@MdoubleHB The most jealous are those who share the most hate. Too bad you couldn't use it towards something productive. Should probably eat more meat. There's no question your hormones are F'd being vegan. Nutrient deficiencies all over the place.
Ideally you want to incorporate this at the beginning of your bodybuilding journey for full results. Most dont give rear delts the attention they require from day one and the end result shows it.
Bro the fucked up part is he's being real when he's talking about the Korean style stuff. Joking about it and having fun but the content is some shit that actually happens in Korea.
Is this a dude who's getting out of the sports car in that video and he like rolls out, I saw that a while back. Think it's a Lambo but don't recall. I just remember it was a BROAD af shouldered Asian dude 🙌
My guy said its amazing how bodybuilders can bring people of different cultures in the world together and the translator said body building is good for the world because of workouts. Its incredibly hard to translate what you understand into a second language so it was a great try
The more I study a 2nd language, the more I have started to see that many translators are not very good at translating. Lots of important details are frequently missed.
I remember watching this guys videos many years ago just to motivate me in the gym. I still have some songs from his videos on my playlist. That’s how inspiring he was. I never saw someone so massive. He’s up there with Jay Cutler in my opinion. Insane that he’s 40 years old and looks absolutely amazing.
@@sungbean6062 everyone in the bodybuilding industry sustain their size with drug lol, but not everyone can look as good as Chul Soon, especially at his age.
@@spotted_stingray If his first name is Chul soon, then his name would be Chul soon. You don't call people by their surname... You don't go "Hey Schwarzenegger" 한국인 무식하다는거 보여주지 말고 ㅂㅂ
Yeah, I saw some videos of him a few years back and was blown away by his delt and pec development. Never knew what a great sense of humor he has. This was a good collaboration.
Chul's back shoulder training is exactly what I was looking for. Perfect execution. Larry is throwing the weight around while Chul is actually hitting the muscle perfect.
@@andrewconner613 but almost no muscle tension. Chul moves 10 pounds like 100 pounds. Full ROM with 0,5 sec time under tension is good to show that you're strong but it has nothing to do with bodybuilding.
I mean like any new exercise you have to learn the technique firts to actually gradually add more weight if not you would be just wasting your time because there wouldnt be much benefit of it. Larry as always its amaizing lowered the weight because it was an exercise that has never done so can learn the technique correctly firts, he doesnt work only hard but also smart an perfect example.
@@Dbzlatino27 nothing against Larry and his accomplishments, but in my eyes, Chul is the better bodybuilder. Larry is a powerlifter, completely different ballgame.
Both of their physiques are phenomenal. Amazing strength from the both of you. I don't work out at all these days. But damn Larry's videos are so entertaining and motivating as hell.
I discovered bodybuilding with a chull soon motivation vid almost 7 or more years ago and followed him since, really nice to see larry and him train together.
I wish they had all this stuff back in the day. It is amazing how you can easily reach out to others all over the world to get together for a workout. You learn so much from others. Love it! Keep it up LW😉
When this two big body builder work out you don't know how far they will go it's amazing how they worked out like they know each other since high school what an inspirasion to all the young gun's
he aint humble the mother fucker lies about being natty and even goes further by starting a movement to call out and expose fake natty's and drug user yet get exposed himself and he was caught assaulting people and shit
"Larry that was not a shoulder press, that was a chest workout" sounds like a Karen to me. No need to get defensive cause people are calling you out 😂 relax
@@rizvichoudhury5806 if you knew how muscles worked you would understand that touching the chest and shoulder at bottom of the lift contracts the chest way more. Hes focusing on delts. Do some research
Larry Wheels form is something to admire man that’s crazy how full range of motion he executed perfectly. I fully respect people who train full range of motion and controlled it’s crazy how difficult that is.
Chul Soon, man oh man I love the music he dances to, the music choice that goes with the bodybuilding dancing is on another level, you guys have to see it on UA-cam it's sort of lethargic like poetry really relaxing and goosebumps. It's what the Japanese would call "Umami" feeling.
Major respect to this man Chul great lifting technique awesome style of training. Mans a true bodybuilder. One of the most interesting bodybuilders you’ve had on your page.
LARRY!!! I must say you are looking sooo soo so much healthier and look in better shape imo. You have lost size but size isn't everything. You still strong as an OX! Thanks for finally doiing this collab with Chul Soon. Great content!
