Under federal law in the USA, it is illegal to sell a product at a discounted price if the “original price was not offered to the public on a regular basis for a reasonably sustained period of time”. So yes, it is illegal and they'll never be held accountable because no business EVER is sadly.
Fallout 76 actually did the same thing and got class action handed to them, so they removed it. Could happen to suicide squad, too, but I doubt anyone cares enough about this game to make such an effort.
Why settle for _most_ of the USA’s annual GDP in profit when there’s a chance to claim _all_ of it? They could be swimming in Scrooge McDuck’s golden treasure vault and still want more.
Rocksteady Studio is dead. Why you ask?!! "At the end of 2022, co-founders Jamie Walker and Sefton Hill left Rocksteady after more than 18 years at the company and during the development of Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League. They formed a new company called Hundred Stars Studios in January 2024 that will consist of “only 100 industry veterans and emerging talents.” - Wikipedia They knew what they had to leave to save their souls.
They probably knew what they were being forced to make and were like no how about we just leave then? We saw the same thing happen with Overwatch 2, all the people who were still left from the original Overwatch development team all left during the development of Overwatch 2, probably around the time Blizzard made the decision internally to cancel the PvE campaign mode Bet the success of Helldivers 2 making them seriously regret that lol! Granted I doubt the execs at Blizzard/Activision even understand gaming enough to have such a regret
"We bungled our launch, so in order to remain financially viable, we now have to nickel and dime the fans who stuck with us." Getting so sick of this live service sticking point.
This joker "DLC" is proof we've reached a point where game devs don't even try hide the pay-to-win mechanics anymore. The "reset you to zero to grind back to lvl 35 or pay 10 bucks" couldn't be more on the nose if it tried.
Yeah it's shameful as fuck. Imagine if Tarkov or Marauders offered a micro transaction to keep all of your gear when the wipe happens, that'd be fuckin insane.
Remember when the Arkham series concluded and we all were looking forward to Rocksteady doing a Superman game because that seemed like their obvious next step...
They wanted to do either Superman or Batman Beyond but WB forced them, a single player gaming studio, to make a online multiplayer live service game. It had zero chance from the start, apparently the WB was the only ones that didn't know this.
A Superman game is pretty much impossible, how can you develop flight mechanics in a open world city and, on top of that, a sense of danger towards a godlike character? The Superman rumors never convinced me tbh. I either expected more Batman, maybe "Arkham Beyond" featuring high tech Batman... maybe another DC character based on gadgets like Green Arrow... but here we are
15 minutes per mission, 1520 missions to complete the pass. 60 mins per hour. 380 hours to complete the pass. 15.6 *DAYS* of continuous gameplay. 3 missions in practical terms. 5.2 days spent on each mission.
This means you need about 16 missions per day, meaning you need to devote 4 hours of your life every day for over three months just to unlock all the recolors without giving them more money.
And I'm sure the season is something like 2-3 months long, so you best get to grinding. Don't wanna miss this before the next season rolls around and you'll have to start all over.
Remember when the developers said that they knew people hated spending several hours a day grinding a game just to get one or two things or miss out completely because people have lives outside of gaming? And how they said this game wasn't gonna be like that? Turns out that was bullshit.
Especially since we never got to see all of the footage of his Joker that David Ayer had to CUT out of the movie, back when the 1st Suicide Squad was supposed to be rated R. Before the WB execs saw the footage & it "scared the sh*t out of them" (the director's words) and they forced him to completely change up the whole tone of the film, and make it PG13 instead. 🤦🏻♀️😩 I don't think people realize just how BADLY WB screwed that 1st SS movie up. All of the blame went on Jared Leto or on the director... but the REAL villain of the DCEU was WB all along trust me...
Rushing to Joker is such a blatant cash grab. It’s stupid, too. Joker isn’t a mainstay member of the Suicide Squad, because Amanda Waller would never put Joker in a position to get years taken off his sentence. Killer Frost would’ve been a cool addition instead
Yeah Waller's no idiot, no way she'd be stupid enough to think she could keep the joker under control, much less prevent him from mass-murder, he is way smarter and more capable a planner than people realise.
honestly considering what supposedly is season 2 and season 3's releases, we should not be excited for reportedly Deathstroke either. I really don't know what abomination they are going to conjure up out of Slade.
