This show has changed everything about how I play guitar. I used to have 3 pedals blues driver, tube screamer, and a hall of fame all running into a Marshall 40W combo. This was a utilitarian rig but uninspiring to me. Now I have a wet dry rig with 9 pedals, and I just get lost in the sounds. I can play for hours and always find something new. Thank you guys for doing the show and ruining my marriage LOL
I'm on the same path man. Use to turn on the crunch channel and find the "heavy sound" on it. Now i build my pedalboard with Ts9 > Od3 > clean channel, with good mids, less bass, plenty of tones in that clean channel now. I can't even decide how to set both overdrives hahahah i keep finding new things between TWO pedals, just TWO. And the Flanger adds a lot of colors in it. This channel is making my life funnier. Thanks to those guys.
HAHAHA, same here man. just had one overdrive with a reverb and delay. Now my board is like a real touring board with all kinds of pedals, with expression and tap... the whole bit. I bought a GigRig G2 and a midi controllable amp!!! I'm on a path to sure illness, they may have to admit me to the looney bin soon...
So I use 2 analog delays and 2 reverbs. Longish (500 me) in front of a orange 50w and slap back in to he effects loop. I run that into 4 10's for the bottom end and darkness 10's give you. It makes analog delays sound great.
Indeed Ben. Start with a good tube amp receptive to pedals. I recently went ground up with a gothic SG and Marshall DSL 2000. I run 4 pedals (fuzzes, PS-5, mxr chorus) before an ES-8, which has ten pedals in it (all of them sweet), then after all that are the always on Diamond compressor, EQD tone job (eq pedal) and the Hire Wire Mesa Boogie Buffer (amazing). My tone is pretty spot on and unique as I went with the happy accidents whilst also studying tone overall (which meant ditching and switching pedals at times) and having that meet in a happy middle. About the only thing i'm missing is a quality analog delay. That Cub pedal is enticing. thanks you boys, keep it up.
One of these days for a special or something you guys should put together a compilation of Dan's "YEEEAAAAHHHHH"s like the one at 24:58. I always get a kick out of it :)
Would be interesting to know which pedal out of the whole show has warranted the biggest YEEEAAAHHHH! It's likely the one to buy! It might just be the excitement of just running the Lazy J together with the Marshall 're-housed in a different box' in a small room in the shows early days though. :)
As as electrical engineer and musician, I'd love to hear more of Dan going into the technical details of each pedal. Maybe a side show for tech guys that appreciate things like clock noise ;) I'd love to run these pedals through an osciloscope!
Dan... Mick... I (and I'm sure others) would LOVE to see a short jam at the end of each video with the 2 of you with your favorite sounds dialed in... off the cuff, nothing fancy, just to let a little of your very obvious inspiration out. Great players, great tones, deserves a small taste of improvised or otherwise "music".
You guys should never apologize for running long. I'm honestly bummed when the runtime is only about 30 mins. The deep dives are when you guys dish out the best info!! Absolutely love the show, keep up the fantastic work!
I watch this channel more than I watch any other type of TV and it's the only thing getting me through dissertation writing. So chilled. I'll be celebrating with a trip to Andertons to empty my wallet based on recommendations from here. Cheers guys.
Your show could easily be called "What You Didn't Know that You Didn't Know About Guitars and Gear" I have learned so much that I didn't even know there was to learn from you guys. Look forward to Friday mornings watching your show every week.
Mick, let Dan explain the clock noise! ;) Some of us really like the technical stuff....of course, I would watch hour long videos of Dan explaining pedal circuitry so... Great video as always
There is something about the delay episodes, especially the ep3 vs. the world of delays show, that really makes me run back to my music room to jam. I'm always getting inspiration here, but after these, I find myself sitting on the floor tinkering and carefully listening to individual repeats on all my delays! Fun times!!
I must show my gratitude to THAT PEDAL SHOW, for having explain with objectivity and clarity so many gear topics, specially differences, using gear tools, improving tone and music appreciation in a open minded way. You guys keep inspiring us to be better players and more knowledgeable about our music craft. You have become leaders of past gear knowledge and the futute to come in gear. Best Regards.
+1 on the "always on pedals" show!! Would love to see that! (I bought a Timmy after watching your early vids about "unobtanium" and the like, and it became my "always on" pedal, but that may have to do with buffering rather than the specific drive tones I get.
Finally a Moog pedal review and only a week after having another one on a pedal board. Thank you. Love the show, it is one of the highlights of my week. Your humor is infectious! Keep up the fine work.
I've been a big fan of the Way Huge Supa Puss for a few years now, but literally today was thinking of looking for a new analog delay! Thanks so much for making this
Thank you guys. It seems like I've been playing most of my life; but your show gives me pause where I revisit and rethink the whole process. There is not an episode where I haven't learned the mystery to something that I've wondered about but wasn't able to define. This is a particularly good distraction this morning as we here in Florida are bracing for the wrath of Hurricane Irma. Please don't ever stop doing this.
Picked up a DM-2w just a couple of days ago, can't go wrong!!!!! I like to have a clean digital delay as a short, almost slap-backy thing, and then let an analogue delay create a subtle ambient swell underneath that. Bliss, utter bliss :)
Bravo to you Mick for pronouncing Moog correctly. In the same way that Fender was Leo's last name, Moog was the last name of synth pioneer Robert Moog. He pronounced it "moge" so I guess we should too. Thanks for getting it right.
One for your "always on" show. The Thorpy Peacekeeper. Mine is permanently on clean or otherwise. Low gain, treble/mid bias on the eq, plenty of level lovely. Adds a little something to a clean tone (especially on an amp with a lot of headroom) and does a great job of tightening up a ferocious high gain amp.
