One of the most beautiful and instructive puzzle i've ever seen! Indispensable and subtle chess principles as sustaining tempo, move sequences and maneuvering, and zugzwang were all demonstrated. Loved this.
The sustaining of tempo was unnecessary after the pawn promoted to a queen. The game is ended in white's favor in fewer moves by Qf8, followed by Qg7 mate, no matter what black does. Edit: I was wrong. Qf8 leaves black with Qa1 ch.
More or less my idea. It is quite possible that I would have found every individual move over the board in that given position - not being sure whether it would win the game.
Love the geometry of the queen moves. I was surprised how far I could calculate this without seeing the position. 1. Re7+ Kf8 2. d7 Kg8 3. Re8+ Kh7 4. Rxd8 d1=Q 5. Rh8+ Kxh8 6. d8=Q+ Kh7 7. Qc7+ Kh6 8. Qxf4+ Kh7 9. Qh2+ Kg8 10. Qb8+ Kh7 11. Qxa7+ Kh6 12. Qxe3+ Kh7 13. Qh3+ Kg8 14. Qc8+ Kh7 Here I decided to set the position on the board to calculate from that because I wasn't too sure where the next couple of moves were leading. That was very helpful. 15. Qd7+ Kh6 16. Qh3+ Qh5 17. Qe3+ g5 18. Qxd3 (queen has to guard g6 square so there are only two moves - g4 and Qe8) g4 19. Qe3+ Kh7 20. Qe7+ Kh6/Kh8/Kg8 21. Qg7# 18. ... Qe8 19. Qh3+ Qh5 20. Qf5 (threatening Qxg5+ -> Qg7# and Qg6# so black's queen is paralysed) g4 21. Qf4+ Kh7 22. Qc7+ Kh6/Kh8/Kg8 23. Qg7# Gotta say I had a chess orgasm after solving this. As I said before, the geometry of the queen moves is truly fascinating.
@@Arnav-x6m nah, it might look intimidating but in reality all the moves are kinda forced and repetitive so it is easier to follow than the shorter puzzle but with more sublines. At least for me that's how it is.
5:00 - I would have guessed to go Qa1 to check, but I see the king can "escape" to h8, but that does leave open going BACK to h2 for a check to force the same position. So if I was playing this, I would have played Qa1 just in the hopes of a mismove of the king to f8. :P
The only queen that can get to a1 from that position is the black one, but it's white to move, and Qb8 is a check that forces Kh7. There is no opportunity for black queen to go a1. If you want to go a1 with the white queen at some point shortly after, black just takes with their queen and white loses.
Apart from the pawn-clearing, I recognized this pattern from the outset. The first 3 moves were literally my first try and it took me a moment to work out the specific tactics at 2 of the checkpoints. A queen out of position is no queen at all. A very instructive video on how powerful the King is in a mating attack in the endgame.
i would literally ragequit chess if this happened to me like usually you'd think the queen checks would end after a while but they dont and then u realise that the queen is taking all your pawns and piece slowly, with check and when u think it might be a draw it becomes a checkmate
At 2:16 Black should NOT promote the pawn to queen, but move the bishop back to attack that White pawn down near the end! There's no way for White to protect the pawn. In that position, it would seem that Black would win if it could (after Sacrificing the bishop and taking the white pawn) promote a pawn to a queen.
At 10:20, ...Qf7+ forced White to take. It's still a mate, but because the mate is not 1 move later, it's the only "tactic" left for Black to pull off a stalemate if White isn't exacting. It's again mate, but it's worth noting how this final stab Black takes heightens the level of how exacting White must be all the more so, up to this last ditch effort.
