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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Stories on: koRobo, Olympic e-sports Games, Bethesda and Blizzard get Unions, and the FTC is still watching all the moves Microsoft makes.
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Clearly, the eSport they should do is Doom.
Not playing doom, but racing to implement doom on a random device that they don't know beforehand.
What I'm hearing is it's time for another 'Graham looks at the history of the Olympics' video.
DDR needs to be part of any olympic gaming thing! I used to hang with folks who competed internationally at DDR (those were the days), and the sheer skill was incredible. I'll always remember freestyle true doubles, with players swapping /machines/ with eachother mid song. Any DDR olympic contest could easily have at least two classes - the full randomisation points-based class, and the freestyle class that features judges awarding points for style and flair
DDR could make the actual Olympics some day.
I was part of a group of people who made DDR an official recognized sport in Norway. There's unfortunately no active clubs in Norway anymore right now, but anyone could theoretically revive or start a new club.
Lets go unions!! The looming threat of the FTC seems to have done something
The only commission that they respect
😭: “You claim to be comedy show but everything you report on is a travesty” 🤣
Oh nooooo
@@LRRVG Just add time.
😂Actually I'm reminded how bad news channels has gotten, that TMZ (A company that also claims to be a joke news channel) started becoming a news channel with more journalistic integrity. 🙃
Now I want to make a Beej's Feet page on the LRR wiki that just says "Don't put my feet on the LRR wiki." - Beej
And a link to a monetized subscription site that does have his feet? (Plz)
Look, if Beej didn't want pictures of his feet on the internet, he shouldn't have let people in to his home to see his Nintendo trophies.
@beejsfeetareat [REDACTED]
Do it
The KoRobo “Approach as it’s own game” is definitely Legalese for “don’t sue us for IP infringement”😊
Maybe it's actually the first CHIBI-STRAND-type game.
This (Olympic eSports) is a classic example of 'I can see why the idea made it to paper. On the surface, sure why not? But once you start looking into the logistics and execution of it, heeeellllllll no.'
But all that sweet, sweet, Saudi money!
Tekias, you dolt! OF COURSE! How could I forget? SHOVE IT THROUGH! PUSH IT DOWN EVERYONE'S THROATS!
10 minutes of episode, 12 minutes of after show, as it should be
The world is healing
"It's RIGHT HERE, Beej" is a great bit.
The reason the art disciplines were dropped - painting, poetry, sculpting, city planning, and architecture (and few more I think) - was because Olympics were meant to be celebration of AMATEUR skills. Those art disciplines attendants were considered to be professional. Yes... Olympics were intended to be celebration of amateur sports... Now all the athletes are professionals at the age of 10, shaped by a massive engine fueled by corporate money and if they fail they basically have no skills to land on to live with. Most athletes in most nations don't even get living sallary.
I recently listened to a podcast talking about the history of the Olympics, and in its inaugural year the event lasted for five months and had categories like firefighting and cannon firing
So… you’re saying we lost track of the point, somewhere along the way.
The modern olympics are a travesty.
@@octochan BRING BACK COMPETITIVE FIREFIGHTING
I remember listening to something on the radio about how a few athletes during the Covid years who already had won medals in previous Olympics decided the game wasn't worth it and signed professional contract to become 'pro'
"Don't want to endorse violence." THE BIATHALON CALLED.
IT MISSES YOU.
YOU NEVER CALL, YOU NEVER WRITE.
You don't even need to put skiing in there, all kinds of pistol shooting events are olympic. And let's not forget ice hockey for stick and blade based violence.
I spent that entire section shouting "What was trap shooting's pick?! Did they even ask?!"
@@soaringdragon42 Duck Hunt. Or at least it should be.
The shooting sports in the Olympics do not involve shooting people. More violence against humans goes down in a typical hockey game than Olympic shooting sports. Although I can only guess the biathlon was invented to recreate the Finnish national sport of sniping in a winter wonderland. Or at least it was during WWII, from what I've heard.
Karate. Judo. Tae Kwon Do. Wrestling. FARKING BOXING.
Fun fact: All of the journalists that the Olympics broadcast rights-holder here in Australia sent over to cover the games are on strike as of today (Fri, 26th), as are 90% of the journalists at their newspapers and their tv channel.
Wondering when we can French Revolution the new aristocracy: Shareholders. I do not own a guillotine but I own a power drill and a can-do attitude.
