A Warning To Pastors About Shincheonji (New Heaven New Earth Church)

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  • Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
  • Jordan Hatfield talks with pastor Dénes House about the dangers of the South Korean based organization called "Shincheonji" or SCJ. The behaviors and tactics of this group put it into the category of a destructive, high-demand and high-control cult group.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 35

  • @raheempeters6813
    @raheempeters6813 Рік тому +9

    I am so ready for this. So bring it on!!!

  • @SCJSkeptic
    @SCJSkeptic Рік тому +10

    Excited to see it 😎👍

  • @jimhelzer5589
    @jimhelzer5589 Рік тому +6

    Great conversation. A lot of good points were raised in this video. Thank you both!

  • @missmichelex
    @missmichelex Рік тому +11

    SCJ infiltrating other churches and trying to recruit pastors is a one up on the WMSCOG 😂. The WMSCOG teaches that even setting foot in another church causes spiritual death 🙄

  • @lemmetjie
    @lemmetjie Рік тому +5

    Nice set of insights from the discussion you guys had.
    When we've heard a thing repeated over and over again, that doesn't make it correct. However, it can lead us to believe and accept that the thing itself is correct even when it's not, because we can sometimes confuse a statement's familiarity with accuracy.
    As the saying goes knowledge is power and ignorance is powerlessness.
    Thank you both for spreading awareness about SCJ.

  • @gabriellewooding3898
    @gabriellewooding3898 Рік тому +3

    I just left this group today. With individuals they don’t tell you the name of there group the only way I found out was I was sending people invites on social media and someone warned me. I had been meeting with them about 10 months and when I asked them are we SCJ she said yes but we don’t tell people that in the beginning was such a red flag. I just wanted more knowledge and understanding that I get from a Sunday sermon.

  • @compassion777
    @compassion777 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for sharing. I appreciate your courage and commitment to the truth.

  • @seppukuguru7706
    @seppukuguru7706 Рік тому +1

    Happy to see this. Just got off a call with an SCJ member, we have been meeting for the past 2 weeks. He was addressing some of my concerns. He very sincerely believes, confesses Christ as his Lord, knows his way around scripture etc. It's a bit confounding speaking to someone like that. I need more info on this group so this is helpful

    • @GreatLightStudios
      @GreatLightStudios  Рік тому +2

      I'm glad the video is helpful to you! It can definitely be confusing talking to members of groups like the SCJ who have such a sincere faith and passion for the bible, yet are so confused in their beliefs about it. I hope things go well with this person you are meeting with and that you can help them to get free.

  • @bombimpressionsministry
    @bombimpressionsministry 8 місяців тому

    I am currently in the group. I get distracted by the boredom but i began to question some things. They said that the reason for the deception is one Jesus didnt reveal who he was before he taught. He also said bc Abraham didnt tell his wife when he was taking Isaac up to be sacrificed. I told him i didnt need NewJohn and they said it is the fulfillment of the word. Im so thankful for this. I could say alot more..Let me listen to this video

  • @davethinkingsystems
    @davethinkingsystems Рік тому

    This was really informative, both in respect to the group as well as just basic theology. Perhaps the pastor could put out a series of videos on basic theology, he is really really clear and I think a lot of people would benefit. I agree with the pastor in that some churches don't teach the bible. The church I am in (Methodist UK) are very weak on bible study and a lot of the pastors have a very liberal hermeneutic. It is why I almost got caught by them.

  • @crait
    @crait Рік тому

    Great video! Definitely need to emphasize how they think that lying is okay! I met many SCJ members, here in Korea, who straight up said, "Yeah, lying is OK." The Bible is explicit that it's a sin! Even if it was okay, why would you WANT to be living a life full of lies?

    • @Fattboiixx
      @Fattboiixx Рік тому

      Didn’t the disciples lie ?

    • @crait
      @crait Рік тому

      @Fattboiixx , every person lies. We are all fallible, and we are all sinners. If someone lies in the Bible, that doesn't mean the Bible is promoting it. There are murders and theft in the Bible, but that doesn't mean the Bible is promoting those things.

  • @hadassah179
    @hadassah179 Рік тому

    Cultic behaviors and rituals can have devastating effects on the brain and people's lives. Often taking advantage of vulnerable people in search of comfort and identity, they *disable critical thinking processes and freeze emotional processing* to both gain and maintain control over their members.

  • @sanalouis2620
    @sanalouis2620 11 місяців тому

    Amen 🙏

  • @thelimatheou
    @thelimatheou 4 місяці тому

    The fruits of Protestantism

  • @jonathanjerry8685
    @jonathanjerry8685 8 місяців тому

    They are playing so manipulative. In region of India and Pakistan they describe their chairman as new John while in USA they tell that only he has the God's spirit

    • @Sarah-mine
      @Sarah-mine Місяць тому

      He is the Holy Spirit in John 14

  • @georgbratz8885
    @georgbratz8885 Рік тому +4

    Please google "crimes of the protestant church". - And no need to mention the catholic church. Dear Pastor: If your church is without sins, you may throw the stone first. Shincheonji-members are Christian believers who love Jesus, pray to God, pray for their enemies (maybe for you?), study and teach the Bible and have a special oppinion concerning the Revelation. This is not forbidden. They do not change any word in the Bible. They do not force anybody to join their congregation nor do they hinder anyone to leave them. They do not steal money from their members. They obey the Ten Commandments and the national law. They are no criminals, and there way of living Christianity is protected by the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Therefore, let us tolerate and respect them as we tolerate all religions.

    • @user-wn3xe2js9s
      @user-wn3xe2js9s 10 місяців тому

      Yes, but their worshiping a mans name and his wife. How do you explain that??

  • @ilovemyboyfriend5425
    @ilovemyboyfriend5425 Рік тому

    need do one bout Watchman Nee The local churches

  • @deongroupe5826
    @deongroupe5826 Рік тому

    Jesus asked the question when He comes again will He find faith, why when there are a lot of churches? People persecute because they don't perceive or were not given perception, you see Jesus chooses, did you even know that, so what you feel or want to believe that's you my man, Mt11:27, (Jesus choose s)
    Just like the saducees and teachers of law in the OT, said about Jesus that he was a demom and cult, you 2 b:c you do not perceive, persecute, but this is what is suppose to happen if you believe the Bible, God please forgive them for they know not what they are doing 😢

    • @SCJSkeptic
      @SCJSkeptic Рік тому +1

      How does this video persecute anybody? Your usage of the word perception is rather strange. Perhaps you mean "understanding".

    • @LalalandLizzy
      @LalalandLizzy 8 місяців тому

      I thought he already came in LMH?

  • @deongroupe5826
    @deongroupe5826 Рік тому +2

    I have listened to your video, I am so so sorry that you are way off the truth unfortunately, why don't you go to Shincheonji yourself and ask them directly instead of spewing this nonsense, do you think there is no consequences to your actions, do you think God does not know what you have done?

    • @SCJSkeptic
      @SCJSkeptic Рік тому +2

      What specifically did he state that is "way off the truth"?