Another student at the Forestry College where I earned my Scalers license asked the Instructor what is a face cord? The Instructor sat down , waited for silence and said,, face cord is only a word invented by dishonest firewood sellers to make customers satisfied with less then they paid for. He suggested that would be a good exam question . This is by far the best video out of many l have seen about firewood, thanks.
@@mikeanders7542 i can agree with you on that, i have measured out truck beds stack the wood as tight as possible then multiply till i get my 128 cubic feet! 4x4x8 just makes it easier to measure and you get familiar with the look.
Spot on! Thanks. Many people getting ripped off. When I show up with 1/2 cord in an F350 they say they didn't want a full cord, only 1/2 cord. When they learn that it is an actual 1/2 cord they are happy but also very angry at their previous suppliers.
I grew up in a house heated by firewood in the 70"s & 80"s. My dad and I spent all year in NJ cutting wood for the winter. I was basically an all year job. But we also sold wood on the side. My dad always said a true cord was stacked 4x4x8, which equals 128 cf. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many cord of wood I cut and split growing up. Mostly with an axe and maul.
Hello Brad I just found your channel I found it very informative. I heat my house with wood. I’m almost 82 years old and I still drop trees buck and split them up I burn mainly oak,maple, hickory and locust. But the problem is as I have gotten this old it just takes a lot out of me. I really did enjoy your video and I am looking forward to watching all your videos
Well welcome to the channel. Glad to have you here. There are lots of great people in this community and we all try to help each other. I think it’s awesome that your still doing the work! It’s always nice to do a job that you can see what your efforts resulted in. I hope you enjoy the channel and again, thanks for coming along
Great video! Sound like a reputable company. Thanks for explaining what a true cord is. So many people have no idea. I’ve had sellers try to sell me a cord that was actually alot less than even a face cord. 4’x4’x16-18”
Really good explanation Brad. A lot of people don’t have a clue about what a cord is. I can’t believe you need to have a permit to sell firewood. Just another revenue stream for the government, smh. I left upstate NY and moved south 42 years ago. I was glad to get away from a lot of that government control. Unfortunately I think it’s creeping towards NC.
Ty for taking the time to explain a cord and face cord, and using a truck to help me visualize the amount. You saved me from being that lady who mistakenly ordered too much wood!
Super helpful information. Thank you for explaining. I was surprised that there were different names for a cord of wood because I thought a cord of wood was a volume, which your video confirmed it is. Learning a face cord is a third of a cord is vital for accurate ordering. Thank you!
Great vid👍. Here in SW Missouri I deal with the same confusion. The most common term here for a 1/3 of a cord is a “rick”. Most people call and want to order wood by the truckload and then I have to clarify things. I have also noticed that the people who heat with wood and will buy a cord or more they know exactly what they want. It’s the customers who want a rick or 2 for a fire place or a backyard fire pit that aren’t sure. And several times I have showed up to deliver a rick or two and stack it the customers are surprised by how much extra wood is there, which after an explanation of volume means they were cheated in the past. Keep up the good work Brad😆
Great video. Takes me back to when I was a kid. My father ran a firewood business as a side hustle. It's how I earned money as a kid. We sold around 300 chord a year. Cut, split, and pile all summer. Then deliver all fall and winter. 600 chord of firewood piled in a field was quite a sight. That's right-600chord. 300 chord dried for a year and the other 300 set to dry for a year. Great memories.
Good video. There is a lot of confusion with people. I’ve sold firewood and I’ve bought it at times too. There are way too many sellers that either don’t know or don’t care what a full cord is. The next biggest topic of confusion caused by bad or unknowing sellers would be what exactly seasoned firewood is.
Well done, your explanation was on the money. I have been cutting and splitting wood since I was 16 helping my Dad and Uncles at our hunting cabin in NYS. Then I was cutting it to heat my family home, about 4 years ago I had my hip replaced & 62 years young now it's not as easy to get fire wood anymore. So I started ordering some fire wood, it's very hard to find someone who knows what a cord of firewood is.
Thanks for this video Brad. I almost didn't click on it because I know what a cord is, and I know what a face cord is. Of course, that was before I watched your video and found out I have been wrong for 20 years. I was sure that a face cord was 1/2 of a cord. So all these years I have been getting a cord delivered and thought the guys was being generous because after filling 2 face cord holders, I always had some extra. Ha Ha, joke was on me. I am about to order firewood and have called around to get prices here in Northern New Jersey. You mention in your video that you like the chance to educate your customers and try not to embarrass them. I think I will have to make sure whoever I get the wood from is educated and will try not to embarrass them! You have a great style and I appreciate the content. Subscribed.
Thank you! Very informative and well explained. This video should be required training for all new firewood sellers. Many people in my area try to claim a level truck bed as a full cord, and unfortunately also price it as that. Often it will even actually be a loosely thrown in, level truck bed, claimed as a full cord!
Many decades ago, I pretty much made a third of my living in Sanders County, MT harvesting and selling firewood, licensed with the county with the low income energy assistance program. I cut a lot of fir trees that were dead and standing dead beetle killed lodgepole pine. It was seasoned by the time late autumn came around. I named my price, got an order from the county office, made a delivery, had the customer sign a form that it was delivered and were happy, gave the form to the office and was paid within a week. Yes, I split it down to stove sizes. A lot of work, but I was my own boss and I was young. Those days are long gone.
One of the struggles I have with selling firewood is that I'm honest with my cord, and even give a bit extra. The problem is that I'm competing with people who will deliver what they call a "cord", but is maybe 25% less. They charge less then I could and customers see the lower price of a cord and think they're getting a better deal.
Thanks for all the info. My son is about to embark on a firewood business and has priced out all of the equipment and the pay out including maintenance, storage, security, etc. Your videos are priceless!! Hope to see more. Thanks again!!
Excellent info. There’s so much confusion and misinformation on this topic. I too have heard people say that a full cord can fit in a pickup truck. I always say, “my truck is an F350 with an 8 foot bed. I can’t fit a cord in my truck.”
