Some of THE BEST fun I have had in MSFS! | Got Friends Discus 2C | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we take a preview look at the Got Friends Discus 2C for Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We'll be putting the aircraft through its paces on a beautiful flight from the the Got Friends Gliding Club (GTFD), over towards Zell Am See (LOWZ).
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Ігри
Beautiful flight and well informative! Love your knowledge and insight during your quick flight! Thank you for sharing the Discus-2c and for your support to our small team. It means a lot to every one of us! :)
C'mon the guy knows sfa about gliding - get real instead of blowing spoke up his ignorant arse.
Cheers Jon! Really glad you enjoyed the flight and indeed the beautiful scenery.
Thank you very much to yourself and the team for all of your hard work! The Discus really is a complete joy in the sim and something you can all be very proud of : )
All the best!
Saw the sale last week and decided to pull the trigger without even trying the free version before and I was blown away, you did a fantastic job there. Agree with ITB Sims, worth every penny! Altius Volantis! (got the R3 as well)
If you enjoy flying around the Alps (and mountainous areas in general), make sure to grab the freeware 'Project Lifts'. It adds ski lifts globally in the correct locations. Makes it a lot nicer to fly in the mountains. Pick up 'Powerlines and Solar panels' as well.
Additionally; there are already thermals in the base sim with live weather. It's not perfect yet (they're generally pretty small in size), but I've done some 2 to 2.5 hour flights in the Discus on live weather recently.
Thanks very much for the heads up Mort! Some great sounding addons there; I had no idea they even existed - I shall definitely have to check them out. . .
Yes, I gather the environmental modelling has come along further than I realised. That's great to hear and I'm looking forward to seeing it refined further.
Cheers again and all the best! : )
Beautiful video, and MSFS does indeed capture the Alps quite nicely! I often re-trace my hikes and bike tours in the area in MSFS, using a small taildragger or a helicopter, and I can find most of the tracks visually. I have not spent much gliding in the sim yet, but I always find it a pretty amazing experience.
Thanks very much Volker, though I think MSFS did most of the work on this one haha! A beautiful part of the world, must be a joy to go hiking in etc : D
This was my first glider outing in the sim, but I shall definitely be back for more!
All the best : )
Managed to glide from that glider club in the mountains, down to Salzburg, and then over to Munich was a good fun trip just ambling along. I could have kept going, but had to go eat.
Haha, nice ML - that’s quite a trip! You’ll have to pack some sandwiches next time : P
Cheers and all the best : )
I absolutely love the Got Friends glider. This Discus 2 is actually also a great "touring" glider with a fairly decent glide rate. I'd been using it in the Himalayas, and the combination of extreme altitude and wild updrafts mean you can get a LONG way with this. Although the MSFS weather convection system is currently a work in progress, you really can find life if you know where to look. Thermals do exist in the sim currently, they are just not realistically behaved in that they are smaller, less powerful, and less stable than they should be, and you can't spot them with clouds so they are hard to find. On the other hand, ridge lift and mountain wave effects, and convection over wooded areas are all pretty well simulated, and you can really feel the terrain under you in this glider. I had been using the freeware version, and was looking forward to buying the payware, but I'm headed out for a major fieldwork expedition, so I will not be flying in the sim for quite some time. Still glad to see it develop through your videos and reviews!
Cheers Austin. I haven’t really been keeping up to date with where the sim is at, in terms of this sort of thing. Great to hear that Asobo are already quite far along with where they need to be. The MSFS environmental modelling is already a cut above the competition, so it’ll be great to see it refined further.
Best of luck with the fieldwork! Hope you have fun : )
I've wondered how realistic the weather/thermals simulations are, so thanks for your input.
As a pilot, I absolutely agree. This and the 310 by Milviz are my favorite things to fly, both are fun and super realistic. I used to fly gliders and this is one of the best and most realistic experiences that you can have in MSFS.
Glad you're enjoying them both QG, the Discus and the 310 are indeed both excellent addons! Whilst there are other, better glider sims out there, I think the whole MSFS package goes to create quite a "special" experience with the Discus.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Looks amazing !!! Love the video, I'm going to do gliding lessons in September, so excited.
Cheers Josh, glad you enjoyed the video! Got friends have indeed done a cracking job with the Discus.
That's awesome, I'm sure you'll have a brilliant time! As I mentioned during the video, gliding really is such a lovely way to fly and a great way to learn also. Best of luck with it all - let me know how you get on! : )
Fantastic video and a magnificent flight, thanks for sharing this! Thoroughly enjoyed it. Love the touches with music as well.
Thank *you* very much to yourself and everyone at the Got Friends team! An absolutely cracking effort with the Discus and one of the most enjoyable addons I have come across in the sim to date : )
Cheers and all the best!
Great stuff. When I saw the thumbnail, I thought I'd just watch and like, but may well pick it up as looks like a lovely way to enjoy what is still the best part of this SIM - the visuals.
Haha, glad I managed to potentially sway you on the Idea Stwutter ; )
Certainly worth giving the freeware version a go, see whether or not it’s for you. Gliding is indeed a lovely option for enjoying the beauty of MSFS!
Happy flying : )
What an awesome review! You’ve made me want this now looks like a great change to regular GA and airliner sims
Did you use any mods or add ons for this scenery? It looks stunning!
Thanks very much James, I'm really glad you enjoyed it!
I do hope it inspired you to pick up the Discus then, even if it was the freeware version. Gliding is such an awesome way to experience MSFS and indeed a lovely way to fly in the real world.
In terms of addons; I used a freeware scenery for Zell am See (available over on Flightsim.to) and I use the Bijan 4 Season pack. I think the main thing here though, was the weather / lighting combination.
I hope that clarifies things a little. Cheers and happy flying! : )
This is a fabulous aircraft and I love the premium version. A great feeling of achievement finding thermals and keeping the beast in the air. I often fly from Yorkshire gliding club. The motorised assist version is awesome. Great video thank you.
Cheers Mav, glad you enjoyed the video!
The Discus is indeed a lovely effort and a joy to fly. Someone else mentioned the Yorkshire Gliding Club as well - I shall have to check it out : )
Cheers!
So glad that you aren't confining yourself to windmills and fans but are prepared to showcase some of the wonderful products out there on the periphery so to speak - yet another excellent video!
I enjoy pretty much all things that fly John; if someone gives me a hot air balloon, I’ll certainly give it a go haha! I’m glad you enjoyed the variety though - a wonderful product as you say : )
Thanks again and all the best!
Yes as usual great video, fun, informative, seams as you've flown this glider 1k times! Thanks Mr Ted
Thanks Phill! I’m glad you enjoyed it; one of the most enjoyable outings I’ve had in MSFS to date I must say!
