Have Serbia and the EU Fallen Out For Good?
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
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Serbia is threatening to pull out of the Council of Europe if they accept Kosovo as a member, effectively ending their ongoing application to join the EU. So in this video, we'll explain what's happened and why Vucic might be changing his foreign policy.
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00:00 Introduction
01:09 Vucic’s Balancing Act
04:15 New Shift Explained
07:16 What Happens Next?
07:59 Brilliant
To abandon the EU, first you need to be in the EU…
I was about say... I don't remember they were part of the EU in the first place lol
I abandoned you and your mother even though we were never married. Come at me obtuse autists.
@@fatinahmed1087 watch the entire video before commenting nonsense
@@samsa1440 This is just overblown, probably for views. Serbia (or Vučić) is not sending ultimatum but literally plead for help for EU. EU is guaranty of document signed back in 2013. Serbia fulfilled everything from that document, that was part of normalization process, Kosovo gov didn't do shit and are openly saying that they will not do anything. Serbia is not sending ultimatum, but pleads for EU to fulfill it's part, and to condition Kosovo gov to fulfill it's part of obligation before letting it in other EU institutions.
@@pickymapping6098comment still hold.
If they think corruption in Serbia is a big issue for joining the EU, I wonder how they allowed Ukraine to become a candidate.
Serbia is also a candidate
Not only that.
EU would gladly accept Ukraine with Crimea abd Donbas, saying that "international borders can't be changed."
Well, acording to international borders Kosovo is still part of Serbia, but for some reason they apply different rules for Serbia.
@@milostomic8539 the reason is invasion vs independence
@@milostomic8539 ok 🤡
@@mateuszzdyb3547 If that is the case, then why is EU ready to accept Georgia with Abkhazia?
Seebia doesn't want to be a part of EU anyway. Your time is gone. Europe is just an American servant.
So, if Serbia do not want to be in EU, why they did ask to get in ?
Your time is gone? 💀 Bro. Serbia totally forgot its little dog role
@@The_Panda99We are experts in the fight against nato nazism, of which you are an exponent.
But people want to go to work in the EU ((:
@@vickoslavkovic2593 But yet almost every Serb wants to leave Serbia and go to Germany or Switzerland 💀
This is a difficult matter. While the EU advocates for the preservation of the country's territorial integrity in the case of Ukraine and Georgia, it demands that Serbia give up its territorial integrity and renounce forever the territories occupied by NATO in the 1999 war. It is understandable that this offends the Serbs. If Serbia is rejected by the EU, Kosovo's EU integration may also be hindered and the stabilization of the Balkans will fail.
Georgia and Ukraine occupied by Moscow. NATO stopped bloody war.
Moscow rejected by EU, no cries.
Serbia needs to leave that part of Balkans and move back to their motherland Russia, where they actually belong 😃 Greetings to the Republic of Kosovo 🇬🇧🇽🇰
You are so right brother ! Kosovo IS Serbia ! ( love 🇷🇸 ,from 🇷🇴 )
@@DanielMundiViator mr Romanian Pickpocket, since when did you feel you allowed to call yourself Jason Smith, been lifting few wallets in London and already feeling British now? 🤔
Well that's not an honest representation actually. At first Europe asked Serbia to not genocide the Albanians, they refused. They asked them to not ethnically cleanse them, that also was refused, they gave different options on Kosovo status while Kosovo still would be part of Serbia, that too was refused. Now Vucic is helping corruption grow and is kissing up to Putin.
Oh no, what a terrible loss for the EU...
- said nobody, ever.
You said it right now.
No one needs another Hungary in the EU.
@@MohitKumar-ym1il "uhm actually, You said it right now." 🤓☝
Rather take corrupt Ukraine 😂
@@BlueTigerRealTankie detected. Opinion : irrelevant
Won't shed a tear. Even if Serbia was leaning towards the EU and we'd take them in, I expect them to be a trojan horse on the long run, like Hungary sometimes is now.
"sometimes"😬
Wholeheartedly agree. All we want to have within the EU is another Hungary but on steroids. NOT.
Sometimes? 😂
Exactly
Ukraine is a Trojan horse already
Does no one else find the eu recognition of Kosovo a bit hypocritical when they basically ignored Spain saying Catalonia’s independence vote was illegal?
Did Spain tried to ethnically cleanse the catalans ? No!
Serbians are etnicaly clenad in Kosovo now. More than 200000 Serbian people never get back in thear homes after 2008.And that is ok?
hipocrism
Well, that is the problem.All we ask is to be treated the same like everyone else.
EU allowed Cyprus to join, which is divided country since mid 1970s.
EU even said it would accept Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.They too have territorial disputes.
But they won't let Serbia in.
Serbia had a Nazi-like concept when dealing with other national or religious minorities . And judging from their comments you can tell that almost 30 years later ,they don’t even regret it. So no comparison to Spain please!
@@llaqikufjet8231
Siptare ne seri...
Can't decide if I am more impressed by misleading title of the video or amount of hate towards Serbia in comments
No hate towards Serbs or Serbia, only to Serbian politics.
That is just a fancy way of saying you hate someone without admitting that you are full of hate. Just politically correct bs. The vast majority of the Serbs are in compliance when it comes to Kosovo.
@@ForsakenartsprodKosovo is an independent natuon, Serbia is a rogue state making threats they can't back up.
When you commit a genocide, expect the rest of the world to look at you sideways.
It's not a problem, Serbs are used to it. It was even worse in the past. At least now they are not calling to kill us.
Maybe the fact that they genocided Bosnians and trying ethnic cleansing them and Albanians might have something to do with it? Or that they support Putin, China and Iran West's archenemies? What could it be? I really hate western stance on this, you can't treat friendly who sees you as an enemy. You should hear some Serbians how they talk about the West, this is nothing.
Oh wait Serbian people doesn't even want to be member of that idiotic union.
Yes to be a part of peacefull Russia !!!
@@adames9862 yes to be part of serbia. Not some idiotic gang led by pscycos that want to rule on other side of the globe, Russia is standing for itself and all freedom loving people.
@@adames9862 No, not part of EU or Russia, we want to be neutral. We don't give a damn about EU or Russia.
@@adames9862 Russia didnt bomb us...
Why would peace loving countries bomb country and focus civilian targets and then lie about all that ? Bringing peace with bombs and death ?
I want Serbia to be a part of the BRICS not eu
Who gives a f..k for EU anymore, anyway !?
I am sure you don’t live in Rusia or china.
@@greenworld0208 What are you talking about, clown? Pray that the EUROPEAN UNION will not fall apart in the near future.
@@greenworld0208 I would say he is in the EU working
bravo brate, i hope Serbia and Vucic will become a important undertaker for the EU....
@@Michael-lx7uy ooo come on, what about you, where you’re going to live?
Serbia's EU dream - said nobody in Serbia ever 😂 How ignorant are these so called news. Serbia was accepted in Eu consul in borders that include Kosovo. Not all Eu member stated recognize Kosovo secession. Also calling Nato ,, bombing campaign " sounds a lot like ,, special military operation " does it?
we are used to media spitting bullshit and making narative they want not anything new. Funny part is that after experience with how they do things they think someone dreams of becoming part of that
We all said it 10+ years ago... It's pretty obvious why most people lost hope.
@@jm036 I know. Personally i would also like to join the EU because that is the most convenient and logical thing. We are in the middle of Europe, tied together culturally and economically. But after everything calling the EU Serbian dream sounds like a joke honestly. If anything, EU should put Serbia in as fast as it can rather than acting like they are above us when fundamentally there is not much of a difference.
Of course you simply ignored the fact that the Kosovo side is blocking any progress in relations. They did absolutely nothing that was signed 10 years ago.
Recently, Russia played a soccer match against another European country for the first time since the start of the war. Of course it was Serbia.
Where's the problem?
Jedino Srbi imaju muda!
Slava Russia, Slava Serbia! Love from Switzerland.
@@Spartanac56 which is exactly why they submit to ruzzia
and lost 4 0😂
So many hate for Serbia in comment section... Sad for someone saying how they're democrats and open-minded....
Saying this as pro-EU and someone against current Government here.
To su mainstream mediji zapada ucinili od tamosnjeg naroda. Oni kojima se Marinika Tepic i N1 svakodnevno dive. Razmislite koga cete i kako podrzavati u Srbiji.
