Konan is such an interesting case considering the fact that both Tobi and Zetsu mentioned in the akatsuki novel that she will be a problem but not entirely as long as Nagato is on their side. They said as long as Nagato is loyal, she wouldn’t try anything. And the way Konan was depicted, she has full trust on Pain saying stuff like he has never been defeated and words of warning are useless to them. That’s why it baffles me that people are saying she’s been planning that ocean bomb for a decade when she never once thought of Nagato dying or losing. Tobi also mentioned in their fight that she was way more reasonable and rational than Nagato “i can see Nagato being persuade by the thought of true peace, but you Konan?” But yeah, I’ll say that she’s more loyal to her friends than the goal, hence she trust Naruto.
Konan was definitely more loyal to her friends than those goals, but she could've been developing that "ocean bomb for a decade" because she had to deal with Tobi & she knew Nagato couldn't
Oh this! This is wonderful! I really like stuff like this, it feels nice to have a deeper dive into characters and their dynamics beyond who can beat who. It enriches the story so much, makes the characters feel more real and it (atleast for me) makes me feel more connected to the universe of the show and story)
I feel like Hidan and Kakazu both did like each other, they’re just so violent that they didn’t express it well. Kakazu did grab Hidan’s headband when there was no reason to and they still worked together well when Kakazu didn’t for the past partners
That's a good way of putting it tbh, Hidan seemed concerned when Shikamaru was controlling his body & tried to attack Kakuzu, and Kakuzu told Kakashi that they underestimated Hidan which is kind of a complement/acknowledgement
@@JuubiTaz for bloodthirsty mercenaries, definitely. Didn’t Hidan only join the organization to get to know Kakazu too? Probably seeking the only friendship that would be possible for an immortal
Obito/Tobi personality act was probably put on for the sake of Deidara. Deidara hates the Uchiha ever since meeting Itachi and he also appears to have a mild inferiority complex. Could you imagine how Deidara would act if he found out his new partner was an Uchiha AND the true leader/director?! His performance and willingness as an Akatsuki would plummet. Obito acting like a fool satisfies Deidara's need to feel senior/superior & deflects any serious questions Deidara might have for him like his origin or secrets of his mangekyou space-time ninjutsu. After Deidara died there was no reason for Obito to continue the charade
Awwman, now I want to see a video on the hypothetical "Akatsuki civil war" how it would take place and who would ultimately win, but I'm also putting my money on the Uchiha duo, fish boy, and plant boy team though, just more OP hax on their side, more experience and brain power. the rinnegan though, the rinnegan would be a real bother
there is an interesting part about Pain's relationship with Itachi and Sasuke. In the last scene of Chapter 363, when Tobi arrives at Ame to meet with Pain and Konan, pain immediately asks about Sasuke. i believe that Pain was worried about being replaced by Sasuke. Tobi a few panels later references how Itachi "doesn't have much longer", and in the next scene (start of Chapter 364) Itachi is standing in the rain, which Pain is able to use his rainmaker jutsu, as a way to confirm if itachi's illness was real and/or progressing. Also Itachi standing in the rain could have been a way to signal something to Pain but we ultimately don't know enough about their relationship as a whole. This theory also may debunk Itachi standing in the rain to progress his illness depending on how you interpret the scene but I still believe he tried to make himself sick while already having an immunity condition. That's my take.
I second that belief of yours. I remember Obito saying something about 'not wanting to link Sasuke to the Gedo Statue yet', so that implies that he may have wanted for Sasuke to be the Rinnegan wielder after Nagato
There's one more thing. Maybe Konan never trusted Obito but she was very loyal to the plan of collecting bijuu's. When Naruto reached to talk to Nagato and eventually Nagato decided to put his trust in Naruto, Konan couldn't believe it, she was very shocked seeing Nagato give his life for Naruto. Because of this interaction it seems like she was more loyal to that plan than Nagato was. In the anime Obito says "I thought both of you agreed with my plan, she was loyal and didn't seem like she would betray him (betray him or his plans idk don't remember that)". 10:24 here I feel like, it seemed Konan was more loyal to the plan than Nagato was that's why Obito didn't take any action on Konan. She seems loyal because- the same thing- she was very very shocked seeing Nagato putting his trust in Naruto and abandoning their plans.
I mean, she abandoned those plans after Nagato put his faith into Naruto & she just followed Nagato's will. So I wouldn't say that she was more loyal to the plan than to Nagato
@@JuubiTaz Sry actually its a grammar error I meant to say "she was more loyal to the plan than Nagato was" by mistake I forgot to write 'was' but I corrected it now. Yeah that's true she was more loyal to Nagato than their plans
@@OfficialTheFury yeah I guess you could say that, but you could also say that Nagato just had. amore profound change by Naruto & his reference to Jiraiya's book
You all please forgive me, but I love seeing Sasori and Deidara as a couple. I don’t know why, but I love them. “Sasori Danna” is the cutest thing ever. Great video by the way!
If I recall tobi even said to itachi when he was bringing him into the akatsuki that he didn't want people knowing he was madara because that would alarm the world remember one of the reason's the akastuki were able to operate so well up until shippuden was because they were for the most part an unknown entity at the time they didn't really do anything big or grand until sometime around shippuden Jiraiya even said as much too that they stuck to the shaodw's talking small jobs here and there
Konan is such an interesting case considering the fact that both Tobi and Zetsu mentioned in the akatsuki novel that she will be a problem but not entirely as long as Nagato is on their side. They said as long as Nagato is loyal, she wouldn’t try anything. And the way Konan was depicted, she has full trust on Pain saying stuff like he has never been defeated and words of warning are useless to them. That’s why it baffles me that people are saying she’s been planning that ocean bomb for a decade when she never once thought of Nagato dying or losing. Tobi also mentioned in their fight that she was way more reasonable and rational than Nagato “i can see Nagato being persuade by the thought of true peace, but you Konan?” But yeah, I’ll say that she’s more loyal to her friends than the goal, hence she trust Naruto.