I hope you’re keeping well. All the best : )
Thanks for yet another great video! If you click the upper of the two left buttons on LX-NAV screen you can see your variometer trace, it makes it much easier to gain lift.
Thanks very much Erim, both for the kind words and the tip! Much appreciated : )
I always wait for your review before considering a msfs purchase. Keep them coming!
Thanks Twifosp1, very kind of you to say!
Alas I don’t have the time to cover every MSFS release, but I try to cover the more significant releases / products I’m interested in where I can. I’m certainly really glad I had the chance to try the Discus - a cracking little effort from the Got Friends team overall!
Cheers and all the best : )
Great to see such high quality gliders coming into the sim. Certainly a great way to enjoy the scenery in MSFS.
Isn’t it Terry! I was expecting a so-so experience (not through any fault on Got Friends part), but the Discus was such an amazing and pleasant surprise! I’m really not exaggerating when I say this was one of the most enjoyable experiences I’ve had in the sim to date.
A brilliant way to enjoy MSFS and something I certainly plan on spending some more time with going forward : )
Cheers!
Great flight, great video, great change of pace. Thanks enormously for highlighting the sail plane, going to pick the payware version asap. Soaring is _real_ flying, my favorite way to spend time in the air. Really miss it, but this is definitely the next best thing!
Thanks very much, Art!
Yes, I really enjoyed this one also. It’s been a long time since I’ve done any real-world gliding but, it’s such a majestic way to fly and the sim does manage to capture that, at least a little bit. As with all thing Got Friends, the Discus is a joy!
Happy flying and all the best : )
The Discus is a cracker. Thanks for sharing your flight.
I’m not biased towards soaring at all 😉😁 but if anyone is on the fence, do give it a go. The freeware gliders are fantastic.
Haha, no bias at all I'm sure! : P
As you say though, a cracking addon and a lovely way to enjoy the sim!
Happy soaring : )
I love the Alps, thanks for this! It was so relaxing 🏞
Cheers Davide! Yes, an absolutely beautiful part of the world and fortuitously it's also one of the better modeled regions in the sim. Every minute of this flight was brilliant I have to say - I'm glad you enjoyed it as well : )
All the best!
Great review as always. Got the payware version to support that fantastic development team👍👍👍
Take care and thank you.
Thanks very much sir and brilliant to hear! I intend to do the same, once the Discus hits the Marketplace - Got Friends thoroughly deserve it! : )
Excellent video, gliders really do show off the sim very well, and given you just saw default scenery here, no photogrammetry but just default scenery it looked spectacular. Very nice landing too!
Thanks very much David, glad you enjoyed it!
Gliders are indeed a brilliant way of experiencing MSFS and as you say, quite simply stunning scenery given that it’s default. I think this has to be one of the best regions in the sim.
Cheers re the landing - much appreciated ; )
All the best!
So peaceful up there....best game after a heavy shift on work, thx for the flight😊
Absolutely Eric! These sorts of flights are a great way to relax / wind down. My pleasure!
Happy flying and all the best : )
I've got the premium version as I couldn't resist it: a bargain if you ask me. A glider that works in MSFS at last. I've just completed a cross Scotland run down the Caledonian Canal route from Inverness to North Connel using thermals and ridge lift and it actually works! The weather presets seem to work well and can only get better as Asobo integrate gliding into the sim. Highly recommended by me if gliding appeals to anyone.
I'm looking forward to seeing your review of the premium version.
Cheers Steve!
I saw someone else working their way through a similar route over on Reddit - was that you by any chance haha? I’m sure it’d be a stunning flight - Scotland is a really beautiful part of the world.
I decided to wait on the Premium version until it comes out on the Marketplace, but I’m very much looking forward to giving it a go when the time comes!
All the best : )
If powered flight is like this amazing human experience then gliding like this is probably the most serene way to experience flight possible. No engine noise, no thrust, just you and the air. Closest to being a bird probably! Short of flapping the wings.
That's exactly how it is - I used to fly ASK-21s from West Malling airfield in Kent, UK in the early/mid-'80s while in the ATC, we would initially get a winch to get us up in the air and then proceed over industrial parks around Maidstone to grab some thermals that would get us up and over Blue Bell Hill where we would then proceed to the huge car park of GEC Avionics to get some altitude and then fly all over Kent in peace and tranquillity for hours and hours. Gliding is a sublime and fantastic experience that I recommend anyone interested in flying give a go if possible, you won't regret it.
Sounds like a dream Guy! My gliding experiences were never blessed with quite as much lift as yours haha. We'd usually wallow around the local area looking for some mediocre thermals, before heading home again XD
Still enjoyed every second of it though and luckily our launches were all aerotow, so you could pick and choose how much sky you wanted to fall slowly out of : P
All the best! : )
I think so George! I guess hang gliding is probably about as close as one can get to being a bird, but I think gliding is probably a little bit more serene / comfortable overall haha.
All the best! : )
Can confirm, it's an awesome aircraft and it just floats forever!
Ah well I'm glad you're enjoying it as well AC! Happy flying : )
Great video, really enjoyable and relaxing :))
Thanks very much Ivan! Really glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
Tried this last night, really good stuff
Really glad you enjoyed the Discus CP! It is indeed a cracking addon and a special kind of experience in the sim : )
Happy soaring!
I got to say this was probably the most scenic type of review you made thus far, Both the music and the scenery was enough to get me a little teary. And speaking of Got Friends I'm hoping to see you review their Stemme S12-G as well as the recently teased PZL 104 Wilga 35A.
Well thanks ST! I would probably have to agree with you haha, although I think the sim did most of the work ; )
I saw Got Friends had just announced the Wilga - definitely one I am keen to take a look at when it arrives (I shall have to look into the Stemme; it's not an addon that had made it onto my radar)!
All the best : )
Man what a lovely thing! I think I need to pick this one up in the premium version.
Looking forward to see what they can achieve when the gliders are officialy supported.
As always thank you for the review!
The Discus is indeed lovely! Not quite bush flying here, but equally awesome in its own way I would say.
As you say, it will be interesting to see what Asobo manages to achieve with SU10 : )
Cheers bud!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Honestly I quite enjoy gliding.
It's just super chill and definitely still on my bucket list to do in real life!
Its the only glider that works properly for me and its so much fun
What a great job these guys did at Just Flight. Beautifully done! I am definitely going to pick this up and skip the freeware version since you covered this amazingly well. Since I live in the Swiss alps, this will be a breeze. I additionally learned to fly in the Rocky Mountains so this a good fitting glove so to speak. Thanks again for the amazing presentation. Tschüss and a big thumbs up 👍
Thanks very much FHG! Glad you enjoyed the flight.
