The cast aluminum flywheel has the full size cooling fins too. It’s a steal for what you get. Thanks so much for doing all of these mods and videos. You are the best small block engine modder and tester on UA-cam.
Another AWESOME video, It is good to see that you hand lap the flywheel on, when done right, you don't even need a keyway, set it with a degree wheel, Torque it down, and you are good to go. keep the vids coming
Those Tillotson cast aluminum flywheels are a great bang for your buck for the quality. Plus someone has spun one up to 10k for a long time privately. The downside is they come with only 18 degrees of advance. Granted even though most cams call for 32 34 a 12* keyway will get you to 30.
Im wanting to buy this for a stock 224 with just a stage 1 kit , 24mm Nibbi carb running 115 jet , but I’m not sure what timing key to get 8? , 10 ? ,12 ?
I'm lost he said in the description he swapped the tilly e flywheel for another one but there's only a link for the cast aluminum because the tilly one says it's rated at 10k rpm like the one in my ducar and the cast one says 8.5k rpm🤔
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 the ones on ebay that are cast aluminum and aren't billet and came stock on the tillotson 212r's. I've ran one for two years its great pulls more air in to cool the motor IMO. they fit anything hemi/gx200 clone. I've been told they are 18* advanced or as much as 25*. Leaving them with stock keyway is fine unless your messing with different fuels thats when you will need more timing. for the money you can't beat them.
That sure is a nicely modified 224. It seems like upgrading the stock flywheels on most of the predators and other clones is a must do for anyone who is going to be removing the governor and plans on running at RPM's. Do you run tachometers on your engines? Your videos are great and really show the viewer what works but I haven't seen any significant problems in any of them yet. Have you experienced any major malfunctions with any of your engines....flywheel throwing magnets, spun bearings, catastrophic engine failures? I would be really interested to hear about those and I think it could be very useful and entertaining for your subscribers. Maybe you could start uploading a compilation video of "mod's gone wrong", defective products, and bloopers once or twice a year, or however long it takes to document enough mishaps to create a video. I think they would get a lot of views and increase the number of subscribers you have. Just a thought...
Thanks. I have had minor mishaps while out filming this stuff. Breaking cameras, someone ran over a camera, Not being able to stop in time at the end of the road, carbs falling off. I have a video on that one. The only major engine failure I have had so far is a valve stem breaking While I was filming a video. I Have a video coming out fixing the engine. I have been so lucky with these engines so far. I know sooner or later one is really going to come apart. It's just a matter of time. I hope I get it on video. Thanks for the suggestions. I think it would be fun putting that stuff together.
The 2 flywheels may have different timing. My stock clone flywheels and PVL flywheel are timed to 28 BTDC. The genuine GX200 cast aluminum flywheel I had was timed at 22 BTDC. The flywheel you have there looks like a copy of the GX200 aluminum. Is it timed the same? Put an ARC flywheel on there and get the timing the same as the 212e flywheel then test it.
Great video. All in the name of R&D Research and Development. Sometimes you have a break thru, sometimes it stays the same.It’s all good. Thanks for sharing with us. Ride fast. Ride safe..
Watched this one hoping you’d mention torque spec on the flywheel. Can only find 54 ft lbs for the steel, and 65 ft lbs for the billet, but nothing on these..
I just want to say that I absolutely enjoy your channel and your builds and camera work and comparing engine builds and upgrades. I watched your last episodes about the ghost engine and the valve springs and fly wheel. My question is would you use 18lb spring or 22lbs without doing internal upgrades inside the engines cause I’m still learning that. Cause doing mods outside the engine I can do .
Where did you get the tillotson 212 ee flywheel? I have been looking for one of these for my 196cc coleman. I was told they handle more rpm than the stock coleman and can still retain the lights
That small of a difference could be explained by temp/air density changes while you were making the swap. It would be interesting to see you retest with more timing advance.
Shouldn’t you set the magnet in the flywheel to the coil before doing the feeler gauge to get the accurate spacing? Or is that magnet recessed level with the flywheel?
