Usually, when there's a skeleton crew on a ship with cutting edge tech on the way to somewhere else where the "big mission" will start, something happens before they get there.
It's boring, but frankly a show tasked in early Federation history should start calmly, slowly, develop characters, paint some pictures, announce a mission and leave port like a sailing ship with canvas and anchors headed to the English Channel. Not fall into immediate crisis, enemies, bizarre astro phenomena, all the terrible tropes typically used these days by Hollywood executives. Let spectators sit back, relax, enjoy and feel the experience of being there in the magic of unknown space. 😊 Give them Warp One to Pluto and back home to update software, a new engine upgrade to Warp Two, fix the toilets, better window blinds, a hydroponics lab, then on to do mission two, Centauri Prime. Also make sure this damn Autocorrect no longer exist even in a museum. Go slow, enjoy the slowly quickening plot direction. Enjoy the inside of the ship, it's crew conversations, it's old fashioned meals and first terrible instant food makers. But please God get rid of Bridge buttons. That is the most retarded concept in space scifi. And no more rehashed plot cliches or foreshadowing. If you have that kind of Star Trek imagination then you're the kind of 23rd century person who still thinks driving a fossil fuel truck is sensible. Or six shooters are needed. 😮😮😢
I remember when it came out, and sharing it with my classmates in high school. Side note: the school was located next door to the defense contractor offices that served as the exterior scenes in the episode Operation Annihilate
I'd love to see a feature Film set in this iteration of Star Trek. "Oh My God! you want to all those cheesy, cheap set designs and hokey looking ships!? Yeah I'd watch the hell out of that!
The whole arc is in order below. I plan on periodically adding episodes in the time line… 😃🖖 ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=P_qbSzbwafk6g_wt
LOVE THIS! Franz Joseph Star Trek is FAR more "canon" than anything the majors have made in the last 25 years at least. Looking forward to more of this story!
You know…. Keeping the mission secret from the crew goes against the ship’s computer’s prime function, to provide them with factual data. Better hope it’s not a HAL 9000 model…
Kurtzman doesn’t want to admit that this is what the fans wanted and this is what would’ve brought back Star Trek…money and paramount wanting to make money is what brought out Discovery and Kurtzman’s ego won’t let him admit that the power of Star Trek and even Star Wars comes from nostalgia not just borrowing from the past and remaking it in your image. Ira didn’t do that with DS9, he just created something new and connected it to TNG. Kurtzman was suppose to connect Discovery to the “Cagel era and instead recreated shit for a generation that doesn’t know Star Trek or gives a damn about it. Discovery sucks and I only appreciate SNW because Aston Mount is a great Pike. Lower Decks was great because it was set in the TNG era and it was also a whacky adorable cartoon show and Picard season 3 was the best thing that happened since the end of Voyager cause Nemsis was a terrible movie and Enterprise was slept on due to the damage Nemesis caused. But the lame ass Kelvin Timeline movies and Discovery shows how money will always win over principle and truth. I’ll take this, Axanar all day everyday. 🖖🏾
I thought Voyager was good at the start, but got turned off of the series when one of the episodes was a blatant rip-off of Flight of the Phoenix and Lifeboat at the same time. I grew up watching TOS and Next Gen, and DS9 definitely made their own space in the Star Trek universe... can't really say much about any of the shows after that though.
Those three ships are very tightly packed in the pods, I think I could squeeze a Scout, Constitution, and Cargo ship in there as is, but VERY tight. That particular pod the Adventure exits has a smaller interior. I figured each pod might have a different purpose. The one shown in the TM had three ships, but I figured they might have a pod designed for just one ship for quicker repairs/ refit. I might experiment and actually try to cram three ships in… Easy fix, I can just scale up the base next time. 😃👍🖖
lol.. whut? We put seams and “greebles” on starships to make them look real and give a sense of scale. You can barely see the seams on modern container ships.. and they are built with arc welding and no concern about how it looks finished. Surely in an era of replicators and transporters and phasers they can weld by “rematerialization” (a fraction of the energy cost of full replication) leaving no seams at all. Even today you can weld and with enough grinding, filler, and sanding you can’t see any panel lines.
Windows in the main saucer would not happen because of the internal layout… The top and bottom spheres might just be sensors, storage, fabricating area, etc. And the pods are focused on the inside for ship repairs and such. I tried to keep it pretty close to the original artwork in the Starfleet Technical Manual…
@@calvinnickel9995 Apparently so in the design. A utilitarian sacrilege, but fits with the utopian TOS vibe. Probably a beautiful place to live and work in… 😃🖖
Ha! Yes, indeed! In my backstory, the captain’s father and grandfather are Starfleet admirals… They micromanage his career and life and he just wants to get out from under them… He loves Starfleet, and this mission was an opportunity to do what he loves outside their influence. So volunteering can be a good thing if it gets you what you want… 😀
@@bobfischer That's a very thorough and sensible idea to have a backstory, especially for the main character. It helps with development, consistency, and believability. Good move.