They are actually quite simple to construct! Some lumber, some sturdy rope, a heavy chunk of sheet metal and some quality time with a table saw, power screwdriver, and a metal grinder and heads are ready to roll! (Granted, the one I built was not quite a full scale one for a Halloween prop, but the design could readily be scaled up!)
guillotine jokes are the sign of someone with bad politics and no personality. signed, a far-left european socialist.
They should do an Olympic Game Jam where they make the Olympic Video Games
It would be so fun to see the Chained Together; Olympic edition that people would make
Week one of the gaming Olympics is the game jam, week two is playing those games.
That's not a bad idea. The first one would make the games and subsequence Olympics would do both game jam and compete using those games.
every olympic game should have to be open source
I agree with Graham games that are live service should never be an Olympic Sport, but I’m totally cool with Tetris, speed-running, or classic fighting games being included. It definitely has to be something that has been released with no updates planned.
Agreed. I think the games covered are a good sample of games worth including. 1v1 Tetris, DDR as a performance sport (you prepare a tracked routine, and then get judged by the scoreboard), etc. I kinda also want Tetris Effect's raid mode as a competitive 3v3 format too.
my fighting game pick is controversial tho: I want Olympic YOMI Hustle.
@@jazzf8246 because it's not a fighting game? it's a turn based rpg.
Inside of you there are two wolves, the one that asks "wait, is that a real thing?" and the one that says "belay that, we don't actually want to know"
Do any of you all need to eat a pack of beef jerky once a week, just to keep your inner wolves appeased, or is that just a me thing?
@@matohibiki If that's just a you thing, you must be me.
"The first architecture competition was held in 1912 at the Stockholm Games. All entries in all categories of the art competitions were required to draw links between art and sport. The architecture competition allowed both built work and speculative designs to enter as well as designs for town planning. The first ever Olympic gold medal in architecture was won by Eugène-Edouard Monod and Alphonse Laverriére of Switzerland for their town planning project Building Plan of a Modern Stadium."
On first hearing about architecture as an event my mind went straight to LEGO. I'd watch competitors scrabling about with a sand pit full of bricks to build the best model they can within a time limit 🤣
@@Xaviereternal That sounds BETTER than the real thing! ❤
@@empath69 Seconded.
My robo isn't chibi... i-it's a perfectly reasonable size. Above average at least!
At least you didn't get it stuck in an m&m's tube
3:50 *Thank you so much for this segment.* I've been baffled for years how discussion about e-sports in general has seemed completely oblivious to this most fundamental tension in this cultural activity and phenomenon.
I eagerly await Graham's opinions on the e-olympic mascots and logos. Also, the idea of an e-sports event that is "speedrun a random shovelware game as fast as you can" actually sounds like it could be a lot of fun
“Different approach and financing….” Is code for “this can’t last long so we’re really going to turn bribe and graft machine up to 11”
4 things: it also shows the cybertruck having a rear window
If she's sneaking out at night to recharge she not your girl she's Chibi Robo.
So the C-Truck isn’t just out in the open in Fortnite. You equip a vehicle skin to your loadout and when you get in a car it “reboots” into yours. But if we see one we go after it. Also you only get it from doing a stupid questline
What's the questline?
- Suck the D on a gold Elon Musk statue 1000 times then buy a NFT?
If only there was a video game that contained dedicated virtual implementations of all the Olympic sports the IOC could have used for E-sports week. One that was regularly developed and released every couple of years. Maybe to coincide with some major international sporting event or something.
Idk, probably needs some brainstorming this...
Someone get mario and sonic
Someone get a Commodore 64. My friends and I broke more controllers playing Summer Olympics on that thing.
is Epyx still around?
Someone give Jon Freeman a call! (maybe someone over at Square Enix still has his number)
The "It's RIGHT HERE, Beej" bit is perfect.
I recently saw a cyber truck in real life, and it looks insane
Every time, I can't help but think that it's somehow a poorly rendered vehicle. In real life.
Right? One passed me on the road and I was afraid it was going to clip me. It’s like a cinder block going at ramming speed.
actual literal raccoons are mistaking them for dumpsters.
@@LexYeen You mean correctly identifying them _as_ dumpsters.
@@syeblaizeYeah, Tesla really need to enable the LOD models on their cars.
Town Planning was also an Olympic Event in the early days of the Modern Games.
Did no one inform the IOC that Nintendo and Sega already have an officially-licensed series of Olympics games? I don't know how many events are covered, but I bet you can check most of the ones off your list that you can't find another match for.
You're missing the point of an esports Olympics. It shouldn't be about simulations of actual sports, it should be about truly digital sports, like Tetris, Rocket League or DDR.