What a legend. I remember watching chul soon when I was young and literally never believing his body was even real. Also good to see everyone in here who thinks every human body and muscle is the same and nobody has any differences in the way their body and muscles are built/connected.
I love collabs like this Two builders that have only seen each other through the internet, but still have massive respect for each other. Like two different worlds meeting and showing their love for the same sport they have passion for.
chuls technique and half reps would be laughed at if someone smaller was to train this way a lot of people don’t realise how hard it is to keep them muscles constantly flexed for high reps the guy looks incredible especially for his age 💯
Its way way easier to keep them muscle glexed constwntly for high reps. If the range of motion is only 3 inches. Dont believe me try it yourself. Try doing pause reps full range of motion and 1-3 inch constant tension reps
Have you stepped foot in a gym before? There's a difference between keeping your muscle under tension by not fully extending your arms and barely doing a half rep. You can still keep your muscle under tension by doing 90% ROM...
Been enjoying watching Larry learning from bodybuilding gods. Despite how strong he is, I like that he is very humble and willing to learn, in the way he networks with all these big guys. Don't be surprised if he becomes Mr. Olympia one day.
Watch this guy's form/ technique, rep ranges and use of only moderate weight/ no ego lifting just working on maximizing the pump. If you're interested in bodybuilding then I suggest you copy Chul and his diet suggestions! Larry's style of lifting techniques is for a guy who's into powerlifting 💯
larry i love how you always go right down with the weights! I always do it no matter what others say. you still have unlimited power despite kicking! stay true to yourself and stay healthy! Allss good, your fan from Germany.
Chul was one of those body builders who’s videos went viral for crazy lines and detail along with his dancing! Great to see he’s still in great shape! Was always a huge fan of his but man is Larry the snoop dog of bodybuilding 🤣 mans on every side quest known to gym with these collabs 😂
Larry is stronger and doing a better range of motion and can throw the weights around as he pleases. However, with Chul's technique and execution, it somehow looks like he is engaging the muscle in a more hypertrophic fashion. The tension never goes away, it is just a bit of movement with a long time under tension and constant flexing, with the mind connected inside the muscle. For Chul it is all bodybuilding, not impressing anyone with competition-level full-rom strength sets. Also, there's no point in doing cheat reps and extending the set in the end, if you through the set let the muscle relax, and you never got a true muscle-building set in the first place. You might as well do it as well and as long as you can, and then it is done. You're training the muscle, not the CNS, if strength is not the aim. If you did it properly, there's no need to be red in the face in the end of every set. The muscle is now stimulated, and if you feed and supplement the muscle properly, the growth will happen. Then just repeat. It's easy.
But the way he does it emphasizes the triceps more so than the shoulders. Triceps are more active during the lockout but shoulders are more active in the lower half. Sure there is lots of stimulation it just isn't ideal. Check out renaissance periodization's content on full rom training for hypertrophy
I just want to point out that you are 100% spot on if you're taking steroids, if you're a natural you need to train for strength and do a lot more. If you're on steroids, pump and grow and enjoy life.
Had a great time.
See you in Seoul
묻혀버렸네
찐이당
조회수 500만 나오고
댓글은 묻혔누 ㅠㅠ
Mr 25% reps
@@FoolieexJetzx Still big
Larry Wheels still continues to surprise me everyday with these collabs!
I missed these type of collabs!
Still alot more we want
Do they pay them to collab?
I lifted 150 kg for biceps can you?
@MdoubleHB The most jealous are those who share the most hate. Too bad you couldn't use it towards something productive. Should probably eat more meat. There's no question your hormones are F'd being vegan. Nutrient deficiencies all over the place.
The amount of respect these two have for eachother is beautiful
@MdoubleHB shush no one cares
@MdoubleHB one word "bull shit" for ya
@MdoubleHB bait
Gay
@MdoubleHB bait
The amount of respect that was just respected by these two has to be respected with the utmost respect
well said lol
the respect man truly amazing respect in this very respectful video
You're giving them a lot of respect for the respect they showed.
I respect that.
Respect
😂😂😂
I tried the rear delt exercise where he was laying on his side. Incredible. It's now a part of my routine
Ideally you want to incorporate this at the beginning of your bodybuilding journey for full results. Most dont give rear delts the attention they require from day one and the end result shows it.