I worked with a guy who was in the military. His CO once asked his company "is there anyone who can handle a typewriter?" Knowing how to type, he thought it was an easy job so volunteered. He had to unload a truck full of typewriters.
Just checked out the list of your other vids on your channel. SUBBED! I've been a fan of Star Trek TOS and the Franz Joseph materials since I was a kid in 77. Looking forward to explore more of your work and hear/see more of this story. Grazie mille!!!!!
A two-year mission of exploration sounds about right for this small class of vessels. Endurance can only go so long with supplies and the single warp-drive propulsion. That is why progressively newer designs had larger dimensions creeping into their specifications.
I definitely like the shape of the space station; it really looks like TOS style. The Adventurer, however, is too much like a frying pan to be taken seriously.
Both the station and the Scout/Destroyer Class were both depicted in the 70’s The Star Trek Technical Manual by Franz Joseph. He was trying to fill in the TOS universe by extrapolating what was on screen. Some of us grew up in that 70s Trek scene and have a fond recollection of those designs… Not for everybody, but for TOS fans that wanted more Trek in the 70s, that Technical Manual was a gift from the Trek gods… 😃🖖
N , C , C ~ 1986 ! with Two Warp Nacelle s 40 Second s ! SO do the UPGarde ' s on a Starship with ONLY One Nacelle SORRY WHY , everything else Was Great You and your team put in alot of hard work so THANK YOU ;
There is more in the Adventure series. Here: ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=ZsBe3pJPDdyXGc_e But the back story: This scout has an experimental prototype engine. It did its job of testing it out and was mothballed. Then an emergency mission comes up where they need a super fast ship and one that will not be noticed if it disappeared on a long mission. So they upgraded it for the long mission and sent it out. Really, all just an excuse to play in the Trek universe… 😃🖖
This is fantastic. Very (!) faithful to the aesthetic and design from TOS. However... I think you need to upscale the station. The ST: Technical Manual has the outer pods in the ring each holding 3 starships of varying size all at once. Otherwise, this is gorgeous!
I actually fitted the ship in there and I think I could fit three ships in a pod, but really tight just like the Manual. But the pod I showed had a small interior, made to expedite refit/repairs on just one ship… My project here is more about aesthetics and story, the models not up to schematic standards and not detailed to modern standards… Just having Trek fun… 😃🖖
Franz Joseph created the Scout Class design in the 70’s, way before First Contact and the Cochrane warp drive depicted in that movie. Joseph just extrapolated from TOS and tried to fill in the history, beliefs, and types of ships not shown in TOS. Between TAS and the movies, dark times for Trek fans, The Technical Manual (TTM ) was a ray of hope and joy for Trek fans wanting more Trek. If you grew up with TTM, there is a special place in our Trek hearts for those designs… 🖖
All the rules around warp drive having nacelle pairs were made because Roddenberry didn't want to pay Fran Joseph, the TOS technical manual's writer, royalties for his designs. Franz Joseph wrote the manual during the lull between TOS and TNG and the TOS/TMP movies in the 80s. He showed it to Roddenberry at a convention and impressed him, getting permission to publish and sell it as an officially licensed product. Once the 80s rolled around, Roddenberry had new Star Trek projects coming in; and threw all that out due to some combination of not wanting to owe royalties to anyone and having new ideas which disagreed with it.
@@bobfischer Still, since the Cochrane design "retcon," if you will, the noodle can't wrap around it. Before all the tech manuals, it was somebody pushes a button, magic happens, spaceship goes really fast.
Well, C.R. 2000: if you had been born before the Tech Manual, and supplements were written, YOU would have found out, a Single Warp Nacelle, was for Basic Power, the SECOND, was for Backup, or extra, and the 3rd, and 4th, were for Battle Ships, for OVERKILL !!
Great start to a new adventure. However I was wondering. When the crew boarded her, did they all needed to lay down first? It seems you enter the ship sideways lol!
According to the Technical Manual, there is no gravity in the pods. Therefore the ships artificial gravity would be in effect. The Headquarters does not spin for artificial gravity, it has artificial gravity plates as well… So there would be a point where crew members would have to change their orientation as they enter the pod and the ship… I know there’s a guy who will eventually model the entire exterior and interior of the Headquarters in perfect scale… I’ll leave it to him to figure out exactly how that works… 😛🖖
@@bobfischer Yup, on the station, the core gravity is up/down. The people boarding the ship would be reoriented either by the transporter or on the shuttle pod.