@@bingo737 nikoga. Jer jedina razlika između stranaka u Srbiji je koja slova će stavljati u ime. Svi su identični i nema boljih nego samo gorih od drugih. A po rečniku bih rekao da podržavate vladajuću partiju koja je apsolutno sačinjena od "žutih" kadrova koji pljuju žute, tj i sebe.
Like I said too many times here, it's not hate, it's a reality check. Serbs are way to dramatic -each and every criticism is not automatically hate. But yeah, the country should stop sitting on a fence between East and West. It's a bloody dangerous position.
@@anitagorse9204 saying that EU should never even consider Serbia as member is, as much you don't want to call it that way, hate speech. As you even saw in this video, Serbians becoming more and more against Vučić sp he needed to import new Serbians to vote for him. We want him out. But reading this I see huge number (if not majority) saying even without him we would be not welcome.
@@Bata989 Naglasavate da su sastavljeni od zutih kadrova. Od koga god da su sastavljeni, danas se u Srbiji vise ne radi za 200 i 300 evra. Kosovo JOS nije izgubljeno. Vise ljudi radi nego ikada ranije. Srbija nije laka meta i bilo cija krpa za brisanje podova u medjunarodnoj zajednici. Od toga ja polazim. A kako ce se ko nazivati me ne zanima. Samo prezirem bilo kakvu moralnu i dusevnu prostituciju strancima koji Srbiji mogu jedino da pljunu pod prozor. Veliki smo narod i treba nam mnogo vise samopostovanja. Ziveo sam 22 godine u Svedskoj i odgovorno tvrdim-obrazovaniji smo od svih koji nam sole pamet. Trebamo biti strpljivi, mudri i ponosni.
Kosovo will never get into EU, Romania and Spain will never allow it for once, Heck Spain, Slovakia, Cyprus, Romania, and Greece don't recognize it! Cyprus, Hungary, Romania and Spain, voted against approving Kosovo's membership for the Council of Europe
And they will vote again and again until Brussels gets it through their thick skulls that TERRORISTS DO NOT GET THEIR OWN STATE!
KLA were terrorists until 2000 !
Also russia china japan and others dont recognize kosovo
Hahahah nope it will be
@@serbian_nationalist14japan does serbo boy kosovo will be in the council
Brainwashed Kosovo soon with be together With Big Albania in or out eu
This is quite unnerving for me as a Serb, and it's not just because I'd like for us to join the EU, but because I believe that the whole EU accession progress was one of the biggest things holding our government in check, since they needed to keep up appearances at least. Now I believe we'll be seeing even more authoritarianism...
As a Serb, what irritates me the most with the collective west is the ‚disgust‘ they openly express towards us. It doesnt matter what we do lets say for the next 50 years, they will always regard us as an evil barbaric tribe and at the same time allow Kosovo for example to do whatever they want with Serbs just because they are submissive. I cant stand those double standards. Its frustrating.
@@gamps2771 Also, I like how we cry for help from EU, but EU propaganda machine is like: "Here is Serbia ultimatum!!! 😡"
You opened rape camps on bosnia and kosova comited 2 genocides and still harbor mass graves in serbia as political barganing chips
In bosnia alone you literally had rape tourisem of bksnian women and rape hotels
Let alone sreberenica meja reqak etc
Nothing andi mean nothing bosniaks or albanians have done comapres
I wish you were seen as evol because you are
No one is harming serbs in kosova but on the contrary albanians in serbia are treated as second class citisens
@@gamps2771
This seems like a bit of a vicious circle.
Serbia's autocratic and Russian leanings make westerners less sympathetic towards Serbia, which then pushes Serbia even more in that direction, and then the cycle repeats.
From a westerner's perspective, that just doesn't make sense. A country doesn't ascribe to a form of government and ideology based on who their perceived friends and enemies are, but based on who they want to be, and what the people want for themselves. The form of government Serbia has now tells us Serbia doesn't care that much about democratic values and therefore doesn't belong in the EU.
Ultimately, the Serbian people need to decide this, while they still have a system that allows them to influence such decisions.
@@gamps2771Do you really think if you behave like a modern country for 50 years everyone will see you the same? Because no one has seen that happen yet.
Your country puts on some makeup and expects everyone else to think you're a completely different country.
I know Serbs are not bad people themselves but your government is a different thing completely.
A lot of hate towards Serbia in the comments
Not hate, reality check for Serbian readers.
@@anitagorse9204Guess what, no body cares 😂
@@mountechelon1360Apparently some butthurt Serbs do. 😅
@@mountechelon1360 Lots of offended Serbs here. I guess it hurts that nobody wants you. Maybe the Turks will take care of....again.
Who cares.
Honestly despite Kosovo not being in nato there are natos troops in Kosovo and serbia knows this. They wont do crap since unlike the 90s NATO suronds serbia on all sides now
Just wait. Serbia is nor surrounded by NATO, NATO is surrounded by Serbia on all sides
this is not the issue, we are not giving in to arms, but rather insisting on the UN laws. We very well know NATO won't hesitate to bomb us again, as they did without the approval of the Security Councel of the UN, and actually blocked discussion on the 1999 aggression which was planned for the 25th of March in the UN. We know where we stand with NATO, no worries about it.
@@user-vo2ge5tw1hoh no Serbia isn't allowed to bully and kill its neighbours like it used to because evil nato will stop them!
Why are you acting love the story starts with nato attacking Serbia?
@@bigpopsgg2429 you call this a legit political comment?
This is just overblown, probably for views. Serbia (or Vučić) is not sending ultimatum but literally plead for help for EU. EU is guaranty of document signed back in 2013. Serbia fulfilled everything from that document, that was part of normalization process, Kosovo gov didn't do shit and are openly saying that they will not do anything. Serbia is not sending ultimatum, but pleads for EU to fulfill it's part, and to condition Kosovo gov to fulfill it's part of obligation before letting it in other EU institutions.
Don't worry, guys, it's just Serbia decided to join Switzerland in 'I-am-the-hole-in-EU-maps' club
Rich hole, poor hole.
Switzerland shares the same european values as EU, and is no ally to asian warmongers!
@@llaqikufjet8231 whats wrong with Asians?
@@bullshitdepartmentasian warmongers! same as european and african warmongers! his point was china
@@bullshitdepartment Asian warmongers don’t share the same values as Europe.
Good, we wont have another hungary..
Serbs are laughing at the EU, because the EU is desperately trying to buy Serbia. The EU transfers billions of Euros in non-returnable support to Serbia and EU companies have opened hundreds of thousands of new jobs in Serbia, but Serbs love Putin and Russia and are not interested in the EU and the West, Vucic knows this!
Hungary would be considered a liberal, pro western, and democratic country compare to Serbia. Serbia is just a smaller version of Russia, possibly even more nationalistic and xenophobic.
@@FirstLast-bk3zy been to both of the countries many times, both are as eastern european as it gets, both ruled by authoritarian leaders pretending to be democratically elected. They would be the same, except Orban is stuck in EU so he has to play it more pro-eu, but he cant leave just because his economy is entirely held up by EU
@@andin3720easily more nationalistic and xenophobic. there are millions of russians who don't love what russia stands for, can't say the same for serbia. and russians have many ethnic and religious minorities that are embraced and considered russian, can't say the same about the muslims and albanians in serbia lol
@@benpuljak2304I like to think all the non nationalist Serbs just moved to Montenegro
No one will miss Serbia in EU.
Can in be on the EU memorandum so we shake hands in good fortune?
literally my first thought: bye serbia. who cares.
and then Russia will have more influence in the Balkans...
EU politicians are literally saying "There is no complete EU without Serbia".
So that is not really correct.
And believe us, we would love it if EU and USA would leave us alone.
But many would miss the EU... since its committing suicide.
And go where,Serbia?!?nowhere to go..
They are already nowhere, nothing new for them.
They can go back to Turkey.
They can bugger off to Russia and leave the space for sensible people.
Up Russia's ass as usual
Switzerland is ''nowhere'', nothing wrong with them.
This video is full of BS. Complete spin.
Serbia never liked being under the rule of colonizers.
Явно не е харесвала и излаза на море , затова и няма такъв ! 🤪😆😂
Same for Albanians, and you have a problem with that :)
But like to take their money😂
Sounds like Muscovite, same fate approaching.
