The Remaster Paradox: The Issue with Remasters & Remakes

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @DeadBeat_Dave
    @DeadBeat_Dave  День тому +2

    Thanks to everyone who watched and have enjoyed the video!
    I definitely made some mistakes with this one and wanted to address them here
    1. I honestly had no idea that the SpongeBob BFBB Rehydrated was a full-on remake. It was just so convincingly similar to play that I was sure it was just a remaster. I should have looked into that more. Though that doesn't change how much I really do enjoy that game and how much I like the style of remake that tries to pass as a remaster in how similar they get the new version of the game. An example I should have used of a good remaster would be the Halo 2 remaster from 2014. It corrected everything what was wrong with the Halo CE remaster. A massive graphical improvement that really kept the spirit of the original art direction intact. (Though I know there are issues with its multiplayer, I'll leave that alone here)
    2. I enjoyed and purchased the new Last of us Part 1 on PC. My criticism was of the way they made committed PlayStation players pay full price for the same game three times. I think my issue more lies with the 2014 remaster coming out at full price just a year after the original game, rather than this new remake of the gameplay being full price ten years after that.

  • @CalamariPlaysStarfield
    @CalamariPlaysStarfield 16 днів тому +49

    The Mafia remake was pure cinema

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT 5 днів тому +1

      One of the few times where I was a "new gen" fan of something, but ended up liking the original most. Before the Definitive Edition came out, Mafia II to me was the face of franchise.

    • @032_m.alfathcirrus5
      @032_m.alfathcirrus5 3 дні тому

      I really like the screen writing the most, the way Tommy's clothes got all messy in the beginning, how Sam's hand got all shaky in the ending when Tommy confronted him. Pure cinema, just as Scorcese wanted.

  • @Teh69thSpartan
    @Teh69thSpartan 15 днів тому +25

    Like movies.... We mostly keep getting sequel after sequel after sequel, remake after remake after remake, remaster after remaster after remaster, reboot after reboot after reboot, reimagining after reimagining after reimagining and so on

    • @sergeoperu
      @sergeoperu 4 дні тому

      @@Teh69thSpartan and then we got no Disco Elysium 2

    • @dustinakadustin
      @dustinakadustin День тому

      @@Teh69thSpartan so many people ask for sequels to classic games so it's not surprising that we get so many

  • @michaelulloa2179
    @michaelulloa2179 3 дні тому +4

    Another great remaster to me. COD MWR. I began my COD journey in cod 4 and I was blown away with how much care was put into the remaster. That tease at the end of the Infinite warfare trailer sent shockwaves through the community. What a time to be alive.

  • @NoCluYT
    @NoCluYT 5 днів тому +5

    The only issue with TLOU1 remake was the price on PS5. It was excellent and really made the game seem as if it came out today with all the fancy graphics, smoothness, etc, but full price was pushing it. Should've been $50 USD.

  • @DoctorZombo
    @DoctorZombo 18 днів тому +31

    The meaning of these words also lose meaning because even publishers are insisting on labelling remakes with the word "remaster", as "remaster" has a less negative meaning.
    And no, Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated is not an example of a remaster, even if it plays very close to how the original played: All of its assets have been redone with wholly different pipelines, even if some of the underlying code is the same.
    Just because it gives "the same experience" (with huge quotation marks here), doesn't mean it has not been made again; If a movie was filmed again, recreated shot for shot with the same dialogue, cinematography editing, pacing... You wouldn't call that a remaster, it is a remake because it was literally made again.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  18 днів тому +2

      Hmm, I hadn't thought to get that technical with it. It makes sense at that point to realistically call the game a remake. It being JUST SO similar to the original really had me convinced that it just had the graphical uplift that developers accomplish in a remaster.

    • @moonfrostgaming1988
      @moonfrostgaming1988 18 днів тому +2

      Yeah. The GTA Definitive Edition games are technically remakes done in UE4. If it was in the same engine but running at higher res and fps then yeah, a remaster. But running on a completely different engines wiry new assets sounds like remakes to me...albeit a little rushed and incomplete (in some parts) remakes.

    • @tomparkin2068
      @tomparkin2068 18 днів тому +1

      @@DoctorZombo I keep saying this, but I’m certain that Activision kicked this whole semantic change off with Crash and Spyro, then with THPS. They marketed them all to be experiences that look and play exactly how you remember them - and then slapped ‘remastered’ on their branding probably to encourage sales, because ‘remake’ implies change and is therefore too much of a risk - despite the fact that they ARE remakes.
      Now we’re seeing publishers left, right and centre do it. Tomb Raider Remastered? Remake. Metroid Prime Remastered? Remake. Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster? Remake. In fact hardly any of the remasters we see these days are actually remasters at all.
      If you’re making a game to recreate an original, and aren’t using the same assets down to the last pixel on a blade of grass, then it’s a remake.

    • @americasteam2112
      @americasteam2112 16 днів тому

      Like a Dragon: Ishin! Is called a remake by people and the devs but it’s just a really good remaster.

