Pro Nuzlocker Ranks Every Gen 1 Pokemon

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  • @TheEvilWithinFan
    @TheEvilWithinFan 3 роки тому +3323

    Man, poor Onix. It looks way stronger than it actually is. You'd think a giant snake made entirely of rock that spends much of its life digging massive tunnels underground would be a lot tougher when in reality it has a base Attack total that's the same as Wurmple's. Are you fricken kidding me?

    • @egekahraman8985
      @egekahraman8985 3 роки тому +89

      I made a challenge to beat fire red with only one type ( I am now doing normal) when I was usiing rock tye I used onix the least

    • @simonalbert7518
      @simonalbert7518 3 роки тому +128

      It's also the same as the first pokemon you see, pidgey

    • @nameless5646
      @nameless5646 3 роки тому +31

      It might not be great in gen 1 but give it an eviolite or choice scarf and body press and it can certainly put in some work in gen 8

    • @werdmaster
      @werdmaster 3 роки тому +2

      Give it dig

    • @christianfell12letsplaysan76
      @christianfell12letsplaysan76 3 роки тому +14

      Still use it tho, looks so cool i just can't resist every time I play gen 1 lmao

  • @thisisEHAM
    @thisisEHAM 3 роки тому +3504

    “Gyarados is literally free in every Gen”
    *remembers the Magikarp that costs $500 in the Pokémon Center outside Mt Moon*

    • @kheireddineattala1281
      @kheireddineattala1281 3 роки тому +93

      that's such a good meme

    • @fazebolo1682
      @fazebolo1682 3 роки тому +44

      @@kheireddineattala1281 I'm sure it is, and the Trenton Damari guy is also another bot, I've seen the same exact replies atleast 5 times now between different people

    • @gibbcharron3469
      @gibbcharron3469 3 роки тому +24

      @@fazebolo1682 Can confirm, I've seen the same pattern across several videos.

    • @JEST3R_
      @JEST3R_ 3 роки тому +17

      @@gibbcharron3469 can't believe people fall for these shitty scammers

    • @gibbcharron3469
      @gibbcharron3469 3 роки тому +19

      @@JEST3R_ I don't think they get that many people; I suspect that the cost of these bots is low enough that they only need a couple of people curious or gullible enough to check it out in order to recoup their costs, and everything after that is profit.

  • @i-work-at-enron
    @i-work-at-enron 3 роки тому +1746

    Developers making Onix: "A 30 foot snake made of rocks. I bet this thing hits like a fuckin truck!"
    Masuda: "lol no"

    • @scrunkore
      @scrunkore 3 роки тому +15

      masuda wasn't a director in gen 1 tho

    • @joaogomes9405
      @joaogomes9405 3 роки тому +96

      Gen 1 development team was on crack all the time. Had to be to came up with stuff like the lack of physical/special split, damage types linked to pokemon types, psychic type in general.

    • @Vexal50
      @Vexal50 2 роки тому +8

      @@joaogomes9405 I'm not gonna lie. I actually liked physical/special being tied to typing, mainly due to it making defensive pokemon easier to use

    • @JJames666male
      @JJames666male 2 роки тому +33

      @@Vexal50 having them split makes a lot of pokemon more useful though. Otherwise all the special-type Pokémon with high normal attack are pretty useless

    • @maninthetrenchcoat5603
      @maninthetrenchcoat5603 2 роки тому +4

      @@JJames666male For Pokémon like that they just needed moves to compliment their physical types. We definitely needed better Flying, Bug, Rock, Poison, Ghost and Fighting moves.
      -Razor Wind should've been a 1 Turn Flying move.
      -Wing Attack should've been 60 BP from the start
      -Gust should've also been Flying, maybe raise the BP and give Pidgey Peck instead
      -Sky Attack also should've been 1 Turn, Solar Beam and Skull Bash too, there was no point to nerf them like that when Fire Blast, Blizzard and Thunder existed, it should also have been given to Gyarados
      -Cut and Vicegrip should've been 60 BP Bug moves.
      -Leech Life should've been 40 BP
      -Rage, Strength, Mega Punch and Mega Kick should've been Fighting
      -Submission should've been 100 BP and Accuracy
      -Poison Sting should've been a multihit move.
      -Every Poison Pokémon should've learned Acid and Sludge at some point
      -Skull Bash and Swift could have been Rock type, but that's a stretch
      -Bide should've been Rock type, but that wouldn't change anything.
      -Rock Throw needed an accuracy buff
      There's probably other changes, but those would definitely make physical attackers in Gen 1 better, alongside balancing out the rest of the meta.

  • @milesgreenaway6008
    @milesgreenaway6008 4 роки тому +7609

    Ah yes Crobat that classic Gen 1 Pokémon!

    • @JKIII-lj8us
      @JKIII-lj8us 4 роки тому +17

      Oof

    • @anonymous_person8280
      @anonymous_person8280 4 роки тому +569

      Magneton as well!
      Edit: Okay people, I get it. I got Magneton and Magnezone confused. I meant Mangezone. I just got confused because I don't use the magnemite line pokemon much.

    • @fishbowel4601
      @fishbowel4601 4 роки тому +298

      @@anonymous_person8280 at least crobat was in fire red and leaf green

    • @vincenthaynes3603
      @vincenthaynes3603 4 роки тому +173

      @@anonymous_person8280 you mean Magnezone.

    • @Jet-Steam-Gray
      @Jet-Steam-Gray 4 роки тому +125

      @@fishbowel4601 but only in the post game

  • @SeanSmith-qh6ii
    @SeanSmith-qh6ii 3 роки тому +1069

    I love the sudden changes of heart
    39:45 - “Tangela is pretty good!”
    40:09 - “Tangela is pretty ass”

  • @Helligrad
    @Helligrad 4 роки тому +1887

    Beedrill is C tier, eh?
    This is a love letter to Spike the Beedrill. His Nuzlocke run was difficult, fraught with bad luck and bad typing. But he was amazing.
    Now, I won't lie, like anyone else who makes a Fire Red run, I was very disappointed to encounter a Weedle in the grass of Route 2, just before the Viridian Forest. I would have preferred a Pidgey. However, I was hurting for team members since this run had a "No Starter" clause, and I had "returned" Professor Oak's Squirtle after catching Nibbles the Rattata, so I kept Spike on as a placeholder Pokémon.
    I largely ignored him at first, keeping his level just barely up with the rest of the team. It wasn't till right before Misty that I finally started to give him any real attention at all. Rose the Oddish proved to be a little on the fragile side and I was worried about her handling Misty's Starmie. I trained Spike so that he could use Twin Needle on the part psychic Pokemon. A good choice on my part, since Rose ended up confused from Starmie's Water Pulse, leaving Spike to bail us out.
    My luck hadn't been very good this run, and by the S.S. Anne, I had only captured eight Pokémon. Then, just north of Vermillion City, my luck sank even farther. While using the Versus Seeker to train, Camper Jeff decided to get revenge and murdered both Nibbles the Raticate and Baboon the Mankey. Shortly after, Diggy the Diglet was killed by a Goldeen's Horn Attack.
    I was quickly finding myself lacking the Pokémon I needed to fight Surge. In an act of desperation, I taught Tomcat the Meowth Dig to handle most of the electric types I'd encounter, and Spike learned Brick Break to deal with any Magnemites. The two of them wiped Surge's gym rather easily.
    By this point, Spike had earned a begrudging spot on the team. His Brick Break was surprisingly effective in most of his battles, and despite his species reputation as fragile speedster, he proven himself very durable.
    And then I challenged Sabrina.
    And as I'm sure many can attest, Sabrina is a murderer.
    It was a stupid move on my part. Four of the Pokémon on my team carried a poison typing. I should have gone south after Sliph Co, challenged Koga, leveled up some more. But I overestimated my chances.
    The key to my strategy was Wisp the Haunter. Her Shadow Ball destroyed most of the gym, including Sabrina's Kadabra and Mr. Mine, with One-Hit-KO's. And than Sabrina sent out her Alakazam, who proved that he was just as quick on his feet physically as mentally. I don't know how much damage Shadow Ball would have done since Wisp never got the chance to use it. She evaporated under one Psychic attack.
    Tomcat the Persian was my back up, but he only landed one Feint Attack before falling to critical Psychic hit. And now I was in trouble.
    Both Rose the Gloom and Regal the Nidoking were far too slow and would both die immediately. Hawke the Fearrow was certainly faster and lacked a type disadvantage, but his only dark attack was Pursuit. Besides, I had been planning on saving him for her Venomoth, and I very much doubted he could take them both.
    So, as a last minute Hail Mary, I sent out Spike, praying that his speed would be greater than Alakazam's.
    It wasn't.
    I remember how my heart sank with that health bar.
    I had barely caught sixteen Pokémon by this point. Of that, five had already died. After my whole team got taken out here, I wouldn't even have enough for a full roster when starting over. I wasn't sure I could handle that. This run was over.
    On a whim, just a mere half an hour of game time previously, I had used an HP-Up that I found in Sliph Co on Spike. It had given him two extra health points. I should have used more stuff on him. Hindsight.
    And than his HP bar stopped.
    At exactly 2 HP.
    The elation and excitement I felt was indescribable.
    And then Spike attacked. Twin Needle, which was both Super Effective and a STAB attack, was than in turn boosted by Spike's specially ability, Swarm. Alakazam, who still had over three quarters left in his health bar, fainted immediately. Spike didn't even need to hit him with the second needle.
    That was the moment that he went from a begrudging member of the team to my partner. And he stayed there, digging my team out of trouble time and time again. For a Pokémon with a Docile nature, he proved to be one heck of fighter.
    I wish I could give you the ending of Spike's story, but I can't. While training for the Elite Four, I messed up. I left my NDS with my copy of Fire Red on the sink in the bathroom at work. It only took me ten minutes for me to realize my mistake, but by then, it was gone. I searched everywhere, asked my coworkers and supervisors, but it was nowhere to be found.
    I won't lie, it hurts knowing I'll never see the ends of that run. I imagine a big climatic final battle between Spike and my rival's Venosaur, named Faunus (Processor Oak gave all his starters very grandiose names, the Squirtle I borrowed was Poseidon). But such is life, I suppose.
    Spike the Beedrill was easily one of the best Pokémon I've ever trained. He went from just another useless Weedle to my battle tested partner. Goodbye, Spike.
    You really were amazing.
    SPIKE THE BEEDRILL
    Caught: Route 2
    Levels: 4 - 59
    Nature: Docile
    Special Ability: Swarm
    Move Set:
    Cut
    Focus Energy
    Brick Break
    Twin Needle