I learned early on (age 16 now 67) what a cord was. A lot of people in my area refer to 1/3 cord as a rick. Having hauled a rock I know it will fill a short box pick up. I wish more people would see this video. Great video by the way.
Nice to meet you, Brad. I'm new to your channel and appreciate a honest person when it comes to firewood sales. My wife and I are both 67 and cut, split and stack our own firewood, a great team. We mostly get logs that I haul home on my 5x10' trailer, pulled behind my 2001 Grand Cherokee and some rounds from our local Fire Chief that's clearing a large area of his property that has a lot of dead Ash trees. Keeps us busy and in some sort of shape and beats paying those high utility bills. Again, great to meet you and discover a great channel.
Hello, and welcome to the channel. Glad you found it! Sounds like you and your wife work great together. Ash is awesome firewood and dries quickly. Its great exercise and mental therapy I think. Hope you to continue to enjoy and I wish you all the best.
Yes. that is what is is in Southern Indiana- populated with Appalachia emigrants, of course. Alternative from what I can tell is “face cord”. Have no idea why people would refer to it as a cord.
Well done! Nothing like wood heat. Loved seeing all those neatly stacked rows. Cutting firewood is my planet fitness and forest management is my favorite hobby.
You're absolutely right about the title bringing in new subscribers. I just found this video, and though I already knew most of the information, I'm now a subscriber!
Been bucking/and splitting my own trees for firewood for decades and you’re correct, many firewood dealers are dishonest. They won’t even pack pack the wood tightly into a 4-4-8 stoat, thinking you won’t notice. Quite often they need to make a second trip to make up for the shortage. My experience was with a bunch of good old boys who had probably been screwing over ignorant customers for years. How many ways can you represent 4-4-8 dimensions? I had never heard of a face cord before. I only knew ricks and cords. Thank you for putting together a nice video to educate the masses. In my current world up in the mountains of Northern California, it would be a rare firewood dealer who would try to rip off his public.
Thanks for the explanation. I've been cutting stacking and burning firewood for almost 30 years and never really knew the exact definition of a cord. I don't buy it or sell it I just do it for myself but its nice to know. New subscriber here. Thanks 👍
Great discussion video and appreciated your insight and knowledge on these topics! And thanks for sharing that recent firewood costumers request, that goes along way as you noted and I’ve also heard this from other firewood channels that I have seen about connecting with the client prior and making sure both parties have the discussions / understanding prior to showing up on delivery day! Goes a long way with customer service and I know just from watching your channel over the past few weeks that this is one of your strong points for sure with your business/ hobby :). Appreciate that chat Brad! Thanks again! Cheers! Andrew from NB :)
New here to your channel and subscribed. Greetings from an old Wood Tick in North Michigan. I been cutting, splitting, stacking, burning my entire 67 years. I only cut for myself at 18" to 22". I have seen folks happy with receiving face chords as skinny as 8". I hope folks listen to what you are saying.
Great job Brad, in explaining a measured cord. 👍👍 There are a lot of people selling firewood on FB market place listing the amounts wrong! This should help many people!
We go by ricks here in Middle Tennessee, but I get all the time bring me a cord. First think I do is send them a pic of Rick rack that’s full. Then I ask you want 3 times this amount and 9/10 they say no that’s what I want right there which is a rick lol. People are appreciative of you explaining. I also don’t want to show up with a cord and they don’t have room for it, because they didn’t know what an actual cord was. Very informative video too.
Very informative TY, the only thing i wish you could have added would be what an average "range" of cost 1/3, 1/2, 1 full cord would be reasonable. I know there's a lot of variables that go into that but just a reasonable price. New to it all, thanks again.
I, too, have been harvesting and burning firewood for 35 years. And selling it to the members of the local gun club that drive past my property to get into the club. It was always known what the dimensions were for the varied terms. But nowadays, trucks don't normally come with 8' beds, and sideboards would be needed with the 8' beds. I simply built a 8' ×4' ×4' with a slanted roof and 2 dividing walls. They took what they wanted and paid me when they saw me, as I hand split wood in the alley next to the R.R. CROSSING entering the gun club. Typical homeowners nowadays aren't aware of these important factors, so thanks for your detailed information!
good job on explaining the difference lengths, in the suburbs of Levias Ky most suppliers have 12 16 and 24 in. the price for face cord is the same, a lot more labor in a 12 in verses 24 in. cords.
Thank you for the EXCELLENT presentation on what a cord of wood is. I have always thought it was a single row. Also size was confusing. This is my first year cutting wood and I just realized too that I need seasoned wood. Never burned wood before, but we are replacing an old stove, which was dangerous, by design, and having the chimney lined with steel. I'm a chick, age 68 and even looking at a wood splitter, Ariens 27 ton, 8 horse. Thanks for clarity and I subscribed. I am going to buy my seasoned wood from a guy everyone around here thinks is expensive, but I'll be able to determine that he knows what the heck he is doing and in the end, I will likely save my body and my house, but getting dryer, proper wood,
That has got to be the newest Woodyard I have ever seen… I haul all of my own wood and every time I go and pick up my firewood for the year, regardless of who I get it from I am always shocked at how big of a mess their yard is… I’m impressed
Very well explained for all those who have issues with some sellers when buying firewood by the CORD!! Not everyone I have crossed paths with speaks the same math for a true cord!!!! I saved this for future use!! No more arguments with sellers!
This is my first year getting an inventory together to season and hopefully start selling next year. Can't thank you enough for the video! You're on a roll. I've already used your video to make racks with pallets. Can get twice as much wood stacked for about 1/4 of the price (when comparing it to the metal racks I've bought on Amazon). I'm also going to build a bundle making frame soon from your other video I've taken notes on. You help out your viewers more than you know! Btw, congrats on the 5k subscribers! 🙂
Thanks so much. That’s what I love about this community. Helping people out is what I strive to do. Thanks for watching and letting me know. This keeps me going!
