Crazy STABILITY test Native Watercraft Slayer Propel MAX 12.5 does it FLIP?

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  • @AliexFolgueira
    @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +3

    Incredible giant tuna fight offshore off a kayak! Watch ua-cam.com/video/09CBGB0_WbA/v-deo.html

  • @richardsutherland8445
    @richardsutherland8445 3 місяці тому +1

    Best kayak flipping chanel I have seen, thanks for your content

  • @JJones12175
    @JJones12175 4 роки тому +5

    “What kind of sorcery is this!” 😂 That is awesome. Man, love your videos! When you were peddling it on the tip of the bow, I mean come on, the king of stability! You ought to see if you can catch a fish while standing there. Thanks for the awesome video!

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Wow why didn't I think of that! I can get a Cuda easy

  • @jswold2007
    @jswold2007 4 роки тому +2

    Thxs for the video. Got my Slayer Max yesterday. Just waiting for the Native sidekick to install. Got the Lowrance Hook 2 7in. And I'm ready to get going. Yes! This kayak is badass.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      I'm jealous, congrats! 😁😁👍👍 The hook 2 is a nice one

  • @RhinoJoeOutdoors
    @RhinoJoeOutdoors 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for doing this video. I thought about trying to flip mine but I had already put switches in my electronics panel. Lol but I did do a review after having the kayak 9 months. It is really stable and you do a great job of demonstrating it

  • @hollandmassagereflexology2000
    @hollandmassagereflexology2000 4 роки тому +2

    Alex, your laugh @ 4:08 won me over. You are genuine! Love your videos. Subscribed!

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Thats awesome thank you, welcome to the family

  • @maikoutside
    @maikoutside 4 роки тому +2

    4:04 is like "when you don't read the users manual"! :-D :-D :-D

  • @mackb3164
    @mackb3164 4 роки тому +1

    Seems like it rolls more than the Titans before the secondary kicks in? The Slayer also has a much longer keel than the Titans; it should track better.

  • @Danxiong
    @Danxiong Рік тому

    For a 34 inch wide kayak this thing is extremely stable. It’s gonna feel a little tippy but the secondary stability is great!

  • @Davvidd702
    @Davvidd702 2 роки тому

    In your opinion what’s better this kayak or the old town 120 pdl?!?!

  • @BassGeek
    @BassGeek 4 роки тому +2

    Man I was rolling when you were on the front of the boat.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Lol gotta make the videos fun or nobody will watch lol 👍😁

  • @littlepig1313
    @littlepig1313 4 роки тому

    I know this video is slightly old.....but if you were choosing between this and the titan 12 or 13, which would you choose? Weight and size are not an issue in choice, and will be used for river fishing mostly.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      100% slayer max 12.6 you get everything the titan gives you plus more and less weight.

    • @TWC6724
      @TWC6724 3 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira Would you still say this? I’m looking at a Slayer or a Titan. I’m 250lb though.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  3 роки тому

      @@TWC6724 at 250 pounds I may look towards the Titans

  • @reelfishin6019
    @reelfishin6019 3 роки тому

    Amazing thanks for the demo! Can't wait for mine to finally get in.

  • @E094228
    @E094228 4 роки тому

    Native max or outback? Which is faster and more nimble? Do you prefer hobie or native drive?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Watch this comparison video ua-cam.com/video/An1MJ_YIjpc/v-deo.html

  • @giovannim5101
    @giovannim5101 4 роки тому +4

    It.s a Native Great company and now NATIVE/BONAFIDE YES....... MERRY CHRISTMAS

  • @LowellFrancisco
    @LowellFrancisco 4 роки тому

    How durable is the rudder when you drag it on cement, dirt, and rock? Or when loading it to your vehicle without damaging the rudder?

  • @ryanjones8530
    @ryanjones8530 4 роки тому +1

    330 lb man. Looking for good pedal kayak for lakes, inshore and ocean(maybe). Had a seaghost 130, Topwater 120 (nonpdl) and Wildreness Ride 115(not a fan). How would the Slayer Max compare with these? Topwater was most stable to me but Seaghost was good also.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      this slayer will be far more stable than the 120 non penal! for sure, and holding 500# is amazing

    • @doobydoggshit
      @doobydoggshit 4 роки тому

      The titan has a 600 pound capacity but it's heavy...