There is a whole Adventure series already posted, if you have not seen it it is here: ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=n1ENlGQF4NEFX_fH I do plan to do some more TOS themed productions including some more Adventure episodes… 😀🖖
Liked everything except the flash as the ship went to warp. That was never on the TOS episodes. It seems cliche now. It's a small thing, but there it is.
True. No flash in TOS. I do not think they ever showed an external shot of the ship going into or out of warp… So who’s to say there was or was not a flash? 😛 I think the flash adds a sense that the ship has left or entered normal space… All art is illusion, so just trying to use methods to paint that picture so the viewer can experience that illusion… Anyway, LLAP 😃🖖
It takes about 10-24 hours to render 20 seconds as it is now (and I have a maxed out MacMini)… 😛 I do not have the warehouse full of computers to render in any kind of timely manner. Then UA-cam compresses what I do send to make it what it is there… So, I just have to work within my limitations… But it’s all good because it contributes to that classic 60’s vibe I was going for… 😀🖖
Love the Scout! Very happy to see Starfleet Command, but shouldn’t it be rotating? The old Tech manual strongly implied it rotated to simulate gravity.
I saw a video commentary which said it should be rotating as well. But if you look back at the Technical Manual you will see that is impossible. The inside of the station is divided into six sections, oriented so the “floor” is on the periphery of the disk, as would be in a centrifugal artificial gravity scenario. But each section has a flat foundation, and where they meet there is quite an angle. It was also specifically stated there was no gravity in the pods… So apparently each section has artificial gravity, and the pods none. But all is my interpretation as I try to make very incomplete and sometimes vague plans into something that might look “real”… At least in the TOS universe… 😃🖖
Well, it's SO Wonderful to see commenters, who are SO PETTY, they think THEY have eyes that can see weld lines 1/4 inch wide, from a ship 500 feet, or more away, with the light from a star, a few Million miles away !! Nice to meet you "Optical Eagles"! Please Report to Starfleet Command, to serve as trackers, when THEY, become REALITY!! Tell them I Recommended You !
To be fair, it is true that the more details and “greebles” the more the illusion of scale. But I purposely want to keep the general TOS aesthetic. I actually do texture the surfaces, but very toned down except where the story might call for damage or such… All good, my videos are “art” in that they are my peculiar vision of Trek, focusing on the 60’s and 70’s TOS… Not for everyone… 😃🖖
The whole arc is below. I plan on periodically adding episodes in the time line… 😃🖖 ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=P_qbSzbwafk6g_wt
@@bobfischer hope a small criticism in no way takes away from a fun and well done film . Thank you for the interesting work, enjoyed and will be passed along to others...
Agreed. This is the Star Trek we should have gotten. Paramount doesn't care. It's just a money making commodity like everything else in Hollywood. Great entertainment is only ever going to come from true fan productions.
I could definitely mix the music further down and I might in the future depending on the needs of the piece I am doing. But I wanted to have control of the music and do it myself. I like ELP, prog rock and such, so the synth sound fits with that aesthetic. If I had a choice of listening to the philharmonic do a classical piece, or ELP I would choose the latter… That being said, when you hear the distorted lead guitar that is an actual electric guitar I’m playing… 😃 If I was doing this to make money and wanted to appeal to the common taste and had the financial resources to hire a classical orchestra, of course that would be the way to go… But I’m not… Anyway, all subjective aesthetics… 😃🖖 P.S. Here is my music project to give you an idea where I am coming from… 😃 www.thestardreamerprojecthome.com
Musical taste is subjective, that much is true. That being said, the music in my videos is not generic Trek music copied off the Internet, or prefabricated loops stitched in an editor, or pumped out of an AI music generator. I wrote and produced all the music myself, actually playing keyboards, guitars, and drums. I did that so I could create my own mood and sound environment for this series… So, the soundtrack might be awful, but it is the product of a creative process and does exactly what I designed it to do… To each their own… 😃🖖
I think Trek always had social messaging. Gene Roddenbury liked the sci-fi format because he could address social/political issues and get it through the censors. He addressed racism, class oppression, the Vietnam War, birth control, religious zealotry, and a host of other issues. The difference I believe is that in TOS equality issues were addressed by normalizing them. So it was normal for a black female to be an officer in a command position, normal for an Asian to be a bridge officer, it was normal for a black man to be an admiral. They did not focus on these realities, just made them a normal part of 23rd Century life. Some new Trek does have a tendency to put some equality issues way out in front. I would feel better about the normalization approach, but I just try to enjoy Trek in all its forms. That being said, New Trek I can watch once, enjoy it, then over it. But TOS I can watch over and over again. It might be TOS was a formative experience of my youth and so I have a special relationship with it… In any case, my imagination lives in TOS, and that is what I plan to explore with these videos… 😃🖖
I do not have a team of animators or a room full of computers to render out the animation. I am teaching myself animation as I go and It is definitely not pro quality. It is just for people that might like some classic TOS era Trek… At least 300+ subscribers appreciate the effort… In terms of the music, that is a matter of taste. Some here like it… But perhaps I need some standard of quality for reference. So send some links to your animation and/or music and I’ll have a better idea of where I need to improve… In the end, art is subjective. But it does seem to take less effort to be a critic than a creator…
@@bobfischer You want to meet up? Going to pull that show me your own animation and music BS? How old are you? 12? Its lame. You put it out there, expect some feedback or turn your comments off, cry baby!