Konan was definitely more loyal to her friends than those goals, but she could've been developing that "ocean bomb for a decade" because she had to deal with Tobi & she knew Nagato couldn't
Oh this! This is wonderful! I really like stuff like this, it feels nice to have a deeper dive into characters and their dynamics beyond who can beat who. It enriches the story so much, makes the characters feel more real and it (atleast for me) makes me feel more connected to the universe of the show and story)
I agree.
Glad you enjoyed it! I'm working on that NarutoxJiraiya video as we speak 😉
I feel like Hidan and Kakazu both did like each other, they’re just so violent that they didn’t express it well. Kakazu did grab Hidan’s headband when there was no reason to and they still worked together well when Kakazu didn’t for the past partners
That's a good way of putting it tbh, Hidan seemed concerned when Shikamaru was controlling his body & tried to attack Kakuzu, and Kakuzu told Kakashi that they underestimated Hidan which is kind of a complement/acknowledgement
@@JuubiTaz for bloodthirsty mercenaries, definitely. Didn’t Hidan only join the organization to get to know Kakazu too? Probably seeking the only friendship that would be possible for an immortal
Might be anime only but kakuzu asks inoshikscho about hidans fate when he is reanimated
@@Zombotron5678 I think it was like that in the game
Obito/Tobi personality act was probably put on for the sake of Deidara.
Deidara hates the Uchiha ever since meeting Itachi and he also appears to have a mild inferiority complex. Could you imagine how Deidara would act if he found out his new partner was an Uchiha AND the true leader/director?! His performance and willingness as an Akatsuki would plummet. Obito acting like a fool satisfies Deidara's need to feel senior/superior & deflects any serious questions Deidara might have for him like his origin or secrets of his mangekyou space-time ninjutsu. After Deidara died there was no reason for Obito to continue the charade
that's a really good breakdown!
I needed this
Awwman, now I want to see a video on the hypothetical "Akatsuki civil war" how it would take place and who would ultimately win, but I'm also putting my money on the Uchiha duo, fish boy, and plant boy team though, just more OP hax on their side, more experience and brain power. the rinnegan though, the rinnegan would be a real bother
there is an interesting part about Pain's relationship with Itachi and Sasuke. In the last scene of Chapter 363, when Tobi arrives at Ame to meet with Pain and Konan, pain immediately asks about Sasuke. i believe that Pain was worried about being replaced by Sasuke. Tobi a few panels later references how Itachi "doesn't have much longer", and in the next scene (start of Chapter 364) Itachi is standing in the rain, which Pain is able to use his rainmaker jutsu, as a way to confirm if itachi's illness was real and/or progressing. Also Itachi standing in the rain could have been a way to signal something to Pain but we ultimately don't know enough about their relationship as a whole. This theory also may debunk Itachi standing in the rain to progress his illness depending on how you interpret the scene but I still believe he tried to make himself sick while already having an immunity condition. That's my take.
I second that belief of yours. I remember Obito saying something about 'not wanting to link Sasuke to the Gedo Statue yet', so that implies that he may have wanted for Sasuke to be the Rinnegan wielder after Nagato
More vids, please.
Awesome video dude
Thank you for even thinking of this Idea
There's one more thing. Maybe Konan never trusted Obito but she was very loyal to the plan of collecting bijuu's. When Naruto reached to talk to Nagato and eventually Nagato decided to put his trust in Naruto, Konan couldn't believe it, she was very shocked seeing Nagato give his life for Naruto. Because of this interaction it seems like she was more loyal to that plan than Nagato was. In the anime Obito says "I thought both of you agreed with my plan, she was loyal and didn't seem like she would betray him (betray him or his plans idk don't remember that)". 10:24 here I feel like, it seemed Konan was more loyal to the plan than Nagato was that's why Obito didn't take any action on Konan. She seems loyal because- the same thing- she was very very shocked seeing Nagato putting his trust in Naruto and abandoning their plans.
I mean, she abandoned those plans after Nagato put his faith into Naruto & she just followed Nagato's will. So I wouldn't say that she was more loyal to the plan than to Nagato
@@JuubiTaz Sry actually its a grammar error I meant to say "she was more loyal to the plan than Nagato was" by mistake I forgot to write 'was' but I corrected it now.
Yeah that's true she was more loyal to Nagato than their plans
@@JuubiTaz Since she seemed more loyal to the plan maybe that's the reason Obito didn't take any action on her.
@@OfficialTheFury yeah I guess you could say that, but you could also say that Nagato just had. amore profound change by Naruto & his reference to Jiraiya's book
Obito is just too strong for Pain's team to handle.
The civil war thing is such a great idea on its own!
You all please forgive me, but I love seeing Sasori and Deidara as a couple. I don’t know why, but I love them. “Sasori Danna” is the cutest thing ever.
Great video by the way!
W video
If I recall tobi even said to itachi when he was bringing him into the akatsuki that he didn't want people knowing he was madara because that would alarm the world remember one of the reason's the akastuki were able to operate so well up until shippuden was because they were for the most part an unknown entity at the time they didn't really do anything big or grand until sometime around shippuden Jiraiya even said as much too that they stuck to the shaodw's talking small jobs here and there
yeah true, he didnt want anyone saying the name "Madara" until he at least got more tailed beasts
* -more- senior *lay.
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@RyukTheChosen Semantic and grammar mistakes.
I always wondered what made hidan so crazy?
We need akatsuki ova
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