For Honor - **UPDATED** Gladiator Parry & Guardbreak Punishes
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- It's a long one.
Lots of spicy info and totally reasonable punishes. Not too high at all.
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Freeze: let me teach you Glad's max punishes
Also Freeze: Alright here's how every character punishes Glad zone
need to make everyone want to watch the vid :)
what about jorm? doesnt he get a free nut punch if he dodges the zone?
*cries in Warlord*
@@chickennuggler no, you'd get interrupted if he follows through and the glad can dodge if he feints. Lose lose for jorm.
its pretty valuable since he shows glad's weaknesses against specific characters
Who translated this entire 17-minute video into Mandarin in 19 hours
What a madlad
BP can flip toestabs after lights consistently. Input is on reaction to toestab after normal light. Works in the entire light chain if there is a toestab.
Exactly!
This is what absolutely amazing. I had no idea
BP can basically flip anything like 99% of the time. He tends to not care about stun locks and stuff haha
Bp can also flip Warden's vortex for some reason. Double light-sb, he can flip the uncharged shoulder bash after the double light
@@skeletalspiders6697 Makes the Warden think a bit more. Part of characters with bash-themed mix-ups' matchup with BP is reading whether or not he'll flip you.
Thanks freeze for being a consistent content creator. Easily one of the most important creators in this community. Keep up the good work sir!
The toestab with the Haymaker feat equipped also makes it so that you deal 10 damage to a Black Prior when he Bulwark Counters you. This is most likely a bug, as we've also seen with the stun effect still appearing when Bulwark Countering a Stunning Tap.
Yeah, me and friends of mine said that the bulwark counter was weird, cause it still feels like we're getting hit
@@343killedhalo4 You and me both
same thing with jorms first feat he gets healed if u flip his bash
@@343killedhalo4 for real bro i always notice the heal on them triggers me every time :)
Eh, BP deserves it. Screw 'im.
For anyone watching this after CCU, Haymaker now only adds 5 damage to every bash and throw. So the new toestab (now default 9 damage) only does 14 damage with Haymaker.
CCU threw gladiator so much out of wack that I really hope we can get an updated video sometime, Freeze. :)
Love how creative you can be with glad.
also hate it cause it makes the majority that light spans hurt even more
Literaly nobody:
Freeze just doing his stuff:
12:01 Dobeny: What are y- WHAT ARE YOU DOING???
Hah jokes on you notifications I’m already watching the video
Ngl, fighting a grandmaster lawbringer as gladiator is painful.
Fighting lawbringer in General is painful
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial Yeah especially their 80 iq brainlet Shove light zone feint gb comob. its so disgusting
@@nurs3826 i used to main LB but i tried not to shobe too much
Opposite for me, i destroy lbs as gladiator
@@babypolarbear7208 It's a very different game now lol
Bruh im so glad that Glad is buffed now. Hes actually viable again.
If you throw after skewer, delayed side dodge attack into delayed skewer over and over you can keep the player chained though it’s difficult
I start playing glad a 1-2 month before his rework. I actually really like his rework but i totally agree that Haymaker shouldn't buff toes stab damage, especially when Ubi have decrease the recovery of a toes stab's wiff
00:31 sorry but the teamwork going in the back here just made me unable to listen to what you were saying until like the fourth go. It's so seamless, and is satisfying to watch.
3:58 according to my observations, you can make a delay before the throw so that the damage from bleeding goes in triples. But i cant every time catch the timing, i try watch shoulder animation and in most cases its not confirmed
I'd love to see an updated video of what kind of ganks Glad can set up. I recall a video about some fun ganks back in season 1 or so but it'd be great to get an updated one. Of particular interest, I play goki/hito and have been looking at interactions with glad. The big thing we discovered is I can't get DE off toe stab as the shugoki will bounce off even after the enemy is reeling backward post stab. Awesome vid here, and love all your work and dedication to both improving players and improving the game!
Glad gank is fairly simple. Toe stab gives you a heavy, just know you have 2 heavies coming at the opponent and you want the highest damaging one to hit first as the second will have damage reduction.
Really the only other thing glad does for a gank other than toe stab is zone, which confirms your heavy as well as the followup. In this case you ALWAYS want to hit first, as no heavy in the game is < 20 damage. This is tough if your heavy doesn't have HA.
I'd honestly say thats why there isn't a glad gank tips video, because I basically just summarized it in 3 sentences.
I noticed people never dodge the second toe stab after getting knocked over on the first one
valk can also superior light glads zone follow up, i havent tested this but it works with a right dodge
If anyone can parry it doesn't that mean any crushing counter works?