  • @PlanetShlorpian
    @PlanetShlorpian 17 днів тому +45

    RockStar is a really bad example. They always half ass their ports and "remasters." GTA Trilogy and RDR1 were bad because RockStar gets away with being shitty in that regard because they do every major release right. If GTA Trilogy was on par with GTA 5 and RDR1 was on par with RDR2, then people wouldn't be complaining. Sadly it doesn't seem like Rockstar gives a fuck enough about their older games to give them a proper remake or remaster.

    • @alkhoaja
      @alkhoaja 17 днів тому +5

      And their prices too, like RDR1 is like 50 dollars on PC and PS4 and Nintendo Switch

    • @ghost.97
      @ghost.97 17 днів тому +2

      Which is so weird to me because if they did a full remake like mafia they’d literally make a killing but i guess Rockstar being who they are make big profit either way

    • @americasteam2112
      @americasteam2112 16 днів тому +7

      RDR1 is just a port and not a remaster. I rather have a simple port than remaster like the GTA Definitive Edition Trilogy. That alone makes the port great because it’s the same classic game without any stupid changes that would ruin it. People just say it is bad because they wanted it to be remade using RDR2 assets.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  16 днів тому +4

      Exactly. It's why they're a GREAT example of how not to do remakes or remasters lol
      Just let me put my OG xbox vice city disc in my series X and give me a framerate boost. I'd have way less to complain about

    • @PlanetShlorpian
      @PlanetShlorpian 16 днів тому +1

      @DeadBeat_Dave Yeah. Say what you will about Sony's remakes and remasters, but at least they all do the job well. They're pretty substantial upgrades to the previous version, like the first Last of Us. Part 2 was a little less ambitious as it was just the same game with some extra content added. Even the Horizon remaster made the first game better. But it's arguable that the remasters of GTA 3, Vice City and San Andres are far worse versions than the originals, and while RDR1 wasn't "bad" per say, it was the most pathetic excuse for a re release imaginable lol.

  • @herbg4866
    @herbg4866 День тому +1

    The rule is if the remake is good it was needed if it was bad it wasn’t
    We win when we win and we lose when we lose

  • @celebrityzombiesdie
    @celebrityzombiesdie 18 днів тому +46

    great vid, the halo ce remaster is garbage. All the artistic taste just sucked out of that game with the remaster. OG CE has soul.

    • @messystudios8505
      @messystudios8505 18 днів тому +4

      I thought it had the option to play with thr original graphics? I might be getting confused with halo 2.

    • @marsinvader9078
      @marsinvader9078 18 днів тому +6

      Main issue is brightness and busyness, rooms that were completely dark and ambient were turned into florescent light shows and anything that had a "Less is more" design was replaced with somebody's $5k rgb pc build

    • @HaLoFreQ2000
      @HaLoFreQ2000 18 днів тому +2

      Now I hear they are about to do a halo CE remake.

    • @teneesh3376
      @teneesh3376 17 днів тому +3

      But at the same time, the newer graphics are optional. And it's an overall improvement, for the most part. The controls and frame rate is so much better than the original.
      The ones that weren't improved are a few things. The load screen isn't as atmospheric and I found a consistent glitch. Certain sections would just not have plasma pistol glow or Hunter shot glow show. So you can't anticipate when they will shoot. It only happens in small sections. But it's consistent

    • @marsinvader9078
      @marsinvader9078 17 днів тому +3

      @@teneesh3376 I love the remaster for that and the new aspect ratio, 343 did do a lot to make it more accurate after mcc launched too, and it is fun to switch back and forth if only to make me appreciate the original, and getting to drop into matchmaking is great.
      The only real issue is that someone who never played CE might assume the remaster is the defacto way to play and have a more generic experience.

  • @Coffee.Official
    @Coffee.Official 16 днів тому +23

    Mafia definitive edition isn't remaster, its a remake

    • @1111kila
      @1111kila 9 годин тому +1

      @@Coffee.Official did you even watch the video before posting this comment? He literally said "the mafia remake" 5 seconds in

  • @aussieknuckles
    @aussieknuckles 18 днів тому +6

    I clicked on the video then chucked it down and listened to it while I was folding washing, half way in I had to have a gander as the Quality of what I was listening to was so high, and too no surprise, you are a small channel creator! Literals its the small channels keeping UA-cam alive in my opinion (Not channels like mine though lol, mines just a Clip dumping ground 95% of the time lmao).
    Great video man, highly enjoyed. I love the Mafia games too, I always remember buying (again) another xbox at the time just for that Halo remaster, and was so dissatisfied by the 3D effect (3D TV) compared to other games with the same feature.