At 4:05 why not Qc7+? king goes down, now you play Qh2, they have to block with queen, Qf4+ they have to block with queen again or they get checkmated by the lines shown in the video, but you can just take it. edit: the pawn can block that last check and there's no good follow up
I saw a simpler solution with king g7 and let black promote since you can check mate with rook E7. Basically cut off the king. The king can’t move and if black moves the knight moves to check the king simply move the king to g8 which avoids the knight while keeping the pin on the king. Then when they promote since they don’t really have any other option, check mate with the rook since it’s protected and the king can’t enter the squares next to your king. The pawn promotion does nothing since it’s blocked my tbe bishop and by the time it moves to defend it’s too late
'king g7' Kg7 Kxd7 White is left with no rook, no way to defend their pawn, against a table full of black pieces, with a pawn ready to promote. 'The king can’t move' The king can take white rook.
so this is how you win a level 12 computer since they do not make mistakes like humans and play the best possible moves. I'll keep watching these videos to beat it. Thanks a lot
I don't know if someone will believe me but I am very glad to say that I managed to see each move of this fabulous puzzle. I exercise pretty often by doing chess puzzles but this is by far the greatest that I've ever solved.
That's a good question to ask. But the answer is very simple. If it's a knight, then it's no longer a queen, so instead of going to c7, the white queen goes to d7 and delivers mate on h3, because there is no queen to block it
What happens if black goes g5 instead of queening? The f pawn is now protected and the white king blocks its own queen from attacking the g pawn if the same strategy is applied.
This is like a reverse psychology puzzle. I feel like the super obvious moves are never right in higher level puzzles but that was the case a few times here
Reverse is the key. I suspect the puzzle is indeed designed with the ending first, and then rolled up with forced move after forced move, and putting down black pieces in the path of destruction as you go.
When I first saw this, I got the first couple of moves pretty quickly and realised a rook sac might be necessary to allow a white queen to arrive. I thought that White's ability to threaten mate might mean that black wouldn't even have time to promote his pawn, but it turns out that black can make a queen, but white will still win because his own new queen can get active immediately. Tempo is so important. It pans out a bit differently if it is black to play at the start.
I thought there was a simpler position for checkmate in 6 white moves from the initial position, diverging at 2:09, but that's because I didn't see that black's bishop was there to prevent that exact ending. At least I'm getting better about seeing paths and solutions!
It almost looks like you can move the queen from D1 to D2, and that would win also.. but it doesn't, K to h6 hides the king from any further check moves from the queen.. black queen then blocks, and the queen would have to move two moves to mate.. giving black an extra tempo, which is all they need to win the game
Queen e6 7:03 will lead to different checkmate If king go to f8 then queen on f7 If king go to h8 then queen on e8 king only only option is h7 so queen go to g6 king only option is h8 so queen on g7 checkmate Or if king go to h7 queen f7 is the answer if king go to backrank its mate in 1 if king go to h6 its mate in 1
'If king go to h8 then queen on e8 king only only option is h7 so queen go to g6 king only option is h8 so queen on g7 checkmate' Qg6 Qxg6 It's not a check, and it leaves white with just the king.
I think I learned more about end game positioning in this one video than all the other resources I've seen. Of course there are endgames with no queens and just knights and pawns. But it's these sort repeated check opportunities that demonstrate how you can hang on without feeling compelled to resign.
After white queen on d7 checks black's king on h7 (at 7:30) and forces it to go to h6, and then follow it up by going to g7, forcing the king to h5, the queen then simply could checkmate the king by going to h8.
I have a strong feeling that you dont need to leave the black diagonal and check mate faster. Going to c7, forcing the king to h6, and then h1, you reproduce the check mate pattern faster. The black queen has to defend, then queen to f4 forcing the king to h7. But now the king is blocked by its own queen and the check mate comes naturally at this point. Am I wrong ?
Can also repeat the queen move and then checkmate :) as in, after taking the first pawn, instead of continuing the line, isn’t it possible to go Q back to c2, have that Bosnian king go to h6, queen to h2.. and GG?
the intereisting thing is that a lot of players will play every move but nearly noone of them sees from the beginnint to the end. For me it was oh lets play Re7 i dont see to the end but it looks nice and after that d7 seemed the only one not loosing imidiately and so on . i found each single move but most of them because they where the only ones holding white into the game and not because i saw the checkmate.
