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VP9 vs P320 Honest Comparison
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2022
- Comparison of two of the best striker fire guns from two of the biggest and best companies.
If you are considering one or both I hope this video helps with some details
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I have been a S&W guy and shooting for 40 yrs. I bought a HK VP 9 and I love it! Ergonomics are A+, and the trigger is awesome. My HK is super accurate!
that trigger is very cool. I need to buy some S&Ws at some point! THANK YOU for watching!!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuyOklahoma City PD is switching to HK VP9 from SIG P320 due to recent safety and reliability issues P320 has had with multiple agencies. It’s not even going to be authorized as off duty.
Oklahoma highway patrol is also forcing all the troopers to turn all the issued P320s in for new Glocks.
HK VP9! I got mine in summer of 2019. Great shooting, great ergonomics, good trigger, and HK quality.
Agree!! Fantastic gun. I love LOVE the trigger in that thing! HK just made a very well thought out firearm!
THANK YOU for watching!
Thanks for the comparison. When I decided to get into personal defense pistols, the P320 and VP9 were top contenders in the options I was considering. I selected the VP9 over the P320 for 1) better trigger, 2) excellent ergonomic grip, 3) paddle mag release, 4) P320 reputation for firing while dropped & being inserted in holsters, 5) proven track record of reliability. I know item 5 will be contentious for some P320 owners, but I've seen too many reviews where the P320 will misfeed from time to time. Not a lot. But more than the VP9. I've never had a single malfunction out of my VP9, VP9SK, or P30.
One observation that I've made on most all VP9 reviews, is they fail to mention that, for those that prefer the American style button magazine release, the VP9 is available in either button or paddle magazine release.
I went w the P320 first - and I’ve enjoyed it tremendous as a modular “toy” - constantly building new/ different versions. VP9 is the one I grab most often for all those reasons you mentioned. Maybe I’ll pick up a VP9SK one day!!
When did the VP9 start being offered with a push button mag release? I must be slipping ...
The vp9 is best for all the right reasons I also carry a vp9sk love it!
HK is superior in quality and durability.
They are pretty spectacular!!! Would be fun to see USP vs P226. That could be a nice test!!! THANK YOU for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy 226 is great but still will require parts change at a higher interval vs USP. The extractor , springs etc will not last as long as the USP . Nothing else last longer than USP period .
@@RichiesHouse Are you basing your conclusions on objective evidence, or is it just an opinion?
My shooting club has USPs and P226s. They are well lubricated and maintained. The frame on P226s crack at 80000-100000 rounds. The 9mm and 45acp Usps run 150000+.
Both are extreme reliable combat handguns.
Cmon, you gotta relax a bit with the HK. Is it high quality with durability? Well at $800+ bucks it damn well better be. Imo, for a polymer pistol, they’re just over-engineered.
I have the VP9SK and it's a fantastic pistol. No malfunctions since owning it, the ergos are great and I really dig the paddle mag release.
LOVE the paddle release!! All I really want on any gun!! THANK YOU for watching!!
Yes I just picked one up 2 weeks ago and love it. Getting use to the paddle mag release.
@@rick7702 Big fan of the paddle release!!! THANKS FOR WATCHING!!
I've carried the 365XL since it came out. I was looking for a bigger, winter carry/bedside pistol, and I was going to get a 320. But I decided I'd rather not risk the pistol going off by itself, so I got a VP9. Months later, very happy I made that choice.
VP9 is a fantastic gun with an awesome trigger. I’ve never carried mine - alway bedside or range use but love it. Thanks for watching!
Same as me but I wanted the VP9L version because it has the o ring like usp
I’m in exact same spot. Have the 365xl and want either vp9 or the p330…. I think I’m going to go with the hk
@@jjl499 I love my vp9L
Turn your guns in dunce. Pistols don't just go off.
I got the HK VP9.. I LOVE IT!!! Fit in my hand perfectly
Like you. I have a VP9 and a P320c with the LE trigger. Both are cool. I shoot both very well, maybe the grip and trigger are a hair better on the VP9. I got the tritium upgrade. Neither has failed me yet. Both upgraded models are pretty much good right out of the box. I don’t mod them crap out of my guns. I’d rather buy them good to go.