I’m sure you’ve probably realised by now, but just so you are aware, it’s actually “Got Friends” who created the Discus and not Just Flight (although perhaps it’s available on the JF website?). I’m glad you’re thinking of picking up the Premium version though, I think Got Friends definitely deserve the support!
Lucky you, living in the Swiss Alps! I can honestly say it’s one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been to. I’ve been a couple of times and it feels like the place breathes some life back into you haha.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I tried purchasing w my cc and it wouldn’t accept it. I made purchases before and after with no problems. Their site must be only accepting usa cards…I guess! I’ll try another time or wait for MSFS to host it. Cheers
Hmm, that’s very strange; sorry to hear you’ve had no luck. Personally I’m actually doing the same and waiting for the Discus to be released on the in-sim Marketplace, just to try and avoid having yet another account for payware addons haha. Hopefully the wait shouldn’t be too much longer. . .
Cheers!
Awesome flight and video! The Discus is pretty awesome, those Got Friends chaps are putting out some quite good stuff for decent prices. Really looking forward to their Wilga they have in the works.
I wasn't really into gliding in the older sims, mostly because outside of dedicated gliding sims its always been a bit meh, but when some decent looking freeware gliders (including the earlier versions of this) started coming out and armed with Kinetic Assistant I decided to give it another go. Had a few problems at first as I don't really know much about gliding but I kept at it and have been having a blast.
As others have probably mentioned there are thermals in the base sim and with ridge lift I've managed some pretty decent and long flights in the Premium Discus. Kinetic Assistant also helps a lot as well with its thermal hotspot injection and visualisation for that extra bit of lift. Looking forward to the updates later in the year with the promised improvements to soaring in the game as gliding really is quite nice as you've demonstrated quite admirably in this video.
Also you really should look into the controller profile system. Set up a glider profile and assign the speed brake to your throttle. It's a bit annoying the game can't automatically switch profiles with specific planes like you can with X-Plane, I'm always forgetting to do so and have to switch around after I start the flight but that's only a minor nuisance.
Cheers.
Thanks very much Megadyptes, I'm glad you enjoyed it (as did I on this one haha)! I saw Got Friends announced the Wilga, very much looking forward to that one myself also.
Likewise I was never a massive gliding fan in older sims, but I think in my case it was the scenery putting me off as much as anything. Always felt a bit pointless to be idling around with nothing to look at haha. MSFS certainly addresses that shortfall! I was quite surprised with just how much implementation there already is in terms of thermals etc. I didn't realise just how much the sim had already come on in that regard and indeed it will be interesting to see how she behaves post SU10.
I maaay look into the controller profile thing, but that just sounds like an accident waiting to happen - finish a 20 min recording of me setting up a 737 for departure, only to find out that my engineer has wired my throttle cables to my speeedbrake lever XD
Cheers! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yeah I've had a few incidents when it comes to profiles but usually nothing too bad, it'll be something like 'why on earth can't I lean my mixture' when I forgot to switch from my twin jet or glider profiles. I do wish I had more slider controls though. Occasionally I do look at the various throttles out there with levers coming out of everything but I don't really have room for them. Or the money for that matter!
Nice video! I love the Discus! One recommendation is to assign the spoilers to the speed brake axis. On approach to landing I find it a good technique to put out half spoilers with the aim to land without having to touch them. You can then use the spoiler lever to fine tune your glide path…as needed.. Too high, add more spoiler, too low, reduce the amount of spoiler. You can fly a very precise descent to the runway this way.
Cheers Paul and thanks for the pointer!
I ordinarily don’t bother assigning my spoilers to an axis (I don’t have enough hardware axis to do so haha), as I figure if they’re on a button, they’re there if I need them in a hurry and if I need to finesse things I can always click and drag. Your comment did get me thinking though and I suddenly remembered that you can in fact assign the same axis / key press etc to multiple different commands within MSFS. I think I’ll assign my spoilers to the same axis I usually use for prop pitch; other than the Mooney, there shouldn’t be too many aircraft where that causes a conflict haha.
Thanks again! : )
Another option for the spoilers is to set up a separate glider control profile for your hardware throttle and assign spoilers to the hardware throttle axis. As Paul says, it’s then used exactly as you would a throttle in a powered aircraft when on approach. Try to set up your approach aiming for half spoilers and then adjust using the good old “string around your shoulders” exactly as you would a powered aircraft. Just don’t try going around 🤣
The only downside to separate control profiles is having to remember to select them but it soon becomes second nature. And can always be done in flight anyway.
Nothing beats gliding. Beautiful Discus.
It is indeed a lovely way to fly Paul! A pretty brilliant way of enjoying the MSFS scenery also : )
All the best!
This is great. Only thing is my first flight the tow plane flew right into the side of mountain and took me with him.
Haha yeah, that sounds about right Robi XD
If you’re using Kinetic Assistant, the default tow aircraft will just fly a set profile and that can indeed lead to some interesting situations. It is possible to record your own profiles though (you fly them yourself ahead of time) and that way you can be towed in exactly the manner you would like, accounting for the local terrain etc (which is what I did here).
I hope that helps a little. Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations What a cool feature! I'll look into it, thanks.
What a nice video. I have very limited experience with real-life gliders (powered airplane pilot here), flew gliders only a couple of times with fiends. The one thing that struck me as wildly unexpected as the massive control of glide path with airbrakes that one can have in these things. Airbrakes out, you have the glide angle not much better than a Piper Cherokee. If you get low on the approach, close the airbrakes and you feel the instant push forward and up (just as if adding power in an airplane), it feels like you'll land in another county. And the thermals. Fly for very long times, without the cost of burning fuel. Gliders are as fun as it gets.
Thanks very much CT! I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight and that the video brought back some nice memories.
Haha, I’m completely with you on that one: The first time I experienced someone using the airbrakes in a glider, it felt to me as though we were coming down in a lift / elevator! XD
Like you, I’ve only done a little bit of gliding and not for a long time but, it is a truly wonderful way to fly.
Happy flying and all the best : )
Great video! I have never done gliding in the real world, apart from a short descent once when my Harrier’s engine had to be shut down and restarted 😧 I have been waiting for a glider in the sim and I will definitely check this out.
Thanks Peter! Haha, hmmm. . . I'm not sure you'd get quite the same level of serenity from such an experience. . .
