The Biggest Misconceptions in Naruto
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2024
- In today's video, ill be going over some of the most common misconceptions in the Naruto community & debunking them to the best of my ability. Feel free to check out the videos mentioned above:
• The Akatsuki Retcon
• The Perfect Jinchuriki... - Розваги
Naruto should've gone on HIATUS after the Pain arc to give Kishimoto more time to cook the War arc and the prelude to it with Gokage Summit. Taking a break when Naruto gets hailed a hero and we find out that Naruto got his name from one of Jiraiya's novels is a nice temporary stopping point, but there's too much unresolved stuff if the series just ends st Pain.
now THAT'S a good take. They definitely overworked my mans, had him in the Mangaka sweatshop
Tbh he was lost his real love really outta part 1
Another one that really grinds my gears is that people think “Sharingan > Byakugan” is a retcon and that the Byakugan was originally set up to be the superior eye. I think people dorget that Kakashi says “in perceptive abilities alone, it outclasses the sharingan” which the manga never contradicts. However, we are showing that 2T Sasuke is supposed to be on a comparable or greater level to Neji… the peak of the Hyuga. Then immediately after that, Itachi shows up to confirm what a mastered Sharingan can do and it blows the Byakugan out of the water. Idk why people seem to think that Neji would have a stronger dojutsu than the Deuteragonist, that would be a really odd writing choice lol.
Someone with a brain I zee
I guess the byakugan are the better EYES but is the vision part even still part of the sharingan after deidara? Like that was the last time anything visual mattered (unless you want to pedantic and remind me that Itachi saw Sasuke was out of chakra) and tbh Neji with lightning style would probably have finessed Deidara worse being able to see the same things just 360 degrees around him. But as soon as the MS was on the table Byakugan was irrelevant. Still in terms of pure vision it probably beats evrn the EMS as Madara stated that only few MS users like him and Sasuke get a vision boost from it.
@@Metalhammer1993
Yes. Sasuke uses it to hit A with a Chidori while dodging his punch. Madara is shown using it when he's folding the Ninja Alliance. If we're talking about the Eye of Hypnosis aspect, Sasuke and Itachi have a Genjutsu battle before the fight actually starts. And there's probably other small moments.
I think Neji, and the Hyuga in general, get overhyped quite a bit. I've even seen some ppl on reddit try to argue for Shippuden Neji vs Shippuden Sasuke 😂
@@JuubiTazi feel like they just got done dirty in the writing. Neji was the strongest. Naruto was the only person who could really beat him in part 1. Then in shippunen , almost every character but naruto and sasuke got left to die when it comes to power scaling. I feel like theoretical fights should be more based on abilities characters have
And Minato didn’t even use base FTG to damage Obito he used FTG level 2 which is something tobirama can’t do
You missed one
Neji isn't right
Obito slams tobirama
Another great video, very interesting :D I need more
love your videos man :)
Great work, I have my own reservations (of course...) but I'm so impressed by your research 🙂
14:16 he does outscales madara tho. the first big fight they had with madara perfect susano the second time was close mostly due to madara eyes getting stronger and training and actually going for the kill while hashirama wasn't doing anything for a while and wasn't trying to go for the kill most of the fight. And that got proved when they fought as edo tensi
The writers gave madara a hell of a boost
He out scales but not vastly
@@appleboss9742 yeah you right
@@appleboss9742 keep pumping content though
8:20 the way you worded this sentence already debunks the entire notion of Tobirama having a shot at tagging Obito. He literally just can't do it lol
forreal bruh, some Tobirama Stans overhype him to a crazy extent
W name frl
4 tailed Naruto would obliterate cm2 Sasuke with mid-low dif. Without the mangekyou amps, Sasuke can't do much against him.
Hebi sasuke killed deidara…
I don't want to sound like I'm wanking Sasuke but based on what we saw from him before ms he's a s class shinobi, he gave a sick itachi a good fight but when he fought bee it was like a 4 year old trying to fight a grown man, but bee fodderizes most akatsuki anyway except for a few members, and I do agree that Sasuke will be a pile of ash against v2 cloak naruto but to say he's fodder is a major downplay from what we've seen
@@johnzahm193 yeah I think you're correct. He still achieves an impressive feat before mangekyou and had to give his all to 'beat' deidara and itachi.
0-2 Tail V1 with help from Fresh Kamui Kakashi and eventually Team Guy couldn't take out Deidara with 1 to no arms.
Sasuke 4D Chess'd the man at his full power into offing himself.
Also the Nine Tails wouldn't even come out, as Sasuke demonstrated the ability to enter the Nine Tails shrine and suppress his power.