Will this fit the duromax 208 boss great video and info btw just wanted to know because I have the 10k rpm flywheel that comes stock from my ducar which I wanna put a billet one on the ducar and then I can run the stock one from the ducar on the duro 208cc u think it will work 💪🏼💯💨💨💨
I did a hydraulic brake install on the CC100x and a couple other bikes. Here is the link for the CC1100x playlist. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/tJeup9bo-wo/v-deo.html
I bought the same flywheel and gapped it at .03. For some reason my bike wont stay running longer than a few seconds. It starts and runs fine then just dies shortly after. Im wondering if my charging magnets inside (which i dont need because im not running a light) is causing this issue
Its made from an old clutch. You pretty much just use the internal part of the clutch that slips over the shaft and drill holes in it so you can run bolts into the side cover. You can buy them from OMB and I think GoPowerSports.
hey black thank you for you're videos they help me a lot with trying to fine tune I was wondering if you knew if that flywheel would fit on a 212 predator
Thank you. It has a clone taper. Some say it wont ,but the seller says they will. I have used them many times on a Predator 212 . I just make sure I lap in the flywheel with valve grinding compound.
Mines on the way. Is it cool if I just put the flywheel on with out the lapping stuff. I forgot to order it in time and really really wanna just put it on when it gets here
Hey I watch all your videos. I have a new header pipe I put on it backfires real bad when I let off the throttle. Will you make a video on how to fix backfire on mini bike?
@Black66 I seen it I have a battery system on my b200r in an amo box with a charging port for my GPS and phone looking for a motor to swap from the stock
Great videos. I have a rt200 its bn hard to decide what to put on the bike. What do you think about viking 223cc hemi head 7 hp electric start engine.? Or what would you recommend me. Thanks again for the videos.
Thanks! Yes, I really like that Viking 223 or even a Predator 224 because it has that 58MM stroke! That will make a big difference on the bigger bikes for pulling torque.
Hey man, love your videos so much quick question I’m trying to carburet my carburetor basically the same one on your engine and the same engine but I can’t seem to carburet it
Lighter flywheel in a car would slow down at the hit because it has less inertia and allows the clutch to pull the motor down, perhaps you are seeing a similar result?
Great video! I would like to get a flywheel ring gear with magnets charging coil for the Coleman BT200X but cannot find one for the Predator 224cc engine. I have not found a cast aluminum flywheel with charging coils, any information on this if a predator 212e flywheel will fit?
@@emmanuelramos4772 If using a stock cam I would use a 10 degree key. With a cam that calls for 32 degree timing I would time it with a degree wheel without a key.
@@emmanuelramos4772 I would use a 10 degree key minimum. The cams I use suggest timing to 32 degrees BTDC. I time my cast aluminum flywheels with a timing wheel and no key. I see someone out there is selling this flywheel but with 28 degree timing. But you are paying $25 more for the extra timing.
I'm confused as to why you took the Tillotson flywheel off (rated at 10,000rpm) to replace with a cheap cast flywheel (rated at 8,000rpm)????!!! And I could be wrong but I think you should've used a #8 flywheel key instead of the #7
No need to be confused . The Tillotson flywheel has glued on magnets ! It is the ONLY flywheel I have had fail on the channel. Check out the MB 200 on the channel . It failed in that video. I will ALWAYS use a solid cast flywheel over the tillotson flywheel. Actually an 8 degree flywheel key or the 7 I used is not enough to get to the optimum advance with the cast wheel . The cast wheel has about 18 to 20 degrees of timing built in. A 12 degree key would get it closer to the optimum 32 degrees advance. A 12 degree key would be more in the ball park. Check out the playlist for more FANTASTIC mini bike content . Thanks for watching !
Thanks for answering and clarification! I have a Tillotson I'm about to build and was going to use the Tillotson flywheel on a predator instead of the Cast I was debating on purchasing. So glad I asked! Again Thanks!!!
@Black66 so I know you're take on the Tillotson flywheel....but is that a 1 time incident or are they known for this? Also....I have another Tillotson that I'm going to leave stock (except for a mikuni 22mm and F&B header) I really want to do a governor delete. Do you think the stock flywheel will do? And will the cast flywheel work with a Tillotson 212e? All the ones I find say for non-hemi TIA
@@mickrussell7198 Anything with a glued on magnet isn't reccomend for high performance use. I have heard of Predator wheels coming apart , never witnessed it myself. For as inexpensive as the 8k cast wheel is , might as well be on the safe side and at least go with that wheel or better yet a billet wheel. There is no way to guareentee that the wheel coming apart is an isolated incident.