It´s a variation that Arnold and his squad did in the 70s....
@@daliborpuchta1952he never said chul invented it…….
@daliborpuchta1952 standing on the shoulders of giants you could say...
Soleus muscle armpit on Tara
Chul is not just a bodybuilder but also a comedian . 😂
Yeah man he is a really funny and humble this video probably has the humbliest bodybuilders in the world
Bro the fucked up part is he's being real when he's talking about the Korean style stuff. Joking about it and having fun but the content is some shit that actually happens in Korea.
Jackie chan 🤗
Is this a dude who's getting out of the sports car in that video and he like rolls out, I saw that a while back. Think it's a Lambo but don't recall. I just remember it was a BROAD af shouldered Asian dude 🙌
@@thebirdhasbeencharged lol I should have checked the comments before I posted. I just posted about that.
Dam... Larry Collabs with right people at the right time and right place. His channel growing so fast.
@edward simmons he did before bozo
@edward simmons 😂
Its been growing lmao 2.5M subs
I lifted 150 kg for biceps can you?
@@captainbiceps6562 I don’t give a fuck bro, smd
Larry's channel is literally were legends meet. amazing.
The amount of respect larry is giving him 🫡 larry is always ready to learn
My guy said its amazing how bodybuilders can bring people of different cultures in the world together and the translator said body building is good for the world because of workouts.
Its incredibly hard to translate what you understand into a second language so it was a great try
😄🤣
The more I study a 2nd language, the more I have started to see that many translators are not very good at translating. Lots of important details are frequently missed.
@@in_vas_por8810 yuuup haha, this
Always dope to see Larry learn and grow at his level. Man stays humble and has a passion for learning 🙏
I remember watching this guys videos many years ago just to motivate me in the gym. I still have some songs from his videos on my playlist. That’s how inspiring he was. I never saw someone so massive. He’s up there with Jay Cutler in my opinion. Insane that he’s 40 years old and looks absolutely amazing.
I mean he’s sustaining this size with drugs so it’s only reasonable. Not to downplay the hard work also put in
@@sungbean6062 everyone in the bodybuilding industry sustain their size with drug lol, but not everyone can look as good as Chul Soon, especially at his age.
Roids doing miracles sometimes...😁
his chest is other-worldlyl, comparable to Arnold imo
Chul is always funny and cheerful. Also Larry is always gentle and pleasant.
Chul is amazing body builder and respect 9:25 when he said no foot to dumbbell and used his hands to keep a side.... 💪
Back then when I was all out working out hitting the gym. I remember watching Chul Soon and I would get motivated to do better.
chul is 40 and looking still 20s and his form is full body builder for sure and his gym etiquette is out of this world korean style.
actually his name is Hwang, and Chul soon is first name
First name: Chul Soon
Last name: Hwang
wait he's 40???? what?
@@spotted_stingray If his first name is Chul soon, then his name would be Chul soon.
You don't call people by their surname... You don't go "Hey Schwarzenegger"
한국인 무식하다는거 보여주지 말고 ㅂㅂ
@@bingbongparty what’s wrong?
This guy is such a legend. Literally would see videos of him when I was younger and wonder if he was a real person or not
Yeah, I saw some videos of him a few years back and was blown away by his delt and pec development. Never knew what a great sense of humor he has. This was a good collaboration.
@MdoubleHB They are not athletes but entertainers.
Don’t force anybody to follow your thoughts.
Watching his face and the way he talks, reminds me of Jackie Chan .. both are Legend :-D
@MdoubleHB lol oh man you crack me up man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MdoubleHB I think you might have insanity bud
Chul's back shoulder training is exactly what I was looking for. Perfect execution. Larry is throwing the weight around while Chul is actually hitting the muscle perfect.
Larry had full ROM?
@@andrewconner613 Chul is 40 and looks like that so I think he has good reason why he isn't doing full ROM or he is just ego lifting.
@@andrewconner613 but almost no muscle tension. Chul moves 10 pounds like 100 pounds. Full ROM with 0,5 sec time under tension is good to show that you're strong but it has nothing to do with bodybuilding.
I mean like any new exercise you have to learn the technique firts to actually gradually add more weight if not you would be just wasting your time because there wouldnt be much benefit of it. Larry as always its amaizing lowered the weight because it was an exercise that has never done so can learn the technique correctly firts, he doesnt work only hard but also smart an perfect example.