@@TheEvilCheesecake They already threw this out the window by looking at each of the extant Olympic events and trying to find a video game that's analogous to it.
Surely "Mario and Sonic at the Summer/Winter Games 20XX" would be the ideal choice for all Olympic e-sports events.
Not while Robotnik is banned from the games due to doping and the invasion of Ukraine.
Kayakcross sounds amazing
wait improvised breakdancing sounds kinda sick wtf
With the games industry serving as a bit of a snapshot of the future of other industries due to the lack of entrenched standards and behaviours enabling them to be as scummy as other companies wish they could be, I'm hoping that unions in games spread further and that its a sign of things to come for the rest of the economy.
Love the union story!
Hopefully the Union can get formed quickly so they have a stake in the negotiations!
Holy cow I have been looking for that star. Thanks Beej!
Rocket League better be in the Olympic esports games
It’s so perfect😮
Gotta say, given the way the Olympics are extremely averse to anyone using the copyrighted word "Olympic Games" in media, even though it's from a 2000 year old tradition, I’m not surprised at all that they would be happy to give singular companies control over e sports.
I too am excited about Kayak cross!
"it's kayak but you are encouraged to get cross."
Surely the rights for Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games would be easy to secure.
You know what olymic sport I want to see added? Robot wars.
They provide the bots, the participants know the specs beforehand but only get a week practice with the actual bots. Hold elimination rounds with increasingly unhinged bots, until the finals with two flamethrower monster trucks remote controlled in a junkyard.
In addition to skeet shooting the Olympics have rifles and pistols. The Olympics also have the modern pentathlon which is "designed to model skills needed by a soldier of that time."
Alao, im reminded that i want to get a vpn for Olympics weeks so i can pretend to be Canadian and get that great coverage as opposed to the shit coverage we get down here in the states.
Did *not* expect that Backbone reference at 1:55. EDIT: Oh, they retitled it since Kathleen's playthrough.
Sadly, the reason they renamed it is kinda bad. It's mainly because the finished game only tangentially resembled the game from the promotional material on Kickstarter and the biggest thing cut was the game mechanics and story elements that were the source of the name (since it was a cyberpunk, or more specifically biopunk, story and the name 'Backbone' comes from the main character getting colonised by a mutagenic bioweapon that attached itself to their spine).
@@RvEijndhoven Oh dear. That . . . would explain the third act as I saw it in Kathleen's Play It Forward. I kind of have fond memories of said PiF because it was a nice distraction to some family health stuff going on at that time (things worked out on that end, thankfully).
Excited for the inevitable NBC vs copyright bots for all the DDR competition uploads
The Olympics used to also have an event titled "Military Patrol". It's on Wikipedia.
Surprised you didn’t talk about the strike. Then again, this might have been filmed before it was announced
Yup we just missed it, annoyingly.
If no one has proposed it yet, push for the Olympics esports to only run open source games. Micropolis, Freeciv, Tux Racer, some sliding tile puzzle, whatever else is out there.
Space Cadet Pinball
12:19.
"I'm mal to love of prop-isms"
What?
Am i having a stroke? What kind of words is this joke referring to? I feel entirely flabbergasted.
TIL (from Wikipedia)
" A malapropism (/ˈmæləprɒpɪzəm/; also called a malaprop, acyrologia, or Dogberryism) is the incorrect use of a word in place of a word with a similar sound, either unintentionally or for comedic effect, resulting in a nonsensical, often humorous utterance"
Malapropism...
Cool!
All hail DDR! - I remember being part of a group trying to get DDR recognised as a sport, back in the very early days of eSports.. it would. be great to see it finally make it all the way! - Probably would never happen though :(
Fun fact: the Commonwealth Games had an esports competition. It's not broadcast with the rest of the sports and is instead steamed on their UA-cam channel.
Edit: It was hosted on the Global Esports Federation UA-cam channel. At least last year it was.
The FIA backing Gran Turismo makes sense. They had a partnership previously, and the accessibility argument definitely has precedent. FIFA adopted VAR after long resisting it even though other sports had been using it successfully for years, because they wanted to protect the idea that the game played in the World Cup final is one you can play with just a regular ball and jumpers for goalposts.
I'm no super fighting game aficionado, but having watched the games that interest me at EVO the comment on "they don't usually have guns" is pretty funny. Both Tekken 8's and Guilty Gear Strive's final 6 had guns, and that's 2 of the big 3 games currently making big numbers.
