The NUNO Delay Trick (that will confuse your friends)
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- I freaked out the day I finally figured it out. Set the delay correctly and magic just happens. Have fun.
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Yeah...Nuno used this technique but could easily pick it just the same if he chose to. The guy IMO is the most underrated guitarist in the industry. Nuno pulled off riffs and solo's back then that the majority of guitarists couldn't do, with the exception of a few; EVH, Satriani, etc. Nuno made Extreme stand out because of his dual ability to play the grooviest rhythms around and immediately switch to single string melodies that were just seamless. Without him, Extreme would have never became as big as they were, again...IMO. And his acoustic guitar playing?....simply amazing!
The Edge made a career with this delay trick in every other U2 song.
With a profoundly more sophisticated tone
That's a generalization...his delay is often quite complex and hard to mimic....good ole' Edge!
Sorry kids! John Jorgensen did this years before the Edge!
Kraftwerk did it earlier on “Europe Endless”, probably others. I think Tangerine Dream did it. It’s an awesome gimmick, I’ve done it too.
@@TheStrataminor His settings differ from song to song but he just has a couple of different general timing settings (like 3/16, 5/16 etc.) that he used all his career. This page is a good listing of his settings per song: id3412.securedata.net/amnesta/edge_delay/
Sure, his tone is more than just his delay settings so even playing a strat with the correct delay doesn't sound 100% like him (the Vox amp, specific delays like the SDD3000 and TC1280 are major contributors too). But copying his delay is dead easy.
You can try to calculate suitable delay time. For example, if you play Flight Of Wounded Bumblebee in 200 bpm, and there's 2 notes per each click, 60 seconds / 200 beats = 300ms - interval between 1st and 3rd notes. So you need to find interval between 2nd and 3rd. Just multiply by 3/4. (300 / 4) * 3 = 225ms. Should be comfortable for this song.
Source: Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme) - Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee - Cover & tutoriel
If I've ever had a conversation with friends or students about pedals, I tell them that the first pedal they'll ever want to invest in (beside a tuner) is a DD3/DD7 delay pedal. Their application is so wide ranging, you can use it to improve groove and timing and learning how to apply a quiet delay in the background can boost the sound of your guitar for solos. Also, I love ambient/post-rock music, so I have like three of them running at any one time. That's when things get crazy. Advanced delay usage begins when you're trying to get the rhythm of one delay to "speak" to another and that is when it becomes an art and not a science.
Rob Scallon used this technique in his song Rain in a more melodic way. It sounds so complex but it's actually not that hard to play.
Until they played it without any delay pedal
Rain sounds really generic and boring
Time 2 by Ewan Dobson.
@@serph2951 i agree completely, was not impressed
@@BananaManPL he did that for a video. in the original it's just him with the delay
I’ve been doing this since the 80s when I got my first delay pedal! There is so much you can do with a good delay pedal.
For years I just thought Nunu was blistering his fret board - delay. Very cool! Thank you!!
Rays Metal Tracks yeah, flight of the wounded bumblebee caused a lot of strained fingers 😂
In fairness, I remember my old instructor playing it with no delay without breaking a sweat, but he is a guitarist even Brian May has gone on record as calling a genius... me, I never got close 😁
Buckethead uses the same effect in his song Big Sur Moon, doesn't he?
Yeah but I think in Big Sur Moon he has the delay set to repeat multiple times, in a fading manner which adds this dreamy vibe to it. The idea is the same though, play only few notes and have the delay make it sound like something really fast.
I think Buckethead stacks 3 delays on that track. That song is beautiful!
Paul Gilbert has a song similiar as well....
@@joepaul9855 echo song 👌🏾
Louis M. Another brick in the wall part 1.
Albert Lee has been doing this for close to 50 years both on guest sessions and his own projects. It's a lot of fun and there are a wealth of examples out there.
if im not mistaken wes Montgomery did this right around 50 years ago using tape delay in the studio.
Awesome!! thank you and happy new year!!!
Perfect lesson. Thank you!
Dotted eight.. I first heard on Pink Floyd's "One of These Days" on bass 1971.
