will be put in soon and we can travel home. See you when we get back if you're still there. 👍😎👍
I know the heart mate. Maiden voyage in our 16ft with our mq triton. Well within weights and I blew the clutch....cost us thousands $$$. All part of travel and at least we are safe.
Had the same thing happen to my Colorado after 150000 happy klms I got it remapped, was assured that it was a tow pack and well within specs. Didn't last 1000 klms. Mob who did the remap didn't want to know. Mechanic who did the inspection told me it was a common complaint. Get your engine remapped at your peril, remember if anything goes wrong you are on your own. Cost me over $20000.
You'd think the remapper would say voids warranty in print. If no mention you might be able to get them to help with costs. No worries with companies doing remaps. Not telling you voids warranty is a fine line between legal/illegal. I'd get legal advice. Interested to know what failed?
No hating here mate just a question, you had me on side with your weights and everything until you said you had a gvm upgrade, your car and motor and gearbox are recommended to tow a certain weight , an upgrade allows you to go above that, not sure thats a good idea, hope everything works out for you two, with your outlook on life i think it will, cheers
Unfortunately the ecu upgrade would have caused it Them motors are strong as and have never seen one just blow up If the ecu upgrading was so good the manufacturers would be doing them
@@madgibbo44 the dealership has said the ecu upgrade caused it so go back to whoever did it and Demand they replace the motor threaten legal action against them
Nothing like Bad News to bring in the views. I must admit you're the 4th video I have watched with Bad News when it comes to Enjoying Life on the road in a Caravan. It's just an unfortunate reality that your average SUV isn't really up to the job when it comes to Towing. But saying that, you're not really pulling that much weight ?? I guess it's just the extra strain on the engine that seems to make these videos so popular on UA-cam 😅 ( I couldn't help mention that 😉) Hopefully you get things sorted and back on the road where you want to be 👍
We didn't expect that amount of views LOL We just tell it how it is - people love drama. 'Buy a caravan and travel' they said 'it will be fun' they said! 😄😅😊😳
It's actually a very well known thing and even if they tell you that it is covered take it with a grain of salt from what I've seen. Even some pretty well known channels on here will imply that there won't be issues but that's not what I've seen. Even things like lifts and accessories can cause issues if you have a problem let alone pumping more horsepower out of the engine.
Lol as if anyone who's done even the slightest research on ECU tunes wouldn't realise that you can kiss your vehicle's drivetrain warranty goodbye in the case of engine or transmission failure!
Tweaking for peaking...or keep your loading light..I ve gone the light loading route..so far impressed with what I didnt "need". Fuel ,tyres , brakes are not so concerning now
Ugh that would hurt. Just interested as to what motor that was? The 2.5 or the newer 2.4? Brother in law had a much earlier 2.5 that had known issues and was well out of warranty but the dealer replaced it as it had been dealer serviced the whole time. I looked around for second hand for him but people still wanted stupid money for a very high mileage unit. Just wondering how much a new engine was as I have the 2.4 in a Sport and I just know that it would be an expensive little sod to replace.
Sure, did oldmate! It was the 2.4 and cost over $13 000 for a second-hand motor with the same mileage. The other option was $22 000 for a new motor. Unfortunately we have no choice as we have to bring the van home.
Unfortunately, most chips and remapping achieve additional power by increasing the pressure within the fuel system to increase the amount of fuel going into the motor at greater speed, but within the same milliseconds of injection This also generates additional heat. I use a Steinbauer which lengthens the period of injection and DOESN'T increase fuel pressure within the system. Had it for years on a 2011 Pajero 3.2, improved performance and m.p.g at the same time. Hope everything works out for you guys.
I don't mind the Mitsubishi's I've had good runs with the one's Ive own in the past Your ECU upgrade might be doggie if you want more power buy a 4x4 with a bigger motor not a ford or Mazda with that ticking time bomb 5 cylinder diesel that you mostly see on tow trucks
Bad deal for sure but in interests of education for others could you possibly follow up with a video of what went wrong exactly with that engine by someone who’s qualified to do a report on it Once armed with that information go ahead and see what response there is from the tune company and Mitsubishi (consumer law will override there warranty denial regardless they must prove the tune caused the engine failure ) These things generally don’t happen by accident that’s why it’s a good thing to analyse Perhaps fitting an EGT gauge in future could be helpful also I assume your fuel was checked after that last fill up ? Information is power ! Good luck JA
Thanks for the comment. Seems that even if the remapping wasn't the cause - it voids your warranty 'full-stop'. Yes, we will put out another video explaining the situation - we are still confused where to go from here. Seems no car is fit to pull a caravan unless it's a truck. Gibbo has been doing a lot of research into the new vehicles and seems they all have issues - crazy. Apparently, the fuel was fine. Anya
@ Don’t be let them bluff you I would suggest contacting John Cadogan he has dealt with many warranty disputes Auto expert I know Mitsubishi are denying warranty with bluff that’s what they do that’s what manufacturers almost always do even when the fault is totally there’s or when the consumer law over rides it (that’s why there have been some big class actions happening in recent years such as the Hilux one) assuming your car has the 4N15 engine according to forums I’ve looked at it appears to have a DPF regeneration issue at times causing extreme high exhaust gas temps this can be looked for in the ECU logs It may be necessary to have a solicitor draft a letter to both Mitsubishi (Mitsubishi Australia not the dealer to the right person) and the re map provider to remind them both of there obligations this will often cause them to rethink there current response You might find a solicitor or possibly a barrister to work on contingency arrangement
Well that`s bad luck . A word of advice almost any modification to a vehicle gives the manufacturer an avenue to try and weasel out . Have u tried the ECU upgrade company whats there impression ??? Car makers even refuse warranty with conventional spot lights as it restricts airflow . Includes shade cloth across grills and decorative grill replacements. The increase in price for transport for a 4x4 is alot higher than passenger car . Then add a premium when non driver smells of a ripoff Good travels
"weasel out" yeah okay you've remapped the engine and now it's not the same engine that left the factory and it's hasn't been tested or rated to the new specs and there's all worst of implications in terms of operating temperatures and exhaust temps and turbo temps and ignition timing and yet you want the manufacturer to say nahh it's all good mate, we'll cover it even though you've fiddled around with it? Come on, fair's fair, how do you expect that?!
Personally I would not modify a car in warranty at all , but thats my own view . But I do have sympathy for those that get denied warranty all the same . Biggest issue is most 4x4 seem to have some issues and do not like mods. injectors , clutches ,pistons gear box/transmission , diff gears , burnt up LSD clutches . etc etc
@@madgibbo44 grab ya nuts splash out and buy a Toyota you won't regret it their amazing , ive learnt from learning from others and havnt looked back got one myself , after all your life is on the line remote out back you need a trustworthy vehicle to keep you and the family safe
this sucks ,i know nothing about car motors so i wont pretend to understand what and why you upgraded something BUT really PEVS me when things come with warrantys and 80% of the time theres a way to not get any help from the company you brought it from . all the. best hoppfully yous are back on the road enjoying your travels and making more content soon
I'd put money on the reason for the engine blowing is oil failure. Modern engines are running super thin oil to improve emissions and economy. They aren't factoring in heavy towing loads and the hot Australian weather. New 300 series cruisers are lunching engines under 20,000kms for this reason. If you tow, change your oil every 5000kms even if you do it yourself on the trip. Always use a minimum of 5w30w or 5w40w even on modern engines.
@@russianbotstein1422 I agree mate the oils are going too long until they’re changed these new oil change intervals don’t make any sense at all, proof is in the pudding with my cars they last a long time with 5000 oil changes.
Whats the ECU upgrade do? More fuel/air? If so it's high risk that you will be beyond what the manufacturer recommends for longevity. Add on towing = more fuel plus heat.
No tuning shop is go to warrenty a motor aside from factory backed vendors like Tickford and Walkinshaw (back in the day) and Harrod, yeah yeah im sure they say they will but when it comes to the end of the day they will turn around and blame somthing else but the tune and say it wasn't the resault of the tune. Play you pay been that way since the advent of working up engines.
@ I also own a Holden Colorado with that Isuzu 4JJ1 mtr my daughter has it and the last service cost 8 grand to keep it alive . That’s one of the few new sml mtrs that will take big power 300 hp all day mainly because Isuzu still makes a proper little truck mtr.