That would mean more mechanics to build over this barely serviceable foundation of a Suicide Squad game. If ice was involved, we'd get Captain Cold instead of Killer Frost, because his method of freezing is from a gun. At this point... NEW Rocksteady is picking their characters since they gotta fit with the guns gear mechanics (Borderlands, Destiny... and Anthem): *Character has to shoot gun. *Be quirky. *Be a popular character from a DC comics movie/show/game. *And be mostly from the Batman mythos.
@@mschmitt225 Ah, now I remember... (Batman mythos focused, I forgot) But wouldn't it be MRS Freeze, from an alternate universe angle that Suicide Squad KTJL would pull?
It is actually illegal to start a "discount sale" on something the first day it's released. I can't remember exactly what it was but a couple years ago there was another company that got in trouble legally for doing the same exact thing and had to pay up money from a lawsuit. But I'm sure Rocksteady has some sort of way around it. EDIT: I just saw Luke Stephens' video on this, it was Fallout 76 that did the whole fake discount thing and Bethesda got into some legal trouble. I think rocksteady is gonna have some bad times ahead of they don't fix that
I almost did just because it was ROCKSTEADY but a I got a weird sense in the pit of my stomach on checkout, I held off until reviews. I learned my lesson after Gotham knights.
This is NOT the Arkhamverse. Them saying that is like a slap in the face. The way Harley just completely and utterly dismisses the joker even though she’s supposed to be OBSESSED with him, even when he treats her like shit. Even way after he died she tried to destroy Batman for that very reason and would never stop. On top of all of this, $10 DOLLARS to play as joker for a game that’s already $70+ is crazy! 10$ for a single character and nothing new is nuts.
When they shut the game down sooner rather than later, I'll bet anything they completely remove this from Arkham continuity. All mentions of relation will be removed everywhere. They will call it another, splinter continuity. They actually do that with comic books, so don't be surprised.
Remember in Arkham Knight, when Harley literally freaked out when all the sick jokers were killed & then she was all over Henry Adam’s the last Joker. She would of done ANYTHING for a new joker & then one turns up and she’s like nah i’m good
Just like deadshot they're adapting akrhamverse characters to fit the mainstream versions of them, and for Harley especially this makes no sense at all
Remember in Arkham city when Harley flips towards Batman and you instantly KO her with one single move because shes just a goofy ass ex psychiatrist with absolutely no skill or value who is an obsessed victim of the joker? Clearly neither do the goofs who made this pile of feces.
This is the best example of the very worst of the gaming industry. Low effort, lazy, empty content hidden behind level grinds to convince 15 year olds to purchase dlc instead.
In Arkham Knight, there was the whole plot of the "Joker Infection", the mutated blood that slowly turned people into copies of the Joker (in Arkham City, the Joker distributed his blood to multiple blood banks and hospitals), they could have brought him back as in "though Batman gave us the cure, this one couldn't be treated in time because they went into hiding or Brainiac invaded before we could treat him so he went full Joker", but nope, they went for the lazy "it's Joker, but from another dimension"
@@sciencefantastic I can't recall which comic it was in, I think it was a SpiderMan comic, where there was a "virtual reality grenade" that essentially made holograms. It was impressively ridiculous and hilarious as well, good times.
Most of these staged "dev interviews" for AAA games have been like this since the late 2000s,lotsa buzzwords that gets the unassuming consumer who doeent keep up with the industry and the gullible players that easily fall for this It keeps on happening and these manufactured interviews gets cringier every time
I don't think there's any active effort to do so, but I do think all this stuff just kills their passion for making the game. No way most devs are going to go in super jazzed and ready to put their best effort into designing an online marketplace with a game attached
What they are doing is ILLEGAL… it is called deceptive pricing. They cannot increase the price of the emote from the original price to only then reduce the amount to show the public that “it’s on sale” when in fact there is no price change from the original amount. I’m shocked. Never wouldve thought that the company that made some of my favorite games would do something like this. This is clearly deceptive pricing/false advertising.
