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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- The series finale for Star Wars The Bad Batch is here. And the final shot with the Imperial Star Destroyer coming into view, was more important than you might think.
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It was such a close call when the Bad Batch and the remaining Clones narrowly escaped Tarkin
A very thrilling scene indeed
It was a nice call back to the failed rebel escape at Scarif during Rogue One. Vader is just a bit faster and more physically devastating than Tarkin, but Tarkin will take your life, your legacy, and your funding. 😅
@@MemphisCorollaS Just imagine their shuttle crashed into Tarkin’s ship. Roll the credits
@@isaackim7675Bro that’s what I was thinking lol
I thought it was just a clever time skip since it’s day when Tarkin arrives
Now we know when the imperial star destroyers first debuted canon wise
I mean isd where technically during the last months of the clone wars so
@@tbphillips9649 Wasn't that the Victory and Imperator classes? I know the Imperator class was built in very small numbers and re-worked into the Imperial 1 class.
@@tbphillips9649 i think you're thinking of the imperator-class (which is pretty much the exact same ship but was modified slightly following the war and renamed to the ISD) but I'm not 100% sure if that's canon or not. Either way it was canonically made during the clone wars at one point in time so you can't be entirely wrong lol
@@tbphillips9649 yeah but on screen this is when they debuted timeline wise
Bummed that we didn’t get to see the debut of the TIE fighters.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how incredible that star destroyer looks? It looks like it came straight from rogue one
I found it to be better looking than the Rebels model.
@@JezOnYT88 Rebels looks very awkward in general
You’re right actually, they actually got the model from RO
I think it *is* the Rogue One model
It is the Rogue One model. And in that close up shot, they tweaked the textures so that it would match up with the art style
Definitely a dream team. A single ISD flanked by two venators.
This formation would have crippled the rebels groups severely. Without creating a separate class of less armoured carriers
@@napri3282you don’t even understand how right you are. If the rebels had to deal with star destroyers that carried a superior number of fighters that were of equal quality, it would’ve been over in months
@@napri3282kiss me already (No homo)
Yall are real simple-minded, numbers were never the issue in lore, hell rebel fighters were generally always outnumbered even with the venator’s absence. The problem was the rebels hit and run tactics, which if anything the venator would be a bigger liability since you can’t deploy a quarter of a thousand fighters instantly
If you've never looked into Star Wars Armada, it's a great game where this option is available and man, does it feel cool AF.
What I also liked was that the Imperial star destroyer was accompanied by two Venetor clone-wars Star Destroyers. I guess this shows the beginning of the transition from the Clone Wars to the Empire era in full effect. Ships are being phased out.
starting with the highest ranking officers and most prominent political officials getting the ISD1's first before anything else, and Venators in escort until more ISD's are available. I loved this scene, as later we so most of the time Star Destroyers become either self dependent and no longer have escorts, or it's in a group of 2 other ISD's.
But why aren’t we getting the Victory class star destroyer which was never seen in canon materials?
@@CaptainM792they are around just not many
@@CaptainM792
In Legends, the Victory Class were produced right at the end of the Clone Wars and were limited in their deployments because the Empire decided to move quickly to a more powerful space-to-space combat ship like the ISB.
It looks like the Venators were attack carriers and the Victory was supposed to be a replacement for the Acclimator-class as a surface attack ship with somewhat greater firepower to support the fleet in space-to-space combat.
@@CaptainM792 Because they aren't canon, the Venator has fully replaced it as the clone war predecessor to the ISD.
And no, comics and novel mentions don't seem to count for modern Lucasfilm.
When every Star Wars series ends I just sit there and stare at the wall not knowing whether I’m happy or sad
Exactly ! Idk what to do right now lol ! I have nothing to expect ! I know that tales of the empire are coming but I don't believe that they will be enough to forget the amazing time I had with the bad batch
Bittersweet is the perfect way to feel rn bro… I cried when the end credits rolled end of a great era
Time to WATCH IT AGAIN.
The title of the last episode of the bad batch was their first line (by wrecker) from season 7 of the clone wars.
"The cavalry has arrived!!!"
Star Wars Fandom 101, the Venator alongside an Imperial class, the greatest formation ever
Imagine this formation of 1 ISD with 2 Venators and maybe an escort of Arquitens ,raiders ,ton falks fighting a 6 or 7 munificents with 2 lucrehulk or providence , just clear floor sweep one sided hell
ISD broadsiding 5 or 7 cis ships at once on one side , venators in its shadow on the other side support firing as the ISD shields them , V wings clearing out droid fighters , arc 170 and y wings bombing the lucrehulks ring structure at a safe distance behind the main battle area , and Nu class shuttles boarding the coreship of lucrehulk for an important target , a JEDI fighting alongside the first flames of rebellion in the remnants of the true separatists
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 The Ryloth blockade would have been smashed the first time around.