@@Frankenstein-1 I see you are a Pink Floyd fan, I am more into ELP. Just a matter of taste. Regarding the music, at least I do not just copy past generic Trek music, or edit a bunch of prefabricated loops, or use AI to fill in as is common now with all the popular music. I write and produce all that music myself. I actually use an 88 key Korg Triton Extreme like Emerson had for live performance. I also play guitar, bass, and drums myself on those tracks… Music is a like any art a subjective experience. But if you are going to critique at least do it constructively and intelligently. Did you not like the individual sounds? Was the tempo off? Were there discordant notes? Was the mix off in some specific way? If you could send a link to music you have produced, I might have a higher standard I can work towards… 🖖
LOOOOOVE the old designs; the clean lines, the porcelain-pure hulls. So wonderful.
I love that the HQ ship bay was faithful to the old designs with the scout departing up instead of off the side. Lots of details were well studied!
Thank You ;
This is the first video that accurately depicts the relative size of the shuttle compared to the ship.
Usually, when there's a skeleton crew on a ship with cutting edge tech on the way to somewhere else where the "big mission" will start, something happens before they get there.
I was sort of thinking that… 😃 A reason to have another episode in Federation space…😁
It's boring, but frankly a show tasked in early Federation history should start calmly, slowly, develop characters, paint some pictures, announce a mission and leave port like a sailing ship with canvas and anchors headed to the English Channel. Not fall into immediate crisis, enemies, bizarre astro phenomena, all the terrible tropes typically used these days by Hollywood executives. Let spectators sit back, relax, enjoy and feel the experience of being there in the magic of unknown space. 😊
Give them Warp One to Pluto and back home to update software, a new engine upgrade to Warp Two, fix the toilets, better window blinds, a hydroponics lab, then on to do mission two, Centauri Prime. Also make sure this damn Autocorrect no longer exist even in a museum.
Go slow, enjoy the slowly quickening plot direction. Enjoy the inside of the ship, it's crew conversations, it's old fashioned meals and first terrible instant food makers. But please God get rid of Bridge buttons. That is the most retarded concept in space scifi. And no more rehashed plot cliches or foreshadowing.
If you have that kind of Star Trek imagination then you're the kind of 23rd century person who still thinks driving a fossil fuel truck is sensible. Or six shooters are needed. 😮😮😢
Impressive. Loving the 60's style designs. THIS is what Trek should look like.
I hope this ship gets a doctor who doesn't constantly have to remind everyone what jobs they don't have.
Very nice to see you being faithful to the original designs. This looks great!
Right out of the Star Fleet Technical Manual....
Yep. Have my well worn copy right here.
I remember when it came out, and sharing it with my classmates in high school.
Side note: the school was located next door to the defense contractor offices that served as the exterior scenes in the episode Operation Annihilate
I recognized the Franz Joseph design right away. I've had the technical manual since 1975. Nice work!
This is Fantastic !
So well done .
I'd love to see a feature Film set in this iteration of Star Trek. "Oh My God! you want to all those cheesy, cheap set designs and hokey looking ships!? Yeah I'd watch the hell out of that!
And smooth forehead Klingons.
I always loved the Saladin class!
Scouts were the Hermes class, basically same as Saladin but less weaponry, more labs.
I like it! Hope you create more.
Just as my imagination begun to see what this ship may find, the video ends. 😔
The whole arc is in order below. I plan on periodically adding episodes in the time line… 😃🖖
ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=P_qbSzbwafk6g_wt
Well done.
LOVE THIS! Franz Joseph Star Trek is FAR more "canon" than anything the majors have made in the last 25 years at least.