3:21 wouldn't queen to f8 followed by queen to G7 be chackmate for white? no way for black to defend or retreat with king. could someone explain why this is not the case? surely I'm not the only person to see it if it would work.
How about from the very first move Rook to check and then white pawn one forward… to block the king? Although this kind of requires for the opponent to fail one move … I like your long sequence … it would come natural…
After you take the pawn at f4, why not go QC7 instead of Qh2? Black has to move Kh6,Qh2,Qh5,Qc7,Kh6/Kh8/Kg8,Qg7? Faster, so I must have missed something but we haven't gone over that option in the puzzle.
White responds with Qxg5+. Black plays Kh7. Then: Qh4. Kg8. Qh6. g5. Then finally white wins with Qg7# It definitely looks like a fork that wins White's queen. But white can simply take Black's queen and it can't be taken back as it's defended by the king.
2:33 I actually knew that this move was the correct move but it's crazy to think that you would sacrifice a rook to gain a tempo. It's rare that a tempo is more valuable than a rook, but I guess here it is
No, it is longer because you have to return to the line shown in the video, after Kh8 you have to play Qe8+ or Qc8+ and you are back at the same line, just wasted a move ;)
However, there is a minor distinction between puzzles and studies. Studies (like this one) could conceivably arise in play; puzzles usually require some convoluted moves. EDIT: The original position actually looks like a puzzle, but the position after ... d1Q looks like a study.
The only move is NOT queen to C7. Instead of queen to C7, do queen to F8 with mate on the next move. It doesn't matter, at that point that you sacrifice tempo; there is nothing that black can accomplish with any possible move. You WAAY overcomplicated your solution. Edit: Never mind. It's not an option because black can play Qa1 ch.
For completeness, after white QxB: If black plays Qh1 or Qh2 or Qg4, white can play Qg6 mate. If the Black Queen moves anywhere else on the d1-h5 diagonal, white can take it and has the upper hand. If black plays Pg4, white plays Qe3+, black either plays Qg5 (blocking), then white plays Qxg5, black plays Kh7, white plays Qg7 mate, or black plays Qe7+, if black then plays Kh8, white plays Qg7 mate, if black plays Qf7, white takes with check and it's mate next move whatever black does.
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I have never seen another puzzle like this one. It's absolutely fascinating. No one annotates these puzzles better than Nelson.
there is a video of his which covers a 130 move study that forcibly ends in checkmate.
I solved the puzzle in 2 minutes
@@EdinoRemerido yeah sure you did buddy
@@EdinoRemerido What took you so long?
@@Hallands. GOD DAMN IT
What's even crazier to me is that Stockfish instantly saw that whole sequence of mate in 24
more like mate in 18
@@condor07ukno, that is mate in 24
of course ... other moves for white lead to obviously lost positions so it quickly finds the ones that don't
One of the most beautiful and instructive puzzle i've ever seen! Indispensable and subtle chess principles as sustaining tempo, move sequences and maneuvering, and zugzwang were all demonstrated. Loved this.
The sustaining of tempo was unnecessary after the pawn promoted to a queen. The game is ended in white's favor in fewer moves by Qf8, followed by Qg7 mate, no matter what black does.
Edit: I was wrong. Qf8 leaves black with Qa1 ch.
fascinating puzzle! all of the moves are so intuitive, yet they create quite the interesting combination :D
More or less my idea. It is quite possible that I would have found every individual move over the board in that given position - not being sure whether it would win the game.
Absolutely brilliant. Shows the endless possibilities of Chess moves, the power of the Queen, and finding the way to win!
Love the geometry of the queen moves. I was surprised how far I could calculate this without seeing the position.