@Black66 can you send me a link for a cast flywheel that is compatible with the Tillotson 212e (preferably from Amazon I can't find any) ? All the ones I see say non-hemi. Thanks for the help! LOVE THE CHANNEL!
What valve grinding compound is that? Im gonna do a stage 2 build and i dont have anything i need to to do it so km buying everything i need beforehand
@@Black66did you use the timing key that came with the flywheel ? Because mine from Amazon didn’t sit well so I used the stock but now the bike keeps dieing and won’t start
Hey man cut about 3 coils out of your clutch spring (max torque style clutches) and raise your stall speed ; ) youll be glad u did. note: u may have to grind away about 1/16" off the side edges of your clutch shoes (where they contact each other, not the bell) ... this shrinks the circle down a little so u can fight the spring back in lol .. also has the effect of raising stall speed too, this is 1 reason u wont cut many loops from the spring. Your engine will rev and your clutch will bite like a mean dog! lol
I usually start out with a 120 main or so in a VM22. Jetting is different depending on mods and elevation etc. Look at the plug after riding for w while. If it's got that light tan/grey color it's running good.
I had a fire a few years back lost five of my near and dear Volkswagens and everything in my shop Neighbors playing with illegal fireworks😔 I had a brand new Predator 212 in the Box the block is still good I think it'd be fun if I gave it to you if you put some performance parts on it and see how much the stock flywheel can take till it blows up😂 not with you on a mini bike of course!!!
Same one. It will fit the Ghost . I have also used it on a standard Predator even though it has a clone taper. You just have to make sure you lap the flywheel in.
The cast aluminum flywheel has the full size cooling fins too. It’s a steal for what you get.
Thanks so much for doing all of these mods and videos.
You are the best small block engine modder and tester on UA-cam.
Thanks!!
Does it fit gx200/clone ??
@@jokerrr14 Yes
to bad this flywheel will limit you to 6685 rpm
@@topmfg5505 why?
Dude those drive byes with the camera cracked me up everytime 🤣
Another AWESOME video, It is good to see that you hand lap the flywheel on, when done right, you don't even need a keyway, set it with a degree wheel, Torque it down, and you are good to go. keep the vids coming
Thank you!
I dig your videos, simple not over produce, GREAT info, just like UA-cam used to be.
Thank you!
Also that cast aluminum flywheels probably the cheaper alternative for people who don't wanna spend the money on the ARC but need the Safety of it
Yes! for sure.
I heard a heavy flywheel actually helps top speed sometimes..
@@TheKiddOnDrumscentrifugal
Those Tillotson cast aluminum flywheels are a great bang for your buck for the quality. Plus someone has spun one up to 10k for a long time privately. The downside is they come with only 18 degrees of advance. Granted even though most cams call for 32 34 a 12* keyway will get you to 30.
Im wanting to buy this for a stock 224 with just a stage 1 kit , 24mm Nibbi carb running 115 jet , but I’m not sure what timing key to get 8? , 10 ? ,12 ?
115 jet u need 120 or 130 let it sing@@emmanuelramos4772
I'm lost he said in the description he swapped the tilly e flywheel for another one but there's only a link for the cast aluminum because the tilly one says it's rated at 10k rpm like the one in my ducar and the cast one says 8.5k rpm🤔
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 the ones on ebay that are cast aluminum and aren't billet and came stock on the tillotson 212r's. I've ran one for two years its great pulls more air in to cool the motor IMO. they fit anything hemi/gx200 clone. I've been told they are 18* advanced or as much as 25*. Leaving them with stock keyway is fine unless your messing with different fuels thats when you will need more timing. for the money you can't beat them.
@ephenj got one on my ducar it comes stock on there 3years strong and still going
That sure is a nicely modified 224. It seems like upgrading the stock flywheels on most of the predators and other clones is a must do for anyone who is going to be removing the governor and plans on running at RPM's. Do you run tachometers on your engines? Your videos are great and really show the viewer what works but I haven't seen any significant problems in any of them yet. Have you experienced any major malfunctions with any of your engines....flywheel throwing magnets, spun bearings, catastrophic engine failures? I would be really interested to hear about those and I think it could be very useful and entertaining for your subscribers. Maybe you could start uploading a compilation video of "mod's gone wrong", defective products, and bloopers once or twice a year, or however long it takes to document enough mishaps to create a video. I think they would get a lot of views and increase the number of subscribers you have. Just a thought...
