How to bench test master cylinders for pressure operation BEFORE putting back on!
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2016
- Did you know you can bench test master cylinders for pressure operation BEFORE putting back on the vehicle?
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Thanks heaps for this. I was so lucky to come across it after a few hours wondering why my brakes were not working, even though I could feel air pressure. Turns out I had to prime the master cylinder. Wow, they're rock solid now!
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Thank you so much for this very valuable and easy-to-understand lesson, one of your great points was to block the outlet with a finger to prime the master cylinder (like priming a water pump). I followed your lesson and it saved my day and lots of money as I was ready to buy a new master cylinder. Have a great weekend and keep up the good work well done, Cheers !
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Dude, I am so glad I found this. After dicking around with my brakes for the last couple days, I needed to know the behavior a master cylinder SHOULD have before deciding to rebuild it. Bingo. Mine is no good. Needs a rebuild. Thank you!
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Very helpful, will be doing it to my new one tomorrow and this was great help
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While attempting to bench test the master cylinder on my 2000 Springer, remove the banjo bolt and fluid line, pump up the brake lever, and while covering up the hole, I feel a bit of suction, but when I remove my finger, not a bit of fluid comes out. I installed a new master cylinder kit, but no go.
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Very helpful amigo, gonna put on stainless steel hoses cause I accidently filled dot5 synthetic crap into my gsxr 1000 when it suppose to use dot 4, and I bleed it prior to that, but now people say u can't fully bleed out those rubber hoses of silicone crap, instead get new lines and rebuild or get new cylinders. So i'ma just rebuild even though they don't leak.
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Hello, I am also on the maintenance right now. I'm also changing the brake lever for one made of aluminum. There you have to remove the screws on the lever. That is, unscrew. So you probably then set the sniffing game. Do you know it too? Adjustment of the sniffing play? have read that one must eisntellen the hand brake play and then a half turn further in screwed. How does such a handbrake game look like? and how do you notice when it is the right time? I hope you have been able to gather experience. BMW R850R Bj 2000
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The rubber dust seal obviously just gets crammed back in and that is all i am looking for....at first you said you didnt have to be gentle when you removed it, so it just pulls out right, same to put it back in?
I have a question... nothing to do with brakes. I hope you can help? I have a 2012 rmz 250 fuel injection. my question is . Do you have to calibrate the throttle poisition sensor or is it plug and play
hi my rear MC of my rmz have new seal and all i cant get to get your pressure it just build a llittle and suck back my finger back forth back forth plz help :) ive been on this for 3 week at lost time XD
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so if I dont get any fluid coming out, is it the small hole thats blocked???. I can't get a thin wire through it
Excellent teacher I was able to rebuild and test my master cyinder on my Yamaha Zuma scooter from watching your video I'm sad to say it I tried to get by with just cleaning it and reassembling it but there was junk in the bore I didn't see and it ripped the very end seal on reassembly funny part was it tested ok on the bench so it had to have happened when I put it back on the bike a hour later of bleeding no brakes so pulled it back off and found the bad seal used a bore brush junk gone now waiting for the rebuild kit to get here
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My question is on an 2004 honda foreman front brakes. Have a very mushy brake handle, need to pump several times to build pressure. How do I know if i need to rebuild the master cylinder or replace the 4 cylinders on the wheels? Also when I squeeze the brake I only see the piston side of the wheel cylinders move maybe 1/8". The adjuster side does not move. Thank you for your help and time!!!
On an 2004 its not unlikely that the brake system has never been serviced. With 16 yr old parts, you really need to look at the rubber lines for flexing too. This will cause the "mushy" feeling. I'd love to spend some time and chat with you to best lead you in a logical order. Reach out to me at the number below.
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I didn't think bench bleeding a master cylinder was such a secret, I've always bench bleed any master cylinder before installing it in a car. They have one man operated back bleeders for autos, will they work on a bike?
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Why not screw a bolt in the master cylinder exit and pump it until it builds pressure wouldnt this prove the master cylinder is able to build and hold pressure?
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Thanks for a great video on testing the master.
I’m having an issues rebuilding the VFR’s front brake master cyl... I’m going to do the bench pressure test tomorrow. Sure is a let down when everything else was going together well.
I really do think that the air hole is blocked, and it needs to be cleaned out or drilled out. Not sure what to poke it with for now.
It builds pressure (and suction if covered and released), but no fluid will shoot out. One of the holes must be plugged I guess? Please advise.
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Doing the finger prime (helping it build pressure) has solved the issue. Put it on the bike and pumped it about 25 times and then pressure finally built. Weird. I am glad you have the video out Shane!!!
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I have a rare go kart with mater cylinder issues. It is a go kart that has not been used for a while. We replaced all the fluid but it works for a while and then it looses the pressure and leaks through the front of the cylinder. Any Advice?
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So it shouldn't gravity bleed? Trying to get better brake with disk conversion on a trx300fw
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What if it makes pressure when you push it but doesn't build pressure? after rebuild and watched your previous video
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I think im fighting a weak master it doesnt leak and clutch plates move but im thinking its not enough pressure because its stuck with clutch disengaged entire time. also reverse bled it and has a solid lever action. sometimes when i pull clutch quicly theres a backpressure that comes up in the resivoir as well. any ideas?
