In Depth Review: Tissot Swissmatic, Vincero, L'heure Luxe "Mid Tier" Watches | MVMT Alternatives
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2017
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I think Vincero's issue is that piece really reminds me of the Tag Carrera, but the Tag isn't necessarily such a special design that it warrants being "homaged", if you will. So where a homage to a Submariner might be justified in the world of design, there just seems like no reason to go with a very simple, classic Tag design when it would be so easy to create an original design to the same effect. It just screams "hollow" and "vapid" to me.
+Logan Hannen that's a good point. Explains why it just felt hollow
MSRP of the cheapest TAG Carrera = $2,400. Vincero Kairos Quartz MSRP = $139. That's a pretty compelling reason to do a "homage'. Certainly a much better option that buying a fake TAG.
As a Heuer fan i'd have to say that the Carerra is quite iconic, not as iconic as the Monaco but you know, it's like the rolex sub and the rolex datejust are both iconic.
My problem with vincero is the quality vs price. Sure their watches look nice but they don't warrant the price tag, I mean if they where 50-60 bucks, decent fashion watch, but they market themselves as something they're not.
Their target demographic isn't people who are into watches, people who are into watches or who know a lot about watches, it's teens and young adults such as myself that they aim to sell their watches to.
When I was about 15 or 16 all I wanted was a Daniel Wellington or a MVMT because I thought they where such cool designs at really good prices and all the people I followed promoted them.
Thank goodness I found out what bad value for money they are and how cheaply made they are. It wasn't till I got my first proper watch which actually happened to be a Tissot that I got into watches and horology, and since then I've come to love Watches of all different price points from a lot of different brands, but Tissot being my first proper watch holds a special place in my heart.
Tissot, Panerai, Omega, Tag Heuer, Seiko, Jaeger Lecoultre has to be some of my favourite watch makers. :)
That intro, pure class
Dude, I did a double take at first thinking I'd accidentally started a TGV video XD
Could we have a more in depth review of the Tissot please?
Thanks for spreading some light, I've been considering these but haven't pulled the trigger on any!
Great video! Lots of info. Thanks! Really like the L'Heure Luxe watch. Not familiar with the maker. Going to the website now!
Great video! It really illustrates just how different these watch brands are, even when they seem very similar on the surface. I look at Skagen vs. Brathwait, for example. They look the same, and to most people they are, but if you dig a little deeper, they're very different.
Love that Tissot - wish it came in a smaller size :(
#smallwristprobs
Hey Brock, could you explain a bit about the Skagen vs Brathwait comparison you're making? I'm looking at a Skagen watch right now and not sure if I should buy it. Thanks!
damn you had me fooled in the first 3 seconds i had double check whose channel i am on. the gloves the accent and even the hand gestures!
edit: i suppose the swatch sistem51, whose movement is basically what tissot uses in this watch, is a swiss made automatic that’s even cheaper?
Yes, meant to mention the sistem51, that is the groundbreaker for the price point. A better moniker would be lowest price swiss made "real watch"? I would hardly consider wearing one of the Sistem watches with all of the plastic and flair but excellent point.
Great impression, followed by an instructive review. Thank you. M
Great intro. The Tissot is a great choice. Great quality and heritage. The Vincero is a fashion watch, they are in no way higher end. This piece you reviewed looks nice but I have seen others that don’t look good at all.
Thanks for the video.
I appreciate how you are wearing gloves. Makes it easier to concentrate on the watches. Sometime back I finished a workday and went into a high end watch store and would have gladly worn gloves, but I didn't know the etiquette and I touched a face, and was quickly put in my place. Personally, right now, I would rather have a quartz because you can set it and forget it, but an automatic requires constant minding.
People have mentioned about L'Heure. Also a similar note for Vincero - it's pronounced with a "ch" - Vin-Chay-Ro. Thanks for the comparison reviews as always.
Good job! I like the introduction :) This is a good alternative (or addition) to TGV, because his channel is for enthusiasts, whereas you have a more practical and (dare I say?) business-oriented angle. Thank you for the video.
Great video. The L'heure Luxe watch is just stunningly beautiful. My first impression of it was that it looked a bit messy and "all over the place", but it grew on me within like 30 seconds.
Do you have Vincero Chrono-S watch? Not only does it look much better imo than the automatic one, but it is also cheaper. Would love to see a review of it, where you compare it to similar models (like the L'heure watch one).
Your videos are getting really good mate, watching your videos a lot lately. You are very sensible I feel.
Love from India and Germany.
Thank you! Love back to you from USA!