Looking forward to more of this story!
You know….
Keeping the mission secret from the crew goes against the ship’s computer’s prime function, to provide them with factual data.
Better hope it’s not a HAL 9000 model…
Oh, that’s just crazy talk! What’s the worst that could happen?
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IKR!!!
Open the pod bay doors.
Hello, open the pod bay doors, please ...
It was a bargain! Only one previous owner. Rumor is, the guy went crazy and thought the '9000 was trying to kill him.
Maybe, but there is historical precedent.
Gonna be fine. Just make sure you avoid going on eva's or be in any circumstances where the computer can cut off oxygen supply.
And we went there,to that place you would go if you were going there....!
That needs to be on a starship dedication plaque.🤣🖖
I present the pizza cutter class USS Adventure
You’ve piqued my curiosity enough that I’ve subscribed. I like your video.
Me too, just subbed 👌
VERY well done, Mr. Fischer....this is TRUE Star Trek...
Kurtzman doesn’t want to admit that this is what the fans wanted and this is what would’ve brought back Star Trek…money and paramount wanting to make money is what brought out Discovery and Kurtzman’s ego won’t let him admit that the power of Star Trek and even Star Wars comes from nostalgia not just borrowing from the past and remaking it in your image. Ira didn’t do that with DS9, he just created something new and connected it to TNG. Kurtzman was suppose to connect Discovery to the “Cagel era and instead recreated shit for a generation that doesn’t know Star Trek or gives a damn about it. Discovery sucks and I only appreciate SNW because Aston Mount is a great Pike. Lower Decks was great because it was set in the TNG era and it was also a whacky adorable cartoon show and Picard season 3 was the best thing that happened since the end of Voyager cause Nemsis was a terrible movie and Enterprise was slept on due to the damage Nemesis caused. But the lame ass Kelvin Timeline movies and Discovery shows how money will always win over principle and truth. I’ll take this, Axanar all day everyday. 🖖🏾
I thought Voyager was good at the start, but got turned off of the series when one of the episodes was a blatant rip-off of Flight of the Phoenix and Lifeboat at the same time. I grew up watching TOS and Next Gen, and DS9 definitely made their own space in the Star Trek universe... can't really say much about any of the shows after that though.
The side pods or the star base are supposed to be large enough to accommodate 3 ships.
Other than that very petty gripe, well done.
Those three ships are very tightly packed in the pods, I think I could squeeze a Scout, Constitution, and Cargo ship in there as is, but VERY tight. That particular pod the Adventure exits has a smaller interior. I figured each pod might have a different purpose. The one shown in the TM had three ships, but I figured they might have a pod designed for just one ship for quicker repairs/ refit.
I might experiment and actually try to cram three ships in… Easy fix, I can just scale up the base next time.
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Yes, the Starbase is too small, and the doors opened on the outside of the station, not the top.
@@bobfischer Yup, they're a tight fit. I had fun cramming 3 ships into the station I built. Take a look and have a laugh.
@@sabrewolf4129 I'm pretty sure the doors in the tech manual were top&bottom
@@magellanthecat Nope, they were on the outside and opened outwards
Really good quality video . Looking forward to the story, even if the ship looks like a lollipop 😊
A hull that large with absolutely no seams? Very implausible, if not impossible.
lol.. whut?
We put seams and “greebles” on starships to make them look real and give a sense of scale.
You can barely see the seams on modern container ships.. and they are built with arc welding and no concern about how it looks finished. Surely in an era of replicators and transporters and phasers they can weld by “rematerialization” (a fraction of the energy cost of full replication) leaving no seams at all. Even today you can weld and with enough grinding, filler, and sanding you can’t see any panel lines.
I was going for the general TOS aesthetic… The models are not that detailed, but enough to get the story or point across… 😀
Love seeing the classic F.J. designs.
I as well. Far more "canon" than anything the majors have produced in over 25 years (though independents have kept the Spirit of Star Trek alive).
The ship has windows but Starfleet headquarters has none?
Windows in the main saucer would not happen because of the internal layout… The top and bottom spheres might just be sensors, storage, fabricating area, etc. And the pods are focused on the inside for ship repairs and such. I tried to keep it pretty close to the original artwork in the Starfleet Technical Manual…
Most of Starfleet Headquarters is simulated “sky”.
@@calvinnickel9995 Apparently so in the design. A utilitarian sacrilege, but fits with the utopian TOS vibe. Probably a beautiful place to live and work in… 😃🖖
Very nice work. Thanks for sharing this with us. 😊
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Hasn't anyone ever told you not to volunteer for anything unless ordered to do so?