Fine print: 'stock standard, service as per manual'??? What off road/ camping/ overlanding/ caravan enthusiasts is going to leave their 4x4 stock standard for ten years!?😅😅😅
I honestly think they’re pulling the piss with the GVM upgrade. It hasn’t had one, otherwise it would have the legally required CAT6 indicators for a GVM above 3.5T - prime example of “influencers“ doing the wrong thing and using bullshit baffles brains approach. Same when they come unhitched. New people look to you for advice, so do the right thing FFS.
Our channel is all about showing our adventures. We told everyone from the start that we are new and had know idea what we were doing. It must be perfect to to be you! Pedders did the gvm upgrade and we have no reason to lie! Unfortunately, we know that now. This was always our dream, and unfortunately, we went into blindly and listened to dealers, not real people. Very expensive lesson learnt. I will not name drop, sorry. But they're very reputable.
@@madgibbo44 yeh nice. Well pedders must of stuffed up on your paperwork then. Because a simple check of your rego says otherwise. Going off the “FACTS” you guys would have to be overweight by a fair bit. You weigh your set up unloaded, no canopy or roof top in an earlier episode. Mass amount of strain for a small engine. Good luck with a new tow rig guys.
Excess weight may kill a transmission or suspension component but as long as you service them religiously and do oil/filters at 5000km ,generally as long as you drive them gently for the first ten minutes and let them idle to cool turbo before shutting off turbo diesels like to be driven like you hate them, within the limits imposed in the ECU programming. Mine (2012) has over 500,000 very hard km on the original motor and still uses less than a litre of oil between 5,000km services. This is my second diesel, the first one(normally aspirated) was sold at 450,000 after towing a LOT of excessively heavy trailers and the new owner has just ticked over 750,000km on it.
Further to my comments a couple of days ago have you tried your Insurance Company because another UA-camr “Paul Wheel Drive” blew the engine of a Toyota Prado allegedly due to contaminated fuel purchased in Kunnanurra and the insurance company wrote it off because he was quoted around $36k for a new engine so he ended up buying a secondhand Ford Ranger. Not suggesting your Triton would be written off as his car was munch older than yours but surely worth a phone call if you haven’t already. Anyway best of luck for a good result.
You made up and down the bruce hwy that's a "tick" . With that ECU mapping.. did you get the car serviced by Mitsubishi after you had it done. If you did, they have a duty of care to tell you about the warranty. Anyway, you're safe that's important. everything happens for a reason, I think. Hope you get back on the road soon.
when you buy the car new its on the paperwork plus detailed twice in the owners manual and in the service schedule that any modifications will void warranty
@@madgibbo44I know what I would be doing then just out of principal ... what actually occurred with the engine was it a catastrophic part failure or something other ... bad publicity you think would be worth more than the 15 odd Grand to replace the Donk ... depending of course what occurred interesting business model to say the least. ....... 🫸 Mitsubishi
So what actually happened to the engine? Always worth checking that remaps are covered under warranty, in any country. In my experience altering the map of the car is normally ok, but it depends on what the actual figures they put in. but a map can only do so much towards killing an engine, if the reason is not map related, it may be covered depending on local law, it is likely to be here, but that's the other side of the planet to you guys. It really is worth having the original ECM and map until the warranty is up, whether you have another ECM is another question, I know some of the guys here do, I intend to have 3 ECM's for travels, you never know what might go wrong.
Sorry to hear what happened, did they give a reason for the motor blowing up? Was it fuelling up due to the tune? Not being a smart arse just curious as I hear this with a number of tunes on various models. All the best and hope it works out. Mark.
I like that model Mitsubishi but after hearing that problem with Mitsubishi seem to have a problem with their timing belts and timing chains so what actually went wrong with your Tritons Motor I wouldn't think the ECU would be the the cause of a motor blowing up. I was watch another UA-camr with a 300 series LandCruiser over warranty it broke down and Toyota wouldn't cover it because they have modified the 300 series landcruiser wagon into a four-seater crew cab ute
Yep…I wouldn’t get a tune for mine ( V6 Everest) because of warranty… and I don’t believe in these long oil changes they now recommend…. 10000k’s or less… especially if your towing
Just wondering If you change your Tires to a real A/T Tires would that constute a modification to Void Warranty, I seem They Look for any excuse nowadays to void!
I thought the ecu update companies warrant their work when the mods might have caused the issue? we all know the manufacturer will not ever cover that (not warranty of the manufacture fault)
It’s because people are sucked into these gimmick tunes and gadgets, the engine is designed to operate as it is in standard form, the moment you add or do anything to the engine or driveline your asking for trouble. I feel for you guys it’s bloody terrible this has happened to you. All the best 👍
It may be legal, but towing another vehicle that weights the same or more than the car, doubles the strain on the engine. All the forces of pulling go to the thrust bearing in the engine. That reduces the life of major components by 50%. The wear on the transmission is double what would normally happen. These utes are not trucks, do not have truck level strength. They are not Landcruisers or Patrols which are more robust.
@@madaussieadventures well there are so many company's doing tunes. Call or go see them. You were going by what they recommended for your vehicle and towing. Did they have a disclaimer? Manufacturers spend millions on R and D drive trains fuel economy etc. Bet the tuner does not do that. Lots just increase fuel and air to give more power. The components are not designed for this. Tunes and chips need to be called out for this. Company's claims about so called safe tunes should back up those claims with warranties.
Having dealt with Mitsubishi engine warranties. You have the right to challenge their verdict. Have the engine assessed by an independent engine repairer. The reason why it blew up might have nothing to do with the engine ecu.
That's exactly what we were going to do but unfortunately distance and time was a huge factor as the car and caravan are over 2000km way and we are paying rent for the caravan in a caravan park. If we still lost, it was added expensive we couldn't afford. 👍😎👍
They tried to void warranty on a work vehicle because we used Ryco oil filters. Fact was the oil pump failed. This is not an uncommon failure for Mitsubishi
Of course Mitsubishi were never going to honour the warranty. That's the inherent risk with tuning an engine. Did you guys factor the decision the tune it knowing this?
BIG lessoned learned, why didnt you know not to touch the ECU under warranty. Another lesson to learn a second hand could cost you more than a rebuild in the short and long run. My Goodness. Triton is also not the car to tamper with,.
I know where you're coming from and agree, but.... I love all comments, even the haters as they give me a good laugh. Some people don't have an actual comment they just want to talk crap with no facts then call you a dickhead, not that I'm denying being a dickhead. 😂😂 99% of the comments are great. 👍😎👍
These twin cab utes are not made to tow such excess weight! I have earlier model Triton & we have a 3 angle horse float that is 1 ton dry,add 3 Welsh mountain ponies & probably up to 2.2 to 2.5 ton & this is the maximum I would tow. Have bought wife's a Y62 Patrol to tow horse float & it does it with ease,even fully loaded. All these manufacturers selling twin cab utes to tow 3.5 ton is BS,add to that diesel tuners who don't know what they are doing.Plus trying to get more power out of small 4 cylinder engines is a joke,more fuel/air = more heat which kills engines & transmissions. I had a warranty job for my Mitsubishi MN Triton,overheating engine as had bad machining on block.KINGS Mitsubishi in Ballarat were exceptional & replaced engine with a new long engine. Kings In Ballarat were exceptional & I didn't buy the car from them.The service manager was a woman & rang Mitsubishi HQ in Adelaide & got the go ahead for new engine,only thing I paid for was a heavy duty clutch as the car had done 70,000Km plus so while engine was out I got Kings in Ballarat to do clutch,$900.00 was the bill. Wish you all the best.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 But consider buying a V8,not working as hard when towing,mountain of power & torque & excellent on fuel!
Not sure what your engine blow up entails, however I understand many newer 4WD s are running 0w20 engine oil which gives less internal engine friction and better mpg, and less polluting to environment. The downside is that 0w20 breaks down when extremely hot towing heavy loads and say bye bye to crankshaft bearings. 5w30 or 10w40 is recommended for sustained heavy load conditions . Just a thought you might want to consider in searching for an answer to your engine failure.
Just like the new 300 series cruising are converting their bottom ends to toast ..thanks to 0-20w weight oil ...and Toyota have to pay ...unless you have left a thumbprint on the air box ...toasting a 300 engine will be an expensive mistake ...totally wrong oil for the engine...