Thanks. I have had minor mishaps while out filming this stuff. Breaking cameras, someone ran over a camera, Not being able to stop in time at the end of the road, carbs falling off. I have a video on that one. The only major engine failure I have had so far is a valve stem breaking While I was filming a video. I Have a video coming out fixing the engine. I have been so lucky with these engines so far. I know sooner or later one is really going to come apart. It's just a matter of time. I hope I get it on video. Thanks for the suggestions. I think it would be fun putting that stuff together.
I have an important question: Would you still be able to run the coils for a headlight output with this flywheel?
Not with this flywheel but I have a solution to that. Check out this video. ua-cam.com/video/75arrzEwOvc/v-deo.html
The 2 flywheels may have different timing. My stock clone flywheels and PVL flywheel are timed to 28 BTDC. The genuine GX200 cast aluminum flywheel I had was timed at 22 BTDC. The flywheel you have there looks like a copy of the GX200 aluminum. Is it timed the same?
Put an ARC flywheel on there and get the timing the same as the 212e flywheel then test it.
"Put an ARC flywheel on there"
Nothing like missing the point of the video rofl.
Great video. All in the name of R&D
Research and Development. Sometimes you have a break thru, sometimes it stays the same.It’s all good. Thanks for sharing with us.
Ride fast. Ride safe..
Where can I find that crankshaft locking tool?
GoPowerSports has them on their web site
What exactly is it called on their website
Link for the flywheel is in the description of the video @@justinjohnson1813
Watched this one hoping you’d mention torque spec on the flywheel. Can only find 54 ft lbs for the steel, and 65 ft lbs for the billet, but nothing on these..
The flywheel has a timing of 18 degrees, they recommend a 12 degree timing key.
Yes, check out the other 224 videos, I advance the iming.
Where are those videos ?
@@STLWILDONE In the 224 playlist and other playlist on the channel.
I've looked and it's not listed
@@STLWILDONE Advancing the timing is in multiple videos., its just not listed in the title of the videos.
I just want to say that I absolutely enjoy your channel and your builds and camera work and comparing engine builds and upgrades. I watched your last episodes about the ghost engine and the valve springs and fly wheel. My question is would you use 18lb spring or 22lbs without doing internal upgrades inside the engines cause I’m still learning that. Cause doing mods outside the engine I can do .
Thanks!! I have a video coming out on this.
Ok awesome I can’t wait to see it ! I’m really considering your set up on my little mega moto. I appreciate you replying back!
Still very impressive numbers. and now the safety is there. I run the same flywheel on one of my predators.Once again thanks for all the info
does that flywheel fit on a predator 212?
@@lbnick3388 yes
@@lbnick3388 Does not fit the Predator hemi.
Do u still run that flywheel I want it just worried since it’s cheaper it’ll blow my leg off
@@SLOW_CSI'm wondering the same thing
Do you think moving the coil outwards with shims to center it over the magnet would help?
Believe it or not I was looking on Amazon for similar flywheels to this and they used a photo from your video to show its use 😂
Oh sweet! 😃
Where did you get the tillotson 212 ee flywheel? I have been looking for one of these for my 196cc coleman. I was told they handle more rpm than the stock coleman and can still retain the lights
I got the 212e flywheel off of my 212e. Maybe you could grab one off off the Tillotson web site, Not sure. Or Maybe GPS could order one for you.
It even sounded stronger with the previous flywheel. I wonder what the 0-60 difference was. Too bad that app doesn't have RPM.
224 definitely the best sounding predator engine
That small of a difference could be explained by temp/air density changes while you were making the swap. It would be interesting to see you retest with more timing advance.
I'm thinking it was timing because this wheel only has about 18 degrees or so built in.
@@Black66 can we get a retest with a 12 degree timing key please
Yes, I have been meaning to do another timing video. @@dirty_bob477
Love ur vids learn lots from them thanks
What’s that spray that you used to clean the flywheel with?
Shouldn’t you set the magnet in the flywheel to the coil before doing the feeler gauge to get the accurate spacing? Or is that magnet recessed level with the flywheel?
Will this fit the duromax 208 boss great video and info btw just wanted to know because I have the 10k rpm flywheel that comes stock from my ducar which I wanna put a billet one on the ducar and then I can run the stock one from the ducar on the duro 208cc u think it will work 💪🏼💯💨💨💨
Hey black 66 how did the clear valve cover hold up?
