Still My Favorite Mono Synth // Korg's Arp Odyssey
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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@AlexBallMusic 's excellent ARP documentary : • Electromotive - The St...
0:00 Intro
4:08 Oscillators
4:59 Filters
8:00 Ring Mod
10:18 Modulation Begins
13:21 LFO Mod Mention
16:35 S&H Mixer
21:02 Jam Break
22:27 PPC Pads
23:30 Arp Jam
24:51 Lead Patch
27:13 Duophony (and note priority complaining)
30:30 Complaining into Reissue Chatter
34:08 Quick Version Comparison / recs
This is the best-looking synth of them all. It would not have looked out of place on the old TV Show Space 1999
'Nailed it.' Perfect reference.
The space 1999 soundtrack is occasionally part of my dj set 😅😅😅
Yeah, Space 1999 had that look. Good one. I like the black and orange one because it's soooo 1978, My house growing up had wood paneling and burnt orange carpeting the Rev3 has that vibe. Can't decide if I want to buy one though.
This synth is gorgeous in white!!!
Arp Odyssey is the sound of Herbie Hancock's Head Hunters, that's what it always reminds me of...
His book is an awesome read, highly recomend.
The Odyssey is SO unique sonically... so gritty, so dirty, so raw! Love it!
Nice tour! I remember lusting (as a broke teen) for the 2600 and Odyssey when they hit the store. I love how the Odyssey filter wraps its waves in soft cotton!!
Got an Axxe?Solus? I had an Odyssey, used it to lust after a girl. Now watch "how to make 70s p*rno music " by Alex Ball
The Odyssey is a instrument who can sing if you find the sweet spot . It’s a beautiful instrument
Arp Odyssey is the theme of the day. Korg's kit was in my news stream this morning! The Behringer version is on my wishlist but hasn't hit the top yet.
Something about this setup and say, the SH-101 is so nice. It's limited enough to make you really rinse every element for all it can do.
Wow, beautiful. Almost as classic sounding as the older Moog sounds. Thanks.
Almost?
@@eriklucasmusic Yes, my understanding is, the R.A. Moog Company (later known as Moog Music), debuted in 1964. Original production models spanned from 1965-1981.
After the first 3 notes I thought we were getting a synth national anthem 😂
LOL next time
NO LONGER A EURORACK COMPANY! I LOVE YOU!
Of course! Bigger things ahead 😁😁😁
It's exciting that it's so faithful to the originals - the only feature I wish I had in my old Rev. 3 is the multiple filter selection. I also love that they didn't try to force in the old knob control for pitch bend from the original Rev. 1 because once I got used to the pads they work pretty well. I think the rubber piece is a little looser in the reissue.
Makes me really happy to see this synth celebrated and I'm glad we get to enjoy this old tech as if it was brand new!
For Leads and Bass, it's hard not to fall in love with this Synth. I have the soft versions of this (Korg & Arturia Arp 2600), and it's easy to see the advantage of the hardware version, it's so tweakable. But having an MPK249 midi controller, I hope to learn how to map some of the more useful switches to avoid the mouse tweaking. Great video Jorb, love the work you do on this channel!
The tabletop Oddy is probably the best thing Korg has made since the Kronos. I'm totally not an ARP guy, I have the only ARP i ever wanted, the Pro/DGX, but the cultural importance of the Oddy is indisputable, and that whiteface tabletop version you have is absolutely the only other ARP i've ever wanted. (I just can't figure out a reason to own one, other than to play Chameleon all day long.)
I watched this again. I think the Odyssey just got a lot closer to the top of my list! 😎
Nice run-down, thanks! I really like your trick of applying S&H to the synced oscillator.
Great video, thank you so much for sharing!
Great info here! Arp Jam and Lead Patch portions are amazing!
i just got mine! i love it :) thanks for the trick connecting cv out to cv in, just what i needed
What a great summery at the end of this video.. Really wraps up the full circle of where we are at today with Synths ;) Another excellent video Jorb.. Hope your starting to feel better, health is wealth..
I'm probably a lone voice in the wilderness here, but I don't get people's excitement about the white livery. Give me black-n-gold! Actually... give me a 2600M instead, I think that's the one I have my sights on. Not that I don't love the Odyssey, of course. It's a proven classic, and my teen years would not have been the same without the sound of Billy Currie. :D
This is actually one of the best videos showcasing the Odyssey.
