Her body was actually found by Adventures with Purpose, they are a movement that cleans up water ways and also search for people who go missing with their car. They travel the US helping families and law enforcement to find people who could have gone missing in water.
AWP is great at underwater recovery and completely suck at homicide investigation , as they are divers not detectives. They found Kiely's car and her body was in it, but they immediately said it was not an accident and foul play was likely (before it was even confirmed to be Kiely). It's too bad they started that internet rumor which resulted in her friends and family harassment. AWP should only have said "we aren't making any public statements at this time, we are divers not investigators". It is highly unlikely any LE agency will request their assistance in the future with the media frenzy they caused with their unprofessional opinion and accusations void of any investigation and their highlighting the story the 'tow truck guy' made-up about servicing the car after it was already in the water. In conclusion: •Underwater recovery - excellent ✔️ •Investigating and reporting - incompetent and abysmal ❌️
@@ninjacat508 You assume too much and are not accurate in your account. Nobody from AWP publicly said it was a murder. The ONLY thing said was Nick saying he thought it was suspicious that she was found in the cargo area. That is all. That is not unprofessional or wrong. It was his opinion, which would of course be based on his experience. Secondly you state your doubt that any police department would ever use them again. I would point out no police department has EVER used them. AWP always does their investigation at the request of private citizens, friends or family of the missing. The police are never contacted until a vehicle is already found by the team. I find it telling that you feel free to state your opinion but deny that same right to AWP.
They were just here in Pittsburgh last week, and were looking for someone in the Allegheny River, and ended up finding someone else that had been missing.
Yes - but just to be clear, it doesn’t necessarily mean foul play, as that’s also where the air bubble would’ve been. The thing I don’t understand at ALL, is wtf the LE & FBI were doing when it came to the potential crime scene, aka her & her vehicle. It was just one screw up after another. That poor child. She deserved better.
@@jokerogan3643 Why? They are just guys who find junk underwater who happened to find some cars and got good at underwater sonar. They aren't detectives.
AWP divers said the local police’s sonar equipment wasn’t very good and they weren’t well-trained in using it since they had so few occasions to use it
Sociopaths and psychopaths have social anxiety perfectionism and stress causes anxiety in people with ASPD yes they feel anxiety in different ways and for different reasons
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Yeah, this is nuts. Those eyes lack a soul and toxicology showed ethanol levels consistent with decomposition, therefore Kiely definitely wasn’t fall/down drunk. Sharing drinks, ripping shots, and popping squats, Sami? Nope!
@@rearrangingdeckchairs Kids put in charge,pulling a car out that they couldn't even find that was where her phone last pinged unsealed dropping evidence out of it and not retrieving it,Police officer grabbing hold of the steering wheel as soon as the car came out of the water without taking fingerprints first,Sami laughing ,dancing and singing in vid after her so called close friend was found deceased,Mum say that her Daughters death balances everything out , I've never in my life heard a Mother say that after their Daughter was found dead ! Oh and lets not forget the Truckee Way rule book where you all stick together and keep your mouths shut !Corruption all round in that Cult town right the way up and all the Government Agencies working on this case were in on it ,Big money and influential people involved but Kevin Neese and the Bullsheet Detectors on you tube has contacted his ex boss as Kevin was a Cop ,in Washington DC and what he's seen of the case was Appalled and is looking into it and he's pretty high up in the judicial system there !
For me number one (of many red flags) is the narrative that Kiely was as drunk as Sami said, the tox report doesn't support her story at all. So imo me her narrative is one big lie from beginning to end. The question is why...
Sammy is full of crap she is twisting everything raves about kiely but cud not stand her jeakousy kiely was murdered people it was a set up sammy was the leader wake up people ❤
Sami claims Kiely was so drunk yet the autopsy shows little alcohol. No water in the lungs. She was found in the trunk when windows were open. Many things don’t make sense. Who knows what happened to Kiely only the one above. That’s not where she was found. Huh. They were searching for her so how or why did she say that. The girl was missing still. Kiely called her mom that’s she’s gonna be late so why she saying she thought Kiely was gonna sleep there. Her story was inconsistent.
I wonder if the friend is just feeling guilty because she broke “girl code” and left her friend alone at the party, especially when Keily called to check in on her.
I missed having the replay after the analysis. I hope that was only for this one. The replay gives us a chance to see and experience the perspectives you’ve given and is a key piece of learning
Can you guys look into the Quinton Simon case, and watch the interview with the mother and grandmother? He went missing 3 weeks ago and they are searching for his body still. His mother is the main suspect. However, she is saying she doesn’t recall anything. The mother and grandmother were seen partying while teams were searching in a landfill for remains.
This is the one and only time ive watched one of your videos and not agreed and I can’t even explain why. Something just doesn’t sit right with me. She gives me a bad feeling.
Agree! I've seen a lot of cmts from ppl being hateful & accusing them of being paid to give a false view & all that, others just calling them terrible etc. I've enjoyed a lot of their videos & very CLEARLY they are NOT hacks. They are all VERY established & credible. I also can't see why anybody would try to get them to lie about a UA-cam video when it has nothing to do w\the case & just ppl interested in body language. Also, I cannot for the life of me understand why these 4 guys would even WANT to give a false opinion. I just think that perhaps they are mistaken on a few things. Or that she just was good at faking the honesty. A lot of their insights about her behavior were good & telling. I just think their view of "why" & what it shows abt her intent could be mistaken. There's also of course a good chance WE'RE the ones who are mistaken in our opinions abt her. Maybe personal experiences have given us an unfair bias. But I'm also in agreement w\you that there's just SOMETHING that is giving me bad vibes & major 🚩🚩🚩. I've also noticed a lot of us saying this seems to be women. Which makes me wonder if that's WHY TBP might be a bit wrong on their analysis & us women who have experienced this dynamic during our teen yrs are picking up on certain things TBP didn't. See, I find it weird how she's trying to imply they were super close & BFFs & she's an expert but then throws that "well Maddie, her BEST friend..." Just reminds me of all those silly fights abt who's the #1 BFF & who comes in 2nd blah blah. & She doesn't make it sound like her & Maddie or Mags (I forget the name) are friends as well. & Typically, they would be in the same little friend grp. UNLESS there's some bad feelings & ppl pulling her in diff directions. But, my main take away from all of her interview is that SHE, Sammi, wants to be #1 & out in the spotlight, ALL attn on herself. She wants to be the authority & expert on this case bc it's such a HIGH profile, memorable, & notable case that has garnered world wide recognition. This case has reached pretty far out there. & If she thrusts herself out into the limelight, she can go places & make herself well-known & meet ppl & make $$. But I see Sammi's motivations as very selfish. I could 💯% be wrong. This is just my take as of now.
I was with you until almost the end, when she said "we don't want to get anybody in trouble." She suspects that Kiele is dead due to someone's behavior (driving drunk?) or negligence (leaving Kiele behind to drown while saving themselves?). Teens stick together, won't tell adults on each other. I believe she's holding back important information.
They were all engaging in illegal behavior. I don't think that means she thinks one of their group did something specifically to Kiely. I would imagine if she found out someone had hurt her friend, she would hang that person out to dry. But just publicly throwing out everyone's name when they probably have little to no involvement? Also, she may not be doxxing the guests, but that doesn't mean the police aren't aware. It is also possible the police told her not to throw around names publicly. Teens stick together to a point. But most will blabber when they realize how serious something is.
So messed up that they were allowed to sweep this under the rug after everything and all of us trying to get Justice for her any agency involved needs to be held accountable as wells as all the people that had knowledge of it . Selisha shing and her husband and baby were killed for calling the van in that entered the gated community where they had kiley . Justice needs to be done here . This is not legal nor okay
I still say Foul Play How did she drive her car from the Party to the Where car was found Drunk and stoned without crashing into a tree or ditch in Pitch Black? Why took so long to find out and get news back from August til November? The Diver came out white and said that look suspicious and these guys search missing bodies the whole time AA Driver said he saw Kiely and a guy in her car and she was acting nervously She was in the Hatch not Backseat which the gap to squeeze in is very small Sami also said Kylie called her at 12:15 and heard background Music then said 12:25 They said she was so drunk that she was stumbling early in the party so she left her so called Best friend there Drunk knowing she was in no condition but just left her there Tell me this Sami and Kiely was drinking shots and drinking , how can she have perfect memory of what she wore and what they did There was 300 people there from ages 16-30 how did no one hear or see anything And 1 of the kids said that around Midnight something happened and everyone left at the exact same time Overdose maybe put her in hatch and drive into the water and escaped Like I said I still say Foul Play made to look like an accident
Tow truck driver story was proven to be false or mistaken identity. Y’all are crazy thinking a group of 16-18 yr olds planned and carried out this sophisticated plot that would be difficult for most intelligent adult’s.