How much foot pounds did you torque it too?
Wondering the same thing
Could you maybe do an in depth video on hydraulic brake installation? I cany quite get mine right and no videos i watch seem to offer much help
I did a hydraulic brake install on the CC100x and a couple other bikes. Here is the link for the CC1100x playlist. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/tJeup9bo-wo/v-deo.html
Good video, that cast flywheel seems to be a much better fit for that Predator 224. :)
I bought the same flywheel and gapped it at .03. For some reason my bike wont stay running longer than a few seconds. It starts and runs fine then just dies shortly after. Im wondering if my charging magnets inside (which i dont need because im not running a light) is causing this issue
And what do you think about a .265 fire cam from go power sports with 26lb springs and a .010 head gasket? I'm putting it in my off road go kart.
Great cam!
Do you think that combo would work well on an off-road go kart or should I jus go with the hot cam
Will the flywheel work on a hemi engine? And is your engine the hemi or non-hemi version?
No it won’t
Can you make a video how you make the crankshaft holding tool
Its made from an old clutch. You pretty much just use the internal part of the clutch that slips over the shaft and drill holes in it so you can run bolts into the side cover. You can buy them from OMB and I think GoPowerSports.
hey black thank you for you're videos they help me a lot with trying to fine tune I was wondering if you knew if that flywheel would fit on a 212 predator
Thank you. It has a clone taper. Some say it wont ,but the seller says they will. I have used them many times on a Predator 212 . I just make sure I lap in the flywheel with valve grinding compound.
What crank holding tool did you use?
I made it out of an old clutch
Mines on the way. Is it cool if I just put the flywheel on with out the lapping stuff. I forgot to order it in time and really really wanna just put it on when it gets here
how’d it go
Love the videos! I watch all ove them at least 10 times 👍👍👍👍
Curios if you take a few fins off of it ?
Can you street ride with this fly wheel
Hey I watch all your videos. I have a new header pipe I put on it backfires real bad when I let off the throttle. Will you make a video on how to fix backfire on mini bike?
What degree of timing did you use ?
I have so many videos in these playlist , Over 400 videos on the channel so far its hard to remember a given video.
Timing could be a bit different between the 2 flywheels. Could be messing with your time trials.
Craving more 224 how to videos!!!
Well you are the guy with all the money 💰💰💰💰
Haters gotta hate
@@mc4492 I don't hate.
@@mc4492 I like what he has to say I just done have that parts access like black66 does. That's all.
Does that flywheel work with the charging coils too I want to keep the charging system
No, but I have a a few videos on an alternative lighting system ua-cam.com/video/75arrzEwOvc/v-deo.html
@Black66 I seen it I have a battery system on my b200r in an amo box with a charging port for my GPS and phone looking for a motor to swap from the stock
Cool vid how much lbs do u torque the flywheel to
Looking for the same info
@@TheKiddOnDrums I used one of these recently and torqued it down to 65 ft/lbs.
Great videos. I have a rt200 its bn hard to decide what to put on the bike. What do you think about viking 223cc hemi head 7 hp electric start engine.? Or what would you recommend me. Thanks again for the videos.
Thanks! Yes, I really like that Viking 223 or even a Predator 224 because it has that 58MM stroke! That will make a big difference on the bigger bikes for pulling torque.
Would the cast aluminum 212 flywheel fit on a 212 ghost
The Ghost crankshaft has a clone taper. Any clone (196) flywheel will fit.
Can you please do one for predator 301
Big block videos coming out soon. I have a 420 video coming out this Wednesday.
@ awesome
Where do you get the crank holder tool? Thanks
Made it from an old clutch.
Is this safer than cast iron ?
Wassup, I order a banzai 265 camm and 26 lb springs, billet rod and the flywheel you have on your 224 for my 224 and I am building it rn!
Hi, where can i contact you about the product sponsorship?
Is there room for a charging system with this flywheel?
No, it doesn't have the magnets for the charging coils.
Hey man, love your videos so much quick question I’m trying to carburet my carburetor basically the same one on your engine and the same engine but I can’t seem to carburet it
Lighter flywheel in a car would slow down at the hit because it has less inertia and allows the clutch to pull the motor down, perhaps you are seeing a similar result?
Great video! I would like to get a flywheel ring gear with magnets charging coil for the Coleman BT200X but cannot find one for the Predator 224cc engine. I have not found a cast aluminum flywheel with charging coils, any information on this if a predator 212e flywheel will fit?