  • @rakuraimaster9925
    @rakuraimaster9925 2 дні тому +1

    I always thought a remaster was building onto the game using the code already there, a remake making an old game completely from scratch, and a reboot as a reset of everything in that franchise

  • @saltwiththat
    @saltwiththat 20 днів тому +11

    Great video mate.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  18 днів тому

      Thank you! Glad my rambling didn't put you off 🤣🤣

  • @MartGC
    @MartGC 17 днів тому +4

    Other really great Remasters are Crash Bandicoot Trilogy, Spiro Reignated Trilogy and the original Tomb Raider Trilogy. All great and exactly the same content, as they used to be, just way better looking now. Although i'm not quite sure, if they cold be called "Remasters", because all of those were completly redone faithfully in a new engine, not just slapped new textures onto the old game. So how are these called then? They're kind of a remake/remaster mixture.
    Same goes for Day of the Tentacle and Monkey Island Remasters, where you can even choose between old and new graphics ingame, that's quite a fun option to compare, same with the Tomb Raider trilogy.

  • @rafaelluciano5596
    @rafaelluciano5596 4 дні тому +1

    I'm not 100% sure if I agree with the breakdown of definitions here. I think it's important to delineate if the game is using a different engine or not, much like distinguishing if a film merely touched up old footage or had new filming take place. To bring an existing game to modern systems with a new engine and maybe some graphical tweaks is simply a port. We have seen those since then Atari era, and a port can go up or down depending on the hardware it's ported to (think Persona 5 being a PS3 game at its core. It got ported to the PS4. It then got an enhanced re-release. That re-then got ports to PC, Xbox, switch and PS5) I would argue most things branded as remasters that are targeting new hardware platforms are mostly ports.
    SpongeBob/crash/spyro then would be a remake. Similar framework but an entirely new engine with all but the fundamental design redone. Persona 3 Reload and Resi 4 falls under this. A reboot should be used when the title of a previous game is used and the franchise is attempting a rebrand. Tombraider, Doom, Sonic the hedgehog (06) etc.
    and then we have what Square is doing with FF7 which I think is where much of the modern confusion stems from.. that's a sequel marketed as a remake.

  • @patrickdodson1713
    @patrickdodson1713 17 днів тому +3

    You already mentioned the Mafia remake, but another favourite from-the-ground-up remake is Outcast: Second Contact. They completely redid that one several years ago and it looks great. Remakes and remasters should be reserved for old games like these that can no longer be played on current hardware. One example of a terrible remake would be XIII. The original game scaled up very nicely to modern systems, and its cel-shaded simplicity was part of the charm. The remake fundamentally misunderstood what made the original release a fun game, removed everything unique about it and looks just like every other FPS out there.

  • @harrytwood
    @harrytwood 13 днів тому +3

    Love the Mafia Trilogy, all games are awesome but wish all three could’ve been done better. 👍🏻

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  8 днів тому

      They're all great in their own ways. But yeah, none are exactly 10/10 games (Though Mafia 2 is def pretty close in my book)
      Very much looking forward to this new prequel though!

    • @Yawnford
      @Yawnford 2 дні тому

      Imo, the Mafia games are mid games that have a really great story

    • @DoctorMantisTob0ggan
      @DoctorMantisTob0ggan День тому

      What they should do is remake all the games from the ground up like that and fix the issues plaguing the current ones. After all that, enough time should have passed where Mafia 4 can be a 70s Vegas based story & all or most of the music would be public domain.

  • @armedhyde1448
    @armedhyde1448 9 годин тому

    The term you’re looking for is "reimagined." A well-known example of this is the 2003 reboot of Battlestar Galactica. Same themes, different approach.

  • @EfrainQuezada
    @EfrainQuezada 19 годин тому

    Also gotta include destroy all humans, Tony hawk and yakuza remakes

  • @phil_matic
    @phil_matic 17 годин тому

    As someone who was a massive fan of The Last of Us, I will say I ABSOLUTELY hated the idea of The Last of Us Part 1 on the PS5, and I HATED how they marketed it as a "remake" when it was a remaster at its very best. Nothing has changed about it gameplay wise, and it did not deserve the title of remake in the slightest. The second thing about it that really irked me was the price. They wanted to sell it as if it were a brand new game when not much has really changed since the PS4 remaster. If it had been sold at $30 USD, I'd be fine with it, but no way was it worth the $70 or whatever new games go for nowadays. Additionally, what pissed me off so much about it was the diehard Sony fanboys would defend its existence as a remake. As you have said, The Last of Us pt 1 was a remaster of a remaster, but no way was Sony going to market it as such because they know it wouldn't sell.

  • @nerad1994
    @nerad1994 День тому

    I’ve been playing the silent hill remake and I have to say as someone who’s never played silent hill, it’s amazing and highly worth it for the eerie story

  • @veltonpires8199
    @veltonpires8199 18 днів тому +5

    Forgot Demons Souls... Its a clear remake with 99,9% identical playability from original game

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  18 днів тому +2

      Ohhh I've heard that's a good one. I've personally haven't played any of the Souls games, so using that one as an example didn't come to mind.
      Should I get around to playing them at some point...?

    • @KillahMate
      @KillahMate 18 днів тому +1

      @@DeadBeat_Dave the PS5 Demons Souls is actually a great place to start, imo. It's not as difficult (or annoying) as some parts of some latter entries get, and it's a great version even if some changes do rub dedicated fans the wrong way. The term I've heard used for games like it and the PS4 Shadow of the Colossus etc is 'Visual Remake' - complete visual (sometimes audio) overhaul, but minor or no changes to content or mechanics.

