It is amazing how often promoting to something other than a queen is the perfect move in these puzzles, even though it almost never happens in actual games.
At 5:26 black can try to trick white by playing " Rb8 " and hoping that white takes and get queen or rook , that would be stalemate . But there are 2 ways for white to win than , first would be to take rook and promote to bishop , and second would be to play " Nb3+ " to force rook to move and get queen or get out of stalemate trap , take rook and promote pawn to queen or rook . Great puzzle !
11:39 didn't mention that the move Nb3+ fails because the rook capture is with a check. leading to a draw. even if it's obvious, I wanted someone to mention that because if the king was in another rank that would have been a proper line as well because Queen vs Rook on empty board is usually a win.
This should be a series! I love the creativity😂❤ thank you chess vibes, you are one of the greatest parts of my binging career.😂 Edit: we need a name for the fisherman!❤
I agree; I like his other format better. I almost expect him to start off one of these videos by saying, "A priest, a minister, and a rabbi walk into a bar ..."
11:20 is an interesting position. I wanted to say that Nb3+ is also winning for White - if the king moves, you play cxb8=Q and the Knight on b3 stops the new queen from covering b1/b2, so it's not stalemate. The problem is, if Black plays Rxb3+, you can try to cover the C-file with Kc4 - black can't go to b8 and has no good checks, so it's a win! EXCEPT - that Black plays Rb1, and after you Queen you immediately get skewered by Rc1+, and now *Black* wins the K+R vs K endgame. Whoops! And if you try Kc2 instead, then that leads into the Rb4 c8=Q Rc4+ Qxc4 stalemate from before. Drat!
1:26 I finally solved one of these! Instead of promoting to a Queen you promote to a Knight. And when black traps himself you don’t take the pawn at F7, you go to G6 and force black to take you! Then you push your F6 pawn and promote before black does!
Well... on the first puzzle, if you go for a6 instead of a5 you don't have to capture the knight and you can move the king. Keep the a5 move until you actually need it. You may get a draw...
In the first puzzle, an important variation wasn't mentioned: 1.h6 Ka4 2.h7 a5 (it's more precise to play this first and keep b5 open for now) Now if 3.h8=Q b5 is the same draw as shown, and if white makes a knight, black can try to give up on the stalemate idea and bring the king back: 3.h8=N Kb5! And now white's win is difficult, but he still can win after: 4.Nxf7 Kc6 5.Ne5+ Kd6 6.Kc1! (believe it or not, this is the only winning move, 6.f7 Ke7 is a draw) and now 6...a4 7.Nc6! or 6...Ke6 7.f7 Kf7 8.Nd7! Kxf7 9.Nxb6
This is kind of like the Ossip Bernstein story. The Bolsheviks were going to shoot him in 1918 since he was legal adviser to the tsar's bank, but the commanding officer recognized his name as a chess master and offered to play a game for his life. He won, was freed and later escaped.
The best move for the last move is knight to b3 check avoiding stalemate, he has to move the knight any where he moves you cupture the rook with the pawn and you get aqueen.
in this position at 11:23 cant you give a check with the knight instead of promote to bishop? kb3 , if rxb3 then Kc4 and no rook checks and black can't stop promotion kb3, if king moves anywhere then promote and not stalemate
Always love the puzzle videos, great content! SPOILER BELOW, READ AT OWN RISK . . . On the final move of the 2nd puzzle after black plays Rb8 going for stalemate if white promotes to a queen/rook, I thought at first you could play Nb3+ and get a queen. Any king move and you just take the rook, but after Rxb3+ it's actually a draw. White wants to control the squares on the C-file that black wants to use to stop the pawn, so white will try to cover c3 from the rook, but none of the adjacent squares work. If white moves their king to the D-file, black will just keep checking them indefinitely. If Kc4, white is actually losing after Rb1, threatening the unstoppable Rc1 which will win the pawn. If Kc2...Rb2+, where if white insists on staying on c1 and c2, black can also check white indefinitely; again if white ever goes to the D-file, black will simply check them. Lastly, white can try to move up the board with their king on the D-file because black will never have enough time to position the rook on the C-file to capture the pawn. However, as white marches up the D-file, eventually black will be pinning the c-pawn to white's king and there is nothing white can do to prevent the rook from taking the pawn. If anyone cared enough to read all of my unnecessary analysis and has any comments or if I missed something, I'd love to hear it. I didn't use an engine on this so I could very well be wrong
This concept you have shown is actually featured in one of Nelson's videos. So I believe you're correct here. In this variation, you have to try Kc2, but it doesn't work, because after Rc4, and you promote to a rook, there's Rb2+ and you have no mate.