@@Dbzlatino27 nothing against Larry and his accomplishments, but in my eyes, Chul is the better bodybuilder. Larry is a powerlifter, completely different ballgame.
Both of their physiques are phenomenal. Amazing strength from the both of you. I don't work out at all these days. But damn Larry's videos are so entertaining and motivating as hell.
Larry is already insanely huge, but next to Chul he looks slim 😂
Drugs
@@dueusjhdhwidhshfhe5129 REALLLY????!!!???! NO WAY!!!
Falso...lo único q chul es superiior es en hombro
I discovered bodybuilding with a chull soon motivation vid almost 7 or more years ago and followed him since, really nice to see larry and him train together.
Me too he was famous that time 2015
Larry’s such a humble dude. And the Korean guy is a beast!
Great guest to have 💪🏻💪🏻
his name is literally in the title
Is he north korean? I thought they dying for food
@@ji3200 stupid?? Are you still asking about South Korea and North Korea? 😮💨😮💨
@@ji3200South korean
@ji3200 stop watching corporate news.
Man chul is strong. Also kudos to larry for out of the box collabs 💗💗💗💗
chul soon's shoulders are the biggest I have ever seen in my life. real impressive
I wish they had all this stuff back in the day. It is amazing how you can easily reach out to others all over the world to get together for a workout. You learn so much from others. Love it! Keep it up LW😉
It's great what we have now... imagine what we'll have in the future :)
True, as long as one realizes that you need special vitamins to work out like that.
The famous fistbump vs handshake have ruined to many moments ! love u guys
I just found a golden nugget with this video. That shoulder workout looks intense.. a must do. Thanks!
Chul Soon seems like a nice guy as well as a great body builder 👌👍💯
When this two big body builder work out you don't know how far they will go it's amazing how they worked out like they know each other since high school what an inspirasion to all the young gun's
i like that there's no crazy metal music edited in. just workout
Same, fuck that shit lol
Chul has such a cool energy can you believe how good he looks at 40?! Asians don't age ! Hope to see Larry Collab with him again he's a beast
They age rapidly after hitting a certain age. Genetics
It's not about asains or koreans. He is a special man
The rock is black and Samoan but he doesn’t age
@@wonderfool1772 no shit….
All about cem stells. You can Look even better in this age.
It’s amazing how Chul is funny simple and humble. Huge respect for a 40 yo bodybuilder … impressive form
impressive form?🤣🤣🤣🤡
@@marcGOAT1 you're the 🤡here kiddo
?????????????
he aint humble the mother fucker lies about being natty and even goes further by starting a movement to call out and expose fake natty's and drug user yet get exposed himself and he was caught assaulting people and shit
Who is 40? Him?
Larry that was not a shoulder press, that was a chest work out
Bruh what lmao he was doing shoulder presses... Seated Dumbbell Shoulder press.
Its isolation shoulder press you get about 10-20% more muscle activation when it's done seated than standing with a barbell.....
Wtf is wrong with people. Why do you even write the comment? What's the reason?
@@CAeuJohno123 karren
"Larry that was not a shoulder press, that was a chest workout" sounds like a Karen to me. No need to get defensive cause people are calling you out 😂 relax
Amazing how Chul Soon isolates targeted area so perfectly
*Truly one of the best shoulder workout routine I ever saw after the golden era style*
Such a great guy, Chul! Always there to help, assist and make some jokes😂😂 great content to watch
Now that was a great one! Larry looks happy, strong, and healthy.
I got a shoulder pump from just watching this workout.
Talk about volume holy sh!t. 💪
Chul is a legend been following him since musclemania days. Surprised he didn't break dance 😂
This is Hwang Chul-soon(黄哲勋). Korea's biggest bodybuilder is Lee Seung-chul(李承哲）, who placed 10th at Arnold 2021
title is "biggest and most famous". not just biggest.
Savage reply 😎
Did you just type their names in Japanese? I just learned the Korean alphabet recently and those characters are unfamiliar to me
@@samsemerau6802 it's chinese maybe the guy who commented is chinese
These are Chinese characters and not Korean (Hangul), yes.
One of the most entertaining videos on Larry's channel!!
Chul Soon is the one having that epic video of "How many kilos are the dumbbells you lift?" Right?