I just bought the vp9 over the p320 about an hr ago. Cant wait to pick it up.
I bought the HK VP9
Never look back
HK is fully ambidextrous. There’s is a button release version for the magazine (VP9B). The grip on the VP9 is fantastic fully configurable back strap and side panels comes in 3 different sizes.
Being a lefty I LOVE how ambi friendly HK is!! Paddle release is my favorite! Thanks for watching.
I’m just a fun fan boy. As long as it works, is reliable, and looks nice, I’m all in. My personal favorite gun is my P320 simply because of how easily I can personalize it and really make it whatever I want. I can buy all the parts online no issue. I already have the FCU, which I’ve done some work on too. It’s basically the AR of the pistol world. There are other guns that I love just as much for different reasons. But I also have no delusions that the P320 is THE best gun. It sure is up there though. I think all quality guns should be appreciated equally.
The Sig does look very good , personally I’m stroking a Heckler & Koch , is my second H&K , really , really liking it . Great video . Wish I had both . I guess .
Thanks for the comparison, really digging the VP9 and think I may pick one up next. But you can't beat the Sig on modularity. The metal frame and wood grips are a real nice look and I bet it's a nice soft shooter with the extra weight. Both are real nice.
thanks so much for watching!!!
Had both. Still own the VP.
Would not let it go!! HK is a heirloom in my family I hope!! Thanks for watching!!
The only thin I wish for on my VP9 and VP9SK would be a de-cocker.
The only thing that I like about SIG is that we both live in New Hampshire.
I own H&K, Walther, Glock and CZ . Nice presentation 👍
🎯💥👀🗽⚖️🇺🇲✌️
You made my day!! Thank YOU so much!!!
Oh - I’ve visited Sig’s nee NH facility. Pretty amazing
Vp9 feels better in the hand and a lower bore axis so more recoil. Shot both Vp9 all the way.
I have them both and love them both. I refuse to choose one over the other🤷🏾♂️
Great!!!! Both great guns! I seem to gravitate to Sig’s and HK’s the most…. THANK YOU for watching!!
Just picked up an HK vp9 cant wait to hit the range
Thanks for the video. Both guns are nice. Again, thanks for sharing.
Really good presentation. Thank you!
Thank YOU for watching!!!!
I had a Sig p320x full size for about 3.5 years i recently traded it for a Beretta 92x RDO Compact... Now i just picked up the P320 X10 in 10mm...i love the grip and the way p320's shoot!
I have an X10 on order!! Can’t wait to shoot it!!! Also - one day I would like to get a full size Beretta 92! Thank you for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy Ditto on the full size Beretta!
The modularity of the P320 allows you to change whatever you want about it - that makes it one of the best options out there.
HK doesn’t have drop safe issues so that’s huge also.
Both triggers are serviceable, not great.
I own both (VP9T and compact in 40 cal which looks like a completely different pistol than the one I initially purchased).
I enjoy the Sig more as it’s basically an adult Lego set but I’m more confident in the VP9
Think I am 100% with you on all those points. THANK YOU for watching!!!
The P320 does not allow you to change whatever you want to about it. The only thing one can do is change the frame size based on its “modularity”. It’s a faulty design, at best.
The modular option is just stupid. Really tell me who buys into it. The other frames slides and barrels cost as much as a new gun so what is the point?
The VP9 is a better designed weapon as is the Walther line. And I'd take an M&P or Canik over the 320 because it is a blocky troubled gun with the ergonomics of a Ryobi cordless drill. The H&K is a machine.
Thank you so much, this is a great comparison as I am buying my first self defence gun.
thank you for this useful comparison. I am familiar with the vp9, I had one that I am reselling. I had only 2 complaints against it: its ugliness and its recoil more pronounced than the competition (which made me resell it). otherwise the ergonomics are excellent and it is very accurate indeed.
The p320 has always been a possibility since its release but I never chose it: your review confirms that I was right. When you don't give a damn about modularity, which is my case, this gun doesn't bring what I expect: ergonomics I like and low barrel on the hand.
Awesome!! Glad it helped!! THANK YOU for watching!!
Just curious what are you going to get after you sell your VP9?
