I mean, I guess it’s “legends” content now but ancient pre-lightsaber force weapons were steel swords with force energy arcing over them and are apparently able to stand up against “modern” lightsabers and some are “better” (usually because their association with the dark side etc)
It's changed slightly, but not by much.. current canon goes like this: Steel blades - Steel blades honed and hardened by the force - steel blades with plasma arcing (pre pure energy source) - modern lightsaber.
My left arm was numb and useless. I threw myself to my feet, pulling my sword from my webbing. The device is a fine weapon, of the old kind. It has no material blade like other, cruder models I have seen. It is a hilt, twenty centimetres long, inlaid and wound with silver thread, enclosing a fusion cell that generates a metre-long blade of coherent light. From Xenos (Eisenhorn trilogy).
Oh I was just considering how to improve my Krieg power saber, I may have to try this as it would really elevate the sargent to the next level - thanks Jay!
Good stuff! I’m gonna try this, but power swords should always match Mountain flavors if you ask me. Gonna try for Baja Blast first! 😎. My old method was to splatter Aethermatic Blue contrast over leadbelcher 🤷♂️
I'm just here to say I'm really happy I found Aeons of battle and that I love models and memories. I put it on to fall asleep and rewatch it the next day.
Back in the day I always used the old plasma ball lightning paint job, but those are some eye-catching swords, I may give that a shot next time I have a Slaaneshi with a power weapon on the workbench. (I always liked to imagine the power field not so much 'pushing matter aside' as causing any matter it touched to violently explode, that seemed like how a 40k lightsaber would work - less cauterised wounds, more eruptions of shrapnel and gore.)
If memory serves there are incredibly rare powerswords that are just a hilt and have a lightsaber style blade that is purely made of disruptor field that emerges when the blade is activated. I think Inquisitor Eisenhorn had one initially.
Considering that a power sword emits a molecular disruptor along the edge of its blade would easily bypass the containment field of a lightsaber if anything else where all it does is become a flashlight fight where as long as the individual isn’t hit then it should be okay, although with a lightsaber being blade less means that it’s far more maneuverable than a power sword having a 360 attack radius rather than the backwards or forwards motions of a power sword, but that’s also excluding other variables such as the force and things like secondary weapons for the space marine such as say a plasma pistol or bolt pistol and whilst a Jedi might have super natural speed and even foresight still won’t change the fact that a bunch of regular men with blasters were able to effectively take out a Jedi a squad of guardsmen who’s closest example would be the eldar, would still fall to a hail of lasbolts and whether or not a lightsaber can deflect a laser is uncertain as the jedis plot armor, and considering that the standard loadout for a space marine is power sword and bolter it’s not unfair to say that the Jedi would simply die due to the bolter or amount of shrapnel flying in his direction and even though bolters or bolt rounds are grossly over exaggerated a hail of bolter shrapnel isn’t great and considering that a Jedi can at best focus on one thing at a time ie fight or use the force to stop shrapnel from flying into them
I just give it an Iron Warriors base coat and just go over it with some Turbo Dork color shift paint. I don't care if it's a smoothbrain technique, I like the way it looks lol
I paint my power swords kinda different. What I do is make one color blend into another color. May favorite ive done is a blueish green that transitions into yellow.
Hey Jay! Delete if this is against your rules but there is a kickstarter out now for 3D printable kitbash bitz for Dark Angels and Black Templar, thought you would be interested, it's called Eternal Pilgrims.
I always had this headcanon where there was no external switch on a lightsaber. That only force users could activate it, by using the force to shift the crystal into place. Then it makes the weapon into a TRUE weapon of jedi, and wouldn't really be of value if you stole it from one.
I feel silly for not thinking of just using white paint to lighten my red paint for a power sword. I was so used to buying specific shades I was considering buying like 7 red paints.
they're considerably less silly than lightsabres. there's an actual physical blade there, unlike a lightsaber, which can be switched off and on to dodge any kind of parry. why this doesn't occur to lightsaber duellists in canon eludes me.
Here's a little fun trivia: there is in fact a "lost" saber style that actually utilizes exactly this. I can't remember what the style is called but I think it was sith lord that created the style or "perfected" it, something like that. Also a Jedi wouldn't train in a style like this cause ya know honor and all that, pfft.
@@huntahman80 This is true, but its also because its stupid and dangerous. The second you switch it off for a parry you have a blade coming at you. Possibly you can get yours in them faster, but you have no defense either way.
There is nothing so silly as a 'chainfist'... I know they're quite good in certain places in the meta, but I hope I never have to stick one onto a model... that is just one step beyond derpiness for me.
@@Джудо Hahah, I thumbed up your comment, even though I disagree with it! But hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... as some dude once wrote! If it makes you feel good, go for it!
No they're not the same. One is a straight piece of plasma, the other is a sword with a engery field emitter making the blade of the sword that much sharper. You want the best example, try the tau fusion blades.