Yup the back guy bid
which one? the one where he dances and does SIDE CHESTO
I love Chul. He looks like he’s 30 when he’s 40!
He looks very young yup
Larry looks like he is in his forties
@@peaceout7378 lol larry is 14 years younger than him and he looks like he's older
Because of kpop plastic surgery
Ang larry looks at late 30s when oncycle truly asian genetics
Chul's warmup with the 40kgs was nuts. Over 20 reps, each one identical, with a pause at the bottom.
Half reps
@@rizvichoudhury5806 if you knew how muscles worked you would understand that touching the chest and shoulder at bottom of the lift contracts the chest way more. Hes focusing on delts. Do some research
@@rizvichoudhury5806 He doesn't need to do full range of motion he already has muscles just pumping
Это называется выполнения внутри амплитуды - не до конца
@@rizvichoudhury5806 larry just explained that part at 5:05
Larry killing those 60kg dumbbells.
I didn't know Chul was that strong. Beast! I can't wait to see the workout video when you visit his gym.
Larry Wheels form is something to admire man that’s crazy how full range of motion he executed perfectly. I fully respect people who train full range of motion and controlled it’s crazy how difficult that is.
I really respect how Chul is considerate of slamming weights
15:54 30-10-10 This is the 'back of the shoulder' routine he has been following for over 10 years.
Chul is a beast. He was still working on shoulders after those burn sets.
This workout looks amazing - cant wait to try!!
Koreans are so humble I love this guy already and it’s the first time I have seen him. I will follow him
Wow Larry I've been waiting for this guy to come over and work out with you 💪
Chul Soon is a legend.
Chul Soon, man oh man I love the music he dances to, the music choice that goes with the bodybuilding dancing is on another level, you guys have to see it on UA-cam it's sort of lethargic like poetry really relaxing and goosebumps. It's what the Japanese would call "Umami" feeling.
lol who asked
Wtf are u on bruh
@@MrTiktok4umami he likes sushi
Major respect to this man Chul great lifting technique awesome style of training. Mans a true bodybuilder. One of the most interesting bodybuilders you’ve had on your page.
Full range vs Half range... both are still very difficult with heavy weights High Reps. but extra points to full range dumbbell press.
LARRY!!! I must say you are looking sooo soo so much healthier and look in better shape imo. You have lost size but size isn't everything. You still strong as an OX! Thanks for finally doiing this collab with Chul Soon. Great content!
lol Larry doing the Single arm Rear delt flys laying on the bench was something else.
What a legend. I remember watching chul soon when I was young and literally never believing his body was even real.
Also good to see everyone in here who thinks every human body and muscle is the same and nobody has any differences in the way their body and muscles are built/connected.
I love collabs like this
Two builders that have only seen each other through the internet, but still have massive respect for each other.
Like two different worlds meeting and showing their love for the same sport they have passion for.
Dawg respect to larry recognizing he injures every mf tryin to keep up with him
Chul is chill. Glowing. Super body. Koreans are humble. Disciplined. Larry motivate the whole world.
chuls technique and half reps would be laughed at if someone smaller was to train this way a lot of people don’t realise how hard it is to keep them muscles constantly flexed for high reps the guy looks incredible especially for his age 💯
Yeah he looks like at least 10 years younger than his actual age
Its way way easier to keep them muscle glexed constwntly for high reps. If the range of motion is only 3 inches. Dont believe me try it yourself. Try doing pause reps full range of motion and 1-3 inch constant tension reps
Have you stepped foot in a gym before? There's a difference between keeping your muscle under tension by not fully extending your arms and barely doing a half rep. You can still keep your muscle under tension by doing 90% ROM...
Exactly
Lerry Wheel beast💪💪💪💪
This is the remake of Rush Hour folks! The evolution of Chris Rock and Jackie Chan.
Chul soon is currently locked in jail :(
I’m gonna try this. Lotta great useful tips in this episode. Thank you very much Larry and Chul.
Good advice, if it hurts don't do it. Muscle burning is different, but joint pain and pain around tendons is never a good thing. 👍
Larry is like the bruc lee of bodybuilding always learning from everyone and teach too
You guys are so humble bro...Larry u may not as big as chul but you seems are really strong guy.
