And also writers actually make those characters like, wise and don’t just slap some stupid archetypes on them (like they would on teen characters) which is why those characters tend to be more chill and serious
I laughed when I realised he put both Kanji and Yusuke in S tier-who both happen to be voiced by Matthew Mercer. I swear he always plays his roles perfectly.
@@richardthepastamancer6619 Also Shido kinda saw it coming so his plan would never succed to begin with. Problem was that he was moredependent on Shido than Shido was on Akechi.
I think the reason why the middle aged social links work better than some of the teens is because the writers aren't young teens running around school saving the world. They probably understand the adults better and naturally they can write interesting stuff with them.
@@FilthyKong junpei tier, at the very top. Junpei is the reason I kept playing persona. Junpei saved my wife and children from a fire. Junpei cured my grandpa's cancer. Junpei got chidori of all people, Junpei is a king.
@Rock www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65141973 www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65141973 here you are brother
I rate Yosuke really highly because his high points are amazing, he's SIMILAR to both Narukami and Adachi but not in any particular direction. P4A, he's basically the protag. Though Junpei does have a stronger arc, so they may be around even, or Junpei just edging the win. I would bump Shido up, he's literally a prime minister candidate, of course he has that much reach, on top of that him trying to temporarily kill himself for one last gamble to win is amazing. Yeah, Akechi is a special case where he's infinitely interesting but maybe not for the best reasons.
Big respect for not crapping on Kenji, he was the first social link I maxed in the first Persona game I ever played and let me tell ya, hearing him tell P3MC that _he's always gonna be my friend_ really hit me where it hurts knowing how the game ends. Same with Keisuke promising not to let anything happen to P3MC while he's still alive.... shit, same with Junpei asking if we'll always be friends.... oh god, this game..................
I think the appeal of older men SL/C is that, in these games you're a second year student, or a junior in high school. You're just barely reaching the cusp of adulthood and you have to deal with all these things, both small and large scale. Meeting these regular-ass guys, who've been through things you as the protag haven't, but still willing to give their time to talk to you and forge a bond I think acts as a breath of fresh air
If Strikers’ Zenkichi had a SL/C, he’d be among one of the best ones in my eyes because he’s lived through the real rough aspects of adult life and the protagonist could have gained real valuable life experiences from him. The counterpart to Sojiro’s story where his storyline plays out in bit of a reverse order.
That's honestly my biggest issue with how Persona 5 handles its character development. I can't speak on how P4 does things because I haven't started it yet, but everything in P3 felt so much more tied together, and the characters didn't have to lean so heavily on the protagonist for screentime because they all had unique and important relationships within the group itself, and subsequently caused one another's second awakenings through the way they changed and affected each other. It moved naturally and in tandem to the progression of the story. But in P5, the whole world revolves around Joker and the player's bias. If you don't favor a character enough to spend time with them, kiss their development goodbye. It literally doesn't matter and doesn't affect the overarching story one bit, and I just don't vibe as much with that sense of disconnection. Kinda just makes it feel like most of the main cast is inconsequential once their introductory arc is over (except Akechi, and probably now Kasumi.)
@@lindsfreey9080 that's why p3 is my favourite, they should make the character obtaining their persona the start of their arc instead of the end, that would save the Harus of the future from suffering the same fate.
@@lindsfreey9080 Persona 4 is even worse in that regard, because the whole premise of the characters joining the team is them accepting their other selves. Which doesn't leave much room for further development, and leads to most of their S. Links just spinning the wheels or outright repeating the development they already had.
@@lindsfreey9080 Oh god, me too. Persona 4 was the one that started the awful trend that Person 5 kept of not letting your party member maturity be integral to the story. The thing is, the only reason Persona 3 did it that way was because back then the social link aspect was just in it beginnings so they split the character development between the story and the SL. Sadly in Persona 4 they started to lean heavily on the social link aspect and basically dumped all of the party members development to SL. Something they kept in Persona 5. I *hate* this. I hate this *so much* . It sort of create a rift between automatic story progressing ranking social link (Akechi, Morgana) and normal rankable SL (Ryuji, Ann) where the characters don't really feel like they grew at all. That and they don't interact with each other unless Joker is around to hold their hands. Persona 5 has it way worse than Persona 4 for that part. For persona 6 I hope they fucking go back to actually have party members actually have a life away from the protag and maybe have them fix their problems without ProtagonisMcJesus' input all the fucking time.
