Things are different here in Canada. There's a tiny little 19th century cemetery here in Ontario close to Toronto. It was in the way of the big highway cloverleaf. They built the highway around it. Driving up the 427 you can see it. I've been in it. Still see flowers on the graves occasionally.
They were cheated out of their land. My grandparents tried to fight it but lossed. Imagine watching them move your love ones my family did. They moved both sides of my family one side is in Bath County the other Rowan county.
Makes you wonder what will happen after we are buried. One of my local cemetery’s is being investigated because graves were moved within the cemetery after they were interred.
My uncle and his first wife were married very young. She passed away about a year later, having my cousin. She was buried in a small family cemetery. Many years later, a major interstate highway was being built, and part of the cemetery property was taken. Many graves were relocated to other areas of the cemetery. My uncle stated that all parties involved were very respectful, and he was pleased with the new location.
I would love to come down in Kentucky and look around and see some of the graveyards and stuff. It’d be neat, but I got one here in where I live for you to look at.
Thank you so very much for sharing this with us. We got to know a little bit about your family history and that is a beautiful lake. I know if I was back in those times I wouldn’t have been happy about it either.
They did the same thing in Eddyville, Ky. What is now Eddyville is actually the “New Eddyville”. On clear days you can still see houses and barns in LBL.
@@Whittdocs, you need to come back to Daviess County so I can show you Beulah Annan’s gravesite. She was the the inspiration for Roxie Hart in the musical “Chicago”
I know that some cemeteries in America have graves that are leased for, say, 70 years, after which descendants are contacted to pay for another 70 years lease. If it's not renewed, they would remove the stone, dig up the bones and bury them somewhere at the back of the cemetery, sans marker. Then they would sell that plot to someone else. The same applies to many if the country's columbaria, where ashes, and coffins are inurned and interred. Though whether this applies to the very rich and famous is something i doubt we will discover in our lives. I'm in the UK where ive not heard of such practises, though I'm not saying that they don't exist. But with the vast spaces that are found across America, you would think that there would never be a need to disinter on a large scale, or small. Why disturb the dead, instead of the living? Why? Because the dead can't argue, and most that could be defended have banished from living memory. We have Kielder Dam and Derwent Water. I remember the little hamlets and villages that had to br sacrificed for the greater need of water. In really bad drought conditions the chimneys and roofs become exposed. Most surreal.
In Spain, the graves are rented, then the bones removed when no one renews the lease. Also the Philippines. In New Orleans , families own mausoleums, the bodies are placed inside, and the next family member will see the bones pushed to the back and down into the foundation. They have oven tombs, where in the hot environment decomposition is complete in a year and they do the same.
It is a beautiful lake and it is a water reservoir so it is a needed lake, but in the Bruin area there was a community called Horton Flats. When i was a teenager i knew an older man who had lived there and had so much anger because of it, i felt sorry for him.
Ive been to cemeteries that were so flooded that casket were floating and tied to trees till they could be identified and a reburial could happen. It was sad and scary to see that happened but it has happened where graves had to be relocated. The year of my moms death on May 23rd is coming up and i cant imagine if this were to happen to her. Id be heartbroken.
Sad but true story . It is considered an act of Betterment / progress for the community. Though I am happy that Nancy Barnett was left in her resting spot (middle of the road) in Frankin, Indiana . I just can't imagine how your Great Grandparents felt when forced into no other choice t! Thank you for taking Us along ✌️🌹
So very sad. Very disrespectful as well. I am not in favor of immanent domain, for any land. I live in a suburb of Detroit, Michigan. I have seen this done where many communities have been destroyed. I have never heard of it with cemeteries. I would fight like hell to protect any cemetery for the souls buried there. Thanks for sharing this story. God bless and safe travels.
I am in a suburb of Detroit as well. Love his videos. Learn so much. My grandmother and my uncle were relocated up north to a small church Graveyard when the Detroit cemetery they were buried in , didn't take care of the cemetery. Now my Dad and grandpa are with them. Way better than Mt Olivet cemetery. They are surrounded by Amish farms so you can't find a more peaceful area ❤
Eminent domain cut through the middle of his farm. Cut off the house from the crops to build a major hwy in Troy Missouri. He moved/built a home half a block up but he was still cut off from his land. He had room for a substantial garden and grandma kept canning. He had a stroke and it all went down quickly from there.
