Klon Centaur - Is This Overdrive Pedal Really Worth $5000?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- The Klon Centaur is one of those mythical pedals that price wise has now gone through the roof. This pedal is currently fetching sometimes over $5000 on the secondhand market. I own a couple of Centaur clones but have never played the real thing. In this video, I try a Klon Centaur or the first time to see if it is really worth the $5k price tag.
The Studio Rats are core band members Paul Drew on guitar/production/mixing, drummer James Ivey and Dan Hawkins on bass. They collaborate with singers and musicians to produce radio-ready songs.
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Unless you are a professional musician who relies on that one tone for your livelihood, no pedal is worth $5k to me. But there is a reason it has it’s reputation, as it does sound truly amazing. But there are so many other pedals that sound amazing in slightly different ways for far less. I’m happy to get 95% of the way there for 95% less money :)
I don't really get that sentiment. If its amazing and it excites your ears and your imagination: just buy it. 1k, 5k, 10k w/e.
If I was as impressed as Paul claimed to be here I would have just bought it. End of. Guys like that probably have 20k of crap lying around they never use. I could easily justify selling off some of the junk in my studio to finance such a purchase.
They aren't made anymore, only 8000 or so were ever made, they do not all sound "mind blowing"..
Its not going to depreciate.
No brainer.
@@cgavin1 (music nerd) "unless you are a professional musician..."
I got into pedal building because of how expensive pedals get. It’s a super fun hobby now that slowly consumes my life
There are soooo many klon clones out there it's mind boggling. Some of them are exact replicas.
There is no need to pay that much for a pedal with less than $20 worth of parts in it. When you can buy one that does the same thing in a smaller package for a little over a hundred bucks.
To be fair, the top performwrs in the world are merely fractions of a second in differences. I argue that many of us are paying for the small fractions of differences more so than the similarities
$50 Circuit , Plenty of Klon Clones Sound Great
It's a 25p circuit.
I agree
It’s ridiculous the hype surrounding the KLON. There’s no magic. There’s plenty of things that sound as good. Finnegan applied the same sales techniques as a certain famous amp builder did. I’ve had 3 of them, sold them all. There are a few neat things going on circuit wise, but other than that …..it’s not magic. It really is just a modified TS. If you by the Rockett Archer you’re getting the same thing. They cloned it verbatim with BF’s approval. It’s like the “D” amp thing all over. These things have been figured out and improved upon.
Tim, as an owner of several of your pedals are you still making them? FYI they’re great. I have bought several
a bunch of your pedals and love them. Take care Tim. If you should see this.
Best Klon demo on the Tube.
Finally someone showing in the simplest way possible the Klon doing its thing and it’s remarkable.
Now the value will always be based upon what someone is willing to pay but this is not the point of the video, it’s about tone, that tone which is being emulated a thousand times without ever being reproduced.
Kudos to you, love your channel.
Cheers Smoky.
These are just circuits and with the correct component values, the effect is the same. Hype has always driven the music industry and always will.
Of course it isn't. Solely based on availability or rather lack of. But...I've never heard a klone get it quire right. There's a sound to an original that just has something addictive about it.
Bloody hell. Was not expecting it to sound so good. 👍🏽
I say no it’s not worth it… when there’s so many good replications of a Klon out there, I would rather save 4800 and buy a Wampler Tumnus deluxe and use the rest of the money for a sweet telecaster.
I ordered one of those and they sent me one with a bad Gain pot.
Sounds great. Eddie Van Halen described himself as a “tone-chaser” and he spent countless hours innovating and experimenting trying to achieve the sound in his head. I think the guitar tone on Mean Street sounds just as good as the tone on A Different Kind of Truth. Different, but awesome. I’m also not about to tell Eddie that he wasted time or money. All that to say this-if that pedal is the closest you can come to the ideal in your head, and you can afford it-more power to you.
@@servethesongs Great album, but I saw him in '79 and nothing compares to that live performance I saw. and his tone!
Sucker Born Everyday... 5k, not ok.
I've had a couple of Klons in the past, never liked giving up all the pedalboad real-estate they took up so I started looking at clones and low and behold I found that
I like the J.Rockett Archer even better.
But like I always say,
"Tone is like chili, flavor to your liken"
I'm curious how the Warm Audio Centravo or the Stewmac Ghost drive stacks up against the original. They both claim to have accuratly recreated the Klon.
My warm audio centavo is en route as we speak..can't wait to see how it compares w all of my drives especially the Duke of Tone...my OCD v4.. Wampler tumnus deluxe...ts9 40th anniversary ruby red screamer..bout 20 others... lmao 🤣🤘😜..can't wait..arrives tomorrow
I think ill get one to see.