Been enjoying watching Larry learning from bodybuilding gods. Despite how strong he is, I like that he is very humble and willing to learn, in the way he networks with all these big guys. Don't be surprised if he becomes Mr. Olympia one day.
Watch this guy's form/ technique, rep ranges and use of only moderate weight/ no ego lifting just working on maximizing the pump. If you're interested in bodybuilding then I suggest you copy Chul and his diet suggestions! Larry's style of lifting techniques is for a guy who's into powerlifting 💯
Oh man, you are a legend, Larry
Larry is alot smaller than he used to be but looks alot healthier
He isn't blasting anymore
Yeah looks healthier
This guy is what Neo really looked like in the Matrix
Chul everytime said elbow straight
Also his elbow in every set 🦾
Chul's technique is perfect
You have my respect for being the most natural bodybuilder in Korea.
You have my respect for not getting BBL
He is natty and weak, he should take roids to become better 😊
For as big as he is, he has a ton of endurance as well. It reminds me of Eddie Hall with his high reps
This guy is an absolute beast. Been waiting to see him do a collab with Larry Wheels.
Guy just reminds me of Jackie chan, with his humbleness, humour, and the joy he has for what he loves
Did legs this morning (8:00) and this makes me want to go back and do shoulders (16:14 rn). This is the best shoulder pump I have ever seen.
Guys a phenomenal bodybuilder. He's been around a while. Seems like a cool dude!
He’s got some well built shoulders. That’s all reps!! Both have great humor!!
larry i love how you always go right down with the weights! I always do it no matter what others say. you still have unlimited power despite kicking! stay true to yourself and stay healthy! Allss good, your fan from Germany.
seems like a really nice chill guy
Like that just raw video sound , not editing or music 🙌👌
lol Chul is like a body builder version of Jackie Chan, always joking around
Chul was one of those body builders who’s videos went viral for crazy lines and detail along with his dancing! Great to see he’s still in great shape! Was always a huge fan of his but man is Larry the snoop dog of bodybuilding 🤣 mans on every side quest known to gym with these collabs 😂
You have some name my friend
ik for a fact all your teachers had a hard time with your name
Larry callabs are the best thing in bodybuilding content makers i love it 😅
Meanwhile i oove chul comedy about
Ronnie the legend Coleman
I love how Larry is always learning in bodybuilding
That korean guy is a beast🤯🥵
Chul sooooooon!!! What an awesome collab, you need to link up with him in korea larry
Larry ain’t human to be this strong and maintain bb aesthetics is incredible 💪🏼💪🏼
As someone said he is not the biggest in Korea, Lee seung-chul is the biggest in Korea and it would be awesome if you could do a collab with him !
I think he meant by fame. I'm not Korean and I know chul soon lol
Man larry lv u from soul . 1 life live it . Be who u wanna be . May god give u more strength long live lv u inspiration
Loved it! Chul is so funny
Chul Soon is Calm And Respectful Like Indians 🥺🥺
Best shoulder routine I've ever seen. Chul's body is real definitely.
Korean hulk out lifted Larry wheels😳
I have a new found respect for this Korean bodybuilder 💪
Larry is stronger and doing a better range of motion and can throw the weights around as he pleases. However, with Chul's technique and execution, it somehow looks like he is engaging the muscle in a more hypertrophic fashion. The tension never goes away, it is just a bit of movement with a long time under tension and constant flexing, with the mind connected inside the muscle. For Chul it is all bodybuilding, not impressing anyone with competition-level full-rom strength sets.
Also, there's no point in doing cheat reps and extending the set in the end, if you through the set let the muscle relax, and you never got a true muscle-building set in the first place. You might as well do it as well and as long as you can, and then it is done. You're training the muscle, not the CNS, if strength is not the aim. If you did it properly, there's no need to be red in the face in the end of every set. The muscle is now stimulated, and if you feed and supplement the muscle properly, the growth will happen. Then just repeat. It's easy.
Chul does what works for him...that's why he is big
Yes🙏
But the way he does it emphasizes the triceps more so than the shoulders. Triceps are more active during the lockout but shoulders are more active in the lower half. Sure there is lots of stimulation it just isn't ideal. Check out renaissance periodization's content on full rom training for hypertrophy
I just want to point out that you are 100% spot on if you're taking steroids, if you're a natural you need to train for strength and do a lot more. If you're on steroids, pump and grow and enjoy life.
@@Preetishh irrelevant.