Someone finally made it 🙏🏾. I always wondered if the 6 speed would fit a third gen or even the 8 speed. Plan on doing a swap next year with a l92 and 6l80. Great video!
@@lsXmatt is that a bmr tubular ls crossmember? If you cant use it I will buy it from you. I need on for my twin turbo ls build. Also is it for stock steering setup? I REALLY REALLY NEED that crossmember if it is.
Wow Congrats! Fingers crossed, lov'en this, now you are making me re-think my build. That 6 speed will be fantastic. Sad you couldn't get that BMR unit to work. Thanks.
That was a great video. It's good to see there are mounts that will work with the stock K-member and a stock location AC mount on a 5th(?) Gen small block. Looking forward to how you're going to tackle fueling.
Good deal!!! I removed the old hard fuel lines so if you use a bypass fuel pressure regulator you won’t need a return so I use a push lock -8 line. Glad to see you found those swap mounts they work great for me
I was 6 yrs old when this car was out and my older bro had one this same color. It was a very cool car then and still now, glad to see these classics on the road I really never thought about it at that age but these things were everywhere seen all versions of them.
That sucked that you had to go through that, it was great that you were able to find a solution. I am probably looking at the SBC to 2014-up LT LT1 Engine Swap Bracket Conversion for Motor Mounts.
I was surprised how easily the L76 6L80e combo fit in our 87 Formula project. The internet would have you believe you have to cut the tunnel out! It’s interesting how gm raised the crank centerline in the gen 4 vehicles and used larger capacity pans. The g8 and 5th Gen Camaro take 8.8 qts of oil crazy!!
This is awesome, the exact swap I’m wanting to do to my Bandit II except LS. I keep getting called stupid for wanting the 6 speed and was told the whole trans tunnel had to come out. So I think I’m going back to this as my trans solution. Can’t wait to see more for stuff like the kickdown cable and trans controller and wiring
I'm thinking about putting a 6-speed straight-cut dog box transmission in mine. It'll have to be custom made, but I'm hoping because it's using straight-cut gears, it'll work out smaller than stock and thus fit up inside the stock transmission tunnel. Can't wait to hear those gears scream...
I used the hooker blackheart heavy dudty clamshell engine mount kit (Part#VK090155) for my 4th gen firebird to Gen V Lt1 swap. I used a umi ls cross member and these mounts put the motor in the stock LS location.
We done a 8 speed swap long ago on a 4th gen camaro, what sucked was the entire tunnel was cut and re sheet metal, it was a race car so fitment wasn't nothing had room all the way around. Wanted to build a drop in kit for f bodies but covid and yeah....
I cant W A I T to see this car finished, I have a 1985 Firebird Trans AM myself, do you also know where I could find the interior trim panels like the door panel pieces and the trunk trim panels (missing half of it)
SO MATT, now you will have to work on a compatible shifter and getting a 12 bolt in the Trans AM, because that OEM rear will not last behind the LS1 and 6l80 trans.
@LsxMatt, how do you feel about the Holley Terminator X? My buddy's doing a swap in a Chevy II. He ordered the Terminator X and really likes it. I'm wanting to swap my 92 TA convertible.
Hey Matt, I also have a 3rd gen I shoved a 6l80e trans into a couple years ago. I went with an aftermarket trans controller from zero gravity performance mated to a 5.3l turbo ls engine with holley efi. I haven't figured out how to get my trans to shift yet... have you? Maybe a colab of some sorts is in order?😊
Hey Matt. If you ever decide to move to Florida I would greatly appreciate it if you moved right next door to me. You are exactly the kind of neighbor I need
Have any regrets going with the 6l80. I already have one I’m thinking of putting in a 89 iroc but I’m On the fence as far as fitment, reliability of the 6l80. And the cost of rebuilding one as opposed to a 4l80/60. Also controlling it. Was thinking the new holley term max but the controller for the 6l80 is like 500 bucks
I'm wanting to do the same transmission in my 85 TA. Have you had any issues with the transmission hitting while driving or accelerating? Can i get my ecm (6.0 4l60e) to work with the 6l80e computer? Thanks for all you do to help us.