First puzzle: You failed to state (explicitly) _White to move_ and I wondered at first whether that was deliberate (apparently not, though). In fact, with Black to play, it's a draw.
@@AbiGail-ok7fc That might be the convention, but I'm not certain that it's a rule. In any event this uploader normally states who it is to move and it could have been significant that he didn't.
2:12 If black plays a5 instead of b5 and then h8=N Kb5 the position actually remains quite tricky and the puzzle continues: Nxf7 Kc6 Ne5+ Kd6 Kc1 Ke6 f7 Ke7 Nd7 Kxf7 Nxb6 Ke7 Kd2 Kd8 Kd3 Kc7 Na4 Kc6 Kc4 and white wins by 1 tempo (this is the only winning line for white!)
1:41 Ah ... but if White promotes to a KNIGHT instead, he can sacrifice it ... (which was my first thought on who wins: White, but the promotion has to be to a knight). 4:34 I got deja vu all over again when I saw this. Nelson showed this problem in his video "A MORE Brilliant Endgame Study"
Chess idea : chess but you have to take every piece with the same piece ( like only your queen can take his queen ) and for checkmate you can only give checkmate with two same piece like both rooks or bishops
That last part is kind of a strange condition. I recall reading about a chess variant called Extinction Chess. You lose if you lose your king, your queen, both rooks, both knights, both bishops, or all eight pawns. Maybe Nelson has to play by the Extinction rules, while Martin gets to use regular rules?
Nice problems. The first one reminds me of an old problem involving multiple (4 or 5) knight promotions. By the time you promote to a knight for the second time, the rest will be easy. Interesting.
b5 or a5, black still loses, but after b5 (as in the video), it is a mate in 17, if a5 is played first, it takes longer for white as it is a mate in 33. if playing against a human (not an engine), definately play a5 to give white more chances to make a mistake.
He was not fisherman , he was Fischerman
Bobby Fisherman
@@paul_warnerBobby Stockfischerman
How Bobby Fischer became good at chess.
Lol
@@c.jishnu378 Bobby Hikaru stockfischerman Kasparov Carlson.
My favourite, the *"I'm gonna eat you" - "Actually, I can play chess" - "Understandable, have a nice day!"*
Damn we're getting a chess story mode now
I always picture white as like a skeleton army and black as humanity's last stronghold defending.
@@richardfirthucsb what if black is death, dark warriors, lords, and white is humanity?
what
ho Lee fuk are you saying
It is amazing how often promoting to something other than a queen is the perfect move in these puzzles, even though it almost never happens in actual games.
Wow Nelson. Brilliant! Hope we get a lot more "fisherman's" games! Shows how great Chess is!
I didn't realize that Chess can save your life.
Look up Ossip Bernstein
@@ytmndmanno way thank you for this information
At 5:26 black can try to trick white by playing " Rb8 " and hoping that white takes and get queen or rook , that would be stalemate . But there are 2 ways for white to win than , first would be to take rook and promote to bishop , and second would be to play " Nb3+ " to force rook to move and get queen or get out of stalemate trap , take rook and promote pawn to queen or rook . Great puzzle !
11:39 didn't mention that the move Nb3+ fails because the rook capture is with a check.
leading to a draw.
even if it's obvious, I wanted someone to mention that because if the king was in another rank that would have been a proper line as well
because Queen vs Rook on empty board is usually a win.