So sad to here guys, the reason they blow up is because these tiny little common rail diesels are generally working there ass off , once they’ve had a tune that is not ideal they can see to much fuel which makes them run hot and burn up, any diesel towing a huge weight ,and that van is massive weight for that car should have a boost and EGT GAUGE ,it could have been as simple as seeing your exhaust temp rising and simply going down one gear ,if you choose to keep towing with that car fit the gauges and drive to the gauge all the best
Nephew has a bitsamissing Triton dual cab diesel Ute - 6 years old with 67,000 kms - so just out of warranty & the block cracked ffs. No ECU program tunes etc. Probably should get a new engine out of Mitsubishi under Australian Consumer Law Guarantee. Weren’t even towing at the time. Probably gonna be a sh!t show involving lawyers (family so zero cost to sue Mitzi under the ACLG Act). See where it goes. So you’re not alone.
Yeah these modern engines are being pushed to the limits of physics because of environmental regulations, smaller displacements, higher rail pressures and advanced timing, gotta say you guys have a tremendous attitude you’d a lovely couple, good luck with everything
Thanks heaps, really appreciate your kind words!
That's so nice - thank you. Not sure where we'll go from here. Anya
You guys have had a gut wrenching experience . The person who put that chip in the car is responsible for not informing you of the risk putting the pump under stress , the designing engineers had not allowed for this. Good luck with it all , and I hope you get back soon. I went the rooftop tent on a 8 x 4 basic trailer.... kitchen water , electrical , solar , longrange fuel tank all onboard Navara , a swag and awning for me and rooftop for Mrs Or grandkids or friends.... super light , no need for chip...(these cars are not meant to tow alot , they havent got the grunt). Drop the big fancy cara is my humble advice.
Yeah, mate, it's been hard.
A very expensive lesson learnt.
We love both the rooftop and the caravan, but I tend to agree with you.
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Thanks for your kind words. Yes, that poor little Ute. We love our rooftop tent. We have a lot of decisions to make. We'll be on the road soon to pick up the caravan.... yes, with the same triton - don't have a choice, but we'll nurse it home then work out what to do then. Thanks for watching, it really helps our little channel. Happy travels! Anya
So sorry to see what's happened. These types of vids are popping up on my feed. I watched one recently about a couple who blew their Prado engine. It was caused by a hole in their radiator, which had a chain reaction and catastrophic end. Insurance covered them because the hole could've been caused by a passing truck or car flicking up a stone. They were lucky to have their repairs under insurance.
Really scares me as we are heading west for 3-4 months next year and seeing a few of these awful outcomes where good folk are stranded and thousands of dollars in repairs. 😢
Thank you!
Unfortunately, this is furtherest we've travelled up to date and the first time anything major has happened and it's cost us around $25,000.
All I can say is don't modify your vehicle so you don't lose your warranty, have RAA highest cover, make sure you have a reliable insurance company that will cover all your needs, and then it's in the hands of the gods!
If we can afford to keep going, we will because we love it so much.
Don't let my bad luck scare you from your adventures!
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Keep well away from chips & remaps.
The most reliable vehicles are stock vehicles.
Yep, lesson learnt
Why didn't you tell me that before! 🤣😂
Not really. A good ecu remap will still keep the motor within its makers specs . All motors are sent from the factory in a detuned state to cover warranties and emissions as well as the highly variable temperature extrems in different countries. A mild retune can transform your vehicle. There many tens of thousands with remaps that run perfectly. I,d like to a decent mechanics report on what the motor to let go as I doubt the remap is responsible unless it was a high output remap.
@@iandickinson342 None of what you posted makes a difference if you have problems and you want the manufacturer to pay for them.
I also really don't understand why so many feel the need to rush out and try and get more power out of their vehicles the whole time.
People used to tow or go off road decades ago with a whole lot less power/torque than now and still managed to go around Australia or do the remote tracks.
Maybe feeling like they need to drag their whole life with them is part of the problem?
Do you do remaps by any chance?
@oldbloke204 well said, keep them stock they are more reliable. Buy the vehicle to suit, keep it legal and at the very least less dramas
Gutted for you guys. Can feel your heartbreak talking about it. Hope youre back on the road again sooner rather than later
Thank you, really appreciate it!
Thank you so much xx We'll get back out there - even if we're camping but naked under a tree. LOL
I bought the Pajero with the 3.2lt, its a great engine. Its an old school truck engine if you change your mind after the ute.
Yes, we are definitely going to have to rethink our options.
I have the old ML Triton with the same motor and the new MR Triton as well , the ML pulls better that the MR
@@peter112999 I had an ML 3.2 as well, 260,000+klm still running very well when I sold it. I did give it a good flush out when I bought it at 205,000klm and ran like a clock. The 3.2 engine itself sold me as it was slightly improved for power by Mitsubishi for the Pajero but still not over tuned like their newer diesels. I said to my son the other day, its perfect...Its over engineered and under tuned.
@jamiefrangos9233 My son has the 3.2 triton, and it's a beast!
Don't know about old school truck engines but my parents had a Pajero with the 4m40t and it did 5 engines in the space of getting to 450,000 3 rear diff housing that cracked 4 gear boxs after that none of our family has entertained the idea of owning a Mitsubishi since well to be fair it was compared against a landcriuser which is present at 9900000 on the same engine.
Hi sorry to hear about all your problems and a good help for people thinking about vehicle mods.
Thank you.
Yes, I hope people can learn off our mistakes.
Thank you - a lot of people didn't know.
Hi guys, you are correct in your assessment of modern automobile engine disasters. No manufacturer is immune. Nowadays, the accountants are running engineering. Boeing Aircraft Corporation is a great example of cost cutting. The truth be known, engines have become smaller, weigh less, and produce more power. This is not a formula is durability. A touring couple I know, in the last few years have had, Prado x2 a BT50 a Ranger and in two cases engine failures. The most durable engine is made from all cast iron. One example is the Toyota 1HD FTE. Hands down this is one of Toyota best. This is why the 100/105 series diesel Land Cruiser is still commanding such a high price. Don't worry about it not being new, these are made to last. Stay clear of the newer later model. Have you considered a Mitsubishi Canter? Cheers
PS: That said, the long duration of modern service intervals is a big contributor to these failures. No matter what the dealer or the book says, diesel engine oil should be changed every 5,000klm, most importantly turbo diesels. Cheers
Wow, that was some really good information. Thank you for taking the time. Actually makes me feel a little better, because we were at a loss for a solution. I'm actually worried in travelling back from Queensland to SA, it's going to be a nervous drive. Andrea
Thank you!
Awesome advice and yes I think we'll definitely get rid of triton and look into the right second-hand vehicle.
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absolutely correct, long time frames between oil changes are just stupid, its hell in those engines, its a wonder that they don't break down all the time, I change the oil 5000 because these engines now are built to a low price, old lancruiser engines, old ford v8's go on seemingly forever. Ive got a little Prius with a steel block and that's gone cairns to Darwin , then Darwin to Sydney then to perth where we live now as well as being a daily driver, bloody little thing seemingly going forever with 5000 km oil changes. you're absolutely right
an old mechanic taught me if you need to tune and remap an ecu ,and add on,s such as throttle controllers then you have brought the wrong car for the job ! nothing destroys any chance of manufacturers assistance than those kind of mods , aftermarket supplier will blame genuine and genuine will blame aftermarket ! don't forget to get it back to a dealer to restore the ecu to factory specs before it does it again
We are putting in a second-hand motor with the same kms and new ecu.
Very expensive lesson learnt. 👍😎👍
Life’s a gamble but in this instance it wasn’t an accident, you’re both OK as is the van and in you never stop learning. Wish you both well and if the opportunity arises give it another go in the future. Vehicles are much more complicated nowadays and I’ve even resorted to carrying a scan tool if an error message pops up and the damn things go into limp mode. Never used to be like that. Cheers
Yep, I 100% agree, mate!