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I bought a Bul Armory Axe Cleaver FS (g17 gen3 upgraded clone). 1911 grip style, agressive at corner, low on hand, Glock parts if needed, excellent trigger, recoil notably less. No noticeable defects for me. This is the first time that a gun does not bother me in one way or another (out of about twenty used). However I have only had it for a few months, it is to be confirmed in time.
@@ianschroder I’ve just learned about Bul Armory and want to pick up one of their guns eventually - really liked their 1911’s!!! I did pick up a couple of their knives (Bul Blades)
You already sold your VP9? Ugh, I would have bought it from you. I love that gun and am looking for a used one to modify the hell out of it.
I have them both and they are both great pistols. Both are great shooters.👍
They are both excellent pistols. The B variant of the VP9 is super nice.
Two other guns that should be considered is the latest variant of the M&P2.0 and the Walther PDP which I honestly think is the best of the lot. The only down side of the VP9 is the trigger. I'm not talking the trigger pull which is great I'm talking the physical plastic trigger which will rub your finger raw after a bit of shooting. Also. the trigger guard is indented under the trigger for clearance purposes. The issue there is the angle of the trigger causes your finger to drop lower while firing and you find your trigger finger getting pinched between the trigger and indented area at the bottom of the trigger guard. the larger back straps exacerbate the problem.
I own both the VP9 and P320AXG. Both are fantastic in their own right, so it’s difficult to choose one over the other. My only complaint for the VP9 is the hump on the back strap, even when using the small back strap. I can’t see parting with either pistol.
Agree!! I plan on keeping both as well! One for my daughter and one for my son! Thank you for watching!!
Not difficult at all! HK. Sig is trash.
I had problems with my Sig Sauer P365XL, so not an Sig fan. I like my Glocks, but bought an H & K VP9 SK and thinks it is a great gun.
I would pick the h&k because my wife is right handed and I'm a lefty we can use it. The pistols are mine they are set up for me. I have a PPQ because I always want one before they stop making them.
Same here - wife righty me lefty. HK is, I think, the best at making truly ambi guns! Thanks for watching!!
that all metal grip module is beautiful wow
Thanks for watching!!!
I cycle the HK VP9SK and Sig M18 (320) as my EDC. They are both fantastic. HK has a slight edge on round cycling.
Love the modularity of the Sig but that HK is hard to beat. Thanks so much for watching!
Vee machts zem gut in Deutschland, eh Heiny? Thanks for this. Great to see the interchangeability of the P320. However you had me with the VP9.
In my opinion H&K not even a competition.. All the issues with the p320s going off by themselves. I wanna like em.. I actually liked em alot, had a cpl of em but was scared to appendix carry it.. I'll stick with my VP9.
Helpful info, thanks
Nice video. I love both as well.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for watching!!!
just love my H&k vp9 , use it for competition shooting , works great. did add a recoil reduction spring , takes quite a bit of the snappiness out of it.
what kind of recoil spring/where did you buy it?
DMP recoil reduction system , it replaces the normal guide rod with a multiple spring system. over here almost every gunshop has them. ( the Netherlands)
@@johanbruinsma8243can confirm these things work. I have a DPM in my vp9 and the impulse is different. These things were made to run with comps so I added a Zev comp to mine and it's almost like shooting a 22
@@christ.5258 Thatsgood and interesting information. I have a VP 9 and will look into purchasing the DPM and Zev comp. Thank youChris and John.
The Honest Outlaw channel listed the P320 one of the top 10 more unreliable pistols.
I saw that!!! he's definitely not a fan of the 320!!! Love his channel!! THANK YOU for watching mine also!!
I carry the 320 on duty. I am not a fan. The VP9 is just really a better gun. SIG has been pushing questionable designs after the 229. The metal SIGs? Awesome. The plastics? Not a fan at all.
I'm a vp9 fan. I like everything about it but the looks. Still not as ugly as a glock though.
I actually think the VP9 is a sweet looking gun. Def better looking than the glock!! (: THANKS for watching!!!!
I own multiple HK pistols, I can't complain about their reliability or durability, but for the money the triggers on their SA/DA guns sure could be better. I do own and carry a VP9sk and do so with complete confidence.