I just found your channel and I am impressed with your knowledge of what a common mistake customer's make, I'm doing my research on the firewood business and I am hoping to get started on my own journey very soon.
great information new into the fire wood business i am a owner of UPPER END landscape martha's vineyard i climb for alot of my jobs and do full removals ash, oak , etc thank you for showing me proper ways to sell my wood i am saving to buck up!!!! e
well . Iike this fella and this is a great video . i wood like add to the pick up truck deal ..... 8x5x3.2= 128.so if you sell firewood in a full size pick up build some sides and a head rack and stack it 3 ft high and mound it up being higher in the center which will give you you 3.2 in the equation . firewood and power saws saved me from myself. good job on this video
Wow buddy, so nice to see you here. I’ve learned so much from you not just about firewood but about living life. Thanks for commenting and hope you all had a great holiday!
Back in the day a cord of rounds was 8' x 4' x 4'. Split wood measures more than a round cord. So in Maryland the buyer gets more wood. Also, the measurement is different for a thrown cord or a stacked cord.
Brad your true on your words . Back in my wood days we delivered 3 full cords in a tandem dump truck patch and round off to it. We cut into 2 lenght 12” for the cook house stove and 16” for heating stove . Your very true about a pick - up take a cord off wood . It’s can be done went dry , BUT BUT you got to put high sideboard on the pick - up . My wet yellow birch a full cord might take it 1 ton or 3500 . Good luck on your axle weight on the license road . Here there highway inspection will be on to you for weight on your truck from 3500 and up , plus weight license on your trailer . Here we pay for weight to haul onto your axle . We call it’s axle weight , so went we haul max axle weight we paid for it’s to haul . A lot put minus weight on trailer about its less money , but if the highway inspection weight your load it’s will cost you $$$ in weight over your permit . Back in the wood a big timber use to take 1 1/4 tons pick back out to the landing .it’s a load with no B s..t down off a mtns . Take cord and 1/4 at 8’x 4” long put a cable around the centre, pull it’s tight up behind the jack and drive it’s straight down a mtns . See if your nerve as steel in the mtns off Newfoundland ca. Brad your right A CORD in USA and CANADA are the SAME . 8’ long , 4 ‘ height and 4’ wide . How you want to cut its up , you can pick a # 12 “ , 16” , 24 “ and so on . Brad great video, if your buddy take 10 full cords , you will make a hole into the wood yard for sure . Be careful and god bless to you and the family .
Just started our 17th winter using an outdoor wood boiler to heat our home. I mostly cut, haul, split, and stack my own firewood. I’m 61 now. As u know firewood is work. I’m considering buying firewood in the future. What do u sell a load with ur 7 x14 dump trailer loosely stacked? I live in Minnesota. There’s a guy here that sells wood. He gets about $200 for that amount. Mostly ash.
A standard size pickup bed, slightly mounded is appx a face cord. If you really mound it, you can fit a half a cord. I like to pick up my own wood, and that's what I get when I throw a measured face cord in there. (I don't have anywhere for a vendor to dump off a load here, and rather than waste his time- and clog up the road- while we transfer the wood to MY truck, or haul it out back 1 cart at a time, it's just easier to go get it) I believe "Rick" is another term for face cord. More common in the South and parts of the midwest. Sometimes the confusion goes both ways. I ordered a face cord of mixed premium hardwood for grilling from a guy advertising green/fresh cut firewood, with a list of available species. Cherry, hickory, and sugar maple is what I asked for. He turned out to be a tree service with a nice side gig. He shows up to my house with a dump truck! One of those small ones they use to haul mulch and stuff. By the time we emptied it out, my pickup was piled 3-4 feet above the roof, and squatting hard, lol. He said that's a face cord- and charged me as such. I ended up filling TWO 1 facecord woodhaven racks! (one of which I had to order because of this, lol) So, sometimes it works out. And yes, I DO keep a sharp eye out for his ad on marketplace, lol. ( it was seriously nice quality wood- I'd gladly buy again even if I knew I would get a measured face.)
New subscriber today to your channel. Great information keep up the good work. Fixing to go back into your archives and watch the rest of the videos. Be safe my friend.
I’ve been cutting and stacking firewood since I was 12 yr old which is about 50years. I’ve on occasion purchased firewood and have made it absolutely clear that I wanted a full cord 4’x4’x8’, 128 cubic foot and had them show up with pickup with 2’ side boards lose stack and mounded and advised them that what the brought me was not a full cord, I paid for a full cord and I expected a full cord and to prove it I stacked it with their help and sure as shit it was barely 2/3 of a cord so it it proves that there are those who are taking advantage of most people and there are those selling firewood who don’t understand what a full cord is either.
Awesome video ! Very true there is so many people that really have no idea what a cord is, I don't deliver much people just come pick it up, and they think they can put a cord on a half ton truck, until I tell them they probably won't get it all on in 2 trips, you really have to do just as you did so they understand, Great Job !
After 3 seasons heating almost exclusively with wood, this has been the clearest explanation of measurement - both wood and trailer that I’ve found. Thank you! Now which wood is the best to burn? And how much control would those selling firewood typically have over the kind of wood they sell?
Many people think Oak is the only firewood. It’s not… it has good heat value but takes the longest to dry. Locust is even better but also takes 1-2 years to dry. Maple, Cherry, Ash, are all great choices as well. Best to burn would depend on what your using it for. Primary heat for your home? You want BTU’s, supplemental heat for your home or ambience then BTU’s and/or a nice flame may be important. Outside camp fires, you want a nice bright flame. Oak and locust for example burn hot but not a very bright flame. Others burn nearly as hot and have a nicer flame. Hope this helps and thanks for watching
@@FirewoodattheFurnace Hickory has high BTU output compared to others. It does leave a little more ash but none the less is good for heat. Plus, all of the scrap pieces you can save for smoking. Same with Cherry and Apple if you prefer. You can add the smaller branches to sell by cutting them into chips for smoking or for arts and crafts or cutting boards if you have the time. Nothing is wasted. 😉
Thanks for the video. I often heard the term 'cord of wood' and did ask once. The explanation I received was so many feet of 4" x 2" (Aussie talk; not 2 x 4 for you Yanks); I could never visualize that. Your explanation 8' x 4' x4' finally painted the picture for me - thanks again.