When you realise fischerman is actually stockfish 15
who's that i only know hans Neiman
Wow that puzzle really boosted my thinking and premoving.
I smiled when I saw the second puzzle transpose into the Saavedra position, beautiful.
Second puzzle was one of the best I've seen. Great video!
5:28 , you can actually stop the pawn with the black rook to b8 because if the pawn promotes to a queen/rook , it will be draw by stalemate
Promote to bishop and deliver a checkmate
2:22, Knight to G6
This should be a series! I love the creativity😂❤ thank you chess vibes, you are one of the greatest parts of my binging career.😂
Edit: we need a name for the fisherman!❤
Bobby
these stories are so ridiculous, but the puzzles are really cool. cool vids btw
I agree; I like his other format better.
I almost expect him to start off one of these videos by saying, "A priest, a minister, and a rabbi walk into a bar ..."
In second puzzle at 11:47 white can give check with it's knight and then promote pawn to queen.
Nb3+? only draws because Rxb3 is a check, and no, then Kc4 or Kc2 doesn't win either.
First puzzle i did not saw second knight promotion. These puzzles are briliant!!
11:20 is an interesting position. I wanted to say that Nb3+ is also winning for White - if the king moves, you play cxb8=Q and the Knight on b3 stops the new queen from covering b1/b2, so it's not stalemate. The problem is, if Black plays Rxb3+, you can try to cover the C-file with Kc4 - black can't go to b8 and has no good checks, so it's a win! EXCEPT - that Black plays Rb1, and after you Queen you immediately get skewered by Rc1+, and now *Black* wins the K+R vs K endgame. Whoops! And if you try Kc2 instead, then that leads into the Rb4 c8=Q Rc4+ Qxc4 stalemate from before. Drat!
I am loving these.
1:26 I finally solved one of these! Instead of promoting to a Queen you promote to a Knight. And when black traps himself you don’t take the pawn at F7, you go to G6 and force black to take you! Then you push your F6 pawn and promote before black does!
Right idea but you have to keep calculating
Well... on the first puzzle, if you go for a6 instead of a5 you don't have to capture the knight and you can move the king. Keep the a5 move until you actually need it. You may get a draw...
If you are saying that if u try to go for the f white pawn, then the horsey will be able to get all the black pawns and white will promote the b pawn
Real Chess Vibes fans know he has already shown the second puzzle in one of his videos
true saw before
Yes
Yup. I got a feeling of deja vu all over again. (Search for "A MORE Brilliant Endgame Study")
That fisherman better becomes a professional chess player. He’ll earn a lot of more money then staying a fisherman…..
In the first puzzle, an important variation wasn't mentioned:
1.h6 Ka4
2.h7 a5 (it's more precise to play this first and keep b5 open for now)
Now if 3.h8=Q b5 is the same draw as shown, and if white makes a knight, black can try to give up on the stalemate idea and bring the king back:
3.h8=N Kb5!
And now white's win is difficult, but he still can win after:
4.Nxf7 Kc6
5.Ne5+ Kd6
6.Kc1! (believe it or not, this is the only winning move, 6.f7 Ke7 is a draw) and now 6...a4 7.Nc6! or 6...Ke6 7.f7 Kf7 8.Nd7! Kxf7 9.Nxb6
This is kind of like the Ossip Bernstein story. The Bolsheviks were going to shoot him in 1918 since he was legal adviser to the tsar's bank, but the commanding officer recognized his name as a chess master and offered to play a game for his life. He won, was freed and later escaped.
That last puzzle was actually a puzzle brilliancy.
Love that weird, extra accent that Nelson does for a crazy move😂
The best move for the last move is knight to b3 check avoiding stalemate, he has to move the knight any where he moves you cupture the rook with the pawn and you get aqueen.
Love these puzzles! Make more pls
this was the longest ad I've ever enjoyed ;)
great puzzles! and story too!