When are you going to do a update guide on deflecting
Something to remember about the skewer oos punish, the timing for it is pretty tight. it can be parried if delayed a little too long, ive seen training bots parry it as they get up
Hey, Freeze, I just wanted to say thank you for always making great videos.
5:55 actually it does 90 damage because haymaker applies to both the throw and the toestab
with most assassins, if you get hit with the punch part of the zone, then the follow up heavy can be easily deflected as long as the glad doesn't feint
0:33 what a smooth opponent changing
NOOB isHERE target switching
Watching this after ccu and... 30 damage heavy... That was wild
Nice :) 116 Dmg punishes. What a Great Time to Play for honor. A Single mistake can Take 80 % of most heroes HP Bar. Really dont want to be a shinobi Main.
Yall can ask for as much buffs and nerfs as you want but High Damage is way too Easy accessable in this game (Neutral raider top heavy sends his regards).
@Sheng Fink Still, things shouldn't be that unbalanced
Lmao. dont get me started on Stamina and being OOS. Tying ur offense to a System which when fully depleted leaves u wide open to said 116 dmg punishes is just stupid game Design Imo.
Take street fighter as an example. every attack causes a fixed ammount of stun dmg. If u get hit Multiple Times without Getting Room to breath by defending yourself u get Dizzy and are open for a stun Punish (pretty much same as OOS punish). Now if we compare that to For honor u have stamina. Attacking Costs Me A Ressource that litteraly almost triples in cost If blocked or Wiffed. On top of that if i fully empty that Ressource I can nearly get one shot depending on Matchups.
So if comboing and continous aggression is rewarded with me shooting myself in the litteral fuckin knee, Do u Think i will ever throw out anything at all ?
Street fighters System rewards and encourages Aggression. U could say that For Honors System rewards good ressource Management but then u lack an abyssmal amount of offense. Turtling and defense is just way too rewarding and less risky than actual Aggression.
And Part of that Problem is too High damage out of Neutral and a Ressource System that just does not belong into a fighting game IMO.
Being a shinobi main is fun. High risk of dying in 3 seconds, but high reward. I've basically played him straight for two years lol so I'm biased. His nerfs hurt him a little but he's still viable =)
@@BBBB-kf6nt allow me to introduce you to jormungundr, he ruins the game
Nice video, also your gladiator looks amazing! 🤘🏻
I did not know about the double light whiff in to skewer for out of stam punish lol
If you throw them on the ground you can get the jumping light then another light then toe stab then heavy it gives 5 more damage
So... Haymaker is now mandatory cus its free 10 damage for almost everything...
Nice pun there
@@vibereightore1591 its not a pun, im never taking that shit off...
@@vitorvena Why would you noy have it beforr the other are bad on gladiator
@@Crouton- now theyre even worse cus HM is even better than previously...
@@vitorvena Jesus im suprised you understood what I said lol, anyways yeah haymaker back then wasnt that great but it was always better than the other two, your not missinh anything but just always using haymaker
Take out Full-health Shinobi in one chain.
XD
How about deflect on an oos opponent then going for the throw ligh light toe stab heavy ?
Buff tiger dodge and cobra strike's I-frames. Just throwing it out here.
Buff Tiger Dodge's damage. It's laughable, honestly.
@@roasty- tiandi needs more dodge I frames
Anemone JJ stole all the I-frames
You can deflect the zone from glad with conq I think if you dodge to the right.
It’s super easy to deflect undogable since even if you missed the deflect timing, the attack will have a high chance of hitting you during your doge, use that to get easy deflect🙂
Just don't do it too soon but also be careful. BP or Shaolin may be expecting a dodge if you're an assassin and feint into guardbreak or wait to parry.
Edit: Spelling mistake.
so helpful thanks
Glad's toestab is the one thing that manages to piss me off
Am I doing something wrong with the throw punish or did something change? Whenever I hit the first light they stand up immediately and I can't get a heavy in, let alone a second light. This happens on throws in all directions. The actual punish only seems to work on throws from a Skewer for me.
Never mind, just figured it out. You can't change guard on the first light.
Could you do the video on how being OOS while OOL changes punishes? It would be nice.
And I love maining shaman these days bc everyone on console is playing glad. So it's rather easy to punish all them zone spammers.
Idk if they changed his zone or anything but I could have sworn that one time a few months ago I was playing Conq and a Glad zoned on me and I early dodged to the right and could parry the zone.
I’ve been dodging to the right this whole time to let block on dodge cover the follow up strike. I’ll try left dodging now that you say so!
If you dodge early, i guess it's possible (early like "dodging before he attacks")
@Freeze If I land Gladiators trowing Feat (the one traps him and takes stamina) on a OOL opponent do I get the Long OOS Skewer Punish?