1. Re7+ Kf8 2. d7 Kg8 3. Re8+ Kh7 4. Rxd8 d1=Q 5. Rh8+ Kxh8 6. d8=Q+ Kh7 7. Qc7+ Kh6 8. Qxf4+ Kh7 9. Qh2+ Kg8 10. Qb8+ Kh7 11. Qxa7+ Kh6 12. Qxe3+ Kh7 13. Qh3+ Kg8 14. Qc8+ Kh7
Here I decided to set the position on the board to calculate from that because I wasn't too sure where the next couple of moves were leading. That was very helpful.
15. Qd7+ Kh6 16. Qh3+ Qh5 17. Qe3+ g5 18. Qxd3 (queen has to guard g6 square so there are only two moves - g4 and Qe8) g4 19. Qe3+ Kh7 20. Qe7+ Kh6/Kh8/Kg8 21. Qg7#
18. ... Qe8 19. Qh3+ Qh5 20. Qf5 (threatening Qxg5+ -> Qg7# and Qg6# so black's queen is paralysed) g4 21. Qf4+ Kh7 22. Qc7+ Kh6/Kh8/Kg8 23. Qg7#
Gotta say I had a chess orgasm after solving this. As I said before, the geometry of the queen moves is truly fascinating.
@@Arnav-x6m nah, it might look intimidating but in reality all the moves are kinda forced and repetitive so it is easier to follow than the shorter puzzle but with more sublines. At least for me that's how it is.
@@Arnav-x6m all of what he said is nonsense. Just typing out the moves. Don't lose yourself in that
U had a chess orgasm? What
Okay nerd
How long did it take u to write all of these?
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Your chess videos are immensely superior. You explain it well, and illustrate it well. I learn something every time.
5:00 - I would have guessed to go Qa1 to check, but I see the king can "escape" to h8, but that does leave open going BACK to h2 for a check to force the same position. So if I was playing this, I would have played Qa1 just in the hopes of a mismove of the king to f8. :P
The only queen that can get to a1 from that position is the black one, but it's white to move, and Qb8 is a check that forces Kh7. There is no opportunity for black queen to go a1.
If you want to go a1 with the white queen at some point shortly after, black just takes with their queen and white loses.
Queen deserves a rest after all that eating
Outstanding presentation! Videos like this should be used to spread the word about problem chess!
Also, for those who like to use software which cannot 1. Import games 2. Edit the board.
Use this moveset:
1. Nc3 Nc6 2. Rb1 Rb8 3. e4 Nf6 4. Bc4 g6 5. Ke2 h6 6. Be6 dxe6 7. Kf3 Qxd2 8.
Nd5 Nd8 9. Nxe7 Qxc2 10. Kf4 Qc4 11. Nc6 bxc6 12. Ke5 Ba6 13. Qd5 cxd5 14. Bxh6
d4 15. Bxf8 Nd5 16. Bd6 Rxh2 17. b3 Rxb3 18. axb3 Rxg2 19. Rh5 Rxf2 20. bxc4
Rf5+ 21. exf5 d3 22. Rb7 d2 23. cxd5 Bd3 24. Kf6 cxd6 25. fxg6 fxg6 26. Rf5 exf5
27. Nf3 f4 28. Ne5 dxe5 29. Rd7 e4 30. d6 e3
Incredible position! Black had so many pieces and was forced to lose all of them. Crazy! Amazing video as always Nelson!
At 3:20 I was convinced that the next move for White was to move Queen to F8, but then I saw that Black can just move Queen to A1 to Check.
Oh. Duh (me, not you).
Okay
10:09 what if black does Queen F3 which pins the Queen to the king
White takes with their queen.
I was thinking the same thing
You take the queen and it is not stalemate
Apart from the pawn-clearing, I recognized this pattern from the outset. The first 3 moves were literally my first try and it took me a moment to work out the specific tactics at 2 of the checkpoints.
A queen out of position is no queen at all. A very instructive video on how powerful the King is in a mating attack in the endgame.