    • @dustinwalters2728
      @dustinwalters2728 18 днів тому +4

      It’s funny, a lot of people feel the same way about Demon’s Souls PS5 that he feels about Halo, but I felt like the atmosphere was great. I’m almost glad I never played the original because my experience with the remake was so enjoyable.

    • @Indigo_1001
      @Indigo_1001 День тому

      @@DeadBeat_Dave
      I don’t get why you call this one good while criticizing The Last of Us remake?
      Both are literally identical in how much they “remade” from the original. Both even had gameplay improvements.

  • @GNFNR
    @GNFNR 17 днів тому

    Love hearing that halo ce is your favorite game, its my favorite halo game too! I loved it even more when i went back and played it on the OG graphics, there was a great video explaining how the game was “ruined” in a sense by the new graphics. Ever since i saw that video about 3 years ago, i always try to play the original version of a game rather than a remake or remaster, as i like to think its the developers vision if that makes sense

  • @FloppysRemix
    @FloppysRemix 18 днів тому +1

    Great video bro, keep it up 👍

  • @saprathegreek7738
    @saprathegreek7738 15 днів тому

    The mafia 1 remake for me is very good and im glad they did it, i finished it first on pc and then on ps5 for the platinum, loved it. Gta san Andreas when it came out i was seeing the videos and was disappointed but i can actually say that if you play it now on ps5 its very good almost no bugs and its so awesome to actually read the signs and the texts that they had made back in 2004, i have finished gta san probably 10 and more times in different consoles,pc,ps2,ps3 and now ps5 and mobile original and ps5 is very good edition

  • @colinwatt9387
    @colinwatt9387 15 днів тому

    In the GTA3 remaster, I failed the mission where you drive a guy to the dogfood factory to be killed, because he died in the dogfood factory.

  • @jamesmorris7844
    @jamesmorris7844 11 днів тому

    Another category would be game we want on new platforms, instead of having to deal with console limitations like the Original Infamous.

  • @Dral.09
    @Dral.09 4 дні тому

    Also people for years want a NFSU2 and Most Wanted remake, although I think what they (and I) want is a remaster, but the chances of EA screw up are frightening to be honest 😬
    Like TDU SC in this case a remake (not remaster) would be more than enough to sell well, much more than what they are selling. Can't understand how they screw up

  • @jordansis0257
    @jordansis0257 3 дні тому

    I think that remaster shouldn’t really be made for games that are only one generation old such as until dawn or horizon zero dawn. Remasters or remakes for games older than one generation can be extremely fun such as the mafia definitive edition as the original isn’t available on modern consoles and it is also extremely outdated. I wish that there would be more remakes and remasters like that as some of my favourite video games series are still stuck on the ps3 such as the Motorstorm trilogy

  • @Beanszo
    @Beanszo 20 днів тому +1

    fire vid bro! keep it up!

  • @zombiegamercat777
    @zombiegamercat777 17 днів тому

    Reworks, as you put it, can be done great if it's not a cash grab and made by people who know what they're doing and actually care. Great video bro.

  • @theoutsiderjess1869
    @theoutsiderjess1869 17 днів тому

    Im actually glad i picked up last of us part 2 with naughty dog track record it was only a matter of time before a remaster or a ps5 upgrade and waited to play it

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  17 днів тому

      Yeah, I did like the fact that the New Part II had new content. The unreleased levels were a really cool inclusion.

  • @kingtyty5
    @kingtyty5 7 годин тому

    The halo remaster is not what bad. Yes the graphics are changed. But at the end of the day its still OG Halo:CE

  • @MuscleCarLover
    @MuscleCarLover 16 днів тому

    Visual quality of the video wasn't that great in places (don't know if that was Firefox acting up or something), but the audio balancing, the format and the structure of the video made up for that. So, good video overall

  • @samjiman
    @samjiman 9 днів тому

    TBH the Mafia remake was good and all, but it made me want to replay the original as they put some of the mission game play (e.g. assinating Sergio) into cutscenes which was gameplay before. Even a QTE would have been nice, and TBH I preferred the more Hollywood voice acting over the gruff, possibly more realistic voice acting. I suppose good thing about most remakes is that we still have the original. Also RE4 Remake there was stuff I liked (looks great, knife durability is both good and bad) and didnt like (Salazar was a downgrade presence wise) Glad to have the OG in my collection too.

  • @ioandavies8864
    @ioandavies8864 18 днів тому +1

    I think reprise would be a good general term.

  • @dozenothere
    @dozenothere 18 днів тому

    chil lil vid i like it. worst part abt gta trilogy was how quick they unlisted all the original games, damn shame

  • @kennywilkinson913
    @kennywilkinson913 5 днів тому

    They should just call them 'resuscitations'.