@@justaguylyingontheroad he didn't beat itachi and he wasn't going for the kill against deidara, he may have pressed itachi but itachi wasn't going all out, not once have we ever seen him go all out in any fight
On Hashirama vs Madara and Kurama, it's also stated that Hashirama's wife Mito had to come seal Kurama into herself to remove it completely from the fight, and Hashirama stated it's power was too great.
The Kinkaku Unit wasn't featless, they killed Tobirama. He was likely low on chakra at the time anyway.
they're still too featless to be considered "Akatsuki" level, plus their one feat is offscreen so it's hard to judge them off of it
@@JuubiTaz
It's just as headcanon to say they definitively weren't at the level of Akatsuki members. They don't have anti feats. For all you know, they performed a bunch of crazy feats that led to their reputation for being highly skilled in the eyes of Tobirama.
@@ActuallyAlask this is a world where everyone that's Akatsuki level is most likely renown in some way. Kabuto didn't bother to revive the rest of the Kinkaku unit, even tho he revived some mediocre ninja, so that tells me that they weren't really that impressive.
Kinkaku & Ginkaku, sure they're S-ranked Akatsuki level all that, but not EVERYONE in the Kinkaku Unit was Akatsuki level, that's just overboard
@@JuubiTaz
That presupposes that Kabuto could find their DNA. It also presupposes that they're dead in the first place. Technically they could be still alive, but just retired. It's also possible that they all used pills to amp their strength, which wouldn't carry over to their edo forms since they wouldn't have those pills.
And... how do you know they weren't renowned?? You have no basis for that. Again it's headcanon. It's a fictional story, kishimoto could make them as strong as he wants no matter how "overboard" it is.
@@ActuallyAlask what Im saying is that the average ninja was NOT Akatsuki level, so you do need feats better than being involved in an offscreen battle with tobirama. It's head canon to assume that they're that strong without any premise. Like I said before, sure, Ginkaku & Kinkaku are Akatsuki level or beyond, but to say that every single member of the 20 Kinkaku Force members is Akatsuki level is a baseless assumption. The Akatsuki weren't just "highly skilled" ninja, they were all Kage level ninja recruited specifically with the idea of battling Biju.
One of the biggest misconceptions in Naruto is that Itachi is a good guy.
He still killed his entire clan and he's severely damaged Sasuke on the on a mental and psychological level he is the whole reason why Sasuke went down the path that he did.
That feeling you got when Obito explained to Sasuke what happened to his clan....was deception.
Plus itachi and Kisame Feared jiraiya and fled the scene. That is a dead giveaway that jiraiya was stronger if they could have defeated him there they would have.... No hate though ✌️✝️
idk you can't just ignore the political pressure being enforced on Itachi by Danzo, Itachi was also a kid at the time. It's not to say that Itachi was "good", he himself admitted his flaws when he was revived, but he did usually try to follow the utilitarian approach to "peace". I always considered him a morally grey character. But considering how popular he is, the Itachi wanks just inevitable
@@JuubiTaz I see what you mean bro ✊ no hate I hope everything is going well God bless you.. life is crazy stay strong ✌️❤️🔥
I really got the impression that yeah the clans didn'there
I always thought it was funny how they basically feed Kakuzu to Naruto
they did bro too dirty lmao
This is too many win cons for CM Sasuke. Suppress Kurama, Kirin, dodge attacks before Naruto collapses due to acid chakra.
I'm just saying that the 4 tails hits a lot harder than Sasuke.
remember that Yamato was tasked to take care of Naruto cuz he can use Woodstyle & suppress the V2 cloak, so if he wasn't there the nine tails would've been unstoppable.
Without the wood style, I cant see how Sasuke could suppress it. Ofc if Sasuke suppresses it & doesn't let Naruto go V2 cloak then its a different story.
Is it a misconception that Itachi doesn’t have a huge chakra pool? I always thought it was hindered by his disease but without that problem he wouldn’t have as much of an issue using his techniques.
I think without the disease he'd have a decent sized chakra pool, but still nowhere near characters like Hashirama, Madara, Naruto & Nagato
Base Jiraiya couldn't take Itachi and Kisame is obvious but I feel like sage mode with toads wins. Itatchi's biggest strength , genjutsu, is rendered useless and Kisame doesn't have an answer for Jiraiyas own toad genjutsu. From there if Itachi busts out susano it's just a matter of Jiraiya stalling for time until Itachi's notoriously low stamina/ "chakra disease" makes his susano expire. As long as he dodges the Sword of Totsuka Jiraiya wins. I think Kishimoto knew Itachi was going to be working for the leaf all along , I think sage mode is the retcon. I also think there's hints that point at Jiraiya knew the truth of Itatchi and they were both in on breaking that fight off
1.tobirama managed to do flying rajin vs 10 tailed obito aka sage of six paths.obito got bested twice by same jutsu flying raijin...,...but it still happened
2.The secret being that the peins were linked to each other,the healing pein could bring others back to life .Thats how naruto managed to win because of intel
3.Madara was always glazing hashirama beceause he always lost whenever they fought .