@@uschurch Albanians were compliant with Ottoman Turks this is why they converted to Islam and ethnically cleansed Christian Serbs from Kosovo. Albanians were also compliant during the WW2 Italian occupation from 1941-1945 and did not organize a revolt.
The Council of Europe is not part of the EU. As Serbia is not part of the EU
Nobody ever said that
He already explained that. Pay attention.
@@yennik3439 its a clarification for what I ve read in the coments. The beginning of the video is also confusing because they dont link what leaving the Council of Europe means towards the EU
@@zUJ7EjVD yes, just mentioned it for clarification. You can read my answer below
@@javi185javi So you are mentioning it to people to dumb or lazy to actually watch the video? Doubt they will read your comment then. And the title is correct, since EU is the governing body of the EU Council.
Serbia. Not surprised at all...
The EU does not respect Serbia's territorial integrity like they do with Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia.
@@Mhark127 don't go on ethnic cleansing rampages and get your ass kicked and then you wint have to worry about your territory
This is just overblown, probably for views. Serbia (or Vučić) is not sending ultimatum but literally plead for help for EU. EU is guaranty of document signed back in 2013. Serbia fulfilled everything from that document, that was part of normalization process, Kosovo gov didn't do shit and are openly saying that they will not do anything. Serbia is not sending ultimatum, but pleads for EU to fulfill it's part, and to condition Kosovo gov to fulfill it's part of obligation before letting it in other EU institutions.
@@Mhark127 what integrity 🤣🤣🤣
serbia still occupies albanian territories in their territories. The Albanian issue ist not over just with independence of Kosovo. We have also other territories that were stolen from us from serbia with genocide and holocaust..
@@Mhark127you did that to yourselves, you started genocide on Albanians, EU and Nato told you to stop, you didn’t, you got what you deserved. Kosova isn’t yours
Since Great Britain left the EU I see us Serbs now have multiple choices. We can either join EU or Great Britain
🤣
Good luck with the economy
eu should stop acting like they ever wanted Serbia in EU to begin with. It was just false hope until Vucic gave Kosovo everything they asked for. Now that its done deal they dont ned Serbia anymore.
druze, nije da nas ne žele. Mi smo samo proruski orijentisani.
@@antonijegaric1910 jesmo kurac. Zavisimo od eu investicija, 80 posto ekonomije nam je sa EU. Eu nam se pita za sve. Naoruzavmo Ukrajinu... Prica za malu decu. Jeste narod proruski orijentisan ali politika nije
Because Serbia likes to say one thing but then do something else.
They're acting as if the EU needs Serbia more than the other way around.
The U.K was able to play this kind of game quite successfully until they brainrotted themselves into working against their own interests.
Their greed overcame their rationality, pragmatism and cooperation, diplomacy were thrown out of the window.
Serbia tries to play a similar game while not being in the EU, and having realistically very little to offer.
Obviously, it's not working.
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg Eu acts like it wants peace and prosperity in western balkans and ukraine. They just want cheap workers and ustabke balkan. Eu had 30 years since 90s war to incorporate bosnia and serbia into union and end every possible future conflict here and that way stop far right politicians from rising. What eu wants. It wasnt serbia to recoznise kosovo , they want serbian litium. They want serbian workers and doctors. Thats all eu rly wants. They will do the same to Ukraine. Eu could have sanctiomed vucic and declared Serbian elections fraud. People would protest. Vucic would be gone in no time. But eu just doesnt care. They never wanted new members. Its just falls hope and people arent buying it
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg Are you kidding me? Serbia doesn't need nor want EU. Get your facts straight. If for example a referendum was held in Serbia on whether to join EU or ditch it.. Can you just guess what the answer would be?? Majority would say NO to the EU. And that is a FACT whether you like it or not, it's a fact. Now politicians are diff story (if you mean politicians?) then yes, some of our politicians are bribed.. But DO not speak for Serbs and Serbia again or me. I do not need the fkn EU, nor do i want to be a part of it. Nor does the majority of Serbian population. You don't speak for us.
So the EU can recognise Kosovo as independent, but can't recognise the Donbass? Stinking hypocrisy.
are you stupid ?
Apples and oranges hyporite.
Mars ma😂
Well...even a dictator like Tito knew better, that Kosovo needed a special statute so it doesn't escalate... plus, Kosovo got indipendence becouse of american foreign policies in favour of right wing nationalists and micro states in all ex comunist countries and honestly Kosovo has got a bunch of hills, woods, a few minerals, yet no exits at the sea, poor road infrastructure, no tourism, the poor areas were even openly targeted by ISIS recluters and common folks (majority is of Albanian ethnicity) woulda just dissolve the dictatorship they're under if they only could and join an actual country like Albania. If you ask the people of Kosovo who runs it, they'll tell you it's the Americans, since they built the biggest military base there! There's literally no way Serbia can ever get Kosovo back, unless Americans decide otherwise, but with how things are in Turkey and Russia... Kosovo is too important of strategic post for now. And ancient orthodox monasteries which are a patrimony of Unesco are still more heavily guarded than any embassy anywhere in the world! Most of the balkans are exclusively dependent on Russian gas and prices, and are part of vast gas pipeline from Russia and it's not like a country like that can sustain easily increase in prices and they also have no exit to the sea. Serbia's addition to E.U. has been protracted for soo long, in the meanwhile a lot has changed nationaly and internationally, so it makes sense they're stalling and they want to keep their feet on both sides for now untill they're forced to pick a side, but unless America completely abandons Europe, they most likely might remain neutral till this mess with Russia doesn't settles down.
Kosovo isn't really independent, without subsidies from the US and EU it would collapse.
Half of the european countries would collapse without US and EU its not something special.
0 Money from Usa and EU! The Nato troops are there for peaceful mission,don’t forget 2 world wars began from serbia.
@@user-hb9hd7gl6m dont forget serbia lost 25% of its population while albania some 2%
@@user-hb9hd7gl6m ONE world war, the other began from Poland.
@@denissaliaj9459 ofc an albanian saying this 😂
so the EU does not accept Crimea to become Russian but got Kosovo to become independent ....i understand why Sebia is unhappy.
Very different situations: crimea was a piece of Ukraine that Russia suddenly just forcefully annexed through violence. Kosovo became partially autonomous during the Tito area, and when Molosevic became dictator of Serbia and started genocide bosniaks, Kosovo understood it needed to detach. And nobody would have recognized them if it wasn't for milosevic trying to genocide Kosovan too. One is a territorial annexation, the other a civil war that resulted in de facto independence. Plus, if Putin did not invade in 2022, with time Europe would have accepted russia taking crimea, but now it can't, as a principle.
Kosovo was granted independence after Serbia tried to expel 90% of its population. Crimea was *annexed* into Russia because Putin wanted it
If you don’t understand the difference between a region becoming independent and being annexed by another state after illegal occupation…well then I don’t know what to tell you mate. I don’t think you’d be smart enough to understand anything I say
nahh..please read the whole history, and you will see that Kosovo should have never ben granted independance
@@maclain728
check the history..in 14th centutuary it was stolen from Serbia@@maclain728
@@maclain728Even western sources have concluded post-hoc that only about 3000 were killed in the counterinsurgency, far from 90% of 2 roughly million people
ThanksMuch for posting !
You cannot abandon what you've never been a part of.
There is no hatred. Serbs are like that. I know them. They are waiting for the victory of Russia, and until then they are playing tactics and pretending to be peacemakers. They should not be trusted because they are bigger Russians than real Russians.
You mean Great Britain?
Vucic is not that dumb. Not crazy to join the sinking ship piloted by the same who just brought their own bridge :)
On the other side , wasn’t he quiet until he saw how Russia brought entire Europe and west to the knees.m? Now he has pretty good friends. India , China, Russia … soon to be more
Can you be more specific on "Russia brought the entire Europe and west to the knees"? I would really like to hear that.
@@xhepik well, maybe you spent the last two years under a rock... but the EU is only a union by name ...
There is no unity within the EU and the EU´s two main "enginges" ( France and Germany ) are losing their econmically dominant role at a pace that surprises even the most pessimistic observers.
And without cheap russian LNG Germany and without cheap uranium from the former colonies in Africa, France will weaken as well to an extent that the EU´s days are counted.
Russia not only humiliated the West in Ukraine, they even managed to free themselves from western influence so thoroughly that even more than 14.000 different sanctions couldn´t harm Russia.