I'm really glad Minato was that high up he's my favorite but people overlook him cuz they usually play P4/P5 before P3/don't understand the ending/or haven't played it. it really hurts for me so I'm glad you enjoyed his 2009 edginess
Hooray, someone else who appreciates Naoki! I love how his social link provides extra closure to the early storyline with Saki. And his story is a surprisingly realistic look into the nature of dealing with personal grief. Also in general you have great taste!! Especially with all the older guys, Akihito, Kanji, and Yusuke.
what I like about namatame is that he subverts a lot of tropes that go with characters with a "messiah complex" most of these characters are usually depicted as egotistical/overconfident. Namatame is almost the polar opposite, in terms of personality anyway. Fairly self-conscious/depressed and is a guy down on his luck. He takes on the act of trying to "save" people cause he genuinely feels like it's his only way to make a difference in people's lives. As you said, he gets caught up in a web of complexities that he was never given a proper guide for. By the end of persona 4, he is twisted by the goal he set himself up for. Even after he probably knew something was wrong. I genuinely do feel like he would've been a hero/party member/confidant if he was approached early on in the story.
I like Ken more as a premise than a person. I played 5, then 3, then 4 but had had 4's cast spoiled by various countdowns and VE's over the years. 3's cast was only half spoiled, Ken was among the characters I had no idea about. I am more or less indifferent to him as a person but I appreciate the fact that there is a younger child party memeber in a game so dominated by teenagers. I get that they are high school games and I'm not saying the amount of teens is bad, it just makes Ken stand out as more unique. And that diversity is also helped by Aegis and Koromaru too. (Koro best animal party member)
26:00 isn't the reason Shido and the main cast of p5 so deeply intertwined come from how they're all pieces in yaldybois game? Like that is straight up the reason/a big reveal, it's not coincidence, it's how the pieces of the (rigged) game play out (and due to the game being rigged, were going to play out this way). Sae even mentions that there is no way the phantom thieves got involved with Shido right after Kamoshida's palace (and thus continuing their work) and the daughter of wakaba and just all of that other "there is no other way to feasibly describe this bs as anything other than a coincidence" stuff via a simple coincidence. It's not that Shido has so much power that he can brainwash the populace, it's just that he is p5's version of p4's fog, a tool of the games respective god to fulfill what the people are unconsciously desiring. In p5 it's the security of not having to think for ones self, and p4 has the comfort of not needing to confront truth/others (or something of the sort).
Honestly instead of Haru's father they should've made Haru's fiance the target. We see that Haru's dad isnt evil per se, just ignorant of what his employees and especially his daughter go through while he tries to make the most out of life. Haru's fiance tries to rape her in an alleyway. The easy arguement is that it would feel like too much of a retread of Kamoshida's palace, but just age up the fiance a couple years (about age 25-27), have him beg for sympathy by saying his dad died leaving him in charge of the company 2-3 years ago, and just have his employees get treated like shit by him. And then just have the issue of Haru's confidant be her taking over the company soon after her father chooses to retire or go into hiding due to the shit that's been going down recently, going as far as the fiance of his daughter dying. He'd come off as an asshole, sure, but Haru ends up needing to run a company before graduating high school either way.
Plus the Thieves actually met the prick unlike Haru’s father whom they never actually meet and I hate his stupid face so much that taking out his cognition just ain’t doing it for me. As for Haru’s father, it could have done something interesting where the Palace Ruler in question isn’t really too much in the wrong other than his neglect and the change of heart could have been where the Thieves realised that they actually got the wrong guy. Would have at least justified the stupid Morgana and Ryuji conflict’s existence in the arc where it happened because of Morgana’s actions in the arc.
Yosuke should be higher, he has the best bromance with the protagonist of all the series, and how they made ren so boring in the anime, ChadNarukami win all the way as the coolest protagonist.