Sounds like the classic; "have you tried turning it off then on again?" XD
The Discus is excellent, well worth checking out! Happy flying : )
Love the discus, definitely worth the 14,99
Absolutely Weltvonoben, the Discus is brilliant value and I’m glad you’re enjoying it!
Happy flying and all the best : )
"So quiet and serene" BEEP BEEP BEEP BOOP BOOP BOOOOOOO BEEBEEBEEBEEEEEBEBEBEBEEB ;) (I do love soaring though, have the payware and fly on Condor 2 and a little IRL :D)
Smooth landing......nice!
Haha, thanks Frank! Always try my best ; )
Cheers!
I bought this plane 5 days ago and I can’t Startup the plane but then I saw ur video and I know now how to start up the plane. Thanks
Ah perfect, very glad the video was of help Mikael! I do hope you're enjoying the Discus then - it's a beautiful way to experience MSFS.
Happy flying and all the best : )
Did this in vr today, it was amazing.
Ah awesome B52, I’ll bet it’s spectacular in VR! Glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
Excellent video 👍🏻
A big thanks Sibzy! Really glad you enjoyed it : )
Cheers for watching once again!
I just bought this I’m looking forward to a lot of gliding.
Bought this (and the R3) off of the sale a few days ago and when I first tried it out, I was absolutley amazed. The last time I flew gliders in a flight sim were the Me-163 and Go-229 (Ho IX with engines) in Il-2 '46 and maybe you could count those in the Ultrawings games for VR as well, but their glide rate is atrocious (still better than the other planes', I mean it's just a game and it's actually fun). Before that there's basically just been the Schweizer 232 in the older MSFS versions and I remember having had some sort of mod for it (must be pre 2k2 and pre my IBM IC35 headcrash in 2001 since I don't have the files anymore) that ought to simulate the winch, but all it did was act like a silent rocket engine with unlimited fuel as long as you were staying below a certain altitude :D - but at least with that it was possible to fly that thing without having to use the AC translation thing to put you somewhere in the sky anymore. Waiting for the official gliders and aerodynamics + thermodynamics improvements as well as the helos, but I just had to snag this one for 8,99... what a steal! :)
15:16 I did that twice already :D
Really glad you're enjoying the Discus RD! I finally got around to picking up the payware version myself also (during the sale hehe). It's an absolutely cracking effort from Got Friends and still my preferred glider in the sim overall. Like you, my previous virtual gliding jaunts, extend to some iffy experiences with default gliders of past sims; as much as I tried to like them, the flights always felt a bit fruitless, with no real scenery to enjoy - MSFS changes all of that of course!
I hope you're enjoying SU11 and remembering to ditch your ballast before landing ; )
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Been watching you for years and for some reason forgot to sub, do I have brain damage? Perhaps. Subbed now anyhow. Appreciate all these videos, always fantastic!!
Haha, well thanks very much Anthony! Really glad you’re still enjoying the content after all this time.
It’s funny, I still think of the channel as being “new”, but I guess it’s passed the 2 year mark at this point. Thanks very much for the sub! Usually I’d say “welcome aboard”, but it sounds like you’ve been hiding down the back for quite some time : P
Cheers and all the best! : )
Wow!
Yeah, it’s a pretty beautiful combo isn’t it Gary! Brilliant addon, in some rather stunning scenery : )
All the best!
I live in this area! :D Love it!
Lucky you Simon, it looks like a stunning location in which to live! : )
Cheers, all the best!
The gear should stay extended until you disconnect from the tow airplane.
You want to have the extra drag which makes towing a lot more stable.
Reference speeds and altitudes are in Meters ;)
As ALWAYS another great content, thank you so much!
True. There is no reason to retract the gear of a Djscus before releasing. However in some bigger and heavier gliders like my DG505 it is better to retract the wheel after reaching a safety height . The tow pilot will thank you.
Yup. And I dunno about that trim at 108 KNOTS. LOL A bit too low in the tow as well, and maybe should have lifted the glider off the ground earlier to decrease the drag for the towplane.
But a great video nevertheless 🙂
Cheers e36s!
I’ve never flown a glider with retractable gear and I figured it would be better for the towing aircraft, if I got rid of the drag. It seems my logic was flawed there though haha. In hindsight, I can see how the drag would help. . .
You’ll have to forgive me on the Km/h vs knots etc. I was aware that I was flying in Km/h, but it’s just so alien to me, that my brain always automatically reverts back to knots (same on the altitude). I’m sure after a few more hours in the Discus, I’ll have the hang of things a little better ; )
Thanks very much for the tips! Really glad you enjoyed the video : )
Haha, well that was my logic Antonio - never even considered that the drag could potentially help! Thanks for clarifying. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations you are very welcome!
Imagine us germans after WW2 -> miles, knots, feet 🤯🤣
lovely!
Thanks Lior! The Discus and the scenery certainly made for a pretty special combination overall : )
looks like fun indeed. I can imagine an ITBS sailing contest. 🙂
Brilliant fun Peter! Well worth a try ; )
Haha, well that sounds like fun, but sadly my most recent competition rather proved that community events just aren’t very popular on the channel; 8K watched the video and I got a grand total of 25 submissions. So if I can’t give stuff away for free, I can only imagine how fruitful my trying to organise another event might be XD
Maybe let’s wait until 100K : P
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yep, I understand the figures and hard facts. and what about the joy? 😃
Thanks for another excellent video. I think simulated gliding is fascinating. I have a request could you give me the locations. I know you usually do with the powered flights.
My pleasure Michael, really glad you enjoyed the video! I agree that gliding is a fascinating way to fly and fits very nicely into MSFS for the most part.
The locations should be in the video description, but I believe it was G-FNDS to LOWZ, if memory serves me correctly : )
All the best!
So peaceful..... BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP.
Haha! Well this is true GP, although the beeping can be turned off I believe XD
All the best!
I used to think that anything which moves which does not have an engine, was far too dangerous to contemplate. That’s the problem when you grow up with a sister who was mad on horses. Stupid things. No engines, and no brakes either so they have a mind of their own. Anyway, turns out I may have been wrong :)
Haha, my sister used to like horses as well Mark, personally I wouldn't go near the ruddy things!
I'd much rather fall out of the sky slowly from 3,000ft, than very quickly off the back of a moving animal from 6ft! XD
Enjoy! : )
Xtreme Soaring 3D - Free Sailplane Simulator, Racing in the afternoon!