  • @mohamedashraf-yh1gz
    @mohamedashraf-yh1gz 7 днів тому

    Wolfenstien: The New Order was released in 2014 not 2019.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  7 днів тому

      Yeah, In my script's rough draft, I threw the 2019 date in, mistaking it for that Wolfenstein: Youngblood's release date, but never looked into it to correct my placeholder.

  • @colinturley2626
    @colinturley2626 18 днів тому +1

    MAN I LOVE ALAN WAKE XBOX 360 EDITION.
    you know what's crazy, i am barly a gen z i was born in 2010 i was a baby when the xbox 360 was still pouplar,
    yet i love retro games, and the xbox 360, i have one.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  18 днів тому +1

      I just started the OG Alan Wake on 360, pretty good intro. Need to find more time to continue playing it lol

    • @JayTheComputerGuy
      @JayTheComputerGuy 18 днів тому

      @@DeadBeat_Dave last game(I think) my dad beat! I love alan wake so much

    • @colinturley2626
      @colinturley2626 18 днів тому

      you know i have only played alan wake 2, but i am excited to play the first one,
      it looks good and i also just really like retro gameing.

    • @Nikzmat
      @Nikzmat 16 днів тому

      I was born in 2012 I had a 360 but I only played it 2017 onwards and I had alot of fun my core memories were forza motorsport 4, and minecraft the 360 edition

    • @Nikzmat
      @Nikzmat 16 днів тому

      but I have a series x now so I'm playing a mix of xbone or series x games with 360 backwards comp(halo mcc), fallout 3, new Vegas and 4 etc

  • @nayftv
    @nayftv 4 дні тому

    Mafia 1 remake was the gold standard a game that really needed it and extremely well done where as the mafia 2 remaster was ok but it was free as I owned the original on steam so 2k did great with that and I still have the original in my library and they gave me all the dlc for mafia 3 for free so 2k gave us a masterclass in how to do it …. Rockstar that is owed by the same parent company as 2k take 2 shows us how not to do it the gta difnitve trilogy took 3 years to get them to an almost fixed level that it should have been at release and as great as it to have the original red dead redemption in my steam library to play on my steam deck it was the same price I payed on ps3 14 years ago then there’s the final fantasy 7 reamake changing the story a bit for new experience in a familiar world only played the first one so far so good

  • @cellophanezebra4663
    @cellophanezebra4663 8 днів тому

    Uhhh Spongebob Rehydrated is a remake built from the ground up, they just used some of the basics to feel like the original game

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  8 днів тому

      So I've been told lol
      To me, they did such a good job, I didn't really realize that it wasn't just a fresh "Coat of paint"
      Knowing this, I do really like this style of remake, where it's so convincingly similar to the original that it can be mistaken for a just a remaster.

  • @johnjohnson7743
    @johnjohnson7743 2 дні тому

    I was sceptical about the last of us part 1, but when I played it through ps plus, I got it. Rewatching scenes from the original game really showed the effort they did. It's not a full remake though more of a visual remake. I think it was overpriced but it's perfect as a subscription game. I think you've dismissed this one a little too quickly.

  • @faizaliqbal2284
    @faizaliqbal2284 3 дні тому

    YO, YOU'RE A LIONS FAN?? LET'S GOOOO

  • @moonfrostgaming1988
    @moonfrostgaming1988 18 днів тому +11

    I loved Resident Evil 4 as an RE game...not so much as a RE4 remake. They made too many changes in my opinion, many of them not for the best, but just for difference's sake.

    • @hgmd3284
      @hgmd3284 18 днів тому +2

      you really didnt like RE4 Remake.

    • @moonfrostgaming1988
      @moonfrostgaming1988 18 днів тому +3

      @hgmd3284 I thought it could've been a better standalone RE game and not a remake of 4. It's a great game, but imo it jumbles the story and sequence of events too much.

    • @jaydenbeasty
      @jaydenbeasty 18 днів тому +4

      ​@@moonfrostgaming1988 the story and sequence of events are literally better in the remake

    • @AndreiCatalin42069
      @AndreiCatalin42069 18 днів тому +1

      ​@@moonfrostgaming1988 that's kinda how i feel about the current remakes, good games on their own but as remakes they are mediocre af, it would have been so cool if their gameplay was used for RE8-9 onwards instead.

  • @dfshjb44
    @dfshjb44 8 днів тому

    I feel like the truly remarkable remasters/remakes are few and far between. Most of the time they are either sloppily made cash grabs that prey on nostalgia, or they are too different from the original game and change the overall artistic vision. All remasters should be like Halo MCC where you can switch graphics to the OG whenever you want. If devs are worried the graphical difference between old and new isn't large enough to include this feature, maybe they shouldn't be remastering it in the first place.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  8 днів тому

      Yeah, I love the way the Halo remasters let you switch back and forth. I can't believe more games don't include that feature.