    • @karboar7725
      @karboar7725 4 роки тому +186

      Wow dude, that is really amazing

    • @Helligrad
      @Helligrad 4 роки тому +45

      @@karboar7725 Thanks 😁

    • @Doubleranged1
      @Doubleranged1 4 роки тому +96

      Nice story!
      I love beedril. His speed and high attack make him a great psychic killer. Not as fast as Alakazam, but faster than most of them. Only played gen 1 and 2 though. (Firered is gen 3)

    • @Helligrad
      @Helligrad 4 роки тому +35

      @M1U7Z5 You've discovered my hobby 😅

    • @maat2019
      @maat2019 4 роки тому +14

      El tumorismo ha llegado hasta aquí D:

  • @SkyNinja759
    @SkyNinja759 3 роки тому +52

    11:26 "I've never used Alolan Ninetails."
    "It's fairy type, so it's probably alright."
    Yep, checks out.

  • @anjubatus
    @anjubatus 3 роки тому +930

    challenge: play with a team of only F-tiers

    • @tree4104
      @tree4104 3 роки тому +45

      I feel like golbat is somewhat useable in early gens

    • @blueknight8657
      @blueknight8657 3 роки тому +64

      He made a Nuzlock that was essentially this. Emerald Trashlock or something like that

    • @zuils
      @zuils 3 роки тому +4

      @Guts, The True Black Swordsman and he also did a Emerald Trashlocke

    • @eddiecowen2624
      @eddiecowen2624 3 роки тому +1

      In a nuzlocke

    • @intothekey
      @intothekey 3 роки тому +1

      I think my man is sleeping on parasect at least for gen 1.

  • @cal8831
    @cal8831 3 роки тому +845

    I know jackshit about Pokémon but I’ve had a bad day and this guy seems cool so I’m gonna watch this entire video

    • @Wellshem
      @Wellshem 3 роки тому +27

      Yeah, I don't even play pokemon anymore since li'e 10year but I remember a lot about it so it's just nostalgy

    • @jcfrvr23
      @jcfrvr23 3 роки тому +34

      He's quite entertaining whether you enjoy pokemon or not anyway.

    • @phoenixgodtimothy7479
      @phoenixgodtimothy7479 2 роки тому +2

      I wish I did not.......this dude sucks IMO, a huge EGO with claiming to be the best in the world, when he is not, there will always be some on better. and He says he ranking Gen 1 pokemon only, BUT he's adding Gen 2/3/4 Vers of the pokemon Evo. Line, so its not a True Gen 1 only......Also he adds is moves that and passive Skills, That if this was to be a TRUE Gen 1 Only, Thos Move are not in the pokemon Leearning line cause they are not in RBY, and Passive Skills was not added into pokemon until gen 3 NOT Gen 1.....This dude has nothing really good about him other knowing pokemon, but only in his thoughts.

    • @CrazedKasaJizo
      @CrazedKasaJizo 2 роки тому +16

      @@phoenixgodtimothy7479
      1: The intro is mostly a joke, in fact most of the time he adds a maybe and other comedic things to insinuate he’s probably not, and has just done a lot of stuff with Nuzlocke and general Pokémon knowledge.
      2: other gens were considered based on evolutions added later and some extra knowledge in general
      3: They’re called abilities, and the remakes DO have abilities, so another thing wrong

    • @damiendamatrix3028
      @damiendamatrix3028 2 роки тому +3

      @@phoenixgodtimothy7479 salt

  • @Christoph-ce4hj
    @Christoph-ce4hj 4 роки тому +271

    Parasect starting Gen 2 isn‘t too terrible to have for catching Pokémon, Spore and False Swipe is a decent combo for not losing any first encounters

    • @lanceknightmare
      @lanceknightmare 4 роки тому +19

      That is a good catch assist. My favorite catch assist is Scissor. Haunter which has Mean Look and Hypnosis is ideal for stopping Pokemon from fleeing the first turn. It should be a speed based build so it can move first for Mean Look.

    • @Christoph-ce4hj
      @Christoph-ce4hj 4 роки тому +6

      Nicholas Houzenga while I love Scissor you need someone to trade with to obtain it so I usually can’t get one. Parasect has the advantage of being easy to obtain and learning Spore at an okay level, everyone loves a catch assist with a 100% sleep chance :)
      Other than Roaming Legendaries barely any Pokemon run away so I don’t tend to go for the Haunter solution, especially with Hypnosis‘s terrible hit ratio

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 3 роки тому +3

      @@Christoph-ce4hj Except for those freakin Ralts and Abra, if you manage to get Gastly before encountering them that is ^^

    • @Christoph-ce4hj
      @Christoph-ce4hj 3 роки тому +1

      Guifire97 well considering the rate they appear at and the locations they are in you are very unlikely to see one before after getting a Ghastly

    • @porsche911sbs
      @porsche911sbs 3 роки тому +3

      Parasect is my favorite Pokemon. I call it "Roach Stroganoff".

  • @Fireontire
    @Fireontire 3 роки тому +557

    In my own humble opinion, if there ever was a pokemon that could use a stat buff then it is Onix.

    • @iraloS
      @iraloS 3 роки тому +7

      100% agree

    • @unii2657
      @unii2657 3 роки тому +65

      That buff is called steelix

    • @doctorbrydin7294
      @doctorbrydin7294 3 роки тому +39

      @@unii2657 steelix still isnt too great either, Just decent.

    • @aidenconway9087
      @aidenconway9087 3 роки тому +20

      ONIX 👏 SHOULD 👏 HAVE 👏 70 👏 BASE 👏ATTACK👏

    • @porsche911sbs
      @porsche911sbs 3 роки тому +34

      it's hilarious that a giant rock snake monster is so pathetically weak

  • @sineadthomas2024
    @sineadthomas2024 4 роки тому +2153

    Charizard is ranked the worst starter
    *Happy Bulbasaur Noises*

    • @Jarjarfunk
      @Jarjarfunk 4 роки тому +162

      ive always loved bulbasaur. i was that weird kid in school that played pokemon blue and picked bulbasaur.