I don't have one but I do have the free VSTi from Elektrostudio (2009'ish release) but never got into exploring it deeper because I simply didn't get it.
This video is inspirational. Thx a ton.
Just noticed the vintage (style?) Casio watch too. Very nice.
Always wanted this, but it was out of my price range and bought a used Novation bass station II instead and that thing was my WORKHORSE for years….
One of the best Odyssey solos is Ultravoxs' Billy Currie on Gary Numans live cover of "On Broadway" from around 1979\1980. Well worth a listen. For those of you that don't appreciate the subtle nuances of Numans vocals 🤔 the solo begins after the vocal ends.
Don’t forget John Foxx his work with a Odyssey he used it everywhere.
@@NTRSN-Archive metamatic was an amazing album. One of my favourites to this day. The Odyssey seems to catch the colder, dystopian sound more easily than the Model D does to my ear. That's what I love about it.
The sync and ring mod on this thing sound fantastic!
Played an Odyssey for the first time ever a few weeks ago and loved it--instantaneous Berlin School/krautrock vibes. Also, I just picked up a TT-78 and it's fantastic! Really cool, kinda under-the-radar drum machine.
This may not be relevant for your controller but may help a few people out there with regard to the annoying note priority issue:
I'm waiting on the Odyssey module but I have the 2600M for a while and the low-note priority drove me crazy. I'm using a Keystep 37 as a controller and I realised that if I use chord mode on the controller to manually select a single note as my "chord" then any key press automatically overrides the lower (or higher) note and thus plays just like most modern synthesisers even if you're holding a lower key and hitting something higher.
This should be exactly the same with the Odyssey as the controller is always sending the last MIDI note that is triggered.
I assume that any MIDI controller that allows you to set your own one-key chords will give the same results so do play around with yours if you think this is an option :)
Great video! I have the B2600 and I love it but am envious of the 2 and 4 pole options as well as the looping envelopes.
I love my b2600. I want the B-Odd to go with it.
Arp Odyssey looks like very inspiring instrument
I love mine so much that I want to get a second one in case something happens to the original.
The note priority is my favorite part of it. Lean into writing basslines with melodies.
Hey Jorb good video as always, I dig the more laid-back, conversational tone indispersed with musical interludes your videos have.
Do you rate the Behringer Odyssey as a way to get that same Odyssey sound with full size keys?
I have the same one as you. I love it. Still wanna pick up one of the mini keyboard versions, because I too love gear.
I would like to have a fullsize one in the white faceplate, but I recognize I really don't need it.. Hahaa
Me too, it's my favourite mono now! Sold it once, and now got it back and will never sell it again. I love the arp Odyssey, the only thing i don't like, is not having a midi through output. Makes me want to get a arp 2600 aswell for experimental sounds. and the odyssey for bread and butter sounds. By the way, my amp envelope fader is a bit noisy, any idea what could couse this?
same here, still love the rev1.
I want an oscilloscope like the one in this video so bad
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it's my favourite monosynth too. (out of Moog Sirin and Behringer Model D). I wish the Arp had a 440 Hz test tone for tuning (use my Model D for that) and the PPC is rubbish, but otherwise it's such a great sounding and inspiring synth. I especially like the drive circuit and the 3 switchable filter models.
I have the rev 3 module. What a beautiful synth.
Indeed! Shout out to Suit-and-Tie-Guy!
I bought the Post-Lawsuit-Filter at Knobcon in 2019. LOVE IT!!!
Great job bringing the love for the KARP Odyssey, Josh!
Great overview dude! I've always wanted to check out a hardware Odyssey, I've got a 2600 M but its interesting how different it sounds than this thing.
Cheers, thanks Miles. 2600 M is something I really want to try, just like the odyssey I love what it represents. I know they're similar in circuit design, but the way you interact with them is so different...some day!
The Odyssey is a scaled-down 2600.
me 2! really enjoyed this, thanks!
I agree. However, it wasn't until I got a Chase Bliss Warped Vinyl that it really took off... which exposes the issue you talked about - XLR only. I had to build a cable XLR - unbal 1/4" to use the pedal. Low output not hot enough to drive a pedal.