Ah, not one I have heard of Ricky. Thanks, I shall have to check it out! : )
Do the gliders have a ground winch option. That was a fun experience irl, and something I used a lot in FSX
This one does indeed Matt. The standard Discus version is winch launch only by default (I was using a 3rd party app for the aero tow), however I believe there are no visual objects for the cable, winch truck etc. The premium version comes with both winch and aerotow, as well as visual models for both.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Excellent video and you flew at my Homebase :) my dad lives a few km from there in the summer and we just ate there last weekend. Many gliders around and also a nice destination for GAs. Afaik gliding should be natively supported with SU10 ? We are hoping to be able to use tow plane and glider in multiplayer. Same we do with our RC-models towing the glider up and then soaring in FPV. If you can’t fly real anymore this is as close as it gets. Thank for pointing me to the plane gonna look it up.
Thanks Michael! Lucky you, it must be an absolutely stunning place to live!
I believe you're correct - gliders should be natively supported alongside SU10. Gliding is already brilliant fun in MSFS as it stands though, so lets hope things can only get better!
It's been a long time since I've had involvement with RC planes, but I always used to dream of some sort of VR option haha. It sounds like the technology is finally there and as you say, probably about as close as you can get to the real thing, without actually sitting in the cockpit - must be fun.
Happy flying! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hi I will make a video of the cockpit view while we tow the sailplane. Wanted to do it anyways. Looking from the ground is horrible when you reach a certain altitude and you start guessing how the plane is flying. Sitting inside the cockpit is absolutely great and it benefits a nice stable tow. I ll come back to you once I got the video :)
Just bought the Discus. How do I bind an axis to the speedbrakes? Didn't find "speedbrakes/airbrakes" even in the controller menue. (using a Warthog HOTAS)
Hi Henry, apologies for the slow reply.
You need to assign your hardware to the "Spoiler Axis".
I hope that helps! Happy flying and all the best : )
Great video. I'm not a pilot.....yet, but had an acrobatic flioght experience in a glider flight near Lake Taupo in NZ many years ago and this brought that experience back. We got towed up to 10000 ft on that flight, but i took over the controls to gain some Ridge lift at one point. Very special experience. I am now thinking about getting the PPL. Do you think being in your early 50's and still wanting to make that jump to becoming a light aircraft pilot is realistic?
Thanks very much MC, glad you enjoyed it (you can probably tell that I enjoyed making this one haha)!
Wow. Well of all the flying experiences to have, I’ll bet that ranks right up there! Gliding is a very special experience, the little aerobatics I’ve done in gliders was great fun and judging by the sim, Lake Taupo is an absolutely stunning location.
If you have the money, I would 100% say “go for it”! 50 is perfectly young enough to be working towards a PPL - it’s very achievable to have the licence completed within 6 months to 1 year and then you’ll hopefully still have many years or flying ahead of you. Honestly, PPL flying is some of the most fun you can have in aviation. As with any sort of flight training, it’s probably worth obtaining a medical first, just to make sure you meet the requirements, before investing heavily in the training itself.
If you do choose to pursue it, best of luck and please do let me know how it goes! : )
Is there any options to set the varios sound? For me it would be relevant when i hear the sound at a sink ratio of 1.5 m/s or maybe 2 m/s..
Hello Karol,
So far as I remember, it’s possible to adjust the vario volume but, not the parameters at which you will hear a tone (which would indeed be a nice option to have).
I hope that helps. All the best : )
Any suggested MSFS sensitivity settings for the 4 major control surfaces?
Hi Neil,
I don’t change a whole lot in the sim myself to be honest (though I agree that generally MSFS is a bit overly sensitive). I keep everything default except the rudder (which I find to be the worst offender) - there I run a -50 curve, which I find helps a bit.
Sorry I can’t offer up more on that one. All the best! : )
the motorized version will self launch, it just needs a pretty long runway :P
Haha, so I hear Bob! Im definitely going to have to give that a try at some point ; )
Cheers, all the best!
I'm really glad you look into Got Friends product, they have one of the best dev teams in MSFS. I was not sure about their glider, as I have zero knowledge about gliders, except they climb in thermals, but I think I will pick premium version, just to support the devs. Just one question, did you try it with live weather? I read something that it's only useable with weather preset, as there are no thermals in live weather(?). Thank you and cheers
Proper soaring in live weather is entirely viable and very fun atm, just have to be in the right place at the right time :) Ridge lift, thermals under cumulus clouds and thermals over dark areas of ground are all currently modelled to a decent extent, and will only be improved in upcoming sim updates.
Indeed GT; I was actually rather surprised to see / hear just to what extent things have already been modelled in the sim - I hadn't really been keeping up with the progress. MSFS is certainly already more than passable in this regard, though I am still very much looking forward to seeing what Asobo bring with SU10 : )
Cheers!
Hi Tomas,
I'm glad I did as well haha! I tried gliding some time ago in the sim and back then it wasn't great, so it rather put me off. I took a punt on the Discus and I am so glad that I did! A cracking effort and as you say, Got Friends certainly deserve the support.
My understanding is that while presets etc are the way to go for a slightly more authentic experience, gliding within the sim is actually perfectly doable using Live Weather (as GurtTarctor alludes to). I was using Live Weather for this flight and as you can see, we did manage to find some lift here and there along the way. I believe GT's summary is a pretty accurate explanation as to the current state of the sim and things should also improve alongside SU10.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Bad habit putting the gear up so soon on tow for 2 reasons. 1. It distracts from what you should be doing, staying in position behind the tug (biggest cause of tug upset) and 2. If the rope broke low down you are likely to land in a field with the gear retracted!
Additionally, no glider I know has cockpit lighting!
Thanks for the pointers Jim. I never flew a glider with a retractable gear; I figured getting rid of the drag would be a sensible move (especially since the tug was struggling for performance), but it seems my logic fell flat on its face haha.
I guess the cockpit lighting is perhaps a reasonable concession for the sim - it came in rather handy for the video at any rate ; )
Cheers and all the best : )
Now that there are those basegame gliders, would you still recommend picking this one up or has microsoft done a good job?
Hi Alfder,
I would say that the Discus is still the best glider available for the sim and does have a number of advantages over the default gliders. The best advice I can give though; try the freeware version of the 2C and see what you think for yourself : )
Cheers!
Was the towing plane flown by a multiplayer person? Thanks!
Can't wait for the 40th anniversary update, will the Discus 2C be available in the in-game shop, before? The one thing turning me off a bit is the audio-variometer in sailplanes, couldn't they find a less annoying solution over the years? :D
Zell am See - Innsbruck is my favourite flight in the game. If you enjoy it, there are very well done airports by Gaya Simulations (LOWZ Zell am See) and ORBX (LOWI Innsbruck), both adding a lot of atmosphere to the scenery (and additional buildings in the vicinity).