@@TheStudioRats can't wait to see u Rock it man🤘🎸
@@TheStudioRats That would be amazing! Can't wait!
@@ericwarrington6650 No offense, but on Sweetwater's demo of that pedal, it sounded nothing like the real one here. but it could all be the mix we are hearing.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see this pedal in your studio on the next Q&A 😂
Bit rich for me David but id like one.
bought mine in NYC years ago for 1200$
the gain knob is awesome and i dint get why everyone decided it was only good for low gain and boosting🤷♂️obviously-based on your demo-it kicks ass when u crank it.
Yeah, using such an expensive pedal with such functions as just a boost is kinda... Underutilizing it.
I’m not gonna lie Paul, those sound like your same great tones in your studio, but maybe your studio tone is 10k😊 the Laney caught my attention for sure, can’t get them easily in Canada. All in all still sounds great 👍🏻
The pedal may be worth that because the scarcity but there are a million klones that sound just as good
RYRA is close enough. Love it.
I have seen the original demoed side by side with the Ceriatone copy and I could hear no difference. If you were using it playing live it would probably be hard to tell a difference between this and a $35.00 copy from Wish
😭😭😭 I feel your pain brother.. you’ll be fine, you don’t need it. You don’t need it. You don’t need it!!! …….. I F@&king Need it!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I passed on one about 10 years ago . Guitar Center had it for $1k . I did however buy a Klon KTR used for $380 . I tried to get it for $300 but the chap wouldn't budge . When I got the pedal I noticed it was great . The KTR's sound great and if I was wanting that pure Klon drive , go buy a KTR . I think they are still below $700 on reverb . They have been wrongfully labeled as the cheap " factory" repros .
There is a new Klon Clone out called warm audio centavo, i hope someone will make a comparison video with an original Klon. Since warm audio claims they re-build it correctly i would really like to hear someone test it with the same guitar !
.... but the Klon Minotaur diodes are no longer available. Even the Klon KTR uses different ones - and thus allegedly sounds different.
why did they stop making them? Why can't someone copy this exact?
just use an Earthquaker plumes on middle setting. same vibe. no one could tell the difference.
Beautiful and genuine video. Totally got the point, for sure a beautiful sounding pedal!
Cheers Martino.
Y'all have demonstrated a few Klon type pedals and they've all been great. But since the latest Boss Katana update has a digital Klon clone I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. How does it compare to the real thing? Or is it no good and that's why no one has bothered talking about it?
I would submit that no pedal is worth $5000 or even close. Does the Klon sound great? Sure it does. Could Paul get a great tone out of $200-$300 pedal? I'm betting he could. In a full band context, could anyone tell the difference (or would they care)? Probably not.
Cheers Lee, I think a lot of pedals could get a similar sound, Its more the way this thing reacts with your fingers/ pick, guitar / amp that i think is special.
These pedals were $800-1400 around 2016 and well worth trying if you were a boutique enthusiast. At their current price point they are for gimmicky rich folks lol cause the rest of us know to throw an xotic sp ($150) in front volume all the way up. That will get you 90% of the way there 😛 and you’ll never think about the moon again.
I wonder if 2 original Klons compared side by side sound the same ?
Also has someone made identical copies or not possible ?
A good question, I’m going to try to borrow one and compare against a few clones.
I’ve tried them all and the Ceriatone Centura is a close as you’ll get for £200.
No. Tumnus is good enough. I’m a pedal addict. There’s just no way. You can buy guitars and amps for that price. FYI horsemeat by PRS is an awful name. Maybe consider that Bogner goldfinger 45 sl from that trip when u got your Gibson. Great amp. Just a thought. PS love when you 2 go to guitar stores.
Cheers Jack
damn it, I knew I was going to have to sell a kidney..
Klon KTR can do it all for a lot less. Wouldn't be without mine, but I use it as an always on clean boost just to fatten everything up and give a tiny bit of natural sounding compression
Go on.... buy one. The beauty is that you'll have one of the best sounding pedal out there, and years later if you need the cash you can sell it at a profit. I bought one two years ago for £2,000 and it is now worth (in theory) £4,000 upwards (actually more like £4500 as I have the original box). And I've had two years of sonic bliss. Result!
Built a klon clone. And sounds ridiculous! Really important to select the right components.
Wow, I was not expecting that result... in UA-cam land, it may be difficult to truly hear how good it is... also, the feel is something one can only experience when playing it... good luck in your quest... Paul Drew and the Klon Pedal... maybe you can get Harrison Ford a part in that epic!!