I edited the comment, just incase 2nd reminder comment
@@WolfeSaber9933 definitely,
instead of anakins Venator, the ISD might just ram through the lucrehulk like it's cake . WITHOUT major damage (Maybe)
Now imagine GROUPS of Venators and ISD formations escorting a Bellator-class (Fast Dreadnought) like wasps guarding their nest 🤩
I lost it. An Imperial class Star Destroyer flanked by two Venators. HOLY SHIT!
Christ. Have some standards. Is that all you need to praise a shitty show like that?
If I had to guess, they used the model from Rogue One and 'cartooned' it. Which honestly, the models shown in later seasons of TCW and Bad Batch don't even look like a cartoon to me anymore really.
Especially compared to their star wars rebels counterparts.
I thought that was just me, the way it was colored, detailed, and shaded made it look so much like the physical models that were used to film the movies
It looked soo much like the rogue one ship, likely based off of it..but throughout season 3 there's been multiple shots where I couldn't tell the difference between filmed and animated...especially the shots of the water in the episode with ventress...it just goes to show how well the animation is done
Yeah it looks fantastic, so glad they went more realistic over time. Og clone wars looks so weird looking back at it
@@liu7052Same thoughts, especially the lighting makes it look like a live-action movie scene, not animation. Looks so nice.
We were so close to getting an on-screen Victory-class Star Destroyer appearance, we were _this_ close...
I think the Light Cruiser has become the canon version of the Victory class.
@@SwordsmanMercenaryThe Victory-class is in canon, coming over in the 2014 Tarkin novel and later in the Darth Vader comics
@@SwordsmanMercenarylight cruiser?
@@interstellarpostman5430 Yes the Light Cruiser class we see in Star Wars Clone wars and also Rebels.
@@interstellarpostman5430 I think he means the Arquitens Class
I just thought of something. In this final episode, Tarkin diverts the funding for Project Necromancer to the Death Star and Palpatine in a previous episode said project Necromancer was vital to the future of the empire.
So with that in mind, does anyone else think this means that Tarkin is actually making subtle moves against the Emperor by unilaterally diverting funding to his own project?
I do thing it was more of a temporary decision thing, but was bothers me were exactly did all the money went? Because like project stardust encompassed seting up amongst other planet wise mining operation with heavy security (Ilum in fallen order) and here we have two hollowed out mountains.
Definitely. It shows that the Death Star may have been his idea which Palatine agreed to more or less reluctantly.
No. The death star first appeared in the prequels in the hands of the CIS actually. It was a plan all along for palpatine. Not tarkin.
Secondly, with the database destroyed, clones escaped, and scientists all dead, there was virtually no way to continue project necromancer. As vital as palpatine calls it, it was destroyed. Gone. Over. Nothing remained. You can't continue a project without the information on it and the ones who know how to do it. So they just diverted the funds to the project they CAN do.
@@arctic_hazeThe Death Star already appeared as plans in Episode 2 and those who designed it also built it, the Geonosians
@@bluefiremarkii I know they inherited the plans from the Separatists. But finding funds for such an gigantic endeavor in a galaxy where the Empire is making enemies everywhere was not an obvious thing. Also look again at the Revenge of the Sith scene. Vader is shown the construction of the Death Star by Palpatine and... Tarkin. He was always there.
This imperial I looked so much better than the Star Wars rebels ones. It was great to see, but sad as it's the start of the end of my favourite ship, the venator.
Yeah the bridge are to high
@tbphillips9649 completely agree. It seemed a few things were vertically stretched, Vader's helmet looks a bit too tall as well.
@@tbphillips9649LMAO I thought I was the only one thinking that.
@@questionmark05Vader’s helmet was intentional.
@@Squiddy-go1du The entire awkward art style and animations were intentional. Still odd, or at least an acquired taste I have not acquired
I loved seeing the Imperial 1 at the end
The ISD is so imposing next to Venators. What a presence
That's the point of the Tarkin Doctrine. Terrifying presence at the expense of practicality.
I totally geeked out when the Imperial I showed up in that scene. I am just glad that I wasn't the only one.