@@minatoyuki4800 He was only likeable as the asshole of the party. He still killed countless people and hates the phantom thieves and tried to kill them. He bounces between motivations and calls people his own age "brats". Not worth forgiveness, not a well written character, but kinda funny with how nuts he is
@@minatoyuki4800 I'd agree, in fact I'd say one of the more compelling parts of Adachi's story in the spinoffs is that he isn't forgiven; he still acts like a dick, but he admits how Yu and the investigation team won out over him. The "redemption" arc he goes through is based on him coming to understand that if he had lived a bit more like Yu and learned to cherish the bonds he made, he would be much happier. Adachi's problems are rooted in his own actions, and there's no reversing the path he went down.
I'm a simple woman with simple needs: Whenever i see my darling artsy boy Yusuke in the S tier and i cheer, then i cheer even more at seing my sweet young man Aki get the same recognition! You sure taste in good (and in these 2 cases: attractive) male characters, i'm glad P3's protagonist is on a high tier too!
Aged man social links all the way bois! But seriously, I would be ready to put Yoshida in S tier. There’s no way you can find a better confidant in P5.
Ryoji Mochizuki only got to B im going to commit a crime ps of course his relationship with the protag had kinda romantic vibes in the movie, he's not only the protags literal soulmate but also comes out as bi if you romance him in p3p
@@lelouch3666 you aren't wrong about that. But how do you determine that a character is good when they are being used by someone in real life, that Doesent really make sense. I respect mkleo but your point really Doesent stand out to me
Now that we have Zenkichi to add onto the "cool older men" pile, I'm really starting to wonder what it is about all the heroic-aligned adult men in this series that makes them all so cool to be around.
@@Jfray252 I didn't relate to his perverted stuff but other wise he's a fun character that I'd put in A tier, it's saying something considering I fucking hate his perverted rants...i like being mean to him tho.
Loving the Tier list, now what would be interesting is ranking All the music from persona 2-5, it would be interesting to see (remixes like the smash one and the dancing games would be cool but ik thats a lot)
Yeah, Kamoshida and Madarame are the best villains in P5. Kamoshida is someone I actually want to beat up and Madarame is different in how he’s villainous.
Since you love yusuke all that much you should really read beastars (the anime is good but netflix keeps it in limbo for no reason at all.) Because legosi, the main character, is essentialy yusuke on steroids, a lovable oddball that everytime you see him doing something you can't help but smile, also beastars is a great series as a hole, full of great characters and the society of beastars is preety realistic, like the fact that carnivores can't eat meat because it's extremely ilegal, so they eat stuff that helps suplement meat like beans for iron and carboidrates for that fat they need, and this is only the surface, don't go with the bias many people have of: it's furry shit, then it must be fan service, because it's not.
@@kuzunohaxiv7912 they're saying it's not just furry bait and nothing else. It's a well written series where the fact characters are animals is really important to the series and not just pure fan service.
Ryugi and Ann in D tier👎 Ryugi and Ann in C tier 👎 Ryugi and Ann in B tier 👍👎 Ryugi and Ann in A tier👍 Ryugi and Ann in A+ tier👍👍 Ryugi and Ann in S tier👍👍👍👍👍
I'm late to finding your channel cause I didn't start playing Persona 5 until July 2021, but I mostly agree with this list except for Akechi. Granted this was before Royal so I get it, but I'm curious whether or not your opinion of Akechi has changed since Royal given how much more context he's given in that version of the game.
Huh, Thin Lizzy, nice. I'm a fan of "The Sun Goes Down" when it comes to them personally, but "The Boys are Back in Town" is always enjoyable to listen to.
For one that was missing, how would you rank Haru's fiance? Personally, as a villain, I would put him in B tier because, next to Kamoshida, he was one of the other villains (despite him being basically a mini-boss) that I legitimately hated.
Fither: *Puts Shido in C tier*
"Damn brat I'll sue!"
Damn sue, I'll brat!
Sue damn, I'll brat!
@@finalthief4894 brat damn sue I'll!
Damn, i'll sue brat!
I'll brat, sue damn!
"Middle aged and older men tend to have the best links" - aren't most of the writing staff around that age? Would make sense
Write what you know, as they say.