I have always imagined power weapons in 40k to be very ornamental or ceremonial in appearance, and with a force field so thin you can't see it, except for a slight glow of some color (depending on faction I guess?) along the blade's edge or edges. Always seen then as something very elegant, thus never painted them the way GW and seemingly most others do. I will admit GW's ways to paint them have always looked like a lot of fun, and now you good Sir have convinced me to paint some power swords in this and similar fashion. Not sure if a thank you or a damn you is in order. :p
Even if it looks great from an artistic point of view...I'll never understand why these alternating colored boxes are supposed to represent a force field around the edge...why does everyone paint it that way?
well one thing like see in this and ALL the vid you got are NO MORE ADDS your vids are to good fore em in fist place two like get the 3 D prints frome that patron thing the bass bileding from dawn of war if whare pre printied and sold right to ever does not have a printer then i buy some last like sword paint stuff i see more as more is posted
Disney did make lightsabers more brutal, but was probably a marketing change. I haven't seen to many attempts at the light Saber lighting but I don't think it would be out of place for an edged weapon
I mean, I guess it’s “legends” content now but ancient pre-lightsaber force weapons were steel swords with force energy arcing over them and are apparently able to stand up against “modern” lightsabers and some are “better” (usually because their association with the dark side etc)
It's changed slightly, but not by much.. current canon goes like this: Steel blades - Steel blades honed and hardened by the force - steel blades with plasma arcing (pre pure energy source) - modern lightsaber.
Lord Hoth ftw 👌
I love this channel. Jay gives a straight to the point no bs tutorial on power weapons, with a charming intro, in under 4 minutes
While the lightning crackle paint looks good, your paint looks a lot more eye catching, especially from a tabletop distance.
My left arm was numb and useless. I threw myself to my feet, pulling my sword from my webbing. The device is a fine weapon, of the old kind. It has no material blade like other, cruder models I have seen. It is a hilt, twenty centimetres long, inlaid and wound with silver thread, enclosing a fusion cell that generates a metre-long blade of coherent light.
From Xenos (Eisenhorn trilogy).
Just tried to apply this technique to the comparatively plain sword I was originally going to have, thanks 👍
1:16 I also suspect that chain swords and chain axes might have small disrupter fields in them to help with their cutting as a “budget” power weapon.
I think they just have very sharp teeth. Unless an important space marine uses the in which case possibly.
No the have monomolecular blades. Meaning they just cut very well; they attack the atomic structure of what they are hitting.
Oh I was just considering how to improve my Krieg power saber, I may have to try this as it would really elevate the sargent to the next level - thanks Jay!
I feel called out. Time to step up my game!
Man, succinct and easy to follow, I can actually see this helping me painting. Huge props
You make it look easy! Awesome results as usual!
Good stuff! I’m gonna try this, but power swords should always match Mountain flavors if you ask me. Gonna try for Baja Blast first! 😎. My old method was to splatter Aethermatic Blue contrast over leadbelcher 🤷♂️
Wow this seems like a super simple way of doing a crazy good looking paint job
I'm just here to say I'm really happy I found Aeons of battle and that I love models and memories. I put it on to fall asleep and rewatch it the next day.
Back in the day I always used the old plasma ball lightning paint job, but those are some eye-catching swords, I may give that a shot next time I have a Slaaneshi with a power weapon on the workbench. (I always liked to imagine the power field not so much 'pushing matter aside' as causing any matter it touched to violently explode, that seemed like how a 40k lightsaber would work - less cauterised wounds, more eruptions of shrapnel and gore.)
Sounds like a combination of an obsidian blade and a vibroblade, truly a terrifying combination.
Amazing tutorial
I've always thought of power swords more like vibroblades as opposed to lightsabers.
Yea that's what I was thinking
Yea, but the admechs Sicarians use what are 1:1 vibroblades
If memory serves there are incredibly rare powerswords that are just a hilt and have a lightsaber style blade that is purely made of disruptor field that emerges when the blade is activated. I think Inquisitor Eisenhorn had one initially.
might try this on my Dred Knights blade using Black 3.0
This is weird, I was experimenting with this technique just last night
Me too!
Considering that a power sword emits a molecular disruptor along the edge of its blade would easily bypass the containment field of a lightsaber if anything else where all it does is become a flashlight fight where as long as the individual isn’t hit then it should be okay, although with a lightsaber being blade less means that it’s far more maneuverable than a power sword having a 360 attack radius rather than the backwards or forwards motions of a power sword, but that’s also excluding other variables such as the force and things like secondary weapons for the space marine such as say a plasma pistol or bolt pistol and whilst a Jedi might have super natural speed and even foresight still won’t change the fact that a bunch of regular men with blasters were able to effectively take out a Jedi a squad of guardsmen who’s closest example would be the eldar, would still fall to a hail of lasbolts and whether or not a lightsaber can deflect a laser is uncertain as the jedis plot armor, and considering that the standard loadout for a space marine is power sword and bolter it’s not unfair to say that the Jedi would simply die due to the bolter or amount of shrapnel flying in his direction and even though bolters or bolt rounds are grossly over exaggerated a hail of bolter shrapnel isn’t great and considering that a Jedi can at best focus on one thing at a time ie fight or use the force to stop shrapnel from flying into them
Great vid and thanks for the painting tip.