Hey Matt, I am sure by now, You are probably done with your newer Trans Am build? but, I am wondering if gasoline would clean off the oxidation from the aluminum engine & trans? I was living out of city limits, house paid off, was building an addition onto the house, had it framed, roofed, & wrapped & yeah, That all came to an end, I was about to build a garage! I envy your 3rd gens & hopefully one day, I can get one that is pretty clean hopefully! I realize that you probably are not interested in pouring gas all over your engine & trans but, If I remember correctly, Gas cleans aluminum pretty easily... maybe a bit of elbow grease with the gas. My brother lucked into a 1973 sbc 400 with the 4.125 bore & it was bored .030 over, running a stroker kit-crank & custom rods, Amber lightweight pistons bringing it to 11/1 compression! I cannot remember the cam but, aftermarket 2.02 intake 160 exhaust heads, new valve body & shift kit on a Th400 sitting in a 79 Z-28. 373 GEARS=1/8 CHAMP!!! I've always wanted a 3rd gen!!! I want to build up another 73-400 (4.125 bore) but, now blueprint sells 4.125 bore 350 & 400 but, still need the custom stoker crank, custom rods, lightweight pistons, cam & etc... Hopefully one day!!! Gota start with getting the car though! Best of luck to ya!!!
@@GMLSX true point. I actually was wondering if modifying that ridge up there would have compromised its strength. Also, couldn’t the engine/trans just have been dropped an extra 1/2”? Would actually help improve center of gravity too.
Hey man was in the garage working on some things and something I haven’t figured out yet came to mind, what are we going to use for the dip stick? The factory one mine came with sure won’t work I thought about trying to bend it or cut and tack weld it🤷🏽♂️ what’s your plan? Obviously your level of transmission knowledge is pretty high so I figured I’d ask you before I start spending mores trail and error money
I have my eye on this: www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-xtd-36l80fm Not sure how I’ll run it, but it’s flexible so I think it will work. Plan b is to try to find a short stick that stays under the car.
As usual I have no plans to upgrade the rear until it blows, but I would like to at least swap some 4th gen 3.42’s into it. I think it has a 2.73 now which is probably good for the 6l80e and traction.
@@lsXmatt cool. Gotcha. That’s what I was thinking... getting traction with a steep first gear like that coupled with a steep rear gear would be pretty tough. Cool
idk if u will see this but i hope u will because as u said its hard to find documented work of this swap is the trans tunnel pretty much the same for a 84 camaro like would it be almost the same work? and does it need the mounting position of the lt or could i recreate this with a ls? thanks in advance hope u see this
@@lsXmatt so it would be easier to get a lt motor for the swap i would assume? i was thinking ls as i was looking for a 6.0 such as a ly6 or so to get. if i would need a lt i could do it i just know more about ls as it stands and if i get lt will be wanting to go to dual port as to make everything last longer. sorry for such long comments really interested in the build as i wanna swap my 84 any knowledge u could share would be a huge help
Was curious as to what is going to control your transmission I was lucky guy gave me a 6l90e I want to put behind 6.0 in my 04 silverado that has 5.3 and 4l60e
@@lsXmatt ah ok I have the 04 pcm that will run my 07 lq4 but not the trans I did find a controller that will adapt from zerogravity a little expensive but I guess in the long run extra gears and gas mileage will benefit
Ok ok. Something that’s been on my mind and since I seen you did this......I’m like ok can you slap a 6spd transmission in the 2004 Tahoe?!?! Huh huh!?? Just curious. And if so what all would you have to do to make it work?
@@lsXmatt ahh ok. See I wasn’t sure if it was possible or not. Thought it would be nice to have a little more gears you know. Was going to sell this for the newer Tahoe but I like my z71.
Matt, Matt, Matt; stoppppppp because I’m jealous.
I hope your channel absolutely explodes one day you deserve it Matt hands down the best third gen related channel on youtube. Excellent sir
Thanks for the support
instablaster...
The T/A is the reason I subscribed to you channel. Keep it up !
Someone finally made it 🙏🏾. I always wondered if the 6 speed would fit a third gen or even the 8 speed. Plan on doing a swap next year with a l92 and 6l80. Great video!
A few people have done it but I haven’t seen much documented video wise. I’m glad it fit without any cutting!
@@lsXmatt is that a bmr tubular ls crossmember? If you cant use it I will buy it from you. I need on for my twin turbo ls build. Also is it for stock steering setup? I REALLY REALLY NEED that crossmember if it is.
What years exactly (if you know) this trans came out of? I know you mentioned 2012 2013. Tahoe.
@@lsXmatt I wanted to do it to my 06 gto. I am not sure anyone tried it on that car.
The 8-speed is tidier than the 6-speed and should be easier to install.
Wow Congrats! Fingers crossed, lov'en this, now you are making me re-think my build. That 6 speed will be fantastic. Sad you couldn't get that BMR unit to work. Thanks.