But Europe on the other hand IS harmed by the sanctions.
So if you got a little bit of gray matter left, you might add up for yourself what it means that Hungars, Slovakia, Serbia and in the not so distant future even more european countries might pivot away from the transatlantic caravan...
If you´re not an Albanian or Ukrainian it will only cost you living standard though...
@@xhepikyes, just wanted to ask the same...
i agree , we see how EU is starting to **** each other lol so we just buy time hehhe
It's funny when you talk about media freedoms in Serbia as if they exist in the EU.
Why would they want to join the EU right at the point where it's beginning to fall apart? Better to stay on good terms with Russia and China.
& North Korea too...
Just heard they've been invited to the next brics summit...
Of course, we are anything but stupid. We have best relations with world greatest powers now, Russia, China, India, North Korea too lol...so we'll probably join BRICS. And however small, we will always be essential part of any union, due to our position and few more secret things. ;)
... and nothing of value will be lost.
Sure mate take Muslims fom Kosov in and Ukronazi in Perfect future of EU. Doomed.
@@cte4dota Small price if you ask me.
@@MrToubrouk Its bigget price for Serbia case since EU blackmail them to give up Kosovo against all international laws and UN. None had same things to join EU before.
@@cte4dota Unlike Serbia, Kosovo is not filled with a Wish version of the Russians. So yeah, The'll fit right in.
@@cte4dota You lost Kosova when you took away the autonomy and started the genocide on Albanians. Kosova isn’t your land and international court of Justice deemed the independence legal, and the only extremist that have been seen until now are coming from the leadership of serbia
"Friendship ended with Europe, now Russia is my best friend"
"Friendship with Europe" is correct and Russia is my best friend doesn't need quotes, they are our brothers, always have been and always will be regardless of politics.
@@denis3208 thank u. From Russia 🇷🇺
@@denis3208No, Russia is not our best friend. There are no friends! Russia always take care only for its own interests. Just like any other country. And no, there is no brothers. Only interests again.
@@denis3208 i don’t see that Serbs are going to Russia , only to EU and US double standards don’t you think?
@@Gman_88 they try to work with everyone but US and EU are behaving like enemies, stealing territory and property, ignoring signed treaties, ignoring mass persecution and murders of Serbs, constantly putting unfair pressure etc No one would cooperate with them on such terms if he had choice.
The misinformation and misguided reading of events in this video is just next level.
Im from Serbia, also have a Hungarian citizenship. Honestly 0 benefit for my country to be in the EU, i look at all the neighboring countries and people barely live better. Sure all of you can write these comments against Serbia, but now you can have fun with Kosovo which will drag you down more then anyone.
I am from Montenegro and we love Hungary. I am happy Serbs and Hungarians have good relationships, history taught us when we war against each other third party comes either Turks or Germans. 🤝
@@SRB3336 just an interesting fact I used to live in Subotica and in recent years most common marriage is between Hungarians and Serbs.
and that comes from a country whose hegemony has dragged everybody around it down
So you are enjoying EU Schengen travel and citizenship? If zero benefit, be sure not to use any of it. Not the free travel, right to work, etc.
Vjeruj mi ima pomaka ja zivim u Hrvatskoj. Euro,Schengen,EU fondovi su zaista pomakli i infrastrukturu i nacin rada u Hrvatskoj🎉Svakako zelim Srbiji da se probudi i da zapnete za clanstvo u EU pozdrav iz Zagreba❤
*insert Jeremy Clarkson's ''Oh no! Anyway..'' meme*
Sometimes my genius... it generates gravity 😂
Some say he's a great fan of Midsomer Murders, some say his droppings have been found as north as York. All we know hes called The Stig.❤
Serbia has a right to be pist off. Forget the bloody past; it is the now. The Balkan politics are nuts; and looks messy. Whether or not they are right or not to be mad about license plates that led to boycotts etc; they are angry.
License plates are not the most important thing Serbs and Serbia are angry about. It's Serbian municipalitys, agreement that was signed in 2013! That is 11 y ago, EU was guaranty of that document. Serbia fulfilled it's part, while Kosovo gov did nothing and also are openly saying that they will not fulfill there part. Serbia is not sending ultimatums, they are just pleading for EU to fulfill it's part as guaranty of that document. If that was done by, say 2015, I believe Serbian would not have anything against this things that are happening now...
Serbs seem to be constantly angry.
@@CarNikola135serbia is not standing by 29 out of 33 agreements that they signed with Kosova
@@abodabaloguess what: because you give 0 sh1ts about our POV
@@gamps2771 You just proved Serbia’s adolescent behavior
If Serbs know what´s good for them long term they´ll join BRICS instead of EU. The time of EU is ticking away anyway. Collapse of EU is unavoidable. I give it 10 years max.
Serbia was never in the EU. Vucic is never going to abandon the branch that supports him (EU), and is warmongering since he has elections and needs voters.
More wars coming.
It isnt just war mongering. He sent Serb militants in Northern Kosovo only a few months ago ... but they were crushed and forced to flee by Albanian police.
@@rafaelmolini4164
Bad mouths say: They were heard screaming like big babies KFOR HJELP HJELP HJELP MAMA RUSSIA
@@invisiblemilesJust dog barking 😂😂😂
As if others don't need votes!
Wow! The amount of hate! What the heck did ordinary Serb do to any of you? The sacrifices we made on both world wars are so quickly forgotten.
Обыкновенный западный шовинизм к славянским странам
You literally started world wars my guy
@@Kapo44 yeah. no one wanted. but then oh serbian killed Ferdinand and lets all just go to arms. Thats how it works. U right
🤓👆@@Kapo44
Many EU countries like Germany , Italy and France attacked Serbia 30 years ago and made it a small country that is now. How is it possible for Serbia to want to be in the club which harmed them in the recent past?
Serbia made itself a small country on its own. Nobody wanted to be under Belgrades rule and all choose to join other blocks. Even Serbs themselves don't want to be under Serbian rule and are leaving en masse.
@@anitagorse9204 Serbia lost 8% off population since 2011 but much less then Croatia or Bulgaria which are in EU .
But much with that have with that stupid EU trade agreement from 2008 where EU can export here with 0 tax (and we know they EU heavily subsidize agriculture) but other way around every product that we in Serbia are cheaper EU made tiny quotas we can export to EU,like we cant export milk or sugar to EU ,or steal there is tiny EU quota off 150k tons for a year which is less then monthly production off Smederevo steal plant etc .So that trade agreement is crap and only benefits EU
@@anitagorse9204 False. Many EU countries with the USA funded the Albanian terrorist groups and then bombed Serbia. It was a direct attack against Serbia.
@@dzonikg Trade agreements are just that, agreements, and can be cancelled. The reason why Serbia signed it is because it has a weak negotiating power compared to EU and because there is little or no other option. In short, you can earn some money or no money. You can get some remittances from people working abroad - currently 10% of entire Serbian budget - or mass protests at home by hungry and unemployed masses. Benefits of the short term solutions are obvious, though in the long term things only get worse and worse.
Germany is in a club with the UK and USA (NATO) that destroyed lots of Germany at the end of WWII.
You know why?
Cause Germans accept Nazism was horrible.
Once Serbia finally comes to accept that the Milosevic regime was pure evil, they will stop having such grievances.
I, for one, certainly hope that Serbia will ditch negotiations with the EU. Why isn't Britain in that organisation if it is such a blessing?
Vucic's lower lip is so big its blue from lack of blood flow.
Hey, that's not nice.
But yes, he looks like a fish.
please let me see how you twitch and glitch when you compare Crimea and Donbas in Ukraine to Kosovo, while your brain is struggling not to combust violently
February 2014 Moscow occupied Crimea, "referendum" a month later.
12.04.2014 Moscow occupied Sloviansk, "referendum" a month later.
17.07.2014 Moscow Buk shot down MH17.
February 2022 Moscow occupied Kherson, "referendum" half a year later.
Why don't you mention Kherson?
Not a great loss. Serbia is just a Russian satellite.
You're Canadian, you're just an American satellite
Don't forget to vote for trudeau again in 2025
@@highgrounder5238 Whataboutism as always 😂
Trudeau sending all your money to Ukraine 😂
@@highgrounder5238 Canada is a British satellite *
7:36 you seam not to understand. Let me be simple: Serbs dont want EU since we consider that madhouse and
This will save the EU to make the same mistake it did with Hungary.