Do a video on trying to match its best tone with the katana and its software.
one thing is for sure, the Klon Klone in Kat Ver 2 doesn't sound like this!
I get the same sound out of my POD-GO 🤔🤔
Nope and I’ll never pay for one so I researched and bought the decibelics golden horse for roughly the same price as a og klon in 94 thing sounds INCREDIBLE my klon searched has ended.
never knew Jason Stathom could riff so well
I have a Mk1 Menatone Red Snapper and think it is in the same ballpark.
But they all don’t sound the same a bit like a guitar but that particular one sounds great but the tele is awesome and the amp sounds great so combined walla
Awesome!
I made me wonder what brand of strings you're using. It's INVISIBLE!
It's a great pedal, but 5k... It's like it's written on the later versions, that the price gouging hype was not of the pedal creator's doing. One thing that would put me off is the size of it. It has a big enclosure. Just... Why? Oh, also, the price is a little bit off-putting. 😂
Anyway, another fun video!
The entire music “gear” industry is currently engaged in hype and gouge mode right now. Reverb has become a museum with prices.
I absolutely love watching these channels gush like they're in love with this extremely overpriced regular overdrive pedal! It's the funniest thing to watch them try to pretend like they're hearing something great coming out of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ok Paul... I know youre still thinking about this. I know you think about it every time you see the KTR on your board. Im sorry Mrs. Drew, but Paul needs one. Because I need to A. know your thoughts on the KTR vs. Centaur debate, and B. as a Matchless Independence user myself, I NEED to hear one through it.
In my opinion its worth not more than any other medium class modeler
Super sounding...so for us mortals, what non-collectible ( say under $350 currently in production) pedal gets close?
Decibelics golden horse
Now that you've tries the real thing. What is your say on the klon simulation on the boss gt 1000?
I just use the free VST-3 version of it. And from what i can tell after listening to this video they sounds very similar.
You should have said, I’d have brought my Nordvang & RYRA over for a comparison
Bro that noise at 625 lol
Sounds cool but a Tube Screamer sounds better.
You can buy clones that sounds just as good just like you can buy a 427 cobra that's going to be just as good as the 66 car. but neither the new pedal nor the new car will be as collectible
Do yourself a favour buy a ceriatone centura, same pedal same components. And if you don't know anything about basic electronics watch Joe at Gray Bench Electronics demystify this pedal and the so called mystical diodes. If not continue with being a slave to the hype. Ps. When anything goes wrong with your gooped klon good luck, there is one on ebay which failed to sell because the charge pump isn't working. Basically a dead gooped over hyped pedal.
There are so many guitarists out there that sound great or even better than this pedal. I don't understand why a pedal would cost more than double compared to a 100 watt tube amplifier. It is undeniable the pedal sounds great but it is not worth $5000. Many American made stuff are so overrated. Practicing 8 hours a day is the secret to making any OD pedal sound great.
So in had the chance to play the original Klon and we compared it to my chinese copy.
And we found that there is no difference that would justify the originals 4.000€ price.
The circuit is virtualy identical in the chinese one with the diference that it costs 40€.
Finnegan artificialy hyped the price with some fairytale stories how the Klon has some sort of magic germanium stuff. Thats why he covered the circuitboard with that black goo, because its easily replicated and has cheap components that chinese pedal makers can copy without a problem.
What was especialy insulting is the way he wrote on new pedals how the hype was not his own making because it absolutely was.
So no, in my honest opinion the pedal is not worth nowhere near that much. If someone is happy with it, good. But the money could have been spent much more wisely.
Great video tho.
Bought one in 2002 for $250 NIB and then gave it to my engineer/producer at the time as an album mix wrap gift.
Yep.
Just gave it away...
True story.😐
Doh!
@@metalmick YARP!
Dang
My Katana 100 on .5 watt is insane loud. I feel ya on the do t be confused thing
What’s the thing it’s doing you’ve never heard before? If it wasn’t 5k people would not freak out over it. Keep in mind you can buy the newer klon that bill finnegan says sounds exactly the same for a lot less and he will be making more. If you pay 5k for that and you aren’t John Mayer, you are nuts. Check out the first couple versions of the Timmy. Great OD.
Its just a distortion pedal. A clone would do you fine , how does it compare to a rat pedal?
I was close to buying a gold Klon. Ended up buying a Two-Rock.
Klon actually sounds good here. half (or more then half) of the videos on the tube sounds like complete trash. well done here
Sounds great, but a vintage collector item now and who would take it to a gig.