Wow. Cool! Having flashbacks of my 6-speed swap back in 1999. haha. This is a bit more work for sure. Love your channel!
Great video. Can't wait to see the cleaned up version and final install.
Looking GOOD !!! Can't wait for the next video!!
I bought that same transmission jack from when you made that Tahoe video. Used it at home since then thx Matt 👍
Enjoying this build. And the choice of music 🎵 is really good. It's modern yet 80s sounding. 👍
This guy just lifted the trans and placed it directly on while on his back like a nothing @ 9:52 holy shiznit, i think i ate to many edibles
For real 😭😂
It’s empty. No gears inside
That was a great video. It's good to see there are mounts that will work with the stock K-member and a stock location AC mount on a 5th(?) Gen small block. Looking forward to how you're going to tackle fueling.
I really went this far back a year to see how you did this I’m in the verge of starting to buy my Irene’s I need
Good deal!!! I removed the old hard fuel lines so if you use a bypass fuel pressure regulator you won’t need a return so I use a push lock -8 line. Glad to see you found those swap mounts they work great for me
Great video man. Gen5 swap is a whole new set of problems. Man I wish my video edits were on your level. 💯
I called it Matt dropped the transmission ( check out the UA-cam community post)
Thank you sir for educating us!
Awesome! Awesome! Progress.... loving this build. 3rd GEN all the way...!!! Oh! I like how you left the blooper in the video. Now that’s real.
You picked that transmission up and I went Holy crap. Lol
I thought the transmission was going to hit that jack stand when it fell. Love the project(s)!
I was 6 yrs old when this car was out and my older bro had one this same color. It was a very cool car then and still now, glad to see these classics on the road I really never thought about it at that age but these things were everywhere seen all versions of them.
She's gonna be a beast! Nice vid!
That sucked that you had to go through that, it was great that you were able to find a solution. I am probably looking at the SBC to 2014-up LT LT1 Engine Swap Bracket Conversion for Motor Mounts.
first time ever seeing your channel. loving the chopped flag.
I was surprised how easily the L76 6L80e combo fit in our 87 Formula project. The internet would have you believe you have to cut the tunnel out! It’s interesting how gm raised the crank centerline in the gen 4 vehicles and used larger capacity pans. The g8 and 5th Gen Camaro take 8.8 qts of oil crazy!!
This is awesome, the exact swap I’m wanting to do to my Bandit II except LS. I keep getting called stupid for wanting the 6 speed and was told the whole trans tunnel had to come out. So I think I’m going back to this as my trans solution. Can’t wait to see more for stuff like the kickdown cable and trans controller and wiring
if its a third gen the trans tunnel doesnt have to come out.check thirdgen.org
cool sweat shirt late 2ng gen Z cant wait to see this build
This is going to be great.
I like that you have an air-conditioned garage nice
Can't wait to see the trans am finished
We need to start a go fund me to get Matt some heat in the garage.
I'm down for that?
How is this project coming along? Haven’t seen anything posted lately. I enjoyed watching this build.
Awesome video. I've got a 89 TA same colors as yours
I'm thinking about putting a 6-speed straight-cut dog box transmission in mine. It'll have to be custom made, but I'm hoping because it's using straight-cut gears, it'll work out smaller than stock and thus fit up inside the stock transmission tunnel. Can't wait to hear those gears scream...
You always do great videos. Can I hav the tubular cross member for my 92 camaro build?
Holy shifts!
Quit making me what to take my daily's drive train (2014 silverado 5.3) and shove it into my ls swapped third gen 🤣 jk love this project, man!!
Don't forget to adjust for the transmission pan.
It's a deep pan gonna have affect on your overall ground clearance 💪💊
Hi matt love your videos. How much hp you think the itc billet mounts are good for? Would you trust them on your camaro with the lsa swap?
I wonder if that transmission swap could be done to a 2002 chevy suburban 1500 🤔
Hahaha I hear ya man. 4l60 life is rough.
Well done, Matt! I need sooo much more of this build in my life! Keep up the great work. Cant wait to see the progress continue to unfold.
I used the hooker blackheart heavy dudty clamshell engine mount kit (Part#VK090155) for my 4th gen firebird to Gen V Lt1 swap. I used a umi ls cross member and these mounts put the motor in the stock LS location.
I recently was given a stock 1986 trans am, has to be fixed up but its a really nice car, its a shame they don't make pontiac cars anymore
Love it!