1. This was Nick's first recovery dive discovering a body. 2. It was never confirmed that roadside assistance guy actually saw Kiely or her vehicle and its very common especially in high profile missing person cases for people to misidentify people and vehicles. 3. Team Waters Sonar Search And Recovery recently stated in an interview that in 90% of their recoveries (over 100) that human remains are found in the back seat or hatch if the vehicle is an SUV.
Even so, the area is very dark at night, and she simply turned the wrong way. She was an inexperienced driver, very small in stature and thus more easily intoxicated especially as I feel she'd not regularly used alcohol in combination with THC and other illegal substances. Some people just have low tolerances to substances , and I feel that is a possibility.
@@jeffrecrowley the dirt path that goes to the water is completely different terrain that the road leading in and out. Big holes. So bad it almost turned AWP camper trailer over.
@@Kimberly-kz2qs a car was seen entering the reservoir on fire range camera at the approximate time she would have reached it. Police were given the footage, and her phone lost signal at that time.
Are you kidding me she can't even keep her story straight , and why would they put the last person to see a missing person in charge . Sammi was NOT keileys best friend either , .
This episode was a bit different than usual and so informative! There were so many examples of truthful behavior, not just deceptive. What I most appreciated tho, were the references to behaviors that might be commonly mistaken as deceptive, but were in fact indicative of truthfulness. Loved it!
My first 3 minutes. She is talking about her missing friend in a positive way, instead of saying please find my friend. She is talking about her friend as though she already knows she is already deceased. She is just a little too structured with her speech and her emotions. I can see her saying...you don't need to tell me how things are. I will tell you how things are. That is the feeling I am getting from her, starting at 15:39. 1:00:00 Why does she think her friend is in a position where she needs to keep fighting? Did she see her friend at some point with someone that could be a little aggressive with her?
I would have liked to see a sampling of all her interviews. I get it that you think she's telling the truth in this video. What about when she starts changing her story in later interviews about the last phone call and who called who. Especially, after the firecam footage shows Kiely was in the water at the time she says the call went out. Was Kiely calling for a chat as her car was going underwater? Sami goes on and on about the exact time of that last call. 12:36 And, she goes on and on about the fact that Prosser has been thoroughly searched, when the Arcadia dive team only searched 25 ft out from the bank in the area Kiely was found. So, not a thorough search. The Arcadia dive team was told to only search near the shore up to 25 ft out. Why were they given such strict search orders, in the exact spot AWP eventually finds Kiely. Still doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to see more please :)
I know nothing of this case. This girl just does not seem really upset about “ her friend” missing. She is very “To the point! “. Lack of any emotion really. I am sad that the poor girl was found dead! My thoughts got to her family and close friends. The interviewer is annoying as hell! I don’t like that he is laughing so much! This is not funny - at all!
I think someone drunk accidentally drove Kiely's car into the lake when she was passed out in the back seat, and saved only themselves, letting her drown. Also: 1. This friend stated that she didn't want whoever took Kiely to get in trouble. Why not? 2. When she stated that she and Kiely got out of the car, she said that there were other people in the car. Who, and why didn't she mention them before?
another HUGE PROBLEM I HAVE! Sami has NO PROBLEM naming names but she NEVER names the other girls supposedly inside the car with Sami and Kiely while the phones are being charged AND Sami won't name the wonderful friend that ended up giving her a ride home since her drunk friend, whom she left to fend for herself.... was too drunk to drive Sami home. UDDER RIDICULOUSNESS!!! These "*Invisible people" that play such a BIG PART in the story are the "VANISHING PERPS" that TBP talk about all the time. GIVE US THESE NAMES SAMI! Let us question them about what they know!
@@b4ubcomeold I'm sure she told the police who the people are. Would you give up these names publicly knowing they would be harassed like she has been?
@@jamba622 Yes but the evidence points that even they were wrong this time, for example the toxicology report showed ethanol levels consistent with decomposition, and Sami said Kiely was heavily drunk. She even added how they shared drinks all the time while they don't even follow each other on instagram and there are many other clues that she was not nearly as close to Kiely as she makes it seem. Oh Goodness, so many things are wrong with this case, such a disgrace...
Question for you guys: Is there a difference between being interviewed over a video call and being in person? Wondering because if she's able to see herself it may be like looking in a mirror instead of looking into someone else's eyes. It may make the person feel way more comfortable and other things.
Ok I'm not a body language expert but I think you have a very interesting point..I know I would be way more comfortable doing a remote video interview than one conducted in an interview room...but I would love to hear what the experts think about this aswell
Agree with the comments, also there has been reference to her already going through particular questions before hand and also that she may know the UA-cam guy, in that case these could be rehearsed so she would sound confident in giving the answers while also steering the search away from the place she was found.
she injected TONS of complexity. She put herself in the center, they had ridiculous rallies . She didn't describe ANYTHING about the route to or from the camp. She sent people to far off places.
The most ridiculous and alarming rally moment for me was seeing Sami stomp her left leg up and down like a horse and giggling uncontrollably with her friends on stage at the Truckee Thursdays concert, while the speaker was talking about Kiely-and that Sami was working so hard (yeh right) to find her. Ugh. That was impossibly frustrating to watch. It was flat out wicked.
Yikes. Would it be safe to say that none of you have spent much time around teen girls? 1. She is controlling the narrative and she is the star of the show. 2. She is extremely rehearsed, possibly even "groomed". 3. You guys said Brian Landry was innocent. At least one of you guys is making me sick. "Organized fighting because Rock-n-Roll just doesn't do it." What? (reference #2)
@@biljanav5240 A retired police officer had a copy of the autopsy which he shared on youtube. He referenced the lab that performed the 187 toxicology tests that were performed on her liver tissues. There was only a slight amount of methanol or ethanol, I can't remember which, and the coroner said that was most likely a byproduct of decomposition.
@@leslied125 Yes the autopsy was made public. No fluids in the stomach. no water in the lungs. Well the proffesionals has spoken. So Sam is as honest as a Sirene can be in my opinion.
This is like deja vu in reverse lol I can't guess how many times I said "Where's the Behavior Panel!" about this video. So happy you guys jumped on this!
It is still explicable that LE allowed a teenager, likely involved in critical events of KR's disappearance, to control searches, and public information. Was it because they already knew what happened and wanted to see what would play out for some bizarre reason?
Oh my God! Christopher Watts said those words "I just want them home" brrrrr it sent hivers down my spine and everything else said turned into that Peanut character's adult world conversation.
I really enjoyed this analysis. It was refreshing to hear someone analyze the video coming at it the way you did. So many people are analyzing this with the assumption that Sami is a cold blooded killer and it really warps their viewing.
She claims Kiely was ‘a close friend’?!? Wow…The confidence and composure she shows is amazing for losing a close friend. Her loving the attention and limelight is taking precedence over loss.
They were never, ever close friends. Kiely was home-schooled, and went to a Charter School for High School. Sami is posing as someone who just graduated from Truckee HS.
I don't understand why Kiely would have called this girl to ask if she still needed a ride if they had already talked about that earlier in the night and that Kiely wasn't going to be able to give her a ride and she claims that she then went back into the party to find someone who would give her a ride and I'm shocked these guys didn't pick up on that.
She's been up, probably due to stress, searching etc, but from experience, she displays slight nodding, zoning out. And I believe she carries guilt about leaving prior to Kylie. WOOT WOOT! Love you guys! So glad you did this video! Great info and evaluation!
Make your kids agree that they never leave a friend behind especially if they are drug or on drugs. NQA when they bring them home to their parents under the influence.
I realize that it might be difficult to navigate,but I'd love to see ya'll put out a video on feminine and masculine communication and body language. It would be fascinating to hear your experiences on the differences in the way men and women deceive others.
The fact that she said they traded drinks and immediately corrected herself and said they shared drinks is a huge red flag. I know everything has already come out but how do we know she wasn’t poisoned. Some poisons don’t come up in a toxicology examination.
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Ohhhh you gentlemen are soooo incorrect about Sammi. Did you know that coroner's reports can be altered/lied on. Knowing Sammi, and what her sister said about her coming home that morning at wee hours, being soaking wet, well that should have said it all. Sammì isn't smiling at all while saying good things about Kiely. Sammi was extremely jealous of Kiely. THIS WAS A PREPARED SPEECH.
