Im buying solely because of Dean's Vids. He is an excellent salesman, He has the voice , the look , the whole package.. Dean would be doing him a disservice if he doesnt get into TV sales like QVC or some you tube ads etc. Im a day trader, but If I was a small Bizz owner I would def be reaching out to Dean to see if he is for hire to advertise my brand lol...Tell me you cant see Dean selling you a Onesie at 3am on QVC?..He is really good.
I have A-D-D 😂 and most videos do not keep my attention at all. But when I watch Dean’s video tours, I get so excited and even laugh, especially when he talks about his Pringles diet. His excitement and energy in his tours is phenomenal. He sold me for sure. When I buy my Unity Rear Murphy bed, I must get a picture with Dean to display in my coach. Dean is great!!! Two year project? I want mine this year.
That was so informative, thank you. After our inspector found so much wrong with our Tiffin Wayfarer, Vogt let us out of our purchase order and we are waiting for our Wonder RTB. We should have gone LTV from the start. You live, you learn. Thanks again.
Great video. My UTB is supposed to start build Oct. 26 🤞🤞 I ordered end of May 2021 from Vogt’s sister dealership Leisure RV Center in Willis, TX. I also left you my email for when skylight covers are in.
Brandon, great interview, the wonder mbl was most likely planned to replace wonder mb last year, but Covid lockdown put kibosh on the schedule. I am eager to walk thru a wonder mbl sometime next year at a dealership, and if satisfied I will be putting down a deposit.
Great interview, hope to see Dean at the Portland show. I liked your recommendation about fueling at truck stops. I own a diesel BMW 328d small sport wagon (and have owned a number of them since 2014). Sometimes the only option is a truck stop, or the truck stop part of a gas station to fuel up. I always get a kick from the truck drivers who stare at me, or better yet ask me about what my mileage is. Haven't had anyone tell me I am using the wrong fuel though, ha!
A returning subscriber to your channel. I enjoyed hearing your podcast with Dean on the new MBL build, and I'd like to know if LTV will be offering an AWD with the new I4/9SP engine. Love your detailed description of this brand. Keep up the great work!
Great interview! Excited to see what’s up and coming. If anyone wants to come to the Tampa show, I’ve created an LTV group. If we have at least 8 we can all be parked together. You’ll see the event in the enthusiast group thread. So excited about the show. Can’t wait to see all of the new rigs!
Brandon you and Dean did a nice job…I just dont really see it as a new floor plan more of a tweak to the MB. Some of the features are upgrades however I was hoping for something entirely new. LTV makes a good product
Big changes can turn off a lot of customers, one that just did a pretty drastic change was the coachmen concord, it was offline for 2 years and just came back out very different, has a king bed and a dishwasher but the kitchen counter in the unity is bigger etc
I’ve been dreaming of owning a Unity 24MB with a sofa in light colors. I like the new window in living area. What if a tv and microwave are not desired? I’d prefer the tv area be used for a desk. Is there a spot where a kitty area for litter box could be added with access to clean from outside. I’ve loved the Unity 24MB since 2010. I’ve followed your videos every year. I pray my dream will become a reality. I’d love to come to your facility. Dean you are the best for showing all the great features on this beautiful RV. Blessings to all who work hard in making a quality RV. For me it would be my home for me and my cat Sam while traveling and enjoying photography. ❤
There would be no option for outdoor litter box cleaning, as the outside bays are below floor level. Check out the Fit RV channel as they did a mod for their litter box in their Winnebago EKKO
I am definitely getting one of these Class B+, my only doubt is getting a unit with the slide out or not. I really like the 2023 model with the twin bed. It looks spacious, you can turn the twin bed into a full bed and you have 2 large windows with 2 large sofas. if I do one with a slide out, it will definitely be the MBL.
Having been in several twin beds models, spacious is not a term that I would use. Actually pretty cramped. Our FX with slide out is the most spacious, so if you get a chance to walk through some it would help with your decision
I finally got to step into my first Unity MB and Wonder TB 2022 this weekend and being 6’4” the Unity appears to be my only option for height reasons. 😂 #TallPeopleProblems. I can see if the solar panels need to be cleaned by standing up in the MB’s shower.
Brandon, Great video. Our FX goes into production next April, fingers crossed, and we, like you, love the MBL and want to wait for production into the FX. Should we wait and what does your gut tell you?? Dean seemed a bit vague about implementation. Love your thoughts. Mike
They are still tweaking the design, so not sure if it will be ready for FX by then. They will also probably get through all of their inventory of parts for the Fx system before they switch. Be interesting to see when for sure the FX gets new system.