Thanks for the comment. Totally agree - that's why we have a good attitude about the situation. Heard of a few people now that carry the scan tool. Anay
Really feel sorry for you two, remember you lost the fight not the war so don't give up get back out there as soon as you can and enjoy your life together. If I won the lotto I would pay your repair bill and give you some money to keep going. I would go myself except I am heading towards 80 and I have no one to go with. Ha ha 😅
i have worked in dealerships and first thing they do when a vehicle is in for warranty is scan it see if any chips or ecu has been interfered with to void the warranty. downloads will even record if vehicle was overloaded causing chassis to bend or break etc
Yes, lesson learnt. Interesting about the overloaded part. Thanks for commenting. Andrea
Cheers, very interesting.
Bugger, it is a great area up there.
A friend travelled with a heavy van for 4 yrs no problem. Got a tune and ended up with a cracked piston next trip. 12k later all sorted. Wont be getting mine tuned.
Yeah, it sure is beautiful.
Please don't!!
that’s terrible news! I really enjoy your content and fantastic attitude, especially when given this devastating news! Best luck with second hand motor swap
Thanks heaps! ❤
That's so nice.... thank you. I know, we are a little nervous travelling back thousands of of kilometres with a second-hand motor. Eeek
There was a old case where a Dealership was fitting chips as a "add on extra"during the new car sales process,of course once the motors started blowing up,no warranty ,and the "Sales Consultant"who organised the chipping was hung to dry by the Dealership for running a unauthorised side hustle.If the chipping company is so crash hot lets see them warranty them without more excuses than a dogs got fleas
Sorry to hear your breakdown you have a great attitude and that’s what counts … we’ve lost cash on a car too left stranded ….. it can just happen and I don’t like oil change intervals now it seems along time between oil change recommendations to me. I think you’ve been unlucky those trucks seem reliable in general not like garbage Landrover products , it’s hard work towing in Australia . I had a good twenty years towing with a 1991 f150 truck towing horses and overloaded hay and tractors on trailers and big boats and really thrashed that machine around Australia and nothing ever went wrong in all that time . But had cars which spent their lives on a tow truck . Had a great go with older landcruisers too I thought they were greatly reliable but too expensive now for average joe . Hope you resolve it one way or the other I can see you’re terrific people .
That is the sweetest and informative message - Thank you. It's so hard to find the right vehicle these days, that's not a ridiculous price - agree. Yes, have heard a lot about oil change intervals. You need to be a mechanic to travel Australia these days. We have learnt a lot from this, but finding the right solution for our budget is proving difficult - but we'll get there and hope it's not too long before we are back on the road. Thank you again for your kind words. Anya
Thanx heaps!
Yeah, they certainly don't make them like they used to.
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Just built a 355 holden and th400 for patrol ,now i can trust it......way better to drive as well.
I don't doubt that at all.
To thin a oil and too long a service intervals in new deisels. have had a triton and towed everyday a builders trailer fully loaded it had 200 plus kms,I ran thick oil and changed it every 5 thousand km and changed fuel filters every 3/4 thousand it didn't miss a beat.but I never modified it either so mine was standard and manual.
Thanx for your comment! 👍😎👍
I just hope the next engine doesn't blow up while travelling back :(
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Surely you have at least a 3 month warranty on that, as deemed by law, if you bought it from a legitimate business.
Feel for you guys. Hope to see you back in action soon.
Thank you. Yes, we are hoping to get back on the road. We are just working out our finances at the moment.
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Thanks - we hope so too. Anya
I blame the big UA-cam "influences" for convincing people they need all the crap on their 4WD's. Usually sponsored by aftermarket companies.
I don't blame smaller channels like you guys because your just out there having a go and not trying go sell us stuff.
Hopefully you get your Triton back on the road and continue your trip.
Cheers, mate!
Yes, we were influenced by the influencers. Thinking we needed things that we actually didn't.
Live and learn.
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Thank you. We always said we wouldn't push items for money. We are just out there trying to have fun and show places to stay. Knowing what we know now, we wouldn't have done the things we did. Thought we were doing the right thing! Hard lesson learnt. Andrea
Never good when you have dramas on hols. Mitsubishi has a pretty tough engine but depends on a lot of factors ie: tune upgrade, weights, driving style and fuel quality. Hope all works out for you. I run a standard 2022 Paj Sport Exceed and tow a 1.6 tonne Jayco fortunately no issues and tows like a dream. Don't forget tougher 4x4's than yours have gone bang, keep smiling.
Cheers, that's so true!
Love your comment. Yes, your right. Have to admit the mighty trighty did well - unknowingly, no fault but our own. :(
Do you lock it in a certain gear when towing as it was always the case that locking out overdrive was the done thing in the past?
I have a 2017 Sport but I don't tow with it so it has a pretty easy life other than a bit of light 4wd'ing.
I feel terribly for you guys. There are many pushing do this, do that, you need this, you need that.
My last 3 new 4x4 during purchase i speak to the service dept manager in view of mods. Toyota = tune or catch can definitely affect warranty. Catch cans are a clever marketing strategy 😅
You are the 2nd couple in as many weeks to blow and engine and get warranty rejected because of mods.
To be honest, no one can blame the manufacturer for voiding a warranty if the motor has been tampered with outside of the engineering specs. The problem is, and I assume this is because it often goes in the manufacturers favour but they should sit you down as part of the hand over and tell you not to mod.
My new dual cab, the dealer said and even suggested i put on bigger tyres. With the DMax bump steer issue, that minor change voids the warranty on bump ateer correction.
I applaud your attitude, I really hope this gets sorted - legally, the manufacturer does have to prove the failure was due to the tune. But sadly, our pathetic legal and government bodies that should enforce this are weaker than wet rise paper. I hope that this doesn't ruin your dream.
Thanks heaps, it comments like this that really help! 👍😎👍
This is a really good comment - thank you. If the motor industry were honest and fair - they should tell you that any mods will void your warranty - but they probably hope you have no idea - saves them the cost. We hope we'll get ourselves sorted in the New Year. Cheers to new beginnings xx Anya
great you take responsibility for your travels without e-begging every twist and turn like so many others do.
Mate, we do, we've never asked for a cent from anyone and don't sell stuff.
We just let everyone know the good and about travelling. All truth, no acting or lies.
We stuffed up. That's our bad.
No one could send us money even if they wanted too as we have no links.
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Cheers
E-begging 😅😅
@grunkalunka3449 how are we ebegging? We haven't asked for anything, and even if you wanted to send us money, you can't as there are no links!
We don't even sell merchandise!
Have a lovely day!
@@madgibbo44 Sorry. I dont think that at all. I just thought the term 'e-begging' was funny. I havent heard it before.
Brother I went through the same problem …cracked a piston and was stranded in Hervey Bay for 2 months while getting a fully record engine sorted ….additional $ 15000 and 3 k in accomodation wasn’t what I planned for a holiday …
Sooo sorry to hear bro! We feel your pain.
Oh no!
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Could think of worst places to get "stuck"!?😅😅😅⛺️⛺️⛺️
I noticed the 2 large driving lights in front of the grill. This would reduce the air into the radiator. I watched a video of a Nissan that had done the same thing and the warranty was voided , the engine ghar 2 cooked cylinders.
Yes, i think this was a contributing factor and we also have a winch that's probably restricting airflow too. We are going to remove them.
We've learnt a lot, but unfortunately it's cost us a lot for the lesson.
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Yep, we're on it!
I hope you manage to get over this setback and continue your travels because you’ve got a fantastic attitude to life. As a fellow Triton owner did the mechanic tell you exactly what happened to the engine as surely the ECU upgrade wouldn’t be the cause. Interested to hear meantime best of luck for the future.
Cheers! The minute they found it was ecu upgraded, they instantly wiped us.
Piston failure, but they'll use any excuse to get out of warranty.
I have looked at 21 engine failures in the past 12 months, 20 had been chipped or ECU remapped. 18 were towing at the time, all were pistons or heads. None of the fuel filters were what I would consider excessively dirty. Number 21 went 258,000 without a timing belt change and the belt only failed because the idler pulley seized. Keep it standard, change oil(make it one of the thicker ones) every 5000km and check the pickup screen, fuel filters every 10,000km, timing belts at recommended intervals. Use genuine parts where possible, supply your own just to be sure, don't listen to ol'mate at BBQ's or caravan parks who says mapping is the best thing they ever did. My D4D has done over 500,000km and hard ones..........dead standard ECU. Programming ECU's is easier than ever with the cheap software now available, every man and his dog is doing it and that is why the blowups are increasing INMHO. I have been programming PLC's and controllers for 20 years but make your own mind up.