  • @MathewsFishing
    @MathewsFishing Рік тому

    Great video! I’m purchasing one this week

  • @fuenstock
    @fuenstock 4 роки тому

    How does the stability of the native 12.5 max compare to the newest hobie outback?

  • @christopherjacob6209
    @christopherjacob6209 4 роки тому

    If you had a choice between that one and the hobbie 360 which one would you chose

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +2

      $2000 more for the Hobie 360, I can add a BIxpy and a powerpole for that on this.... What would you get?

  • @MonsterChuck
    @MonsterChuck 4 роки тому

    Hey Aliex, your opinion on this stability vs the SS127? My wife and I are looking into moving on from the Bonafides as we are wanting to get into pedal drives. I am leaning towards the Titan and she is looking at the Slayer Max. Is this guy more stable than the SS127?

    • @doobydoggshit
      @doobydoggshit 4 роки тому

      I was looking at the SS127 as a paddle kayak until I ran into the slayer 12 xc... It's the slayer max without the pedal drive basically but it's built for rivers as well as lakes... It's probably the perfect kayak in my opinion lol

    • @MonsterChuck
      @MonsterChuck 4 роки тому

      @@doobydoggshit Mainly interested in the stability. If it is as stable to more stable than the Bonafide ss127 then it sounds perfect. Able to stand and move around in the Bonafide with no issues. If the Slayer Max is not as stable then I will prob opt for the Titan 13.5. I don't mind the weight and I don't have to go fast. Mainly fishing lakes. I have tree trunks for legs and cycle so I can pedal all day :)

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      i say teh slayer max is more stable than the ss127 and thats saying a lot

  • @benruthlessburger8905
    @benruthlessburger8905 4 роки тому

    Is it more stable than the predator pdl ? The other day I used my buddies pdl almost flipped twice landing a trout on the kayak.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      This is way more stable than the predator pdl, if you want old Town stability, try the Topwater 120

    • @benruthlessburger8905
      @benruthlessburger8905 4 роки тому

      Aliex Folgueira thanks aliex

  • @realdeal11382
    @realdeal11382 4 роки тому

    Alex, How is the stability on this compared to the Bonafide SS127? I have a SS127 thats why I was wondering (I want a peddle drive)

  • @richardsanchezjr.2273
    @richardsanchezjr.2273 4 роки тому

    You might have answered this already, but how does the Oldtown sportsman 120 PDL compare?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Standing up on the predator is very stable, because of the deep wall, seating? Not as good as this slayer

    • @richardsanchezjr.2273
      @richardsanchezjr.2273 4 роки тому

      Thank Aliex, awesome videos!

  • @luterobueno8024
    @luterobueno8024 4 роки тому

    The guy is a really good tightrope walker, congratulations.

  • @SunnyVangBruh
    @SunnyVangBruh 2 роки тому

    Is this faster then the slayer 13?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  2 роки тому

      No even close ua-cam.com/video/P_rDVb0YAds/v-deo.html

  • @michaelosullivan8288
    @michaelosullivan8288 4 роки тому

    That's mad kayak drifting lols and keep it up with great videos

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Will do!

    • @michaelosullivan8288
      @michaelosullivan8288 4 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira what is best kayak between Jonny bass 100 and Pelican pwr catch 100 and which is best without any waters getting in ya seats

  • @mindyburns7536
    @mindyburns7536 4 роки тому

    I am contemplating getting a Native Slayer Propel 10. My biggest concern is the weight. It would be more easier for me to load it when I go out by myself. I have had people suggest the Hobie Compass. The 12 isn't much more in weight and I should be able to handle it. It doesn't have the dry hatch up front or as much tracks as the Native. I am indecisive. I don't go into the marshes. We mostly go out on the lakes and rivers. Some of the rivers get very shallow and rocky. I've read the Slayer won't track as well as the Compass especially in faster moving water. Can you offer any suggestions. Thanks