Yes, will be on the official marketplace "hopefully" next week on PC and Xbox. The variotone can be muted as well with the volume knob. Silence is available! Haha :)
@@JonxSimulations Thanks for the info, I'm looking forward to it! Then it's the mountains, the glider and some Jean-Michel Jarre! (Oxygene Part 4) :D
Hi Toran,
Thanks very much for the info regarding the scenery, I’ll have to look into it. Haha, as the devs have pointed out, silence can be achieved should you so wish - much more peaceful that way ; )
Cheers and all the best! : )
@@JonxSimulations Kept looking out for it. :) The plane feels awesome, majestic as an eagle and fast as a Hayabusa falcon! I especially love the FES edition as long as thermals aren't implemented yet. Great work and a very fair price! 5/5 to me.
Sounds like you have one of the clangers in the back seat.
Hehehe yes
Haha, indeed Andy! Had a Clanger down the back for a bit of ballast XD
All the best!
Good thing and i have the payware version but your tow is too slow. You have to climb steeper .If you soar closer to the ridges you catch more lift (variometer). Anyway thanks for the review
Hi Willem,
Haha, well that was the best I could get out of the Robin - the poor little Cadet was struggling up at altitude (any further increase in climb rate and the aircraft was losing airspeed). It perhaps wasn't the best choice of tow for the mountains, but I wanted to use it, since the Robin was one of the tow aircraft we used at my old gliding club.
I did mention briefly during the video, that I wasn't looking to catch any ridge lift during the flight, but I appreciate the pointer nonetheless : )
Cheers for the tips - much appreciated!
Any reason why you didn’t insert thermals with Kinetic Assistant considering you were using that?
Quite simply because it’s just not a process I’m familiar with WhiteHawk. I’m sure it’s not rocket science (and I will definitely look into it for next time), but I figured it wouldn’t be make or break for the video : )
All the best!
hmm think my prev comment got flagged for a link so I'll try again without. This is an excellent addon, the included weather presets are handy and I'll almost certainly be getting the payware version once it's on the marketplace. BUT don't sleep on the AS 33 Me also on flightsimdotto. Since I got interested in the gliders the AS 33 Me is my go to, it's every bit as feature rich as the Discus, having most of the payware features of the Discus but it's free and the D/L is tiny in comparison. Both are excellent freeware so what's not to love?. GJ ITB
Thanks very much for the heads up IB! Yeah, I'm sure it was the link that got your post removed (UA-cam is really rather annoying when it comes to that).
I tried gliding in the early days of MSFS and the experience just put me off haha. It seems things have come along way since then though, so I shall be sure to check out the AS 33 when I get the chance!
Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Nice, I’ve since tried the payware discuss and I’m doubling down the AS is better IMHO. The dev is an IRL glider pilot and going back and watching some of his vids and seeing the effort this guy has put in is amazing. They’re both great but I just keep going out in the AS, graphically the AS is a bit rougher when cold and dark but otherwise I’ve found it to be a fantastic experience, very easy to fly and just a great experience all round. Obviously I’m not a pilot so as for irl accuracy I can’t say, but as a gaming experience it’s fantastic.
premium version is on spring sale just picked it up for $10
Very nice Crisis! The Discus is a great pickup for $10. Happy flying : )
Hello, tell me how to install a plane that pulls to a height? Or what is this mod called?
Hi,
For the freeware version of the Discus, you’ll require a payware mod called “Kinetic Assistant”, to allow you to carry out an aerotow. If you have the “Premium” payware version of the Discus, you’ll have aerotow functionality included as part of the package I believe.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Is that towing plane AI or multiplayer? How to connect it in freeware version? There are no guides even in official manual.
there's no towing plane in the freeware version, he was using Kinetic Assistant for the tow plane.
Thanks for offering up the help Hartbreak! : )
Hi Pawel,
As Hartbreak mentions; with the freeware version of the glider, there is no towing option available by default. So here I was using a 3rd party payware app called Kinetic Assistant. Among other functionalities, KA allows you to record a tow aircraft profile, which you can then "replay" for your launch. The premium version of the Discus comes with similar functionality as standard.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
You forgot to say “Prop clear!”
Haha, that was the tug pilots job on this occasion Guilherme! : P
All the best : )
Yes well a real Britton making a mess on the metric units, sorry dear man (at 10.02) you're flying at 1650 meters and at a speed of 108 km/h . A 108 knots is 200 km/h which is a bit fast for a glider.
Haha, indeed Peter; I've spent my whole life working in knots / feet, so a few slip-ups were to be expected! I just about managed to keep it together with the meters, but km/h tripped me up a couple of times for sure XD
Cheers, all the best! : )
How you get the towing Airplane?
Hi Kowinator,
It depends on which version of the glider you’re using: I’m not too sure about the payware version, as I’ve only just picked it up on the Marketplace myself. For the freeware version, there is no aerotow option by default I’m afraid; here I was using a payware program called “Kinetic Assistant” to perform the aerotow (details of how to do so, are available in the product’s manual).
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best : )
Great video, I still can’t get anything from flight sim.to to work. I’m putting the files in the right place, they are appearing on the content manager listing. I just can’t select them for flight….
Thanks very much Paul!
Hmm, that’s very odd. The only things I can think of: 1) Are you aware that there are actually 2 community folders - could it be that your placing the addon in the wrong one? 2) Are you using the right file structure? Usually once the file has been unzipped, it’s not the folder itself that you want to copy across, but the folder contained within it.
Eg,
“Into the Blue’s Addon Scenery” > “Scenery File” > Content Library, Objects etc. . .
You’d want to go into the Addon Scenery folder and then copy the “Scenery File” Into your Community folder. Does that help at all?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the information, i've actually got it to load and i can fly it, but i can only get a winch tow launch. How do i get the tug launch. Any ideas?
Ah, well I’m glad to hear you’re making progress Paul haha! Are you running the freeware or the Premium version of the Discus? For the freeware version, you will need to purchase Kinetic Assistant if you want to aerotow, for the payware version I’m afraid I’m not sure - haven’t picked it up myself yet, as I’m waiting for it to be released on the Marketplace.
Sorry I can’t be of a bit more help there. All the best : )
Looks beautifull . But the instruments are not working properly. The plane is ascending, but the indicator tells you your going down
I did notice that Paul. I presume it has something to do with the way the tow is modelled in MSFS, causing some sort incorrect data to be sent to the instruments. I haven’t had a chance to carry out another flight yet though, so haven’t been able to test things further / see whether or not the same thing happens under other flight conditions.
All the best! : )
i try downloading the glider for days but msfs loses connection every 5 mins. i don't get the problem...