And also writers actually make those characters like, wise and don’t just slap some stupid archetypes on them (like they would on teen characters) which is why those characters tend to be more chill and serious
Which is why every non middle aged man character is in danger of being Like That
Okay... Who wrote Namatame and is probably cheating on his wife....
Lol it’s true 🤣
I laughed when I realised he put both Kanji and Yusuke in S tier-who both happen to be voiced by Matthew Mercer. I swear he always plays his roles perfectly.
No Kanji is voiced by Troy baker
Mercer voices him in the animation and I Think golden as well?
Troy Baker is Kanji’s voice in Golden. Matt Mercer is Kanji in Q, Arena (I think), and Dancing All Night
There is no better phrase that describes Sojiro Sakura than, "Aged like fine wine."
*As long as Adachi is not lower than S Tier*
"i'm straight, in case you couldn't tell"
said by someone too deep in his bernadachi voice acting it's a bit too convincing
He's straight but he's into futanari so he's still a little sus
Also, "Damn Ryoji lookin' a lil fuckable."
>Koromaru not in SS tier
BRUH
Fact.
The goodest boy
King Vetür The only boy that matters really
In my party always
That includes the spinoffs
For Door chan Ken would be in SS tier.
"Be old or be dying, that was the secret to being a good social link on Persona 3"
*Yes.*
Hot take: Akechi's nonsense made him a better character than he was before the betrayal
It was interesting seeing just how unhinged he was contrasted to his normally composed self.
Drexalnewb man that’s what I’m talkin bout Akechi belongs in at least A+ tier just for how interesting he is
I would say "less terrible". His plan is kinda dumb the turn is super predictable and don't even get me started with that edge...
@@richardthepastamancer6619 Also Shido kinda saw it coming so his plan would never succed to begin with. Problem was that he was moredependent on Shido than Shido was on Akechi.
It's not a hot take. Calling it non sense is literally just not understanding how writing works.
I think the reason why the middle aged social links work better than some of the teens is because the writers aren't young teens running around school saving the world. They probably understand the adults better and naturally they can write interesting stuff with them.
*overused Akihiko quote here*
"I've been waiting one minute and twenty five seconds for this!"
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!?!
PROTEIN!
"Have you read the newspaper lately? There's a lot going on... "
Reee
If Junpei isn't AT LEAST A+ I'm downvoting this.
edit: yeah you ok
@@FilthyKong junpei tier, at the very top. Junpei is the reason I kept playing persona. Junpei saved my wife and children from a fire. Junpei cured my grandpa's cancer. Junpei got chidori of all people, Junpei is a king.
Nuggetaboutit Typical Junpei
@@minatoyuki4800 Of course Makoto says this
Everytime door kun gets a good spot i become really happy
Now we need the best party Personas Tier List Design.
Pixie S tier pixie is Chad compared to the virgin yoshitsune
Andras S tier
Loki S Tier
Mothman S tier
Mara S tier
Haha penis joke
if Igor isn't S tier, I am transferring all of my student loan debt to you
Points for originality.
**This comentary exist beatwin dreams and reality**
The power of my gay is not strong enough for this one.
@@ex_philemon pee pee poo poo
PurpleLemonDoesStuff nice profile pic ;3
PurpleLemonDoesStuff that profile pic..I’m not even gonna complain it’s hot
@Rock www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65141973 www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65141973 here you are brother
PurpleLemonDoesStuff I’m not gay but joker tho??
I love you just for putting Yusuke in the highest rank. He really deserves it. Thank you!
I rate Yosuke really highly because his high points are amazing, he's SIMILAR to both Narukami and Adachi but not in any particular direction. P4A, he's basically the protag. Though Junpei does have a stronger arc, so they may be around even, or Junpei just edging the win. I would bump Shido up, he's literally a prime minister candidate, of course he has that much reach, on top of that him trying to temporarily kill himself for one last gamble to win is amazing. Yeah, Akechi is a special case where he's infinitely interesting but maybe not for the best reasons.
>Persona 2 boys arent on the tier list
I got told that Fither got pantsed in Junior High and never recovered. Wonder what that's all about.
Dang. Who let Ekichi loose?