Bethesda also pulled this bs with Fallout 76. Any time a game company goes into the "live service" scene, expect shady practices. It's a sad time we're living in 😮💨
What they are doing isn't illegal. Doesn't mean it isn't a scummy move especially when the game has been poorly received. People barely want to play the game why would they want to buy the joker? Lol
@@afterhours2103Conroy was willing to join I mean he apparently likes to act as a evil batman and he even praises rocksteady and due to this he is willing to participate in any dc related stuff that rocksteady is creating. Rocksteady and Conroy always had a great relationship but unfortunately rocksteady has created a extremely flawed and mixed game which Kevin cannot possibly have predicted.
@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 did conroy even care about Batman anymore? He had to have known about this game being canon. Conroy probably got sick of the character and wanted to kill him off just like Harrison Ford wanted to kill off Han Solo. Hey, but that's just speculation..... This game, in my universe, is ultimately dismissed from being canon. Batman Origins is more canonically received than SSKTJL.
NO!!!!!! Kevin conroy loved Batman. It was his main role that he related to with hiding behind a mask and being a symbol of hope to others. So no, he definitely didn’t want Batman to go out this away it goes completely against what he loves about Batman. It’s more likely given the leaks, Kevin knew more about how the “story” was Going to go in future seasons. Also again he mostly likely felt entitled to return as Arkham Batman. They practically needed him because he was Arkham Batman. Also because it gave him the opportunity to basically be evil Batman which isn’t something he has gotten before.
@@boanoah6362 Techniclaly Brainiac is green, but yeah it’s not a good look. Like, if he *has* to be a Green Lantern clone, why not summon those Coluan turrets like you find all around the map instead of just summoning the same miniguns regular Green Lantern did? Why not have him summon, like, big tentacles or something instead of missiles? If I had to no-prize it… maybe he’s gathering data? Maybe he wants to see where the regular League went wrong, so he repeats their fights and takes note on what they do, what kind of tools the Squad have at their disposal, who’s helping them, etc., so he can eventually perfect a strategy to take them out for good in case another anomaly like the Squad ever shows up? But he’s shown all he has to do is freeze them and then sicc the Terminauts on them, and there’s no way in heck he doesn’t know they’re operating out of the Hall of Justice. He’s so dumb, “12th level intellect” my butt.
It's even worse than that... Why Green Lantern at all? He has nothing to do with the Joker! Why isn't Batman the boss for Joker?! What the hell has happened to Rocksteady!?
@@isushi Even better than that. Next characters (according to stuff I've seen) are Victoria Fries (Mrs Freeze), Zoe Lawton (Lawless), and Deathstroke. All Batman villains or at least alt versions of normal Batman villains. Rumors say Katana and Killer Croc might come after that but even then Croc would most likely just be King Shark but slightly different in terms of playstyle. Rocksteady screwed this game up in an honestly spectacular fashion.
Quote from dev: "We wanted the joker to be insecure, to reflect on why he does what he does". Didn't even realize was writing the joker, and not her auto biography
the joker is historical a very self reflective and guilt ridden character 😂 guys he’s a psychopath with no value for human life or the capability to feel remorse
What?...The Joker is litterally the walking embodiment of chaos, destruction and insanity. He cares so little about human life. He's not supposed to care about why he does what he does. He just wants to drive people as mad as him to the point that if someone gives in to the thought of killing him and manages to, he's essentially passed the torch onto whoever gives in to his madness. The Injustice universe is litterally proof of this. If he IS reflecting on anything, it's for the sake of mocking others and comedically laughing at them.