I immediately saw the first move and the next few logical continuations, but I had absolutely no idea of the subsequent complications. Very nice!
i would literally ragequit chess if this happened to me
like usually you'd think the queen checks would end after a while
but they dont
and then u realise that the queen is taking all your pawns and piece slowly, with check
and when u think it might be a draw
it becomes a checkmate
Wow, like 9 mini puzzles in one position. Amazing composition. I love how your channel has unusual puzzles like this.
Okay
Judging from the opening position, the key for white was a series of forcing moves. And what's more forcing than a check? QED
Puzzles like this make me wonder how many times people have resigned seemingly obviously “lost” positions when in reality they had a forced win.
At 2:16 Black should NOT promote the pawn to queen, but move the bishop back to attack that White pawn down near the end! There's no way for White to protect the pawn. In that position, it would seem that Black would win if it could (after Sacrificing the bishop and taking the white pawn) promote a pawn to a queen.
No, get the queen was blacks best move.
1. Re7+ Kf8 2. d7 Kg8 3. Re8+ Kh7 4. Rxd8 Bb5 5. Rh8+ Kxh8 6. d8=Q+ Kh7 (6... Be8 7. Qxe8+ Kh7 8. Qxg6+ Kh8 9. Qg7#) 7. Qf8 e2 8. Qg7#
Perfectly shows the power of the queen and the importance of tempo.
I had no idea what the moves were supposed to be, but I did know one thing: don't stop checking. Check every move, no matter what.
At 5:00 , Qc7 is a faster mate I guess because although we give black a free move, nothing it can do will prevent a mate in 1. Am I missing something?
Black responds with stuff like Qa1+ or Qf1+, and begins to perpetually check white, or even mate.
Yes. Black will start checking us (Qa1+) and we'll lose this
At 10:20, ...Qf7+ forced White to take. It's still a mate, but because the mate is not 1 move later, it's the only "tactic" left for Black to pull off a stalemate if White isn't exacting. It's again mate, but it's worth noting how this final stab Black takes heightens the level of how exacting White must be all the more so, up to this last ditch effort.
Black has a pawn. No stalemate.
Excellent demo. Very instructive. Congratulations
At 4:05 why not Qc7+? king goes down, now you play Qh2, they have to block with queen, Qf4+ they have to block with queen again or they get checkmated by the lines shown in the video, but you can just take it.
edit: the pawn can block that last check and there's no good follow up
@@juniorgaming_0926 edited. It's annoying I can't see the chess board while typing a comment on mobile
Why not Qc7+? Well, it's Qc7+?, so...
I had the exact same question and didn't realize the pawn.
The can block with the pawns
Easier: Check my post above. At 3:30 go Qf8 and it's mate in 1.
I saw a simpler solution with king g7 and let black promote since you can check mate with rook E7. Basically cut off the king. The king can’t move and if black moves the knight moves to check the king simply move the king to g8 which avoids the knight while keeping the pin on the king. Then when they promote since they don’t really have any other option, check mate with the rook since it’s protected and the king can’t enter the squares next to your king. The pawn promotion does nothing since it’s blocked my tbe bishop and by the time it moves to defend it’s too late
'king g7'
Kg7 Kxd7
White is left with no rook, no way to defend their pawn, against a table full of black pieces, with a pawn ready to promote.
'The king can’t move'
The king can take white rook.
@@williammayson5270
The pawn does not protect the rook. Pawns do not protect what is right in front of them on the same file.
@@thetaomegatheta I see. I was assuming black would promote its pawn rather than take the rook.
Amazing puzzle, easy to follow and understand yet still complex and full of small details
so this is how you win a level 12 computer since they do not make mistakes like humans and play the best possible moves. I'll keep watching these videos to beat it. Thanks a lot
ABC: always be checking!
I don't know if someone will believe me but I am very glad to say that I managed to see each move of this fabulous puzzle. I exercise pretty often by doing chess puzzles but this is by far the greatest that I've ever solved.