Did you do any background research into this case whatsoever before this analysis or are you going into this blindly? You can say Sami comes off as truthful, but she factually can’t be. Kiely’s autopsy and toxicology showed that she likely had nothing to drink whatsoever. At most, a Truly or two. How do you reconcile this with Sami’s interview? She says they’re in the car charging phones and talking about texting moms and Sami asked Kiely for a ride home because she wanted to stay at the party longer. Kiely agreed. They get out of the car and go back to the party where Sami… looks for another ride. Because she “knows about drunk drivers.” She leads us to think Kiely was a drunk driver, but says she suspects Kiely was abducted and on the other side of the world but “still alive.” “Still fighting.” But she was a smart girl. And then the car was finally found despite LE’s best efforts to delay it and Kiely’s body was in the cargo area of her own car. Kiely was almost certainly strapped into the way-back via the backseat middle seatbelt, “attached to her actual belt”, holding her body in place and closed into the hatch door. Toxicology showed ethanol levels consistent with decomposition. I mean… I recognize the value of body language analysis and so appreciate your commentary on things, but in this case, while we sadly don’t know much about who killed Kiely/when/why and/or was involved in hatching this plan (seemingly in concert with LE), the things we do know disprove many (if not most) of Sami’s tall tales. Objectively disproven. But because she’s confident and lacks a conscience, you’re saying she’s told the truth. Idk, but if you know anything about this case whatsoever and still believe Sam’s a trustworthy person and Kiely’s death a mere 1-person accident, I can’t really trust your judgment.
Curious - how do you differentiate between someone who is cold and distant vs someone who hasn’t felt the full reality of a situation? I tend to take a long time to fully grasp the severity of things - for instance, my uncle went missing in his small plane on Father’s Day years and years ago and when my parents came in to tell me they were rushing to his house (a few states away), my thought was, “why? I’m sure he’s fine.” It took more than a week for me to really feel it and grasp what was happening. His plane crashed and he didn’t survive the crash but it just didn’t seem logical that he’d be gone. What would you say are the signs of someone who is dismissive because of antisocial personality, sociopathy, or psychopathy vs this sort of slow processing? Thanks for all you guys do!
It’s statistically more likely that your parents didn’t tell you something such as “he was going night blind but didn’t want to admit it”, than it is that you are anything even remotely like a sociopath, especially because a sociopath is least likely to reflect on their own behavior, and you are openly trying to confront it. I’m sorry for your loss as well.
It’s normal for the brain to avoid the bad news. When I found out dad had ALS it took me over a week to realize he was going to die suffering from a terrible disease. When the realization hit I was devastated but I should have grasped the situation from the get go because I was a healthcare provider. Dad passed 3 years later completely paralyzed except for one finger while his brain and nervous system was fully functional. Imagine getting itchy or a cramp and not being able to scratch or move a little for some relief. My brain just didn’t want to acknowledge those facts.
@@jaybee5466 that’s what I thought. We’re probably not going to watch the graduation. At 16, Kiely shouldn’t be driving at night and hanging out with older kids. Intelligence isn’t the same thing as wisdom.
Legally Sami could drink however Kiely was 16 years old and that's still considered underage. One of Sami's parents is a lawyer and the other one is a Private Detective who had close ties to the police department.
I get the feeling that the two girls were not close, close friends at all. I think they knew each other and just hung out off and on at the party. I think she wanted to be important and is really liking the attention. The only deception I see at all is that she was trying to imply that the party was actually “cleaner” that it really was. We’ve all been teenagers before and the thrill of a spotlight is hard to resist. She’s having a great time being important and in the moment.
It's so bizzare because people fell down numerous rabbit holes regardings factors that have little to no relevance to the actual case and there were so many rumors and speculations stated as a fact that had little to no merit.
I’m so glad you did this video. Interesting take. My mom gumshoe gut has a feeling She knows more the fact the the story was twisty makes me believe there’s teenage bs. So time will tell.
I listen, research, and generally understand the details of the body mechanics at play that they discuss. I retired from LE, but I love to learn more. They lose me when they start making assumptions about "why". I much prefer Greg's approach of not assuming "why", but rather saying at those points he'd dig deeper. When the others go off into "probably", "might have", etc., it just seems like their filling time. Making assumptions without clear, solid facts behind them is an amateur move when we all know they definitely aren't amateurs.
People wish that educated people would watch a bunch of uneducated, click-bait sensationalist UA-camrs begging for donations and believe the fake conspiracies they’ve yet to prove even one piece of after covering this case daily for months. 😂
@@kinseymillhone6113 Actually, they begged the PUBLIC for social media coverage. Offered the reward for weeks, their daughter is located and they don’t deserve the reward? What kind of people retract a reward when someone does exactly what they are asking for? I’d say given the coverage it is our business.
I can never get used to teens being so eager to upload everything they do every moment of the day. I mean what is it with being so hungry for attention?
It seems people hunger to spot lies, but what good is it if we can't spot the truth. These are great tips. Honestly, I'm not familiar with this case, but it felt honest TO ME! I've seen people bold faced lying and garner support AND people being COMPLETELY honest and noone believe them. That said , it's body language and behavioral analysis not True crime or First 48 , itcwas refreshing to see an analysis on how to see honesty cues as well even in the midst of obvious stressors or just the stress of the situation itself
@@kinseymillhone6113 You're right. This one interview completely erases all other footage, statements and social media that has been available for public view. In other words, everyday normal human beings are incapable of discernment; only these guys have that ability... just by viewing this one interview (by an amateur, no doubt). And the scores of other retired police investigators and Medical Examiners... muh, they're retired so now they're just "amateur sleuths". 🙄
You guys do not have the original video!!! A lot of the things she says that have been major questions has been edited out!!!! What’s with the pic that keeps covering her while talking?
Drunk parties Jealous girlfriends Fights Rage Or .... Kiely wanted to go home and others did not. They fight and one thing leads to another. I don't know. God knows what happened and the truth will come out
What's the truth behind the video interview with the Tow Truck Driver? Does it not prove Kiely was alive the next day after the party, was it not Kiely that was seen by the tow truck driver, or was it possibly a girl pretending to be Kiely?Why is the dashcam footage of this encounter released?
You can lie perfectly without getting nervous if you're a pathological liar. I've heard of it before including experiencing my adopted sociopathic brother everyday since he was 1. Were you guys paid to weigh in? The rest of UA-camrs were theatened to stop. Kiely had no alcohol in her stomach. She wasn't drunk like Sami said she was.
She did have alcohol in her system .88mg just barely over the legal limit When your body is in decomp it can't emitt that much ethanol due to the fact her body was in an anaerobic state underwater!
Thinking the same thing, I hope the REAL Body Language Guy I usually watch sees. Anyhow, I'm feeling they're working to fix Sami's reputation. Also, another true crime site said Sami is 24 and has a twin brother. If they were good friends, why did she find out how long it takes for her to get home from Prosser, she should've had the knowledge of approximate time. And, these kids if friends, know an iPhone from an android, but her pretty good friend that says "bye I Love you" to her blames the phone case for not knowing the type of phone she had. Sami is a narcissistic pathological liar. I fear she's very dark, and her videos prove that. And she'll have plenty of victims left in her path in life. Even LE let this 19 (24?) year old control the information gathering for their investigation. She said come to me, you don't need to go to the police, yhen corrects that by saying you can go but go to her too. These guys are just playing each other up. Won't subscribe. Sami knows, Sami is a Casey Anthony, Lori Vallow Daybell in the making.
Anyone here that keep disagreeing with men that have intelligence experience tells me. All of you have SHERLOCK HOLMES SYDROME! SOME OF THESE MEN INTERVIEWED TERRRORISTS FROM 9/11 AND AFGANISTAN! YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS!
Guys, I have found that when someone has just died, the psyche often seems not to have caught up with belief of their passing. So present tense often continues until the dead person’s absence has settled into a reality. This could be weeks to even months.
🙋🏻♀️ Ok. Will one or more of the 4 panelists please answer the following question? 👉🏼 Isn’t it true that what we see during this interview could just as possibly be described as lack of empathy, lack of remorse, and/or deception as a learned behavior? Just curious also, how much of this case did you study? The more objective thing to have done with analysis of Sami, would be to compare her statements about the same events, given at various times.
@@jennyrose2200 None of these people on the internet were there and none of them are more qualified to make any determination more so than experts, but they sure like to think they know more than they do.
As I said in another response, I’d love to see the Panel flip their typical analysis to see if the can find ANY honesty, sincerity, or anything positive.
I'm blown away at this entire thing. I cannot believe that all four of these men whose opinions I normally highly respect, all really think this chick is telling the truth and has any genuiness in her at all. I'm shocked.
@@dogfostermom2018 cause I think they're 100% wrong. I understand they're professionals and it's what they do...but also like I said...that's why I usually agree with these guys opinions. But I feel they got this one so very wrong. I think that girl is a sociopath and/or a psychopath and that she showed a massive amount of deception.
@@kangaroo8410 I get it you are going by your gut feeling because she seems unattached. Personally, I didn't see deception but I also am not an expert. Someone acting different from what you think is not necessarily guilty, Who knows if they had a friendship at all but, as I wrote on another post, someone claims to have seen Kiely with a boy the morning after the party. There is much not known. For the sake of the family, hopefully someone will come forward who was there and does know.
I appreciate the insight of you experts. I don't think she committed murder. However, my gut feeling is she is not entirely truthful. She does seem to be a person with a high degree of self-importance. Therefore, she doesn't need to be entirely truthful.