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      It won't track as well because it is 2ft shorter, won't be as fast, you can always add a hatch to the front of the compass, I think compass is a better fit, not a big fan of the 10ft slayer

  • @adamharris2674
    @adamharris2674 4 роки тому

    Who is more stable between this one or the Topwater 120 PDL?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      This one is a bit more stable but we are splitting hairs

  • @mastermouaable
    @mastermouaable 4 роки тому

    Damm this is the yak I would probably buy as my pedal drive. I want the instant reverse and this should do it. The bottom hull looks almost like old town Topwater 120. It has crazy stability and looks fast on the water.

  • @ivancamp7716
    @ivancamp7716 3 роки тому

    Hay does the lynx come with a 360 set?

  • @bradjonesbass
    @bradjonesbass 4 роки тому

    I tested one and initial stability seemed tippy - but I’m 6’5”, 310, so... I’m debating between the Titan 12 and Titan 13.5.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I'm only 190, but even the titan would move a little... At your size I would probably get the 13

    • @bradjonesbass
      @bradjonesbass 4 роки тому

      Only thing holding me back is transport... but with the Sidekick I don’t think it’ll be bad. Just wheel it up to the truck

  • @joeyfletcher5658
    @joeyfletcher5658 4 роки тому

    How do you think this boat would do off shore or In rougher water with more current?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +2

      It has been offshore and it did great, just make sure to not let sand get in the rudder system.

    • @joeyfletcher5658
      @joeyfletcher5658 4 роки тому

      What happens to the rudder if you get sand in it?

  • @blazindragon296
    @blazindragon296 4 роки тому

    I'm getting mine tomorrow I cant wait!!! I got the copperhead color.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Amazing!!! Let me know how you like it after trying it 😀

    • @blazindragon296
      @blazindragon296 4 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira oh i definitely will!

  • @erk-1
    @erk-1 3 роки тому

    BTW, Whats your weight and height? Wanting to compare my weight and height to decide on this yak.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  3 роки тому

      5/11 190

    • @erk-1
      @erk-1 3 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira I’m 225 6’. I’m comparing this unit to the Recon, what do think?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  3 роки тому

      @@erk-1 splitting hairs in stability, but native slayer max is a far far far better boat

    • @erk-1
      @erk-1 3 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira Thank you for responding, I really enjoy your videos. God bless you

  • @donsolomon5792
    @donsolomon5792 4 роки тому

    Great vid, Aliex. How does this one do side by side with the Topwater 120 PDL? Same stability or is one better?

  • @anglersnkayaks8430
    @anglersnkayaks8430 4 роки тому

    Aliex, not a bad video, would like to know what a side-by-side comparison to the Old Town Topwater PDL, they appear to be similar in size, stability and propulsion.
    An s we know the TW 120 PDL is a very dry boat. - your thoughts?

  • @stoneygreek
    @stoneygreek 4 роки тому

    Alex, I have a PDL predator and im thinking of getting a Native Titan 12 I want super stability. whats your advice?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      If you want stability the titan 12 will be more stable

  • @mattwilkerson8432
    @mattwilkerson8432 4 роки тому

    Would you pick the slayer over the old town predator?

  • @51ddb
    @51ddb Рік тому

    Come on Alex! The Slayer is very stable, but if you do a Titan 12 vs Slayer comparison, it will be no contest. I believe the Titan will win primary and secondary, even with seat risers.