If I was fortunate to own one I would gig it, id just keep an eye on it.
@@TheStudioRats 2 weeks ago at a bar gig I was talking to friends while on a break. A few minutes later one of the security guys came up to me with my vintage 63 Strat and said they caught a guy walking out with it. Called the cops and he was arrested. Be careful.
Damn! I’m glad you got that back!
Attention ! (WARM AUDIO) HAVE DONE IT WITH THERE PEDAL CENTAVO ! GET IT !
What’s the best klon clone on the market right now?
Ceriatone centura, and it's built better because the pots are wired to the board, not directly mounted,anyone with half a knowledge of electronics would know this.
Acheté plus tôt pour 200 dollars la WARM AUDIO CENTAVO copie exact de la centor .
You can get the same sound by pedal stacking.
Sure you can sound wise, what is special about the pedal is the immediateness of the response playing through it. With all the pedals ive played through ive never experienced it.
@@TheStudioRats you know its BS mate. Anyway you are an awsome guitar player and you dont need a 5000dollar pedal to sound as you doo. And in a band situation you cant hear the difference.
Why don't you see if you can create the same sound on the GX-100 in a video
You got one for just 5k? 😲
Not me
@@TheStudioRats sad, it wasn't that bad of a price. 5 k £ is about 5.8 k USD/Euro, last time I looked, the cheapest ones were at about 6.2 k USD, most expensive one was roughly 8 k.
Tumnus is great for the money
I feel your pain, Paul.
Cheers Arga. The pain has gone, new video coming soon.
Stewmac Ghost Drive kit for you?!
if guitar is your life it's not too much if you're making this a core part of your tone.
Sorry I don’t get it at all. No doubt it sounds great but so do a lot of pedals at less than 10% the price. $5k for a pedal is an absolute joke. I’d rather spend $5k on lessons from someone like Alex Hutchings - and stick to a reasonably priced drive pedal. Or if I’m brutally honest I’d save the $5k so that I can afford to boil my kettle.
I guess its about wanting to own something rare. Its like saying every guitar from the 50''s or 60's is better than a newer guitar - sometimes yes, sometimes definitely not. Collectors will always collect, and if they can afford to, great! Players use what gear they have, and make it sound as good as they can. Guitarists like Andy Timmons swear by the Boss Blues Driver - I dont like it, but having heard a few great players play through my gear over the years, they certainly sounded better than me, because of their innate talent. I can't imagine paying 5k for a pedal, its not something I'd find important or life-changing enough. Fascinating to hear you demo it though.
Agreed. The Klon was on my bucket list though. I'm not getting any younger and there's no pockets in a shroud. 30 years of playing guitars I have only ever come across two "wow" pieces. One, a '77 twin reverb that in any room sounded like a fully mastered cut on every note and a silver non-horsie Centaur s/n 5167. On both ocassions I had to sell everything else I was using at the time to finance the purchase. I have zero regrets. Sometimes experiencing something and having those joyfull memories is worth all the tea in China.
I’d rather pay rent for the next 3 months lol. Sounds great though.
When something special like that show up.
forget its a pedal. its that special part of the mix.
sell and amp or a guitar or 2.
get the damn thing and be done.
It sounds like all other klon clones.
Um no it's not worth 5k. What a laughable price tag
Cmon Mr Drew.. bet you buy one 😂😂😂
Maybe one day
You are a long time dead I feel . If it really touches that spot just buy it . Look at it the other way , it aint gona go down in price dude. Buy one .
Yes agreed, but Its hard to justify $5k for $50 worth of parts, it sure sounds go tho.
I'd rather have a 1978 Austin Princess...😁
That’s a blast from the past.
$47 from wish hardly any difference. But U need a more driven amp .and only use them as a boost and just leave them on . great video
Crazy price my new overpriced Mesa mark VII was cheaper
Yes! Actually I think it's worth more! I think it can go up to 30k.
No. Not even 200.
It sounds like an overdrive pedal 🤷♂
Funny that
@@TheStudioRats I was expecting choirs of angels.
No
Over priced pedal the great player can make 50 $ pedal sound 🔥
Nope. Get a Caline and move on
Largely an emotional response, I’m hypothesizing. You gents are intelligent. You should be skeptical of a response to non-blind “unobtanium”. Especially when it’s your own response
That pedal or any pedal is only as good as the amp it is played through...or played through a Peavey Bandit that pedal is worthless...so let s all be real about how GREAT this pedal REALLY is...wouldn't pay that price for an amp and wouldnt pay it for a 100-150$ pedal...period.(oh...mystical magical buffer...{PLEASE)
No