Please do DARRELL BROOKS opening and closing. We all knew he was lying but I’d love to see the specifics. (I was relying on my gut feeling!) PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAASEEEEE😊
34:20"There are hundreds of videos and hundreds of pictures from that party" Later on it turned out that there were nothing. One silly photo of kids and noone could even say for sure if it was that party. Nothing serficed. Nada. Later on we learned that parents told kids not to post anything. Im not saying that Sami was involved, but i cant shake off feeling, that there is some sort cover up for whatever was happening there. I personaly think its something around drugs.
Okay maybe she had nothing to do with her friends disappearance but I have this strong gut feeling that she knows what really happened to her friend? 🤔
1) Sami is not young! she is 24 years old 2) She did talk about Kiely in a past tense. 3) Sami presents herself like she's Kiely's best friend. And she was Not. 4) Sami said that Kiely was drunk.. the pathology test said differently!! 5) It is too little too late guys. but obviously you have not watched the case or other videos of Sami or Kiely's mom
@@juu2356 Wrong again... I'm 45 years old LOL but I meant she is not young as Kiely. Kiely was 16 years old. Sami is 24 years old. when the Behavior panel treat Sami like she is 16 years old.. You must agree with me- that there is a big difference
I’ve been waiting for this one. Something is VERY WRONG HERE. I don’t care what anyone says!!! Foul play for sure. That video of the car going into the water proves nothing. Autopsy report shows she did not drown. And yet it’s still deemed an accident. Who do these Truckee people think that they are fooling?? It’s bull
What do you mean by “Truckee people”? Do we have a sinister reputation for being liars? I love how you just assume the worst of everybody. Kiely’s death was a tragic accident, but if you have special knowledge no one else is aware of you should contact the Nevada County Sheriff’s Department right now. 🙄
@@silvermainecoons3269 according to people who have done exactly that, it seems to get them nowhere. I’m not being sinister at all. Quite the opposite. A beautiful young lady lost her life. So many of us don’t understand why the locals aren’t digging deeper. Very few cases get this amount of attention, and people who care about the end result. Something simply is not right here in my opinion only. However, there are others who feel the same way. On the outside looking in, it seems like people want this to just go away, and that to me is very sad. The authorities should be doing more, and maybe they are, and the rest of us just don’t know the private details. One would think that a press conference saying, Case Closed, Accidental, isn’t quite enough.
@@glo3139 What’s your opinion on the Adventures With Purpose scandal? I don’t know much about them, just that the owner has been caught doing some really shady things. He was the guy saying there’s no way it was an accident and going against what LE and the ME said. I’m not gonna go off on a tangent about why I think this really was just a tragic accident. My main point is that social media and true crime junkies have really started having an effect on a lot of cases and unfortunately it’s not always a positive effect. Kiely Rodni, The Delphi Murders and now the Idaho 4 have been affected by internet sleuths thinking they know more than LE, spreading rumors and making more work for detectives. It’s also alarming how many people seem to think they’re entitled to information and can’t understand why authorities don’t just hand it all over. That crazy TikTok tarot card lady accusing that professor in the Moscow case is a perfect example of someone who has no business slandering innocent people. Of course there’s times when social media has helped solved cases so it’s a double edged sword.
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Oh my lord! Thank you!!!!! Many of us have been waiting for this!!
Amen I hope the family does something about this when they move
Can you please give a flash warning next time?
Thanks to you all for throwing this up so quick, especially in light of having to remove your Chopper Reid video. Don't let it get you down!
@@jeffrecrowley May I ask what happened in regard to them having to take it down?
Her body was actually found by Adventures with Purpose, they are a movement that cleans up water ways and also search for people who go missing with their car. They travel the US helping families and law enforcement to find people who could have gone missing in water.
@Cindy thanks! I watch that channel and off to look for this episode!
What? No way! I love AWP. How cool to have a crossover between two of my favorite channels.
AWP is great at underwater recovery and completely suck at homicide investigation , as they are divers not detectives.
They found Kiely's car and her body was in it, but they immediately said it was not an accident and foul play was likely (before it was even confirmed to be Kiely). It's too bad they started that internet rumor which resulted in her friends and family harassment.
AWP should only have said "we aren't making any public statements at this time, we are divers not investigators".
It is highly unlikely any LE agency will request their assistance in the future with the media frenzy they caused with their unprofessional opinion and accusations void of any investigation and their highlighting the story the 'tow truck guy' made-up about servicing the car after it was already in the water.
In conclusion:
•Underwater recovery - excellent ✔️
•Investigating and reporting - incompetent and abysmal ❌️
@@ninjacat508 You assume too much and are not accurate in your account. Nobody from AWP publicly said it was a murder. The ONLY thing said was Nick saying he thought it was suspicious that she was found in the cargo area. That is all. That is not unprofessional or wrong. It was his opinion, which would of course be based on his experience. Secondly you state your doubt that any police department would ever use them again. I would point out no police department has EVER used them. AWP always does their investigation at the request of private citizens, friends or family of the missing. The police are never contacted until a vehicle is already found by the team. I find it telling that you feel free to state your opinion but deny that same right to AWP.
They were just here in Pittsburgh last week, and were looking for someone in the Allegheny River, and ended up finding someone else that had been missing.
Common misconception, she was found in the cargo space, not the backseat.
Yes, she was found under a strap and in the hatch! Doug said it on Zav. Strap hanging out back of SUV.
Yes - but just to be clear, it doesn’t necessarily mean foul play, as that’s also where the air bubble would’ve been.
The thing I don’t understand at ALL, is wtf the LE & FBI were doing when it came to the potential crime scene, aka her & her vehicle. It was just one screw up after another.
That poor child. She deserved better.
@@Caninecancersucksrocks the whole thing stinks! But I have no clue as to what is going on!
Absolutely NO CLUE!
Wait though, you said “Common misconception”, 😂 love it.
@@jessieessex I missed that 😅
A shout-out to Adventures With Purpose, the not for profit that found Kiely! They are incredible people. Have a happy Friday, everyone! 🙏💚🎃
Yes 🙌⭐️❤️🧡💛
Love that channel!
They said Foul play so I take there word
@@jokerogan3643 Why? They are just guys who find junk underwater who happened to find some cars and got good at underwater sonar. They aren't detectives.
@@chaoswitch1974 doesn’t take investigators to know something looks odd
I still haven't seen anyone correctly address the elephant in the room: "Why didn't the police find her vehicle?
I have a sense they knew where the vehicle was, how else would they know just where to tell people not to look?
They suck at water searches and overcompensated by acting cocky.
Cover up
AWP divers said the local police’s sonar equipment wasn’t very good and they weren’t well-trained in using it since they had so few occasions to use it
She lied about her relationship with Kiely. They were not BFF's.
FWB? 😊
Mark: very wise words, to all kids/adults out there, try to make sue your friends get home safe. RIP Kiely.
UK person here needing photographic evidence of Mark's 90's perm please!
Sociopaths don't get nervous, sociopaths don't blink. Her eyes are so incredibly relaxed
Sociopaths and psychopaths have social anxiety perfectionism and stress causes anxiety in people with ASPD yes they feel anxiety in different ways and for different reasons
She’s also a teenager and doesn’t have the slightest bit of life experience to grasp that her friend could be really gone for good.
@@BookishDark her friend is a sociopath callous indifference you definitely understand at 16 what death is
@movementislife sociopaths don't blink? Their eyes must get very dry.
Being able to not blink would help against Wheeping Angels
Here in the Netherlands we have a tv-show called The Mole. 10 people on a journey have to make money by doing fun and exiting tasks. One of them is a saboteur. he/she has to make sure that no money is earned. The winner is the one who discovers who the Mole is in 10 epsiodes. we never got it right in 8 years but now we are now becoming experts uncovering the mole by using all youre tips and hints. thanks for learning us everything about behavior. Amy
We need that in the states
WHO DROVE SAMI HOME????
Why?
Who drive Sami home ????
I disagree with you all, my view on Sami is guilty guilty guilty
She is guilty. Of being an attention seeker & bad friend. Doesn't make her a murderer.
From day one their were red flags and lies and odd behaviour everywhere!Why was Sami put in charge by the Police of gathering evidence ?WTF ?
Yeah, this is nuts. Those eyes lack a soul and toxicology showed ethanol levels consistent with decomposition, therefore Kiely definitely wasn’t fall/down drunk. Sharing drinks, ripping shots, and popping squats, Sami? Nope!
@@rearrangingdeckchairs Kids put in charge,pulling a car out that they couldn't even find that was where her phone last pinged unsealed dropping evidence out of it and not retrieving it,Police officer grabbing hold of the steering wheel as soon as the car came out of the water without taking fingerprints first,Sami laughing ,dancing and singing in vid after her so called close friend was found deceased,Mum say that her Daughters death balances everything out , I've never in my life heard a Mother say that after their Daughter was found dead ! Oh and lets not forget the Truckee Way rule book where you all stick together and keep your mouths shut !Corruption all round in that Cult town right the way up and all the Government Agencies working on this case were in on it ,Big money and influential people involved but Kevin Neese and the Bullsheet Detectors on you tube has contacted his ex boss as Kevin was a Cop ,in Washington DC and what he's seen of the case was Appalled and is looking into it and he's pretty high up in the judicial system there !