yes, because Obito can't do much when tobirama can literally teleport instantly to him and he can't phase through his attacks with the Juubi inside him. If you look at the panels, Obito does recognize when tobirama teleports to him; however, since he cant use the ability he's been using for 18 years, he's nerfed in his defense. I'm sure if he could use the right eye's ability, tobirama wouldn't have been able to touch him
@@JuubiTaztobirama caught Obito off guard tobirama even admits if they fight Obito fairly/while he’s on guard they would get destroyed.
14:41 I dont understand the counter-point about madara not being outscaled despite his use of Kurama. You said with Madara's susanoo cloaked Ninetails, Hashirama only had one worthwhile jutsu to use. So if Madara did not show up with Kurama, wouldn't that mean Hashirama could effectively attack with all his other jutsus which means that Madara would be heavily disadvantaged compared to if he uses the ninetails.
What I meant was that the 1000 armed Buddha is kind of an outlier in Hashirama's arsenal, and without it they're both equal basically. It also doesn't seem like a jutsu that Hashirama could use freely, since if he could he would've summoned it when revived
One misconception I hate is that people actually think that itachi could beat obito. I think Swagkage already made a few statements about this tho
I think it's moreso that if Itachi knew the ins & outs of Kamui, he'd pull something off like Konan, so I dont think it was about a direct confrontation
Kakuzu did not lose the earth heart, he let the lightning heart die in its place.
No, the lightning heart took its place after it was taken out. Kakuzu died and then the lightning heart revived him & became his main heart
@@JuubiTaz The lightning mask shattered which is usually used to communicate the heart within has died.
About the last one: I think naruto the ''anime'' should have taken a hiatus and the pain arc finally was a perfect stopping point for the anime so the manga could advance I've always seen the story as 3 structures. The classic naruto until the fight in valley of the end & naruto going to train with jiraiya as act 1. Act 2 starts with shippuden until pain's defeat & sasuke getting the ms. Act 3 is the 5 kage summit until naruto & sasuke's final battle & naruto becoming the hokage.
I agree, I think a hiatus could've done the anime justice & wouldnt have put so much strain on Kishimoto. I think the demand was so high after the Pain arc that Shonen Jump didn't want to stop
I really don't care about saskatoon.Enough to say he was his best friend
oh Canada
Wait. The Pad and Filler Brothers were canon characters?
apparently ..
the key word your using for Jirayia is "base form" in sage mode Itachi nor kisame have much to counter him Jirayia clearly has better hand to hand in sage mode and his justu variety increases as well from making a huge rasengan to making a river of boiling oil and don't forget his summons honestly saying Kisame could solo Jirayia feels like a huge insult to Jirayia and I don't know why people keep bring up orochimaru like he could beat sage mode Jirayia people keep trying to either use their title or that one brief fight the three had to show how powerful they are when they were all crippled in that fight. By your logic Itachi and Kisame could off pain no problem and while Pain did kill Jirayia remember before the finishing blow Jirayia had finished killing off three of pain's body and took no damage either if Nagato had used all six path at the same time Ma and Pa would have caught them in the genjustu and Jiraiya would have just killed them all off it was smart of Nagato to hold three of his body's back
Yeah.. Sage Jiraiya wouldn't be able to solo Itachi and Kisame either
naruto fans are inflicted with the curse of being extreme fanboying, I have never seen any community have it this bad they are so delusional it makes me sick, they just refuse to use logic and facts, one of the big reasons I like obito is because he is underrated the opposite of itachi at the start itachi was my number fav but then the community ruined it, now itachi and shisui are my least liked uchihas, their fans so delusional its not cool to like the same thing as them.
I personally try to separate the fanbase & the character, but you're right, the Naruto community does suffer from extreme fanboying. I still find it wild that Shisui won 4th at the Narutop99 poll, that & Sakumo being 7th
@@JuubiTaz I still cant blv kishi retconed the Uchiha massacre and some other stuff because itachi was popular, like that was the moment i had enough, it felt so dirty and cheap to like him, because he was already my fav. people call him perfect when he just is not, he regrets lots of actions after he is grown up and understands what did he do, and only fully learned after his death, to not take on everything only by yourself, thats what he tells naruto and sasuke, he was already so cool yet kishi pulls such shit to make him more appealing by making obito only killing the women and children thats just so dumbb because he could have hired anyone to do what obito did and kill them afterword or just do that himself as well.