    • @sineadthomas2024
      @sineadthomas2024 4 роки тому +17

      Jarjarfunk I meant to write blastoise (my pick) but go off.

    • @metlspaz1
      @metlspaz1 3 роки тому +74

      i think charizard gained points only for a few reasons, being the color red back in the day, being one of like 5 limited fire types in gen 1, and looking like a dragon. As I got older, I realized I liked Blastoise a lot more. For bulbasaur i hate venasaurs look, but loved ivysaur

    • @Smoketrees1969
      @Smoketrees1969 3 роки тому +25

      Of couse venusaur is the best

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 3 роки тому +28

      Charizard always was my favorite of gen1, but i also always acknowledged he was the worst in a fight (especially in gen1, where he really struggle against Kanto arena), but all around i think Kanto is one of those gen that had 3 really cool starters and people choices must be pretty balanced between the 3
      Fortunately for me, his Mega made him the best one in a fight out of the 3 ^^

  • @loadsock8364
    @loadsock8364 3 роки тому +716

    Ah gen 1, the good old days when I used my S tier steel type magnezone to sweep through the game.

    • @mmmmmmok5292
      @mmmmmmok5292 2 роки тому +3

      lol

    • @ashp4613
      @ashp4613 2 роки тому +5

      @@firestar9650 doesn't work as well cuz both of those types were in gen one lol, but yeah I was co fused

    • @synapsesoup3356
      @synapsesoup3356 2 роки тому +5

      Magnazone is gen 4

    • @williamd2989
      @williamd2989 2 роки тому +79

      @@synapsesoup3356 That's the joke.

    • @vulk7183
      @vulk7183 Рік тому +7

      He said he does evolution lines as a whole, meaning newer evolutions too, at least that's how I understood the intro explaination

  • @stiggy8692
    @stiggy8692 3 роки тому +601

    PC: Pidgeot has shit typing
    Also PC: Fearow's Normal/Flying typing is pretty good for this gen

    • @Rezim942
      @Rezim942 3 роки тому +56

      Me who has never attempted a nuzlocke before: *confused unga-bunga*

    • @rockassassin64
      @rockassassin64 3 роки тому +7

      Ditto is easily my favorite Pokemon and I don't even think I'd want to use it in a nuzzlock. I mean one as soon as it died I would be crying but also I agree with you that it's really hard to find a situation where it's going to be super good I mean I guess if you have one with imposter you can pull something off but I don't exactly know how rare that is I assume it's kind of very rare and I don't feel like putting in enough research. Find the situations where I can make it like useful

    • @212mochaman
      @212mochaman 3 роки тому +53

      Spearow/Fearow gets drill peck at lvl 30 something. Pidgey line gets its first flying move at the same time

    • @212mochaman
      @212mochaman 3 роки тому +2

      @@eternalJay10 yeah it is its dual typing like pretty much every other bird pokemon

    • @eternalJay10
      @eternalJay10 3 роки тому +1

      @@212mochaman damn. I would've bet my left testicle that pigey was flying only. My bad

  • @jeremygilbert7989
    @jeremygilbert7989 2 роки тому +119

    In Onix's defense it does learn Screech, one of the few double debuffs available throughout the game. Having the ability to drop an opponent's def 2 stages in one turn on such a durable pokemon is nothing to scoff at in a Nuzlocke run. I've had my ass saved in more than one Nuzlucke by a debuff Onix.

  • @sphinx19l
    @sphinx19l 4 роки тому +460

    "Poison types are shit"
    *proceeds to fill the A tier's first 4 slots with poison types*

    • @thomasbailey921
      @thomasbailey921 3 роки тому +50

      Well I mean, I think over half of gen 1 is either pure or part poison type

    • @sphinx19l
      @sphinx19l 3 роки тому +8

      Not really they're either water or part flying. Thats what makes thunderbolt so powerful in gen 1. Its just that only 2 grass types are not part poison in gen 1.

    • @skyisthelimit5078
      @skyisthelimit5078 3 роки тому +38

      @@sphinx19l no youre wrong. There are 33 poison type pokemons in gen 1 followed by water types so he is right to saying that poison types are predominant in gen 1. The type sucks though, only good defensively resisting 5 types, but offensively, is only super effective against grass types until fairy types were introduced in gen 6.

    • @sphinx19l
      @sphinx19l 3 роки тому +6

      @@skyisthelimit5078 No Im not. He said "OVER HALF of gen 1 is either pure or part poison".... 33 poison types which includes choices like weedle and kakuna and other 3 stage mons... Now go count how many flying and water types there are (that are weak against lightning) and then remind yourself the context of my comment he responded to.

    • @skyisthelimit5078
      @skyisthelimit5078 3 роки тому +15

      @@sphinx19l please. Why would i do that? Fine. I might have missed that "over half" part of the statement but i thought he just exaggerated the fact that were a heap of poison types introduced in gen 1. It was by far the most amount of pokemons for the same type introduced in like, ever. You cant deny that fact. And if were talking context here, why do you keep bringing water and flying types when we are talking about poison types? Who cares if thunderbolt is OP in gen 1. Its you who needs to remind yourself what the context of your initial comment was. LOL.

  • @Chino65245
    @Chino65245 4 роки тому +573

    Hypno: The Poorman's Alakazam

    • @deemac3470
      @deemac3470 3 роки тому +95

      Or the: doesn't have anyone to trade with's Alakazam.

    • @cosmoisconfused
      @cosmoisconfused 3 роки тому +13

      Hypno is just a SOregistered Alakazam, with probably a few addictions

    • @altdelet3778
      @altdelet3778 3 роки тому +19

      @@deemac3470 That’s what Mr Mime is for, he’s the most balanced alternative.

    • @deemac3470
      @deemac3470 3 роки тому +22

      @@altdelet3778 mr. Mime is a clown though

    • @altdelet3778
      @altdelet3778 3 роки тому +18

      @@deemac3470 Damn you right

  • @Flameclaw123
    @Flameclaw123 4 роки тому +414

    "Beedrill is very underrated"
    Arin Hanson has entered the chat

  • @pi_xi
    @pi_xi 3 роки тому +64

    My worst Nuzlocke starter was Hoppip in randomized Crystal. It had only Splash, Synthesis and Tail Whip and learned Tackle at level 10.

    • @gypsysprite4824
      @gypsysprite4824 3 роки тому +19

      i'm pretty sure if your stuck hoppip as a starter you just restart the run and choose a new starter

    • @jdealz9983
      @jdealz9983 2 роки тому +7

      Mine was regirock, only had explosion

    • @pi_xi
      @pi_xi 2 роки тому +1

      @@jdealz9983 Oh, that hurts, but Regirock is Gen 3.

    • @christianjericho7948
      @christianjericho7948 2 роки тому +1

      @@pi_xi Emerald randomizer

  • @soulsonwheels9016
    @soulsonwheels9016 3 роки тому +188

    Wouldn't it make more sense to do the tier lists by game? That way you can judge the specific pokemon available in that game by how they match up against specific encounters?

    • @gusthavo15yearsand98
      @gusthavo15yearsand98 3 роки тому +5

      No

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 роки тому +46

      Or at least by region/gen. Honestly it feels like he was talking more about Fire Red/Leaf Green rather than Red/Blue/Yellow in the video. And rating them in those games or HG/SS would make them relevant longer.

    • @intothekey
      @intothekey 3 роки тому +7

      @@haruhirogrimgar6047 yeah, for example there really isn't any good counters to psychic in gen 1. But a parasect with leech life and eventually spore is a decent way of dealing with them.

    • @212mochaman
      @212mochaman 3 роки тому +11

      @@intothekey All things considered the best alakazam counter is headbutt hypno

    • @kylehavens5038
      @kylehavens5038 5 місяців тому

      Yeah and he put raticate in A tier for guts but abilities didn’t exist before gen 3. So Pokemon yellow wouldn’t have that

  • @stikkysosage9125
    @stikkysosage9125 3 роки тому +235

    Its hilarious how he has no problem badmouthing the live chat

    • @derickstanford5334
      @derickstanford5334 3 роки тому +33

      I know this is an old comment but I’ve been trying to find some new poketubers lately and damn this guy is full of himself lol

    • @bxfbbxcbxc5328
      @bxfbbxcbxc5328 3 роки тому +1

      Is he autistic?