Hi Bigvlolgin,
Sorry to hear that. I'm not exactly sure what might be causing the issue, but I had similar probalems in the past and it always related to my wifi connection (which was always fine otherwise). If you can, I would suggestion moving the wifi router closer to your PC, or otherwise going with a wired connection (which is what I had to do for a while). Something about the way MSFS downloads, really doesn't cope well with less than perfect wifi it seems.
I'm afraid I'm not sure what else the problem could be, so I hope that helps!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you, somehow it worked after several days. But i do have connection Problems with the Sim often during flight. Maybe the Wifi , i have to see. And the Glider is most fun of all planes i think.
MSFS is crying out for gliders as the scenery is made for them. I use Condor 2 where Wave, Thermal and Ridge lift are all modelled. It lacks the beauty of the MSFS Scenery. Hopefully it will come in the future. The Discus, like all glass ships, is very slippery. Approach speed is critical or you just keep going if too fast. A brilliant way to enjoy a relaxed hour or two of flying.
Completely Alan! I am forever meaning to check out Condor (I used to enjoy a bit of Sailors of the Sky back in the day), but the MSFS scenery does fit rather perfectly with the whole gliding experience.
The MSFS environmentals still have some way to go, but they are a cut above most of the other big sims. Hopefully we'll see Asobo continue to refine things, to the point where the sim is on a par with the likes of Condor etc. All of that being said, I had a thoroughly enjoyable time out in the Discus either way : )
Happy flying!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I did buy the paid version of the Discus a few days ago. Great value!
How have you got a tow plane ? I can't seem to find it
Kinetic Assistant
Discus 2C premium has built in towing, just have a friend park infront of you and you can click connect on the LX NAV unit. No need for external software / Kinetic Assist
Thanks for offering up the help WhiteHawk - much appreciated : )
Cheers for offering up the info Skoots, much appreciated! : )
Hi Josh,
As the others point out; here I was using Kinetic Assistant for the aerotow. It's a great little app and can also be used for winch launches, catapult launches and recovery off carriers etc. The Premium version of the Discus comes with its own aerotow options though, among other launch options. The freeware version of the Discus comes with winch launch only and I believe there are no associated visual animations (unlike with the Premium version).
I hope that helps! All the best : )
03:21 How are people getting shots like this?
Hi AH,
I use a 3rd party recording tool, which can be found here:
flightsim.to/file/8163/flight-recorder
I record the flight and then use the replay for any external shots that I wish to capture. Afterwards I then edit the external shots into the video.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
I play on Xbox and I'm ready to give up on the game as I just can't find the right console settings to play
Sorry to hear that Nigel. I’m afraid I can’t really offer up any advice there, since I don’t own an Xbox myself; I didn’t appreciate that the settings were that configurable on the console, I thought it was a fairly “fixed” setup.
I do hope you manage to work something out. All the best!
Wo kann Thermik sein?
Frage: Ist hier im MS-Simulator überhaupt schon eine Möglichkeit gegeben Aufwind zu finden?? Doch offensichtlich schon. Zufall? oder gibt es Hinweise
Mein Verständnis ist, dass Thermik in größerem Maße modelliert wird, als ich zuerst realisiert habe. Zum Beispiel können sie über bewaldeten / dunkleren Gebieten gefunden werden und einige andere Arten von Aufzügen werden ebenfalls modelliert.
Mit Kinetic Assistant bietet das Programm zwar eine Karte an, die visuell anzeigt, wo sich die Thermik befindet, aber das verdirbt natürlich etwas den Spaß: P
Sim Update 10 sollte das Gleiten in der Sim nativ etwas verbessern.
Prost Friedrich! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Ich bedanke mich für deine ausführliche Antwort my friend 👍
Ah, so serene.. Well, except for the incessant beeping and moaning of the variometer 🤣
Haha! Touche sir XD
The variometer can actually be turned off in fairness though ; )
All the best!
Keine deutsche Übersetzung? Ein großer Mangel!!
Hallo Friedrich,
Beziehst du dich hier auf das Segelflugzeug oder auf das Video?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Natürlich bezog ich mich auf den leider nur englischen Text. Hatte beim Versuch des studierens der Beschreibung des Discus den Eindruck, der Flieger wäre in allen Möglichkeiten eines Thermik-oder Hangaufwindes noch nicht ganz ausgereift Ich warte nun auf die Möglichkeit eines Gliders der Offenen Klasse.
Danke nochmals für deine Mühe.
Never, really NEVER pull up the gear while in tow
Thanks for the pointer Leviathan. Yeah, a few others have mentioned the same thing. I'm sure you can see my train of thought on that one - reducing the drag for the already struggling little Robin haha, but it's since been explained to me why that logic doesn't ring true. Not ever having flown a glider with a retractable wheel, that was news to me ; )
Cheers and all the best : )
Why does my comment keep getting deleted? I have said nothing offensive.
Haha sorry, I’m afraid I have no idea why Morrissey; the UA-cam censorship algorithm is a strange any mysterious thing. Did you post a link in your comment? UA-cam doesn’t like that ha.
What was it you were wanting to post?
Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Very strange, my comment is there now lol. No, it was just that I love gliding in MSFS and there is some nice scenery of Yorkshire Gliding Club on Flightsim to. Gliding around the beautiful Yorkshire dales is marvelous!
Haha, bizarre. . . Ah well, glad your comment came back haha. Someone else mentioned the Yorkshire gliding club scenery, I shall definitely have to check it out (did a bit of flying in the area myself, back in the day)!
Cheers : )
The problem with Brandon Yaeger who developed SOME of what you see here is that he uses unauthorized content which he hasn't gotten permission to use from the content creator. He then claims not to have done so and accuses those he took from of lying. If you really look closely at the instruments, systems and textures they are mostly taken from the DG-808S by Touching Cloud and those that poured their heart sweat and tears into it and then claims credit for himself.
Hi PM,
Thanks for the heads up. Of course if true, that is a reprehensible practice. I could be wrong, but I believe Touching Cloud had quite a bit of input with the Discus, so I suspect in this case the dev you mention would have been working alongside TC, as part of the Got Friends team? I hope that is the case at any rate. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I worked with Alex Marko and I created all the gauges, NAV computer, dash and other cockpit texturing for the DG-808S and I am credited (David Fairhurst) for the textures on the Touching Cloud site. The problem is that Alex passed along the DG-808S systems along with my textures without my consent or knowledge then deceived me once I confronted him on the matter when I saw my textures and the DG-808S systems in UA-cam videos of the Discus 2C at the end of 2021 and early 2022. Alex claimed to know little on the matter and then put me in contact with Jonx (Simulations) who claimed that he nor his team at any time had used or were using any textures I created. Interestingly, right after these denials minor changes were made to the Discus textures that I had created and to which I have all original .psd data in the following Discus 2C release.