With volume swells it is in Blackstar by Yngwie in 89
Streets have No Name by U2
Some newer delays even have a tap tempo setting for dotted eighth.
Yngwie did it in 84
this helps out that first Nuno delay video you put out. It will make it a bit easier to find the pocket. Thanks!
Great teacher. Explain things fast and easy.
Great vid. Sweet Strat.
Great lesson.
That is a badass hack!!!!!Thank you!! Now I am going to have to add another delay pedal to my rig with that setting !!
Nice Strat. I discovered it back in the late seventies with a Kent delay that used an 8 track tape. Cool lesson, it's like revealing a magicians trick.
AAAAA Thank you man!!! I was always afraid of this part, becouse it really sounds like he picks every note.
This sound so cool! :D
Awesome
Love it
Will use it
This is great for practicing your timing too!
Still the Master example after bout 10 years: Ewan Dobson - Time 2
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Loved the black cover on that single pickup!
Thank you, i heard this sound somewhere but never bothered to set up and try on my processor, this video ease up a things abit.
this was great!!! Thank you!!
Great job
Thanks for sharing
Awsome lesson... thanks.
That's been around LONG before Nuno my friend!
Nuno is a fookin' beast. So heavy, so funky, so groovy.
Way easier to set pedal to dotted eighths and tap in quarter notes and bam, you are there
if your delay pedal has those options, yeah
Good work
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream by Dream Theater has a real cool tempo delay in the verse section. Super fun...I have the patch saved and play it once in awhile.
Hey, nice tip! Thank you!
Definitely a technique used way back. Such an awesome way to utilize delay for sure.
The song "Signos" by "Soda Stereo" used this neat trick back in 1986.
Sounds neat!
That... is so cool!
awesome video
Love that this came up on my suggested videos a couple days after the What if Nuno's Delay Pedal Broke During Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee? video 🙂
Albert Lee's Country Boy (killer guitar work by the way) had this done back in 78...
Another great example of this is Van Halens "Cathedrals" from a few years prior to this recording
Thanks man!!!
I learned how to do the same technique from paul gilbert. I also freaked when I figured it out. good explanation of the trick. keep up the good work bro!!
That’s why the greats are great!
Nice. You use the same picks I do. Love em. been using them a decade.
Man you have gotten way better at guitar
Nick Valensi does something similar on Vision of Division by The Strokes; glad to see in depth coverage of this technique!
This is also the same technique Rob Scallon used in his song rain, in his anchor album
I first got my mind blown on a similar delay riff Michael Romeo wrote on "The Raging Seasons" off of Symphony X's self titled album.
New favorite channel.
Thank you for showing this, Mike. Nuno does some mind-blowing stuff on Pornograffitti, and this lick was always intimidating. I had no idea it was just dotted delay, I thought Nuno was picking every single note. I'm gonna have fun trying this out.
Pretty sick! Im gonna try this with slap bass and see what i get
Cool. This is the same trick Pat Thrall, used in Hughes and Thrall LP, back in 1982. I believe Nuno does it with a Boss DD3. Thanks for the posting.
Other's have mentioned Buckethead's Big Sur Moon, which yes, even though it has multiple repeats. Also Paul Gilbert's "Echo Song".
Been doing this for years, it's how I test delay pedals most of the time. Fun trick!
excellent vid
Every time you start the lick, I think I'm starting a Pokemon battle
Thank you , this sounds great and creepy !!!!
Great vid!! 220ms delay, no repeat, mix even ;)
Every guitar player thinking: just tell me how many milliseconds...
Around 200ms I guess
When i was a kid and my first amplifier was a line 6 with the delay effect.. and i discovered the delay trick all on my own.(accidentally) Made me sound a lot better than i was back then
You are awesome !!!!!! Thank you for sharing the love :0)
Pat Thrall used this technique back in the early ‘70’s
Is that what's going on in heat in the street (studio version) anyone ??
That’s cool!