Thanks for the full explanation. I just recently had an inground firepit installed so I needed to make sure I understood the measurements of how much wood I needed to buy. Maybe one small detail you can add to future videos for the math impaired. You can tell approximately how many pieces of wood to be expected in a cord or face cord. Overall, I really enjoyed the video.
How much wood could a dump trailer dump if a dump trailer could dump wood?? Answer: 1.5 cord (loosely piled). Great video!! Very informative. Straightened me out that's for sure.
Thank you for the information. I'm new and am just starting to learn about how much wood helps to keep our home warm and how much we need to heat our home in the winter to offset the cost of gas.
I've noticed in our area people selling "facecords" of wood which measure 4' x 8' x 12", which is 75% of a facecord. I've been sharing that information on my channel. A facecord of wood stacked loosely required approximately 60 cubic feet of space.
Hey Brad. Thank you. Very informative,and I like your presentation; direct and straight to the point. I myself am a city boy don’t know anything about wood except how to start a fire in a fireplace. So thank you sir. I’m merely looking to buy firewood for a fireplace for romantic evenings during the winter. That b ing said I’m thinking I’ll probably just need a third of a cord. Do they sell smaller quantities or would that even be worth it since this is Christmas and we’re looking at January and February to go. Again, I really appreciate the video and your information but especially the way you presented it. Thank you Sir.
I’m new on you channel. Very informative. I use to cut and split my own wood. It wasn’t until health issues that I had to start buying it. I’m surprised at how many sellers don’t have a clue. I ordered 3 cords from one guy. His first delivery he said was three cords. I stacked and measured and it wasn’t quite 2 cords. It took him three trips before he got it right. I can’t imagine how many people he has ripped off. Where in Maryland are you?
Hello Rob and welcome to the channel. Glad to have you along. I am in the north eastern corner of Maryland. Our county borders both Pennsylvania and Delaware. Hope you enjoy the channel
Good to see this. However, I live in the UK. We don't have measurements like that here. A cord of firewood there is like a pint of beer here. Glass full, if not it is not a full pint. Here firewood is by the dump trailer or the builders bag. £70 for a builders bag of ash. In all honesty, 2 builders bags don't evaluate to even a full face cord. I try to cut and split my own firewood, but when I need to buy, I look at USA and realize how much more you get there for your money. What do you charge for a full cord? I have a friend who has a wood burner who simply buys wood from the supermarket. He has gas central heating in the house also. He likes to keep the wood fire going through winter because he likes the heat better than from the radiators. Just burning 3-4 hours every evening. He told me he has spent £2000 on kiln dried firewood this year! Plus kindling! I was shocked. A small amount of searching, chainsaw bucking and splitting only takes a few days a year for me, and sometimes I buy a bit, like £200 for 2 or 3 builders bags to help fill my woodstore, but spending so much on a small amount of firewood seems unproductive.
Great video Brad! I had an idea but definitely learned something today! Watch for the big yellow trucks & the air horn as I ride by! Lol I try to say hi when I see ya out there working!
Another student at the Forestry College where I earned my Scalers license asked the Instructor what is a face cord? The Instructor sat down , waited for silence and said,, face cord is only a word invented by dishonest firewood sellers to make customers satisfied with less then they paid for. He suggested that would be a good exam question . This is by far the best video out of many l have seen about firewood, thanks.
OMG 3 ROWS EACH 16" WIDE 16 X 3 EQUALS 4' GO TO COLLEGE TO LEAR A 3RD GRADE MATH PROBLEM?
Yep, face cord is sold by a con man trying to screw someone over!!!
Face cord is a rip off 4x8x17 inches
@@Joe-k5b7y yep, because they will charge more than a third of a cord for you to have a face cord!
A true "Face" cord is half of a cord.
So 2X4X8, or 64 cubic feet.
Pretty simple to understand.
128 cubic feet any way you measurer as long as it makes 128 cubic feet 4 by 4 by 8 feet equals a cord of wood!! nuff said
@@mikeanders7542 i can agree with you on that, i have measured out truck beds stack the wood as tight as possible then multiply till i get my 128 cubic feet! 4x4x8 just makes it easier to measure and you get familiar with the look.
Thank you for the teaching. I don’t know the measurements of a cord of wood. Thank you again.
24 ft x 4ft x 16inches equals the same
Spot on! Thanks. Many people getting ripped off. When I show up with 1/2 cord in an F350 they say they didn't want a full cord, only 1/2 cord. When they learn that it is an actual 1/2 cord they are happy but also very angry at their previous suppliers.
We just bought our 4 cord for the winter. 2nd year I paid. I always cut it myself but ive gotten lazy. Thanks for the video.
I grew up in a house heated by firewood in the 70"s & 80"s. My dad and I spent all year in NJ cutting wood for the winter. I was basically an all year job. But we also sold wood on the side. My dad always said a true cord was stacked 4x4x8, which equals 128 cf. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many cord of wood I cut and split growing up. Mostly with an axe and maul.
Hello Brad I just found your channel I found it very informative. I heat my house with wood. I’m almost 82 years old and I still drop trees buck and split them up I burn mainly oak,maple, hickory and locust. But the problem is as I have gotten this old it just takes a lot out of me. I really did enjoy your video and I am looking forward to watching all your videos
Well welcome to the channel. Glad to have you here. There are lots of great people in this community and we all try to help each other. I think it’s awesome that your still doing the work! It’s always nice to do a job that you can see what your efforts resulted in. I hope you enjoy the channel and again, thanks for coming along
Great video! Sound like a reputable company. Thanks for explaining what a true cord is. So many people have no idea. I’ve had sellers try to sell me a cord that was actually alot less than even a face cord. 4’x4’x16-18”
as a homeowner and a recent buyer of firewood, I found this video most informative.
Really good explanation Brad. A lot of people don’t have a clue about what a cord is. I can’t believe you need to have a permit to sell firewood. Just another revenue stream for the government, smh. I left upstate NY and moved south 42 years ago. I was glad to get away from a lot of that government control. Unfortunately I think it’s creeping towards NC.