    • @luke-il7lc
      @luke-il7lc 3 роки тому +8

      @A B that doesn't tend to be very appealing to people

    • @58901Grappling
      @58901Grappling 3 роки тому +4

      @@derickstanford5334 I 100% agree.

    • @mrcasino7051
      @mrcasino7051 3 роки тому +14

      @A B if you see it as confidence then you’re deluded you only have to look at how he talks down about everyone else who does a nuzlocke and sees his way as the only viable way.. that’s not confidence that’s being a dick who is full of themselves.. learn the difference

  • @haidarasyraffauzan2972
    @haidarasyraffauzan2972 3 роки тому +108

    'charizard goes on b tier and lowest of all gen 1 starter'
    Chat: *go crazy*

    • @AlldaylongRock
      @AlldaylongRock 3 роки тому +9

      It IS the worst starter... Pretty much only good against Erika and nothing else.. Blastoise is good against Brock, Blaine and Giovanni
      Venusaur is good against Brock, Misty, Surge, Erika (use a Normal type move or something on it and her pokemon can't touch it ), Koga can't poison it, use a non Poison /Grass move, and then Giovanni

    • @haidarasyraffauzan2972
      @haidarasyraffauzan2972 3 роки тому

      @@AlldaylongRock even people in alola region use it for transportation

    • @AlldaylongRock
      @AlldaylongRock 3 роки тому +5

      @@haidarasyraffauzan2972 For Fly you are better off with Fearow and then later go for Zapdos.. Zapdos is broken.. Drill Peck and Tbolt are all it needs

    • @chalermponthasanatarakorn2626
      @chalermponthasanatarakorn2626 2 роки тому

      why is it the worst of all of the starters? go play pokemon red and blue and pick charmander as the starter and you will see.

  • @arlinnkord6852
    @arlinnkord6852 3 роки тому +141

    "Does chat know why Raticate is a good underrated pokemon"
    Me: Surprise Thunderbolt?

    • @martso9288
      @martso9288 3 роки тому +21

      Surprize blizzard. Esp in Gen1. 90 acc 120bp blizzards.

    • @cosmoisconfused
      @cosmoisconfused 3 роки тому +9

      Don't forget the super fang-hyper fang combo too. If you train it to be fast and have good attack it can sweep real well.
      Also it's shiny looks like it's even more angry than usual so that's a plus.

    • @arlinnkord6852
      @arlinnkord6852 3 роки тому +2

      @Vale Sauce It was talking about the pokemon across all the gems reliability wise, thats why he talked about clefairy being normal or fairy type, and why alolan forms still show up

    • @fusionxtras
      @fusionxtras 3 роки тому +1

      @Vale Sauce he also plays rom hacks so he is going with averages

    • @aalamvirsinghdhaliwal1701
      @aalamvirsinghdhaliwal1701 3 роки тому +1

      The thing that makes raticate good is the super fang hyper fang combo with the guts ability

  • @GeneralRidley
    @GeneralRidley 3 роки тому +26

    Can confirm surprising utility of Beedrill. Did a LeafGreen nuzlocke and Beedrill was one of the members of my champion team.

    • @scottdorsch5149
      @scottdorsch5149 Рік тому +3

      It can't be understated how many fighting types and poison types the endless rocket battles consist of. Beedrill is surprisingly bulky with all that resistant

  • @crizzswerve4734
    @crizzswerve4734 3 роки тому +71

    FInally someone showed some love to Ratticate

    • @devildynamite7454
      @devildynamite7454 3 роки тому +3

      @Pott Rott This is so underrated

    • @tangytim6699
      @tangytim6699 3 роки тому +1

      @@devildynamite7454 It isn't tho

    • @devildynamite7454
      @devildynamite7454 3 роки тому +7

      @@tangytim6699 Hyper Fang at 13
      Guts potential
      Early game breeze
      Used one without guts on my playthrough
      Survived till 7th gym

    • @tangytim6699
      @tangytim6699 3 роки тому

      @@devildynamite7454 Oh I thought you were talking about their comment, my bad. Why did you link them tho?

    • @devildynamite7454
      @devildynamite7454 3 роки тому

      @@tangytim6699 Oh my bad! I just realized....oops
      Also, their comment is underrated too I guess idk

  • @adenosinetriphosphate2494
    @adenosinetriphosphate2494 3 роки тому +94

    When a butterfly gets a higher rank than a giant, flying, fire-breathing dragon/reptilian:
    **sad Charizard noises**

    • @tangytim6699
      @tangytim6699 3 роки тому

      I cry now

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 роки тому +4

      Good.

    • @lucascioscia2744
      @lucascioscia2744 3 роки тому +1

      @@haruhirogrimgar6047 exactly

    • @Jynx9921
      @Jynx9921 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly insects and arthropods are just as interesting (if not more) than lizards, if they wanted to they could do some really sick butterfly pokemon

    • @alejandro_rodriguez_99
      @alejandro_rodriguez_99 3 роки тому

      97% sleep and stupid good earlygame and in later generations it has access to sleep and quiver dance.

  • @Marjannuel
    @Marjannuel 3 роки тому +59

    Who would win? A Dragon but is not really a dragon but looks like a dragon or
    One butterfly

  • @Mapleknight12
    @Mapleknight12 3 роки тому +252

    This list really feels like it should've been organized By Game, rather than in general; because a lot of a Nuzlocke Pokemon's viability is influenced by the game around it.
    For Example, Starmie is usually fantastic, but for instance; In GSC, you might not even have a chance at one until the late Post Game.

    • @Cure-Skywalker
      @Cure-Skywalker 3 роки тому +17

      I think he tried to consider all the Gen1 games (R/B/Y/FR/LG/LGP/LGE) and average the out.
      But yeah it would have been better to go by game than region.

    • @seviikun
      @seviikun 3 роки тому +1

      You can fish up starmie in quite a few places johto but okay

    • @zjean3417
      @zjean3417 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah because in the kanto games Nidoking is 100% S tier.

    • @aduck8842
      @aduck8842 3 роки тому

      @@seviikun That, you can, but getting the Water Stone to evolve it is gon take a bit more effort.

    • @andrewworks2551
      @andrewworks2551 3 роки тому

      Especially with Butterfree, before compound eyes sleep powder it’s good for like gym 1 but you can use for a good bit I. The later games

  • @Evilta
    @Evilta 4 роки тому +54

    Alolan Ninetails is legit really good only a bit frail, best to have Snow warning so you can throw Aurora veil up first thing not sure how viable that makes it in nuzlocks tho

  • @fritodorito06
    @fritodorito06 2 роки тому +22

    Thanks for putting Starmie in high A-Tier makes me super happy. It’s always been my absolute favorite Pokémon ever and I feel like it often gets slept on unfairly by other players.

    • @misters6749
      @misters6749 2 роки тому +2

      I'm ultra-late but its probably because of how late you get it.

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 Рік тому +2

      Starmie has the same base speed as Raikou and has been OU Gen 1-5. An amazing feat.

  • @chingshunyung8796
    @chingshunyung8796 3 роки тому +16

    If he made the list again after his Emerald Kaizo run, Primeape will be in at least A tier. Reversal strat is insane

    • @hajoeijgenraam295
      @hajoeijgenraam295 3 роки тому +2

      It wouldn't be. This is just for vanilla and Emerald Kaizo is different in so many ways.

  • @majorjerk77
    @majorjerk77 3 роки тому +175

    "This pokemon is trash", puts it in A tier

  • @aaronsmith5480
    @aaronsmith5480 3 роки тому +158

    I wish he kept this in the context of gen 1 He talks about alot of moves, stats and pokemon that dont exist in gen 1

    • @darianfelice5353
      @darianfelice5353 3 роки тому +37

      He did this in a stream where he ranked every pokemon it was just in order and split up for videos

    • @soccutd77
      @soccutd77 3 роки тому +28

      Also you can get these Pokémon in other gens and he’s just ranking them in nuzlocke viability for all the games

    • @firefoyx
      @firefoyx 3 роки тому +26

      Yeah its def complex to make it across all gens because it makes certain opinions just wrong, for example no way vileplume is better than victreebell gen 1. That said, its way too much work to make one of these for every gen and I understand that the list is an average across all generations.