Big respect for not crapping on Kenji, he was the first social link I maxed in the first Persona game I ever played and let me tell ya, hearing him tell P3MC that _he's always gonna be my friend_ really hit me where it hurts knowing how the game ends. Same with Keisuke promising not to let anything happen to P3MC while he's still alive.... shit, same with Junpei asking if we'll always be friends.... oh god, this game..................
P3 is OP in hitting ya
I think the appeal of older men SL/C is that, in these games you're a second year student, or a junior in high school. You're just barely reaching the cusp of adulthood and you have to deal with all these things, both small and large scale. Meeting these regular-ass guys, who've been through things you as the protag haven't, but still willing to give their time to talk to you and forge a bond I think acts as a breath of fresh air
If Strikers’ Zenkichi had a SL/C, he’d be among one of the best ones in my eyes because he’s lived through the real rough aspects of adult life and the protagonist could have gained real valuable life experiences from him. The counterpart to Sojiro’s story where his storyline plays out in bit of a reverse order.
i never realized just how much the P3 second awakenings help the story.
they really should bring those back.
That's honestly my biggest issue with how Persona 5 handles its character development. I can't speak on how P4 does things because I haven't started it yet, but everything in P3 felt so much more tied together, and the characters didn't have to lean so heavily on the protagonist for screentime because they all had unique and important relationships within the group itself, and subsequently caused one another's second awakenings through the way they changed and affected each other. It moved naturally and in tandem to the progression of the story. But in P5, the whole world revolves around Joker and the player's bias. If you don't favor a character enough to spend time with them, kiss their development goodbye. It literally doesn't matter and doesn't affect the overarching story one bit, and I just don't vibe as much with that sense of disconnection. Kinda just makes it feel like most of the main cast is inconsequential once their introductory arc is over (except Akechi, and probably now Kasumi.)
@@lindsfreey9080 that's why p3 is my favourite, they should make the character obtaining their persona the start of their arc instead of the end, that would save the Harus of the future from suffering the same fate.
@@lindsfreey9080 Persona 4 is even worse in that regard, because the whole premise of the characters joining the team is them accepting their other selves. Which doesn't leave much room for further development, and leads to most of their S. Links just spinning the wheels or outright repeating the development they already had.
@@lindsfreey9080 Oh god, me too. Persona 4 was the one that started the awful trend that Person 5 kept of not letting your party member maturity be integral to the story. The thing is, the only reason Persona 3 did it that way was because back then the social link aspect was just in it beginnings so they split the character development between the story and the SL.
Sadly in Persona 4 they started to lean heavily on the social link aspect and basically dumped all of the party members development to SL. Something they kept in Persona 5. I *hate* this. I hate this *so much* .
It sort of create a rift between automatic story progressing ranking social link (Akechi, Morgana) and normal rankable SL (Ryuji, Ann) where the characters don't really feel like they grew at all. That and they don't interact with each other unless Joker is around to hold their hands. Persona 5 has it way worse than Persona 4 for that part.
For persona 6 I hope they fucking go back to actually have party members actually have a life away from the protag and maybe have them fix their problems without ProtagonisMcJesus' input all the fucking time.
That's why i love Persona 2 and 3.
I'm really glad Minato was that high up he's my favorite but people overlook him cuz they usually play P4/P5 before P3/don't understand the ending/or haven't played it. it really hurts for me so I'm glad you enjoyed his 2009 edginess
The takeaway? Fither likes old men
And the Emperor’s
Hooray, someone else who appreciates Naoki! I love how his social link provides extra closure to the early storyline with Saki. And his story is a surprisingly realistic look into the nature of dealing with personal grief.
Also in general you have great taste!! Especially with all the older guys, Akihito, Kanji, and Yusuke.
I haven't finished his S-link, I'm in my 3rd run 💀.
Post-royal, watching you put Akechi between Teddy and Morgana with such... Security knocked the wind out of me
what I like about namatame is that he subverts a lot of tropes that go with characters with a "messiah complex"
most of these characters are usually depicted as egotistical/overconfident. Namatame is almost the polar opposite, in terms of personality anyway. Fairly self-conscious/depressed and is a guy down on his luck. He takes on the act of trying to "save" people cause he genuinely feels like it's his only way to make a difference in people's lives. As you said, he gets caught up in a web of complexities that he was never given a proper guide for. By the end of persona 4, he is twisted by the goal he set himself up for. Even after he probably knew something was wrong. I genuinely do feel like he would've been a hero/party member/confidant if he was approached early on in the story.