I'm kinda legit excited for Olympic Breaking. I've seen plenty of highlights of the top-tier breakers, and the performances are amazing. I can't pretend to understand how things are scored or judged or anything like that, but the actual athletes are certainly fulfilling the "holy shit how is that even possible" quotient that will make the event enjoyable all on its own.
the Acquivision, if you will
If the IOC wants to do Olympic esports, and specifically to do esports versions of existing Olympic sports, maybe they should make their own games? Or maybe the community could just make open-source versions. That'd make them more accessible and probably better!
Gotta laugh when the IOC says "No violence for you" for their esports but Full Contact Kayaking is A-OK.
Open-source generic Olympic FPS training camps would be wild. It's the only way to do "no one owns football" with eSport. Mugen but only uncle sam vs the Queen(may she reign forever).
People have been organizing to call truces and work together to un alive any pcs driving cybertrucks. It's beautiful how dislike of the cybertruck could finally bring everyone together in a moment of world peace and unity 😅
Oh hey, it's Checkpoint episode Faiz!
Instructions unclear: Entire LRR wiki is now Beej Feet
Considering that the IOC is struggling to put on a decent tournament for a sport as traditional and mainstream as association football, I am looking forward to the esports chaos and drama.
Rythym game esports makes a lot of sense, actually. If you think of the stuff they play on Games Done Quick, and how nonsensical and impressive those things are, and you imagine several people of that caliber all trying to sight-read a song... yeah, that would be impressive as hell!
If you wonder whether or not government oversight and regulation does anything, ask yourself this: Would Microsoft have voluntarily recognised unions at their studios if they didn’t have the FTC looking over their shoulder?
What the Olympic Committee should do (somehow) is commission the creation of simplified, agnostic, specific challenge-style video game(s) that have no connection to corporations and focus on the fundamentals of gaming. What are these fundamentals? IDK, but it makes more sense than putting an existing game in.
They could fund the development of some FOSS game?
Hooray for new unions in Gaming!
I figured by the time we had video games in the Olympics it would be more virtual arena or augmented reality kind of thing like you see in the trailers for league of legends tournament promos.. Maybe I'm old.
Yep, we are. **shares a bottle of Advil**
Great, now I want them to actually make Shrekpoint with Beej in green makeup and Graham in a Donkey fursuit.
I realize this is a totally unreasonable thing to want but I still want it.
This is why I think retro games are the only reasonable place for esports. Nintendo Tetris ain't changing, BAAAYBEEEEE
Hey Beej, you joke about getting medals in Excel spreadsheets BUT there IS an Excel Esports scene.
People Make Games did an investigative video on it. It's wild and kinda awesome.
Also there's competitive Farm Simulator too with its own competition grade build of the game.
You had me at raccoon noir.
Meanwhile Bobby Kotick growing literal horns while salivating at the prospect of a merger reversal. Dollars to donuts he gets to keep his golden parachute if that happened.
If the Olympics wants esports, they should get their own development studio to make games specifically for Olympic esports which are free for anyone to try. That’s the only way it would be fair and logistically possible.
Or set up specifically Olympic versions of popular games with servers controlled by the Olympics.
Clearly the game they should play at the Olympic e-sports is the most recent version of Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games.
Fun addendum to the fortnight cybertruck story: even the devs full throatedly endorse bullying the truck and anyone using it.
I like the idea of an esports olympics much more than I think it is practical or could work. I think, contextually, it's something that could be pulled off by ESL, but at this point I fear whoever did it, it would inevitably be sportswashing.
Personally, I think LRR could do a mini version of it over like a month or so, but at that size it ends up being more like a decathlon or such with a team based section. Id do two teams of 5, and for most of the single player stuff run a roughly seeded bracket. Give people a month or so to practice, and see. Or if you wanted to do it as a Live, with some bits as prerecords, you could just nominate players for each team for the single player bits, run that match, run a prerecord for set up for the next single thing, and so on.