For me number one (of many red flags) is the narrative that Kiely was as drunk as Sami said, the tox report doesn't support her story at all. So imo me her narrative is one big lie from beginning to end. The question is why...
Sammy is full of crap she is twisting everything raves about kiely but cud not stand her jeakousy kiely was murdered people it was a set up sammy was the leader wake up people ❤
Sami claims Kiely was so drunk yet the autopsy shows little alcohol. No water in the lungs. She was found in the trunk when windows were open. Many things don’t make sense. Who knows what happened to Kiely only the one above. That’s not where she was found. Huh. They were searching for her so how or why did she say that. The girl was missing still. Kiely called her mom that’s she’s gonna be late so why she saying she thought Kiely was gonna sleep there. Her story was inconsistent.
she was found in the trunk and saying it was an accident wtf
Agree with all of this!! Sketchy case 100%
She had THC in her system on autopsy. So she was high.
The friend said Kiely was too drunk to drive her home...but the autopsy report said she had no alcohol in her system....?..
There is also some very troubling (threatening) video footage of Sami with friends after this. It is a message to others to “keep quiet”.
I wonder if the friend is just feeling guilty because she broke “girl code” and left her friend alone at the party, especially when Keily called to check in on her.
I missed having the replay after the analysis. I hope that was only for this one. The replay gives us a chance to see and experience the perspectives you’ve given and is a key piece of learning
There was no feeling.. If my best friend was missing I couldn't be completely calm and relaxed. Just empty words here.
Just reading the comments. Seems like most people aren’t buying your analysis on this one. Very interesting.
DC am noticing the same thing!
Can you guys look into the Quinton Simon case, and watch the interview with the mother and grandmother? He went missing 3 weeks ago and they are searching for his body still. His mother is the main suspect. However, she is saying she doesn’t recall anything. The mother and grandmother were seen partying while teams were searching in a landfill for remains.
Please!
This is the one and only time ive watched one of your videos and not agreed and I can’t even explain why.
Something just doesn’t sit right with me. She gives me a bad feeling.
Women’s intuition.
Agree! I've seen a lot of cmts from ppl being hateful & accusing them of being paid to give a false view & all that, others just calling them terrible etc. I've enjoyed a lot of their videos & very CLEARLY they are NOT hacks. They are all VERY established & credible. I also can't see why anybody would try to get them to lie about a UA-cam video when it has nothing to do w\the case & just ppl interested in body language. Also, I cannot for the life of me understand why these 4 guys would even WANT to give a false opinion. I just think that perhaps they are mistaken on a few things. Or that she just was good at faking the honesty. A lot of their insights about her behavior were good & telling. I just think their view of "why" & what it shows abt her intent could be mistaken. There's also of course a good chance WE'RE the ones who are mistaken in our opinions abt her. Maybe personal experiences have given us an unfair bias. But I'm also in agreement w\you that there's just SOMETHING that is giving me bad vibes & major 🚩🚩🚩. I've also noticed a lot of us saying this seems to be women. Which makes me wonder if that's WHY TBP might be a bit wrong on their analysis & us women who have experienced this dynamic during our teen yrs are picking up on certain things TBP didn't. See, I find it weird how she's trying to imply they were super close & BFFs & she's an expert but then throws that "well Maddie, her BEST friend..." Just reminds me of all those silly fights abt who's the #1 BFF & who comes in 2nd blah blah. & She doesn't make it sound like her & Maddie or Mags (I forget the name) are friends as well. & Typically, they would be in the same little friend grp. UNLESS there's some bad feelings & ppl pulling her in diff directions. But, my main take away from all of her interview is that SHE, Sammi, wants to be #1 & out in the spotlight, ALL attn on herself. She wants to be the authority & expert on this case bc it's such a HIGH profile, memorable, & notable case that has garnered world wide recognition. This case has reached pretty far out there. & If she thrusts herself out into the limelight, she can go places & make herself well-known & meet ppl & make $$. But I see Sammi's motivations as very selfish. I could 💯% be wrong. This is just my take as of now.
I was with you until almost the end, when she said "we don't want to get anybody in trouble." She suspects that Kiele is dead due to someone's behavior (driving drunk?) or negligence (leaving Kiele behind to drown while saving themselves?). Teens stick together, won't tell adults on each other. I believe she's holding back important information.
They were all engaging in illegal behavior. I don't think that means she thinks one of their group did something specifically to Kiely. I would imagine if she found out someone had hurt her friend, she would hang that person out to dry. But just publicly throwing out everyone's name when they probably have little to no involvement? Also, she may not be doxxing the guests, but that doesn't mean the police aren't aware. It is also possible the police told her not to throw around names publicly.
Teens stick together to a point. But most will blabber when they realize how serious something is.
She wasn’t in the back seat but the cargo area 😢
So messed up that they were allowed to sweep this under the rug after everything and all of us trying to get Justice for her any agency involved needs to be held accountable as wells as all the people that had knowledge of it . Selisha shing and her husband and baby were killed for calling the van in that entered the gated community where they had kiley . Justice needs to be done here . This is not legal nor okay
I still say Foul Play
How did she drive her car from the Party to the Where car was found Drunk and stoned without crashing into a tree or ditch in Pitch Black?
Why took so long to find out and get news back from August til November?
The Diver came out white and said that look suspicious and these guys search missing bodies the whole time
AA Driver said he saw Kiely and a guy in her car and she was acting nervously
She was in the Hatch not Backseat which the gap to squeeze in is very small
Sami also said Kylie called her at 12:15 and heard background Music then said 12:25
They said she was so drunk that she was stumbling early in the party so she left her so called Best friend there Drunk knowing she was in no condition but just left her there
Tell me this Sami and Kiely was drinking shots and drinking , how can she have perfect memory of what she wore and what they did
There was 300 people there from ages 16-30 how did no one hear or see anything
And 1 of the kids said that around Midnight something happened and everyone left at the exact same time
Overdose maybe put her in hatch and drive into the water and escaped
Like I said I still say Foul Play made to look like an accident
Tow truck driver story was proven to be false or mistaken identity. Y’all are crazy thinking a group of 16-18 yr olds planned and carried out this sophisticated plot that would be difficult for most intelligent adult’s.
@@lulu624z he has good points no way a 16 year old could drive drunk and stoned 100m in the dark without crashing before destination
1. This was Nick's first recovery dive discovering a body.
2. It was never confirmed that roadside assistance guy actually saw Kiely or her vehicle and its very common especially in high profile missing person cases for people to misidentify people and vehicles.
3. Team Waters Sonar Search And Recovery recently stated in an interview that in 90% of their recoveries (over 100) that human remains are found in the back seat or hatch if the vehicle is an SUV.
@@bonniehowell9206 even Nick said Foul Play
@@jokerogan3643 What AWP does is great,but they're not investigators. They find find people and not how they got there.
Please do Leilani Simon’s interview in the Quinton Simon case !
Yes
AGREE!
Yes, that would be very interesting!!
YASSSSSSS!!!! The whole family at this point!
I sent an email about it!! Please guys do this for us. I want to see if I'm right.
I would like to see them analyze Lindsey Rodni Nieman's body language.
Would they ?
The thing is KIELY WAS NOT DRUNK!! Look at the autopsy report!!
Even so, the area is very dark at night, and she simply turned the wrong way. She was an inexperienced driver, very small in stature and thus more easily intoxicated especially as I feel she'd not regularly used alcohol in combination with THC and other illegal substances. Some people just have low tolerances to substances , and I feel that is a possibility.
@@jeffrecrowley the dirt path that goes to the water is completely different terrain that the road leading in and out. Big holes. So bad it almost turned AWP camper trailer over.
@@Kimberly-kz2qs a car was seen entering the reservoir on fire range camera at the approximate time she would have reached it. Police were given the footage, and her phone lost signal at that time.
@@jeffrecrowley I know all of that. My point is, she was not drunk and she would have known she was on the wrong rode to exit.
@@Kimberly-kz2qs because sober people don’t get in fatal accidents, right?
Are you kidding me she can't even keep her story straight , and why would they put the last person to see a missing person in charge . Sammi was NOT keileys best friend either , .
Thanks BP, I learn more from your analysis when you work from videos of mostly honest people.
This episode was a bit different than usual and so informative! There were so many examples of truthful behavior, not just deceptive. What I most appreciated tho, were the references to behaviors that might be commonly mistaken as deceptive, but were in fact indicative of truthfulness. Loved it!
My first 3 minutes. She is talking about her missing friend in a positive way, instead of saying please find my friend. She is talking about her friend as though she already knows she is already deceased. She is just a little too structured with her speech and her emotions. I can see her saying...you don't need to tell me how things are. I will tell you how things are. That is the feeling I am getting from her, starting at 15:39.