Ty for taking the time to explain a cord and face cord, and using a truck to help me visualize the amount. You saved me from being that lady who mistakenly ordered too much wood!
A CORD WILL NOT FIT INTO A PICKUP NO MATTER HOW YOU STACK IT
I have been doing exactly what you’re doing and I have been doing it for most of my life and you are so right, explaining first
Super helpful information. Thank you for explaining.
I was surprised that there were different names for a cord of wood because I thought a cord of wood was a volume, which your video confirmed it is. Learning a face cord is a third of a cord is vital for accurate ordering. Thank you!
Great vid👍. Here in SW Missouri I deal with the same confusion. The most common term here for a 1/3 of a cord is a “rick”. Most people call and want to order wood by the truckload and then I have to clarify things. I have also noticed that the people who heat with wood and will buy a cord or more they know exactly what they want. It’s the customers who want a rick or 2 for a fire place or a backyard fire pit that aren’t sure. And several times I have showed up to deliver a rick or two and stack it the customers are surprised by how much extra wood is there, which after an explanation of volume means they were cheated in the past. Keep up the good work Brad😆
Great video. Takes me back to when I was a kid. My father ran a firewood business as a side hustle. It's how I earned money as a kid. We sold around 300 chord a year. Cut, split, and pile all summer. Then deliver all fall and winter. 600 chord of firewood piled in a field was quite a sight. That's right-600chord. 300 chord dried for a year and the other 300 set to dry for a year. Great memories.
Good video. There is a lot of confusion with people. I’ve sold firewood and I’ve bought it at times too. There are way too many sellers that either don’t know or don’t care what a full cord is. The next biggest topic of confusion caused by bad or unknowing sellers would be what exactly seasoned firewood is.
Great Video!!! We burn wood and have been for years in Virginia and I've learned alot from your video!
Well done, your explanation was on the money. I have been cutting and splitting wood since I was 16 helping my Dad and Uncles at our hunting cabin in NYS. Then I was cutting it to heat my family home, about 4 years ago I had my hip replaced & 62 years young now it's not as easy to get fire wood anymore. So I started ordering some fire wood, it's very hard to find someone who knows what a cord of firewood is.
Thanks!
Thanks for this video Brad. I almost didn't click on it because I know what a cord is, and I know what a face cord is. Of course, that was before I watched your video and found out I have been wrong for 20 years. I was sure that a face cord was 1/2 of a cord. So all these years I have been getting a cord delivered and thought the guys was being generous because after filling 2 face cord holders, I always had some extra. Ha Ha, joke was on me.
I am about to order firewood and have called around to get prices here in Northern New Jersey. You mention in your video that you like the chance to educate your customers and try not to embarrass them. I think I will have to make sure whoever I get the wood from is educated and will try not to embarrass them! You have a great style and I appreciate the content. Subscribed.
Thanks! I’m glad it helped and welcome to the channel. Hope you continue to enjoy and thanks for the comments!
Thank you! Very informative and well explained. This video should be required training for all new firewood sellers. Many people in my area try to claim a level truck bed as a full cord, and unfortunately also price it as that. Often it will even actually be a loosely thrown in, level truck bed, claimed as a full cord!
Many decades ago, I pretty much made a third of my living in Sanders County, MT harvesting and selling firewood, licensed with the county with the low income energy assistance program. I cut a lot of fir trees that were dead and standing dead beetle killed lodgepole pine. It was seasoned by the time late autumn came around. I named my price, got an order from the county office, made a delivery, had the customer sign a form that it was delivered and were happy, gave the form to the office and was paid within a week. Yes, I split it down to stove sizes. A lot of work, but I was my own boss and I was young. Those days are long gone.
Did much the same thing in Northeastern California, many years ago.
Left that failing state over 40 years ago.
I also always get the customer to understand what they are asking for. It really cuts down on miss understandings
One of the struggles I have with selling firewood is that I'm honest with my cord, and even give a bit extra. The problem is that I'm competing with people who will deliver what they call a "cord", but is maybe 25% less. They charge less then I could and customers see the lower price of a cord and think they're getting a better deal.
Thanks for all the info. My son is about to embark on a firewood business and has priced out all of the equipment and the pay out including maintenance, storage, security, etc. Your videos are priceless!! Hope to see more. Thanks again!!
Appreciate that and best of luck to your son!
Tell him to buy everything with cash!
Excellent info. There’s so much confusion and misinformation on this topic. I too have heard people say that a full cord can fit in a pickup truck. I always say, “my truck is an F350 with an 8 foot bed. I can’t fit a cord in my truck.”
Shout out from Northern Michigan. Your wood stacks are beautiful. Really looks great. 👍🤠
I learned early on (age 16 now 67) what a cord was. A lot of people in my area refer to 1/3 cord as a rick. Having hauled a rock I know it will fill a short box pick up. I wish more people would see this video. Great video by the way.
Thanks Allan. Appreciate it
Thanks for sharing this information. I am new to your channel, I just bought some wood and, now I know how much I got.
Welcome and thanks for commenting. Hope you continue to enjoy the content
Nice to meet you, Brad. I'm new to your channel and appreciate a honest person when it comes to firewood sales. My wife and I are both 67 and cut, split and stack our own firewood, a great team. We mostly get logs that I haul home on my 5x10' trailer, pulled behind my 2001 Grand Cherokee and some rounds from our local Fire Chief that's clearing a large area of his property that has a lot of dead Ash trees. Keeps us busy and in some sort of shape and beats paying those high utility bills. Again, great to meet you and discover a great channel.
Hello, and welcome to the channel. Glad you found it! Sounds like you and your wife work great together. Ash is awesome firewood and dries quickly. Its great exercise and mental therapy I think. Hope you to continue to enjoy and I wish you all the best.
Emerald ash borer I assume. That bug has just stated showing up here in SW Minnesota
Ya know there’s some things I wish I could ask my pops for, I sure am glad there’s channels out here that can help me with this. Thank you.