I'm In search for a new delay. Spent this morning going through your old videos on delay thinking: "Isn't there a new video on analog?" And here it is. Thanks guys!! Awesome as always :)
I can't wait for you guys to feature the new Boss/JHS Angry Driver. Seems like a serious conversation starter to say the least. Great episode as always!
Thanks for going down the clock, sample rate and filter rabbit hole. I've always loved the sound of analog delays and it was interesting to hear the science!
Interesting that you mentioned the preamp in the Memory Man. I've used a MM since forever. I recently picked up a Memory Toy for real estate purposes on my pedal board (thanks to you guys, I need it now). I leave it on with a very light, and in the background, slap back all the time primarily to get the preamp from it. It's awesome and I love it.
Excellent video. I've been agonizing about which delay pedal best suits my playing style, and this is the only thing I've found that demos all the ones I'm considering. Thank-you!
55:21 THATS THE PEDAL SETUP OF THE DAY KILLER SOUND! having the phase 90 in the EL of the SD delay was what made it for me giving the delay trails a vocal character KILLER!
The Ventura Vibe also sounds great in the effects loop of the Vapor Trail. Big sound with the Vapor Trail using an 18V power supply. Would like to see a segment devoted to Automatic Double tracking... some of my delay pedals do it at ~30ms and some don't, would like to understand why. A to do: put my Empress Phaser in the the effects loop of the Vapor Trail...unfortunately I don't own a Phase 90.
First off, I love this channel, and have recommended it to my guitar playing friends. I enjoy listening to/talking about/trying out pedals/sounds/amps/guitars as much as any of us guitar junkies. I've been playing for about 48 years, currently in 2 bands and own and run a recording studio. That being said, I have been feeling that something has been somewhat missed here, and it could be summed up in a word: context. The thing about guitar, especially electric guitar, is that it all happens in a wider context. You guys do a great job of including the amps and guitars in your presentation of various effects pedals. However, what I find to be mostly missing is the greater context of other instruments/players/vocals, etc. A particular amp/pedal/guitar combination can sound really awesome on it's own, on your show, or in the studio, but when you add it into a live band situation, or a multi-track recording, "your mileage may vary". I know you guys know this. I would really like to hear you address it a bit more in your shows, and perhaps even find a way to focus on this aspect more in your testing and evaluating. Thanks for the great work!
+Terry Lawhon thanks Terry, and we absolutely hear you. We've been talking about how we can do this this for a long time, almost since the inception of the show. It's just space and logistics, but we are working on it. Cheers Terry :)
If I could decide one kind of pedal, that would be a Delay, of course. Thanks for this great show, and showing us more options for analog delays, aside the Deluxe Memory Man and the Carbon Copy. The Panther Cub sounds amazing, imo. Easter egg for today show @20:10 Jessie's girl :P
Awesome demo guys! I'm a huge Boss delay guy, standard live "big board" I use the vintage DM-2 and a DD-3 for long delays in the loop of my Marshall or the front end of my Fender amps along with a Subdecay Spring Theory for reverb (does a cool room echo for solos also). That said for my small board I wanted True Bypass pedals so I've settled on the Retro-Sonic Vintage Vibes analog delay and a Lovepedal Gen5 Delay for long delays, gets me real close or better than the boss setup without the "too many" buffers issue. I also run a Subdecay Spring Theory on that board to. So, I have to agree with Dan, the SD Vapor Trail would be my pick! There is a good video on youtube that compares it with the Analogman and another delay, claims the components are the same? Check it out, thanks again guys! Joe
I woke up this morning and thought to myself, "I wish Dan and Mick would do a show including the much sought-after Memory Man," and compare chips and such, because I'm getting into the hunt for an analog delay pedal." Then BOOM. Here it is. Y'all are psychic.
Awesome episode guys. Love that you ended up with very similar settings to what I use with my Moog Delay! That mix knob is vicious sometimes it can go from an amazing delay blanket to a wild cavernous blood bath!!
Great ep!! From what I can see on their amps website, Jackson has split into two sister companies, Jackson Ampworks (amps...obviously) and Jackson Audio (pedals). The success of the pedals and subsequent split apparently allowed them to lower the price of the MK II amps.
I just love you guys sorry had to say this. You have probably the most serious guitar show available and you are also very likeable characters. Cheer io from Greece
I have been watching That Pedal Show for quite some time now with great pleasure and intrigue. After all this I'm left with the question: Using the amp for drive VS a pedal for drive. I would be fascinated to hear your points of view. Keep up the good work!
+Andreas Kyriakou Any way you like it. If you just have one drive sound that you love and the amp does it... happy days! However , most of the sounds we love tend to be a combination of guitar - pedal - amp (think about Jimi, Gilmour, SRV etc etc etc). So for us it's not an either/or thing. It's very much either/or/both/all!