Modern day version of the story that has happen in NKY, on the grounds near CVG to be precise. Amazon came in bought up a farm that had been in one family since the finding of Boone County. While moving one family cemetery to a local church cemetery and 'improving the land' for construction, they found a second cemetery. Delayed the 'progress' for a few months but nothing stops Amazon from adding another warehouse.
Great and informative video! I live in Tennessee now, but am from a small town in Massachusetts near a very large reservoir, The Quabbin. It was built in the late 30s and early 40s to supply Boston's drinking water. For that to be accomplished, four towns were destroyed, and scores of graves had to be relocated. When I was growing up, my dad told many fascinating stories about this.
That really was interesting my friend. You don’t have a lot of choice with eminent domain. You can lose part of your property with no recourse. This brought to mind the lady in the middle of the road. You may remember this but the family refused to move her as eminent domain was claimed to build a road. She died in the early 1800s I believe and her final wishes were to always have a view of the water she loved. Her family refused to move her. The road went through. There is a concrete island with a metal marker marking her grave. I guess ED doesn’t always win out. Are you familiar with this Chris? My apologies for my poßt lèngtħ.😊
I descend from the Blevins. My second great grandmother was from this county and her name was Annis Blevins Whisman. I never knew that her family was moved and now that cemetery is up under water. Thank you so much for sharing!
Hi. . I would imagine if you had to give up all your property you would be upset ...here if the government builds a Hwy they will pay you and take some of your property or if they can build around it , they will do so...I know graves in a cemetery were all moved to another cemetery for a double lane Hwy. Thanks . Deborah 🇨🇦
The crazy thing is this world is only so big. That being said, and I understand everyone has their own beliefs. I do not wish to be disrespectful to anyone, but now that I’m 60 and I think about it, I don’t know why we bury our dearly departed. The saying goes ashes to ashes dust to dust, I have decided I am going to be cremated because I just feel it’s strange now to put a body in the ground. I do a lot of reading and I know of many graves/cemeteries that have been supposedly moved and they left half the bodies, etc. there are well documented stories was so long ago that I read them I wish I could remember the name of the book. The author is a really good author, and I can’t remember his name off the top of my head either I think the name of the book was beneath Cleveland. Plus, it’s so expensive to bury someone and so many people do not have the means to do so. Just my opinion… Hope everyone has a good night
My mom remembers watching them move the Criswell cemetery, you should talk to her about it. Kind of gory. And they were told they were moving and werent really given any optikns. My granny died still bitter about the lake
Very interesting. I can’t say as if I blame her. If they came and told me I had to move, it would leave me bitter. I’d love to talk to your mom about it. Thanks so much for the comment!
Well I actually knew one of the guys involved in the moving. He wasn’t a state employee but an actual funeral director. A great, upstanding man. I have no doubt they were moved properly. Now I’m sure there were unmarked ones that no one knew about.
So sad. The government does what it wants. What I wonder were all the graves moved or are some still under water. Thanks Chris for the story. I've Bleavins friends here
Similar experience happened here in Australia, withe the snowy mountains hydro electric scheme, whole towns were moved , and relocated. Stormy nights the jindabyne church bell can be heard tolling .
@@Whittdocs for anyone who's an Audiophile, the Australian Star John Laws released a record about this event in the 1960's it's a haunting and time accurate song about the move .it made the music charts worth a listen . Before the water arrived the church was gutted and the superstructure left in place .Thus the bell tower ringing on stormy nights underwater loud enough to be heard two miles away . Even to this very day.