    • @belojah2
      @belojah2 3 роки тому +3

      I came in with the same mind set. But realised how few people nuzlocke the first two gens before gba. We just the minority *shurgs*

    • @serpent2776
      @serpent2776 3 роки тому +3

      Well there's also FRLG

  • @yrednai
    @yrednai 3 роки тому +196

    Gyarados banned indefinitely. So common, so strong, so boring.

    • @devildynamite7454
      @devildynamite7454 3 роки тому +17

      I used my Gyarados in my platinum nuzlocke.
      Swept Bertha, Flint, and Cynthia, only taking hits from their first Pokémon, to set up dragon Dances.

    • @Yominication
      @Yominication 3 роки тому +31

      I have used gyarados in 5 playthroughs, in every single one it was my mvp. Thats why i stopped using him, and also i stopped using feraligatr in my gen 2 playthroughs cuz its literally diet gyarados and is about as busted

    • @doctorbrydin7294
      @doctorbrydin7294 3 роки тому +14

      Hence why he is S, cause most nuzlockers are retarded and don't use mons to their best potential as Jan himself said, Most people dont care about nuzlocking, They just care about winning with pokemon they like not even the fun of planning around hardass rng based scenarios

    • @pepedits176
      @pepedits176 3 роки тому +23

      Me and the boys grinding Magikarp to level 20 😴😴😴

    • @tangytim6699
      @tangytim6699 3 роки тому +7

      Gyrados isn't boring, that's for sure

  • @1pieveofKH
    @1pieveofKH 4 роки тому +56

    I found a shiny Weedle in a Fire Red Nuzlocke. It was my third Nuzlocke ever, and it ended poorly, but Beedrill put in some work! For those of you who would dismiss Beedrill as I did before evolving that Shiny Weedle, know that Twinneedle nearly murdered Sabrina's Alakazam in the first hit alone. This was noteworthy to me, seeing as said Alakazam swept me on my prior attempt at the run, and never again have I looked down on Beedrill since.

    • @easyaspi31415
      @easyaspi31415 3 роки тому +7

      Same lol but mine died in the S.S. Anne.

    • @l1me_y
      @l1me_y 2 роки тому

      how did it survived a psychic from Alakazam?

    • @1pieveofKH
      @1pieveofKH 2 роки тому +5

      @@l1me_y It didn't have to. It was faster and Twinneedle hits twice

    • @l1me_y
      @l1me_y 2 роки тому

      @@1pieveofKH maybe it had something to deal with speed EVs ig as it slower than alakazam

    • @WiiMote070
      @WiiMote070 Рік тому

      ​@@l1me_yas well as badge boosts

  • @DryAttempt
    @DryAttempt 3 роки тому +15

    Man mad respect when you said Beedrill is underrated I'm never mad getting a Weedle early game.

  • @mobysheeps3803
    @mobysheeps3803 3 роки тому +21

    pokemon players: i love ivysaur
    smash players: *iTs An oP saLAd

  • @mimimikail2603
    @mimimikail2603 3 роки тому +57

    Seeing my favourite Pokémon being put in S-Tier makes me happy. Gyarados for the win!

  • @bordeaux1337
    @bordeaux1337 3 роки тому +9

    I have never done a Nuzlock save. But I imagine hitting a lvl 31 Dugtrio in gen 1 when all other wild pokemon are like lvl 20 at that point in the game is pretty nuts.

    • @212mochaman
      @212mochaman 2 роки тому +1

      HI person from 11 months ago. Diglett cave is a bigger run killer then most gym leaders in fr/lg cause they all got arena trap and roll magnitude 9's about half the time. If u ever do a fr nuzlocke... dont even attempt it if u dont have a flying type or 4, its suicide otherwise

    • @spiciestbirb
      @spiciestbirb Рік тому +3

      Nah its worse in FR/LG gen 3 (where there's abilities so it's arena trap)

  • @specimen057
    @specimen057 3 роки тому +19

    Fun fact Gyarados is just a water type Gallade they have very similar stats

    • @lousyllamma986
      @lousyllamma986 3 роки тому +6

      The other way around considering Gyarados came first. Gallade is a psychic type Gyarados.

    • @specimen057
      @specimen057 3 роки тому +8

      @@lousyllamma986 by God you're right

    • @ChoiceSnarf
      @ChoiceSnarf 3 роки тому +2

      They might have similar stats, but other than that they're nothing alike. Different types, different moves, different abilities... Even different playstyles.

    • @lousyllamma986
      @lousyllamma986 3 роки тому +2

      @@ChoiceSnarf I mean, it's just a joke, I don't actually think that Gallade is unoriginal and a copy of gyarados, I just thought it was interesting hearing that they had similar stats.

    • @ChoiceSnarf
      @ChoiceSnarf 3 роки тому +2

      @@lousyllamma986 Yeah, I get you. I didn't even know their stats were similar, either.

  • @Radiogumdrop
    @Radiogumdrop 4 роки тому +15

    Butterfree has a lot of versatility in Gen 3 kanto games. Compoundeyes boosted Sleep Powder paired with Dream Eater is a great combo for it. Speed wise, it is average so it can outspeed most NPC pokemon. It can also solo Agatha and Bruno as well if you give it Giga Drain.

  • @michaelwambaugh6726
    @michaelwambaugh6726 3 роки тому +16

    I remember mankey being mvp vs brock in yellow

  • @chase4671
    @chase4671 4 роки тому +84

    Would love to see you do the other gens!!

  • @samslam4612
    @samslam4612 4 роки тому +420

    Might be the whiniest comment section I've ever seen.

    • @JelzSmellz
      @JelzSmellz 4 роки тому +46

      That twitch chat has got to be home to the cringiest of whiners.

    • @Lumix_Corrupt
      @Lumix_Corrupt 3 роки тому +16

      Cause this list is absolute ass

    • @Jacob-df5hr
      @Jacob-df5hr 3 роки тому +6

      Welcome to the online Pokemon community

    • @guifire9747
      @guifire9747 3 роки тому +26

      @@Jacob-df5hr Welcome to the online community ^^ every community have people like that (especially in ranking)

    • @Jacob-df5hr
      @Jacob-df5hr 3 роки тому +2

      @@guifire9747 yes everyone has them but distributions are not uniform, and different genres attract different people, on aggregate

  • @jacobdilldine7818
    @jacobdilldine7818 3 роки тому +10

    Thanks to your Influence, I have been currently doing my first run on Firered Nuzlocke and I chose Candle the Charmander first. I know fire starter is a bit rough in the beginning but I rarely play with Charmander starter and wanted to challenge myself in the Nuzlocke.
    Watching this Video I was Curious on what you think about Pokemon
    my team currently is
    Candle the Charizard
    Oddball The Volplume
    Mimien the Mr. Mime (Traded)
    Boney the Marowak
    and Pecky the Pidgeotto
    My first significant loss was Pothole the Dugtrio taking the hit against Giovanni's Kakashan in the first Hideout and it hurts alot since he carried me on Lt. Surge's Gym.
    So far, im enjoying it

  • @Marcomanexists
    @Marcomanexists 2 роки тому +18

    Paras is actually an S tier encounter in Gen 1 speed runs because catching it in mt moon gives you early access to dig & cut which are both huge time saves. It’s the only encounter I actually love seeing lol. But I get it in nuzelocking or casual play it’s pretty bad same with Parasect

    • @miskathonic
      @miskathonic 2 роки тому

      Paras is usually a go-to Field Move user for me in any Gen it's available early on in.

  • @williamwallace090
    @williamwallace090 3 роки тому +9

    I have mixed feelings about electrode being used as explosion reset because that's a really good idea and I think everyone should have that on the back burner if this is a gen one game then electrode has the highest base speed and thus highest crit chance excluding moves that have higher crit chances like slash. Crit thunderbolts with STAB on electrode are pretty dang good.