Love the video. Try Orient watches. Especially the Bambino. I have 3 lol. Also the Orient Polaris. I would love to see your thoughts. All in house movements. The company has been around over 70 years. For the price can not be beat. Keep up the awesome videos!! Also thank you for not pushing the fashion brands down our throat but being honest.
Excellent review. Thanks for sharing.
Think it has to be said that the movement in the Tissot Swissmatic is the same as the Swatch Sistem51 which cost about half of the Tissot.
that intro was hilarious :') great video!
You should review a Casio Edifice Watch, like the Casio Edifice EF547D which is $109 on Amazon right now, or any other Casio Edifice with the chronograph function, that line of Casio offers a lot for the price, give it a try!
where do you get such gloves ?
Congrat for the video but I personally think that Tissot choice to not give a mineral coating it’s not bad expecially on this price placement. Anti-reflective coat is so delicate for an everyday watch isn’t it? And I think (IMHO) that this choice give to the watch a fantastic retro flavour. So thinking it better I should get one :)
What is your experience with the Tissot accuracy?
TGV Intro was hilarious 😂
Any issues with the Tissot ~a year later? I'm thinking of getting it as my first watch, but I'm in college so I can't afford it busting on me. Like *at all* . I haven't even changed my phone since 2012. It can't download the latest ios and the battery lasts around 20 minutes.
Tissot was my first proper watch, what you get with a Tissot is a whole experience and entry into the world of swiss watches and horology. Tissot hits way above their price point, they've been around since 1853, they must be doing something right to still be producing and selling watches today.
Not only that but they keep time for the Moto GP, Rugby 6 nations, Tour Des France, NBA, and a few others.
Even their cheapest watch is a milestone ahead of the most expensive vincero.
Tissot uses sapphire crystal which is very strong and scratch resistant, good grade stainless steel, all of their watches use ETA movements which are used in much more expensive watches as well like Brietling, Panerai, etc.
They come in a really nice box with even a velvet storage/cleaning pouch, a book with the history of the brand, a 2 year international warranty, basically put, for the money you're paying for even the cheapest Tissot, you get a lot of value for money. Maybe I'm a bit biased because I love Tissot and I think in the entry level price range there's few brands who have to offer on their entry level pieces what tissot does.
Seiko although not swiss also has a tone of history and makes some really cool watches that are meant to work, they're very reliable. Citizen makes some decent watches too.
If you want to get into Swiss watches, Tissot is a great brand to start with. Besides their entry level affordable pieces, they do have some higher end watches as well.
Re the Vincero, if this is your watch that is fine and good, but you should definitely change the band (pace, if this has been pointed out before). The deployant buckle is bulky, is always noticeable on your wrist, and you can't really rest your wrist comfortably on a table. After buying a deployant strap for my current vintage watch, I would now always go with a standard quick release strap and buckle.
So over the past couple vids covering these watches, I️ kind of confirmed what I️ thought about the fashion watch scene, but a question I️ had or just others opinion is the smart watch market, I️ understand that they aren’t comparable to these watches, but where do they fit?
I think they're too short lived to hold my attention. No art to them IMO
I’ve been looking into the Swissmatic lately and looked up L’heure Luxe and it seems like they closed up shop. Social stopped posting in 2020 and their site is gone. Too bad, their line up seemed nice though.
I am very familiar with Vincero, given I have had experience with their products. I know they went and upgraded the specs on a lot of their older watches (particularly going to a true sapphire and a full grain strap), though I do wish they used a more premium movement for the price.
Also of note is the Kairos Automatic was discontinued long ago, and the brand has started using 9000 Series Miyotas in all but one of their automatic collections.
Hi, nice video. Out of interest, what do you and everyone think about the Swissmatic or Sistem51 movements? At first, I was very interested, as I thought it'd be a good way to buy my first Swiss Auto.
However I've been thinking: are they seen as credible automatic watches in the watch community, given the method of their production (which lacks the craftsmanship and tradition)? Since they are basically movements built by machines.
Im on the fence on whether I should buy a Tissot Everytime Swissmatic as my first auto - can't make my mind up! I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
Hey man. I contemplated between the Swissmatic and Le Locle and it seems that both movements are hard to service/non-serviceable. Comes with the price point. I got the Swissmatic cause I like the Bauhaus design.
@@RabbaniRosli hey, the design is very nice indeed. I hope it serves you well! I went for a Certina instead but the Tissot is an excellent choice too.
Hi. I've watched a few of your videos and have enjoyed them a lot! I was hoping you could help me out with something. So I saw someone was selling a woman's mother of pearl Tourneau watch. I understand Tourneau as a retailer, not as a manufacturer of their own watches. I hesitate because Tourneau appears on the time piece itself. If it is legit do you know how much it's actually worth?