A face cord here in Tennessee is called a Rick or a third of a cord about 42-43 square feet
Yes. that is what is is in Southern Indiana- populated with Appalachia emigrants, of course. Alternative from what I can tell is “face cord”. Have no idea why people would refer to it as a cord.
Well done! Nothing like wood heat. Loved seeing all those neatly stacked rows. Cutting firewood is my planet fitness and forest management is my favorite hobby.
Thanks
Thanks for all the information. It's 11:13 PM CST
You're absolutely right about the title bringing in new subscribers. I just found this video, and though I already knew most of the information, I'm now a subscriber!
Thanks Ryan and welcome!
Been bucking/and splitting my own trees for firewood for decades and you’re correct, many firewood dealers are dishonest. They won’t even pack pack the wood tightly into a 4-4-8 stoat, thinking you won’t notice. Quite often they need to make a second trip to make up for the shortage. My experience was with a bunch of good old boys who had probably been screwing over ignorant customers for years. How many ways can you represent 4-4-8 dimensions? I had never heard of a face cord before. I only knew ricks and cords. Thank you for putting together a nice video to educate the masses. In my current world up in the mountains of Northern California, it would be a rare firewood dealer who would try to rip off his public.
Thanks for the explanation. I've been cutting stacking and burning firewood for almost 30 years and never really knew the exact definition of a cord. I don't buy it or sell it I just do it for myself but its nice to know. New subscriber here. Thanks 👍
Welcome and thanks for saying hello!
@FirewoodattheFurnace yes sir I give you credit it's very hard work 💪
Nice...Bless Him and His family, Jesus...And bless his operation....Hallelujah
Always good to get a good refresher of what a "cord" is. Thanks Brad.
I'm new here, first video. Building a woodshed from pallets, and came here for guidance on what size to build. Thanks for helping.
Why do you need to announce that you're a rainbow cult member? What's up with that desire?
@@SimonHergottI don’t want to engage with homophobes. Living a proud and transparent life is the best way I know of to filter out the haters.
Great discussion video and appreciated your insight and knowledge on these topics! And thanks for sharing that recent firewood costumers request, that goes along way as you noted and I’ve also heard this from other firewood channels that I have seen about connecting with the client prior and making sure both parties have the discussions / understanding prior to showing up on delivery day! Goes a long way with customer service and I know just from watching your channel over the past few weeks that this is one of your strong points for sure with your business/ hobby :). Appreciate that chat Brad! Thanks again! Cheers! Andrew from NB :)
Thanks for this video. I'm a third year homesteader and still learning. Firewood is life for us in the winter.
Great that there are people like you (that know and tell the truth about what a full Cord of wood is) ..keep up the good work !!!
I appreciate that!
New here to your channel and subscribed. Greetings from an old Wood Tick in North Michigan. I been cutting, splitting, stacking, burning my entire 67 years. I only cut for myself at 18" to 22". I have seen folks happy with receiving face chords as skinny as 8". I hope folks listen to what you are saying.
Thanks for the sub! Welcome and I hope you continue to enjoy!
Great job Brad, in explaining a measured cord. 👍👍 There are a lot of people selling firewood on FB market place listing the amounts wrong! This should help many people!
I hope so. Thanks for watching
We go by ricks here in Middle Tennessee, but I get all the time bring me a cord. First think I do is send them a pic of Rick rack that’s full. Then I ask you want 3 times this amount and 9/10 they say no that’s what I want right there which is a rick lol. People are appreciative of you explaining. I also don’t want to show up with a cord and they don’t have room for it, because they didn’t know what an actual cord was. Very informative video too.
Excellent subject, as I figured it depends on WHO you talk to : ) ...... VERY EXCELLENT info and VERY HELPFUL ! Helps in seeing WHO the rip offs are!
Well done again Brad a great show about firewood sizes it is confusing to the general publiv
Very informative TY, the only thing i wish you could have added would be what an average "range" of cost 1/3, 1/2, 1 full cord would be reasonable. I know there's a lot of variables that go into that but just a reasonable price. New to it all, thanks again.
Good to see it is a standard everywhere.
I, too, have been harvesting and burning firewood for 35 years. And selling it to the members of the local gun club that drive past my property to get into the club. It was always known what the dimensions were for the varied terms. But nowadays, trucks don't normally come with 8' beds, and sideboards would be needed with the 8' beds. I simply built a 8' ×4' ×4' with a slanted roof and 2 dividing walls. They took what they wanted and paid me when they saw me, as I hand split wood in the alley next to the R.R. CROSSING entering the gun club. Typical homeowners nowadays aren't aware of these important factors, so thanks for your detailed information!
good job on explaining the difference lengths, in the suburbs of Levias Ky most suppliers have 12 16 and 24 in. the price for face cord is the same, a lot more labor in a 12 in verses 24 in. cords.
6 cords going out will give u alot of free space for more maple ,ash, or cherry which dries very fast if u split it small
Thank you for the EXCELLENT presentation on what a cord of wood is. I have always thought it was a single row. Also size was confusing. This is my first year cutting wood and I just realized too that I need seasoned wood. Never burned wood before, but we are replacing an old stove, which was dangerous, by design, and having the chimney lined with steel. I'm a chick, age 68 and even looking at a wood splitter, Ariens 27 ton, 8 horse. Thanks for clarity and I subscribed. I am going to buy my seasoned wood from a guy everyone around here thinks is expensive, but I'll be able to determine that he knows what the heck he is doing and in the end, I will likely save my body and my house, but getting dryer, proper wood,
That has got to be the newest Woodyard I have ever seen… I haul all of my own wood and every time I go and pick up my firewood for the year, regardless of who I get it from I am always shocked at how big of a mess their yard is… I’m impressed
Very well explained for all those who have issues with some sellers when buying firewood by the CORD!!
Not everyone I have crossed paths with speaks the same math for a true cord!!!!
I saved this for future use!!
No more arguments with sellers!