--Live Long & Prosper 🖖🏻 👽 🛸 ✨️
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Ha! Yes, indeed! In my backstory, the captain’s father and grandfather are Starfleet admirals… They micromanage his career and life and he just wants to get out from under them… He loves Starfleet, and this mission was an opportunity to do what he loves outside their influence.
So volunteering can be a good thing if it gets you what you want… 😀
@@bobfischer That's a very thorough and sensible idea to have a backstory, especially for the main character. It helps with development, consistency, and believability. Good move.
I worked with a guy who was in the military. His CO once asked his company "is there anyone who can handle a typewriter?" Knowing how to type, he thought it was an easy job so volunteered.
He had to unload a truck full of typewriters.
It's the good starship Lollipop.
Outstanding!
Just checked out the list of your other vids on your channel. SUBBED! I've been a fan of Star Trek TOS and the Franz Joseph materials since I was a kid in 77. Looking forward to explore more of your work and hear/see more of this story. Grazie mille!!!!!
The bay doors slide open to reveal USB ports.
I am intrigued. 🖖
That's an older version of a starbase with Little ships inside.
The design is from the Star Fleet Technical Manual published in the 70’s… 😀🖖
Nice reveal of the Hetmes class Scout!
A two-year mission of exploration sounds about right for this small class of vessels. Endurance can only go so long with supplies and the single warp-drive propulsion. That is why progressively newer designs had larger dimensions creeping into their specifications.
I had always wondered where the shuttle bays were. Added worker bees (construction / maintenance) was an inspiration too.
Hmm, later videos seem to indicate a ten-year mission instead of the two years. My bad.
Looking forward to the nxt chapter
Of course it's one of the Single-nacelle ships.
Okay, it looks better in the video than the small image you posted on FB>
I definitely like the shape of the space station; it really looks like TOS style. The Adventurer, however, is too much like a frying pan to be taken seriously.
Both the station and the Scout/Destroyer Class were both depicted in the 70’s The Star Trek Technical Manual by Franz Joseph.
He was trying to fill in the TOS universe by extrapolating what was on screen.
Some of us grew up in that 70s Trek scene and have a fond recollection of those designs…
Not for everybody, but for TOS fans that wanted more Trek in the 70s, that Technical Manual was a gift from the Trek gods… 😃🖖
N , C , C ~ 1986 ! with Two Warp Nacelle s 40 Second s ! SO do the UPGarde ' s on a Starship with ONLY One Nacelle SORRY WHY , everything else Was Great You and your team put in alot of hard work so THANK YOU ;
There is more in the Adventure series. Here:
ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=ZsBe3pJPDdyXGc_e
But the back story: This scout has an experimental prototype engine. It did its job of testing it out and was mothballed. Then an emergency mission comes up where they need a super fast ship and one that will not be noticed if it disappeared on a long mission.
So they upgraded it for the long mission and sent it out.
Really, all just an excuse to play in the Trek universe… 😃🖖
So, it's a space faring Winnebago?!
Honestly it smacks of a cross between UFO and earlier Jerry Anderson
Yes, that Franz Joseph design is highly influenced by 50’s and 60’s sci-fi and space art… Part of the “charm”… 😃🖖
This is fantastic. Very (!) faithful to the aesthetic and design from TOS.
However...
I think you need to upscale the station.
The ST: Technical Manual has the outer pods in the ring each holding 3 starships of varying size all at once.
Otherwise, this is gorgeous!
I actually fitted the ship in there and I think I could fit three ships in a pod, but really tight just like the Manual.
But the pod I showed had a small interior, made to expedite refit/repairs on just one ship…
My project here is more about aesthetics and story, the models not up to schematic standards and not detailed to modern standards…
Just having Trek fun… 😃🖖
Looks like a Saladin-class destroyer, per the Starfleet Technical Manual (1975).
Exactly! But the Scout variation with its mission modifications… 😃🖖
Never have been able to wrap my noodle around the single nacelle concept considering warp drive was based around Cochrane's two nacelle design.🤔🖖
Franz Joseph created the Scout Class design in the 70’s, way before First Contact and the Cochrane warp drive depicted in that movie. Joseph just extrapolated from TOS and tried to fill in the history, beliefs, and types of ships not shown in TOS. Between TAS and the movies, dark times for Trek fans, The Technical Manual (TTM ) was a ray of hope and joy for Trek fans wanting more Trek. If you grew up with TTM, there is a special place in our Trek hearts for those designs… 🖖
All the rules around warp drive having nacelle pairs were made because Roddenberry didn't want to pay Fran Joseph, the TOS technical manual's writer, royalties for his designs. Franz Joseph wrote the manual during the lull between TOS and TNG and the TOS/TMP movies in the 80s. He showed it to Roddenberry at a convention and impressed him, getting permission to publish and sell it as an officially licensed product. Once the 80s rolled around, Roddenberry had new Star Trek projects coming in; and threw all that out due to some combination of not wanting to owe royalties to anyone and having new ideas which disagreed with it.