  • @Zer0Sen
    @Zer0Sen 3 роки тому +7

    Fearow and Dodrio are being underrated here imo. They have a decent enough movepool with really strong moves that you can get quite early on like drill peck and tri attack. Spearow gets aerial ace at 25 in gen 3 if you wait for the evolution and you have an incredibly reliable stab move that won't ever miss. Quick attack is always decent to have just in case, and you can teach either steel for coverage or stab return through TMs. Plus, of course, you can get fly before 4th gym.

  • @AstridCeleste96
    @AstridCeleste96 2 роки тому +4

    Pleading the case of Charizard in RBY-- TM03, Swords Dance, is fantastic. Set up moves are fantastic. Furthermore, having a starter with a good Physical move pool that can use this broken set up move is huge game. Charizard can have a move set including Body Slam and Earthquake alongside Swords Dance, and the only thing that resists both is Aerodactyl, which doesn't have a single Rock move to hit Charizard with and gets OHKOed by a set-up Charizard regardless. Other learners of Swords Dance are either not guaranteed or mostly have only good Normal physical attacks in their move pool.

  • @jojomizugorou5305
    @jojomizugorou5305 3 роки тому +114

    "You have the natural advantage over the AI by not being an AI"
    *Laughs in Elon Musk*

  • @gutscross9706
    @gutscross9706 4 роки тому +40

    i think mr mime is being slept on, it's almost as fast and almost as strong as kadabra but with better defenses (especially sp def), gets nasty plot and calm mind, and gaining fairy type later helps, ppl often forget it packs 100 sp atk and 90 speed, and has tm moves like thunderbolt that kadabra lacks, i'd put it A if that's where kadabra and hypno are

    • @spegasparce1389
      @spegasparce1389 4 роки тому +5

      Also Encore. Mr. Mime is insanely good.

    • @eonshade6297
      @eonshade6297 2 роки тому

      It can also baton pass cm boosts.

  • @kerbe3
    @kerbe3 4 роки тому +33

    You know what I love about Bulbasaur? It was grass/poison so right from the start of the game you are immune to poison damage. Bulbasaur I think is easy mode, it's super effective against the first two gyms and has resistance to electric.

    • @ShinuGuardian
      @ShinuGuardian 4 роки тому +14

      Yes, it very much is. The starters of Kanto are quite literally difficulty modes ranking from easy, medium and hard. Even their order on the table is that of a difficulty choice.

    • @xXTheBlast63Xx
      @xXTheBlast63Xx 4 роки тому +3

      @@ShinuGuardian Squirtle is easier tho

    • @ShinuGuardian
      @ShinuGuardian 4 роки тому +6

      @@xXTheBlast63Xx nope. I don't know where you got that from, but just looking at gyms and the elite 4, you can easily tell Bulbasaur has an edge over Squirtle.

    • @xXTheBlast63Xx
      @xXTheBlast63Xx 4 роки тому +2

      @@ShinuGuardian water types are notoriously better because they have an insane coverage, and Blastoise is no exception.

    • @KiranasOfRizon
      @KiranasOfRizon 4 роки тому +19

      @@xXTheBlast63Xx By the time water type coverage becomes more relevant than grass type coverage in gen 1, you have access to many better water types. Squirtle's certainly not a bad starter, but Bulbasaur is objectively better if you consider the gyms you have to face:
      Brock: Not much difference between vine whip and water gun here
      Misty: Both resist water, but Ivysaur has the super effective hits
      Surge: Ivysaur resists electric, Wartortle gets rekt.
      Erika: Ivysaur resists better, but Wartortle may pack ice beam. Still, by this time, you should have better ways of dealing with grass types than your starter (unless you And after Erika, Lapras is free, so the benefits of a water starter are gone completely. Not to mention you could have trained a Gyarados.

  • @karlenewilliams3198
    @karlenewilliams3198 3 роки тому +6

    I love he used how good it is in a nozlocks to rank the pokemon and not how good it is in a regular

  • @zacharydavis8665
    @zacharydavis8665 3 роки тому +7

    Farfech'd's redeeming quality in Gen 1 is that you get it in a trade and levels up faster, but it doesn't really make up for sucking so much. XD

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 3 роки тому +1

      LEFT OFF THE T IN FARFETCH'D!

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 3 роки тому +2

      It’s solid in fire red leaf green because it can sweep every blue fight thanks to him leading the garbage that is pidgeot and having swords dance.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 3 роки тому

      @@ultimaterecoil1136 A bit easier said than done. In the champion fight, Pidgeot has Whirlwind and Feather Dance to counter such a sweeping attempt. Even then, he’s guaranteed to have at least one Intimidate mon (plus there’s Rhydon).

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 3 роки тому

      @@skeetermania3202 one rhydon isn’t an issue because it gets sent out first and should realistically get ohko by steel wing ( farfetched is likely to have some attack evs as a flying type part of its job would be handling fighting types which tend to have attack evs) And 2 pidgeot is laughably easy to setup on if you carry taunt since it’s only attack is Ariel ace in the champ fight which can’t even 2hit ko a farfetched without a crit( let alone something that has actually good stats). And slash crits pretty much can ohko his whole team even at plus 4 which is the worst case scenario minus rhydon for obvious reasons. Farfetched is just the most accessible way to exploit blue’s massive setup weaknesses.

  • @MrCrowley2474
    @MrCrowley2474 2 роки тому +3

    One of Jan's favourite pastimes is finding tiny Pokemon with higher attack stats than Onix.

  • @mafiablokes
    @mafiablokes Рік тому +3

    I love watching these because more often than not it completely goes against my perceptions I had of these Pokémon as a child 😂

  • @aaronsings007
    @aaronsings007 3 роки тому +5

    Just a little correction but Venomoth actually never gets compound eyes. Venonat does but once it evolves, it loses that ability.

  • @lisachaffin3671
    @lisachaffin3671 3 роки тому +5

    I think regular Ninetales should be given a second chance as a gym leader or elite four ace, Nasty plot, solar beam, flamethrower, agility, drought would be just perfectly difficult for a new game. If they wanted it to be nasty, give it a bright powder, leftovers, or sitrus berry to help set up. If they wanted easier, take away the drought and agility and give it sunny day to make it harder to set up ( I personally think this could still be to weak, so maybe give it a power herb to kill under prepped teams with one one fire counter to prevent an easy water or ground sweep *cough Flannery*.) Or maybe they could mix up the classic strat by doing a more tanky/crippler strat, (calm mind, mystical fire, willow wisp, stored power) with leftovers or a sitrus berry

  • @misolaneous
    @misolaneous 4 роки тому +79

    Rating Crobat and Magnezone but not Pory-2 or Pory-Z >.>
    Either do all the evolutions of Gen 1 Pokemon or none of them lmao

    • @zacharyng4925
      @zacharyng4925 4 роки тому +3

      i dont think youre getting any Porygons in nuzlockes so i think not rating them is fine

    • @xaropevic7918
      @xaropevic7918 4 роки тому +1

      So why he ranked some of other trade evolutions, such as golem?

    • @LucasCphillop
      @LucasCphillop 4 роки тому +2

      @@xaropevic7918 If you are playing a ROM, using the Universal Pokemon Randomizer (IDK if there's another tool), you can make trade evolutions happen by level up. Some players choose to use that option while playing.

    • @benjiiiiiiiii
      @benjiiiiiiiii 3 роки тому +4

      You could just go buy a Porygon and use it as that city's encounter. It's a legal Pokemon.

    • @misolaneous
      @misolaneous 3 роки тому +1

      @@benjiiiiiiiii this, also randomised nuzlocks too.
      But the point isn't regarding the ability to get certain mons, its the fact that he evaluated some 2nd and 4th gen Pokemon instead of all 1st gen evos

  • @SoggySlopster
    @SoggySlopster 3 роки тому +17

    “Parasect is terrible on nuzlocks”
    Haydunn would like a word with you

    • @itsjacco7323
      @itsjacco7323 3 роки тому

      The most underrated comment here

  • @zhemle
    @zhemle 3 роки тому +22

    "Ice pokemon are basically garbage"
    *Me raiding gyms mostly with abomasnow and glaceon*: uhm... Well this is awkward 🗿👀

    • @tokiwartooth5752
      @tokiwartooth5752 3 роки тому +7

      I assume you do so in Pokemon GO? The mainline games are waaaay different. Ice types are garbage, end of story.
      Ice types moves, on the other hand, are great.