Nothing will save that degenerate, bankrupt mess.
@@Okiejayjay
We've found the EU-hater 🤣
@@mariatheresavonhabsburg no, bullshit hater
@@Okiejayjay You are free to leave.
@@pjhgerlach I did.
Euh yes please. Dont need another Hungary lol
do you want Ukraine to join?
Hungary is way way better than Serbia. Serbia literally conducts annual military exercises with Russia.
@@segiraldoviComparing Hungary under Orban and Ukraine under Zelensky is so incredibly apples to oranges it’s crazy
@@maclain728 I recommend that you review more about Ukrainian politics, Zelensky is an actor by profession and has known how to sell a good image abroad. In 2019 (pre-pandemic and pre-invasion of Russia) it was already one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe. What seems stupid to me is that you are comparing Hungary to Ukraine
@@segiraldovi If Ukraine makes the reforms needed to join the EU, why not?
Hungary too hopefully...
Yes I live in Hungary and hope for HUXIT
@@renegoffart5987 NATO too would be nice if you can , thank you
@@ScipionLaurentiend yes... As nato evolved from a defence alliance into a regime change offensive cartell ordered by cia, pentagon and big Coorporatism... To shape the world into profit for those big corporations.... Blackrock... Monsanto, bayer, and sending bombs and young people to war on lies...
@@renegoffart5987 Great....then sell your production to Papua-New Guinea. Did you saw the UK still whinning? Huxit will be 100 times worst
@@draculakickyourass brexit was ok. Till the tories started to do what EUCOMMISSION told them to do. Massive immigration, depopulate the natives by medical intervention and falsifying the energy and food prices... So no... National sovereignty and self sufficiency is a possible solution if the people in the parliament are really conducting integrity based and intentional leading by serving the people... Not their own agenda and that of the satanic pedophile bankers association...
As a Serbian I can confirm we never wanted anything from EU. We don't want EU.
It would be beneficial for both sides if EU stop pulling us in. Pressuring us...
I hope we (random people in Europe) can all agree on that?
I am american but i dont understand your obsession with Russia. The west is not perfect but russia is pathologically incompetent and deceitful.
Знаем , вие сте много " умни " затова вече нямате и излаз на море 😉😂😂
Едно вдигане на митата , визов режим и спиране на газопровода или вдигане на таксата ще ви се отразят благотворно !! ☝️🤪😆
@@jeremytrepanier2202 If you're sincerely interested...
We don't give a fuck for Russia, their system or politics. We were in confrontation with them in 1948. After that they invaded Hungary, Czech... so you can understand how brave it was in that time. We simply love freedom. We were fighting against any empire no matter how big they were or how small we are.
You, as an American should know fact or two more.
Serbs were pro-Western after ww2. We stayed outside iron curtain. Serbs were traveling abroad just to have modern outfits and new music, rock and roll, parties, freedoms. That's what you represented once for us. Now, you invade us, take most precious peace of land. Land where we have millennium old monasteries and heritage, where our faith have it's source. You helped, or even more true, organized separatism that had as an consequence ethnical cleansing of our nation from their native areas in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. Almost million of Serbs left houses and land where they lived more than millennium. You did all sort of illegal and inhuman evils to our nation. Against all rules, laws, UN charters...
We were allies always, try to read about saving of the USA pilots. Operation Halyard. Biggest rescue of the ww2.
You're not what you have been. Russia at least never invaded us. Killed our kids or ethnically cleansed us from our homes. As an difference, they know how to be grateful for our help and support us at least where they have voice... that's enough for us.
I really don't know how can people from USA still think of themselves as something positive?
In my opinion, USA is the greatest evil of this planet in the past half century.
I will repeat...Serbs fight any empire or help anyone, depending on the situation.
When it was needed to liberate Balkan from ottomans, we have bleed, when it was Austria - Hungary also, Hitler also...always raised voice over injustice and for freedom.
Maybe it is unknown fact for you but Serbia officially condemned Russian invasion, helped Ukraine with aid, support their UN borders...we condemned officially everything out of UN law. Same things USA did to us, even much worse...
Hope you understand it better now. We are proud and old nation with extraordinary achievements and heritage. Even if we know we will disappear... We will fight for justice and never, never, NEVER accept force with our heads down. We will find the way, die fighting or outlive evil
@@jeremytrepanier2202 Russians are our brothers, Russia is a mythological land for us Serbs
@@nikolic-sq5rx Some Ukrainians once thought that Russians are their brothers.
As a Bulgarian respect both Serbians and Albanians, and already moved on with historic issues. Serbians in the past had more enemies during Yugoslavia and tensions with the Albanians. I think Serbia can use diplomacy with Kosovo. Bulgaria lost North Macedonia because it is just "too late" and similar to Kosovo, there is a very strong anti-Serbian rhetoric similar to the strong anti-Bulgarian one in North Macedonia. In the Balkans we are all traumatised with history and hence failing to progess a society. Kosovo is made up of an overwhelming Albanian population and not Serbs. Have the feeling they are logically more attached to Albania. Same as North Macedonians more attached to the rest of ex-Yugoslavia. It is what is. Serbia today has a strong challenge and divided between the EU and Russia and logically still traumatised by NATO. But, a decision should be made.
"Kosovo is made up of an overwhelming Albanian population and not Serbs"😂
Learn some history Mongol
@@LazarOrthodox04Recognizing Kosovo and joining the EU and improving the standard of living of its citizens, this is what they must do if they want to feel good as a country.
Otherwise they can continue with imperialism and nationalism.
@@LazarOrthodox04Kosova never was serbian majority and never was your holy land😂😂😂
You never had Macedonia, you are just poisoned with nationalism and imperialism - just the same as your predecessors in the 1900s. Your country fought many wars (and lost) to get a bigger piece of Macedonia then the one you stole. You say no we didn't - I say why don't you allow Macedonians to register a party in Bulgaria?! Admit it, you are just another little hateful nationalist...
As for the Serbs - 300K Serbians were, in effect, ethnically cleansed from Kosovo after the NATO bombing. Those people still own a lot of land in Kosovo. 150K are still there in around Mitrovica. That is a lot of people if you consider that Kosovo has 1,7M. total population.
They are being actively threatened by Kurti and are frequently beaten and even killed. Kurti and gang even put a huge “UCK” sign on the hill overlooking Mitrovica - just to antagonize all Serbs down there. They have been living in terror for a long time - exactly the reason why Vucic threatens to go in and protect them. There is even an UN resolution allowing him to do so - research if you need to.
In all, considering the amount of arguments missing from this video, I see TLDR News EU as just another puppet shoveling the same CIA/EU garbage as the entire west corporate media.
I see here people think that Serbia abandoning the EU wouldn't be a big deal for the EU. But if Serbia actually does this where will the government of Serbia turn next? To China primarily for finance, and Russia for everything else. Not to mention that this would potentially mean China and Russia actually building military bases and being deeper integrated into the middle of the Europe (since Serbia would need protection from further EU and NATO pressure, economically and militarily) with easy access to influence all other aspiring EU candidates. Bosnia and Hercegovina would break apart first, then Montenegro will do something as it has Serbian majority, an invasion of Kosovo (if you can even call it that since no country can invade parts of itself) ...
I don't think that would be fun for the EU to deal with.
Not to mention that Serbia has an alternative. BRICS.
edit:
Btw, the only thing keeping Serbia on the EU path is the government. Vast majority of people don't want to join the EU neither. We've given up enough.
Wishfull thinking. Serbia is neither plan A, B, C, D for either Russia or China. In order to build military bases EU and NATO neighbourhs should open roads and airspace for transport. Will they? Heck, even Lavrov, who is a diplomat, couldn't visit Serbia.
@@anitagorse9204 I'm not saying that it'll happen. But there is a chance that something like this might happen in one form or another. I'll be the happiest person in the world if none of this happens. Considering that Vučić is giving an ultimatum to the EU it means that he has something up his sleeve. Serbia completely abandoning the EU road will have disastrous effects on us and I'm the first one to admit that it terrifies me.
Or he's simply bluffing just to keep up internal appearances and keep up the atmosphere that Serbia is not giving up while everything on the contrary has already been negotiated and agreed upon, just to save his career. I wouldn't be shocked if the second one is the case.
Couldn't care less about Vucic and his puppets.