I wish to make a hellscape with this.
At least with a digital recreation, I can vouch that it's perfect for that. Deep booming low end, detunable oscillators, pitch bend, and best of all, sample and hold, you'll be creating hellscapes in no time. Just missing a little bit of reverb, but frankly anything will work well enough, from a generic plugin to a decent guitar pedal if you mix the wet and dry signal.
@@GeorgeL909 yup, I heard the first sound and was like 😏
Also, take your pick of reverbs in my studio, I have so many 😂
you're right my odyssey and the ms20 mini wild out. I love my moogs but the new korg stuff has been great since the monotron. i still want to try that 2600m. I've only touched one of those once.
Great synth and video, Jorb! I have a Bodyssey version, still learning about this synth and love it lots.
But, is there a way to delay the lfo? I know it can be manually performed, just wish there was a way to set it specifically. I guess I’m a sucker for it on the Juno 106.
Cool demo. It sounds great! I've been considering the 2600 M as my first analog synth or (for a lot more $) a Prophet 10. For now my digital synths get the job done.
I have both and if I may offer my opinion, I would go with the Prophet 10. Not only is it polyphonic, but nearly every parameter is midi-controllable so you could do some crazy stuff with it that you couldn't do on vintage Prophet 5s
@@ncapone87 Thank you for your feedback. I really love what I've heard and seen from the P10. Considered a Prophet X or Prophet 6 but the 10 sounded better to me.
@@MusicWizard85 I also have a 6 and it has some features that are really cool: sub osc, effects, arpeggiator/sequencer, wave morphing, HPF and all the parameters are midi-controllable as well. You can get most of the way to the 10 but fewer voices overall.
Nice rig
Great Vid! What is the little screen that monitors your wavelengths called? it so cool and retro looking!
with a 400 Euro echo, everything sounds great...
Good video! Is the MIDI strictly just note on/ note off or will it respond to controller info?
I believe note on/off and pitch bend is everything
Absolutely terrific sounding synth, always was, still is. Hampered by PPC pads...
really like the sound even more 70’s than moog cause moog is eternal!
One of the biggest synth regrets I have was selling this exact white desktop fella. (much more than I regret ditching Waldorf XTK, Machinedrum UW, Prophet 6, Mono Evolver Keyboard and Moog Voyager). The only other thing I regret selling as much was the Roland SH-101 when I was a teenager, especially because it cost me £100. But apart from the relative value, I'd take an Odyssey over an SH-101, most of the time. Maybe the the original MFB Tanzbar, though drum machines are a bit more functional.
How would you describe the difference in sound between this and the 2500?
I just recently got one, same white model - is yours going out of tune like every 5 minutes? I find out that it is always out of tune in the morning when I come in the studio and the heating was off. IT's VCO so that's the way?
When I think of the white face odyssey, I think of the gorgeous sound Steve Miller got out of it.
Hi Jorb, I read that the desktop module has a LFO retriggering hardware bug that completely stops the LFO. Is this only a problem when using the external I/O to circumvent ADSR retriggering? Or are there other instances when the LFO stops?
Also, do you think Korg is likely to re-issue the desktop module in Rev 1 finish? I've been trying to find a Rev 1 in either key or module forever, but used units never seem to pop up for sale in my country.
Oh is that just the desktop module? I didnt know that was specific to this version. For me, it was with a midi keyboard in, i honestly dont remember if it did it with the CV / gate. I dont think theyre going to make more desktops honestly, but wish they would too
7:47 hey jorb. Looks like you could use a female XLR to 1/4”TS cable?
Absolutely! I just havent got any around.
going to assume the difference between type 3 vcf's are down to fixing the filter error. arp had a design flaw in the value of their vcf's and it causes them to not pass much audio above I believe it was 6khz, a lot of people had this fixed on their machines (odyssey's and 2600's) as do much vcf clones of the post lawsuit vcfs.
funny though, the reissues left the error in, as do the behringer clones Iirc
Hey Jorb, can you do a comparison between your Odyssey and the WayOutWare Odyssey plugin on the MPC?
To me, nobody is going to be choosing between them , they arent competing really so I dont see the value...
The mpc plugin sounds great, and to me the big draw is having a control layout that gives you the same options as the odyssey, so that leads you to the same / similar sonic results.