    • @zhemle
      @zhemle 3 роки тому

      @@tokiwartooth5752 well yes, I play it on pokemon go, since some people can't really afford spending a lot of money for nintendo and pokemon games (even though i want to) 😂

    • @tokiwartooth5752
      @tokiwartooth5752 3 роки тому

      @@zhemle Then nothing is awkward. 🤷‍♂️

    • @rickyailion9751
      @rickyailion9751 3 роки тому

      Are ice types really good in Pokémon go? I’m not very familiar with the game so I’m genuinely curious.

    • @graveyardsmash2711
      @graveyardsmash2711 3 роки тому

      The Pokémon in Go function very differently than Pokémon in mainline games. Ice types like Glaceon, Walrein, and Lapras are ridiculously good with a weather boost. Swampert and Rhyperior are also stronger than a good chunk of pseudo legendaries in Go.

  • @LordFalconZero
    @LordFalconZero 3 роки тому +15

    My Hypno carried me through the elite 4... As I was feeling cocky after beating Surge, I lost my starter to a pursuit crit. Feeling totally bummed out, I went into the next route to grind and get my next catch, and I found Siesta, my Hypno. Not only did she fill my starters shoes, she straight up carried me to the very end giving me my first ever nuzlocke win. Without her, I know for a fact that run would have died. B tier seems low to me, she'll always be grade A for me.

  • @StarfieldDisarray
    @StarfieldDisarray Рік тому +2

    When I was doing a lot of Gen 2 Nuzlockes, I had to ban Slowbro from my runs because it's just insanely bulky with great coverage and threatening damage, and like any good 'mon it's basically free with Dupes Clause as Slowpoke Well has only Slowpoke and Zubat. Arguably the best 'mon in Johto imo.

  • @ryuuronin9852
    @ryuuronin9852 2 роки тому +1

    Slight notes on Nuzlocke viability in Gen 1: the Spec Attack and Spec Def stats are o e combined Special stat. Also crit chance was influenced by the Speed stat, so good speed Normal types with Slash, like Persian, we're actually considered pretty overpowered.
    Also the pre Physical/Special move split mixes up the viability of movesets.

  • @johnkvartanian
    @johnkvartanian 4 роки тому +99

    Shouldn’t we consider this in the context of actual gen 1 games? Cause things like guts and intimidate didn’t exist back then and would totally change some of these rankings

    • @Lside1340
      @Lside1340 4 роки тому +5

      Dude fire red and leaf green dude gen 3 remake

    • @sineadthomas2024
      @sineadthomas2024 4 роки тому +33

      Yeah the problem is that the original gen 1 games (Not the gen 3 remakes), are kinda... bad. Its like Mario Party, where they spawned a great series, but isn't actually that great

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 3 роки тому +4

      Sinead Thomas
      FRLG didn’t exactly age well either. Not being able to evolve any Pokémon where the evolution isn’t in the Kanto Dex until you beat the game and not being able to get Pokémon like Espeon and Umbreon at all because the Day-Night cycle wasn’t in Gen 1 was just such a hilariously dumb move. Like wtf was the point of that and what’s the logic behind it? Yeah sure, I‘m gonna keep a Golbat on my team for the whole freaking game, you know, because it was such a classic in *good ol Gen 1.* It’s good to know that my Pokémon doesn’t love me until I show it the National Dex, I‘m sure half the fanbase can relate to this sentiment. Crobat is lame anyway, actually being useful and all. Thank you, FRLG, for severely limiting my team building options.

    • @sineadthomas2024
      @sineadthomas2024 3 роки тому +3

      @@rainpooper7088 I respect FRLGs decisions though. They made a conscious descision to do something stupid (which they do in most Pokemon games) as opposed to RGB where they just messed up

    • @davidrummeney7598
      @davidrummeney7598 3 роки тому

      I feel you John

  • @libra3655
    @libra3655 2 роки тому +4

    I've been a fan of Scyther ever since it eluded me in the safari zone in gen 1 and now I'm afraid of where it'll get ranked

  • @blfrye3
    @blfrye3 4 роки тому +7

    I love the Mario Sunshine music in the back

  • @rawbebaba
    @rawbebaba Рік тому +1

    Butterfree is S tier to me. Super effective in the early game when most of your studs are still on thier first form and in danger of being killed. Being able to sleep all your big opponents, sleep rare encounters. Butterfree is really your only chance to catch Abra. Then as Butterfree starts to lose effectiveness and your team begins to solidify you can use your Butterfree as the safe switch. Switch him him heal up your other mons and if he falls he falls.
    So to me Butterfree is A tier because let's face it if you're going to lose a nuz it normally starts unraveling early game. Butterfree is a GREAT way to stabilize the early game, best way to secure catches on good encounters.

  • @kevinclause4p55p5
    @kevinclause4p55p5 2 роки тому +2

    Sandslash gets Stab dig which is 150 base power very early game with tm. This obliterates Lt surge, all of team rocket. The ghosts. Koga, and Blaine. For the late game it gets earthquake and you obliterate the Agatha lottery.

  • @nameistaken
    @nameistaken 3 роки тому +9

    Alolan Muk really stood the test in my most recent Nuzlocke. Belongs in that A tier.

  • @usernamekh
    @usernamekh 4 роки тому +4

    49:13 if you allow breeding in nuzlockes, ditto is S tear

  • @ConcaveDave
    @ConcaveDave 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve found butterfree to be at the front of my team in the fire red nuzlocke I started about a week ago (though it is my first nuzlocke and I’m currently going through silph co tower) because it has a huge special attack and sleep powder, and dream eater (a base 100 power psychic move *which heals butterfree*) can be learned from an npc in pewter city after learning cut and/or surf. It’s fairly specific but a sleep powder dream eater combo (both moves have 15 pp) is *really* good. Personal S tier

  • @mitchy98
    @mitchy98 2 роки тому +1

    Gen 1 Nidoking was cracked dude. He is used in every playthrough ever as the main pokemon...

  • @Owlr4ider
    @Owlr4ider 5 місяців тому +1

    My issue with early game only Pokémon like Butterfree is that while they're certainly very strong in the early game, the time you spend leveling them up is wasted and leaves your other Pokémon that you will actually use in the later parts of the game under leveled and thus require even more grinding. So to me these early game Pokémon are only used as a last resort, like for example Butterfree if you start with Charmander but even than it's not really necessary as you can get 6 random Pokémon at level 14 for Brock and eventually grind him with only bad and neutral matchups.

  • @someguy2690
    @someguy2690 3 роки тому +6

    Onix is a decent sacrificial stealth rock setter.

    • @joaogomes9405
      @joaogomes9405 3 роки тому

      Being a throwaway pokemon meant to use 1 move and then die is really pretty fucking bad still

  • @phaseblokadexxx
    @phaseblokadexxx 4 роки тому +7

    Just did my first nuz
    Poke'Casualties 11
    Lv lock: 2-4 lv higher than opponents
    Final Elite four team:
    Blaziken/Blitzken (R101)
    Swellow/Limes (R116)
    Starmie/Star Star(Lilycove City)
    Absol/Calypso (R120)
    Agron/Lulabelle (Granite Cave)
    Gardevoir/Ella (R102)
    MVP Was: Star Star
    I did not allow in battling healing but I did heal in between battles almost got swept by elite 4 ghost pokes because my only counter was Calypso with bite >.< and with 2 Psychic types on my team as well as a lead like Blitzken who was doing squat with fire blast cause he was Naughty.. 2 of my pokes where nearly 1 shot.
    Lulabelle got chipped pretty low
    And Blitzken was hit by a earthquake by one of spooks i think...
    Anyway 5 out 6 was in red by the end of that battle I was able to beat the rest of the elite four fairly easy though I did kinda had a blonde moment against the dragon sailor guy. When I thought I had no outright counter except Lulabelle with rock slide which I did not want to 100% Rely on Due to her serious inability to take special attacks but than I remembered Star Star had ice beam and all was well in my world again....