Great job. I couldn’t tell I was going to win until the last 5 moves. But I was able to pause and figure out each move he did.
@@ecospider5 That's good. The most difficult it seemed to me to realize the plan and the moment with the queen moving it to the lighted squares.
5:44 What if Black under promoted to a knight?
Black loses the ability to immediately start putting white in check, giving white a lot more freedom to do stuff.
That's a good question to ask. But the answer is very simple. If it's a knight, then it's no longer a queen, so instead of going to c7, the white queen goes to d7 and delivers mate on h3, because there is no queen to block it
Then after Rook sacrifice and d8=Q+ Kh7 you play Qf8 and black can't stop Qg7#
What happens if black goes g5 instead of queening? The f pawn is now protected and the white king blocks its own queen from attacking the g pawn if the same strategy is applied.
Il y aurait mat en quatre coups : Th8+ Rxh8 d8=D+ Rh7 Dd7+ suivi du mat en g7 ou h3. Bien à vous
i’m so proud of myself, i actually saw almost all the moves as nelson explained it
Thanks for all these wonderful puzzles and explaining them so clearly.
Thank you so much for so instructive moves on that puzzle :) Stay sharp, play smart ! Luvit !
This is like a reverse psychology puzzle. I feel like the super obvious moves are never right in higher level puzzles but that was the case a few times here
Reverse is the key. I suspect the puzzle is indeed designed with the ending first, and then rolled up with forced move after forced move, and putting down black pieces in the path of destruction as you go.
Watching these puzzles is helping. I actually came up with the correct moves this time.
When I first saw this, I got the first couple of moves pretty quickly and realised a rook sac might be necessary to allow a white queen to arrive. I thought that White's ability to threaten mate might mean that black wouldn't even have time to promote his pawn, but it turns out that black can make a queen, but white will still win because his own new queen can get active immediately. Tempo is so important. It pans out a bit differently if it is black to play at the start.
I thought there was a simpler position for checkmate in 6 white moves from the initial position, diverging at 2:09, but that's because I didn't see that black's bishop was there to prevent that exact ending. At least I'm getting better about seeing paths and solutions!
It looks like start of the video white can play two moves for checkmate
Really cool puzzle, beginning was easy but that final trick with repositioning queen escaped me
It almost looks like you can move the queen from D1 to D2, and that would win also.. but it doesn't, K to h6 hides the king from any further check moves from the queen.. black queen then blocks, and the queen would have to move two moves to mate.. giving black an extra tempo, which is all they need to win the game
What are you talking about? Only the black queen is ever on d1, and you seem to imply that it's white queen that is there.
The greatest chess puzzle I've ever seen in my life.
Queen e6 7:03 will lead to different checkmate
If king go to f8 then queen on f7
If king go to h8 then queen on e8 king only only option is h7 so queen go to g6 king only option is h8 so queen on g7 checkmate
Or if king go to h7 queen f7 is the answer if king go to backrank its mate in 1 if king go to h6 its mate in 1
'If king go to h8 then queen on e8 king only only option is h7 so queen go to g6 king only option is h8 so queen on g7 checkmate'
Qg6 Qxg6
It's not a check, and it leaves white with just the king.
I think I learned more about end game positioning in this one video than all the other resources I've seen. Of course there are endgames with no queens and just knights and pawns. But it's these sort repeated check opportunities that demonstrate how you can hang on without feeling compelled to resign.
After white queen on d7 checks black's king on h7 (at 7:30) and forces it to go to h6, and then follow it up by going to g7, forcing the king to h5, the queen then simply could checkmate the king by going to h8.
Qd7+ Kh6
Qg7+ Kh5
Qh8+ Kg4.
Your suggestion lacks a checkmate.
@@thetaomegatheta Ah, the pesky g4 square...😖
Mindblowing is the correct expression, thanks a lot for this wonderful puzzle
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As a 900, I am proud to say that I found the first half of the moves
I improvised the win, but was surprised it took so long.