Figured it out in the 90’s already and never told my friends haha. You spilled the beans! I was the only one who played Flight of the wounded bumblebee before He man woman hater i the setlist because I knew the delay trick. Its an ‘easy’ song to play once you get down with the delay :)
David Gilmour did this on "Echoes" wonderfully, guitar bridge before the last sung part. You would think he's doing a super complex arpeggio and he's playing a ridiculously simple figure that sounds like a dream with delay.
Ain't this dotted delay? Or?
That's all it is with just a single same volume repeat.
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Yngwie's Black Star also, 1984. not as early as Floyd and Les Paul. but he did the fast scales with delay like this first i believe
Man! Just tried on my bass. Sounds crazy! Thanks so much!
Man this on bass would be so rad.
Palm mute and not that fast... Very nice effect!
It is.
Try an auto wah and slap and mute.
Larry lalonde from primus also used this on the track jillys on smack
That song is a beast
You’re such a nice guy I can tell
Don't let me fool ya. haha
Coooooolll thanks man
Thanks
That's fuggin' cool. I always thought Nuno picked every note as well.
Buckethead uses this effect pretty awesome in Big Sur Moon
This is similar to how the intro of Moonchild by Iron Maiden is played. On the album it sounds like a keyboard, but it's a guitar synthesizer. In 2008/9 they played it live with a regular guitar tone. It took me a long time to figure out that they use a delay.
It's called a dotted 8th note delay, you can set it easily by tapping a 3 over 4 rhythm.
Thanks for the helpful tip. Flight of the wounded bumblebee was not written by Nuno Bettencourt, though, but by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov 90 years earlier
Korsakov's piece was called 'Flight of the bumble bee'. Nuno paid tribute to it by calling his piece 'Flight of the wounded bumble bee'. Not the same thing.
They are definitely not the same song. Nuno's song is certainly inspired by Rimsky-Korsakov's. But it most certainly isn't the same. Listen to them side by side or back to back. That's also why Nuno called his "The Flight of the WOUNDED Bumblebee." Rimsky-Korsakov's is called "Flight of the Bumblebee."
So no. Nuno's song was not written 90 years ago. Give credit where credit is due. Nuno absolutely deserve the writing credit for his song.
love this lesson! Do you have any other videos on pedals? (besides the phaser) one of my issues is Balancing my guitar, with Hot Rod amp with clean then distortion/fuzz pedals etc. What a mission. Sometimes I think it's all good then if I change guitar, practice or perform with the drums.....another story. And the amp is SO Loud too.
Periphery has done this with a lot of their songs, for example their song: Masamune
If that confused my friends, I'd find new friends
All my friends are confused, that's why they're my friends. haha
Aha, now I can shred with the best of them!
I discovered this technique on the solo of "Your time has come" by Audioslave
ok, turns out i was using delay like that all the time (but lowering the echo volume a bit). I always thought delays were ment to be used only like this and nothing else - to repeat after you and insert more notes to make melody thicker. What are the other applications then, lol
I haven’t heard Nuno much but I’ve been using this trick for years
Very similar to Francis Dunnery when he was in It Bites playing Old Man And The Angel.
Nice !
I love doing this to the final fantasy theme (the full arpeggio one)
I feel like this could be a fun way to practice scales and serve as another training tool to build speed
Wayne Healey from the Freddy Jones Band used this a lot.
Nice video
Also check out Albert Lee’s work , esp Country Boy or T-Bird to Vegas ; a wealth of examples as well by the Edge, eg Pride by U2
Actually I even found a video with Mr Telecaster himself, who explains just the same
(his picking is just madness!)
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The delay setting is similar to what Ronnie Montrose used in Gamma on the intro to the track "Razor King".
Don’t forget the edge , he built a career with this delay setting
thankyou for Lesson. Can this be done with Boss DD-3 ? maybe show a pic of the settings? :)
Let's not forget the late, great Danny Gatton and his Magic Dingis box!
Cool 🤘
Malmsteen uses this w volume swells for a hammered dulcimer effect.
Al Dimeola was doing that in the 70s without any effects.
The Edge was the biggest influence for this dotted 8th delay.
Theres this Australian Band called dead letter circus and all the songs on their firsts records have this effect.