We done a 8 speed swap long ago on a 4th gen camaro, what sucked was the entire tunnel was cut and re sheet metal, it was a race car so fitment wasn't nothing had room all the way around.
Wanted to build a drop in kit for f bodies but covid and yeah....
My 85 I just bought is a automatic. It has a 350. To go to a 5 speed manual is definitely a goal. What were your costs to make the transition?
Amazing so umm when can I send my car to you? I bought my 3rd 3rd gen camaro I want 1 of them to be ls/lt swapped🤗
I cant W A I T to see this car finished, I have a 1985 Firebird Trans AM myself, do you also know where I could find the interior trim panels like the door panel pieces and the trunk trim panels (missing half of it)
You should sand blast and paint the rusty cross member before instal!
Ive always wanted the tci auto for my car but thats a 7k price tag and after owning a 2011 silverado ive thought about trying to find a 6l80e
When you just lifted and walked away from the bench😮. While you have the engine out just get the DOD delete out of the way.
SO MATT, now you will have to work on a compatible shifter and getting a 12 bolt in the Trans AM, because that OEM rear will not last behind the LS1 and 6l80 trans.
nice build buddy is there any name about sound tracks used on this video?
Smoothe 👍💪
Hey Matt it's coming out amazing! For wiring... Are you going with PSi conversion kit?
Most likely!
@LsxMatt, how do you feel about the Holley Terminator X? My buddy's doing a swap in a Chevy II. He ordered the Terminator X and really likes it. I'm wanting to swap my 92 TA convertible.
10:47 who hasn't been there lol..
Hey Matt, I also have a 3rd gen I shoved a 6l80e trans into a couple years ago. I went with an aftermarket trans controller from zero gravity performance mated to a 5.3l turbo ls engine with holley efi. I haven't figured out how to get my trans to shift yet... have you? Maybe a colab of some sorts is in order?😊
Hey Matt. If you ever decide to move to Florida I would greatly appreciate it if you moved right next door to me. You are exactly the kind of neighbor I need
Same if you move to Saskatchewan Canada 😂
So the 06's 4l80 are just bigger to swap? Thank you for these videos
Your a boss!!!
This is awesome. I wish I could do something like this. I'm sure the payoff is huge.
Have any regrets going with the 6l80. I already have one I’m thinking of putting in a 89 iroc but I’m
On the fence as far as fitment, reliability of the 6l80. And the cost of rebuilding one as opposed to a 4l80/60. Also controlling it. Was thinking the new holley term max but the controller for the 6l80 is like 500 bucks
I could have sworn someone made mounts that could slide around for the ls engines.
I wanna work for you man. I'll bring both my 3rd gens lol
Nice..... I have same color,....87TA firebird 👋
Heck yea, cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍
I'm wanting to do the same transmission in my 85 TA. Have you had any issues with the transmission hitting while driving or accelerating? Can i get my ecm (6.0 4l60e) to work with the 6l80e computer? Thanks for all you do to help us.
I need your help lsx matt on my crossmember setup on an 87 iroc 4l60e what can i use plus torque arm.
Hey Matt, I am sure by now, You are probably done with your newer Trans Am build? but, I am wondering if gasoline would clean off the oxidation from the aluminum engine & trans? I was living out of city limits, house paid off, was building an addition onto the house, had it framed, roofed, & wrapped & yeah, That all came to an end, I was about to build a garage! I envy your 3rd gens & hopefully one day, I can get one that is pretty clean hopefully! I realize that you probably are not interested in pouring gas all over your engine & trans but, If I remember correctly, Gas cleans aluminum pretty easily... maybe a bit of elbow grease with the gas. My brother lucked into a 1973 sbc 400 with the 4.125 bore & it was bored .030 over, running a stroker kit-crank & custom rods, Amber lightweight pistons bringing it to 11/1 compression! I cannot remember the cam but, aftermarket 2.02 intake 160 exhaust heads, new valve body & shift kit on a Th400 sitting in a 79 Z-28. 373 GEARS=1/8 CHAMP!!! I've always wanted a 3rd gen!!! I want to build up another 73-400 (4.125 bore) but, now blueprint sells 4.125 bore 350 & 400 but, still need the custom stoker crank, custom rods, lightweight pistons, cam & etc... Hopefully one day!!! Gota start with getting the car though! Best of luck to ya!!!
Nice
I hear the major failure with the 6L80E is the stock torque converter. It is recommended to upgrade to a Billet
Are you using your stock brake pedal or the newer brake pedal for the tcc unlocking
Hey Matt would you be interested in getting rid of the cross member you didn’t end up using?