Awesome intro...TGV imitation..
Just so you know, "L'Heure" is French for hour or time and is pronounced similar to "lur" or "ler"
So american of me.
Tissot swissmatic is the best...
Do you have one? If yes any issues with it? I'm thinking of getting it as my first watch, but I'm in college so I can't afford it busting on me. Like at all . I haven't even changed my phone since 2012. It can't download the latest ios and the battery lasts around 20 minutes.
@@crazej213 good point. I can see the glare on it through the whole video. I have a Tissot luxury powermatic on as I watch this video and it looks nothing like this Swissmatic as far as the glare. I'm disappointed because I wanted one for the pricepoint.
@@Rspsand07 Hmm I haven’t had any issues with mine. I’ve only been using it for a month tho. Same here I’m a student.
Review on the L'Heure Luxe!!!! Great Video btw
I’d choose the Tissot among the 3. Wish it was 38mm though
Wow awesome Watches just like you 😀 Keep them all coming 😀 X
brilliant first 3 sec...got me there haha
Can you buy watch clasps separately?
Yes you can
Won’t la heur be a fashion watch ?
I think most fashion watch collectors think of Vincero watches more as a better Daniel Wellington watch.
I just saved $$ thanks!!
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LOL the intro
Because it is a French name, the 'H' in "L'Heure" is silent, so it would be pronounced like, "lair." Just a tip that I figured you'd appreciate! Thanks for the review!
I never grasped the romance languages like I should have!
I know you were comparing watches at a similar price, but if you really want to get an idea of Vincero's value, you should have ordered one of their Kairos Quartz watches. They look the same as the $300 automatic you reviewed, but only cost $140. I like VIncero's quartz watches, but I don't see the point of paying just over double the price just to add a basic Automatic movement.
Then pay half of that and buy an Automatic Seiko 5 with an respected movement from an real brand.
Mid tier? You have a review of 3 watches. Tissot is entry level Swiss luxury and a great intro to Swiss watches. L'Heur Luxe brings its own value proposition, I suppose and is no doubt a looker. The Vincero or whatever should just be skipped altogether. You could get more lasting enjoyment from just taking the cash you would spend on the Vincero and literally lighting it on fire. At least you would have a good story to tell rather than, "check out this warm garbage I'm wearing on a strap."
You sounded exactly like tgv at the start lmo
the first 4 seconds make me jump in the chair xD
You sounded just like him!!
Kakashi Hatake sound like who?
vinceros don't come at 300 bucks lmao....They're like 200 max...But here's the thing, you don't feel strongly for it because you truly picked the wrong Vincero watch, why on earth you not pick their chronograph
vincerowatches.com/products/the-kairos-automatic-white-rose-gold
He didn't chose the wrong watch he has chosen the wrong brand.
People need to understand that Vincero watches are bought from a website called aliexpress.com, which is a wholesale website. These guys are a dropshipping company that buy watches for around $30 and sell them for over $140 with their own logo on the watch. Don’t be fooled by these watches
nobody buying a vincero is trying to have a impactful timepiece. Is a $150. It is what it is. They look great and most people know they are fashion watches
Anchor there are great looking watches out there for less than 150 with heritage. I know most people don't care about heritage but vincero is overpriced crap. There are plenty of watches that are actually worth their money. Orient bambino and seiko 5s are great examples.
80 seconds a day? I have a Laco with a Miyota and I get about 60 seconds a week, not a day. Crazy.
Yes I was very surprised. Guess need to stick to their Quartz line.
Not really a fair comparison. Remove the quartz watch. The Vincero is an automatic mvt, competing with the new Sistem51 ETA mvt which is in the Tissot. Both watches are not accurate per day to 1s, but regulate them first, and retest, IF the Sistem 51 can be regulated.
I just bought Vincero watch. I just took a big L. It was $140 i put in a discount code for $118.15.
haha that intro ..lol
Almost thought I clicked on a TGV video😂
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Honestly the designs of some of the MVMT watches are so unique. I know the quality isn't great, but I can't find anything that looks quite as modern and stylish as some of MVMT's designs. The designs of the watches in this video don't really work for me. Too old fashioned. This is why I think MVMT is so popular. It's not marketing, it's because they have watches that look like no one else's.
TheGmonst3r Yup. I have the voyager outback from MVMT and I got it cause it's so stylish. I frequently get complements on it. It also still looks good 6 months later which is all I really care about
+30 seconds per day for the Tissot, Wtf? All my 5 Seikos with 4r36 and 4r35 run at between +2 and +10 seconds a day. The one Seiko 5 I have is actually well within cosc specs with just a fraction of the cost.