Internal monologue ,: Damn boi , oooh damn BOI , oh fock , damn ooh damn BOI , fock damn BOI oooooo boi!
Idk why Disney didn’t use this animation for Rebels. This animation is 1000x times better than the animation used in rebels. Would love to see a show that tells a story about a squad of rebel soldiers (cough cough Renegade Squadron) fighting in all the important battles like the evacuation of Yavin, Battle of Hoth(from a soldiers perspective) and how they got the Death Star 2 plans.
I loved this shot so much! It’s the perfect fleet with 1 fortress warship with heavy firepower and 2 fighter carriers
Too bad the Empire just went with fortress warships moving forward, except for a couple of carriers we saw in Rebels
I also shows just how much BIGGER ISD's are than the Venators. They're nearly 50% bigger in pretty much every dimension.
Being the obsessive compulsive guy that I am, I’ve always wanted to see the period where republic cruisers and Clone Wars technology were being phased out as Empire transitioned itself into the technology were all accustomed to seeing in the Galactic Civil War era.
Same, I always wanted to see the time and battles that made the rebel Y-wings look so scuffed and worn out, 20 years of development and fighting
I was saying 'C'mon, be an ISD..."
>in pops an ISD-1 and two Venators
"YES."
Still annoyed no Victory Class Star Destroyer model made.
Same
Like the Acclamator. No respect.
I guess the imperial star destroyer is a repurposed 3D model from other shows or easier to make, or they just forgot about it.
@@solastro5595 I think it is more the former. Premade model means less money spent.
Not saying they shouldn't have used the Imperial Model, but having a Victory come in as well would have been nice.
dude when tarkin announced he was en route, i was like “fuck yeah he’s totally gonna arrive in an isd 1”, and sure enough he did, that was such a cool shot
I legit thought we would see Vader when I saw the Star destroyer the animation is done so well it almost looks like life action
Moreover,the presence of Tarkin is very,VERY important
Not only because it shows how he and Krennic had a sorr of edge compared to the Tie Defender program of Thrawn,but also because he was the one that created Project Warmantle
Project Warmantle,first mentioned during Rogue One,before this show we only knew the general basis of the program. But with The Bad Batch,we literally saw precisely how the Empire transitioned from the Clone Era to the Stormtrooper era.
And Tarkin is here,closing the last remnant of the Clone Era.
The Bad Batch will probably be the last Chronological Star Wars media that portrays the remnants of the Republic
Then Kix woke up 60 years later....
I didn't even notice when I watched it, but yeah that was (as of yet) canonically the first imperial star destroyer we saw. 😳
I guess Tarkin being one of the first admirals to command one, also symbolizes how high ranking he is and how much the emperor favoured him.
I only wish that we also could've had Stormtroopers for the last episode. Would've cemented the end of an era even more.
I'd have thought this is just a retooled rogue one star destroyer. They've clearly been using some of the live action models in bad batch and it really suits the updated and slightly more realistic visuals vs if they'd done it in the 2010's.
Up till that point it has mainly been Venator Class cruisers used during the Clones and this is significant because it is basically the official debut of the Star Destroyer accompanied by two Venators that we know are eventually made obsolete as more Star Destroyers are built.
One of my favorite scenes in star wars animation
I love that they did the same thing in Tales of the Empire with a single ISD flag ship in a fleet of Venators to show viewers who had just finished Bad Batch that the meeting Morgan Elsbeth had with the Imperial navy was taking place around the same time.
Imagine if the bad batch ended up like the GR-75 in Rouge One and crashed into the Imperial 1 😂
We also saw for the first time in every star wars media (without Games) a ISD-1 with a Venator in one and the same fleet
I really love the symbolism with the tech in this show, really this was one of my favorite parts of the bad batch.
This imperial star destroyer must be the Sovereign. The one destroyed by the ghost.
It could also be the Executrix, which he apparently gained command of in 18BBY and is the one seen in Rogue One. He seemed to use the two interchangeably, probably using one while the other was in the yards and vice versa.
Im so happy i wasnt the only one to notice this;) Also all are star destroyers. Clone wars era Venators are Venator class stardestroyers
I cannot put into words how much I love these spaceship shots 🔥🔥🔥
Loved it! Probably the first - or one of the first - Imperial-1-class star destroyers. The smell of "new" must be awesome.
Not gonna lie, if they didn’t phase them out, a Venator and ISD combo would be extremely useful in fleet combat, with the ISD providing the firepower while the Venators can do the same AND act as superior fighter carriers
Yeah The Empire always just goes with bigger and badder more firepower approach, and it bit them in the ass.