  • @chuckgilbert2035
    @chuckgilbert2035 2 роки тому

    Dude if your making any money off time we spend on your channel caulk me up for at least 8 hours yesterday. Great job! love your videos. Recovering from hernia surgery so I had a lot of time to research getting my first kayak and trying to learn to fish at 68 years old. Need an old man testing kayak review lol

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  2 роки тому +1

      Watching my videos is the best way to recover 😀😀 I hope you get better soon! You know it is never too late to start fishing it is a healing sport! Quick tip if you are gonna get a big kayak get a trailer if not get something lighter like the hobie passports or pelican 110 hdii also inflatables make be a great idea, the catch pwr 100 is also light 💡 I got videos on all those 😀 order more popcorn

    • @chuckgilbert2035
      @chuckgilbert2035 2 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira Thanks for the quick replay, I have trailers so not a big deal , Live in the nature coast and seem to be the only one not fishing. So I will be fishing the flats or rivers all the time.

    • @chuckgilbert2035
      @chuckgilbert2035 2 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira I figure if I am going the trailer way I may as well get a old town predator mk

  • @812yakcatfish8
    @812yakcatfish8 4 роки тому

    Is this kayak better and safer the old town top water 120 PDL faster

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +2

      About the same speed, safer? I think the 120 is better sealed

  • @maldrury8313
    @maldrury8313 4 роки тому +1

    So many things to like about this kayak however the rudder needs a complete re-think. Looks very flimsy and is in a position where it can be easily damaged. Need something like the Hobie PA where the rudder swings up for transporting. So close to perfection Native Watercraft but not quite there.

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      rudder def needs extra work, tons of useful features at not a bad price

  • @JulioSanchez-rh7nm
    @JulioSanchez-rh7nm 4 роки тому +1

    Duuude...
    That is a bad ass kayak!!
    What is the width and the weight?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      I think close to 90# plus the drive and seat 106#ish

  • @rasumiroelfilamor4991
    @rasumiroelfilamor4991 4 роки тому

    Hey aliex good day! You have been doing that for so long and i think your balance is well atuned to what you do... have it tested by novice and with categories height of person vs the length and wdth of the kayak vs the height ofnchair vs the weightbof the person...you know whatbi mean.. anyway nice work i enjoy seeing you flipping!

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Few problems with that, first getting someone new all the time to test it and second liability. A complete newbie gets on the kayak 2-3 times and will get a feel for it

    • @chuckgilbert2035
      @chuckgilbert2035 2 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira It should be like camping out at a boat ramp and watching newbie mistakes all day, might be the funniest video yet, Call it the what not to do kayaking lol

  • @TexasJungle
    @TexasJungle 4 роки тому

    Great video buddy! Great info!

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Texas!!! What yak are you getting next year?

    • @TexasJungle
      @TexasJungle 4 роки тому

      Not sure but I need a good one for lake and river! Stable but not heavy 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Sanctified_Leather
    @Sanctified_Leather 4 роки тому

    You are simply "Amazing Aliex" 😎👍. You "Slayed" this Video 😁👍

  • @F0RUM155
    @F0RUM155 4 роки тому +1

    I mean at this point these boats are all pretty comparable aren’t they?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Any boat with the cat hull would probably have about the same stability

  • @topdeckland7103
    @topdeckland7103 4 роки тому

    Great looking kayak there, but i love my 120 pdl

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Today's video will be a head by head slayer vs Topwater speed race

  • @londonpatrick1601
    @londonpatrick1601 2 роки тому

    But I did notice the peddle drive was a little cheaper then ca standards.

  • @SuperNelsonEddie
    @SuperNelsonEddie 4 роки тому

    Nice video. That kayak is crazy

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      It is crazy! It is not perfect though

    • @SuperNelsonEddie
      @SuperNelsonEddie 4 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira well I was waiting for your video on this kayak before I buy my first kayak. I am still kinda waiting to see some reviews on the New Vibe Shearwater 125 before I pull the trigger.

  • @thomascoyne7422
    @thomascoyne7422 4 роки тому

    How much water got in?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Lots, gotta make sure that front hatch seals good

  • @Gewgoal
    @Gewgoal 4 роки тому

    Is it faster than the predator pdl?