I read a book "Buried Under Cleveland". The city took over family land including the family cemeteries. If they found the bodies, they were reinterred. If they knew a body WAS supposed to be there but wasn't found, they just left it and built the road right over the body. This has happened several times. In the local cemetery where I live now, they built a road over the graves. The marker is on one side of the road and the plot is cut in half. I always thought burial ground was sacred. I guess you have no rights not even when you are dead. Shame that money always wins out
Just a story, sort of the reverse. There was an 1840’s chapel and graveyard that was left after people had autos and could drive to town. Come the 1990’s and suburbs were springing up and a church was needed for the new people. All the old records were in the town church and one day while organizing, they found the deed to the old chapel. Biiiig company thought they owned the land, but were sued to return it to the church. Court ruled that the land had not been abandoned, as the graveyard counted as continual use. We got an additional 3 acres as a gracious gesture. I keep an eye out for little quirks in road layout, as there are often family cemeteries tucked in a curve.
The town of Ray,Oklahoma is under lake Ft. Gibson. They moved the graves to other cemeteries.
Sounds very similar.
Things are different here in Canada. There's a tiny little 19th century cemetery here in Ontario close to Toronto. It was in the way of the big highway cloverleaf. They built the highway around it. Driving up the 427 you can see it. I've been in it. Still see flowers on the graves occasionally.
Oh wow. I appreciate you sharing that. I love to hear about things in other areas
I agree- They probably were not given much choice and most likely not compensated correctly because of the same issues.
It makes me wonder.
That's so sad I would be so upset if my parents' final resting place had to be moved
They were cheated out of their land. My grandparents tried to fight it but lossed. Imagine watching them move your love ones my family did. They moved both sides of my family one side is in Bath County the other Rowan county.
Makes you wonder what will happen after we are buried. One of my local cemetery’s is being investigated because graves were moved within the cemetery after they were interred.
Wow. It does make you wonder.
My uncle and his first wife were married very young. She passed away about a year later, having my cousin. She was buried in a small family cemetery. Many years later, a major interstate highway was being built, and part of the cemetery property was taken. Many graves were relocated to other areas of the cemetery. My uncle stated that all parties involved were very respectful, and he was pleased with the new location.
I’m glad it worked out.
There is a big to do now in Birmingham AL- the zoo is expanding over a cemetery
I actually think I seen that.
I would love to come down in Kentucky and look around and see some of the graveyards and stuff. It’d be neat, but I got one here in where I live for you to look at.
I’d love to!
Thank you so very much for sharing this with us. We got to know a little bit about your family history and that is a beautiful lake. I know if I was back in those times I wouldn’t have been happy about it either.
I really appreciate that. Thank you.
They did the same thing in Eddyville, Ky. What is now Eddyville is actually the “New Eddyville”. On clear days you can still see houses and barns in LBL.
I was just in Eddyville a few weeks ago.
@@Whittdocs, you need to come back to Daviess County so I can show you Beulah Annan’s gravesite. She was the the inspiration for Roxie Hart in the musical “Chicago”
@tiffanyclaycomb6494 oh my goodness, I would love to.
They didn't give any free graves to anybody.
Wow
I know that some cemeteries in America have graves that are leased for, say, 70 years, after which descendants are contacted to pay for another 70 years lease. If it's not renewed, they would remove the stone, dig up the bones and bury them somewhere at the back of the cemetery, sans marker. Then they would sell that plot to someone else. The same applies to many if the country's columbaria, where ashes, and coffins are inurned and interred. Though whether this applies to the very rich and famous is something i doubt we will discover in our lives. I'm in the UK where ive not heard of
such practises, though I'm not saying that they don't exist. But with the vast spaces that are found across America, you would think that there would never be a need to disinter on a large scale, or small. Why disturb the dead, instead of the living? Why? Because the dead can't argue, and most that could be defended have banished from living memory.
We have Kielder Dam and Derwent Water. I remember the little hamlets and villages that had to br sacrificed for the greater need of water. In really bad drought conditions the chimneys and roofs become exposed. Most surreal.
Wow. Thanks for sharing that.
In Spain, the graves are rented, then the bones removed when no one renews the lease. Also the Philippines.
In New Orleans , families own mausoleums, the bodies are placed inside, and the next family member will see the bones pushed to the back and down into the foundation. They have oven tombs, where in the hot environment decomposition is complete in a year and they do the same.
I don't think I'd like to be boating and fishing and swimming on hollow ground. I Wonder. How many people know about this.
I would say locally, several. Outside of here, not many.