I have a strong feeling that you dont need to leave the black diagonal and check mate faster. Going to c7, forcing the king to h6, and then h1, you reproduce the check mate pattern faster. The black queen has to defend, then queen to f4 forcing the king to h7. But now the king is blocked by its own queen and the check mate comes naturally at this point. Am I wrong ?
A queen can't go to h1 from c7, nor can a queen go from h1 to f4. This queen can also not go from c7 to h2 right away because of the pawn on f4.
@@thetaomegatheta OK I'll give my solution from my computer it will be easier
@@lucasbo3904
Well?
Jesus. That was a long explanation. Glad you’ve explained it the whole way!
Nice show! I hope your channel will remain longer without another interruption.
Amazing puzzle! Thanks for this great explanation.
Superb video! thanks for so nice content and best of luck for your new year
Awesome!!! That’s bud. I really enjoy learning from you.
That would be so unsatisfyingly if all those moves lead to stalemate
Superb...
Keep posting this kind of puzzles
Cool puzzle but the simpler solution at 5:10 would be Queen to C7 check, then checkmate in 4 moves without having to capture 3 more pieces.
4:54 could i also moved the queen to A2? Putting the king in check
Kh8 makes it so that Qxa7 is not a check.
Can also repeat the queen move and then checkmate :) as in, after taking the first pawn, instead of continuing the line, isn’t it possible to go Q back to c2, have that Bosnian king go to h6, queen to h2.. and GG?
the intereisting thing is that a lot of players will play every move but nearly noone of them sees from the beginnint to the end. For me it was oh lets play Re7 i dont see to the end but it looks nice and after that d7 seemed the only one not loosing imidiately and so on . i found each single move but most of them because they where the only ones holding white into the game and not because i saw the checkmate.
Superb puzzle & analysis.
3:21 wouldn't queen to f8 followed by queen to G7 be chackmate for white? no way for black to defend or retreat with king.
could someone explain why this is not the case? surely I'm not the only person to see it if it would work.
'no way for black to defend or retreat with king'
... Qa1+
qf8 isn't a check, so black can start continuous checks initiating from qa1
@@krauq ah i missed that. I checked that the Queen could not move diagonally to check white but missed qa1.
How about from the very first move Rook to check and then white pawn one forward… to block the king? Although this kind of requires for the opponent to fail one move … I like your long sequence … it would come natural…
'How about from the very first move Rook to check and then white pawn one forward… to block the king?'
With what?
After you take the pawn at f4, why not go QC7 instead of Qh2? Black has to move Kh6,Qh2,Qh5,Qc7,Kh6/Kh8/Kg8,Qg7?
Faster, so I must have missed something but we haven't gone over that option in the puzzle.
'Black has to move Kh6,Qh2,Qh5,Qc7,Kh6/Kh8/Kg8,Qg7'
White Qc7 after black Qh5 is not a check. This allows black to start checking white.
@@thetaomegatheta So obvious when you point it out!
at 4:57 , couldn't the white queen just move to h6? I don't see what black can do to prevent checkmate in 1 if the queen moved to h6
And i forgot to mention that after queen to h6 there is a threat of checkmate at g7
Qh6 is not a check. Black is just going to respond with Qf1+, and start checking white.
@@thetaomegatheta damn no wonder im 900 elo
On the 2nd puzzle you should have went down to the white square because from there there is a checkmate in 3 or 4
What if the black pawn at d1 turns into knight instead of queen, protecting e3 pawn?
An even faster win for white.
9:06, what if black blocks with his queen on g5, checking white?
White simply takes the queen and checkmates even faster.
Qxg5+ Kh7
Qh4+ Kg8
Qh6 g5 or any other move
Qg7#
with the help of SF14: This is a true Mate in 24 for white! All other moves are Mate in at most 12 for black. Amazing,
In 8:54 Black can play Qg5+ and fork the king and the queen. @ChessVibes, what do you think?