I love your guys videos so much! Simply fantastic! Every time I see that little dot on your channel, I get real happy. You guys are consistent with new videos and always entertaining. Thanks so much for putting in the time. You guys basically have the job I wish I had. Lol. That being said! There are a few delays that I simply can't wait to see in your videos. Many feature a self oscillation footswitch as an option and I'd love love love to see you guys screw with them. -Belle Epoch Deluxe - I got one of these on launch day and it's absolutely incredible. I feel like Dan will lose his mind over the build quality, recreation of the exact original EP3 preamp circuit and the various Memory Man inspired options built-in to the pedal. Connecting an expression pedal to this pedal is one of the most amazing things I've ever heard. -DOD Rubberneck - Simply gorgeous and incredibly well-thought-out all analog delay with tap tempo. It also has subdivision selections. The self-oscillation hold switch and "Rubberneck" hold switch are insane and super musical. Again, I feel like Dan would completely lose it over this thing. Haha. -Caroline Kilobyte - My fav delay currently. The "havoc" momentary switch is simply the most musical and wonderfully tuned feature I've ever used. Simply a beautiful pedal with a growing fan base. (Tip, turn the delay and distortion almost all the way up, the delay time all the way down, and the repeats at 9oclock and you've turned the pedal into a distorted slapback pedal with a havoc switch that now self oscillates a harmonized feedback with each note you play.) -Tonal Recall RKM - Obvious reasons that I won't even waste time typing. Haha. An incredible incredible pedal and worth revisiting after the updates. If you guys did a video with these pedals, I might have a heart attack, wake up, drink some beers and watch the video, and then die completely happy. Truly, thanks for your time. Lol
This video is fantastic, it explains everything I hear in delay and why. When I was a far, far younger man I bought a Boss DD3. Because you're supposed to have a delay pedal and all your hero's use them...... I didn't like it at all. I spent most of my time practicing unplugged or through one of Marshall's Park branded little amp's (we're talking 90's here), as opposed to my big Marshall DSL with my wah, delay, tubescreamer etc... Whenever I heard what I'd just played coming back at me in perfect fidelity it totally screwed my playing up, as Mick said "it's gets in the way". Fast forward to today and I bought a Mooer ANA echo, again the songs I'm covering in the band require it, but the difference is UNREAL. Analog delay sounds soo good, it's an actual component in your tone as opposed to being just a perfect repeat. All these sound fantastic compared to the Providence to me. Great video :-)
Ordered a Panther Cub V2 after watching this. It’ll go with my Sunset I bought after watching your video on that. Not sure if I should watch more of these episodes 😂👌
1:00:33 sounds exactly like the special effects noise of the flying saucer in Forbidden Planet. Lots of interesting toys today 'cept I just bought a TC alter ego x4 which is pretty much "yah boo sux" to everything apart from a real Binson. And for a show about delays, we sure did learn a lot about boost/overdrives. Which is nice. Great work as ever guys.
A minute ago I thought of a guitar player you guys should check out. His name is Neil Zaza. He's sort of unknown it seems, but he's been around for nearly 30 years and released all kinds of solo records, and he even has a signature overdrive pedal that Mooer makes and a really awesome signature guitar from Kiesel guitars. He's an amazing player.
Not sure if you guys have ever used this but the Empress Tape Delay is pretty amazing for its size. Pretty sure its analogue with a digital brain. Pretty wicked. Worth a try.
Mick, you and the Gretsch are the perfect pair! And great to see you using the Carbon Copy. Have that as well... and I might join you with the Gretsch ;) Such a beautiful guitar, Snowcrest White!
Those Moog minifooger pedals are amazing. I have the trem and the delay. Properly meaty sounds out of them! Spent a day in a great music store in Portland Maine, Buckdancers, choosing them. The things we do on holiday!
I've had all of those analog delays, except the Panther Cub. The little Moog is FABULOUS and includes expression pedal control too (as is the Moog Chorus in the same Minifooger line), but in that same price class I'd recommend the Malekko Ekko Dark delay--just a gorgeous sounding, clear and somewhat dark delay. I wish the MXR Carbon Copy had some of the Seymour Duncan adjustability, but I find the MXR sounds better to my ears. Also of note, the Carbon Copy can double quite nicely as an analog chorus at a short delay setting.
One thing to keep in mind with the Moog MF Delay is that it is often used with Moog synths like the Mother 32, where the Drive circuit takes on a different characteristic with a smoother synth signal as opposed to a more percussive guitar input.
Monumental finale gentlemen! Just recently picked up a Walrus Audio Bellwether Analog Delay, similar feature set to the JHS Panther Cub. Phenomenal pedal! Analog Delay is such a great sound, glad you touched on some of the newer offerings out there! I think "That Pedal Show" boxers would be a nice addition to your fashion line! 😂
Mick is on to something when he questions Dan mentioning sample rates. Technically speaking, a bucket brigade delay is analog in the amplitude dimension (as the full signal is captured as an electrical charge) but is digital in the time dimension (as the signal is sampled and passed on in discrete units).
Hey Dan, hey Mick, just wanted to thank your for your awesome show. First of all, it's always nice to listen to your amazing sounds you get - with most of the time pedals, I haven't even heard of before. Your content just rules, for most of the questions that pop up in my mind about amps/pedals/whatever, there is a That Pedal Show Episode to answer it, keep em coming! But also your Show is so inspiring, before TPS, guitar sound to me was, really, there is an amp, that makes noise, there is a pedal, that makes my amp make even more noise, let's do this! And since I watch your Show, I just listen much more to what things really do, how they interact with each other, and how I can achieve a better guitar sound, thanks for that! Oh, and thanks for the incitement (is that correct? - german.) to throw out enormous amounts of money for various Pedals over the last two or three years! :D As an idea for the future: A Show on building a nice rig around already driving amps (Marshall!
Very pleased that Dan chose the Vapor Trail, as it vindicates my decision to swap out the Alter Ego V2 (a great delay pedal, by the way) and replace it with a Vapor Trail. Thanks so much; thoroughly interesting show, as always!