It is a beautiful lake and it is a water reservoir so it is a needed lake, but in the Bruin area there was a community called Horton Flats. When i was a teenager i knew an older man who had lived there and had so much anger because of it, i felt sorry for him.
I know exactly where Horton Flats is. I know there was a lot of anger. Thanks for the comment.
Interesting thanks for sharing ❤
Thank you!
Ive been to cemeteries that were so flooded that casket were floating and tied to trees till they could be identified and a reburial could happen. It was sad and scary to see that happened but it has happened where graves had to be relocated. The year of my moms death on May 23rd is coming up and i cant imagine if this were to happen to her. Id be heartbroken.
Audra, I’ll be thinking about you with the anniversary coming up. God Bless.
@Whittdocs thank you. That means a lot. Mothers Day will be hard but I'm going to try to smile and remember the good things about past mothers days.
Sad but true story . It is considered an act of Betterment / progress for the community. Though I am happy that Nancy Barnett was left in her resting spot (middle of the road) in Frankin, Indiana . I just can't imagine how your Great Grandparents felt when forced into no other choice t! Thank you for taking Us along ✌️🌹
I couldn’t imagine. I appreciate your comment. Thank you for watching.
So very sad. Very disrespectful as well. I am not in favor of immanent domain, for any land. I live in a suburb of Detroit, Michigan. I have seen this done where many communities have been destroyed. I have never heard of it with cemeteries. I would fight like hell to protect any cemetery for the souls buried there. Thanks for sharing this story. God bless and safe travels.
Thanks so much for your comment!
I am in a suburb of Detroit as well. Love his videos. Learn so much.
My grandmother and my uncle were relocated up north to a small church Graveyard when the Detroit cemetery they were buried in , didn't take care of the cemetery. Now my Dad and grandpa are with them. Way better than Mt Olivet cemetery. They are surrounded by Amish farms so you can't find a more peaceful area ❤
At Merwin Dam in Ariel Washington they built a dam. They took over the town and cemetery and told everyone to move...families still remeber
Some of my family were moved from Rowena when lake Cumberland was built
PROGRESS, thanks for sharing
Thanks John. Always appreciate your comments.
Love this video you learn a lot about the past where we come from
Oh, wow.
Yeah. Interesting how it all went down.
Eminent domain cut through the middle of his farm. Cut off the house from the crops to build a major hwy in Troy Missouri. He moved/built a home half a block up but he was still cut off from his land. He had room for a substantial garden and grandma kept canning. He had a stroke and it all went down quickly from there.
What a story. Thanks for sharing.
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Modern day version of the story that has happen in NKY, on the grounds near CVG to be precise. Amazon came in bought up a farm that had been in one family since the finding of Boone County. While moving one family cemetery to a local church cemetery and 'improving the land' for construction, they found a second cemetery. Delayed the 'progress' for a few months but nothing stops Amazon from adding another warehouse.
I had no idea. Thanks for sharing that.
Great and informative video! I live in Tennessee now, but am from a small town in Massachusetts near a very large reservoir, The Quabbin. It was built in the late 30s and early 40s to supply Boston's drinking water. For that to be accomplished, four towns were destroyed, and scores of graves had to be relocated. When I was growing up, my dad told many fascinating stories about this.
Very neat
That really was interesting my friend. You don’t have a lot of choice with eminent domain. You can lose part of your property with no recourse. This brought to mind the lady in the middle of the road. You may remember this but the family refused to move her as eminent domain was claimed to build a road. She died in the early 1800s I believe and her final wishes were to always have a view of the water she loved. Her family refused to move her. The road went through. There is a concrete island with a metal marker marking her grave. I guess ED doesn’t always win out. Are you familiar with this Chris? My apologies for my poßt lèngtħ.😊
I sure am. I’ve actually been there before. Neat place.
I descend from the Blevins. My second great grandmother was from this county and her name was Annis Blevins Whisman. I never knew that her family was moved and now that cemetery is up under water. Thank you so much for sharing!
Thanks so much for watching!