This is my first year getting an inventory together to season and hopefully start selling next year. Can't thank you enough for the video! You're on a roll. I've already used your video to make racks with pallets. Can get twice as much wood stacked for about 1/4 of the price (when comparing it to the metal racks I've bought on Amazon). I'm also going to build a bundle making frame soon from your other video I've taken notes on. You help out your viewers more than you know! Btw, congrats on the 5k subscribers! 🙂
Thanks so much. That’s what I love about this community. Helping people out is what I strive to do. Thanks for watching and letting me know. This keeps me going!
I just found your channel and I am impressed with your knowledge of what a common mistake customer's make, I'm doing my research on the firewood business and I am hoping to get started on my own journey very soon.
Thanks James and best of luck to you!
great information new into the fire wood business i am a owner of UPPER END landscape martha's vineyard i climb for alot of my jobs and do full removals ash, oak , etc thank you for showing me proper ways to sell my wood i am saving to buck up!!!!
e
great explanation.........I was going to order a full cord for 500 bucks but seeing the amount in a third of a cord made me change my mind
well . Iike this fella and this is a great video . i wood like add to the pick up truck deal ..... 8x5x3.2= 128.so if you sell firewood in a full size pick up build some sides and a head rack and stack it 3 ft high and mound it up being higher in the center which will give you you 3.2 in the equation . firewood and power saws saved me from myself. good job on this video
Wow buddy, so nice to see you here. I’ve learned so much from you not just about firewood but about living life. Thanks for commenting and hope you all had a great holiday!
New here just trying to educate myself on this industry so this helps a lot. Those walls of firewood are epic !
Thanks and welcome. Lots of great info in this community. Let me know if I can help
I can honestly say, I learned a lot. Thanks for the info
Back in the day a cord of rounds was 8' x 4' x 4'. Split wood measures more than a round cord. So in Maryland the buyer gets more wood. Also, the measurement is different for a thrown cord or a stacked cord.
great video.i like how clean the wood yard is kept
Thank you
Brad your true on your words . Back in my wood days we delivered 3 full cords in a tandem dump truck patch and round off to it. We cut into 2 lenght 12” for the cook house stove and 16” for heating stove . Your very true about a pick - up take a cord off wood . It’s can be done went dry , BUT BUT you got to put high sideboard on the pick - up . My wet yellow birch a full cord might take it 1 ton or 3500 . Good luck on your axle weight on the license road . Here there highway inspection will be on to you for weight on your truck from 3500 and up , plus weight license on your trailer . Here we pay for weight to haul onto your axle . We call it’s axle weight , so went we haul max axle weight we paid for it’s to haul . A lot put minus weight on trailer about its less money , but if the highway inspection weight your load it’s will cost you $$$ in weight over your permit . Back in the wood a big timber use to take 1 1/4 tons pick back out to the landing .it’s a load with no B s..t down off a mtns . Take cord and 1/4 at 8’x 4” long put a cable around the centre, pull it’s tight up behind the jack and drive it’s straight down a mtns . See if your nerve as steel in the mtns off Newfoundland ca. Brad your right A CORD in USA and CANADA are the SAME . 8’ long , 4 ‘ height and 4’ wide . How you want to cut its up , you can pick a # 12 “ , 16” , 24 “ and so on . Brad great video, if your buddy take 10 full cords , you will make a hole into the wood yard for sure . Be careful and god bless to you and the family .
Just started our 17th winter using an outdoor wood boiler to heat our home. I mostly cut, haul, split, and stack my own firewood. I’m 61 now. As u know firewood is work. I’m considering buying firewood in the future. What do u sell a load with ur 7 x14 dump trailer loosely stacked? I live in Minnesota. There’s a guy here that sells wood. He gets about $200 for that amount. Mostly ash.
A standard size pickup bed, slightly mounded is appx a face cord. If you really mound it, you can fit a half a cord. I like to pick up my own wood, and that's what I get when I throw a measured face cord in there. (I don't have anywhere for a vendor to dump off a load here, and rather than waste his time- and clog up the road- while we transfer the wood to MY truck, or haul it out back 1 cart at a time, it's just easier to go get it)
I believe "Rick" is another term for face cord. More common in the South and parts of the midwest.
Sometimes the confusion goes both ways. I ordered a face cord of mixed premium hardwood for grilling from a guy advertising green/fresh cut firewood, with a list of available species. Cherry, hickory, and sugar maple is what I asked for. He turned out to be a tree service with a nice side gig. He shows up to my house with a dump truck! One of those small ones they use to haul mulch and stuff. By the time we emptied it out, my pickup was piled 3-4 feet above the roof, and squatting hard, lol. He said that's a face cord- and charged me as such. I ended up filling TWO 1 facecord woodhaven racks! (one of which I had to order because of this, lol) So, sometimes it works out. And yes, I DO keep a sharp eye out for his ad on marketplace, lol. ( it was seriously nice quality wood- I'd gladly buy again even if I knew I would get a measured face.)
This was very educational, because I didnot know what what a full cord was.
New subscriber today to your channel. Great information keep up the good work. Fixing to go back into your archives and watch the rest of the videos. Be safe my friend.
Welcome aboard!
I’ve been cutting and stacking firewood since I was 12 yr old which is about 50years. I’ve on occasion purchased firewood and have made it absolutely clear that I wanted a full cord 4’x4’x8’, 128 cubic foot and had them show up with pickup with 2’ side boards lose stack and mounded and advised them that what the brought me was not a full cord, I paid for a full cord and I expected a full cord and to prove it I stacked it with their help and sure as shit it was barely 2/3 of a cord so it it proves that there are those who are taking advantage of most people and there are those selling firewood who don’t understand what a full cord is either.
Thank you! Now I know what im getting myself into.
Awesome video ! Very true there is so many people that really have no idea what a cord is, I don't deliver much people just come pick it up, and they think they can put a cord on a half ton truck, until I tell them they probably won't get it all on in 2 trips, you really have to do just as you did so they understand, Great Job !
spot on! a tigyht stack full cord is 128 cubic ft minus rot and air space which is 90 cubic ft solid wood, a loose tossed cord is 180 cubic ft. Thanks
Thank you for information about the difference in all the cords of wood, I knew some but not all those different names. Great video!!