@@bobfischer Still, since the Cochrane design "retcon," if you will, the noodle can't wrap around it. Before all the tech manuals, it was somebody pushes a button, magic happens, spaceship goes really fast.
Well, C.R. 2000: if you had been born before the Tech Manual, and supplements were written, YOU would have found out, a Single Warp Nacelle, was for Basic Power, the SECOND, was for Backup, or extra, and the 3rd, and 4th, were for Battle Ships, for OVERKILL !!
@@dennispersson9466 I was...
Awesome!
My Star Trek
Pure, not retconned,
No remake, not modernized retro teck.
Ty
Subbed
Mini enterprise..teo..teo..
Sweet!!
Great start to a new adventure. However I was wondering. When the crew boarded her, did they all needed to lay down first? It seems you enter the ship sideways lol!
According to the Technical Manual, there is no gravity in the pods. Therefore the ships artificial gravity would be in effect.
The Headquarters does not spin for artificial gravity, it has artificial gravity plates as well…
So there would be a point where crew members would have to change their orientation as they enter the pod and the ship…
I know there’s a guy who will eventually model the entire exterior and interior of the Headquarters in perfect scale… I’ll leave it to him to figure out exactly how that works… 😛🖖
@@bobfischer Yup, on the station, the core gravity is up/down. The people boarding the ship would be reoriented either by the transporter or on the shuttle pod.
Is there going to be follow-up to this? Please???
There is a whole Adventure series already posted, if you have not seen it it is here:
ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=n1ENlGQF4NEFX_fH
I do plan to do some more TOS themed productions including some more Adventure episodes… 😀🖖
@@bobfischer Thanks! I will subscribe so I can check them all out.
Having drawn the space station in 3d, I will say this is the original.
Retro-futurism
Exactly! I like the look and feel of TOS, I am trying to fill in that universe with stuff we did not see on the series… 😀🖖
I had a little model of this ship.
Liked everything except the flash as the ship went to warp. That was never on the TOS episodes. It seems cliche now. It's a small thing, but there it is.
True. No flash in TOS. I do not think they ever showed an external shot of the ship going into or out of warp… So who’s to say there was or was not a flash? 😛 I think the flash adds a sense that the ship has left or entered normal space… All art is illusion, so just trying to use methods to paint that picture so the viewer can experience that illusion…
Anyway, LLAP 😃🖖
Nice, but why sooo low Resolution??
It takes about 10-24 hours to render 20 seconds as it is now (and I have a maxed out MacMini)… 😛 I do not have the warehouse full of computers to render in any kind of timely manner. Then UA-cam compresses what I do send to make it what it is there…
So, I just have to work within my limitations… But it’s all good because it contributes to that classic 60’s vibe I was going for… 😀🖖
Love the Scout! Very happy to see Starfleet Command, but shouldn’t it be rotating? The old Tech manual strongly implied it rotated to simulate gravity.
I saw a video commentary which said it should be rotating as well. But if you look back at the Technical Manual you will see that is impossible. The inside of the station is divided into six sections, oriented so the “floor” is on the periphery of the disk, as would be in a centrifugal artificial gravity scenario. But each section has a flat foundation, and where they meet there is quite an angle. It was also specifically stated there was no gravity in the pods…
So apparently each section has artificial gravity, and the pods none.
But all is my interpretation as I try to make very incomplete and sometimes vague plans into something that might look “real”… At least in the TOS universe… 😃🖖
When are we gonna get a ISS space station like this??? Or a nice ring station???
Hey! The problem is that Federation Headquarters requires artificial gravity, not centrifugal force (spinning) for gravity effect.
One day! 😃🖖
Well, it's SO Wonderful to see commenters, who are SO PETTY, they think THEY have eyes that can see weld lines 1/4 inch wide, from a ship 500 feet, or more away, with the light from a star, a few Million miles away !!
Nice to meet you "Optical Eagles"! Please Report to Starfleet Command, to serve as trackers, when THEY, become REALITY!! Tell them I Recommended You !
To be fair, it is true that the more details and “greebles” the more the illusion of scale. But I purposely want to keep the general TOS aesthetic. I actually do texture the surfaces, but very toned down except where the story might call for damage or such…
All good, my videos are “art” in that they are my peculiar vision of Trek, focusing on the 60’s and 70’s TOS…
Not for everyone… 😃🖖
so what was the mission?