My thoughts exactly on Nozomi.
Fat
I like Ken more as a premise than a person. I played 5, then 3, then 4 but had had 4's cast spoiled by various countdowns and VE's over the years. 3's cast was only half spoiled, Ken was among the characters I had no idea about.
I am more or less indifferent to him as a person but I appreciate the fact that there is a younger child party memeber in a game so dominated by teenagers. I get that they are high school games and I'm not saying the amount of teens is bad, it just makes Ken stand out as more unique.
And that diversity is also helped by Aegis and Koromaru too. (Koro best animal party member)
26:00 isn't the reason Shido and the main cast of p5 so deeply intertwined come from how they're all pieces in yaldybois game? Like that is straight up the reason/a big reveal, it's not coincidence, it's how the pieces of the (rigged) game play out (and due to the game being rigged, were going to play out this way). Sae even mentions that there is no way the phantom thieves got involved with Shido right after Kamoshida's palace (and thus continuing their work) and the daughter of wakaba and just all of that other "there is no other way to feasibly describe this bs as anything other than a coincidence" stuff via a simple coincidence. It's not that Shido has so much power that he can brainwash the populace, it's just that he is p5's version of p4's fog, a tool of the games respective god to fulfill what the people are unconsciously desiring. In p5 it's the security of not having to think for ones self, and p4 has the comfort of not needing to confront truth/others (or something of the sort).
Honestly instead of Haru's father they should've made Haru's fiance the target. We see that Haru's dad isnt evil per se, just ignorant of what his employees and especially his daughter go through while he tries to make the most out of life. Haru's fiance tries to rape her in an alleyway. The easy arguement is that it would feel like too much of a retread of Kamoshida's palace, but just age up the fiance a couple years (about age 25-27), have him beg for sympathy by saying his dad died leaving him in charge of the company 2-3 years ago, and just have his employees get treated like shit by him. And then just have the issue of Haru's confidant be her taking over the company soon after her father chooses to retire or go into hiding due to the shit that's been going down recently, going as far as the fiance of his daughter dying. He'd come off as an asshole, sure, but Haru ends up needing to run a company before graduating high school either way.
Plus the Thieves actually met the prick unlike Haru’s father whom they never actually meet and I hate his stupid face so much that taking out his cognition just ain’t doing it for me.
As for Haru’s father, it could have done something interesting where the Palace Ruler in question isn’t really too much in the wrong other than his neglect and the change of heart could have been where the Thieves realised that they actually got the wrong guy. Would have at least justified the stupid Morgana and Ryuji conflict’s existence in the arc where it happened because of Morgana’s actions in the arc.
I think that the palaces aren't formed based on how evil someone is, but just on how delusional their perception of the world is.
akihiko is also my favorite thank you fither.
sojiro was the only to survive the glasses snap.
Goku Rikkusu Akihiko was a powerhouse in P3 he was without a doubt the best boi.
I love your Adachi voice.
Yosuke should be higher, he has the best bromance with the protagonist of all the series, and how they made ren so boring in the anime, ChadNarukami win all the way as the coolest protagonist.
Akechi was less likable after his heel turn
Adachi is the exact opposite IMHO
Laughs in Royal
@@minatoyuki4800 He was only likeable as the asshole of the party. He still killed countless people and hates the phantom thieves and tried to kill them. He bounces between motivations and calls people his own age "brats". Not worth forgiveness, not a well written character, but kinda funny with how nuts he is
@@cryguy0000 The game doesn’t really ask him to forgive you, neither does he. Adachi isn’t worth forgiveness, but people still like him.
@@minatoyuki4800 I'd agree, in fact I'd say one of the more compelling parts of Adachi's story in the spinoffs is that he isn't forgiven; he still acts like a dick, but he admits how Yu and the investigation team won out over him.