Thinking about if my ‘23 MB w/ Leisure Lounge package is going to be an MBL. nobody seems to agree. (Note: I did a dealer order take over that was placed in Jan ‘21 for a ‘23 MB w/ the leisure lounge upgrade.) Any ideas?
A dealership in PA wants $ 5000 add on premium for taking on an inbound that a family had to opt out on . The $5000 was for nothing. I’m looking at used
@@Pagosa Fretz dealership in Pa is ,so irritating ,and arrogant . I called talked to a salesperson,and a couple had canceled their order I was ,so happy it was specked out exactly how we wanted ,and only a year wait . They wanted $10,000 over MSRP , because maybe they could get $20,000 over at the up coming shows he said , but would do only $5000 over MSRP that day plus $4500.00 for preparation ,and destination fee . He said I have to pay for a commodity like that. I was ready to pay MSRP PLUS normal fees ,and wait a year and pay my down payment. I really don’t like gougers ,and won’t work with a business that does that .
It was like he said they already took $5000 off their normal gouge , so $5000 over or nothing here for you . I’m trying to find a nice gently used Wonder from a nice American.
2020 - 2023 used are out there, Have you joined the "leisure travel vans for sale" group on facebook? Also check out RV Trader, as I've seen more pop up there as well. The dealers are going to take advantage of you for the time being, and some people pay the premium, but I would just advise the used route for sure. @@conniehoyle2669
@@Pagosa I found a nice well taken care of wonder . 2020 20,000 miles ,but very well taken care of . They are taking delivery of the new wonder with the slide . I figured it saved me 60 ,so I’ll see if we like this one ,and if so we will order another next year . I could find great deals on the unity . We do not want that Benz again maintenance is so freaking high ,and diesel doesn’t seem to be coming down with that freak shit show in the WH . I can’t help ,but say that. We are buying camper’s they might stop us driving.
It'll take a serious chunk out of the ccc. Best way would be to make a legit 4 season rig out of an AWD, triple E knows how because they use to make them
@@Pagosa Like I said, why advertise something that is not available, people don't care what the production issues are, they just get annoyed and buy something else, not good customer relations! Sorry to vent, not your fault, pas on to manufacturer would you, thanks
Actually, I don't think it's as much Ford vs. Mercedes as it is diesel vs. gasoline. If a prospective customer sees that you have their preferred floor plan on a Mercedes chassis but not on their preferred Ford chassis, then you could lose that customer altogether. However, if you have their preferred floor plan on both the Ford AND Mercedes, you have a much better chance of making that sale and making the competition a little less wealthy and popular. For example, if a customer doesn't like the fact that diesel fuel is less available than gasoline, compounded by the less availability of DEF and having to put the DEF in and remembering to do so (as if there weren't enough to remember with these RVs), and you don't have an equivalent gasoline option, then you've lost another customer. That's why I'll go out on a limb and say Mercedes will switch to gasoline and if not, Ford will eventually win this war. As far as the war between fossil fuel and electric, are there any plans for the obvious alternative: hybrid? By-the-way, Dean is not only highly informative, he's also VERY funny. I just hope he goes back on that Jenny Craig diet!
Yes, I have only filled propane once in 2.5 years even camping in colder weather and using the furnace. So hot water and occasionally the stove and furnace. If you have a propane generator, that's a different story.
I went from 80% propane to 60% from 2-14 Jun. This included every night hooked up to electricity. I do not see how you lasted that long unless you didn’t go anywhere. Will see what cooler weather and a bunch of boondocking brings starting this Fri.
Note: British imperial gallons are bigger than US gallons, quite a bit bigger - so you can't directly compare MPGs (But yes gas prices are in a different league too of course).
@@Pagosa European cars are indeed more efficient - smaller & lighter and perhaps a little more focused on MPG trade offs (for obvious reasons). I was driving an economy car in the UK just last week - and honestly in mixed usage its more like ~50MPG typically - not 70MPG, I think you were exaggerating a bit there ;). Imperial gallons are 20% bigger by volume. So that is equivalent to about 40MPG in US gallons - so clearly better but not hugely so for the same kind of car.
@@alanmoore2197 not an exaggeration (minus the gallon differential). You need a diesel to see 70, so 50+ US. So rent a Fiat 500D or similar next time and enjoy the savings.
@@Pagosa I was talking about gas cars since diesel compact cars are certainly not common here. Yes diesel can indeed get to ~70MPG but that's a bit apples & oranges to me.
Leisure Travel Van Essentials: pagosasupply.co/gear-suggestions
One of the most informative Leisure Van information videos, thanks for posting.