Really sorry to hear of your problems. It's a brutal lesson to learn.
I know there's so much misinformation around these days regarding how your warranty is affected by modifications. The fact is, you do anything to your vehicle's mechanicals or chassis, including suspension mods, lifts and of course catch cans or "tunes" you provide the manufacturer with a rolled gold excuse to deny a warranty claim. Of course, the modification may have nothing to do with the issue, but it's for you to prove otherwise unfortunately. There's no reverse onus warranty laws in Australia. Australian Consumer Law does protect consumers beyond warranty but it's no help in this situation.
Thank you. Yes, we'll be going stock standard next time that's for sure. I can't believe people do so much to their new cars knowing this.
Thank you.
Yes, mate, a very expensive lesson learnt.
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Not many people would be able to afford another new car!
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You're VERY fortunate!
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Lovely ep and spots guys, I hope you get your 4wd sorted out and get back on the road soon.
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Thank you, that means a lot. xx
@@madaussieadventures No worries
I feel for you, the reason the motors are blowing is the re mapping. These shops re mapping are selling a product, knowing that it voids any warranty also the GVM upgrade would void it also, I bet they didn't tell you that.
Love your attitude,
Live Life, You Only Have one
What a dumb thing to say when no one has any idea what caused this motor from stopping
Thank you!
Thanks so much. Yes, if only we knew! Trying to keep our heads up - we love doing our off-grid camping in the caravan and RTT. Anya
that's why I sold my triton to small a motor always under stress when towing .nothing frightens a triton except towing
Absolutely!
It's so hard, though, as they all seem to have problems. 👍😎👍
I have done a couple of big road trips recently. One up to the Pilbara from Perth and the other over the Nullarbor. On both trips I was very struck by how many people had very heavily loaded (possibly overloaded?) vehicles towing big caravans. I do wonder if people are asking a bit much from these modern vehicles with their small displacement diesel engines. I think many people out there touring would benefit from an audit of what they are taking with them and a subsequent cull of stuff to get the weight back to a more sensible level. It really isn't necessary and is just materialism run out of control. The media these days would have you believe you need to buy and take all sorts of stuff with you. I suspect most people never or rarely use a lot of the stuff they load up with.
Yes, as someone who's new to caravanning and 4 wheel driving, I blame sales teams and dealerships for their misguided towing capacities.
We are underweight, but that's still too heavy for these small motors.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
A very expensive lesson learnt!
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Thank you for your comment. We have minimal items in the caravan and what we have we use. Our weights are fine, however even though we thought the vehicle was capable of towing we have learnt a lot since. You do see a lot of travellers that appear to have everything under the sun and continually buy stuff along the way. It must be difficult for those travelling with a family of 4 or more. Anya
@@madaussieadventures I sounds as though you were unlucky. Mechanical problems are always a risk on big trips. I hope you are able to get back up and running with the new engine.
As regards weight and excess stuff I suspect there will be a swing away from kitchen sink touring back to the more basic and economical touring style of yesteryear. I think people will begin to appreciate the benefits of that and anyway cost of living pressures will make anything else too expensive for most younger tourers.
So sad to here that the Motor is not under warranty.
You definitely need to keep going on your wonderful adventure 🦘🦘🦘🍷🍷
Cheers! Hopefully, we'll be able to.
Thank you, that's so nice. Hopefully we'll get ourselves sorted in the next few months. We have to get out there and enjoy nature any way we can - might have to put a backpack on and explore via the e-bikes LOL
@ I was just wondering if you had a bit of water in the fuel tank that you picked up from the Caltex petrol station ⛽️. That made the motor hydraulic lock up ,it only takes a bit of water to do that. 💧 .Most Diesel engines can handle it but some don’t. ..
@@paultabone2010 that's we were wondering too.
Hi Gibbo, I am guttered for you. Trip of a life time cut short. Hey mate, did you have it chipped or remapped or both. Wishing you all the best, thanks for the raw and honest update. Hope you are back on the road soon. Lifes short, make the most of it and dont sweat the money, you can always make more but you cant get more time. Enjoy it while you have it.
Thanks heaps, bro, for the kind words!
It was remapped.
Big lesson learnt and now we will sell the triton and hopefully pick up a y62 patrol for the right price.
We were looking into selling up everything, but as you said, life is more important than money, and this is our dream.
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That's so nice, appreciate your kind words. Doing our best to get back on the road.
Keep your heads up accidents happen u be back on the road before u know it... like u said your both arent injuried and thats the main thing
Exactly! Thank you!
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Absolutely - but I think it will be a while before touring again - other than the trip back to SA LOL
I like that you notice the speed limits. I personally have found that the speed on the signs is intended to give you a decent ride. Sorry about your vehicle, it is hard when you are stuck like that. I will say i considered a remap, thanks for the warning. Messing with the computer seems to put the motor at risk. And that warranty is important. It may be that the remap was the cause of the failure, but i am personally glad you are both ok.
Thanks heaps!
We are hoping this helps others to look into remapping better than what we did. I definitely would never remap again.
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Thanks so much, that really means a lot. We got a bashing about 'you should have know better' but we had no idea and other have been caught as well. I'm glad you watched our video, so you know not to go down that path. Anya
@@madaussieadventures Should have known better is not a reason to criticise you about remapping. The internet has a lot on it about remapping because enthusiasts want more torque. The latest systems should give a warning or the guys that remapped your vehicle should have given you more warning. So much miss information out there by so called experts. You have saved a lot of people from that same pain. I thank you personally for telling every one of the true risks.
I nearly went down the route of a Recurve ECU upgrade but then considered what the ultimate cost would be. More power equals more heat in the engine. Sorry to hear of your issues. I hope it works out in the end.
Thank you, yes a huge lesson learnt.
If only we knew :(
Hey Gibbo, sorry to hear the engine has turned into such an ordeal for you we have been parked next to your van since it got hear just thought you'd like to know it's still safe and sound here.
Thank you, that's great to hear as we are over 2200km away.
Hopefully the motor will be put in soon and we can travel home.
See you when we get back if you're still there.
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That's hilarious - I can't believe you guys are still there. Good to know our van is safe - thank you. Hoping we'll be back in a week. 🙂
I know the heart mate. Maiden voyage in our 16ft with our mq triton. Well within weights and I blew the clutch....cost us thousands $$$. All part of travel and at least we are safe.
Yes, always look on the bright side. xx
Sorry to hear, yeah it's not a great feeling. Cost us over $20,000 all up.
Hi guys did you talk to the guys that tuned your engine. They all have a guarantee on their work and they are liable when things go wrong
Yes, but unfortunately, no luck.
Sorry for that to happen to ya. Hope it all works out ok for ya.👍🍻🎯🇦🇺
Thanks, it means a lot. xx
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Had the same thing happen to my Colorado after 150000 happy klms I got it remapped, was assured that it was a tow pack and well within specs. Didn't last 1000 klms. Mob who did the remap didn't want to know. Mechanic who did the inspection told me it was a common complaint. Get your engine remapped at your peril, remember if anything goes wrong you are on your own. Cost me over $20000.
So sorry, mate!
Yes it's cost us around the same. Very expensive lesson we've all learnt.
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Great advice!
Oh dear! Sorry to hear that - it just sucks. Anya
You'd think the remapper would say voids warranty in print. If no mention you might be able to get them to help with costs. No worries with companies doing remaps. Not telling you voids warranty is a fine line between legal/illegal. I'd get legal advice. Interested to know what failed?
Yes, mate, you'd think.
Blew piston number 4.
Diesel tritons have a known balance shaft problem. Belt idler comes loose and destroys the engine.
Done a few
Yes, we're starting to hear many horror stories with the Triton. 👍😎👍
Go whitey
Crazy putting in a second hand motor .
I hope you're wrong, we couldn't afford a new one.
No hating here mate just a question, you had me on side with your weights and everything until you said you had a gvm upgrade, your car and motor and gearbox are recommended to tow a certain weight , an upgrade allows you to go above that, not sure thats a good idea, hope everything works out for you two, with your outlook on life i think it will, cheers
Cheers, mate!
Yeah, big lesson learnt.
We have learnt so much from this experience. Thank you for the comment. We want to keep travelling but we have a lot of hurdles to deal with. Anya
I’ll stick with my turtle disco1 diesel, it’s still on the original motor and auto transmission, owned from new.