Thanks guys! Would have liked to be in the room on this one. Minor Note: add the D'Adario Chromatic Tuner to your lineup (lower right, between G2 and Three2One) below. As far as the pedals discussed, 1st impressions: MXR Carbon Copy sonically is straightforward, to the point. I think that's why so many people enjoy using it. My own preference is the "Bright" version that Mick mentioned to offset the traditional darker analog trails. I think Mick's assessment of the Moog is spot on, although I have only personally heard the MF-104M version ((www.moogmusic.com/products/moogerfoogers/mf-104m-analog-delay). Two other functionalities that the Moog delay offers is an expression pedal and MIDI capability. I know the time is limited, but I would also give a listen to Tripps' original AquaPuss (www.jimdunlop.com/product/whe701-7-10137-04616-0.do), the SupaPuss (www.jimdunlop.com/product/whe707-7-10137-05414-1.do) which has an expression function or even the Echo-Puss. I like the idea of a future "Always On" episode. I would e interested in seeing a contrast of pedals like the Prism with MXR's EP101 ExhoplexPreamp and/or MXR's new M293 Booster Mini (the Echoplex Preamp in a mini footprint), and an Original JHS Colorbox and the Hudson Broadcast.
The two Analogue Delays I've come to keep on my board are the Way Huge Echo-Puss and the Walrus Audio Bellwether. Both for different reasons, the Echo-Puss because of its clarity and tone shaping but also because for self oscillation is just AMAZING. If you've ever heard Yngwie do his crazy effect solo on his delay, he does some crazy explosion sounds and this nails that and also just is so musical while oscillating. I was wondering if the circuits of the Carbon Copy and Echo-Puss were the same... The Puss has a couple more knobs to twiddle but essentially the same, as do both have 600ms delay time. I won't go into the Bellwether other than it is a monster 1000ms delay (BB), with tap, modulation, and an effects loop! I mean using an overdrive in the delays is awesome, or any effect you choose while keeping your dry signal unaffected. You guys should definitely consider featuring it.
Great video again guys!!! I always look forward to Friday afternoons...early finish, coffee and That Pedal Show! Could you guys do a video on your pedal board through a solid state amp such as a Peavey Bandit and make a comparison to your valve amps?
42:10 "Oh, there's programming…" - Mick Ok, we need a T-shirt of this moment right here! Such a perfect TPS moment! And then, on the back the shirt would say, "Nope, that's not for you." - Dan It will sell like hilarious hot cakes.
Great episode... Two of my all time favorites-- the DM 2 and Mini Fooger. Also: Gretsches really do have a sound all their own don't they? Great playing on Whispering too Mick
You guys really need to get the full size Moogerfooger Delay pedal. It is the one pedal in my collection that is NEVER going anywhere! A must have IMO. The JHS Panther on the other hand, not so much.
After about half-an-hour I was beginning to think that all the diversity of sounds could probably only be heard in the room. Then you unplugged the (horrible) Gretsch and changed to your fabulous Strat, and everything improved. The sounds, your playing and all the tones! NOW we're talkin!
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This show has changed everything about how I play guitar. I used to have 3 pedals blues driver, tube screamer, and a hall of fame all running into a Marshall 40W combo. This was a utilitarian rig but uninspiring to me. Now I have a wet dry rig with 9 pedals, and I just get lost in the sounds. I can play for hours and always find something new. Thank you guys for doing the show and ruining my marriage LOL
I'm on the same path man. Use to turn on the crunch channel and find the "heavy sound" on it. Now i build my pedalboard with Ts9 > Od3 > clean channel, with good mids, less bass, plenty of tones in that clean channel now. I can't even decide how to set both overdrives hahahah i keep finding new things between TWO pedals, just TWO. And the Flanger adds a lot of colors in it. This channel is making my life funnier. Thanks to those guys.
HAHAHA, same here man. just had one overdrive with a reverb and delay. Now my board is like a real touring board with all kinds of pedals, with expression and tap... the whole bit. I bought a GigRig G2 and a midi controllable amp!!! I'm on a path to sure illness, they may have to admit me to the looney bin soon...
Brandon Lewis thinking of putting my AB/Y box to use to send my wet signal to my smaller 10" speaker
So I use 2 analog delays and 2 reverbs. Longish (500 me) in front of a orange 50w and slap back in to he effects loop. I run that into 4 10's for the bottom end and darkness 10's give you. It makes analog delays sound great.
Indeed Ben. Start with a good tube amp receptive to pedals.
I recently went ground up with a gothic SG and Marshall DSL 2000. I run 4 pedals (fuzzes, PS-5, mxr chorus) before an ES-8, which has ten pedals in it (all of them sweet), then after all that are the always on Diamond compressor, EQD tone job (eq pedal) and the Hire Wire Mesa Boogie Buffer (amazing). My tone is pretty spot on and unique as I went with the happy accidents whilst also studying tone overall (which meant ditching and switching pedals at times) and having that meet in a happy middle.
About the only thing i'm missing is a quality analog delay. That Cub pedal is enticing. thanks you boys, keep it up.
That Moog sounded like a warm comforter by a fireplace. Just beautiful.
You should have posted the vid at 1pm GMT, so people asked why the delay 🤔
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+Darren Mews Bravo. We laughed!
One of these days for a special or something you guys should put together a compilation of Dan's "YEEEAAAAHHHHH"s like the one at 24:58. I always get a kick out of it :)
Would be interesting to know which pedal out of the whole show has warranted the biggest YEEEAAAHHHH! It's likely the one to buy! It might just be the excitement of just running the Lazy J together with the Marshall 're-housed in a different box' in a small room in the shows early days though. :)
Piplodocus That would be the Joey Landreth in a box pedal.
Yes please - Mick - we need a "supercut" of Dan's "YEEEEAAAAAH!!!!!" 's
joe brennan best rock scream since The Who
Toss in the one at 10:58 too. :)
I die laughing everytime Daniel gets all happy and screams his head off!!! Dude literally LOVES his job and I am extremely jealous lol
As as electrical engineer and musician, I'd love to hear more of Dan going into the technical details of each pedal. Maybe a side show for tech guys that appreciate things like clock noise ;) I'd love to run these pedals through an osciloscope!