I think that VP9 trigger is miles better than the P30 triggers (I also own both). THANk YOU for watching!!
Yeah, those hammer fired. HK’s are straight up combat pistols are basically the opposite of competition pistols. Usually the better of trigger feels a little less reliable. It is in the most reliable triggers are usually not the cleanest brakes are the best feeling triggers……. Kind of like how the smoothies driving cars are not very good at going off road and vice versa.
I sold my sig p320 x carry compact. I purchased a fn 509 midsize and compact. Couldn’t trust the sig anymore.
VP9 all the way. Nothing is more ergonomic in the hand in my opinion. It is just built better as well....look at the guide rails on the VP9 compared to the tiny ones on the Sig....which one gives you more confidence longevity wise? I also don't feel very comfortable that the entire firing control group on the P320 is held in to the frame entirely by just one pin. I understand they did that in order to make it modular per the US Army, however, Beretta followed the same requirements with their APX yet they came up with a much stronger and more secure solution. In all honesty - and this is just my opinion - but the P320 is vastly inferior to not only the VP9, but the Beretta APX as well. And yes, I have personal experience with all three of those guns. I enjoyed the video.
All very good points!! I’m going tot have to check out that APX - don’t know much about it at all!! THANK YOU so much for watching!!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy The Honest Outlaw has a video comparing the APX and the M18 (P320). Although he has the Centurion model and not the full size APX, he was still able to shoot it faster and more accurately than the P320. I think you will also be surprised to find out that you can buy a new APX for right around 400 dollars. Incredible value.
many companys make replacement grip modules from Plastic to Metal.
Thank you excellent video
You made my day!! Thank you for the kind words - AND for watching!!
No VP9 ever fired from a muzzle drop or self discharged in anyone's holster.
True! Thanks so much for watching!
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gooder fits, and we all understand you, sir.
Thank YOU for understanding and for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy You're welcome, hello from the People Democratic Republic of Crook County, Illinois.
My brother has the VP9. My buddy a 320. I'd take the VP9 over the P320 all day long. I like the modularity of the P320 though.
I own the HK vp9sk, love that pistol
The ergonomics are just perfect I think!!! Thanks so much for watching!!
I have both guns and dozens of others. The only issue I have with a VP9 the finger group is don't fit my fingers very well and I can't do anything about that. The finger grease on my combat masterpiece Smith and western fit great as you the finger cruise on most other guns. Even my subcompact mouse guns. All the two fingers go on them. That's fine. It's just those finger groups on that BP9 just don't want it very well with my hands and my hands aren't that big.
I learned something about the Sig 320 today. Those are some very nice features. I have a VP9 as an EDC, but didn't realize you can replace the long slide on it. I think I know what I'll be getting next. :). BTW, I agree, this was a more than fair comparison. I See so many Black boys trying to compare the VP9 with a 17, or 19 and I'm sorry...there is no comparison. The VP9 is far better. I do like Sig's too, having owned a few of them. I consider it on par with HK.
you're right the vp9 does not compare to the glock 19 or glock 17, it has more parts, mags are more money, its heavier, the barrel is shorter than the g17 yet its heavier, limited aftermarket sights.
More reliable, doesn't explode....lol
Tengo una HK VP9 y es simplemente fantástica, ergonomía superior a cualquier otra, el disparador o gatillo es muy bueno, la precisión también es de un nivel superior y la calidad que obtienes es simplemente increíble
Last comment , if your not wanting either of these due to price , for the love of The Queen and the Continental Congress , before you buy a Glock , try a , or just buy a Steyr , most underrated poly striker pistol of all times , low bore axis , incredible price , yeah the Steyr is nasty .
I want a Steyr!!!! Never see them. Ever. Very good call out.
VP9 all the way, because it only fires when the trigger is pulled.
But so does the 320 so what's your point
@@flake3299 Clearly my joke went over your head.
Which sight setup do you have on the VP9? Those aren’t the standard luminescent sights that come on the VP9.
Think mine is the “night sights” version - also came with 3 mags vs standard two. Would highly recommend if you can find one. THANK YOU for watching!!