White responds with Qxg5+. Black plays Kh7. Then:
Qh4. Kg8.
Qh6. g5.
Then finally white wins with Qg7#
It definitely looks like a fork that wins White's queen. But white can simply take Black's queen and it can't be taken back as it's defended by the king.
So this demonstrates the concepts of king safety and tempo
Good stuff, Nelson!
3:16
Can anyone please tell me why we have to do all this Qc7 etc instead of just Qf8 with unavoidable Qg7 after that?
Damn, someone beat me to it by 2 days. Hi.
At 9:10 why the black doesn’t use its queen to shield the check and forcing a change?
Blunders the queen. White just takes with their queen, and black can't retake.
after queening, Q-f8! Black is unable to prevent mate, Q-g7 😏😏 the point of the game is to checkmate the King, not (re)gaining material.
Qa1+
2:33 I actually knew that this move was the correct move but it's crazy to think that you would sacrifice a rook to gain a tempo. It's rare that a tempo is more valuable than a rook, but I guess here it is
6:55 queen to e6 is better than queen to c8. because it creates a mate faster.
No, it is longer because you have to return to the line shown in the video, after Kh8 you have to play Qe8+ or Qc8+ and you are back at the same line, just wasted a move ;)
@@lenalittle4193 ahh missed that. this is why im low elo lol
The nice sample of the meaning of Tempo and using bad position of the black king .
3:29 why not queen d7 King h6 queen h3 black queen h5 block then queen d7 checkmate on next move
Indeed ,i saw many puzzles,but this one looks like a match's middle game,truely magnifisant.
9:11 but what if instead of the pawn black stops the check using the queen forcing us to take it or move our king then what?
Blunders the queen. White just takes with their queen.
You could subtitle this one "whipped between pillar and post"
AT 00:42, why not Pon D7 check ! And then, keep on attacking
Kd8 escapes. If white goes Ra8, then black just takes the pawn.
Nelson,thank you for sharing this gorgeous puzzle.
Ho hum, this happens to me every time I am up 3 pawns and a bishop.
However, there is a minor distinction between puzzles and studies. Studies (like this one) could conceivably arise in play; puzzles usually require some convoluted moves.
EDIT: The original position actually looks like a puzzle, but the position after ... d1Q looks like a study.
The only move is NOT queen to C7. Instead of queen to C7, do queen to F8 with mate on the next move. It doesn't matter, at that point that you sacrifice tempo; there is nothing that black can accomplish with any possible move. You WAAY overcomplicated your solution.
Edit: Never mind. It's not an option because black can play Qa1 ch.
I will try to imagine this man talking and explaining in my brain next time i play chess
Fascinating is one of the most used words on this channel 😂
and the most correct one at that
Nelson, this kind of chess studies surpass any imagination. Thank you.
2:18 what if black gets a knight instead of queen to protect the e3 pawn?
They lose the ability to threaten checks, which means that white gets enough tempo to end the game even faster.
What a beautiful windmill combination.
For completeness, after white QxB:
If black plays Qh1 or Qh2 or Qg4, white can play Qg6 mate. If the Black Queen moves anywhere else on the d1-h5 diagonal, white can take it and has the upper hand.
If black plays Pg4, white plays Qe3+, black either plays Qg5 (blocking), then white plays Qxg5, black plays Kh7, white plays Qg7 mate, or black plays Qe7+, if black then plays Kh8, white plays Qg7 mate, if black plays Qf7, white takes with check and it's mate next move whatever black does.
Amazing windmill queen tactic checkmate
What will happen if black queen will play G5 ? At 8:42 is that illegal move ?
Blunders the queen. White just takes with theirs.
If I keep checking my opponent would just resign
Late in the game, Did blocking with the Queen instead of pushing the pawn get covered? 9:08
White would simply take it ;)