I own the tissot. It is +1 or +2 per day. It is very accurate. Also it is very stylish. On the other hand, the problem with the reflections is there, but it depence on how you look at the watch. If you change the angle just a bit, it is ok. So, not very important flaw imo.
The Tissot Swissmatic 'begs' to be made 38mm; it looks unbalanced on the wrist (any wrist) at 40mm with an oversized and empty dial having a practically non-existent bezel. There's seems to be a marketing taboo for nominally sub-40mm diameter watches instead of considering how the case and dial design affects the overall wear-size of the watch. Pity, it otherwise would be a great dress or smart-casual watch (yes, it does need sapphire anti-reflective treatment).
I'm not too sure about the automatic version but on the quartz version there is a bunch if different sizes they make them in. 38mm is my favourite watch size.
it's pronounced vin(ch)ero 😊 "c" in Italian is pronounced as "ch"
I honestly did not know what channel I was on.
Vincero bellwethers are beautiful
Caleb Ford idk why watch snobs hate em
@@satvikbahuguna6940 the price is horrible. Looks like an 60€ watch to me. Seiko, Orient, Tissot, Casio, Citizen, Sea Gull and Hamilton make much better watches for far under or a bit above the price of that Vincero. You are paying for the brand with Vincero even dough its an no name brand. Its like buying an E63 amg with the Frame and engine of an old Lada.
What do you think about the Sternglas Zeitmesser Bauhaus?
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Tissot yes others no
Vincero is a great watch
You are delusional. Get an 50€ Seiko 5 and you will most likely understand.
You cant really compare a 400$ watch to a 150$.
Who is doing that? There is $299 vs $400 which is pretty close.
I think he thought you were reviewing the Vincero Kairos (Quartz). You could get the exact same Vincero Watch with a Quartz movement for just $139.
The Kavalier still 33% more
I rather pay 150 for vincero :)
Then you are an idiot. That brand name is hollow and is worth nothing. Just like every other shitty fashion watch brand. Do your research.
some people prefer to pay less for a more accurate watch.
I agree....Sometimes people shit on watches simply for the sake of saying they are not a big branded watches etc....Vincero looks good, feels good, tells time well and does everything it needs to do....I'm frankly not a watch purist I don't care what you say, I get compliments and by the way, this reviewer chose the wrong watch and the wrong combination, you would be an idiot not to chose the chronograph by Vincero over whatever he picks on the Viscero brand on the single pretext it's 'automatic'
I don’t know why y’all hate on Vincero so much. :/
@@Crybaby-dd3ls Seriously? That vincero is an automatic watch. You sure it's accurate enough?
Vincero..you must be kidding
Teddy would be ashamed...
So many words.... So few with some actual information
Your not buying a watch to tell the time? I've never heard such a ridiculous comment.Why do people spend hundreds or sometimes even thousands on expensive luxury watches if they lose so much time on a daily/weekly basis.?shouldn't a watch be judged on it performance rather than on its apperence.? If you go out and spend a million pound on a buggati you are paying mostly for the performance of the car rather than what it looks like surely.?Shouldn't the same thing apply to a watch.? If a watch can't keep accurate time then what's the purpose of having it in the first place.? I believe the watch industry (especially high end watches)will be the thing of the past in another 10 years or so. Sales are falling across the whole of the watch market and I believe its to do with the fact that the method of making these mechanical watches is an outdated one. I mean a mechanical watch will never be as accurate as a smartwatch or smartphone. I think a lot of it is just down too damn right snobbery and just buying something purely for the name.
The tissot swissmatic has 21mm lug width....................Absolutely stupid and impractical. Way to go Tissot..................
21mm aren't that bad, I kinda like them since you can put an 20mm or an 22mm strap on them but with metal bracelets you would be out of luck, maybe some sandpaper would help.
You keep showcasing the "fashion" watches, and instead of mvmt, Vincero? You justify that by using it as an example of over priced and low quality watch? A 5 year warranty, sure, it breaks and again a low cost to replace it. That is business.
I dislike how watch guys are so quick to forgive flaws in multi-hundred dollar watches. EDCers aren't quite so quick to forgive missing features or details in guns and knives.
Great point!
VINCERO look gorgeous...more elegant..veni..vidi...vici..!
ronron Soberano_V vincero fan boy
@@michaelaguilar4578 lol
If it would cost 80€ then maybe but for 300? You could get soo much better watches from real brands like Seiko.
Vincero is not a “mid-tier” watch. Vincero is cheap, bulk, alibaba shit. Ugly watches, overpriced, better watches at same price.
TGV is a creep.
Phafanapolis why ? Lol
Vinceros are pure garbage
Vincerno is a disgusting brand. You're basically paying for garbage.