  • @cokedupnormies2651
    @cokedupnormies2651 4 дні тому

    11:30 Mutahar Paaji explains it really well

  • @michaelgualtierijr5434
    @michaelgualtierijr5434 7 годин тому

    Dead space remake was good but arguably didn't need it and silent hill 2 remake totally missed the point and shit all over the original direction

  • @toastydanny9136
    @toastydanny9136 17 днів тому +1

    Wolfenstein reboot was in 2014, not 2019

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  16 днів тому

      opps, I meant to go back and double check this when I initially wrote it down

  • @rapappathepepper3996
    @rapappathepepper3996 17 днів тому

    Oh boy i am tired of too many remasters and remakes nowadays.
    Klonoa: Phantasy Reverie Series was really disappointing for a Klonoa fan like me who has been there before it, sure, Klonoa is back was a cool thing, but it felt very short-lived with the remaster being just, okay at best and not living up to the originals, and even suffer with your points with the Halo remaster mentioned in the video, though people were saying all sorts of positive things about it, because it was a hostage situation kind of game so people DID NOT want to criticize because they were really desperate for a new game so they don't want to say issues afraid to look like a fake fan, but as a fan, i think the series deserved better, specially when it was dead for so long, but even then, it just sort of completely lost its steam, and it's also because they are remasters, mediocre at that, both Door to Phantomile and Lunatea's Veil are not very good games at keeping the talk going for so long, and artistically they are butchered in the remasters.

  • @JosiahTT
    @JosiahTT 19 днів тому +1

    subbed, very good video!

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  18 днів тому +1

      I appreciate that! It was a fun one to put together, I'm glad you liked it!

  • @shawn22stl
    @shawn22stl 17 днів тому +1

    remasters don't really do it for me, there's no additional content and they play worse.

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT 5 днів тому

      Yeah for me it's either remake or go home. However I feel like the rumoured god of war remasters might challenge my stance.

  • @charlesman8722
    @charlesman8722 8 днів тому

    Or… or… the just rerelease the older games and make something NEW.

  • @ptaylor81
    @ptaylor81 16 днів тому

    People are dumb enough to purchase all these remakes and remasters. If people stopped buying them, we would get new ip instead bc remakes/remasterers make no money. I only play og games on the og hardware

  • @1983jcheat
    @1983jcheat 15 днів тому

    Sleeping Dogs remastered was great. 😊

  • @tristanraine
    @tristanraine 17 днів тому

    I'm surprised Alan Wake Remaster wasn't mentioned since you have the OG on your desk, that's an example of a remaster that's a bit messy depending on the hardware you're on (why does vertex explosions happen when you're above 60fps on AMD hardware)
    Another good example of a remake is Persona 3. I have my nitpicks but Persona 3 Reload overall is a very good remake.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  16 днів тому

      I've only just began my playthrough of the original, and don't have the remake. So not being able to really comment on whether the remake is good or not kept me from mentioning it here.

  • @Targoon_Music
    @Targoon_Music 18 днів тому

    i'm a pc guy and played last of us remake recently
    watched some comparisons with the og ps3 and boy they really did a good job. but the ps4 version of it? to my eyes it's the same thing only re released
    another great example of a remake is ff7 remake. the game is so polished and beautiful that it will leave you speechless
    and it's a shame what they did with the gta trilogy. those games deserved a full ground up remake like mafia or ff7 or last of us, i hope someone out there does it sometime
    speaking of which, someone is remaking the nfs ug2! and i bet you he's doing a better job than if ea games was going to do it

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  18 днів тому

      Yeah, I never played the PS3 version, but late in the PS4 Gen got a used one that came with a copy of the remaster. It was a fantastic game, but I agree the PS4 just needed a port or backwards compatibility. The new PC remaster is awesome, I bought it for preservation's sake. I just feel bad for all the PlayStation folks who needed to buy the same game at full price three separate times.

    • @moonfrostgaming1988
      @moonfrostgaming1988 18 днів тому +1

      The PS4 version of The Last of Us was just meant to bring the game to 1080p and 60fps and that's it. It was basically the original vision but the PS3 couldn't handle it. It's basically more of a cross-generation port than a remaster, they just chose to name it that way.
      Another good example is GTA V. The PS4/Xbox One/PC version is basically a cross-generation release for the same reason. The PS3 and 360 couldn't handle the game at its original full vision, so compromises had to be made.
      But the PS4 and Xbox One versions came only a few months later, meaning they were already working on these versions before the og release in 2013. The PC version is still the definitive even if the PS5/Series X release has very basic "ray tracing".

  • @theoutsiderjess1869
    @theoutsiderjess1869 17 днів тому

    I know insomniac remastered spiderman ps4 just so everyone can get used to the new apeter parker face going forward. Instead of just showing it in miles and 2.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  16 днів тому

      The new face thing still really bugs me. Was there ever like, an official reason for the change? Because I liked the original character model much more. It felt more like it fit the voice, as that's how the game was originally made and designed. The change felt SO forced.

    • @theonurminen7064
      @theonurminen7064 14 днів тому

      Peter looks like a Ubisoft side quest character in the remaster

  • @Sixma-ej5vp
    @Sixma-ej5vp 17 днів тому

    Can you give me a list of the background music used in the video?