  • @jacobtridef48
    @jacobtridef48 3 роки тому +45

    "best nuzlocker in the world". most people prob couldnt say that with a straight face lol

    • @brrrkic
      @brrrkic 3 роки тому +2

      Makes me cringe in every video

  • @toastertubbo
    @toastertubbo 8 місяців тому

    It's always so jarring to see these pro Poketubers make these videos, and how little they actually know about the overall series, like which Pokemon came out in which gen

  • @PrinceDman
    @PrinceDman 10 місяців тому +1

    Farfetchd is really underated here. In early gens it gets early swords dance and can sweep teams quite easily.

    • @Tweenythepriest
      @Tweenythepriest 9 місяців тому

      Was looking for this comment. Farfetch'd is really good, very much above average in gen 1, and since Jan accounts for gen 1 in the other pokemon, that F-tier ranking was certainly a miss.
      Also, isn't Mr. Mime a bit low?

  • @ArthurTRead
    @ArthurTRead 4 роки тому +17

    "you get jynx super late"
    I didn't get jynx really late when I played a normal run of leafgreen
    I got it at a decent point in the game, used it and I loved it tbh
    then again I was bad at pokemon when I played the game so idk
    I'd willingly use it again in another playthrough though

    • @CaptainKirbyCK
      @CaptainKirbyCK 3 роки тому +4

      You can get it before the 4th gym in Kanto. Just need a super rod for a Poliwhirl.

    • @theeman2577
      @theeman2577 3 роки тому +1

      @@CaptainKirbyCK think you can even get our before 3rd gym

    • @CaptainKirbyCK
      @CaptainKirbyCK 3 роки тому

      @@theeman2577 True, I forgot about skipping Surge

  • @JustBasicJoseph
    @JustBasicJoseph 4 роки тому +6

    Honestly want to try Nuzlocking, great video hope to take on the challenge one day

    • @ManuelHernandez-xp3lq
      @ManuelHernandez-xp3lq 4 роки тому

      Try it with a friend it’s so much more fun!!

    • @kingofsauce1319
      @kingofsauce1319 4 роки тому +1

      It's not as bad as you'd think for the vanilla games and actually makes them somewhat challenging
      There are several romhacks I wouldn't recommend trying it on unless you like to struggle

    • @JustBasicJoseph
      @JustBasicJoseph 4 роки тому

      King ofSauce I like to struggle 😌

    • @lanceknightmare
      @lanceknightmare 4 роки тому

      @@JustBasicJoseph Emerald Kaizo is the toughest one I know of. The Fire Red/Leaf Green Kaizo I see experienced players beating it in less than an hour just using a decent amount of preparation.

  • @CinnBreed
    @CinnBreed 3 роки тому +3

    Arcanine and Jolteon carried me through my entire first Moon run with Decidueye.

  • @remote24
    @remote24 2 роки тому +2

    persian is so underrated. i fought some of my friends in gen2 and persian swept through half of their teams before going down. its not the best pokemon ever, but its speed combined with a good variety of possible moves makes it unpredictable. so B tier is well deserved

  • @tyguy275
    @tyguy275 3 роки тому +2

    20:00 when I played through fire red, I didn’t need to wait for flamethrower to evolve it. All I did was grind money near Celadon with a Meowth Payday, bought the flamethrower TM from the Game Corner, and evolved it, all before the gym.

  • @hankpeterschmidt8626
    @hankpeterschmidt8626 2 роки тому +7

    As a huge Aerodactyl fan, I’m just glad it got a decent rank. I can easily use it to evade the strongest attacks

  • @coenpelsrijcken8530
    @coenpelsrijcken8530 3 роки тому +5

    flareon is a sleeper gem in gen 2 actually! specifically in crystal, if you manage to get the fire stone from one of the phone trainers, you can teach it shadow ball, which is physical.
    I liked it a lot in nuzlocke format!

  • @brycedalle1790
    @brycedalle1790 4 роки тому +37

    pretty in depth list for someone who's never done a nuzlocke before

    • @EvilEri11
      @EvilEri11 4 роки тому +1

      ?

    • @bloodwolfgaming9269
      @bloodwolfgaming9269 4 роки тому +1

      He is saying that this list is pretty in-depth for an individual watching who has never done a nuzlocke before.

    • @brycedalle1790
      @brycedalle1790 4 роки тому +6

      @@bloodwolfgaming9269 no, the man doing this list has never done or completed a nuzlocke. That is a fact.

    • @luminagames3814
      @luminagames3814 4 роки тому +2

      This guy has a shit ton of nuzlocks on his UA-cam channel and outside of it? So you're wrong.

    • @brycedalle1790
      @brycedalle1790 4 роки тому +2

      @@luminagames3814 no, you are wrong. Shut up nerd

  • @enderstrikegaming8578
    @enderstrikegaming8578 3 роки тому +2

    I guarantee you most of the dislikes are charizard lovers mad that charizard ranked lower than butterfree even though realistically that is how good charizard actually is

    • @bvd_vlvd
      @bvd_vlvd 3 роки тому

      I didn't dislike the video, but some placements are so off that I actually completely understand people that disliked. Charizard is close to what it should be, underrating poison and ground types for nothing on the other hand...

  • @strongside4565
    @strongside4565 3 роки тому +2

    In Gens where Venusaur can mega, it is a niche S tier in my book. Its defensive coverage with Thick Fat is bananas and anything not rocking strong physical or psychic moves is in for a bad time. With defensive strats being more risky in nuzlocke, I can see it being lower, but it's thicc af.

  • @Kayceesoutdoorliving
    @Kayceesoutdoorliving 3 роки тому +3

    Anytime I play the games I always bring a weedle and/or caterpie to their final evolutions. I really wish butterfree was more useful late game. I nearly always use it up to surge and box it after him.

  • @BaileyYTB
    @BaileyYTB 3 роки тому +4

    Ah yes. Crobat and magnezone. Classic gen 1 mons

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 3 роки тому

      MAGNEZONE IS SPELLED WITH 2 E'S, NOT 2 A'S!

  • @TechnoL33T
    @TechnoL33T 3 роки тому +15

    Zapdos too good! Every time I get Zapdos, it's the star of my party!

    • @halfpace1462
      @halfpace1462 3 роки тому +2

      Just wait untill you fight the incredibly common golem or rhydon with absolutely NO way to lose to zapdos

    • @TechnoL33T
      @TechnoL33T 3 роки тому

      @Aggelos Anastasoulakis noh

    • @mrunique9989
      @mrunique9989 3 роки тому

      @@TechnoL33T noob

  • @andreasmarinakos6120
    @andreasmarinakos6120 3 роки тому +2

    Whatever playlist he is used for this stream is straight fire

  • @haruhirogrimgar6047
    @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 роки тому +2

    Proud of my boys Venasaur, Raticate (my first shiny,) and Kingler.

  • @kassiuswinford6182
    @kassiuswinford6182 3 роки тому +3

    I'm four badges in on my first ever nuzlocke run. Chose fire red, and wish I had known about this video before. Only 1 major death so far, my fearow got hyperfang crit.

  • @amparolopez6236
    @amparolopez6236 4 роки тому +9

    Is this in Terms of a Gen 1 Nuzlocke? Or a Nuzlocke in the modern games?

    • @daisysmartheart1947
      @daisysmartheart1947 4 роки тому +4

      From what I can tell it's likely based mostly off of fr/lg? a few outliers but seems to be consistently there.

    • @hypnoticsheep142
      @hypnoticsheep142 3 роки тому +1

      He sometimes averages it, it depends on if later gens drastically improve it.

  • @starmangalaxy2001
    @starmangalaxy2001 3 роки тому +3

    I know this is an old video, but I'm currently doing a Crystal Clear nuzlocke and am wondering what's better, Light Ball Pikachu, or Raichu. I'm leaning towards Raichu due to the extra bulk and speed along with a hold item, but the sheer power of Pikachu is tempting especially with it getting access to Surf and/or Fly in Crystal clear.

  • @Kaspar502
    @Kaspar502 5 місяців тому +2

    Beedrill in Bee-Tier 🙏🙏🙏

  • @itamarazulay7213
    @itamarazulay7213 Рік тому +1

    Venusaur with 4 weaknesses - A tier
    Charizard with 3 weaknesss " too many weaknesses"

  • @sammyttheg412
    @sammyttheg412 4 роки тому +4

    That Mario Sunshine music tho