1:00:00 Why does she think her friend is in a position where she needs to keep fighting? Did she see her friend at some point with someone that could be a little aggressive with her?
I would have liked to see a sampling of all her interviews. I get it that you think she's telling the truth in this video. What about when she starts changing her story in later interviews about the last phone call and who called who. Especially, after the firecam footage shows Kiely was in the water at the time she says the call went out. Was Kiely calling for a chat as her car was going underwater? Sami goes on and on about the exact time of that last call. 12:36 And, she goes on and on about the fact that Prosser has been thoroughly searched, when the Arcadia dive team only searched 25 ft out from the bank in the area Kiely was found. So, not a thorough search. The Arcadia dive team was told to only search near the shore up to 25 ft out. Why were they given such strict search orders, in the exact spot AWP eventually finds Kiely. Still doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to see more please :)
I perceive this girl completely different than you guys do. I thought she was lying. But you guys are the experts.
I know nothing of this case. This girl just does not seem really upset about “ her friend” missing. She is very “To the point! “. Lack of any emotion really. I am sad that the poor girl was found dead! My thoughts got to her family and close friends.
The interviewer is annoying as hell! I don’t like that he is laughing so much! This is not funny - at all!
I think someone drunk accidentally drove Kiely's car into the lake when she was passed out in the back seat, and saved only themselves, letting her drown. Also:
1. This friend stated that she didn't want whoever took Kiely to get in trouble. Why not?
2. When she stated that she and Kiely got out of the car, she said that there were other people in the car. Who, and why didn't she mention them before?
Also she had no alcohol in here! There’s way more to this story! She was a bright girl and she graduate early!
another HUGE PROBLEM I HAVE! Sami has NO PROBLEM naming names but she NEVER names the other girls supposedly inside the car with Sami and Kiely while the phones are being charged AND Sami won't name the wonderful friend that ended up giving her a ride home since her drunk friend, whom she left to fend for herself.... was too drunk to drive Sami home. UDDER RIDICULOUSNESS!!! These "*Invisible people" that play such a BIG PART in the story are the "VANISHING PERPS" that TBP talk about all the time. GIVE US THESE NAMES SAMI! Let us question them about what they know!
@@b4ubcomeold I'm sure she told the police who the people are. Would you give up these names publicly knowing they would be harassed like she has been?
Darrell Brooks - would love to see ur take on his opening and closing arguments and his general behaviour in court
Would love this as well! 👍
Greg Said this morning its on the list!
The fake crying was insane then he starts flirting with the judge 🤯
Don’t forget the ‘talented’ sociopaths and narcissists trick authorities, judges, lawyers, therapists, etc all the time.
That’s why behavior guys share their knowledge and talent. To help us regular folk to pick out the “tells” I trust their judgement
@@jamba622 Yes but the evidence points that even they were wrong this time, for example the toxicology report showed ethanol levels consistent with decomposition, and Sami said Kiely was heavily drunk. She even added how they shared drinks all the time while they don't even follow each other on instagram and there are many other clues that she was not nearly as close to Kiely as she makes it seem. Oh Goodness, so many things are wrong with this case, such a disgrace...
Question for you guys: Is there a difference between being interviewed over a video call and being in person? Wondering because if she's able to see herself it may be like looking in a mirror instead of looking into someone else's eyes. It may make the person feel way more comfortable and other things.
Ok I'm not a body language expert but I think you have a very interesting point..I know I would be way more comfortable doing a remote video interview than one conducted in an interview room...but I would love to hear what the experts think about this aswell
I also think this is a great question
Agree with the comments, also there has been reference to her already going through particular questions before hand and also that she may know the UA-cam guy, in that case these could be rehearsed so she would sound confident in giving the answers while also steering the search away from the place she was found.
What a great question!
@@millie79 her mom is a lawyer and dad a PI I'm sure she's well coached/rehearsed you make a good point!
she injected TONS of complexity. She put herself in the center, they had ridiculous rallies . She didn't describe ANYTHING about the route to or from the camp. She sent people to far off places.
The most ridiculous and alarming rally moment for me was seeing Sami stomp her left leg up and down like a horse and giggling uncontrollably with her friends on stage at the Truckee Thursdays concert, while the speaker was talking about Kiely-and that Sami was working so hard (yeh right) to find her.
Ugh. That was impossibly frustrating to watch. It was flat out wicked.
@@jori7398 YEEESSSSS!!!❤❤ I 100% AGREE WITH YOU!❤❤💥I REMEMBER THINKING OMG, SOMEBODY, ANYBODY PLEASE, JUST STOP HER!!!💥👏💥👏💥🙈🙆🎃👻🎃
I don’t know this case, can you explain what she did wrong ? Thanks x
@@jori7398 Yup. I saw that. She enjoyed every minute of Kiely being missing with herself (⚡ SAMI SMITH⚡) in the spotlight.
It's clear Sami lied repeatedly, especially about how extremely drunk Kiely was.
Sorry, Behavior Panel. How did yall miss this?
Yikes. Would it be safe to say that none of you have spent much time around teen girls?
1. She is controlling the narrative and she is the star of the show.
2. She is extremely rehearsed, possibly even "groomed".
3. You guys said Brian Landry was innocent.
At least one of you guys is making me sick. "Organized fighting because Rock-n-Roll just doesn't do it." What? (reference #2)
Yep. Got the Brian/Gabby one wrong and got this one wrong.
Alot of people think keily's death was staged.
The autopsy indicates Kiely Rodni had NO alcohol in her system. Didn't this friend say they had been drinking?
Yes! She said they were sharing drinks & doing shots.
Isn’t that a lie? If she is being so honest why is she making things up as she goes.
What is your source for your claim that her autopsy indicated no alcohol? Please don’t say someone posted it on social media 🙄
@@biljanav5240 A retired police officer had a copy of the autopsy which he shared on youtube. He referenced the lab that performed the 187 toxicology tests that were performed on her liver tissues. There was only a slight amount of methanol or ethanol, I can't remember which, and the coroner said that was most likely a byproduct of decomposition.
@@leslied125 Yes the autopsy was made public. No fluids in the stomach. no water in the lungs. Well the proffesionals has spoken. So Sam is as honest as a Sirene can be in my opinion.
Golden Rule, never leave your friend behind. Her guilt must be overwhelming.
(Very creepy ice cream truck music!)
This is like deja vu in reverse lol I can't guess how many times I said "Where's the Behavior Panel!" about this video. So happy you guys jumped on this!
Thank you 🙂
It is still explicable that LE allowed a teenager, likely involved in critical events of KR's disappearance, to control searches, and public information. Was it because they already knew what happened and wanted to see what would play out for some bizarre reason?
Oh my God! Christopher Watts said those words "I just want them home" brrrrr it sent hivers down my spine and everything else said turned into that Peanut character's adult world conversation.
I really enjoyed this analysis. It was refreshing to hear someone analyze the video coming at it the way you did. So many people are analyzing this with the assumption that Sami is a cold blooded killer and it really warps their viewing.
She claims Kiely was ‘a close friend’?!? Wow…The confidence and composure she shows is amazing for losing a close friend. Her loving the attention and limelight is taking precedence over loss.
At this time she didn't know "she was losing a close friend", which the panel also mentioned in the video.
They were never, ever close friends. Kiely was home-schooled, and went to a Charter School for High School. Sami is posing as someone who just graduated from Truckee HS.
Close friends are all over each others social media and sami was nowhere on Kiely's.
I don't understand why Kiely would have called this girl to ask if she still needed a ride if they had already talked about that earlier in the night and that Kiely wasn't going to be able to give her a ride and she claims that she then went back into the party to find someone who would give her a ride and I'm shocked these guys didn't pick up on that.
She's been up, probably due to stress, searching etc, but from experience, she displays slight nodding, zoning out. And I believe she carries guilt about leaving prior to Kylie.
WOOT WOOT! Love you guys! So glad you did this video! Great info and evaluation!
Make your kids agree that they never leave a friend behind especially if they are drug or on drugs. NQA when they bring them home to their parents under the influence.
I realize that it might be difficult to navigate,but I'd love to see ya'll put out a video on feminine and masculine communication and body language. It would be fascinating to hear your experiences on the differences in the way men and women deceive others.
The fact that she said they traded drinks and immediately corrected herself and said they shared drinks is a huge red flag. I know everything has already come out but how do we know she wasn’t poisoned. Some poisons don’t come up in a toxicology examination.
My son's old school, an alternative school for those that have trouble, is based around boxing. It's very good for them! It's a small ministry that takes troubled youth and turns their lives around through learning how to build yourself up. An ex prisoner runs it and it's amazing!
That's awesome! I'm so happy places like that exist 😌
I know you guys have the experience and the degrees but I'm not buying it. This was a disappointing video.
If I ever have to be questioned, I want these guys to do it. I would get away with it for sure!