I had the same question. I have a VP9 and a VP9SK. Both have three dot night sights. It would be nice, when making direct comparison of features to be more clear, that both guns can be had with similar sights. I have never fired the P320. But I love my VP9 pistols. Not sure what people mean when they say it is ugly. I think it looks fantastic.
@@burnetthopkins9583 agreed - the VP9 is a very good looking gun / don’t understand the haters at all. Thanks for the feedback and for watching !!!
@@burnetthopkins9583 VP9 is way better looking than a Glock. Glocks are hideous, and people go crazy for them.
The Hk is the “snap on tool” of pistols, while the polymer Sigs are the “Harbor Freight tool” of pistols. There’s no comparison. I wouldn’t even issue the enemy an Sig M17/M18.
I like most guns. Some of them, like Glock, don't really appeal to me, simply because of ergonomics, but that's not meant to take anything away from their quality, effectiveness of the weapon, or even their fan base for that matter. With that said, as far as striker fired guns go, H&K is my favorite. I also like Walther very well, but overall, for me, my H&K VP9 is the best shooting pistol I have.
Whichever weapon/brand you choose, just make sure it works for you, and pray that you never have to use it on another human. God bless.
I don't trust Sig. And the only H&K I've ever owned, I truly regret getting rid of. Was a USP 45. I'm a Walther fan. Have a PPQ and a PDP. But I also own a hellcat and hellcat pro and a glock 19 and a 17.
If I were to buy either of these 2, it would probably be the h&k.
How would you rank the VP9 against the p320 x-5 legion?
I love my p320, I shot so much better with it than the VP9. It's nice to see someone else struggle pulling that takedown lever out... I thought it was just me.
Idk. Sig is being sued over 320 design flaws. Reports of the firearm shooting on its own while holstered. Love my Walther PDP Pro. Wouldn't buy a 320 until an investigation is complete.
I need to get a PDP one day!!! Thank you for watching!!!
These reports are all operator error. I have carried this gun for 2 years and 1000s of hours. I have done all sorts of physical activities with its IWB. Has never gone off, and it never will.
No way am i gpong with the sig 320. I really dig the vp9, and hks in general, and hammer fired at that
Thank you so much for watching!
Hk but that Sig transformation at end 😮
What holster do you use for the P320? I'm planning on helping my dad build one out, but I'm afraid I can't find the right holster.
I carry the P320 as X-Compact and use a Hidden Hybrid holster for it. Like it very much. I also sometimes carry the VP9 and I use a CrossBreed holster for that. Actually did a video on that recently. Also did one on Hidden Hybrid a while back. Will try to remember to post the links here. THANK YOU for watching!
How do you compare the Canik mete SF to this two?
I got both and love both
I'm a big SW, HK fan. You can keep the Sig 320s! The only good Sig is the 226.
220,225-229. you forgot a bunch,.... p365,p238. The 320 is good, they worked out the kinks. the 320compact in 45acp is awesome. m&p on the other hand👎
BRAVOOOOOO... Sig. ❤❤
Sig 320: you’ll shoot your eye out kid!
Between the two, I'd go with the SIG. Vp9 is not bad but clearly more snappy. Just my opinion. Both are fine handguns
Sig is a lot of fun for me. Like Lego’s for big kids!!! THANKS FOR WATCHING!!
I had H&K, Sig, Glock and XD, my vote go to XD, because XD has some safety features that the other 3 do not have: Loading chamber indicator, Slide rack indicator, Grip safety, Trigger safety. Tell me what pistol have all 4 safeties feature. And remember, it’s the Indian not the arrow.
BTW, skip the first 4 minutes blah blah blah of this video.
Guessing trigger weight, hmmm, because trigger gauge is couple thousand dollars ???? I bought the Wheeler trigger gauge less than 10 buck , 20 years ago and still using it now, today price is about 2O buck, please buy the trigger gauge and review the pistol with the measure trigger weight.
Talking of modulization and did not talk how much for a new slide and frame is a …. I think i am a victim of pistol modulization, the whole pistol is $700, the new frame and new slide is $550 Heck, with $150 more I can have two pistols.