He's a puppets himself.Our lives could be much better without them.
They weren't elected but put in power by EU.Who voted for Ana Brnabic?
@@ancientone1 If Bulgaria joined EU almost 20 years ago, why Serbia didn't join yet? I mean you are pretty much similar economically. It means people in Serbia don't actually want to join EU.
@@RaduRadonys People did want to join the EU once. That was the whole agenta behind Vučić's coming to power, and the ones before him too. Serbia won't join because the people in power sit on two chairs with their own people too. They say yes to a bunch of stuff when they visit Bruxelles and when they get in front of the camera they say "EU is forcing us to do this and that..."
We don't have a trusting relationship with the EU because common people don't know what the EU wants or stands for besides the chewed up version of the EU that we're being fed everyday across the media. And that version is bad unfortunately.
I don't trust anyone anymore. Not the EU and most certainly not the ones leading my country.
Not everything is roses and rainbows in Serbia but there is steady growth and the demographics are still far better in Serbia than they are in neighbouring Bulgaria, the Republic of North Macedonia and Bosnia Herzegovina.
China invests a lot in Serbia and they see that EU accession has not done miracles to Croatia (had it not been for tourism Croatia would be poorer than Albania) so Serbs feel they have more to gain by fixing their eyes eastwards.
Serbia lost almost 600.000 people between 2011 and 2022 which puts Serbia in the same league as the mentioned countries in your comment. Speaking of absolute numbers only Bulgaria is worse than Serbia, but Bulgaria has been going downhill population wise for 35 years now.
You have to look at all economic indicators before you write such a comment as "had it not been for tourism Croatia would be poorer than Albania". I understand you are trying to justify Serbia's turn eastward, but such a comment is ridiculous.
@@An89Go
The loss of people is around half a million since 2009 (the year the global financial crisis hit).
Serbia was also affected because many Serbs back then worked in Greece and Italy which were hit harder than other European countries so they couldn't send money to their relatives and that caused a domino effect - increased immigration to Northern and Western Europe from Serbia proper.
However, some of those who left during these 15 years returned for various reasons (also because those who didn't find employment could not stay for longer than 6 months and many Serbs return to retire in their villages and towns in Serbia because their Swiss and Austrian pensions afford them a much better retirement than had they stayed in Zurich or Vienna).
The biggest wave was in the years 1988 - 1995 when 800,000 - 900,000 Serbs left mainly to German speaking countries and to the US and Australia but around 250,000 of those were Serbs from Bosnia Herzegovina and Croatia.
Note that i did not mention Romania 🇷🇴 nor Hungary 🇭🇺.
It is because the demographics in Romania and Hungary are similar to those in Serbia 🇷🇸 except for one major difference.
In Romania and Hungary the Roma population is around 11% of the population and also 30% - 33% of newborns.
This means that Serbs as an ethnicity are actually the only non-Roma ethnicity in the Balkans that has a fertility rate that is close to that of the replacement rate (it is 1.75 - 1.8 births per ethically Serbian woman compared with only 1.3 for ethnically Romanian and 1.4 for ethnically Hungarian women.
Serbian women have a higher fertility rate than their Balkan neighbours for various reasons.
Women in villages and small towns typically marry in their twenties not their thirties which is the case in RO and HU and also Croatia 🇭🇷 which has an abysmal fertility rate of only 1.2.
Today is Easter in Catholic countries so if you happen to be in a Catholic majority country such as Hungary, Croatia or Slovenia you can visit any church and see that more than half of them are closed (incredible but true) and that those that are open are not crowded.
Traditional Catholics call it the Vatican Council II great death wish.
They perhaps have a point !
@@An89Go
Around 30% of Croatian 🇭🇷 GDP in 2023 was directly a result of the 20.6 million tourists that visited that beautiful country.
This figure includes 2.6 - 2.7 million Serbian tourists that are estimated to have spent around 3 billion Euros.
Let us for a moment imagine that this figure was only 5% (this is the case in Serbia BTW).
The GDP would drop from 18,000 EUR to 13,400 EUR which is only 1,200 - 1,500 EUR above that of Albania (the latter is not in the EU so around 60% of the economy is non registered but anyone who visits will know it is in a much better economic shape than North Macedonia 🇲🇰 or Moldova 🇲🇩 ...
@@user-ew3lw1vn5q Well said
As a German I support my Serbian brothers and sisters, don’t become a puppet state for the US like my country ☦️🇩🇪❤️🇷🇸☦️
Boze moj, deutsche Schwurbler reden jetzt sogar über Serbien 🤦♂🙄
Guarenteed you're a serbian in Germany🤡
People watching these things have zero girlfriends
The only true comment here
If you don't watch these things you end up with brexit and Trump as a president.
And the EU should care... Why again? They've been fence sitting for a long time now and if they don't want to learn the lesson Armenia learned recently, then so be it 🤷🏻♀️
Because EU is guaranty of document signed back in 2013. Serbia fulfilled everything from that document, that was part of normalization process, Kosovo gov didn't do shit and are openly saying that they will not do anything. Serbia is not sending ultimatum, but pleads for EU to fulfill it's part, and to condition Kosovo gov to fulfill it's part of obligation...
@@CarNikola135 Curious, what was Kosovo and EU's obligation in the agreement?
Even EU countries HATE EU
@@scipion34 EU is guaranty of document signed, so there obligation is to oversee implementation of agreement and to push parties to fulfill what they signed. Kosovo gov had many obligations, but most important one for Serbs in Kosovo is to form legal framework for community of Serbian municipalities. That would give Serbs in Kosovo a bit more autonomy.
@@CarNikola135 Do you have the proof that it was violated?
Would a minor reason be that Serbia is a very conservative and religious country? And the locals do not like the secular and liberal values as far as I know?
Hahahaha 🤣 🤣 🤣 You have zero knowledge of anything in Serbia.
@@petarjovanovic1481 Aren't Serbs considered to be somewhat conservative?
@@petarjovanovic1481па у праву је? Вас 15-20так % либералних у Србији нисте већина.
@@tainii-san5879yes, this dude is just talking bs.
@@gamps2771 Ја то нисам ни рекао.
To be fair
Considering how too close for comfort Serbia is to Russia
Unless something drastically changes, nothing of value is completely lost
Serbs are laughing at the EU, because the EU is desperately trying to buy Serbia. The EU transfers billions of Euros in non-returnable support to Serbia and EU companies have opened hundreds of thousands of new jobs in Serbia, but Serbs love Putin and Russia and are not interested in the EU and the West, Vucic knows this!
The irony is you answered your own complaint.
Our reason for ditching you is that none of you twofaced pr***s wanted us there in the first place!
In fact I think you should be THANKING us for making room for the pillar of human rights and decency that is - Kosovo? 😅
Fun fact, only one of us is currently under EU sanctions for violating human rights and escalating conflict - and it ain't Serbia! 😂😂😂
In couple of years time entire EU will go on the knees and beg Russia to return.
@@denis3208 Lol you people are funny and wrong all the time.
@@Siranoxz yeah I remember being wrong about economic tsunamy sinking Russian economy, about Russians running out of rockets, taking chips from washing machines, China attacking Russia, China imploding every other day, then bunch of game changer weapons, about great offensives and Russians running to Vladivostok, about Israel having greatest army in the world, about invisible planes (f-117 is winking from Belgrade museum), I've been so wrong ... oh wait I wasn't 🫢
3:18 *"Normalisation"?* - when have 🇽🇰Kosovo & 🇷🇸Serbia even had any relations in the first place? Serbia doesn't even recognise Kosovo's existence to begin with 🤣
Serbia recognizes that Kosovo is out of its control and has threatened war many times. EU is just trying to make it so that no conflict errupts.
You never learned to read? According to the UN resolution 1244 Kosovo is part of Serbia. There is nothing to recognize. And yes, majority of UN countries don't recognize such a state.
@@meeeee8745 still, no UN place for Kosovo. That means most likely no EU membership either. Instead, permanent limbo.
@@BojanPeric-kq9et It's actually easy to settle Kosovo issue, but neither SRB governments or Europe states want to settle it. This is classic example of "frozen" conflict that can be re-ignited again whenever needed.
@@vanjamenadzer People forgot one thing about Kosovo: not independence but ownership of properties of Republic of Serbia.