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  16 днів тому

      "Under Cover" from the Halo Infinite Soundtrack
      "New Bordeaux Theme" from Mafia 3 Soundtrack
      "Peril" From Halo 2 Soundtrack
      Custom song made by my brother "Arrival"
      "Deference of Darkness" ODST Soundtrack
      "Under Cover" again
      "Let me drown" Another custom one as the outro plays. My little brother makes some dope stuff

    • @Sixma-ej5vp
      @Sixma-ej5vp 16 днів тому +1

      @@DeadBeat_Dave Thank You so much! Your bro is amazing for making music.

  • @Foxy8392-k5f
    @Foxy8392-k5f 16 днів тому

    Personally I don’t like mafia remake. Changes to screenplay are not great. Playing on console does not allow you to disable motion blur which made me sick. It takes control from the player and makes it more on rails. Fake accents also were not great. I prefer outdated Mafia on PC

  • @zodiacthundaga7264
    @zodiacthundaga7264 17 днів тому

    Stop remaking games if the original's not on PC.
    Remasters are still the same game.

  • @shlakenjake
    @shlakenjake 17 днів тому

    I finally got to play Last of Us Remake on PS5 after it was free for PS Plus Premium, and I think it does the same thing CE Anniversary did. On a technical level it looks "better." But I think so much of the moody atmosphere was left behind. A lot of the spores that used to be thick looking and covered every square inch of a room now just look like a decently dusty area. Many of the super dark areas that forced you to use a flashlight are now naturally blooming to show you the detail. I would argue the gameplay is slightly worse, but that's more opinion-based. If I were to get someone to play Last of Us for the first time, I would suggest the PS4 version. I think the PS5 version will go down as one of the most unnecessary rereleases of all time.

  • @tomparkin2068
    @tomparkin2068 18 днів тому +3

    Remaster = enhanced port - everything is the exact same down to the last blade of grass, but in higher definition.
    Remake = a spectrum. Can be anything from a direct 1:1 recreation (most “remasters” that we see are actually remakes in that regard), or a reimagining. It’s literally in the name.
    Reboot = same IP but rehashed to remove itself from the original works.

  • @Joelasoglez
    @Joelasoglez 12 днів тому +2

    Well, this aged like milk.

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  12 днів тому +2

      haha bro. like literally a week after uploading they go and update the game 🤣🤣 Though that shouldn't excuse the poor state it launched in

    • @boracao
      @boracao 11 днів тому +1

      took them 3 years to fix tthe atmosphere.. so not really

    • @Joelasoglez
      @Joelasoglez День тому +1

      @@DeadBeat_Dave true, it felt like it was still in beta testing. 😂

  • @nikobellic8002
    @nikobellic8002 14 днів тому

    Not everything is remaked and remastered. You remake if it's toooo old and unplayable but today's standards. You don't remake 10 year old game...

  • @teneesh3376
    @teneesh3376 17 днів тому

    Ive hated remakes that are basically the same as the original but with new graphics. Older graphics are great and they are making the game from scratch for the same experience.
    It's why Im fine with HD ports. They keep the same exact game and improve the tiniest things that actually need improving.
    Shadows of the damned. Just a higher frame rate and motion aiming as an option improves so much.
    Metroid prime does have a new art direction. But it's still the same wii code and does give us more control options.
    Crash bandicoot nsane trilogy is one I dont care for. Because if you were to compare in terms of gameplay, a lot of it is worse than the originals. And again, brand new code for the same experience but worse

  • @gtsonev1988
    @gtsonev1988 16 днів тому

    GTAIV deserves a remaster. A PC, PS4 and PS5 version.

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 16 днів тому +3

      A remake but with the original colour grading as it fit the tone.

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT 5 днів тому +1

      @@SOM-v4o I feel like they can still match the tone without that piss colour. It's honestly my least favourite thing about the game.

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 5 днів тому

      I thought the yellow color was ugly too, but trust me. Someone modded it without the yellow tint, and it definitely made the game feel a lighter tone. I couldn't believe that I missed the yellow tint myself.

  • @crazyloonagirl
    @crazyloonagirl 18 днів тому +1

    I agree with a lot of your point in this video. I find myself hunting down original versions of games to keep the authenticity of the experience. A lot of remasters and especially remakes fiddle too much with the original vision of the games and or cut corners or content (resident evil remakes 2 ,3 and 4 come to mind)

    • @moonfrostgaming1988
      @moonfrostgaming1988 18 днів тому

      I think Resident Evil 2 for the most kept everything very nicely or made it better without massive changes. 3 and 4 changed too much, specially 3 which is a totally different game.