@@headcrap6152 yeah I dont think it was fully retconned, there are some hints about the clan's coup d'état in part 1. I was gonna tackle that in a future vid
8:35 That's talking about body flicker, not FTG.
yeah you're right, but what I was trying to imply is that Minato was considered to be more skilled with FTG & that he further advanced it, kinda like what Orochimaru did with Edo-tensei
Nah tobirama would get obito. Obito is weaker than people think .He appears strong because of his defense .But the moment he attacks he is weak. KCM naruto couldnt touch him and neither could obito touch naruto.kakashi or guy .He was even had by konan blowing his mask and hand,anbu guy his arm,itachis amaterasu his mask.This is why he never won any major fight ,because he is really good at draw.
its not like tobirama's known for getting the w, he legit loses every single battle except the one against Izuna. Plus, not one of these guys have managed to bypass the Kamui intangibility.
He survived the Amaterasu, and he intentionally let himself be touched by Torune. Obito's always holding back too.
So no, based on feats Tobirama would NOT be able to "get" him.
@@JuubiTaz tobirama only lost to madara who at that stage was stronger than hashirama, having the rinnegan . We dont even know how strong kinkaku unit was .Unlike what he said highly skilled may mean anywhere from jounin to kage level .But since kakuzu was a part of it and wasnt even standing out says that its more likely there were multiple S class. And obito doesnt 'hold back' allways he just flexes too much and his defense makes it seem so .Else why would he drag on a fight when he can just capture naruto and be done with it. He didnot intentionally let himself get hit by amaterasu ,you can see he was was clearly shocked .No mention anywhere that he let himself get hit .Plus itachi certifies obito cant dodge amaterasu ,since itachi wouldnt do something so meaningless if he could
@@shairurafif1922 just because Kakuzu met Ginkaku before doesn't mean he was part of the Ginkaku unit, Plus Tobirama lost once to Gin & Kin, and once to the Ginkaku unit where he kicked the bucket & Died.
Obito was casually fighting the Kyuubi's perfect Jinchūriki, so by that logic, KCM2 Naruto ~ WM Obito >> Gin & Kin >>>>> Tobirama.
Also it is possible that obito let himself get hit, just to fck with Sasuke. For example, the Raikage is fast enough to dodge Amaterasu, yet Obito dodges him point blank.
I think you're really overhyping Tobirama & downplaying Obito and I think the narrative makes its crystal clear that Obito is a higher tier than tobirama.
@@JuubiTaztobiramas best feats are off guard feats bro is fodder
1 Obito was casually slamming them
2 Konan had massive perp and Obito held back the entire fight
Minato didn’t bypass kamui obito turned it off so he could touch minato and put him in the kamui dimension
thats what I meant, I shouldve clarified.
Really?I would take chicken marrow choji hinata hinata even keeper over sausage and soccer bernardo's friends any day
Tobirama is on par with Minato's FTG. Guilding thunder is where he falls short. If you look at the transportation and body flicker are mistaken all over the place in the manga. So your wrong on his talking about FTG but his body flicker was better.
He was clearly talking about FTG
@@john_negs7720 not when it comes to FTG tobirama and Minato are equal. The guiding thunder is where minato is more skilled in that way. Loko explains this in detail.
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So in my opinion when a hokage references highly skilled ninja it would be S rank because tokubetsu jonin are not highly skilled at all. 20 Jonīn would not be enough to take on tobirama or any hokage. So the S rank ninja class is on par with hokage level opponents.
Tobirama refers to them as 'highly skilled due to their tracking abilities, so I think that you can't make any assumption about their combat abilities from this statement, definitely not enough to confidently claim that all 20 of them were S-ranked. As for taking down tobirama, I think it was mostly Gin&Kin that were doing the heavy lifting (they've defeated him before), and the rest of the Ginkaku Unit was just there as backup
@@JuubiTaz so if you look at the war ark they though that tobirama brought them back so we know it wasn't them. And not making any assumptions as we know that 20 Jonīn would not be enough to kill a hokage level opponent. Kin and gin were S rank scaling.
@@joshfarrow9707 depends,not all kage are the same strength,hidan is said to be an s rank shinobi,and in practice we see he's barely low kage,he is nowhere near any of the kage we know excepting maybe raasa
@@JuubiTazhe says judging from their tracking ability, they’re highly skilled. He didn’t say they’re highly skilled only in tracking, just highly skilled in general.
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 yes but you can't say "judging from their tracking skills, they're highly skilled, S-ranked Akatsuki level ninja"
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Nah dawg,you wrong with the jiraya one. 1 on 1,jiraya claps itachi