Hi. . I would imagine if you had to give up all your property you would be upset ...here if the government builds a Hwy they will pay you and take some of your property or if they can build around it , they will do so...I know graves in a cemetery were all moved to another cemetery for a double lane Hwy. Thanks . Deborah 🇨🇦
Thanks so much Deborah.
I lived in Grayson up until I joined the Army and moved away. I never knew that graves were relocated when the lake was built. Now I know.
Thanks for sharing. And it’s always good to talk to somebody from Grayson!
Yes the government can force people to move a grave. If the land is needed for some reason.
Yes…. Happened to my family!
Well, gives new meaning to the phrase "final resting place."
Sure does!
The crazy thing is this world is only so big. That being said, and I understand everyone has their own beliefs. I do not wish to be disrespectful to anyone, but now that I’m 60 and I think about it, I don’t know why we bury our dearly departed. The saying goes ashes to ashes dust to dust, I have decided I am going to be cremated because I just feel it’s strange now to put a body in the ground. I do a lot of reading and I know of many graves/cemeteries that have been supposedly moved and they left half the bodies, etc. there are well documented stories was so long ago that I read them I wish I could remember the name of the book. The author is a really good author, and I can’t remember his name off the top of my head either I think the name of the book was beneath Cleveland. Plus, it’s so expensive to bury someone and so many people do not have the means to do so. Just my opinion… Hope everyone has a good night
I really appreciate your insight. Thank you.
But you have to ask yourself, did they really move all of the bodies, because I've heard of people just removing the headstones.
In this case, I believed that all the know graves were moved. But, the unmarked, I doubt.
Yes they can it happened to my family. They moved everyone one was my brother. They put a bunch different cemetery together. Cave run lake
That sounds like what happened here.
My mom remembers watching them move the Criswell cemetery, you should talk to her about it. Kind of gory. And they were told they were moving and werent really given any optikns. My granny died still bitter about the lake
Very interesting. I can’t say as if I blame her. If they came and told me I had to move, it would leave me bitter. I’d love to talk to your mom about it. Thanks so much for the comment!
Wonder if they actually moved the remains or just the headstones ?
Well I actually knew one of the guys involved in the moving. He wasn’t a state employee but an actual funeral director. A great, upstanding man. I have no doubt they were moved properly. Now I’m sure there were unmarked ones that no one knew about.
Great video ! Special family history ❤️
Thank you.
So sad. The government does what it wants. What I wonder were all the graves moved or are some still under water. Thanks Chris for the story. I've Bleavins friends here
Thanks Kevin!
I wonder if people go scuba diving in the lake if they see the remains of the town.
Hmmmm. Good question.
Similar experience happened here in Australia, withe the snowy mountains hydro electric scheme, whole towns were moved , and relocated. Stormy nights the jindabyne church bell can be heard tolling .
Oh my. Thanks for sharing that.
@@Whittdocs for anyone who's an Audiophile, the Australian Star John Laws released a record about this event in the 1960's it's a haunting and time accurate song about the move .it made the music charts worth a listen . Before the water arrived the church was gutted and the superstructure left in place .Thus the bell tower ringing on stormy nights underwater loud enough to be heard two miles away . Even to this very day.
I read a book "Buried Under Cleveland". The city took over family land including the family cemeteries. If they found the bodies, they were reinterred. If they knew a body WAS supposed to be there but wasn't found, they just left it and built the road right over the body. This has happened several times.
In the local cemetery where I live now, they built a road over the graves. The marker is on one side of the road and the plot is cut in half.
I always thought burial ground was sacred. I guess you have no rights not even when you are dead. Shame that money always wins out
Money always wins it seems.
I'm sorry the state did that to you
Thanks for watching!
Just a story, sort of the reverse. There was an 1840’s chapel and graveyard that was left after people had autos and could drive to town. Come the 1990’s and suburbs were springing up and a church was needed for the new people. All the old records were in the town church and one day while organizing, they found the deed to the old chapel. Biiiig company thought they owned the land, but were sued to return it to the church. Court ruled that the land had not been abandoned, as the graveyard counted as continual use. We got an additional 3 acres as a gracious gesture.
I keep an eye out for little quirks in road layout, as there are often family cemeteries tucked in a curve.