I sometimes get the idea that the Imperial was originally supposed to perform the role the Venator did, they just sacrificed some of the complement for weaponry since they learned in the Clone Wars that Venators would have to engage ship to ship sometimes, and the true heavy brawler was supposed to be the Tector. However, it seems like they ended up not making nearly as many Tectors once the doctrine changed and they miscalculated with the Star fighter reduction
Pointless, the Secutor existed and they Empire never needed to deploy that much fighters anyway
I was wondering if that was the first time seeing the OT Star Destroyer in Clone Wars at the end of the episode but I wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying! Cool details like this is part of what makes Star Wars so special, it's the lived in Universe (Galaxy really) with it's own history that the shows get to play in. So much history in the details.
When I first saw the star destroyer, my jaw DROPPED to the floor, I was not expecting it to show up at all and I loved it
Ah! My fleet composition for key worlds in my Empire on Thrawns Revenge is finally canon! LOL
Kind of wished we could have seen the Victory Star Destroyer sometime prior to this to complete the cycle. If there ever was a time frame to show it in, this show was it.
I didn’t even realise but it’s a cool detail.
the only thing i wish we got to see in the show was the final armour transition into the classic stormtrooper armour we know and love. this paired with the appearance of the star destroyer would've really hit home that terrifying feeling; there is no longer anything left of the republic, the reign of galactic empire is all that remains.
I wonder if this is before or after the ending scene of revenge of the sith. Since Vader still has a venator when he’s looking at the Death Star getting constructed. You’d think Vader and Palpatine would get Star destroyers before Tarkin
Wait the Venators were a real life cost saving measure? lol makes sense now that I think about it.
Probably but it also made sense to keep them around a little longer, unlike the fighters of the republic, the Venator didn’t just disappear over night. I do think that without tales of the empire though they would have just had 3 Venators.
It was good we got the first Star Destroyer. I was hoping we'd see more of the original trilogy millitary like TK troopers get Stormtrooper armour and see the first death troopers in The Bad Batch. Also Lambda-class shuttles & V-wings transitioning to Ties
Clone Wars-style Star Destroyer is wonderful
Last time I saw a Imperial Star Destroyer didn’t have it’s shield balls attached 😆😂
It's pretty wicked seeing an ISD flying alongside Venators.
I’ve always loved the post republic imperial era with the greyed out ships with no symbols and V-Wings flying around. I loved seeing the star destroyer with the venators it really is singling a new era for the galactic empire
That jump reminded me a lot of the rogue one scene when Vader gets to scariff
and the star destroyer looks fantastic
I also did some number crunching on dates. This event of the star destroyer and the raid on tantis takes place in 18 bby, in 17 bby a year later, vader is seen inspecting the wreckage of a downed venator presumed to be the final resting place of ahsoka, where modern stormtroopers are seen as well. My guess is either shortly after the bad batch new Stormtrooper armor was dolled out, possibly from some of the funds requisitioned from Hemlock's labs, or it was the first experimental step with new stormtrooper armor to an elite force. If we see any sort of early empire series around this time period again, I suspect the gen 1 TK stormtrooper armor will be replaced with new Stormtrooper armor, or the TK armor replaced with imperial army armor as many of the TKs would no doubt better class in with imperial army rather than stormtroopers.
I'm still waiting to see Victory-class star destroyers
That First Star Destroyed Prototype
seeing an Star Destroyer in formation with 2 Venators is such an amazing shot. they should have kept the Venators as carriers. and the Star Destroyers could have taken the role of fleet warship.
but what most people dont know is that the venator is still a star destroyer its just "venator class" so theyve always been in the clone wars, the empire later moved on the the successor the "I-class" star destroyer
Meanwhile I expect to see a similar shot in the Mando and Ashoka shows in regards to the empire and first order era star destroyers.
Seeing the Executrix in canon was such a joyride for me.
I didn't even notice it when I watched it. Crazy
I was so scared if they wouldn’t make it out in time! Got me shaking like a leaf the whole episode
This show really should've focused more on the transition from Republic to Empire. We needed to see more of the Imperial Clones, Imperial Venators and the introduction of the ISD and other proper Imperial vessels. We just didn't get enough.