With all due respect guys the new sound effects/music cues just detract from the program. Not really a good fit imho
We agree.
Ohhhh you gentlemen are soooo incorrect about Sammi. Did you know that coroner's reports can be altered/lied on.
Knowing Sammi, and what her sister said about her coming home that morning at wee hours, being soaking wet, well that should have said it all. Sammì isn't smiling at all while saying good things about Kiely. Sammi was extremely jealous of Kiely.
THIS WAS A PREPARED SPEECH.
Did you do any background research into this case whatsoever before this analysis or are you going into this blindly? You can say Sami comes off as truthful, but she factually can’t be. Kiely’s autopsy and toxicology showed that she likely had nothing to drink whatsoever. At most, a Truly or two. How do you reconcile this with Sami’s interview? She says they’re in the car charging phones and talking about texting moms and Sami asked Kiely for a ride home because she wanted to stay at the party longer. Kiely agreed. They get out of the car and go back to the party where Sami… looks for another ride. Because she “knows about drunk drivers.” She leads us to think Kiely was a drunk driver, but says she suspects Kiely was abducted and on the other side of the world but “still alive.” “Still fighting.” But she was a smart girl. And then the car was finally found despite LE’s best efforts to delay it and Kiely’s body was in the cargo area of her own car. Kiely was almost certainly strapped into the way-back via the backseat middle seatbelt, “attached to her actual belt”, holding her body in place and closed into the hatch door. Toxicology showed ethanol levels consistent with decomposition. I mean… I recognize the value of body language analysis and so appreciate your commentary on things, but in this case, while we sadly don’t know much about who killed Kiely/when/why and/or was involved in hatching this plan (seemingly in concert with LE), the things we do know disprove many (if not most) of Sami’s tall tales. Objectively disproven. But because she’s confident and lacks a conscience, you’re saying she’s told the truth. Idk, but if you know anything about this case whatsoever and still believe Sam’s a trustworthy person and Kiely’s death a mere 1-person accident, I can’t really trust your judgment.
Curious - how do you differentiate between someone who is cold and distant vs someone who hasn’t felt the full reality of a situation? I tend to take a long time to fully grasp the severity of things -
for instance, my uncle went missing in his small plane on Father’s Day years and years ago and when my parents came in to tell me they were rushing to his house (a few states away), my thought was, “why? I’m sure he’s fine.” It took more than a week for me to really feel it and grasp what was happening. His plane crashed and he didn’t survive the crash but it just didn’t seem logical that he’d be gone. What would you say are the signs of someone who is dismissive because of antisocial personality, sociopathy, or psychopathy vs this sort of slow processing? Thanks for all you guys do!
Denial is normal because of course we don't want to think the worst.
It’s statistically more likely that your parents didn’t tell you something such as “he was going night blind but didn’t want to admit it”, than it is that you are anything even remotely like a sociopath, especially because a sociopath is least likely to reflect on their own behavior, and you are openly trying to confront it. I’m sorry for your loss as well.
Sorry for your loss. 💔
It’s normal for the brain to avoid the bad news. When I found out dad had ALS it took me over a week to realize he was going to die suffering from a terrible disease. When the realization hit I was devastated but I should have grasped the situation from the get go because I was a healthcare provider. Dad passed 3 years later completely paralyzed except for one finger while his brain and nervous system was fully functional. Imagine getting itchy or a cramp and not being able to scratch or move a little for some relief. My brain just didn’t want to acknowledge those facts.
Doesn’t everyone know that Kiely was only 16 years old?
She wasn’t 18.
also Sami was 24 years old 😳
@@maytalbs9614
Was she? I thought she was a graduating senior?
Sami is 18 or was at the time. Go watch the Truckee high school graduation on UA-cam.
@@jaybee5466 that’s what I thought. We’re probably not going to watch the graduation. At 16, Kiely shouldn’t be driving at night and hanging out with older kids. Intelligence isn’t the same thing as wisdom.
Legally Sami could drink however Kiely was 16 years old and that's still considered underage. One of Sami's parents is a lawyer and the other one is a Private Detective who had close ties to the police department.
I get the feeling that the two girls were not close, close friends at all. I think they knew each other and just hung out off and on at the party. I think she wanted to be important and is really liking the attention. The only deception I see at all is that she was trying to imply that the party was actually “cleaner” that it really was. We’ve all been teenagers before and the thrill of a spotlight is hard to resist. She’s having a great time being important and in the moment.
Oh wow! I’m so happy you are doing Kiely’s case. This is such a bizarre case. Such strange behavior by so many of her so called friends.
Asserting the case is "bizarre" _ad infinitum_ doesn't make it so.
@@TelltaleBytes It’s bizarre to me. It makes it bizarre to me. Is that acceptable to you.
It's so bizzare because people fell down numerous rabbit holes regardings factors that have little to no relevance to the actual case and there were so many rumors and speculations stated as a fact that had little to no merit.
@@bonniehowell9206 there’s more unanswered question then answered
@@highiqof1929 like what? It’s an open and shut case of drinking and driving.
Mark, we’ll need to see a 90’s perm picture!
I’m so glad you did this video. Interesting take. My mom gumshoe gut has a feeling
She knows more the fact the the story was twisty makes me believe there’s teenage bs. So time will tell.
So you are saying Sami acts suspicious inconsistant and lies because she feels guilty just for leaving her so called friend? I disagree
I listen, research, and generally understand the details of the body mechanics at play that they discuss. I retired from LE, but I love to learn more. They lose me when they start making assumptions about "why". I much prefer Greg's approach of not assuming "why", but rather saying at those points he'd dig deeper. When the others go off into "probably", "might have", etc., it just seems like their filling time. Making assumptions without clear, solid facts behind them is an amateur move when we all know they definitely aren't amateurs.
You guys dropped the ball on this one. You should have done your homework for this case.
How so?
People wish that educated people would watch a bunch of uneducated, click-bait sensationalist UA-camrs begging for donations and believe the fake conspiracies they’ve yet to prove even one piece of after covering this case daily for months. 😂
I would like to know why her parents are refusing to give Adventures with Purpose the $75,000 reward money.
@@kinseymillhone6113 WTH? I've course its our business! Adventures with purposes deserve that money 💰. You are just trolling???
@@kinseymillhone6113 Actually, they begged the PUBLIC for social media coverage. Offered the reward for weeks, their daughter is located and they don’t deserve the reward? What kind of people retract a reward when someone does exactly what they are asking for? I’d say given the coverage it is our business.
@@kinseymillhone6113 it's the business of anyone who donated
@@kinseymillhone6113 yes. They do accept reward money but they don’t select cases based on that
I saw many red flags. I don’t necessarily think she killed Kiely, but I don’t believe her or trust her.
Me neither.
I can never get used to teens being so eager to upload everything they do every moment of the day. I mean what is it with being so hungry for attention?
It seems people hunger to spot lies, but what good is it if we can't spot the truth. These are great tips. Honestly, I'm not familiar with this case, but it felt honest TO ME! I've seen people bold faced lying and garner support AND people being COMPLETELY honest and noone believe them. That said , it's body language and behavioral analysis not True crime or First 48 , itcwas refreshing to see an analysis on how to see honesty cues as well even in the midst of obvious stressors or just the stress of the situation itself
@@kinseymillhone6113 are you a professional? With no opinion?
@@kinseymillhone6113 You're right. This one interview completely erases all other footage, statements and social media that has been available for public view. In other words, everyday normal human beings are incapable of discernment; only these guys have that ability... just by viewing this one interview (by an amateur, no doubt).
And the scores of other retired police investigators and Medical Examiners... muh, they're retired so now they're just "amateur sleuths". 🙄
@@kinseymillhone6113 absolutely not. UA-cam doesn't have a hold on me like it does so many people.
You guys do not have the original video!!! A lot of the things she says that have been major questions has been edited out!!!! What’s with the pic that keeps covering her while talking?
She was NOT found in the backseat. She was all the way back in the cargo area. That's a FACT, NOT a speculation.
She was under the seat and the top of the torso was on the other side of the seat in the hatchback area.
@@TheBehaviorPanel that's still not on the backseat. Important detail in my opinion.
I would imagine she tried to get out which would mean climbing around the car. I would, wouldn't you?
Drunk parties
Jealous girlfriends
Fights
Rage
Or ....
Kiely wanted to go home and others did not. They fight and one thing leads to another.
I don't know.
God knows what happened and the truth will come out
What's the truth behind the video interview with the Tow Truck Driver? Does it not prove Kiely was alive the next day after the party, was it not Kiely that was seen by the tow truck driver, or was it possibly a girl pretending to be Kiely?Why is the dashcam footage of this encounter released?
You can lie perfectly without getting nervous if you're a pathological liar. I've heard of it before including experiencing my adopted sociopathic brother everyday since he was 1. Were you guys paid to weigh in? The rest of UA-camrs were theatened to stop. Kiely had no alcohol in her stomach. She wasn't drunk like Sami said she was.