If sea creatures could watch and remember Chess vibes videos, so do us as human
Wait where did the chess board come from? Is the chess puzzle a dream or some other film ish kinda scene?
the second one you have already talked about it before right Nelson? Its so familiar
Yep. A MORE Brilliant Endgame Study
in this position at 11:23
cant you give a check with the knight instead of promote to bishop?
kb3 , if rxb3 then Kc4 and no rook checks and black can't stop promotion
kb3, if king moves anywhere then promote and not stalemate
In English notation, K=king and N=knight. Nb3+? Rxb3+, Kc4 Rb1, if c8=Q Rc1+ Black wins.
@@Rocky64 true i forgot about that
6:52 what stops king to e2 instead? Isnt it not a stalemate anymore?
The rook can just go to c3 and attack your pawn from behind
The content be getting very good
Liking this new series, also I was happy that I recognized that stalemate trap from one of your older videos!
3:40, Knight to D7
Always love the puzzle videos, great content!
SPOILER BELOW, READ AT OWN RISK
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On the final move of the 2nd puzzle after black plays Rb8 going for stalemate if white promotes to a queen/rook, I thought at first you could play Nb3+ and get a queen. Any king move and you just take the rook, but after Rxb3+ it's actually a draw. White wants to control the squares on the C-file that black wants to use to stop the pawn, so white will try to cover c3 from the rook, but none of the adjacent squares work. If white moves their king to the D-file, black will just keep checking them indefinitely. If Kc4, white is actually losing after Rb1, threatening the unstoppable Rc1 which will win the pawn. If Kc2...Rb2+, where if white insists on staying on c1 and c2, black can also check white indefinitely; again if white ever goes to the D-file, black will simply check them. Lastly, white can try to move up the board with their king on the D-file because black will never have enough time to position the rook on the C-file to capture the pawn. However, as white marches up the D-file, eventually black will be pinning the c-pawn to white's king and there is nothing white can do to prevent the rook from taking the pawn.
If anyone cared enough to read all of my unnecessary analysis and has any comments or if I missed something, I'd love to hear it. I didn't use an engine on this so I could very well be wrong
This concept you have shown is actually featured in one of Nelson's videos. So I believe you're correct here. In this variation, you have to try Kc2, but it doesn't work, because after Rc4, and you promote to a rook, there's Rb2+ and you have no mate.
Great idea and overall a great video thank you Nelson love how you made a little story!
6:48 I thought the same..😅
But I just thought that I'll block check instead of moving king so my knight is closer to pawn so it can protect it..😅😅😅
Wow! Very very nice!
Great puzzle!
First puzzle: You failed to state (explicitly) _White to move_ and I wondered at first whether that was deliberate (apparently not, though). In fact, with Black to play, it's a draw.
Unless stated otherwise, White always moves first in puzzles.
@@AbiGail-ok7fc
That might be the convention, but I'm not certain that it's a rule. In any event this uploader normally states who it is to move and it could have been significant that he didn't.
@@rogerkearns8094 It's a rule.
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Ok :)
You can fork king and rook at 10:11
Illegal move since White is in check.
Hope the fisherman at least calls for Coast Guard to save the other two guys.
2:12 If black plays a5 instead of b5 and then h8=N Kb5 the position actually remains quite tricky and the puzzle continues:
Nxf7 Kc6
Ne5+ Kd6
Kc1 Ke6
f7 Ke7
Nd7 Kxf7
Nxb6 Ke7
Kd2 Kd8
Kd3 Kc7
Na4 Kc6
Kc4
and white wins by 1 tempo (this is the only winning line for white!)
Ah, I missed
4. Nxf7 Ka4
5. Nd6 b5
6. Nxb5 winning for white.
Thought it was a draw.
@Myth busters thank you, I fixed the typo
@@hannesilly8785 I think you wrote this under the wrong comment, you're talking about a completely different line.
1:41 Ah ... but if White promotes to a KNIGHT instead, he can sacrifice it ... (which was my first thought on who wins: White, but the promotion has to be to a knight).
4:34 I got deja vu all over again when I saw this. Nelson showed this problem in his video "A MORE Brilliant Endgame Study"
It's like Adventures of Fisherman now
This is the lore of how stockfish became who it is today.
these were stunning puzzles
This whole video I was like “oooooooh! wtf!”