How much did you torque the flywheel to ?
Same as the stock flywheel because its not billet.
Will this flywheel fit a predator 212 non hemi?...new to all this...
I bet that the timing is a bit off. In theory, it should be noticeably faster on acceleration and a slightly higher top speed.
The timing is way off. Studz racing says it's timed to 18 BTDC. A 7 degree key would take it to only 25 BTDC.
@@Deucealive75would would you recommend a 7 key way ?
@@emmanuelramos4772 If using a stock cam I would use a 10 degree key. With a cam that calls for 32 degree timing I would time it with a degree wheel without a key.
@@emmanuelramos4772 I would run no less than a 10 degree key. I time mine without a key.
@@emmanuelramos4772 I would use a 10 degree key minimum. The cams I use suggest timing to 32 degrees BTDC. I time my cast aluminum flywheels with a timing wheel and no key.
I see someone out there is selling this flywheel but with 28 degree timing. But you are paying $25 more for the extra timing.
Where did you buy the crank holding tool ?
I made it. They have them at GPS
Why do you need to hold the crank down?
I need some help .. will a 224 block accept a metal 212 cam from a non hemi? Trying to get rid of the plastic gear
You need a cam from a hemi Predator. It has .550 cam mains. The standard Predator has .558 mains. They are too big for the 224.
@@Black66 thanks I ordered one.
I hope this isn't a stupid question?
But how does the motor run with a billet fly wheel with no ability to send power to the spark plug?
The megnets built into the flywheel interact with the device at 6:30 to produce a spark. Its some electromagnet science stuff
I'm confused as to why you took the Tillotson flywheel off (rated at 10,000rpm) to replace with a cheap cast flywheel (rated at 8,000rpm)????!!! And I could be wrong but I think you should've used a #8 flywheel key instead of the #7
No need to be confused . The Tillotson flywheel has glued on magnets ! It is the ONLY flywheel I have had fail on the channel. Check out the MB 200 on the channel . It failed in that video.
I will ALWAYS use a solid cast flywheel over the tillotson flywheel.
Actually an 8 degree flywheel key or the 7 I used is not enough to get to the optimum advance with the cast wheel . The cast wheel has about 18 to 20 degrees of timing built in. A 12 degree key would get it closer to the optimum 32 degrees advance.
A 12 degree key would be more in the ball park. Check out the playlist for more FANTASTIC mini bike content . Thanks for watching !
Thanks for answering and clarification! I have a Tillotson I'm about to build and was going to use the Tillotson flywheel on a predator instead of the Cast I was debating on purchasing. So glad I asked! Again Thanks!!!
@Black66 so I know you're take on the Tillotson flywheel....but is that a 1 time incident or are they known for this?
Also....I have another Tillotson that I'm going to leave stock (except for a mikuni 22mm and F&B header) I really want to do a governor delete. Do you think the stock flywheel will do? And will the cast flywheel work with a Tillotson 212e? All the ones I find say for non-hemi
TIA
@@mickrussell7198 Anything with a glued on magnet isn't reccomend for high performance use. I have heard of Predator wheels coming apart , never witnessed it myself.
For as inexpensive as the 8k cast wheel is , might as well be on the safe side and at least go with that wheel or better yet a billet wheel.
There is no way to guareentee that the wheel coming apart is an isolated incident.
@Black66 can you send me a link for a cast flywheel that is compatible with the Tillotson 212e (preferably from Amazon I can't find any) ? All the ones I see say non-hemi.
Thanks for the help! LOVE THE CHANNEL!
What valve grinding compound is that? Im gonna do a stage 2 build and i dont have anything i need to to do it so km buying everything i need beforehand
What do you do with all of those mini bikes?
I sell some from time to time. I probably will give some away on the channel at some point.
@@Black66
WooHoo
Can you retain your charging system with this flywheel? I need the lights for a motorized bike build
No, it doesn't have the magnets.
@@Black66 ty for responding but.guess I'm gonna run a battery bank bc high rpm is a must so I need the billet flywheel.
Insane I love it
Can you retain the charging system with that flywheel?
Would a stock cam work with that flywheel
Definitely doing this on my 224. So much cheaper than an ARC!
Use a flywheel key with this wheel to get it closer to the stock timing. They come with about 18 degress timing.