They don't make cars like they used to - especially what they do to the engines to reduce emissions.
Unfortunately the ecu upgrade would have caused it
Them motors are strong as and have never seen one just blow up
If the ecu upgrading was so good the manufacturers would be doing them
I wish we had known this before, but not being mechanically minded and trusting people, we've made a lot of mistakes along the way.
@@madgibbo44 the dealership has said the ecu upgrade caused it so go back to whoever did it and Demand they replace the motor threaten legal action against them
Nothing like Bad News to bring in the views.
I must admit you're the 4th video I have watched with Bad News when it comes
to Enjoying Life on the road in a Caravan.
It's just an unfortunate reality that your average SUV isn't really up to the job when
it comes to Towing.
But saying that, you're not really pulling that much weight ??
I guess it's just the extra strain on the engine that seems to make these videos so popular on UA-cam 😅
( I couldn't help mention that 😉)
Hopefully you get things sorted and back on the road where you want to be 👍
We didn't expect that amount of views LOL We just tell it how it is - people love drama. 'Buy a caravan and travel' they said 'it will be fun' they said! 😄😅😊😳
Cheers mate!
I’m surprised the tuner didn’t tell the warranty would be voided
Exactly!!
It's actually a very well known thing and even if they tell you that it is covered take it with a grain of salt from what I've seen.
Even some pretty well known channels on here will imply that there won't be issues but that's not what I've seen.
Even things like lifts and accessories can cause issues if you have a problem let alone pumping more horsepower out of the engine.
Lol as if anyone who's done even the slightest research on ECU tunes wouldn't realise that you can kiss your vehicle's drivetrain warranty goodbye in the case of engine or transmission failure!
Tweaking for peaking...or keep your loading light..I ve gone the light loading route..so far impressed with what I didnt "need". Fuel ,tyres , brakes are not so concerning now
Yes, we totally will keep it light and NO mods! Thanks for your comment. Anya
Yep!
Ugh that would hurt.
Just interested as to what motor that was?
The 2.5 or the newer 2.4?
Brother in law had a much earlier 2.5 that had known issues and was well out of warranty but the dealer replaced it as it had been dealer serviced the whole time.
I looked around for second hand for him but people still wanted stupid money for a very high mileage unit.
Just wondering how much a new engine was as I have the 2.4 in a Sport and I just know that it would be an expensive little sod to replace.
Sure, did oldmate!
It was the 2.4 and cost over $13 000 for a second-hand motor with the same mileage. The other option was $22 000 for a new motor.
Unfortunately we have no choice as we have to bring the van home.
Unfortunately, most chips and remapping achieve additional power by increasing the pressure within the fuel system to increase the amount of fuel going into the motor at greater speed, but within the same milliseconds of injection This also generates additional heat. I use a Steinbauer which lengthens the period of injection and DOESN'T increase fuel pressure within the system. Had it for years on a 2011 Pajero 3.2, improved performance and m.p.g at the same time.
Hope everything works out for you guys.
Cheers, mate!
Unfortunately it's an expensive lesson learnt.
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Thanks for the info. Might be a while before we get back on the road with the caravan. Will camp in the Rooftop for a bit.
Yeh,it's the new vehicles not 2011
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will your new car be able to tow the caravan?
Sorry to here guys hope all works out
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Thanks so much, it means a lot and big thanks for watching. Anya
If the head is ok you might be able to get away with a short block but depends on who is doing the build and what available.
Second-hand motor being installed soon - already arranged. Given we have to fly home we had to get something sorted out quickly.
Yes, but unfortunately, it's over 2200km away as we've had to fly home and work.
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I don't mind the Mitsubishi's I've had good runs with the one's Ive own in the past Your ECU upgrade might be doggie if you want more power buy a 4x4 with a bigger motor not a ford or Mazda with that ticking time bomb 5 cylinder diesel that you mostly see on tow trucks
Glad you're both ok just remember life's a party even though sometimes you're the pinata
Thank you!
We both feel like a pinata at the moment 🎉🎉 lol
so true
Sorry to hear guys
Thanks, needing the love from everyone.
Thank you!
Bad deal for sure but in interests of education for others could you possibly follow up with a video of what went wrong exactly with that engine by someone who’s qualified to do a report on it
Once armed with that information go ahead and see what response there is from the tune company and Mitsubishi (consumer law will override there warranty denial regardless they must prove the tune caused the engine failure )
These things generally don’t happen by accident that’s why it’s a good thing to analyse
Perhaps fitting an EGT gauge in future could be helpful also
I assume your fuel was checked after that last fill up ?
Information is power !
Good luck
JA
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Thanks for the comment. Seems that even if the remapping wasn't the cause - it voids your warranty 'full-stop'. Yes, we will put out another video explaining the situation - we are still confused where to go from here. Seems no car is fit to pull a caravan unless it's a truck. Gibbo has been doing a lot of research into the new vehicles and seems they all have issues - crazy. Apparently, the fuel was fine. Anya
@ Don’t be let them bluff you I would suggest contacting John Cadogan he has dealt with many warranty disputes Auto expert I know Mitsubishi are denying warranty with bluff that’s what they do that’s what manufacturers almost always do even when the fault is totally there’s or when the consumer law over rides it
(that’s why there have been some big class actions happening in recent years such as the Hilux one)
assuming your car has the 4N15 engine according to forums I’ve looked at it appears to have a DPF regeneration issue at times causing extreme high exhaust gas temps this can be looked for in the ECU logs
It may be necessary to have a solicitor draft a letter to both Mitsubishi (Mitsubishi Australia not the dealer to the right person) and the re map provider to remind them both of there obligations this will often cause them to rethink there current response
You might find a solicitor or possibly a barrister to work on contingency arrangement
Well that`s bad luck . A word of advice almost any modification to a vehicle gives the manufacturer an avenue to try and weasel out . Have u tried the ECU upgrade company whats there impression ??? Car makers even refuse warranty with conventional spot lights as it restricts airflow . Includes shade cloth across grills and decorative grill replacements.
The increase in price for transport for a 4x4 is alot higher than passenger car . Then add a premium when non driver smells of a ripoff
Good travels
Cheers.
So true, and yes, we tried all avenues with no luck.
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We did touch bases, but may have to investigate further. Cheers
"weasel out" yeah okay you've remapped the engine and now it's not the same engine that left the factory and it's hasn't been tested or rated to the new specs and there's all worst of implications in terms of operating temperatures and exhaust temps and turbo temps and ignition timing and yet you want the manufacturer to say nahh it's all good mate, we'll cover it even though you've fiddled around with it? Come on, fair's fair, how do you expect that?!
Personally I would not modify a car in warranty at all , but thats my own view . But I do have sympathy for those that get denied warranty all the same . Biggest issue is most 4x4 seem to have some issues and do not like mods. injectors , clutches ,pistons gear box/transmission , diff gears , burnt up LSD clutches . etc etc
When I travel around Australia my Triton I've got a fuel separator.
And a catch can.
Cheers, live and learn. 🤣😭🤣
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Catch can is the easiest way to void a warranty. Extra crankcase pressure can blow out seals and put oil into the intake via the turbo. Not worth it.
So sad 😞 , my brother had a triton and its motor blew was out off warranty and not modified I guess some can be handgrades after that scary
Yes, we are very disappointed as this was our third mitsy.
@@madgibbo44 grab ya nuts splash out and buy a Toyota you won't regret it their amazing , ive learnt from learning from others and havnt looked back got one myself , after all your life is on the line remote out back you need a trustworthy vehicle to keep you and the family safe
@@madgibbo44 Toyota is the go older the better more reliable and robust
Worth speaking to the where the ECU tune was done to see what they will cover?
Looking into it.
Nothing frightens a triton
Bullshit, I scared the crap out of it! 🤣😂
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this sucks ,i know nothing about car motors so i wont pretend to understand what and why you upgraded something BUT really PEVS me when things come with warrantys and 80% of the time theres a way to not get any help from the company you brought it from . all the. best hoppfully yous are back on the road enjoying your travels and making more content soon
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Thanks, it means a lot. Andrea
Buy yourself a petrol 100 series to finish your trip and work out what to do with the Triton later.