Kosovo is example how support for terrorists is "democracy and rule of law", while ethnic cleansing is "core European value".
Good. Put up road blocks around it. no more access to the shared prosperity they take for granted.
We survived war and sanctions in the 90s, do not worry about us, we will be fine
Good. Wont.
@@lazartrifunovic9559so almost 30 years later you didn’t learn anything from it?
@@lazartrifunovic9559 And merely surviving is enough for you? How about working towards a more prosperous future for your citizens?
What ''shared prosperity''? Today, Croatia is the second poorest country in the EU. When it entered the EU, it was not. Croatia was not poor and Serbs know that because we lived in the same country.
Serbs already ditched Europe, like years ago. They are firmly in pro-russian camp.
If you think otherwise, ask yourself how much stuff did they sent to help Ukraine.
Russia is also part of Europe. It's a continent not the EU or some vague collection of abstract values.
Or ask the web bc clearly you have no clue on what ure talking about, and you’re just extremely biased. The current political situation in serbia is as it is bc the eu bombed serbia 25 yrs ago so thats why people are so divided. Plus the war in ukraine is a war between the west/nato and russia anyway.
@@filip4413 🤣🤣 eu bombed serbia 😂😂 and even if they did, not NATO, its not like serbia deserved it 🤡🤡
@@krzychch8937 not eu but all the main eu countries with the us because the US told them to do so, i hope you recover from the previous comment since you take stuff quite literally.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 even in Russia they don't teach them that they are part of Europe. They don't recognize it's existence. They tell kids they are part of some Eurasia so they are free to stay in their made up continent.
I don't know why Europe doesn't take it is own requirements more seriously. There are so many European countries that shouldn't be in the EU.
Please give me a list of those nations
@@machovalkarie7896 The obvious ones are Italy and Hungary. Both have a history of corruption at the highest levels and both have very autocratic governments at the moment; If they tried to enter the EU in their current states they would not meet the requirements.
@@machovalkarie7896 In the case of the EU, one easy to mention is Cyprus, many countries clearly should not have the Euro: Spain, Greece, Portugal...
@@machovalkarie7896 Greece, Italy, and even France violate the fiscal rules.
Then there are others that aren't part of the schengen area such as Romania, Ireland, Bulgaria and Cyprus.
But these countries aren't the only ones.
Wait? Did you think I have no answer? Lol... when I say something, I know that it's true. I don't spread lies like others.
I can make a mistake, but I would admit that, I wouldn't try to hide it.
@@devalapar7878 but you know why is romania and bulgaria not in schengen? because there are countries like austria who dont want to let them in
"Wait for the best moment and seize the opportunity".
Thats basically like saying "...or else".
Okay bye
Most people don't realize is that this could become another Cuban missile crisis type of shit
Serbian geography being surrounded by Nato and Eu would make it good candidate to be used like cuba was .
it really depends on what Serbian Government does .
And to be fair It is a bit of hypocritical by Eu criticism of Serbia when Ukraine which didn't have election since Zelensky came to power and is supported to join EU
We rightly condemn Russia for using military force to nick off chunks of its sovereign neighbors with Russian speaking minorities. However NATO committed the same crime by occupying and forcibly partitioning Serbia. Kosovo is a part of Serbia under NATO occupation. Period. I say that having ZERO love for Serbia, but either sovereign borders mean something or they don't. If the Council of Europe admits a forcibly detached part of Serbia as a member they validate Russia's invasion and criminal partition of sovereign Georgia and the invasion and annexation of swaths of Ukraine. Why this ill-timed little gesture of hypocrisy appeals to Strasbourg now is especially inexplicable. And what shall we say to the Georgians about Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Might makes right? Rules are for the other guy? Kosovo is Serbian territory whether we like it or not.
EXACTLY!
Consistency! Russia out of Ukraine.
NATO out of Kosovo !
Dont let the door hit you on the way out
Don't be so salty, you guys are just too unstable with all this WW3 talk going on.
Also you might wanna check on the guys that are taking our place - YOU yourselves are currently sanctioning them for human rights violations and propagating regional conflict, unlike us.
(As if one needed more proof of EU collective schizophrenia right now.)
Yeah Serbia copy Russia and see where that gets you.
4.6% annual GDP growth?
Serbs are laughing at the EU, because the EU is desperately trying to buy Serbia. The EU transfers billions of Euros in non-returnable support to Serbia and EU companies have opened hundreds of thousands of new jobs in Serbia, but Serbs love Putin and Russia and are not interested in the EU and the West, Vucic knows this!
@@danhobart4009
Nice. You can be in the same team with Belarus. lol
@@danhobart4009You really believe in an authoritarian country's figures? Especially given the fact the whole economy of Russia is like 3x smaller Spain or Poland?...
@@PolosLatinos Russia is like 3x smaller Spain or Poland?
There no two countries kosovo is serbia!
Very nice. Somebody finally mentioned the Council of Europe and gave a quick explanation. You don't join the EU unless you are in the Council of Europe first.
Oh no! Anyway..
We say the same, oh no! Anyway... 🇷🇸🇷🇺🇨🇳
Serbia and democracy. HA. HA. HA. HA. HA!
Poland turned from Visegrad to Weimar Group. Meaning stronger alignment with West Europe. But Serbia, Hungary and Slowakia cooperate unter Russian/Chinese order to dimantle the EU from inside Europe. That Serbia is something like Kaliningrad inside EU / NATO space was known for a long time. But now it comes more concrete.
Your comment shows the actual problem here. Everything you wrote is completely Brussels-centric. Serbia was bombed with uranium by NATO just 25 years ago. One sixth of our territory was illegaly taken from us. The Serbs in Kosovo are living in a persistent nightmare and have no rights. Do you think Serbia somehow choosed to be a "Kaliningrad" within Europe (even though it is not, but anyway)? Will you ever hold NATO and the EU accountable for what they have done, or is it only Russia that counts???
But Serbia is pro western, EU is cntrolling Serbia.
Your reasoning comes from "You are free until I say so", life and politics doesn't function in that way. Trying to blackmail someone will get you spit in the face sometimes. Balkan people are too proud to agree with that which results in this reality of relations. This only proves that dEmOcRaCy is just a facade and way to exploit your way to your interests which is pretty obvious, piss off. That's it.
Poland hyena of Europe 1st servant of West and actually 1 the the First ally of Nazi Germany yep colorful story of some pawn.
EU had over 80% support in Serbian population until 2008 unilateral declaration of independence of it's south province of Kosovo. EU supported Kosovo over Serbia by putting lot of pressure on Serbia to accept and recognize Kosovo's independence. Serbian people was disappointed by these EU measures and popular support started a steady decline. Instead of doing something to improve this, EU continued with pressure and made Serbia to sit down with government of Kosovo in order to normalize relations. Brussels agreement was signed in 2013, making concessions to Kosovo but guarantees for Union of Serbian municipalities. Most of concessions to Kosovo government were fulfilled but Serbs never got their most important condition fulfilled. Albin Kurti said on many occasions that he will not create Union of Serbian municipalities as he never agreed on that and he didn't signed that Brussels agreement. Instead of sanctioning Kosovo or cutting support for Kosovo, EU kept the pressure on Belgrade. As a result of EU policy toward it's Serbian supporters, people feel insulted, lied to, tricked, sold out. Everything Serbian ultra nationalists were warning people of came true. So supporting EU after everything that happened is not logical at all.
Then after war in Ukraine started, western politicians all united to preserve the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine. Western politicians are saying to Serbia to accept Kosovo's independence since territorial integrity and sovereignty are things of past, it doesn't matter, lets move forward. Now somehow, when it's not the Serbs, and the invader isn't NATO, now it's not obsolete, now war is a very good option, peace is not. Well as someone who was a refugee and felt NATO bombs falling just 300m from my home, I can say that EU is sending mixed signals.
Best example of western hypocrisy is the shelling of Sarajevo in 1992-1995 by Bosnian Serbs. As a result of this, Serbs were bombed by NATO, UN sanctions were imposed for excessive use of force against civilians, as it was explained. Well Ukraine armed forces are shelling predominantly Russian city of Donetsk 2014-2024. They fired most likely 3 times more shells on the city, killed more civilians then Bosnian Serbs, more than 700 childred so far. What the west did? How was Ukrain punished for using excessive force against it's citizens? Did NATO bombed them, NO, they are arming them and training them. Did UN imposed sanctions on them NO, they send them billions of financial aid. All this made Serbs who once supported joining the EU think about double standards used toward Serbs. So no, thank you, Serbs don't want to be a member of EU who is acting as enemy of Serbia.