Thumbnail says "Gladiat'i'or" :/
Oh... thanks. I will fix it
Have you discussed the HL double defensive heavy combo, my friend seems to complain about the second heavy being confirmed, because of ‘stunlock’
If a HL catches someone OOL then the second heavy is confirmed off of a defensive heavy and a celtic curse
can shinobi deflect the second part of glads zone with his double dodge?
Maybe with the quad dash ? I need to test it
Marc Goulet let us know what happens pls I’m actually very curious
Yes he can I've just test it
Double dodge then charge your attack then you can deflect, work on either dodge side
Here's another punish party out of stamina Heavy instanty do a toe stab which knocks them dow heavy and then they for another one if you dont get the knock down you get a free toe stab GODLY PUNISH
Your toes......
HAND EM OVER
Now calculate the max punish with an attack boost or revenge
Is the out of stam skewer throw to back right which gives you two side heavies not viable now?
How do you tell how many ticks a skewer is doing?
experience. need to learn the different throw timings with practice
Have you done a shaman one?
I'm rep 13 with her but I love hearing your voice
ye, back in April.
But that video should still be uptodate.
@@fkkfreeze oh ok
Thanks man
@@dragonsbreath389 search for shaman in here docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GrDRm_2w-2bjt9vw0Jowd2xNzOJDDBH_MAXWbStzA_w/edit#gid=405861430 , you should find detailed information about her punishes, the exact numbers and many other useful things
*laughs in gladiator
Can you tell us how to make that glad it’s sick
So wait, warlord can’t do anything about gladiator’s zone right?
The unshown characters I would guess cannot punish correct
Characters without fast enough dodge attacks, or even dodge attacks at all are shit out of luck.
Roasty McToast understood. 😭
did I somehow miss Glad's revenge parry punish?
BP is ultimate glad counter, change my mind
BP us ultimate everyone's counter, change my mind
@@sklavian6886 yes
What about centurion, warlord and Jormungandr punish of Gladiator's zone? And also highlander in defensive stance
They have no guaranteed punish
Can you turn of health regeneration when showing the punishes?
*Makes one mistake against Glad at full health*
*Fucking dies*
6:28 i think i managed that punish like ONCE
Chadiator frog is pretty toxic in game
bruh I heard hes a literal gaemr and never ever gets heated
@@frogaroach IHAutism would beg to differ
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ to grego the frog
@@frogaroach ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dont h8 on gamers
Will you make a centurion guide like this one after rework?
Yup, he did that with every character
How do you parry into skewer?
Are these punishes up to date?
No, the toestab doesn’t knock down anymore and the damage values have been changed
I’m guessing my big boy shugo doesn’t get anything 😔
Yeah, thx Ubi, for not letting my main punish that no brain zone
Can you get 2 heavies from a skewer when you throw them too the ground
on side throws, yes
THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE
what are ticks?
I’ve been playing Gladiator for 17 reps and Honestly I’m sick of using him it’s just so dull and boring spamming skewer mixups to force a dodge and GB/toe stab someone into another mixup or trying to fish for deflects all day, it sickens me to the core but for some reason I just can’t bring myself to grind a character up to where my Glad is because I just net so much better results due to my knowledge of the character.
MSTRPRFKT well almost all hero in this game a single mimick or none you have to use and combine with usual moves to get a mix up, once you have mastered it, then you almost mastered the hero himself. Don’t move to another hero to expect something totally different from glad. Warden is all about it’s shoulder bash for exemple and all his mixup resolve auround a variation of his bash. Hikitori is all about is hyperarmor and you just have to know when you should throw a heavy or light to trade and then the rest of the mixup is one sided, you don’t have interaction with the other player. Strange you said that because i’m rep 12 gladiator and the find i love about him is that he is one of the game with the most tool to work with (like shinobi pre-nerf) and i feel like even with dozen of hours playing him i still discovered new mixups and combo from his kit
Theo Filleul Now don’t get me wrong I do use essentially all of glad’s tools when I deem it necessary, it’s just that I’ve used him for so long and so much that I’m just not enjoying using him but I don’t want to have to dedicate myself to another character again so I’m just stuck running back to Gladiator because I’m not good with other characters.
Glad toe strap should fill revenge faster
Something i'd change about glad :
Toe stab hit stun. It's way too long and fighting two gladiators is awful. They can just chain toe stab you once you dodged one and you get nearly no revenge. Counting the fact that haymaker activates with toe stab, which now does 20dmg for a bash with an instantaneous punish who stuns enough for anyone to get a heavy. No move that can be confirmed that easily with just two people who don't know each other and then chained to 100-0 anyone just exist, even without haymaker.
Can we talk about the event orders that are like 10 times harder to do than the regular ones for the exact same reward?