5:31 room can move to b8, if the pawn takes it is a draw
Not if pawn promotes to bishop
can i get a link to this chess puzzle?
Amazing puzzle i only saw the first bit.
9:33 nb3 fork 🍴
Illegal move - White is in check.
And he sacrifices... THE KNIGHT!!!
At 9:13 wouldn’t black just sacrifice the rook to one of the pawns because it would be stalemate
This dude is a Stockfish-erman
4:15 Showed exact same puzze a year ago Ans also what the hck was that 6:02
Good stuff!
In this puzzle, whose turn is it to move first?
Yes, he should have said, _White to play,_ especially as Black to play leads to a draw.
Good video.
Knight b3 forking and winning left the chat 9:42
Illegal move since White is in check.
but what if black play a6 and not a5? if white promote to queen then a5 if to knight, just pushed g pawn
Please continue fisherman lore Nelson please
In puzzle one stockfish says not to push b5 but to push a4 first. But it is still winning for white
Where is the first puzzle? It's not in the playlist...
Is the 1000-1500 class any good for 500-600 players?
Chess idea : chess but you have to take every piece with the same piece ( like only your queen can take his queen ) and for checkmate you can only give checkmate with two same piece like both rooks or bishops
That last part is kind of a strange condition.
I recall reading about a chess variant called Extinction Chess. You lose if you lose your king, your queen, both rooks, both knights, both bishops, or all eight pawns. Maybe Nelson has to play by the Extinction rules, while Martin gets to use regular rules?
The first puzzle was pretty simple.
never fails to amaze
10:12 it defends the rook its the knight 💀🏰🐴
Great puzzles. But what about in the second puzzle after Re8 then Kc2 doesn't that win?
at 10:14 u said that way u defend ur rook but it's a knight
Hey I got the first one and some of the second one! Really great studies - who are they by?
11:38,you don't need to get a bishop, just check with the knight..etc(y'all calculate the rest)
wrong
Utter nonsense.
3:11 cant you move the queen so its next to the pawn move your king to the right then get your queen and check mate
No, the fastest attempt to mate with the queen is Qf5 g3, Kc1 g2, and now Qb1?? loses to g1=Q+, Kd2 Qxb1.
Bro I am so happy I found the answer to 1st puzzle without clicking video
Cant you just play Nb3+ at 11:22 if rook takes you promote to a queen and if king moves you capture the rook
And rook vs queen is a win
Rook takes is a check on your king.
@@danielyuan9862 well you gotta atk the rook after that and after it move you promote ah nvm
It would be a draw cuz of Rb1
Nice problems. The first one reminds me of an old problem involving multiple (4 or 5) knight promotions. By the time you promote to a knight for the second time, the rest will be easy. Interesting.
What about first black move ...R h5?
Why cant I see the first épisode of this story? :(
He was a fisherman who catches stockfish
Yes
Could've sworn the 2nd puzzle was featured in another one of ur vids
4:25.
White to win
plz don't stop fisherman journey
The guy that has auto-queen promotion: 😢
Puzzle 2 is kinda like the Saavedra position
Yea
knight and bishop end game wow
HE WAS NOT A FISHERMAN, HE WAS BOBBY FISCHERMAN
Stockfish and bobby fischer lore
“Fair enough”💀
2:09 if black doesn't play b5 but a5 first, if you get a knight, king goes out for a hunt. If you get a queen, black forces stalemate
b5 or a5, black still loses, but after b5 (as in the video), it is a mate in 17, if a5 is played first, it takes longer for white as it is a mate in 33. if playing against a human (not an engine), definately play a5 to give white more chances to make a mistake.
10:45 he can just move the knite
Okay, but that about the pawn? If Nb3+, then Kb2 defends the rook.
At 10:40 the best move would be knight to b3
Kb2, now what?
When are you clueless bozos going to learn that the best move is always the one Nelson states, and your ideas fail?
That would be so funny to me if fisherman watching this video.
I had seen second puzzle before