The "redemption" arc he goes through is based on him coming to understand that if he had lived a bit more like Yu and learned to cherish the bonds he made, he would be much happier. Adachi's problems are rooted in his own actions, and there's no reversing the path he went down.
Good opinions. I would genuinely have loved a gay relationship option with Yusuke in Royal. He makes a better couple with Joker than any of the girls.
Joker gets with every woman he can because he’s in denial about his love for Ryuji and Yusuke
I'm a simple woman with simple needs: Whenever i see my darling artsy boy Yusuke in the S tier and i cheer, then i cheer even more at seing my sweet young man Aki get the same recognition! You sure taste in good (and in these 2 cases: attractive) male characters, i'm glad P3's protagonist is on a high tier too!
*Puts Kanji in S tier*
You have my biggest respect
Door-kun and Akinari are the most sick in the franchise, so sick in fact, that they died.
This tier list is basically perfect especially S tier the 3 best boys
Yosuke is the best bro character
He really did Yosuke dirty.
Aged man social links all the way bois!
But seriously, I would be ready to put Yoshida in S tier. There’s no way you can find a better confidant in P5.
Yoshida is low-key one of the best confidants/SLs in Persona, period
All of Shibuya: *exists*
Kaneshiro: _It's free real estate_
"I'd put her in the same tier as Mitsuru and Naoto somewhere in A tier"
YOU PUT BEST GIRL NAOTO IN A TIER, NOT SS? Irredeemable, actually criminal.
Ryoji Mochizuki only got to B im going to commit a crime
ps of course his relationship with the protag had kinda romantic vibes in the movie, he's not only the protags literal soulmate but also comes out as bi if you romance him in p3p
Joker should get S tier cause he won Evo
Narukami>> joker
@@ram_taka3436 Narukami never won Evo
Joker>>>>>>>>>>Narukami
@@lelouch3666 cause he's not in smash lol
@@ram_taka3436 hes in blazblue crosstag
@@lelouch3666 you aren't wrong about that. But how do you determine that a character is good when they are being used by someone in real life, that Doesent really make sense. I respect mkleo but your point really Doesent stand out to me
As someone with glasses, I don't know how to feel about this.
Now that we have Zenkichi to add onto the "cool older men" pile, I'm really starting to wonder what it is about all the heroic-aligned adult men in this series that makes them all so cool to be around.
I only thought ikutski or whatever his name is was evil because he looked like that one Strega guy and I thought they were the same person.
Ken being in B- hurts and so does Yosuke being in B but I respect it 😔 But at least Yusuke is in S tier, good boy
Puzzling Trash Yosuke should be higher, he is the most relatable character, and he has the best bromance with the protagonist
@@Jfray252 I didn't relate to his perverted stuff but other wise he's a fun character that I'd put in A tier, it's saying something considering I fucking hate his perverted rants...i like being mean to him tho.
That was the best description of Goro's appeal i've ever heard
The best bois and best traitor in S
Thank you
Loving the Tier list, now what would be interesting is ranking All the music from persona 2-5, it would be interesting to see (remixes like the smash one and the dancing games would be cool but ik thats a lot)
Mark is in a tier that cannot be seen by mortals
He's even higher that SSS.
_Junpei more like Stupei amirite_
**Ace Defective**
STUPEI ACE DeFeCTivE
Junpei resents that
Yukari: ...
Mitsuru: Yukari! what's wrong?
Yukari: I don't know... i felt.... a disturbance???????
Yeah, Kamoshida and Madarame are the best villains in P5. Kamoshida is someone I actually want to beat up and Madarame is different in how he’s villainous.
Morgana starts at C for Cat Tier, but then gets bumped up to B for Bus Tier. Then B- for B minUS.
And C Tier ends up being "Needs Glasses to C Tier.
royal really redeems akechi/pancake-kun
Fither praising Yusuke gives me life because Y u s u k e .
The best bro is hands down brosuke
And Ryuji is also amazing
Kaneshiro should be a little higher cuz his place theme is god tier. Only behind Sae’s place theme
SMT! NOW! also thanks for existing fither.