If we had the money, we would. Anya
@ understand, we all have finite funds. I feel for you guys. Can you explain what actually failed on the engine? Is it worth taking Mitsubishi on?
Does a gvm upgrade void warranty as well ?? great attitude towards this situation......
Any mods void warranty - as we have now found out! Thanks - still waiting to get our car back. Anya
Cheers!
Bugger, my wife said your away for a long time, but now we know why the van is not in the driveway. Sorry about your set back.
Thank you, yeah, we're gutted.
Thank you - hopefully all sorted soon.
I'd put money on the reason for the engine blowing is oil failure. Modern engines are running super thin oil to improve emissions and economy. They aren't factoring in heavy towing loads and the hot Australian weather.
New 300 series cruisers are lunching engines under 20,000kms for this reason.
If you tow, change your oil every 5000kms even if you do it yourself on the trip. Always use a minimum of 5w30w or 5w40w even on modern engines.
Thank you so much for the tip - we have been getting a lot of feedback about this. Anya
@@russianbotstein1422 I agree mate the oils are going too long until they’re changed these new oil change intervals don’t make any sense at all, proof is in the pudding with my cars they last a long time with 5000 oil changes.
Whats the ECU upgrade do? More fuel/air? If so it's high risk that you will be beyond what the manufacturer recommends for longevity. Add on towing = more fuel plus heat.
Yes, overheating was an issue.
Unfortunately, we were told the opposite. Otherwise, we wouldn't have done it. 👍😎👍
@@madgibbo44 Did you not talk to your dealer/manufacturer or even Google it as it's a well known thing imo?
the mob that did the remap should take on the warranty for the motor. most reputable tuning shops will take on the warranty
Something we're looking into.
I am sure they will say it wasn't anything they did, and you can not prove it either way.
Did a remap of my BT50 3.2 after a bigger exhaust back in 2014 and it was still under warranty.
Have never had a single problem with the engine.
Some do but I'd ask them as a prospective client without letting them know you have an issue.
No tuning shop is go to warrenty a motor aside from factory backed vendors like Tickford and Walkinshaw (back in the day) and Harrod, yeah yeah im sure they say they will but when it comes to the end of the day they will turn around and blame somthing else but the tune and say it wasn't the resault of the tune.
Play you pay been that way since the advent of working up engines.
Hey guys. We have a mq and we done a motor as well. Was it a burnt piston in number 4 cylinder.
Sorry to hear guys, that's the same as ours! I hope you got warranty.
Yep - Anya
What was the reason?
Don’t feel to bad mate my last trip cost me 10 grand when my old td42 cracked a piston
I'm sorry to hear that. It certainly hurts!
It's cost us over 20 grand up to date.
@ I also own a Holden Colorado with that Isuzu 4JJ1 mtr my daughter has it and the last service cost 8 grand to keep it alive . That’s one of the few new sml mtrs that will take big power 300 hp all day mainly because Isuzu still makes a proper little truck mtr.
I wonder how these new v6's will go? @@stevenklauke7797
It sucks hey - seems to be happening a lot. Shame they don't build cars like they used to. Anya
Yes, we hear a lot of good comments about the Isuzu.
So sad sorry things have gone this way.
Thanks mate! 👍😎👍
Thank you, it means a lot. Seems this is happening to a lot of other travellers these days. Anya
Yeah, that’s a bitter pill to swallow
Considering Mitsubishi has a 10 year warranty on drivetrain .
You're not wrong.
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Fine print: 'stock standard, service as per manual'???
What off road/ camping/ overlanding/ caravan enthusiasts is going to leave their 4x4 stock standard for ten years!?😅😅😅
Hey Mate, was the car dyno tuned or was this an off the shelf tune?
No, not dyno tuned just ECU remapped.
GVM upgrades don't make up for the fact your towing a van of almost 3 tonnes with a 2.4 litre engine!
I'm not surprised it blew up!
Who did the ECU?
I honestly think they’re pulling the piss with the GVM upgrade. It hasn’t had one, otherwise it would have the legally required CAT6 indicators for a GVM above 3.5T - prime example of “influencers“ doing the wrong thing and using bullshit baffles brains approach. Same when they come unhitched. New people look to you for advice, so do the right thing FFS.
Our channel is all about showing our adventures. We told everyone from the start that we are new and had know idea what we were doing.
It must be perfect to to be you!
Pedders did the gvm upgrade and we have no reason to lie!
Unfortunately, we know that now.
This was always our dream, and unfortunately, we went into blindly and listened to dealers, not real people.
Very expensive lesson learnt.
I will not name drop, sorry. But they're very reputable.
Well said Gibbo.
@@madgibbo44 yeh nice. Well pedders must of stuffed up on your paperwork then. Because a simple check of your rego says otherwise. Going off the “FACTS” you guys would have to be overweight by a fair bit. You weigh your set up unloaded, no canopy or roof top in an earlier episode. Mass amount of strain for a small engine. Good luck with a new tow rig guys.
Excess weight may kill a transmission or suspension component but as long as you service them religiously and do oil/filters at 5000km ,generally as long as you drive them gently for the first ten minutes and let them idle to cool turbo before shutting off turbo diesels like to be driven like you hate them, within the limits imposed in the ECU programming. Mine (2012) has over 500,000 very hard km on the original motor and still uses less than a litre of oil between 5,000km services. This is my second diesel, the first one(normally aspirated) was sold at 450,000 after towing a LOT of excessively heavy trailers and the new owner has just ticked over 750,000km on it.
Further to my comments a couple of days ago have you tried your Insurance Company because another UA-camr “Paul Wheel Drive” blew the engine of a Toyota Prado allegedly due to contaminated fuel purchased in Kunnanurra and the insurance company wrote it off because he was quoted around $36k for a new engine so he ended up buying a secondhand Ford Ranger. Not suggesting your Triton would be written off as his car was munch older than yours but surely worth a phone call if you haven’t already. Anyway best of luck for a good result.
Cheers, yes, we are looking into this.
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You made up and down the bruce hwy that's a "tick" . With that ECU mapping.. did you get the car serviced by Mitsubishi after you had it done. If you did, they have a duty of care to tell you about the warranty. Anyway, you're safe that's important. everything happens for a reason, I think. Hope you get back on the road soon.
Cheers. We tried everything, but Mitsubishi dropped us like a hot potato and basically said, "Don't ask again."
Thanks Peter, we did, but as Gibbo said they don't care.
when you buy the car new its on the paperwork plus detailed twice in the owners manual and in the service schedule that any modifications will void warranty
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"ANY", even if it's not connected to the fault?
@@madgibbo44I know what I would be doing then just out of principal ... what actually occurred with the engine was it a catastrophic part failure or something other ... bad publicity you think would be worth more than the 15 odd Grand to replace the Donk ... depending of course what occurred interesting business model to say the least. ....... 🫸 Mitsubishi
Check fuel filter and keep sample, bad fuel, then insurance,
Remap and manufacturers will say no, remaps are risky business
Cheers, good idea.
Filter is being replaced. Good idea to keep a sample. I did ask for it to be tested, but I'm sure they won't bother. Andrea
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Stealer makes more money out of a individual, warranty or insurance will pay them less
So what actually happened to the engine? Always worth checking that remaps are covered under warranty, in any country. In my experience altering the map of the car is normally ok, but it depends on what the actual figures they put in. but a map can only do so much towards killing an engine, if the reason is not map related, it may be covered depending on local law, it is likely to be here, but that's the other side of the planet to you guys.
It really is worth having the original ECM and map until the warranty is up, whether you have another ECM is another question, I know some of the guys here do, I intend to have 3 ECM's for travels, you never know what might go wrong.
Yes, unfortunately, an expensive lesson learnt.
Piston 4 failure. Thanks for the comment. Safe travels. Anya
Sorry to hear what happened, did they give a reason for the motor blowing up? Was it fuelling up due to the tune? Not being a smart arse just curious as I hear this with a number of tunes on various models. All the best and hope it works out. Mark.
Thank you!
Yeah, they blamed the tune and said it was a cracked piston due to injector failure.
I like that model Mitsubishi but after hearing that problem with Mitsubishi seem to have a problem with their timing belts and timing chains so what actually went wrong with your Tritons Motor I wouldn't think the ECU would be the the cause of a motor blowing up. I was watch another UA-camr with a 300 series LandCruiser over warranty it broke down and Toyota wouldn't cover it because they have modified the 300 series landcruiser wagon into a four-seater crew cab ute
They will use any excuse to void warranty. Our issue was piston failure.