NoiseMaker001 agreed here
NoiseMaker001 if you want to go deeper with the clock noise thing, check on Shannon-Nyquist-Theorem online :)
Dan... Mick... I (and I'm sure others) would LOVE to see a short jam at the end of each video with the 2 of you with your favorite sounds dialed in... off the cuff, nothing fancy, just to let a little of your very obvious inspiration out. Great players, great tones, deserves a small taste of improvised or otherwise "music".
You guys should never apologize for running long. I'm honestly bummed when the runtime is only about 30 mins. The deep dives are when you guys dish out the best info!! Absolutely love the show, keep up the fantastic work!
I watch this channel more than I watch any other type of TV and it's the only thing getting me through dissertation writing. So chilled. I'll be celebrating with a trip to Andertons to empty my wallet based on recommendations from here. Cheers guys.
+David Gray hahaha, cheers David :)
+David Gray Splendid! Good luck with the dissertation David!
David Gray A visit to Andertons is always a cause for celebration!
Your show could easily be called "What You Didn't Know that You Didn't Know About Guitars and Gear" I have learned so much that I didn't even know there was to learn from you guys. Look forward to Friday mornings watching your show every week.
Thumbs up for the Waza DM-2. One of the finest analog delays ever!
AeonKage picked one up yesterday and it's everything I've been looking for :D
Mick, let Dan explain the clock noise! ;) Some of us really like the technical stuff....of course, I would watch hour long videos of Dan explaining pedal circuitry so...
Great video as always
Why is it so relaxing watching a couple of guys try out pedals?
There is something about the delay episodes, especially the ep3 vs. the world of delays show, that really makes me run back to my music room to jam. I'm always getting inspiration here, but after these, I find myself sitting on the floor tinkering and carefully listening to individual repeats on all my delays! Fun times!!
I must show my gratitude to THAT PEDAL SHOW, for having explain with objectivity and clarity so many gear topics, specially differences, using gear tools, improving tone and music appreciation in a open minded way. You guys keep inspiring us to be better players and more knowledgeable about our music craft. You have become leaders of past gear knowledge and the futute to come in gear. Best Regards.
+1 on the "always on pedals" show!! Would love to see that! (I bought a Timmy after watching your early vids about "unobtanium" and the like, and it became my "always on" pedal, but that may have to do with buffering rather than the specific drive tones I get.
hi rob
You guys are just bizarrely prophetic, I've just begun the search for a cool 'character' delay and BOOM, up pops TPS with so options... brilliant!
Finally a Moog pedal review and only a week after having another one on a pedal board. Thank you. Love the show, it is one of the highlights of my week. Your humor is infectious! Keep up the fine work.
Came here to listen to some delay pedals and ended up learning how BBD works, love this show!!
I've been a big fan of the Way Huge Supa Puss for a few years now, but literally today was thinking of looking for a new analog delay! Thanks so much for making this
Thank you guys. It seems like I've been playing most of my life; but your show gives me pause where I revisit and rethink the whole process. There is not an episode where I haven't learned the mystery to something that I've wondered about but wasn't able to define.
This is a particularly good distraction this morning as we here in Florida are bracing for the wrath of Hurricane Irma.
Please don't ever stop doing this.
I hope guys will be able to demo the Carbon Copy Deluxe soon!
Picked up a DM-2w just a couple of days ago, can't go wrong!!!!! I like to have a clean digital delay as a short, almost slap-backy thing, and then let an analogue delay create a subtle ambient swell underneath that. Bliss, utter bliss :)
Nothing better than some good ole analog delay. I can listen and play with that sound indefinitely.
+DomSchu Us too! Thanks for watching!
Bravo to you Mick for pronouncing Moog correctly. In the same way that Fender was Leo's last name, Moog was the last name of synth pioneer Robert Moog. He pronounced it "moge" so I guess we should too. Thanks for getting it right.
+Alpha Kitty Aha! Thank you much. :0)
One for your "always on" show. The Thorpy Peacekeeper. Mine is permanently on clean or otherwise. Low gain, treble/mid bias on the eq, plenty of level lovely. Adds a little something to a clean tone (especially on an amp with a lot of headroom) and does a great job of tightening up a ferocious high gain amp.
It really is. It delivers on so so many levels.
I'm In search for a new delay. Spent this morning going through your old videos on delay thinking: "Isn't there a new video on analog?" And here it is. Thanks guys!! Awesome as always :)
The best 'let's switch em all on' section ever!
5:45 on a Friday evening. Got a quick nap, watched all my other subscription content, gonna make a nice simple sandwich, sit back and watch TPS!
Love this! Always preferred analog delay! You make it easy to understand. thanks
I can't wait for you guys to feature the new Boss/JHS Angry Driver. Seems like a serious conversation starter to say the least. Great episode as always!
mike s I like it, can't have enough videos about dual overdrives! Maybe try to get a hold of a Pelican Noiseworks 50/50 too ;)
I've preordered already!
Thanks for going down the clock, sample rate and filter rabbit hole. I've always loved the sound of analog delays and it was interesting to hear the science!
I never actually thought about where the name "bucket brigade" came from until Mick said it....and that makes total sense
I love it when Dan dives deep into pedal giblets
That overdrive sounds wonderful.
+Ben Lubin yep, magic
So glad you picked up on the vapor trail, had mine for a few months now and absolutely love it. Thanks for the weekly lesson
Interesting that you mentioned the preamp in the Memory Man. I've used a MM since forever. I recently picked up a Memory Toy for real estate purposes on my pedal board (thanks to you guys, I need it now). I leave it on with a very light, and in the background, slap back all the time primarily to get the preamp from it. It's awesome and I love it.