We can’t get enough Venators, no matter what
Yeah I wasn't a huge fan of multiple episodes being centered around fighting some random creature on a pissant world. The best scene for me was the emperor's speech
For a few seconds I was worried that they were about to show the twisting serpents/space dragons of the Chimera when they did the slow progress shot of the ISD like it was in a Michael Bay car commercial. I was thinking that they couldn’t help themselves but to connect things with Easter eggs. I was very relieved that it was just an ISD
I kind of wish we got to see the Imperator in the later parts of the Clone Wars, or hanging around early in the Bad Batch. A sign that it was there, but didn't get phased into mainline popularity until the rise of the Empire.
probably wouldn't have been many even then those would of been hanging around kuat fitting out.
In the pre Disney source material imperial star destroyers were used in the clone wars. Would have liked to see one fighting the separatist just to see one in action
Two Venators and a Destroyer would have been a great battle formation.
Edit: this means the first models of the Class 1 were still being built at the end of the CW to be able to show up here.
What's crazy to me is that the venator was only around for what 3 years? It wasn't even there in the beginning of the clone wars and is gone within a couple years after.
That my friend is probably a prototype. But it debut here kind of annoys me. Since in legends, at least the imperial star destroyer was actually Preston the service during the Republic era. In fact, a few of them were seen during the battle of coruscant. But now apparently, Canon wants us to forget that idea.
It does make sense that Tarkin would get the first pick of the new Star Destroyers
I have a hard time believing that, that was all the remaining clones that were still alive
I feel like if the Empire kept the Venators in service, they would’ve won the GCW because ISDs can deal ship-to-ship damage while the Venators can carry loads of Starfighters, plus, Venators have a formidable arsenal and can hold there own, not to mention their abundance of point defence guns which can obliterate rebel starfighters.
The fact that we're getting a Tales of the Empire series just after how this show ended is brilliant
Off to Bracca with those Venators...
Makes sense Tarkin would be among the first to have access to the newest warships being produced
The venator isd combo looks so cool
We still never got to the normal stormtrooper armor which I expected
I’d have like to see the Star Destroyer doing the bombardment of Tantiss flanked by the Venators as a juxtaposition to the Venators doing the same to Kamino in the season 1 finale.
See but if they kept that fleet composition they would have been far more effective in space
I really doubt that cost savings were the consideration for not including a star destroyer. Especially given that creating a model for a single last shot under that thinking would be considered wasteful. It was a deliberate choice to show that transition
Ah, the Executrix. Wonderful ship.
the escape shuttle would have been alerted that incoming were about to appear....
Tarkin is a smash
it still the venator should have been kept as a shoulder ship of the SSD . like this they could shred any Xwing formations with overwhelming air superiority even more .
I was hoping we'd see some TIEs deployed from the ISD as well. But I thought it was cool how the show depicted the new Empire using mainly V Wings with no ARC-170s in sight.
I don't know if this is the very first Imperial Star Destroyer out of the shipyards, but it amuses me that Tarkin immediately upgrades his ride as soon as he is able to.
Dude I loved the venator class but seeing this shows how much it all will change to what it becomes the empire it just sucks in a way to see the clone wars fading to nothing
op, looks like they're phasing out the venators around this time
we need a show for the mid time of the empire
If I’m not mistaken the star destroyer looks like the rogue one realistic model
I still don't get why the empire scrapped all venators, if they used them in combination with the ISD, they would have trounced the rebels. the superior firepower of the ISD combined with the versatility and fighter compliment of the venator would have been a lethal combination
I’ve never seen any rebel struggle from ISDs or standard ties , but V wings alone made me sweat for the Rebels and clones ,and don’t even start on triple grey Venators jumping out of Hyperspace and the Nu and Rho shuttles with Clone Commadoes ,Venator commands a respect that the Imperial class cannot
I was thinking the ISD wasn't animated but rather pulled from Rogue One.
No victory class star destroyers sadly.
It was such a cool part. I miss this show man
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one hype as shit to see a ISD for the first time in this, I was waiting to see it for the first time canonically
NGL, I was kinda hoping to at least see a canon visual of the Victory class, since they should have had a few of them by this time!
I knew it was coming, but i was a little concerned we get the Vader Star Destroyer Appearance like in Rogue One
"...As a cost-saving measurement." - Measurement? Cost-saving measure!
What are you, foreign or something? :D
I'm a little surprised we never saw any Victory Star Destroyers in this time era.
Such a good show kind of sad its over.
Im not gonna lie I love this storm trooper armor so damn much idk why it looks so good to me, I was really hoping to see the storm troopers new armor introduced in here but excited to see it in tales of the empire.