Thank you
After 3 seasons heating almost exclusively with wood, this has been the clearest explanation of measurement - both wood and trailer that I’ve found. Thank you! Now which wood is the best to burn? And how much control would those selling firewood typically have over the kind of wood they sell?
Many people think Oak is the only firewood. It’s not… it has good heat value but takes the longest to dry. Locust is even better but also takes 1-2 years to dry. Maple, Cherry, Ash, are all great choices as well. Best to burn would depend on what your using it for. Primary heat for your home? You want BTU’s, supplemental heat for your home or ambience then BTU’s and/or a nice flame may be important. Outside camp fires, you want a nice bright flame. Oak and locust for example burn hot but not a very bright flame. Others burn nearly as hot and have a nicer flame. Hope this helps and thanks for watching
@@FirewoodattheFurnace Hickory has high BTU output compared to others. It does leave a little more ash but none the less is good for heat. Plus, all of the scrap pieces you can save for smoking. Same with Cherry and Apple if you prefer. You can add the smaller branches to sell by cutting them into chips for smoking or for arts and crafts or cutting boards if you have the time. Nothing is wasted. 😉
Very helpful video I appreciate his anesty
Thanks for the video. I often heard the term 'cord of wood' and did ask once. The explanation I received was so many feet of 4" x 2" (Aussie talk; not 2 x 4 for you Yanks); I could never visualize that. Your explanation 8' x 4' x4' finally painted the picture for me - thanks again.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the full explanation. I just recently had an inground firepit installed so I needed to make sure I understood the measurements of how much wood I needed to buy. Maybe one small detail you can add to future videos for the math impaired. You can tell approximately how many pieces of wood to be expected in a cord or face cord. Overall, I really enjoyed the video.
I've had some confusion in my deliveries also. People order a cord, meaning 1/3 cord of a wood. Have a Safe Day
How much wood could a dump trailer dump if a dump trailer could dump wood?? Answer: 1.5 cord (loosely piled). Great video!! Very informative. Straightened me out that's for sure.
Good, informative vid. Just moved to NH. Now I just gotta
a reliable seller.
Need to get busy cutting more wood so you can take care of all the past and new sales coming in. Good luck and have a great day be safe.
Thanks buddy you too
Thank you! Great video!
Great video, very informative on the explanation of a true cord. Just showed a bunch of guys at work and were all very impressed.
Thanks buddy
Thank you for the information. I'm new and am just starting to learn about how much wood helps to keep our home warm and how much we need to heat our home in the winter to offset the cost of gas.
Hello and welcome. Glad it was helpful!
Nice Explanation, well Constructed, nicely Explained, A Cord of Wood Estimate around 220 660 pieces of wood,
Thank you
I like your clear communication with your customers, God bless you and your family.😀
Thank you!
Robbie from BC Canada… Great video, very clear and I learnt a lot…. Cheers and stay safe my good man… 😊
I've noticed in our area people selling "facecords" of wood which measure 4' x 8' x 12", which is 75% of a facecord. I've been sharing that information on my channel. A facecord of wood stacked loosely required approximately 60 cubic feet of space.
Very informative Thank You, I've been getting ripped for years.
Hey Brad. Thank you. Very informative,and I like your presentation; direct and straight to the point. I myself am a city boy don’t know anything about wood except how to start a fire in a fireplace. So thank you sir. I’m merely looking to buy firewood for a fireplace for romantic evenings during the winter. That b ing said I’m thinking I’ll probably just need a third of a cord. Do they sell smaller quantities or would that even be worth it since this is Christmas and we’re looking at January and February to go. Again, I really appreciate the video and your information but especially the way you presented it. Thank you Sir.
Great job Brad with the clarity and explanation.
Thanks Mark
Good video. I burn wood full time...SW Nova Scotia. There's a few swindlers around, but most are honest
New subscriber here. I have been searching for a channel like this for some time. Thank you.
Awesome. Welcome and thanks for being here!
This is a good clear tutorial. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful
I’m new on you channel. Very informative. I use to cut and split my own wood. It wasn’t until health issues that I had to start buying it. I’m surprised at how many sellers don’t have a clue. I ordered 3 cords from one guy. His first delivery he said was three cords. I stacked and measured and it wasn’t quite 2 cords. It took him three trips before he got it right. I can’t imagine how many people he has ripped off. Where in Maryland are you?
Hello Rob and welcome to the channel. Glad to have you along. I am in the north eastern corner of Maryland. Our county borders both Pennsylvania and Delaware. Hope you enjoy the channel
@@FirewoodattheFurnace too far to buy wood from you. Keep up the great videos. Will be checking all of yours
Very informative thanks for spelling it out 😊
Good to see this. However, I live in the UK. We don't have measurements like that here. A cord of firewood there is like a pint of beer here. Glass full, if not it is not a full pint. Here firewood is by the dump trailer or the builders bag. £70 for a builders bag of ash. In all honesty, 2 builders bags don't evaluate to even a full face cord. I try to cut and split my own firewood, but when I need to buy, I look at USA and realize how much more you get there for your money. What do you charge for a full cord? I have a friend who has a wood burner who simply buys wood from the supermarket. He has gas central heating in the house also. He likes to keep the wood fire going through winter because he likes the heat better than from the radiators. Just burning 3-4 hours every evening. He told me he has spent £2000 on kiln dried firewood this year! Plus kindling! I was shocked. A small amount of searching, chainsaw bucking and splitting only takes a few days a year for me, and sometimes I buy a bit, like £200 for 2 or 3 builders bags to help fill my woodstore, but spending so much on a small amount of firewood seems unproductive.
Best vidio on info for buying wood
Great video Brad! I had an idea but definitely learned something today! Watch for the big yellow trucks & the air horn as I ride by! Lol I try to say hi when I see ya out there working!
Lol 👋🏻
Well i am a newbie and i learned a lot thank you for taking the time to explain things your yard is impressive very tidy and well organised.
Thanks so much and I’m glad it was helpful to you!