So glad you enjoyed it
Love the way the new model of MB looks and a larger bathroom sounds great.
I like them as well
Im buying solely because of Dean's Vids. He is an excellent salesman, He has the voice , the look , the whole package.. Dean would be doing him a disservice if he doesnt get into TV sales like QVC or some you tube ads etc. Im a day trader, but If I was a small Bizz owner I would def be reaching out to Dean to see if he is for hire to advertise my brand lol...Tell me you cant see Dean selling you a Onesie at 3am on QVC?..He is really good.
Haha, I'll share that with him
You’re a star, Dean!!! 🎉🎉
He is, isn't he
I have A-D-D 😂 and most videos do not keep my attention at all. But when I watch Dean’s video tours, I get so excited and even laugh, especially when he talks about his Pringles diet. His excitement and energy in his tours is phenomenal. He sold me for sure. When I buy my Unity Rear Murphy bed, I must get a picture with Dean to display in my coach. Dean is great!!! Two year project? I want mine this year.
Dean's awesome
Yup. Trust is a huge thing. The factory tour video with Dean was very reassuring.
Great company for sure
That was so informative, thank you. After our inspector found so much wrong with our Tiffin Wayfarer, Vogt let us out of our purchase order and we are waiting for our Wonder RTB. We should have gone LTV from the start. You live, you learn. Thanks again.
Wow, sorry to hear about that, but thank goodness you got out of it.
These are great videos. Very helpful. Dean is an excellent asset to his company. Go Canada!!! 😂
We agree!
Hey Dean you the man buddy I love your energy
He’s great
Updated our Wonder RL order to the this new floor plan. Excited to see what's instore for the production model. Thanks for the video Brandon.
You bet!
Very nice, learned alot, thanks guys
Our pleasure!
This has been a great video. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great down to earth conversion!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great information, looking to buy a MBL. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I really like the island bed model.
Yes, too bad it's discontinued.
Great video. My UTB is supposed to start build Oct. 26 🤞🤞 I ordered end of May 2021 from Vogt’s sister dealership Leisure RV Center in Willis, TX. I also left you my email for when skylight covers are in.
Awesome, soon!
Brandon, great interview, the wonder mbl was most likely planned to replace wonder mb last year, but Covid lockdown put kibosh on the schedule. I am eager to walk thru a wonder mbl sometime next year at a dealership, and if satisfied I will be putting down a deposit.
I am looking forward to seeing one in person as well. Could be our next Unity!
Great interview, hope to see Dean at the Portland show.
I liked your recommendation about fueling at truck stops. I own a diesel BMW 328d small sport wagon (and have owned a number of them since 2014). Sometimes the only option is a truck stop, or the truck stop part of a gas station to fuel up. I always get a kick from the truck drivers who stare at me, or better yet ask me about what my mileage is. Haven't had anyone tell me I am using the wrong fuel though, ha!
That would be a sight!
I wish the UMB had the WTB Pass trhu Garage. Then it would be perfect for me! :)
in the RV world, it's definitely a give and take
A returning subscriber to your channel. I enjoyed hearing your podcast with Dean on the new MBL build, and I'd like to know if LTV will be offering an AWD with the new I4/9SP engine. Love your detailed description of this brand. Keep up the great work!
I have not heard about AWD in the new MB engine yet, but will report as soon as I find out
Great interview! Excited to see what’s up and coming.
If anyone wants to come to the Tampa show, I’ve created an LTV group. If we have at least 8 we can all be parked together. You’ll see the event in the enthusiast group thread. So excited about the show. Can’t wait to see all of the new rigs!
That's awesome!
Brandon you and Dean did a nice job…I just dont really see it as a new floor plan more of a tweak to the MB. Some of the features are upgrades however I was hoping for something entirely new. LTV makes a good product
Definitely an upgrade to the MB in my opinion. Curious to see what they come up with once a brand new floor plan is designed.
Big changes can turn off a lot of customers, one that just did a pretty drastic change was the coachmen concord, it was offline for 2 years and just came back out very different, has a king bed and a dishwasher but the kitchen counter in the unity is bigger etc
I’ve been dreaming of owning a Unity 24MB with a sofa in light colors. I like the new window in living area. What if a tv and microwave are not desired? I’d prefer the tv area be used for a desk. Is there a spot where a kitty area for litter box could be added with access to clean from outside. I’ve loved the Unity 24MB since 2010. I’ve followed your videos every year. I pray my dream will become a reality. I’d love to come to your facility. Dean you are the best for showing all the great features on this beautiful RV. Blessings to all who work hard in making a quality RV. For me it would be my home for me and my cat Sam while traveling and enjoying photography. ❤
There would be no option for outdoor litter box cleaning, as the outside bays are below floor level. Check out the Fit RV channel as they did a mod for their litter box in their Winnebago EKKO
I am definitely getting one of these Class B+, my only doubt is getting a unit with the slide out or not. I really like the 2023 model with the twin bed. It looks spacious, you can turn the twin bed into a full bed and you have 2 large windows with 2 large sofas. if I do one with a slide out, it will definitely be the MBL.