@@Black66did you use the timing key that came with the flywheel ? Because mine from Amazon didn’t sit well so I used the stock but now the bike keeps dieing and won’t start
@@SebastienRebeiz-g1w this flywheel only has about 18 degrees timing. It needs a key or the timing advanced to at least 24 degrees or more
Is this flywheel safe? For high speed runs ?
It's rated for 10k RPM. Not as good a billet flywheel but it is better than the stock flywheel IMO.
Favorite style. I want to build one of these
What app you use for to know the mph
I use a Dragy performance meter. I also use digiHUD on the phone.
Very good test , Black66
I like your minibike stand, I'm an old. Master mechanic loves all machines minibike or hit and miss engines
Whats the crank hold tool and where can I get one?
The crank hold-down tool I use in the videos is made from an old clutch. GoPowerSports has a crank-holding tool.
Let me suggest you get a cvt 30 clutch. The vevor brand comes with the good belt.
Does it make your bike shake on acceleration
Could I use this on a 212 non hemi thanks in advance
question i see on omb that new rocker arms are about 200 bucks is it worth it and are there any cheaper options?
If you want a solid 1 to 1 ratio set of rockers, I would go with a set of Champion style shaft mounted rockers for around $25
whats that exhaust you have and where can i purchase it?
Center exhaust from GoPowerSports
@@Black66 its for the 224 right i only see one on go power sports but it says 212 i dont want to get the wrong one by accident
When you torqued the flywheel down, what lb did you use?
50lb
@@buddahmayne9273 I doubt that he used only 50 ft/lbs. I use 65 ft/lbs for these cast aluminum flywheels.
How much tourqe do you need to tighten it
About the same as a stock Predator wheel.
@@Black66 thanks
Just installed a aluminum flywheel on my predator 212cc
Hey man cut about 3 coils out of your clutch spring (max torque style clutches) and raise your stall speed ; )
youll be glad u did.
note: u may have to grind away about 1/16" off the side edges of your clutch shoes (where they contact each other, not the bell) ... this shrinks the circle down a little so u can fight the spring back in lol .. also has the effect of raising stall speed too, this is 1 reason u wont cut many loops from the spring.
Your engine will rev and your clutch will bite like a mean dog! lol
Hey, I have a 224 Predator, 26 lbs springs, billet rod and flywheel. Wha jets should I use in my carb
I usually start out with a 120 main or so in a VM22. Jetting is different depending on mods and elevation etc. Look at the plug after riding for w while. If it's got that light tan/grey color it's running good.
What’s the purpose of lapping the flywheel? I know you lap valves but that’s so they seat correctly.
Same reason I’m guessing. Maybe flywheel didn’t sit right
With those results I'm glad you did the test. 0+0=0
What degree key was that you used?
I think he said 7°
What about a gap for a 196cc Coleman ct200U ex coil cap ?
what clutch was used in this vid
Will this fit the 212cc predator non hemi ?
I have used it on a non Hemi with some lapping. Check the link in the description for the applications.
@@Black66 what’s that for ?
Will this flywheel fit a 212 predator?
Yes, it has a clone taper but I have use it on a 212 without a problem as long as you lap it in.
@@Black66 Thank you.
I had a fire a few years back lost five of my near and dear Volkswagens and everything in my shop Neighbors playing with illegal fireworks😔 I had a brand new Predator 212 in the Box the block is still good I think it'd be fun if I gave it to you if you put some performance parts on it and see how much the stock flywheel can take till it blows up😂 not with you on a mini bike of course!!!
Actually , I would like to test that lol.
Now that would be a video to see!!
Yes it would be a video to see.
I bought this same wheel and it doesnt fit on my predator 212 it just gets stuck halfway?
These wheels have a clone taper .
@@Black66 so i need to get one that doesnt have a clone taper? Do you know any wheels that would work with mine?
Imma get one and remove the governor
Does that flywheel fit a gx200 clone ??
Yes. The 224's crankshaft has a clone taper.
196cc stock Coleman?
@@4.6slidez Yes it fits on all 196's.
@Kurt Yes will fit GX160.
Okay thanks guys ima order mine now
which pvl flywheel fits predator ghost
Same one. It will fit the Ghost . I have also used it on a standard Predator even though it has a clone taper. You just have to make sure you lap the flywheel in.
@@Black66 thank you
My shakes bad could it be cause it's not torqued down?