  • @horticultural261
    @horticultural261 5 днів тому

    So only answer is REMAKE

  • @krazyhatter6479
    @krazyhatter6479 4 дні тому

    And when they make New games they are usually ass (example star wars outlaws)

  • @TitanicLodsnu
    @TitanicLodsnu 15 днів тому

    Best remaster is Tomb raider now :-)

    • @DeadBeat_Dave
      @DeadBeat_Dave  7 днів тому

      I haven't played them, the originals or the new remasters. But I've been hearing good things about them for sure

  • @jaydenbeasty
    @jaydenbeasty 18 днів тому

    Remakes of old games get too much hate before and after the game comes out its a way for new people to play the game not just for the old players if the old players dont like it, its not like the original is going anywhere and nostalgia is so strong that people actually think every remakes completely sucks even tho some do pass the original like mafia 1 remake thar game is miles better then the original.

    • @ZeldynCZ
      @ZeldynCZ 18 днів тому +1

      @@jaydenbeasty Remake of Mafia is kinda mid

    • @AndreiCatalin42069
      @AndreiCatalin42069 18 днів тому

      @@ZeldynCZ fr, fancier graphics but the story, characters, character looks, art direction and va are quite different and weaker imo, not bad but worse, also it does not have the original game's music

    • @jaydenbeasty
      @jaydenbeasty 17 днів тому

      @ZeldynCZ then you must hate the original because its much worse

    • @jaydenbeasty
      @jaydenbeasty 17 днів тому

      @@AndreiCatalin42069 L opinion everything you said was better in the remake

    • @AndreiCatalin42069
      @AndreiCatalin42069 17 днів тому

      @@jaydenbeasty nah, i don't think so. And i don't even have nostalgia for it, i played the original for the first time like one year before the remake came out, the remake is a fine game on it's own but pretty mid as a remake, still, it is better than some other remakes i played so there's that.

  • @dustinwalters2728
    @dustinwalters2728 18 днів тому

    If anything, Spider-Man remastered was necessary because of the character model change. It allowed people to play with the same Peter from the very beginning instead of continuing the story with a completely different dude than what they started with. The graphical improvements are just kind of a bonus.

  • @sullivans2004
    @sullivans2004 15 днів тому

    I blame Sony not making the PS4 backwards compatible for why there was so many PS3-era games remastered for it and the Xbox One.
    Also I hope that if we get a GTA 4 remaster, they fix the godawful bike controls in 4’s base game. I get that Niko isn’t good at riding bikes but damn that mission is annoying.

  • @irishlogic
    @irishlogic 7 днів тому

    Youre sitting there reading a script off your screen like a robot. Its unwatchable. Dont u have any off the cuff thoughts or opinions?? Jesus. Im out

  • @JorArg-c7s
    @JorArg-c7s 18 днів тому

    t mafia 1 og is better than the remake. Lol

  • @creepyzebra
    @creepyzebra 18 днів тому +2

    That Mafia remakes sucks!

    • @trill625
      @trill625 18 днів тому +1

      Why

    • @IAMNOTRANA
      @IAMNOTRANA 18 днів тому

      @@trill625 OG fans are mostly mad about story bit changes. Personally I liked the game but the ending speech was really awful.

    • @creepyzebra
      @creepyzebra 18 днів тому +3

      @@trill625First of all, it completely stripped the tone and feel of the original game. There was very little atmosphere. The biggest offender however, are the physics. They aren't very realistic and they also aren't super arcade-like. It's a terrible medium. This is really driven home in the infamous racing sequence. Defenders of this sequence will claim this section is sim-like and if you're failing it's because you're used to something like GTA. I play a fair amount of actual sim racing, and the car handling doesn't even vaguely approach being realistic. Yet, it's stupidly hard. If you look up tutorials, they're full of advice like spamming the ram button, or driving through hay bales. All things that aren't realistic at all. It's baffling that the worst part of the original game was brought back. At least the original game was significantly more realistic (still incredibly annoying though).

    • @jaydenbeasty
      @jaydenbeasty 18 днів тому +1

      ​@creepyzebra nah remake is miles better of course the atmosphere and physics are going to change and there better. The remake is more fun better acting better world. Remake is better and its not even close

    • @creepyzebra
      @creepyzebra 18 днів тому +1

      @@IAMNOTRANA I've got no real problems with the story. I can't really remember the original story though.

  • @lPHOENIXZEROl
    @lPHOENIXZEROl 2 дні тому

    Lol well this is hypocritical, dude you're talking up one remake then admitting you didn't play the original and then in the next example saying people who compliment another must have not played the original... like you are with Mafia. The Mafia remake made a bunch of unnecessary changes, and stripped and dumbed down features and functions that were in the original version, cut a bunch of stuff from the original, it looks better but it's not truly "definitive" with all the stuff they took out. Been playing it here and there and it's really disappointing the things they changed and removed, one of my favorite things to do in free ride was getting chased by the police and do big jumps off drawbridge when it was going up... which they disabled.

  • @GNFNR
    @GNFNR 17 днів тому

    Love hearing that halo ce is your favorite game, its my favorite halo game too! I loved it even more when i went back and played it on the OG graphics, there was a great video explaining how the game was “ruined” in a sense by the new graphics. Ever since i saw that video about 3 years ago, i always try to play the original version of a game rather than a remake or remaster, as i like to think its the developers vision if that makes sense