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I have a 2004 Yamaha Road Star xv 1700. It has the a break caliper on both sides of the front wheel, and a tea under the front end of the bike. I wanted to change the fluid, so I run new fluid through it, but as I was riding my bike, the front break started locking up on me. I had to release the pressure, and ride it back to my shop without any front breaks. Now For the life of me, I can't get any type of a break back on it!
I've tried everything as far as bleeding it goes. Do you think it is the master cylinder gone bad?
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Just came across your videos when I was rebuilding my master cylinder. When I finished I covered the outlet and pressurised it by pumping air which it seemed to compress ok (quick puff if air when I removed my finger). Surely that's enough to prove it will build pressure? Or must it be tested with fluid?
do it with fluid.
BUT , long as it has good suction to withdraw the pressure from which it gives, then it is good.
Hi. Need a lil help here! I got a 05 650. No brakes so I did all new calipers. Still no brakes. Just replaced master cylinder still no lock. Handle still don't seem to be doing much. Pretty lose goes all the way in! Any ideas what it might be? Thanks
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What is the best way to paint the master cylinder before the rebuild?
Great question. I bet someone has a good video on that better than I could state...but here goes... I used a really good "etching primer" and bake the master cylinder under a heat lamp. Then on assembly, I really wet down and be super careful with the brake fluid.
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i have a 2022 bmw s1000rr and when i poor fluid in it it comes out of the hole dose that mean my mc is bad?
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Do you have to bench bleed the master cylinder on a new one? Try to get my front brake bled after installing a new one on my bike
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I have problem with my master brake. After replacing new piston kit, there is no pressure inside pump. And no air replacing with oil inside pump. What is my problem?
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So what's next to check? I replaced my master cylinder thinking it must be bad but still have no pressure on the paddle and no brake. Tried bleeding for hours and I'm getting such little fluid, no bubbles. This showed my new one is ok but still no brake
Same here
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Is it possible that the slave CLUTCH unit may be corroded, preventing the master CLUTCH unit from building pressure?
(Rebuilt the master clutch cylinder but it will not build pressure.)
Only saw this AFTER replacing rebuilt unit back on the motorcycle!
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I have a question, should those have a vent hole? How do the calipers release themselves? Where does the pressure go?
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great video but I'm lost lol I have 1988 intruder vs750 and its my nephews he asked me to fix it for him so I got it running but when I put it in gear it lunge's forward and shuts off, I check the clutch cylinder and everything looks like it works I get a push at the clutch housing at the bottom but I do notice that the clutch handle I don't really feel any resistance so am I missing something or is there something else I should be looking at? Any help would be appreciated thx
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What's it mean if the fluid barely comes out no pressure and won't hold vacuum? It's a brand new adelin lever and mastercyllinder
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is this a solution for sponge brakes?
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my brakes became stuck after a bit of braking and the lever was solid and could not be pressed. after 15 minutes of cooling down i could continue. after i got home i checked the pistons on the calliper and they were moving freely, i also checked the master cylinder and the brake fluid did not shoot out of it but just dribbled. can anyone telle me what te problem can be?
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My Front Master cylinder lose the pressure in 2 days if i don't use my motorcycle. I have to re pump it more than 30 times then it gets back to normal but bit soft.
What could be the problem?
There are no leakage.
It is axial Master cylinder.
Brake fluid level is fine too
I had a similar problem on my bike these past couple of days, i would bleed the brakes get a nice lever feel and after a day or two my lever feel would be mushy and i had air in the system. mind you i have new brake lines and new fluid along with new pads. ended up being my master cylinder needing a rebuild. which is pretty easy to do and it solved the problem. ebay sells these kits for almost every bike i believe. it should be called something like master cylinder rebuild kit , hope that helps.
Ugh i didn't check the return in the reservoir hole was free. The brakes will not release on the bike! Tiny hole and bad old eyes. LOL Yamaha RX50. Thanks for the vids.
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My piston its stuck won't move back and forward. What's the problem could be?
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So, if the master cylinder won’t build pressure it needs to be rebuilt?
Most likely....
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I have bench tested my master which is operating as you explained but I'm still not able to build pressure. My brake lever has no resistance when pumping it, however fluid does come out from bleeder screw. Would there be an issue down in the caliper area that's causing the failure of pressure not building in the line? I know my master is doing its job. I own a Honda XR650L, all work in it has been done by my mechanic but this has been getting expensive so I bought a manual with the help of UA-cam started doing what I can myself. I have followed step-by-step and running out of options as safety check approaches. What am I doing wrong? Please advise Shane Conley
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And if it doesn't build pressure?
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Replace it.
i think im a master repair mechanics by watching all the youtube tutorial on how to repair motorcycle the problem is how can i applied it to get a job with no diploma
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Oh man I couldn't manage that without gloves, brake fluid is gross
wears eye wear for hand work, but doesnt wear gloves when skin is exposed to brake fluid :o
Brake fluid is highly corrosive.. Your hands thank you, wear gloves next time
but how do you know it will keep pressure?