The whole arc is below. I plan on periodically adding episodes in the time line… 😃🖖
ua-cam.com/play/PLr_Fc_lfG945T22G_7jPScVgADciCtB-C.html&si=P_qbSzbwafk6g_wt
Echo is far to pronounced. A little goes a long way..
Yes, I experiment with all the audio tools in FCP… Definitely can tone down reverb next time… 👍🖖
@@bobfischer hope a small criticism in no way takes away from a fun and well done film . Thank you for the interesting work, enjoyed and will be passed along to others...
The narrator sounds congested.
I think I put too much reverb on my voice… I’ll try to tone that down next time… 😃🖖
Agreed. This is the Star Trek we should have gotten. Paramount doesn't care. It's just a money making commodity like everything else in Hollywood. Great entertainment is only ever going to come from true fan productions.
Way to loud and irritating music
I could definitely mix the music further down and I might in the future depending on the needs of the piece I am doing.
But I wanted to have control of the music and do it myself. I like ELP, prog rock and such, so the synth sound fits with that aesthetic. If I had a choice of listening to the philharmonic do a classical piece, or ELP I would choose the latter…
That being said, when you hear the distorted lead guitar that is an actual electric guitar I’m playing… 😃
If I was doing this to make money and wanted to appeal to the common taste and had the financial resources to hire a classical orchestra, of course that would be the way to go…
But I’m not…
Anyway, all subjective aesthetics… 😃🖖
P.S.
Here is my music project to give you an idea where I am coming from… 😃
www.thestardreamerprojecthome.com
Horrible synthetic music.
Musical taste is subjective, that much is true.
That being said, the music in my videos is not generic Trek music copied off the Internet, or prefabricated loops stitched in an editor, or pumped out of an AI music generator.
I wrote and produced all the music myself, actually playing keyboards, guitars, and drums.
I did that so I could create my own mood and sound environment for this series…
So, the soundtrack might be awful, but it is the product of a creative process and does exactly what I designed it to do…
To each their own… 😃🖖
@@bobfischer i applaud you for doing your own music but the synthetic sound is offputting.
Cool... feels like Star Trek.....not woke Trek.
I think Trek always had social messaging. Gene Roddenbury liked the sci-fi format because he could address social/political issues and get it through the censors.
He addressed racism, class oppression, the Vietnam War, birth control, religious zealotry, and a host of other issues.
The difference I believe is that in TOS equality issues were addressed by normalizing them. So it was normal for a black female to be an officer in a command position, normal for an Asian to be a bridge officer, it was normal for a black man to be an admiral. They did not focus on these realities, just made them a normal part of 23rd Century life.
Some new Trek does have a tendency to put some equality issues way out in front. I would feel better about the normalization approach, but I just try to enjoy Trek in all its forms.
That being said, New Trek I can watch once, enjoy it, then over it.
But TOS I can watch over and over again. It might be TOS was a formative experience of my youth and so I have a special relationship with it…
In any case, my imagination lives in TOS, and that is what I plan to explore with these videos… 😃🖖
Trek was always Woke.
This is incredibly lame. Especially the electronic music and dorky narration.
I do not have a team of animators or a room full of computers to render out the animation. I am teaching myself animation as I go and It is definitely not pro quality. It is just for people that might like some classic TOS era Trek… At least 300+ subscribers appreciate the effort…
In terms of the music, that is a matter of taste. Some here like it…
But perhaps I need some standard of quality for reference. So send some links to your animation and/or music and I’ll have a better idea of where I need to improve…
In the end, art is subjective. But it does seem to take less effort to be a critic than a creator…
@@bobfischer You want to meet up? Going to pull that show me your own animation and music BS? How old are you? 12? Its lame. You put it out there, expect some feedback or turn your comments off, cry baby!
The keyboard music blows.
@@Frankenstein-1 I see you are a Pink Floyd fan, I am more into ELP. Just a matter of taste.
Regarding the music, at least I do not just copy past generic Trek music, or edit a bunch of prefabricated loops, or use AI to fill in as is common now with all the popular music.
I write and produce all that music myself. I actually use an 88 key Korg Triton Extreme like Emerson had for live performance. I also play guitar, bass, and drums myself on those tracks…
Music is a like any art a subjective experience. But if you are going to critique at least do it constructively and intelligently.
Did you not like the individual sounds? Was the tempo off? Were there discordant notes? Was the mix off in some specific way?
If you could send a link to music you have produced, I might have a higher standard I can work towards… 🖖
Uss Lollipop. Lol. ( kidding).