Having been in several twin beds models, spacious is not a term that I would use. Actually pretty cramped. Our FX with slide out is the most spacious, so if you get a chance to walk through some it would help with your decision
Write the customer experience book Dean!
He should!
Do a compressor fridge and eliminate the need for leveling jacks.
Agree about the compressor fridge, not sure there is a way to eliminate leveling jacks if you want auto leveling.
@@Pagosa was not meant as a question. The fridge is the only reason why you must level a coach, apart from slide considerations.
@@arisdaddy2001 oh, misread. Still would want leveling jacks though. I do it for comfort, not the fridge.
🤏🤏🤏 we are this close to ordering our Unity Mbl... love your videos. So informative ! 😊
Glad it's helpful!
Wow 320 unit backlog that will take some time to get through. Heard each coach takes 6-8 weeks to build.
Hopefully getting better
I finally got to step into my first Unity MB and Wonder TB 2022 this weekend and being 6’4” the Unity appears to be my only option for height reasons. 😂 #TallPeopleProblems. I can see if the solar panels need to be cleaned by standing up in the MB’s shower.
Yes, Unity for sure
Brandon,
Great video. Our FX goes into production next April, fingers crossed, and we, like you, love the MBL and want to wait for production into the FX. Should we wait and what does your gut tell you?? Dean seemed a bit vague about implementation. Love your thoughts.
Mike
They are still tweaking the design, so not sure if it will be ready for FX by then. They will also probably get through all of their inventory of parts for the Fx system before they switch. Be interesting to see when for sure the FX gets new system.
The thing is... the bottom line , we like those nice Canadians and we trust this company.
They are great folks
So they wanted another Wonder floorplan - they should have just added the CB with dinette on the Wonder!
The corner bed is one of their most least popular floorpans, so I'm sure they wanted to make a more popular floor plan in the Wonder.
Thinking about if my ‘23 MB w/ Leisure Lounge package is going to be an MBL. nobody seems to agree. (Note: I did a dealer order take over that was placed in Jan ‘21 for a ‘23 MB w/ the leisure lounge upgrade.) Any ideas?
According to Dean, it won't be. MBL is different than MB, but I bet you could switch over to MBL if you wanted to
Just order one…14 months away.
It will probably be over 2 years to get it. They so far behind.
I WISH. 18 months and still waiting on my RL
Fingers crossed
@@Pagosa good thing is they allow you to choose the latest model. Life is short....we need to get it ASAP and start the trip!
A dealership in PA wants $ 5000 add on premium for taking on an inbound that a family had to opt out on . The $5000 was for nothing. I’m looking at used
I would 100% look at used right now because of wait times and premiums
@@Pagosa Fretz dealership in Pa is ,so irritating ,and arrogant . I called talked to a salesperson,and a couple had canceled their order I was ,so happy it was specked out exactly how we wanted ,and only a year wait . They wanted $10,000 over MSRP , because maybe they could get $20,000 over at the up coming shows he said , but would do only $5000 over MSRP that day plus $4500.00 for preparation ,and destination fee . He said I have to pay for a commodity like that. I was ready to pay MSRP PLUS normal fees ,and wait a year and pay my down payment. I really don’t like gougers ,and won’t work with a business that does that .
It was like he said they already took $5000 off their normal gouge , so $5000 over or nothing here for you . I’m trying to find a nice gently used Wonder from a nice American.
2020 - 2023 used are out there, Have you joined the "leisure travel vans for sale" group on facebook? Also check out RV Trader, as I've seen more pop up there as well. The dealers are going to take advantage of you for the time being, and some people pay the premium, but I would just advise the used route for sure.
@@conniehoyle2669
@@Pagosa I found a nice well taken care of wonder . 2020 20,000 miles ,but very well taken care of . They are taking delivery of the new wonder with the slide . I figured it saved me 60 ,so I’ll see if we like this one ,and if so we will order another next year . I could find great deals on the unity . We do not want that Benz again maintenance is so freaking high ,and diesel doesn’t seem to be coming down with that freak shit show in the WH . I can’t help ,but say that. We are buying camper’s they might stop us driving.