Even pathological liers get nervous about possible murder charge. Too much to loose. Specially if they are fairly young.
Psychopaths and Sociopaths can lie without flinching or missing a beat!!! I’m raising a niece who is 17 now. Never seen anything like it…
She did have alcohol in her system .88mg just barely over the legal limit
When your body is in decomp it can't emitt that much ethanol due to the fact her body was in an anaerobic state underwater!
Thinking the same thing, I hope the REAL Body Language Guy I usually watch sees. Anyhow, I'm feeling they're working to fix Sami's reputation. Also, another true crime site said Sami is 24 and has a twin brother. If they were good friends, why did she find out how long it takes for her to get home from Prosser, she should've had the knowledge of approximate time. And, these kids if friends, know an iPhone from an android, but her pretty good friend that says "bye I Love you" to her blames the phone case for not knowing the type of phone she had. Sami is a narcissistic pathological liar. I fear she's very dark, and her videos prove that. And she'll have plenty of victims left in her path in life. Even LE let this 19 (24?) year old control the information gathering for their investigation. She said come to me, you don't need to go to the police, yhen corrects that by saying you can go but go to her too. These guys are just playing each other up. Won't subscribe. Sami knows, Sami is a Casey Anthony, Lori Vallow Daybell in the making.
Anyone here that keep disagreeing with men that have intelligence experience tells me. All of you have SHERLOCK HOLMES SYDROME! SOME OF THESE MEN INTERVIEWED TERRRORISTS FROM 9/11 AND AFGANISTAN! YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS!
Thank goodness!! I have been impatiently waiting for this video!!
Didn't know about this case until now and this girl's description of Kiely feel like a eulogy to me.
First of all when you are telling the truth- you don’t have to think about it- “Clean as a whistle!?!” Are you kidding me?!?
Guys, I have found that when someone has just died, the psyche often seems not to have caught up with belief of their passing. So present tense often continues until the dead person’s absence has settled into a reality. This could be weeks to even months.
What side you on? Evil or Righteous?
I have been waiting for you guys to do this! Next up Lielani and Billie Jo, Quinton Simon case?
The interviews for Quinton Simon are Behavior Panel worthy!! Please check into that case guys! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great job. Comments are cracking me up though. I like watching you all. Have learned a lot. Thank you 🙂
🙋🏻♀️ Ok. Will one or more of the 4 panelists please answer the following question? 👉🏼 Isn’t it true that what we see during this interview could just as possibly be described as lack of empathy, lack of remorse, and/or deception as a learned behavior?
Just curious also, how much of this case did you study? The more objective thing to have done with analysis of Sami, would be to compare her statements about the same events, given at various times.
I agree. She was cold. Lack of appropriate emotion.
Agreed. I think she has some type of personality disorder.
It’s not uncommon that a bunch of untrained people would come to the same incorrect conclusion. 😂
@@inspectorgadget115 If you were there and knew what happened, you would be qualified to make that determination.
@@jennyrose2200 None of these people on the internet were there and none of them are more qualified to make any determination more so than experts, but they sure like to think they know more than they do.
DARRELL BROOKS PLEASE HIS TRIAL INFURIATED ME
Just no
Yes, yes, yes
As I said in another response, I’d love to see the Panel flip their typical analysis to see if the can find ANY honesty, sincerity, or anything positive.
I'm blown away at this entire thing. I cannot believe that all four of these men whose opinions I normally highly respect, all really think this chick is telling the truth and has any genuiness in her at all. I'm shocked.
Reason?
@@dogfostermom2018 cause I think they're 100% wrong. I understand they're professionals and it's what they do...but also like I said...that's why I usually agree with these guys opinions. But I feel they got this one so very wrong. I think that girl is a sociopath and/or a psychopath and that she showed a massive amount of deception.
@@kangaroo8410 I get it you are going by your gut feeling because she seems unattached. Personally, I didn't see deception but I also am not an expert. Someone acting different from what you think is not necessarily guilty, Who knows if they had a friendship at all but, as I wrote on another post, someone claims to have seen Kiely with a boy the morning after the party. There is much not known. For the sake of the family, hopefully someone will come forward who was there and does know.
Use your real name and photo and I’ll reply with a real answer. Otherwise, you’re just another troll.
Clearly Sami must be a really good actor if she fooled you guys. IMO
Why? What happened?
@@penelopepittstopP I'm confused
I think Sami and Jagger were a couple and he was still hung up on Kiley and she got jealous and stuff happened
THANK YOU!!! For doing this. Hopefully it gets to the lot of Crime tube sleuths 👍
I appreciate the insight of you experts. I don't think she committed murder. However, my gut feeling is she is not entirely truthful. She does seem to be a person with a high degree of self-importance. Therefore, she doesn't need to be entirely truthful.
Please do DARRELL BROOKS opening and closing. We all knew he was lying but I’d love to see the specifics. (I was relying on my gut feeling!) PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAASEEEEE😊
34:20"There are hundreds of videos and hundreds of pictures from that party" Later on it turned out that there were nothing. One silly photo of kids and noone could even say for sure if it was that party. Nothing serficed. Nada. Later on we learned that parents told kids not to post anything. Im not saying that Sami was involved, but i cant shake off feeling, that there is some sort cover up for whatever was happening there. I personaly think its something around drugs.
I like an explanation for that… hundreds… really? Then where are they. Not one picture of Kiely and Sami together, or either of them at all.
Perhaps LE has them. You just sound mad you don’t.
Okay maybe she had nothing to do with her friends disappearance but I have this strong gut feeling that she knows what really happened to her friend? 🤔
Maybe it’s just indigestion.
Sami was referring to Kiely in past tense in other videos before Kiely was found!
Sami says we hadn't planned on going together and we ended up not going together? Doesn't quite make sense
1) Sami is not young! she is 24 years old
2) She did talk about Kiely in a past tense.
3) Sami presents herself like she's Kiely's best friend. And she was Not.
4) Sami said that Kiely was drunk.. the pathology test said differently!!
5) It is too little too late guys. but obviously you have not watched the case or other videos of Sami or Kiely's mom
It's VERY obvious they haven't done the proper research! 🙄
@@thechicantique4567 Very disappointed
at least the could compare this video with others videos of Sami.
@@maytalbs9614 100%!! It's the very least they could do!!!! What a complete disgrace!
1) 24 years is YOUNG. how old are you, maybe that shapes your defination of being young. I suppose you are not older than 25 yourself then.
@@juu2356 Wrong again...
I'm 45 years old LOL
but I meant she is not young as Kiely.
Kiely was 16 years old. Sami is 24 years old.
when the Behavior panel treat Sami like she is 16 years old.. You must agree with me- that there is a big difference
I’ve been waiting for this one. Something is VERY WRONG HERE. I don’t care what anyone says!!! Foul play for sure. That video of the car going into the water proves nothing. Autopsy report shows she did not drown. And yet it’s still deemed an accident. Who do these Truckee people think that they are fooling?? It’s bull
What do you mean by “Truckee people”? Do we have a sinister reputation for being liars? I love how you just assume the worst of everybody. Kiely’s death was a tragic accident, but if you have special knowledge no one else is aware of you should contact the Nevada County Sheriff’s Department right now. 🙄
Too many unanswered questions
@@silvermainecoons3269 according to people who have done exactly that, it seems to get them nowhere. I’m not being sinister at all. Quite the opposite. A beautiful young lady lost her life. So many of us don’t understand why the locals aren’t digging deeper. Very few cases get this amount of attention, and people who care about the end result. Something simply is not right here in my opinion only. However, there are others who feel the same way. On the outside looking in, it seems like people want this to just go away, and that to me is very sad. The authorities should be doing more, and maybe they are, and the rest of us just don’t know the private details. One would think that a press conference saying, Case Closed, Accidental, isn’t quite enough.
@@glo3139 What’s your opinion on the Adventures With Purpose scandal? I don’t know much about them, just that the owner has been caught doing some really shady things. He was the guy saying there’s no way it was an accident and going against what LE and the ME said. I’m not gonna go off on a tangent about why I think this really was just a tragic accident. My main point is that social media and true crime junkies have really started having an effect on a lot of cases and unfortunately it’s not always a positive effect. Kiely Rodni, The Delphi Murders and now the Idaho
4 have been affected by internet sleuths thinking they know more than LE, spreading rumors and making more work for detectives. It’s also alarming how many people seem to think they’re entitled to information and can’t understand why authorities don’t just hand it all over. That crazy TikTok tarot card lady accusing that professor in the Moscow case is a perfect example of someone who has no business slandering innocent people. Of course there’s times when social media has helped solved cases so it’s a double edged sword.
Thank you so much for this channel! It took a long time for me to find something i also feel passionate about. The 4 of you make it interesting and i love the passion and knowledge you have.
They didn’t really know each other very well. Sami followed all of Kielys friends but not her.
Maybe you missed the correct baseline?