My pitch for the first LRR Decathlon (And brief reasoning):
1) Fighting (probs Street Fighter, arguably the most accessible fighting game at the moment)
2) Racing (Sure, iRacing, but I think as it's LRR you could go fun and do Mario kart, I'd let you)
3) FPS (Normally I'd say CSGO, but I know the office has more experience with Valorant ) (Team based)
4) Rhythm (DDR is the classic. Id make sure its something physical not like classic controller based)
5) MOBA (I'd Vote Dota, but I know more of the office plays LoL. Dota starts with all Heroes, and would be slightly more even playing field for the office) (Team Based)
6) Sports (Most Popular is EA FC Club or whatever they called it, but Shoutouts to picking some old Hockey game for LRR)
7) RTS (SC2, come on)
8) Team Dex games(?) (Whatever genre Overcooked is, Overcooked 2 still being my choice) (team)
9) Speedrun (Do a classic short Speedrun game (metroid, zelda)
10) TCG (MtG: arena, Gladiator just because I think it should be in there somewhere, or something akin)
10.5) Party Game* (For the LRR version)(Mario Party, come on. Let the Olympics come down to who bribed Boo the most, like all good sports)
I liked the fallout London Easter egg in the background
I know when the credits start to roll and the playtime isn't even at half, I'm in for a good time.
Thanks for this.
Microsoft got so used to license fuckery with their Microsoft 365 products they thought they could just do shit like this.
Fun fact: Olympic skeet shooting is gender segregated because a woman won once, dudes got mad, and they split it up by gender.
That's weird because skeet shooting is more of a dexterity and judgement sport than physical athleticism.
Although not gonna lie, crushing the competition so hard they give you your own league is a power move way to get them to admit implicitly that you're better than them.
They should have an art-olympiad with a gamejam to create the games for the gaming olympics.
Adoung 14:20 when discussing the FIA's input: Also Gran Turismo sponsorship is all over a lot of FIA sanctioned racing events.
also Gran Turismo already has an esports championship series that is officially sanctioned by the FIA, so there's the existing relationship thing
As an Australian to me the CWA is the Country Women’s Association. I place to bake cakes and learn about bottling fruit.
02:00 - And "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare" is a walking sim that takes place in Binghampton, NY.
05:00 - Either GFuel or Gamersups. Depends on how desperate for cash the IOC is.
10:30 - The Cybertruck looks like it was made by a kid at the Pinewood Derby who ran out of fucks to give, hacked off a few pieces off the block with his dad's chop saw, and painted it with a leftover spray can of Rust-O-Leum in a cabinet above the washing machine. If that thing shows up in Fortnite, it will draw the attention of everything potentially explosive or flammable in the game within seconds of appearing.
I need to find someone else with a bow because there's no way that's not more fun to play in real life with real high-velocity pointy sticks
But Beej, I'm going to make waffles in the morning!
My wish for the esports Olympics is that they get Bennett Foddy to make Getting Over It courses to race on.
They should bring back architecture as a Polybridge 3 event.
We need some open sourced games for e-sport thing. We need a generic Rocket League, 4D Chess, some sort of Civ-like?
Mix e-sport with real sport by having a RTS game with e-sport players commanding physical sports player to battle.
There are physical sports I want to see that would draw in new viewers: sky dancing, dirt bike racing, mountain biking, bring back pistol dueling, sumo wrestling, arm wrestling, chess boxing, full contact tai chi, bring back architecture by racing to build a bridge the fastest and can safely been driven over by an unmanned truck.
Beej, there are excel spreadsheet olympics and it's awesome!!!
As a person who took Tic-Tac-Bow relatively seriously for its first month, it's even dumber than you've presented.
Tic-Tac-Bow didn't exist when it was announced as a game. It had rumored ties to a Singapore company with close ties to someone on the Olympic committee. It was almost definitely a marketing expense where money changed hands freely and under the table.
It was surprisingly good as far as mobile archery games go! There were multiple countries discord communities and the North American was about 50 people strong. Qualifying was completely reasonable! A few members of discord made it to the event and it was a really high level of skill. Prior to the Olympic esports things, It was relatively f2p. After the Olymoics thing it became unplayable without buying the gacha boxes.
the architecture event was pretty much rigged from jump. The only winner of the supposedly amateur event was they guy that designed the stadium the olympics were held at. he submitted the stadium.
Yeah the whole tic tac bow thing? World archery has actually been pushing that for a few years now. It's profoundly weird.
The Olympics Committee should select the games that seem interesting - then invite the companies to make a Neutral Competition Version of it, to be hosted on the Olympic servers.
Nobody's gonna want to play Olympic Fortnite for more than 15 minutes, but you don't have to worry about your opponent having the lady Gaga glitter cannon from the battle pass either
I wonder if CoD, or MW could add a "Paintball" or "Tag" version to make it a non-lethal game allowed by lots of other organizations.
2:04 "after 36 hours of game time I get to kiss my heavily mutated Chozo wife"
Okay like
Stop reading my mind Beej
My wife had to teach the anti union workshops at the half price books bookstore she worked at.
ESports Olympics should be all Wii and Kinect shovelware games