Oh yeah they are a lot more tedious
I'm sad LB doesn't have hyper armour anymore
rather than do all that to get the skewer on oos parry you can just deflect into skewer
How do you punch while skewer
Square or the guard break button
BIG DEEEEPS
How you know then its two tics
Looks like i'm buying mr toe stab on my pc account now.
Also yis give me roster video on OOS OOL punishes.
I live for D A T A.
Glad and Jorm are gonna be high I'm guessing
UA-cam real comfortable with these double adds now.
Stilo updated?
Freeze, can you make video how to counter lawbringer's shove?
@Nick Scythe I think it's more the fact it's disgustingly safe rather than dodge timing
@@propastypete1958 if you have a dodge attack or a bash then you can use either to get a guaranteed punish off of reaction, because lb shove is slowest bash in game, totally reactable, and cannot be feinted
Sam Bellware Except it has insane recovery. If you even delayed a fast dodge attack slightly, the Lawbringer can block it. Don’t bother trying with the slower dodge attacks like Kensei and Shaolin.
The most consistent way to punish is dodge bashes like Warden.
It’s not an easy move to punish.
@@sambellware5810 if you punish lb shove with a dodge attack on prediction from say, orochi or valk, LB can actually parry it. You eat 50 damage for reading correctly. It's silly
@Nick Scythe His whole character is just meh offence and crazy turtling. Even his rework just gave him arguably better turtling and a fairly better offence.
Are these still viable after ccu?
Warlord and Shugoki remain the very only characters unable to punish his ZA then ?
Jorm as well
Hitokiri, cent and aramusha as well
How come no one rocks the Glad plume from the Season 4 Tournament (I believe) I’m pretty sure I’m the only one I’ve seen using it I think it’s a good look
What’s the name of the ornament?
I like to use the Minotaur ornament, can’t remember the season though.
My glad is all about the Red Bull lol
@@marykfcjane i dont remember but just scroll down in the ornaments until you see a super unruly plume froma tournament win. Its a really nice one imo
@@marykfcjane i think it may be called gargoyle or something like that
Damian Burns Oh yes, the Mohawk looks awesome. I like the look from the back I just don’t really like the gargoyle itself with its wings outstretched like that.
Oddly enough though, I do really like Centurions metal mohawk ornament, Equine? I think that’s what it’s called.
@@marykfcjane i have that one but I much prefer his "winged victory" ornament, a tiny little plume with what I believe is a Pegasus on the front
Toes
Gladiator mains: *Heavy Breathing*
finally!
Warlord punish plz
He can't punish
There’s a deflect move but instead of R2 try R1
God your profile pic XD
what episode was that from though
Rest in peace Gladiator
Is gladiator guard fixed yet?
Yes it's been updated to match all other assassins
@@Kernnichiwa ok thanks
My first time playing glad was soooooo bad
I can't do shit XD
I thought the skewer punish when there is no wall is 3 ticks then a dodge light, not 2 ticks?
Glad became Jormung, except ever more annoying.
Gonna have to disagree there, jorm has the worst voice lines In the game
poggers
I've notice in a lot of your videos you call movements when you dash to your opponent a "forward dodge or forward dodge attack." Wouldn't they be technically dash attacks since you're not really dodging anything?
Freeze, you missed the centurion punish for the zone
Edit: You missed jormungandr too
Second edit: shugoki, aramusha , hitokiri were forgoten too
That's because all of them can't do anything else than parry
now wahlad, hes in a good spot
you'll do the vid with me again? :D
"Yes Lawbringers, you have hyper armor"
Nowhere that matters, Freeze..
-cough- easily interrupted unblockable top heavy -cough-
Any of his heavies as a matter of fact.. Has nothing to mixup his heavies with so.. Yeh..
Serious question:
you think LB is weak and adding HA would fix the character?
@@fkkfreeze The fact he has nothing to alter his heavies makes him weak. Nowhere near as weak as old LB, granted, but all homie was given was just light spam.
You can easily tell when an LB is feinting a heavy or letting it fly.. That's not good at all.
Where's his mixups outside of what he had before? Heavy feint to gb or heavy feint to top light.
Weak is subjective.. If you're talking about parry punishes, absolutely not weak.
Talking about his overall approach? Quite weak.
@@fkkfreeze as for HA fixing LB.. Depends.. What would make sense to HA? Going the Kensei route and for some reason slapping HA on lights? Or the logical one and putting it on his top heavy which is slow and emphasizes he's going all in with the hit..?
Wouldn't make sense to be so easily interrupted if I'm putting all my weight behind a hit.
He is so dirt nasty and i hate hes my nee main
116 dmg 0.o
Downvoted for using female gladiator