Yes, unfortunately they're getting more and more expensive and less reliable, car and warranty.
There was a couple who had a motor failure denied because a bullbar was fitted.
@@tallboy49 yes it disrupts air flow unless the bullbar is genuine
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Yep…I wouldn’t get a tune for mine ( V6 Everest) because of warranty… and I don’t believe in these long oil changes they now recommend…. 10000k’s or less… especially if your towing
Yep, lesson learnt
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We'd love a v6 everest or ranger, but unfortunately, we can't afford one. 👍😎👍
Just wondering If you change your Tires to a real A/T Tires would that constute a modification to Void Warranty, I seem They Look for any excuse nowadays to void!
Too right!
Yep
I thought the ecu update companies warrant their work when the mods might have caused the issue?
we all know the manufacturer will not ever cover that (not warranty of the manufacture fault)
Why would remap and ecu changes, not saving much on fuel now
Expensive lesson learnt.
Just thought it would make the engine run better, but had no idea on the consequences. - Anya
It’s because people are sucked into these gimmick tunes and gadgets, the engine is designed to operate as it is in standard form, the moment you add or do anything to the engine or driveline your asking for trouble. I feel for you guys it’s bloody terrible this has happened to you. All the best 👍
Well lesson learnt hey. Thanks heaps xx
Thank you.
It's certainly been one of our best lessons.
Id get another opinion on wether the engine is totally destroyed just from a remap , need to know what is destroyed
I agree, but mittsy wipes you the minute it's remapped.
Time was a huge factor as the caravan is in a park over 2000km away, racking up a bill.
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Piston failure - full engine check done.
It may be legal, but towing another vehicle that weights the same or more than the car, doubles the strain on the engine. All the forces of pulling go to the thrust bearing in the engine. That reduces the life of major components by 50%. The wear on the transmission is double what would normally happen. These utes are not trucks, do not have truck level strength. They are not Landcruisers or Patrols which are more robust.
Yes, mate, an expensive lesson learnt.
We will probably start looking for a second-hand patrol.
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How much warranty did the shop who put in the tune give you ?
Warranty wasn't actually discussed or listed. Do you think we'd have a leg to stand on given it was a piston failure? (Genuine Question) Andrea
@@madaussieadventures well there are so many company's doing tunes. Call or go see them. You were going by what they recommended for your vehicle and towing. Did they have a disclaimer? Manufacturers spend millions on R and D drive trains fuel economy etc. Bet the tuner does not do that. Lots just increase fuel and air to give more power. The components are not designed for this. Tunes and chips need to be called out for this. Company's claims about so called safe tunes should back up those claims with warranties.
@@madaussieadventures Over fueling will almost certainly cause pistons to fail
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what's your definition of over fueling, please?
Having dealt with Mitsubishi engine warranties. You have the right to challenge their verdict. Have the engine assessed by an independent engine repairer. The reason why it blew up might have nothing to do with the engine ecu.
That's exactly what we were going to do but unfortunately distance and time was a huge factor as the car and caravan are over 2000km way and we are paying rent for the caravan in a caravan park. If we still lost, it was added expensive we couldn't afford.
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They tried to void warranty on a work vehicle because we used Ryco oil filters. Fact was the oil pump failed. This is not an uncommon failure for Mitsubishi
The remap ECU gives them an out though.
Get the fuel tested could very well be the cause especially if you just filled up
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iv heard buy it stock leave it stock,untill warranty runs out, then mod it.
Yep, hard lesson learnt.
Absolutely!
it still blows up !
Some car manufacturers have a 10 year warranty these days!?
(Off track: Not sure if they carry over to new owners though?)
Of course Mitsubishi were never going to honour the warranty. That's the inherent risk with tuning an engine. Did you guys factor the decision the tune it knowing this?
No, as we said in the video, if we knew it voided the warranty, we'd never have done it. 👍😎👍
Had no idea, live and learn. Andrea
All the best guys, definately lesson learn't, hope you are back on the road soon 🙏🙏
. Cheers!
BIG lessoned learned, why didnt you know not to touch the ECU under warranty. Another lesson to learn a second hand could cost you more than a rebuild in the short and long run. My Goodness. Triton is also not the car to tamper with,.
Yes, a huge lesson learnt. Heaps of people I've been talking to didn't know, and they've done theirs too.
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why are they haters just for having an opinion, part of the problem of the world today . no respect . there only comments for god sake .
I know where you're coming from and agree, but....
I love all comments, even the haters as they give me a good laugh.
Some people don't have an actual comment they just want to talk crap with no facts then call you a dickhead, not that I'm denying being a dickhead. 😂😂
99% of the comments are great.
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These twin cab utes are not made to tow such excess weight!
I have earlier model Triton & we have a 3 angle horse float that is 1 ton dry,add 3 Welsh mountain ponies & probably up to 2.2 to 2.5 ton & this is the maximum I would tow.
Have bought wife's a Y62 Patrol to tow horse float & it does it with ease,even fully loaded.
All these manufacturers selling twin cab utes to tow 3.5 ton is BS,add to that diesel tuners who don't know what they are doing.Plus trying to get more power out of small 4 cylinder engines is a joke,more fuel/air = more heat which kills engines & transmissions.
I had a warranty job for my Mitsubishi MN Triton,overheating engine as had bad machining on block.KINGS Mitsubishi in Ballarat were exceptional & replaced engine with a new long engine.
Kings In Ballarat were exceptional & I didn't buy the car from them.The service manager was a woman & rang Mitsubishi HQ in Adelaide & got the go ahead for new engine,only thing I paid for was a heavy duty clutch as the car had done 70,000Km plus so while engine was out I got Kings in Ballarat to do clutch,$900.00 was the bill.
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But consider buying a V8,not working as hard when towing,mountain of power & torque & excellent on fuel!
Absolutely mate!
We are selling the triton and hoping to buy a y62 patrol. $$$$ is our only hold back.
Not sure what your engine blow up entails, however I understand many newer 4WD s are running 0w20 engine oil which gives less internal engine friction and better mpg, and less polluting to environment. The downside is that 0w20 breaks down when extremely hot towing heavy loads and say bye bye to crankshaft bearings. 5w30 or 10w40 is recommended for sustained heavy load conditions . Just a thought you might want to consider in searching for an answer to your engine failure.
Piston - I know nothing about engines, but friction says a lot.
Can you repeat that in English. Lol
Unfortunately we can't investigate as it's over 2000km away and we have no time or extra finances. 👍😎👍
Just like the new 300 series cruising are converting their bottom ends to toast ..thanks to 0-20w weight oil ...and Toyota have to pay ...unless you have left a thumbprint on the air box ...toasting a 300 engine will be an expensive mistake ...totally wrong oil for the engine...
Car companies like insurance companies will every loophole to not pay up.
Of course - the amount of money we all pay for insurance makes me feel sick when it's likely you wont be covered.
Absolutely, mate!
So sad to here guys, the reason they blow up is because these tiny little common rail diesels are generally working there ass off , once they’ve had a tune that is not ideal they can see to much fuel which makes them run hot and burn up, any diesel towing a huge weight ,and that van is massive weight for that car should have a boost and EGT GAUGE ,it could have been as simple as seeing your exhaust temp rising and simply going down one gear ,if you choose to keep towing with that car fit the gauges and drive to the gauge all the best
Thank you, that's some great advice. We'll definitely look into it.
Sounds like we need to get rid of the car and get a proper tow vehicle.
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Thanks for the tip. Andrea
Nephew has a bitsamissing Triton dual cab diesel Ute - 6 years old with 67,000 kms - so just out of warranty & the block cracked ffs.
No ECU program tunes etc.
Probably should get a new engine out of Mitsubishi under Australian Consumer Law Guarantee.
Weren’t even towing at the time.
Probably gonna be a sh!t show involving lawyers (family so zero cost to sue Mitzi under the ACLG Act).
See where it goes.
So you’re not alone.
Bitsamissing! 🤣😂🤣😂
Sooo sorry to hear, I hope you have better luck than us! Please let us know how you go, thinking of you.
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It just sucks hey. haha ' bitsamissing Triton' (haven't heard that one) 😆