Maybe you shouldn't have tried to massacre the Albanians in 1999? Ever thought of that?
@@uschurchEver thought that Albanians in Kosovo rebeled from 1920 to 1922?
Then in 1941 they welcomed Germans as liberators and with German help started to force out the Serbs.
Then they rebeled again in 1968.
And again in 1981.
And again in the mid 1990s.
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You shouldn’t have illegally annexed Kosovo. As you can see they don’t want you there
@@user-irj1nxa3cof2z Nah, we just retook what was taken from us.
@@milostomic8539
What year serbia gained independence from ottomans? 😊
Well done 👍🏼, thanks for this information ❤
If they're gonna accept Kosovo well... I completly get it. Then Transnistria, North Osethia or like a North Cyprus.
In 1990s Moscow occupied Moldova, Georgia.
Add to your list "Crimea, Donetsk, Luhanks, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia" so their is not ambiguity what you propose.
@@sergeykishnone of those are indepent seperatist states, those are just region what russia occupies fully or partial and lays claim to what he mentioned were independent states. He'll the ones in georgia are no different to kosovo. And before you say they are just russian puppet,they aren't, in fact in the 90s the Russians were geogia allies and helped end their separatism. They wanted separatism even when russia was opposing it.
@@baileygregory9192 in 90s Moscow "civilians" invaded Georgia like they did in 2014 Ukraine.
These world leaders can be so petty
"Tell me you're a supervillain without telling me you're a supervillain."
"I was in the ultranationalist Serbian Radical Party."
A party called "Radical Party" is actually not that rare. France had one as ots ruling party during the late interwar period
@@danielutriabrooks477 the guy is a serbian version of a nazi. Google his videos from the 90s.
As a Croat Im amazed that that party still exists and is so influential in Serbia.
With Seselj as a leader, the very Seselj who was convicted for ethnic cleansing and murders in Croatia and Vojvodina. Those ppl are like modern nazi party. Still kicking in Serbia.
If Croatia is asked, sole reason theyll never see EU is that guy. Still harboring sickening animosity towards general population of Croatia which are all serbs in his sick mind.
And yea - one idiots rants are not relevant. Him still being politically strong means alot of ppl stand by his moronic ideas.
@@123batinaIstina. Samo on nije jedini. Ovi glupani iz EU ne razumiju ništa. Čobani dobivaju lovu iz fondova EU a onda s novcem koji bi sami morali uložiti u te projekte kupuju oružje od Rusa i Kineza
@@123batina Vojvodina is Serbian,from person from Vojvodina,stop lying around,and SRS(Serbian Radical Party) wins less than 2,5% in elections so its not that popular.
and this is why you can't just accept anyone at any moment
All of this is overblown and not as important in Serbia. There is no ultimatum, you are just seeing things. Serbia is not in position to issue any ultimatum. Also, Vučić when he came to power wanted to recognize Kosovo, but as he saw that he could lose next elections because of that he backed down. He (and serbs in Kosovo and Metohija) are just desperate that we are not getting almost any support in EU, while they call on both sides to agree and normalize, but at the same time, Kosovo gov didn't do anything but signed the agreement in 2013 and didn't do anything from that agreement. Serbia did everything we were asked, and Kosovo gov is openly saying they are not going to fulfill what they signed. So stop presenting us as aggressors. We plead for your help.
And what was the EU/Kosovo's obligation?
serbia isn’t implementing 29 out of 33 agreements, while Kosova isn’t implementing only one, bug difference
@@narthyseni8250 source? gimme a list of the agreements
@@bullshitdepartment the acceptance of diplomas, the license plates that finally were recognized just in the end of last year, recogntion of identity papers like ID and passport, free trade without any problem between both states, and many others
@@narthyseni8250 That's horrible, but I want a list of those 29/33 agreements from an independent third party whos job it is to observe the implementation of said agreement.
Well, given that every Serb with a university degree will look for a job in the EU/CH/UK/US arena, it is a greater loss for Serbia, than it is for the EU. The Serbian administration, however, can profit from it, like the US does, by taxing the income of their citizens living abroad. Which, of course, will have a permanent effect on their demographics, because most young people will denounce their Serbian citizenship, when they become eligible for their host country one.
Yh but its not in the eu so its a lot harder for people from serbia than for example croatia to do the same thing
How do you westerns come up with bullshit like this?
Actually, Serbia is very generous with double citizenships. They're inflating numbers artificially. In case of a major conflict these double citizens are going to be seriously fooked up. Not to mention that in peacefull time they pay double taxes. For a while country profits on remittances, but than what?
@@filip4413There are bilateral agreements between EU countries and Balkan countries, easing emigration. Considering the fact that every year 70 000 Serbs pack their suitcases, it's not that difficult.
@@stevet5785your name is steve, not stjepan or stefan? you are westerner too😂
Yes, it's unequivocally over. Serbia has chosen the Kremlin if you look closely at the composition of the new Serbian government.
You don't think that we will be for those who are hostile towards us. Even if they renounced Kosovo, they would not accept us into that creation, that is more than clear.
The way they have been behaving better so.
No offense to Serbia but EU is better off without them, we don't need a Hungary 2.0 situation.
Serbs dont want eu
you only want puppet countries. we know
@@SRBOMBONICA86good, let's keep it that way
@@reallifehack4790 good 😊
Okay bye bye
Choosing Kosovo over Serbia is one brain dead move ngl
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Kosovo cant even share shit with EU and is a drug-mafia paradise. It would just bring more problems.
@@C0pperChpper
You should ask the British companies mining there 😉
@@C0pperChpper
Serbia is a drug hub for intercontinental trade 😊😊😊
The EU doesn't need Serbia. The only reason to cooperate with Serbia is to motivate their transition towards a more open and democratic society.
If Serbia doesn't want that, then they are welcome to lie down Infront of the Moscow train.
We are much more open then anyone in the west
@@dzonikg In what ways exactly? I don't know a lot about Serbia except what I read about the government.
The EU doesn't need Serbia??? Lol more then 75% Serbs are laughing at the EU, because the EU is desperately trying to buy Serbia. The EU transfers billions of Euros in non-returnable support to Serbia and EU companies have opened hundreds of thousands of new jobs in Serbia, but Serbs love Putin and Russia and are not interested in the EU and the West, Vucic knows this!
@@a5cent He is right. You need to experience Serbia. We have a diverse media landscape, people are allowed to think what ever the hell they want, people are smoking indoors, travelling and bringing money over bordes is very easy. Politics are a little bit chaotic, but not worse that other balkan countries.. This is really a free country. I lived in Sweden for 22 years, uncomparable..
@@bingo737
I believe you. Sounds like a nice place to visit.
Even though it seems like everyone is blaming Serbia for its decidion and only marginally recognizing ASM its good to finally hear why Serbia is doing it ofcourse focusing on the effects and no the cause is a little wrong since you're not really giving the background of the issue but rather the background of Serbia overall 25 years ago...
Its like saying that because of what any country did in the 90's its a bad country.
60% of Serbs don't want to join the EU, because too long they postpone the joining and we would need to give one part of our territory. With this Serbia can start recognizing Bavaria or Wallonia as separate states if they ever decide to self-proclaimed their independence. Same for the French territories and ext.
An Association of Serb-Majority Municipalities, is a planned inter-municipal association of ethnic Serb majority municipalities in Kosovo. The proposal for the association came as a result of the 2013 Brussels Agreement negotiated and concluded by the governments of Kosovo and Serbia. This is what the MAIN PROBLEM. YOU EVEN DO NOT MENTION IT!!!
Like they were with the EU in the first place
i have to say, I understand Serbia. Several years ago, I decided ago abandon Scarlett Johansson.
Did you watch the whole video? They say explicitly that, if Serbia leaves the Council of Europe, then Serbia can kiss goodbye its chance of being part of the EU. The title of the video is basically a shortcut to attract views, but I guess you just read the the title…
Threats with no teeth.
Yes 💪
Europe wants to accept Serbia’s southern provice into their council LOL
We don’t need another Hungary in the EU
you like puppet countries, we know...
When Serbia has ever been in EU? It’s never been