Excellent video. I've been agonizing about which delay pedal best suits my playing style, and this is the only thing I've found that demos all the ones I'm considering. Thank-you!
Best pedal shootout channel and to show us which one to pick. I love your channel guys
What about the show about always on pedals guys? Would LOVE to see it, I think it's such an interesting subject :)
55:21 THATS THE PEDAL SETUP OF THE DAY KILLER SOUND! having the phase 90 in the EL of the SD delay was what made it for me giving the delay trails a vocal character KILLER!
The Ventura Vibe also sounds great in the effects loop of the Vapor Trail. Big sound with the Vapor Trail using an 18V power supply. Would like to see a segment devoted to Automatic Double tracking... some of my delay pedals do it at ~30ms and some don't, would like to understand why. A to do: put my Empress Phaser in the the effects loop of the Vapor Trail...unfortunately I don't own a Phase 90.
First off, I love this channel, and have recommended it to my guitar playing friends. I enjoy listening to/talking about/trying out pedals/sounds/amps/guitars as much as any of us guitar junkies. I've been playing for about 48 years, currently in 2 bands and own and run a recording studio.
That being said, I have been feeling that something has been somewhat missed here, and it could be summed up in a word: context.
The thing about guitar, especially electric guitar, is that it all happens in a wider context. You guys do a great job of including the amps and guitars in your presentation of various effects pedals. However, what I find to be mostly missing is the greater context of other instruments/players/vocals, etc. A particular amp/pedal/guitar combination can sound really awesome on it's own, on your show, or in the studio, but when you add it into a live band situation, or a multi-track recording, "your mileage may vary".
I know you guys know this. I would really like to hear you address it a bit more in your shows, and perhaps even find a way to focus on this aspect more in your testing and evaluating.
Thanks for the great work!
+Terry Lawhon thanks Terry, and we absolutely hear you. We've been talking about how we can do this this for a long time, almost since the inception of the show. It's just space and logistics, but we are working on it.
Cheers Terry :)
Another great overview. Thank you! 👏🏻
If I could decide one kind of pedal, that would be a Delay, of course. Thanks for this great show, and showing us more options for analog delays, aside the Deluxe Memory Man and the Carbon Copy.
The Panther Cub sounds amazing, imo.
Easter egg for today show @20:10 Jessie's girl :P
Thank goodness you are back. It's been a long week. Great job gents.
Hi there Johan .. Thank you so much .. very interesting .. will be watching the whole series of this great experiment.
Awesome demo guys! I'm a huge Boss delay guy, standard live "big board" I use the vintage DM-2 and a DD-3 for long delays in the loop of my Marshall or the front end of my Fender amps along with a Subdecay Spring Theory for reverb (does a cool room echo for solos also). That said for my small board I wanted True Bypass pedals so I've settled on the Retro-Sonic Vintage Vibes analog delay and a Lovepedal Gen5 Delay for long delays, gets me real close or better than the boss setup without the "too many" buffers issue. I also run a Subdecay Spring Theory on that board to.
So, I have to agree with Dan, the SD Vapor Trail would be my pick! There is a good video on youtube that compares it with the Analogman and another delay, claims the components are the same? Check it out, thanks again guys!
Joe
Super excited for the "always on" show!
I woke up this morning and thought to myself, "I wish Dan and Mick would do a show including the much sought-after Memory Man," and compare chips and such, because I'm getting into the hunt for an analog delay pedal." Then BOOM. Here it is. Y'all are psychic.
Awesome episode guys. Love that you ended up with very similar settings to what I use with my Moog Delay! That mix knob is vicious sometimes it can go from an amazing delay blanket to a wild cavernous blood bath!!
I love that I now know what's going on in the studio, how you make the show! I feel like a insider!! 8)
Great ep!! From what I can see on their amps website, Jackson has split into two sister companies, Jackson Ampworks (amps...obviously) and Jackson Audio (pedals). The success of the pedals and subsequent split apparently allowed them to lower the price of the MK II amps.
seymour duncan vapor trails for me. sounds great with or without the phaser in the loop.
I just love you guys sorry had to say this. You have probably the most serious guitar show available and you are also very likeable characters. Cheer io from Greece
I have been watching That Pedal Show for quite some time now with great pleasure and intrigue. After all this I'm left with the question: Using the amp for drive VS a pedal for drive. I would be fascinated to hear your points of view. Keep up the good work!
+Andreas Kyriakou Any way you like it. If you just have one drive sound that you love and the amp does it... happy days! However , most of the sounds we love tend to be a combination of guitar - pedal - amp (think about Jimi, Gilmour, SRV etc etc etc). So for us it's not an either/or thing. It's very much either/or/both/all!
I love your guys videos so much! Simply fantastic! Every time I see that little dot on your channel, I get real happy. You guys are consistent with new videos and always entertaining. Thanks so much for putting in the time. You guys basically have the job I wish I had. Lol.
That being said! There are a few delays that I simply can't wait to see in your videos. Many feature a self oscillation footswitch as an option and I'd love love love to see you guys screw with them.
-Belle Epoch Deluxe - I got one of these on launch day and it's absolutely incredible. I feel like Dan will lose his mind over the build quality, recreation of the exact original EP3 preamp circuit and the various Memory Man inspired options built-in to the pedal. Connecting an expression pedal to this pedal is one of the most amazing things I've ever heard.