Ah well I’m very sorry to hear that then! That’s disappointing to hear. . .
I’m afraid I don’t know much about this sort of thing, but it sounds like there aren’t many options for recourse? I know it won’t help per se, but I would be more than happy to take the 808S out for a spin at some point, if that’s something that’s of any interest to you (I can’t make a promise on the timeframe though I’m afraid, since I have a lot of irons in the fire currently)?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No need but thanks for the offering. I am done with Touching Cloud and Alex Marko and have no further dealings with them due to the situation discussed above. Been burned once and that's enough.
I wish you people would actually learn something first before trying to tell others.
1) Your airspeed is in KPH
2) The flight model is total junk (not the aircraft, but FS)
3) That vario is completely wrong!! It's showing sink when it should be showing climb while on tow (compensated or not!)
4) Ground handling is totally wrong
5) Handling on tow is wrong
6) They are AIRBRAKES, not "spoilers". The binary on/off operation is also completely wrong. Are you using an XBox controller?
7) Thermals are totally unrealistic in FS2020 (and FS2024)
8) You make a big deal about the ground textures, but absolutely nothing about the sky/clouds/reading the sky to find lift. Comes across as marketing propaganda. FS is total garbage in the area that it should be very good at: THE SKY!!! Screw a few satellite ground textures. Irrelevant for flying gliders!
For anyone seriously considering a simulator for gliding, there is only one option: Condor 2. Thank me later.
I think you're conflating "fun" with "realism", PC. At no point, did I state that the addon offers up the most realistic gliding experience, merely that I had a lot of fun with aircraft.
For sure, Condor is a much better glider sim however, that wasn't the focus of this review and at any rate, let's be honest, Condor doesn't offer up the sort of simming experience that many MSFS simmers are looking for. I enjoy a whole host of different sims, for different reasons but, there's certainly no harm in relaxing and watching the world (real-world imagery) go by.
Again, I'm fairly sure I made it clear during the video, that I wasn't looking to offer up any sort of tutorial, merely to showcase the addon; yes, I made a few errors in terminology etc but, I spend the vast majority of my time flying in knots and using spoilers - my brain just reverted to type.
Cheers
Is anything actually modeled in the, msfs is so unfinished.
MSFS does still have some way to go Unfound, but as I think this flight hopefully demonstrated (at least to some degree), it is also now possible to have some brilliant experiences in the sim!
All the best : )
Very nice sim tutorial. Generally good narration but your accent is a bit annoying. Words that end with the letter "A" get butchered when replaced with "Er". Americker, Indier, Africker, jeeze man, your mispronouncing some proper nouns, like Austri-er". Ok, just a personal complaint but proper nouns should afford a but more respect. Good program overall I agree. At least you dont say "drawerings" rather than "drawings".
Overall, you've sold me on the glider and thats why we're here.
Hi AB,
Haha, well I don’t profess to be a language or elocution expert. You aren’t the first person to voice a distaste for the way I talk and fair enough, I don’t consider myself to be much of an orator either. I dare say though, that as with most accents, it’s a question of what one is used to.
As you point out, I’m here for the flight simulation / product reviews and I think I do a half-decent job with that ; )
I’m glad you enjoyed the video otherwise. Cheers and all the best.
Hate it when obviously not R/L gliderpilots review and comment on sim gliders - 99% talk bullshite - your glide performance won't increase when you release ballast it will decrease........ plus you have failed to notice the overreading vario,
I'd love to check out your videos. Oh, there aren't any.
@@SkyborneVisions Rubbish, learn about Reynold numbers................... in modern airfoils glide ratio improves with ballast - and it helps you not, if you can't reach that next lift........you are correct about ballast if all you want to is float around a minimum sink in weak lift though. Now how any hours do you have in a R/L glider 1000, 2000, 3000. 40000. 5000 hours plus? How any competitions have you flown? At national and international level?
@@WeirdNeville bullshite is still bullshite.
Hi BB,
Well I don’t think the video title, thumbnail or indeed anything I said during the video, suggested that you were about to receive expert tutelage in how to fly gliders? As I mentioned during the introduction; I did “a little bit of gliding many years ago” - I don’t think that precludes me from enjoying a spot of virtual gliding though?
I’ll agree that it was a poor choice of words / explanation on my part regarding ballast. My understanding; one is basically trading endurance / efficiency in thermals etc, for speed? Having just done a little more reading, I see your point re the Reynolds number and it’s effect on overall range also. Surely then it depends on what one is looking to achieve, in terms of whether ballast “improves” the aircraft’s performance?
I’ll readily admit that I have no idea what you’re referring to re the over-reading variometer. I’m always more than happy to learn though, should you wish to offer up the info.
If you do indeed have several thousand hours of gliding under your belt and have competed internationally, then that’s impressive, but it’s a shame you are using that knowledge to seemingly chastise others, as opposed to helping people learn / enjoy the hobby etc.
All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations There you go spouting bullshite again because basically you know sfa about gliding and gliders - you are doing a 'review' for commercial reasons to earn yourself money through UA-cam -lets not kid ourselves, that's what this channel is about - the least I would expect is correct knowledge on the subject. As for your stupid comment re: helping people learn, I have introduced thousands of people to the R/L sport and trained in excess of a thousand sailplane pilots. If you had done a proper review and indeed had correct knowledge of gliding you would realise that the vario overreads by a factor of approximately 2 when climbing in lift...........
Was going to wait for gliders to be fully supported for msfs 2020. But you did such a good job with this video I am downloading now, never flown a glider before, what could possibly go wrong! 🫡
Haha, well thanks very much Cjm; I always try and inspire people to try different things in the sim, so I’m glad you felt compelled to give gliding a go! Well worth giving the freeware version a try at any rate.
Ha! Well at least you won’t have to worry about destroying your engine. . . : P
All the best and happy flying : )
That’s very true about the engine. If you don’t use kinetic assistant do these still work somehow, I know there’s no thermals in the sim yet. Been flying without Kinetic and think iam just getting lift off air flow, tried kinetic assist but it’s a bit clunky and caused a crash to desktop so binned it off for now.
There’s also another glider that comes with a mini jet engine on it.
Yes, should still work fairly well Cjm. I actually wasn’t using Kinetic Assistant for any thermals etc in this video (just for the aerotow) and still managed to find some ridge lift. Apparently various types of lift are already modelled in the sim and things should be refined further with SU10.
For the jet glider, are you referring to the C22J?
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations the 808 I think it is