I have a L83 I’m trying to find a swap kit to go in my 1970 cutlass
Matt you need a heater in the garage :)
I have one I just shut it down while recording so it doesn’t drown out the audio.
Would that tubular k member work with the LM7 5.3 in a 3rd gen?
Do you have link for shifter cable or linkage and bracket??
What do i need to replace my 700r4 with a 4l60e?
Nice! Good job! What ECM are you going to run?
Stock ecm!
@@lsXmatt OK! Cool!
Post the next videoooo, I’m tryna do the same to my 4th gen camaro
Same bro
Wow 6 speed auto fit in a 3rd gen. Previously, they said you needed to cut the trans tunnel and all that... You proved them wrong!
He kind of cut the 6 speed instead. Just saying.
@@GMLSX true point. I actually was wondering if modifying that ridge up there would have compromised its strength. Also, couldn’t the engine/trans just have been dropped an extra 1/2”? Would actually help improve center of gravity too.
Wowy
Will the 6l80 bolt right up to a Gen 1 LS?
Hey man was in the garage working on some things and something I haven’t figured out yet came to mind, what are we going to use for the dip stick? The factory one mine came with sure won’t work I thought about trying to bend it or cut and tack weld it🤷🏽♂️ what’s your plan? Obviously your level of transmission knowledge is pretty high so I figured I’d ask you before I start spending mores trail and error money
I have my eye on this: www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-xtd-36l80fm
Not sure how I’ll run it, but it’s flexible so I think it will work. Plan b is to try to find a short stick that stays under the car.
@@lsXmatt ok thanks... I’ll try to bend it first I guess... let you know if it works out for me soon...
@@lsXmatt ha I read your reply wrong🤦🏽♂️ but thanks that will work perfectly...
I have 1000 questions , can u help , i vd decided to do mine since the swap guy sounds like chicken running away from this challenge
Man I had a 1989 the same color car only had 52000 miles on it
Cut that fire wall
Does something like that require a lot of tuning for the trans
You have a welder, make your own motor mounts and use the tubular k member
I considered it but I’d rather use it my Camaro.
What headers to use??
What color blue is that I like it
hey matt. thats a pretty serious 1st gear ratio in that trans! so, what rear gear ratio are you planning on putting in the rear axle?
As usual I have no plans to upgrade the rear until it blows, but I would like to at least swap some 4th gen 3.42’s into it. I think it has a 2.73 now which is probably good for the 6l80e and traction.
@@lsXmatt cool. Gotcha. That’s what I was thinking... getting traction with a steep first gear like that coupled with a steep rear gear would be pretty tough. Cool
Wanna sell the K member setup? I have a 3rd gen with an LS.
Can this be done for Tahiti?
How is it that light???
idk if u will see this but i hope u will because as u said its hard to find documented work of this swap is the trans tunnel pretty much the same for a 84 camaro like would it be almost the same work? and does it need the mounting position of the lt or could i recreate this with a ls? thanks in advance hope u see this
You would need to mount it in the same position as the lt being the bell housing is so large.
@@lsXmatt so it would be easier to get a lt motor for the swap i would assume? i was thinking ls as i was looking for a 6.0 such as a ly6 or so to get. if i would need a lt i could do it i just know more about ls as it stands and if i get lt will be wanting to go to dual port as to make everything last longer. sorry for such long comments really interested in the build as i wanna swap my 84 any knowledge u could share would be a huge help
6:37 me after repeatedly deadlifting a 4t65e; :o
Was curious as to what is going to control your transmission I was lucky guy gave me a 6l90e I want to put behind 6.0 in my 04 silverado that has 5.3 and 4l60e
Using the factory pcm and tcm
@@lsXmatt ah ok I have the 04 pcm that will run my 07 lq4 but not the trans I did find a controller that will adapt from zerogravity a little expensive but I guess in the long run extra gears and gas mileage will benefit
clam shell? what you mean?
Ok ok. Something that’s been on my mind and since I seen you did this......I’m like ok can you slap a 6spd transmission in the 2004 Tahoe?!?! Huh huh!?? Just curious. And if so what all would you have to do to make it work?
Not as far as I know. The 6l80e has a tcm that needs to talk to the ecu, so I doubt it will work without serious modifications.
@@lsXmatt ahh ok. See I wasn’t sure if it was possible or not. Thought it would be nice to have a little more gears you know. Was going to sell this for the newer Tahoe but I like my z71.