Both fine firearms but I prefer sig
Then you don’t know enough about either firearm. HK is vastly superior and the Sig is junk. Facts.
which would you recommend for a beginner?
VP 9. It’s just pretty much perfect right out of the box. P320 is better to play /build different things out of. VP9 for sure.
Thank you for watching!!
Answer this question and you'll have the answer.... What Brand, and even getting more specific what pistol has had recalls??
Glock!? Oh…no. (:
Very good point. Thank you for watching!!!
Any gun that goes off with out pulling the trigger is crap. If you trust it better you than me.
Personallu ill take the grayguns modded p30 lem and my p30 ls and an old school usp
That said sig 1911 scorpion and p220 can ru i just adore and have ansog 250 and want a sig p229 so bad
Modern hammer hk vs sig comparison?
LOVE it. Have added it to my list. Thank you for the idea AND for watching!
Those are my 2 favorite brands and i own several of each. However HK fanboys are the most annoying of any brand. I love their products but not their typical fans. Cant go wrong with either brand.
are both equally easy to mantain?
Both incredibly easy to maintain
The H&K P7 was the best pistol ever!
Yea but those gonna run you like 4k$ 😅
Sig 226 family is great. 320 there are better striker fired options.
Which model of p320 is that model?
That is the full size P320. It started as a P320 XCompact but for this I have the grip module in a full size conversion kit.
THANK YOU for watching!!!
the only drawback for me with the VP9 is the nightmare to completely strip down for deep cleaning. you need a lot of room to gather all the damn parts. glock is the simplest design with sig coming in second.
And for me, that’s exactly why I didn’t get the vp9.
The Smith is as easy as a Glock and really just a better gun. I'm an armored for Glock? Sig and S&W. The Smith is the best designed of the three and they has a lifetime warranty. They also are the most reasonably priced. It would be nice if people would buy an American owned product.
Sorry about the typos
HK doesn’t want you stripping it all the way down for deep cleaning if you’re not a trained armorer, and it really isn’t necessary all that much. It’s not a drawback. Just shoot it!
The Sig is not a simple design. It’s a stupid design! Best to stay away from it and run proven guns like Glock and HK.
HK is supreme!!!
I have p220 legion 45.acp and p320 xten👍👍👍👍
I want that Legion!!! Is your me DA/SA or Single Action Only?
Thank you for watching!!!
Never heard anyone say a 9mm is snappy lol. I have a VP40 with a 357sig barrel. It's a little snappy but it's alot more gun than a 9mm.
People who say the 9mm is snappy have never fired a 357 magnum in a snub nose or Glock 29 10mm, lol
HyK vp 9 and .40 are the best hand gun
I like hammers but man the VP9 is hard to beat. Thanks for watching!
vp40 is as heavy as a glock 20 why not just get 10mm. 40 is attractive in 9mm size guns.
I like FN more than HK or Sig.
I need to learn more about FN's. Have just never had chance to even fire one. Which one do you like/reccommend if I try to pick one up?
Also, thanks for watching!!
Vp9 no doubt
SUPER HK. ❤❤
VP9, just because the other is a SIG.
Ha!! Fair enough! Thanks for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I should REPHRASE. Because it's a SIG P320, I have no issue with previous SIGs. I have owned a P228 for a very long time.
Ok , actual , last comment , or , buy a Colt 1911 Commander , it’s a Glock , but for Men.
I love ALL the comments!! Thank you so much for watching!!
I own both who needs Glock crap ?
Ha!! I’m sure they are good guns I’ve just never been motivated to pick one up. Have shot a few and they seem fine - just nothing all that special to my untrained eyes anyway!! THANK YOU for watching!!
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I don't think I want a Sig Sauer p320 boom box. Seventy plus lawsuits , on possible manufacture of negligent discharges on it's own.
One will kill its owner
One will protect it's owner
HK VP9 wins
If the owner is an idiot.
I wouldn’t buy anything by Sig USA 👎🏼
Hk way more reliable
HK VP9 can not beat it, and it does not fore when dropped.....
Just buy Glock perfection, great price and reliability. Number one gun world wide.
If you're saying Glock is the top selling handgun in the world, you're right. McDonalds sells the most hamburgers in the world, but they're not the best
HK > whatever