Since you love yusuke all that much you should really read beastars (the anime is good but netflix keeps it in limbo for no reason at all.) Because legosi, the main character, is essentialy yusuke on steroids, a lovable oddball that everytime you see him doing something you can't help but smile, also beastars is a great series as a hole, full of great characters and the society of beastars is preety realistic, like the fact that carnivores can't eat meat because it's extremely ilegal, so they eat stuff that helps suplement meat like beans for iron and carboidrates for that fat they need, and this is only the surface, don't go with the bias many people have of: it's furry shit, then it must be fan service, because it's not.
It's not furry shit or it doesn't have fan service?
@@kuzunohaxiv7912 with the name beastars that's my assumption
@@kuzunohaxiv7912 they're saying it's not just furry bait and nothing else. It's a well written series where the fact characters are animals is really important to the series and not just pure fan service.
I have listened to this as background noise when I'm falling asleep multiple times and I am about to do so once again
In Q2 Liz dresses Theo as a bucket of popcorn for the whole game
I just realized that Mishima is literally the most important character in persona 5
I love this list; my only alterations would be moving Koromaru and P3 Protag into S tier with the rest of the top bois
I love the fact you used Changing Seasons my favorite song from Persona
*puts Kanji in S-tier*
Damn straight son 😎👍
(kinda ironic to say but I don't care)
The 3rd semester goro is A+ their to me
Hey, dont know if you'll see this, but with Royal been out for a year, where do you think Maruki and Sumire would end up on these lists?
you put kanji in s tier. i trust you.
Akinari is an S tier. Best sick Persona boy.
Surprisingly I relate to this tier a lot, especially with Adaji, Iwai, Mishima and Makoto/Minato)
Yusuke in S Tier
Here, A like for you kind sir
I like Noaki, his social link is the first one I ever maxed out, and for some reason I just really like his social link.
Kaneshiro is just Eric Cartman with a knife, but at least Cartman is a little interesting
Hell yeah Akihiko and Yusuke in S tier
Opening my yuskuke nendoroid during this I can confirm he is best boi
Akihiko was personally my favourite boi.
Now you gotta do a persona tier list for each arcana 😉
Always appreciate the wrestling references in these videos.
33:57 Dude my thoughts exactly you could just ‘“feel” the gay vibes from those two ships
*Puts Yusuke at S-Tier*
I see, your are a man of cultur as well.
Also you put the Persona 5 Dads in A+ is great too, I like all three of them.
Bro, Ann in A and ryuji? A fellow man of culture
Ryugi and Ann in D tier👎
Ryugi and Ann in C tier 👎
Ryugi and Ann in B tier 👍👎
Ryugi and Ann in A tier👍
Ryugi and Ann in A+ tier👍👍
Ryugi and Ann in S tier👍👍👍👍👍
I'm late to finding your channel cause I didn't start playing Persona 5 until July 2021, but I mostly agree with this list except for Akechi. Granted this was before Royal so I get it, but I'm curious whether or not your opinion of Akechi has changed since Royal given how much more context he's given in that version of the game.
Which Persona 4 anime did you watch
Yo you did the no good tora video now!!!!
6:02 Naoki's social link is AMAZING! Too bad nobody did it, because they're missing a great realistic story about grieving.
How do you not put Makoto in the cutie pie tier
S tier should’ve been renamed “the emperors ft Adachi”
I hope we see the same lists for mainline smt characters, as well as the other spin-offs like devil survivor. That could be 4 more videos right there.
Yusuke, kanji, and adachi in S tier is all I needed to see
Huh, Thin Lizzy, nice. I'm a fan of "The Sun Goes Down" when it comes to them personally, but "The Boys are Back in Town" is always enjoyable to listen to.
im gonna take this as a powerscaling tierlist
Ok but where does Funky Student rank?
For one that was missing, how would you rank Haru's fiance? Personally, as a villain, I would put him in B tier because, next to Kamoshida, he was one of the other villains (despite him being basically a mini-boss) that I legitimately hated.
Gotta finish that Persona 2 man. So good
where would you place Philemon
Butterfly tier.
save area tier
I will punch him in the face again tier
Agree with everything on this list...except Akechi belongs in S tier.
roro no, adachi is ranked s and he is the best antagonist of all the series, akechi is meh
>Ryoji in B Tier
I accept this.