-DOD Rubberneck - Simply gorgeous and incredibly well-thought-out all analog delay with tap tempo. It also has subdivision selections. The self-oscillation hold switch and "Rubberneck" hold switch are insane and super musical. Again, I feel like Dan would completely lose it over this thing. Haha.
-Caroline Kilobyte - My fav delay currently. The "havoc" momentary switch is simply the most musical and wonderfully tuned feature I've ever used. Simply a beautiful pedal with a growing fan base. (Tip, turn the delay and distortion almost all the way up, the delay time all the way down, and the repeats at 9oclock and you've turned the pedal into a distorted slapback pedal with a havoc switch that now self oscillates a harmonized feedback with each note you play.)
-Tonal Recall RKM - Obvious reasons that I won't even waste time typing. Haha. An incredible incredible pedal and worth revisiting after the updates.
If you guys did a video with these pedals, I might have a heart attack, wake up, drink some beers and watch the video, and then die completely happy. Truly, thanks for your time. Lol
+Joseph Franz were on it!!
The moog is lovely, but that Vapour trail has it for me….!
This video is fantastic, it explains everything I hear in delay and why. When I was a far, far younger man I bought a Boss DD3. Because you're supposed to have a delay pedal and all your hero's use them...... I didn't like it at all. I spent most of my time practicing unplugged or through one of Marshall's Park branded little amp's (we're talking 90's here), as opposed to my big Marshall DSL with my wah, delay, tubescreamer etc... Whenever I heard what I'd just played coming back at me in perfect fidelity it totally screwed my playing up, as Mick said "it's gets in the way". Fast forward to today and I bought a Mooer ANA echo, again the songs I'm covering in the band require it, but the difference is UNREAL. Analog delay sounds soo good, it's an actual component in your tone as opposed to being just a perfect repeat. All these sound fantastic compared to the Providence to me. Great video :-)
Ordered a Panther Cub V2 after watching this. It’ll go with my Sunset I bought after watching your video on that. Not sure if I should watch more of these episodes 😂👌
The Moog pedals are all great, please include them in more videos! Or do a video about the whole Moog pedal range!
+Storfot Mick here. I'd really like to do that. Such interesting pedals. Maybe we can get somebody from Moog on...
First off, love the show, love you guys-never stop. Two things I think I will just never “get”... The appeal of fuzz or modulated delay. 🤷♂️
I would be in favor of hearing Dan break down classic audio signals and talk about the evolution of tones. Quick, somebody get this man a schematic!
I have the boss dm2w. Love that pedal.
1:00:33 sounds exactly like the special effects noise of the flying saucer in Forbidden Planet.
Lots of interesting toys today 'cept I just bought a TC alter ego x4 which is pretty much "yah boo sux" to everything apart from a real Binson. And for a show about delays, we sure did learn a lot about boost/overdrives. Which is nice.
Great work as ever guys.
+fletches40 Cheers! It was a winding road today. ;0)
Another great show. I have the Carbon Copy on my small board & its rock solid. The moog was epic only wish; a master volume to tame the drive boost.
A minute ago I thought of a guitar player you guys should check out. His name is Neil Zaza. He's sort of unknown it seems, but he's been around for nearly 30 years and released all kinds of solo records, and he even has a signature overdrive pedal that Mooer makes and a really awesome signature guitar from Kiesel guitars. He's an amazing player.
Not sure if you guys have ever used this but the Empress Tape Delay is pretty amazing for its size. Pretty sure its analogue with a digital brain. Pretty wicked. Worth a try.
Mick, you and the Gretsch are the perfect pair! And great to see you using the Carbon Copy. Have that as well... and I might join you with the Gretsch ;) Such a beautiful guitar, Snowcrest White!
Those Moog minifooger pedals are amazing. I have the trem and the delay. Properly meaty sounds out of them! Spent a day in a great music store in Portland Maine, Buckdancers, choosing them. The things we do on holiday!
+The Boss and The Beeston Street Band I don't have a lot of experience with them (Mick) but every time I play one, I really like it. Cheers!
That Gretsch is easily one of the most beautiful guitars I’ve seen in my life.
I've had all of those analog delays, except the Panther Cub. The little Moog is FABULOUS and includes expression pedal control too (as is the Moog Chorus in the same Minifooger line), but in that same price class I'd recommend the Malekko Ekko Dark delay--just a gorgeous sounding, clear and somewhat dark delay. I wish the MXR Carbon Copy had some of the Seymour Duncan adjustability, but I find the MXR sounds better to my ears. Also of note, the Carbon Copy can double quite nicely as an analog chorus at a short delay setting.
One thing to keep in mind with the Moog MF Delay is that it is often used with Moog synths like the Mother 32, where the Drive circuit takes on a different characteristic with a smoother synth signal as opposed to a more percussive guitar input.
Monumental finale gentlemen!
Just recently picked up a Walrus Audio Bellwether Analog Delay, similar feature set to the JHS Panther Cub. Phenomenal pedal!
Analog Delay is such a great sound, glad you touched on some of the newer offerings out there!
I think "That Pedal Show" boxers would be a nice addition to your fashion line! 😂
+Francis Gori cheers Francis, big yes on the boxers :)
That Pedal Show Will they have 'All you need is fuzz' on the front?
Vapour Trail and Phase 90 is magic!
Mick is on to something when he questions Dan mentioning sample rates. Technically speaking, a bucket brigade delay is analog in the amplitude dimension (as the full signal is captured as an electrical charge) but is digital in the time dimension (as the signal is sampled and passed on in discrete units).