We are ready to buy and the wait time is awful ,and the dealerships are gouging
yep
now if they would just use the lithionics 320 battery! and a 3000W inverter!
The upside is, if they did, it would cost about twice what it would cost aftermarket. So adding after market is a way to save a bunch of money.
But for the price of the LTV, it should included in the price. Pleasureway and panoramic have those specs as part of the standard build.
I hope with the new Mercedes’ chassis they also come out with an all wheel drive option like the Ford.
I was going to ask and totally whiffed. Next time!
It'll take a serious chunk out of the ccc. Best way would be to make a legit 4 season rig out of an AWD, triple E knows how because they use to make them
Talked with Leisure… Aug. 2023 new Mercedes AWD Chassis, went down to my local RV dealership and put my deposit down on the Unity AWD.
Canadian built RV, but can't get them in Canada, no inventory in Ontario with population of 15,000,000 people
No inventory anywhere. Covid, chassis shortages and other problems still making production difficult. Getting better though.
@@Pagosa Like I said, why advertise something that is not available, people don't care what the production issues are, they just get annoyed and buy something else, not good customer relations! Sorry to vent, not your fault, pas on to manufacturer would you, thanks
Winegard will install Starlink?
I understand there is a Winegard branded Starlink setup. Assume it will be exact same thing
Paagosa~ that is great ~ 😈
Glad you enjoyed it!
Corner bed on the back and Murphy bed lounge in front would be a good idea
I still think the Serenity bed / couch in back and Murphy would be an amazing family RV
All wheel drive Unity??
Dang, had that on my list to ask. Next time!
@@Pagosa I assume, if it was going to be an option, he would have talked about it.
@@Pagosa I asked Dean about it, at the Toronto show. He said "maybe". They are looking at it to see if it will work.
Actually, I don't think it's as much Ford vs. Mercedes as it is diesel vs. gasoline. If a prospective customer sees that you have their preferred floor plan on a Mercedes chassis but not on their preferred Ford chassis, then you could lose that customer altogether. However, if you have their preferred floor plan on both the Ford AND Mercedes, you have a much better chance of making that sale and making the competition a little less wealthy and popular. For example, if a customer doesn't like the fact that diesel fuel is less available than gasoline, compounded by the less availability of DEF and having to put the DEF in and remembering to do so (as if there weren't enough to remember with these RVs), and you don't have an equivalent gasoline option, then you've lost another customer. That's why I'll go out on a limb and say Mercedes will switch to gasoline and if not, Ford will eventually win this war. As far as the war between fossil fuel and electric, are there any plans for the obvious alternative: hybrid? By-the-way, Dean is not only highly informative, he's also VERY funny. I just hope he goes back on that Jenny Craig diet!
Good point
It was hard to make out what you both were saying when you talked over Dean, when it sounded like you said 1 to 2 yrs on propane.
Yes, I have only filled propane once in 2.5 years even camping in colder weather and using the furnace. So hot water and occasionally the stove and furnace. If you have a propane generator, that's a different story.
I went from 80% propane to 60% from 2-14 Jun. This included every night hooked up to electricity. I do not see how you lasted that long unless you didn’t go anywhere. Will see what cooler weather and a bunch of boondocking brings starting this Fri.
In 5 years or less , we will have replicator technology. That should help with supply chain.
Lol
These things are rarer that Ferraris! 🤑
For sure!
with 4 med size dogs, they would take couches and bed
My three sure do
Note: British imperial gallons are bigger than US gallons, quite a bit bigger - so you can't directly compare MPGs (But yes gas prices are in a different league too of course).
True, about .75 liters larger. But their MPGs are still magnificently better than ours.
@@Pagosa European cars are indeed more efficient - smaller & lighter and perhaps a little more focused on MPG trade offs (for obvious reasons). I was driving an economy car in the UK just last week - and honestly in mixed usage its more like ~50MPG typically - not 70MPG, I think you were exaggerating a bit there ;). Imperial gallons are 20% bigger by volume. So that is equivalent to about 40MPG in US gallons - so clearly better but not hugely so for the same kind of car.
@@alanmoore2197 not an exaggeration (minus the gallon differential). You need a diesel to see 70, so 50+ US. So rent a Fiat 500D or similar next time and enjoy the savings.
@@Pagosa I was talking about gas cars since diesel compact cars are certainly not common here. Yes diesel can indeed get to ~70MPG but that's a bit apples & oranges to me.
@@alanmoore2197 diesel compacts are common in the UK. Could be here as well. Ask for a diesel next time. 👍