I just give it an Iron Warriors base coat and just go over it with some Turbo Dork color shift paint. I don't care if it's a smoothbrain technique, I like the way it looks lol
Awesome video guys!
I should really try this. Thanks for the vid'.
I can see the future
I paint my power swords kinda different. What I do is make one color blend into another color.
May favorite ive done is a blueish green that transitions into yellow.
Jay, can you tell me what is the color on the armor? Looks like skavenblight dinge, but i know its 100% not GW
Don't forget Power Boots, and Folding Power-Chairs
Hey Jay! Delete if this is against your rules but there is a kickstarter out now for 3D printable kitbash bitz for Dark Angels and Black Templar, thought you would be interested, it's called Eternal Pilgrims.
"May the force be wi..."
"HERETIC!!!"
"...the emporer protects!"
"🤨"
Jay, you wonderful person with the same name. Any tips for someone soon to attempt painting her first Battletech mechs?
For those looking for a better star wars comparison for a power weapon would be a vibroblade.
I do believe there actually are 'lighsabres' in 40k.
Yes. Yes there are
now waiting for a video answering whether terminator power armor is the same as Jedi robes
I always had this headcanon where there was no external switch on a lightsaber.
That only force users could activate it, by using the force to shift the crystal into place.
Then it makes the weapon into a TRUE weapon of jedi, and wouldn't really be of value if you stole it from one.
That would be much cooler than a lame ass button, I agree
I feel silly for not thinking of just using white paint to lighten my red paint for a power sword. I was so used to buying specific shades I was considering buying like 7 red paints.
Also the blade just so happens to be a single molecule thick and made up of what is usually used for things like tanks
Yes , Jay, yes they are,....
I am of the opinion that Necron blades should be more laser than weapon. Specifically because it makes them look like ghost swords
OI ALWAYS THOT A CHOPPA WUZ A CHOPPA WUZ A CHOPPA UNLESS IT WAZ A POWA KLAW OR A UGE CHOPPA.
0:35 was that a prozd reference?
they're considerably less silly than lightsabres.
there's an actual physical blade there, unlike a lightsaber, which can be switched off and on to dodge any kind of parry. why this doesn't occur to lightsaber duellists in canon eludes me.
Here's a little fun trivia: there is in fact a "lost" saber style that actually utilizes exactly this. I can't remember what the style is called but I think it was sith lord that created the style or "perfected" it, something like that. Also a Jedi wouldn't train in a style like this cause ya know honor and all that, pfft.
@@huntahman80 This is true, but its also because its stupid and dangerous. The second you switch it off for a parry you have a blade coming at you. Possibly you can get yours in them faster, but you have no defense either way.
There is nothing so silly as a 'chainfist'... I know they're quite good in certain places in the meta, but I hope I never have to stick one onto a model... that is just one step beyond derpiness for me.
agreed
chain fist for chaos space marines looks badass
@@Джудо Hahah, I thumbed up your comment, even though I disagree with it! But hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... as some dude once wrote!
If it makes you feel good, go for it!
tiny nitpick but IIRC force weapons are not power weapons. force weapons use psychic energy instead of a disruptor field.
This is true but Grey Knight force weapons are both power weapons and force weapons, so it's not unprecedented to combine them.
No they're not the same. One is a straight piece of plasma, the other is a sword with a engery field emitter making the blade of the sword that much sharper. You want the best example, try the tau fusion blades.
I have always imagined power weapons in 40k to be very ornamental or ceremonial in appearance, and with a force field so thin you can't see it, except for a slight glow of some color (depending on faction I guess?) along the blade's edge or edges. Always seen then as something very elegant, thus never painted them the way GW and seemingly most others do. I will admit GW's ways to paint them have always looked like a lot of fun, and now you good Sir have convinced me to paint some power swords in this and similar fashion. Not sure if a thank you or a damn you is in order. :p
Even if it looks great from an artistic point of view...I'll never understand why these alternating colored boxes are supposed to represent a force field around the edge...why does everyone paint it that way?
Lovely
Except.Eisenhorns first one, which was actually a lightsaber
Mankind did have actual lightsabers during the DOAT. And the Tau have something similar . . .
Yo
Anybody every paint a power sword in a gray scale and shoot it with transparent ink?
Who would win, a space marine or a terminator?
As in the T-800? Space marine, no contest.
well one thing like see in this and ALL the vid you got are NO MORE ADDS your vids are to good fore em in fist place two like get the 3 D prints frome that patron thing the bass bileding from dawn of war if whare pre printied and sold right to ever does not have a printer then i buy some last like sword paint stuff i see more as more is posted
1 space marine could defeat the entire star wars setting. Because i said so
Source: me looking at my kewl mini
Second
Sounds like cut with extra steps
Lightsaber are more of an plasma blade
Lies! Next your gonna try n tell me that Darth Vader isn’t in Warhamster 40k!
Keep the disney star wars crowd as far away as possible from the very tightly locked gate to 40k.
I love Disney star wars!
Disney did make lightsabers more brutal, but was probably a marketing change.
I haven't seen to many attempts at the light Saber lighting but I don't think it would be out of place for an edged weapon
It be a lot cooler if they were like lightsabers.