Hey Dan, hey Mick, just wanted to thank your for your awesome show. First of all, it's always nice to listen to your amazing sounds you get - with most of the time pedals, I haven't even heard of before. Your content just rules, for most of the questions that pop up in my mind about amps/pedals/whatever, there is a That Pedal Show Episode to answer it, keep em coming! But also your Show is so inspiring, before TPS, guitar sound to me was, really, there is an amp, that makes noise, there is a pedal, that makes my amp make even more noise, let's do this! And since I watch your Show, I just listen much more to what things really do, how they interact with each other, and how I can achieve a better guitar sound, thanks for that! Oh, and thanks for the incitement (is that correct? - german.) to throw out enormous amounts of money for various Pedals over the last two or three years! :D As an idea for the future: A Show on building a nice rig around already driving amps (Marshall!
I'm searching a new Delay Pedal and you upload this!!!
LUCKY DAY LOL XD!!!
Carbon Copy wins in my book, followed closely by the DM-2. Both sweet delays.
what do think of the panther cub? would you buy the carbon copy deluxe or the panther cub? thanks
Very pleased that Dan chose the Vapor Trail, as it vindicates my decision to swap out the Alter Ego V2 (a great delay pedal, by the way) and replace it with a Vapor Trail. Thanks so much; thoroughly interesting show, as always!
Man i love Friday nights in Aus when you guys upload another video
Great show again guys.
at work, staring at excel sheets. at 50:10, I had to stop and look at the screen and couldn't hide the massive smile on my face.
+DevilMayAsian Hahahaha!!!!
+DevilMayAsian Hahahaha!!!!
Thanks guys! Would have liked to be in the room on this one. Minor Note: add the D'Adario Chromatic Tuner to your lineup (lower right, between G2 and Three2One) below.
As far as the pedals discussed, 1st impressions: MXR Carbon Copy sonically is straightforward, to the point. I think that's why so many people enjoy using it. My own preference is the "Bright" version that Mick mentioned to offset the traditional darker analog trails. I think Mick's assessment of the Moog is spot on, although I have only personally heard the MF-104M version ((www.moogmusic.com/products/moogerfoogers/mf-104m-analog-delay). Two other functionalities that the Moog delay offers is an expression pedal and MIDI capability.
I know the time is limited, but I would also give a listen to Tripps' original AquaPuss (www.jimdunlop.com/product/whe701-7-10137-04616-0.do), the SupaPuss (www.jimdunlop.com/product/whe707-7-10137-05414-1.do) which has an expression function or even the Echo-Puss.
I like the idea of a future "Always On" episode. I would e interested in seeing a contrast of pedals like the Prism with MXR's EP101 ExhoplexPreamp and/or MXR's new M293 Booster Mini (the Echoplex Preamp in a mini footprint), and an Original JHS Colorbox and the Hudson Broadcast.
That all at once sound was incredible!
Mick finally pulled in the gretsch!
+Sagi Dash Love that guitar!
The two Analogue Delays I've come to keep on my board are the Way Huge Echo-Puss and the Walrus Audio Bellwether. Both for different reasons, the Echo-Puss because of its clarity and tone shaping but also because for self oscillation is just AMAZING. If you've ever heard Yngwie do his crazy effect solo on his delay, he does some crazy explosion sounds and this nails that and also just is so musical while oscillating.
I was wondering if the circuits of the Carbon Copy and Echo-Puss were the same... The Puss has a couple more knobs to twiddle but essentially the same, as do both have 600ms delay time.
I won't go into the Bellwether other than it is a monster 1000ms delay (BB), with tap, modulation, and an effects loop! I mean using an overdrive in the delays is awesome, or any effect you choose while keeping your dry signal unaffected. You guys should definitely consider featuring it.
Man I love the sound of the Moog, too bad it seems impossible to get a hold of.
Seriously.
I actually know gigging musicians that turn the ehx Memory Man delays off and only use it as a boost. This really should be a pedal all its own.
What version(s) of Memory Man?
@@saintjabroni sorry I meant the Deluxe Memory Boy actually
@@jessievasser6293 🤝
Great video again guys!!! I always look forward to Friday afternoons...early finish, coffee and That Pedal Show!
Could you guys do a video on your pedal board through a solid state amp such as a Peavey Bandit and make a comparison to your valve amps?
Yess!!! Love analog delay!!! Loved the moog when it came out
That Moog sounded minifooging awesome!
I'd have liked a DMM in the mix... But I loved the video!
I don't need my eighth drive pedal but apparently since I don't have the true overdrive pedal, I do.
i had one for a day. reminded me of the overdrive channel of my old HT5--very modern-sounding to my ears. not my cup o tea, but may be yours.
42:10 "Oh, there's programming…" - Mick
Ok, we need a T-shirt of this moment right here! Such a perfect TPS moment!
And then, on the back the shirt would say, "Nope, that's not for you." - Dan
It will sell like hilarious hot cakes.
+T M You could be on to something there... ;0)
Great episode...
Two of my all time favorites-- the DM 2 and Mini Fooger.
Also: Gretsches really do have a sound all their own don't they?
Great playing on Whispering too Mick
You guys really need to get the full size Moogerfooger Delay pedal. It is the one pedal in my collection that is NEVER going anywhere! A must have IMO. The JHS Panther on the other hand, not so much.
After about half-an-hour I was beginning to think that all the diversity of sounds could probably only be heard in the room. Then you unplugged the (horrible) Gretsch and changed to your fabulous Strat, and everything improved. The sounds, your playing and all the tones! NOW we're talkin!
Already have two delay pedals but it's always fun to watch.
And for the always on pedal I vote for the Lovepedal Super 6...
OMG that True Over Drive is massive!
Shocked there's not more comments about it. What a sound!
Any chance of a video where you focus on putting pedals into the loop of a delay like you did with Seymour Duncan Vapour Trail?