  • @ryanscube4091
    @ryanscube4091 4 роки тому

    Look like huge! Awesome 👍👍👍👍💯❣️

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      it is a big boat for sure but looks bigger than what it is

  • @adamw6271
    @adamw6271 4 роки тому

    How much does the kayak weigh?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +2

      I don't think the final numbers are out but it should weight 89# without the drive this can change of course 108# fully loaded

    • @Sanctified_Leather
      @Sanctified_Leather 4 роки тому

      95 lbs without the seat and Drive, 125lbs with the seat and Drive. It's a Heavy one

  • @robbiejohnson3698
    @robbiejohnson3698 4 роки тому

    That is the real deal great video I say all of the kayaks you demo you should get paid

  • @robertwhetstone5300
    @robertwhetstone5300 4 роки тому

    You crack me up! 😀

  • @huckfin1100
    @huckfin1100 Рік тому

    All kayaks will act the same when swaying back and fourth its the reach over side that determines flippability, in my opinion !

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  Рік тому

      No really, some are way harder than others to flip, some surprise you

  • @pmm422
    @pmm422 2 роки тому

    Titan? is the Titan next want to see you try to flip the Titan...

  • @basshunterusa2119
    @basshunterusa2119 4 роки тому

    More stable than hobie outback?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Yeah but the outback is table enough for most people

    • @basshunterusa2119
      @basshunterusa2119 4 роки тому

      Aliex Folgueira
      Is it faster than the outback?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      @@basshunterusa2119 nop outback is way faster

    • @basshunterusa2119
      @basshunterusa2119 4 роки тому

      Aliex Folgueira
      I appreciate you replying, i enjoy your vids. Thank you!

  • @lionsdejudah
    @lionsdejudah 4 роки тому

    I can Peddle my 2020 Hobie Pro Angler 14 in 7” of water.
    This drive system cannot.

  • @richardwynn8545
    @richardwynn8545 4 роки тому +1

    Is this the most stable kayak in your experience?

  • @rodneyhunt
    @rodneyhunt 4 роки тому

    Nice video Aliex!

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Thank you Rodney, took half my Saturday yesterday to make it but I'm happy about it

  • @FishingWithSalty
    @FishingWithSalty 4 роки тому

    Well done Aliex!

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks bro, we gotta fish together one day soon

    • @FishingWithSalty
      @FishingWithSalty 4 роки тому

      Aliex Folgueira we can make that happen for sure bro!🤙

  • @kayakrexadventure2308
    @kayakrexadventure2308 4 роки тому

    Nice one

  • @lionsdejudah
    @lionsdejudah 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the Review.
    But it seems like Garbage compared to my Pro Angler 14

  • @windowclean100
    @windowclean100 4 роки тому

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
    Nice one

  • @michaelosullivan8288
    @michaelosullivan8288 4 роки тому

    You definitely need some out riggers then won't have any flipping side of kayaks

  • @davidcrowson4745
    @davidcrowson4745 4 роки тому

    How much does it weigh?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому +1

      Over 86# for the hull 106# total estimates

  • @tonyshaw8537
    @tonyshaw8537 4 роки тому

    Good video Aliex. Looks like a good kayak.

  • @tjhoss6729
    @tjhoss6729 4 роки тому

    Hi Aliex🤗.
    Love watching your
    REVIEWS👌....TO BE HONEST it's wearing how much you use ARE CREATORS NAME so non shelonetly😪. I'M AWARE THAT YOU CLAIM HIS NAME, BUT MORE IMPORTANT ? IS DOES HE NO YOU? THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR YOU. keep up the amazing videos .lf you have any ?'s, massage me.love you😊

  • @F0RUM155
    @F0RUM155 4 роки тому

    Definitely doesn’t look as stable as the old town topwater

  • @mudduck6182
    @mudduck6182 4 роки тому +1

    It's to stable for you send it to me🙂

  • @nickfrancipane2763
    @nickfrancipane2763 4 роки тому

    ALIEX is this the most stable kayak you have tested so far?

    • @AliexFolgueira
      @AliexFolgueira  4 роки тому

      Memory is a tricky thing but yeah it is stable, you will only flip if something weird happens

    • @nickfrancipane2763
      @nickfrancipane2763 4 роки тому

      @@AliexFolgueira Thanks!