Less so that the core sound is identical, way less important.
@Jorb So you tune VCO to whatever note/sound you want, then if I press a C on keyboard it will be a C? Im confused. So the tuning of the VCo is for the "sound/pitch" only, then the keyboard is a regular tuned keyboard?
They add their values together, is one way to think of it.
So I press c, then tune the fader to c, and as I move up or down the keybed, it adds/ subtracts in semitones.
If I tuned it to something other than c, I would still be adding or subtracting semitones, it's all just voltages.
Thank you.
eargasm at 25 minutes in
Same
Why is the ARP Odyssey Module sold out? I would love to get the white module, why is this only available second hand, and not brand new? Does anyone knows?
It was limited edition several years ago
@@JorbLovesGear Dang it, I should've bought it back then, I can buy the Behringer version, but I would love to include the module version. I have the feeling second-hand gonna be even more expensive then buying it new because the aren't avalaible anymore
There are many ARP ODDYSEY synths, which were made by KORG. Which exactly model is this? Thank you Jorb
There's just one version of the desktop module, it's 86% size
@@JorbLovesGear Oops! Mistake😅
Jorb, did you do any post processing after recording? I bought a keyboard version Korg ARP Odyssey in 2016 and quickly determined the tone did not resemble any vintage Odyssey I had ever played. The new model almost sounded like software, especially in the midrange. The vintage ones were pitch drifty, the brass very distinct, the ringmod potentially very aggressive and low resonant sounds had a nice pleasnt midrange. Most importantly the vintage compelled one to perform. This new one feels like work to get a lively sound to make music with or even get freaky-deeky. I've about given up on it, but was wondering if you did anything else to the signal. Maybe not all Korg models sound the same.
Just a limiter on the synth, and light compression on the master. Nothing that would radically change your perception of it.
After some more messing around, I think the problem for me is gain staging. Filters II and III have alot of loss in amplitude with resonance up. I'm back to using the XLR out with satisfaction of the tone. The vintage Odyssey has of course more instability and spectral non-linearities, but the ARP clone is still good. Thanks for making this video, it was inspiring!
Scheck it out... Oh schorry, wrong Schannel... Was thinking of Bob and his eating channel
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Even in module form, it seems huge.
It is big, and the module is 86% size
It’s not
When are you planning to get this into the Deepming 12? haha
Probably won't ever happen now... Unfortunately
Would love if this have patch memory
I would love that honestly
It would change the entire synth.
This is coming out as a DIY kit right? I thought I read that some where. Definitely something i would like to do.
Your desktop Rev1 really looks like a FS desktop, or do you have that small hands..?
😭Not particularly small.
Did they make a fs desktop? I think all the modules are the smaller dimension
If you're leaving the country, it would be great if you can get your hands on some good gear there and do some good reviews on it.
Trying to get some things figured out while I'm there, absolutely
@JorbLovesGear if you're a synth junkie like me,then I know you will. LOL. I've been on a shopping spree lately where I've been getting super cheap deals on some really great keyboards. An Access Virus TI2 for $1,700, Roland JDXI with patch cable, keyboard stand, and USB cable for only $325, Roland System 8 for $1,400, and Akai Timbrewolf for $250, and Ensoniq TS12 for $325.
I love the Odyssey. Just wish the module weren’t absolutely enormous
Huhh? The FS keyboard version is 2 x it’s width.
Out of interest what brings you to NZ?
Me and some homies just wanted to be somewhere different, and see somewhere beautiful
I 450 euro cheap used?
I think thats good?
Yeah, it's amazing
and it always will be
Great synth. Playing with just the tuning
and audio mixer
kept me under for days.
I wish the new reissue kit had a white panel like this, the orange and black is very ugly
Disagree
Nice walkthrough, but not a mono synth as you advertise your video. As most synthesizer enthusiast will know this instrument is a two note paraphonic synth and that is quite different from being a mono synth.
That's no ARP Odyssey ... it doesn't have a keyboard.
Ever heard of the Avatar?
You make it sound like the Behringer version doesn't exist. Lame.
Literally I forgot
He's using the Behringer DM right under it. So i doubt it was a conspiracy level omission.
Your comment and accusatory tone is lame.
Behringer boys very sensitive
Cool, yeah, maybe just prepare a little better next time.
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