Remember 15 or so years ago where when you purchase a game, you ACTUALLY get the game? No season passes, no battle passes, no premium currency, no "surprise mechanics" (aka loot boxes), no grinding for 40 hours just to play as Darth Vader in a Star Wars game, no $18 for blue, no strings attached, just purchase a game and you can enjoy it and unlock everything the game has to offer FOR FREE..... good old days😔
So glad I built a pc and can go back and enjoy real games. I'll be getting these crap games for free if I ever want to try them in the future 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
I know you can get bonus XP, but estimating even at 10 minutes per mission with 50xp per mission you’re looking at 250+ hours to max. With 20% bonus xp it’s still 200+ hours…
Well then what “content” is coming in the second Episode of the Season? I mean, if Rocksteady is splitting these post-launch Seasons into two “Episodes” each, then shouldn’t that mean that only about 50% of the Season’s “content” has been released? Otherwise, what’s the point of splitting up the Seasons in the first place? Is it just an excuse to have two Brainiacs per Season? Are ALL these Seasons just gonna have one playable character you have to grind to unlock, some more generic weapons and skills, some dumb and repetitive costumes, two lazy Brainiac boss fights, a boring new location to jump around in, some more annoying dialogue, one cutscene (or maybe two if you’re lucky), and no new story missions or any new variety in enemy and level types? I can’t believe Rocksteady of all companies is setting a new low for what the bare minimum should be for seasonal expansions.
So the new Strongholds were just the old ones with a shitty face lift? Holy fucking shit, this might just be a new low for scummy business practices in Video Games. I never thought I would look at Avengers with fonder memories. Y I K E S
Just flipping visual assets for the strongholds isn't enough to justify this shit. Do they really expect people to be tied over for months with nothing new added to the game, besides Jonkler?
@@samzilla567 I'm honestly baffled. This is honestly worse than any bad game launch. I thought the performance for Starfield and Dragons Dogma 2 was bad but this takes the cake.
Guys, y'all are getting it wrong, WB just wanted us to have the genuine joker experience by going mentally insane while getting him, it's not greed, it's a immersion feature
The practice of having an item say it costs 100 but it’s 50% so it’s 50 when we all know that’s just the actual price, meant to trick people into believing it’s a deal, should be illegal.
That some FO76 shit right there i remember bathesta do Christmas emote at 2400 but say it 50% off so it 1200 Then after much complain they changed it to 1200 (and yea it illegal in some country but not US im pretty sure)
All the major clothing stores in the US (Kohl's, Sears, JC Penney, etc.) got sued for that, so it IS illegal. Unfortunately, this country turns a blind eye to these practices in the entertainment/video game industry.
How are you gonna prove a company doesnt think their product should be 100 base price? Launch sales happen. If they never raise the price then yeah you could maybe get that for false advertising. That being said it didnt seem like these 17 dollar emotes had any "limited time sale" notice on them. regardless dumb people should smarten up and stop buying dogshit.
> Sets up stream > Sees the requirements they’re asking for in order to play the character and missions they advertised as free > *AR YUH - ARYAOUDDYAMYND???!!!!!* > Elaborates in great detail > Ends stream Common Joe W. 😂
Fuck that, this is why I never like nor play live service game like this. Anthem, Redfall, Cyberpunk, and Marvek Avenger are the prime example of how downright pathetic the current gaming industry had become. And remember the time where a certain man said that Multiplayer is the future and not single player only to be proven wrong again and again? Yeah, good times where even some buy that BS. I dont know why but I had a feeling that the next live service game will show us something much worse.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71Nah. I've been playing a lot of live service games. Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star rail, Warframe, Elder Scrolls: online and so on. If any of them tossed in a battlepass this bad, I'd nope out immediately.
Wait... they don't REALLY reset your level to 0, do they? Why the fuck would they do that? You bust your ass, and your level gets reset each season? THE FUCK?
They dont reset you level to 0. the levels you earned playing season 0 or "Finite Levels" are still there and playable while still having a new set of levels and masteries attached to the season 1 "Fear". Ive seen people complain about previous build not working with the current season but i think its a fun mechanic with the "Meta Busters" which stop you from using items and builds that previously worked and force you to try out new build with the new items that the season introduced (though i think a stash would be helpful as items are becoming cumbersome). This is only Episode 1 of Season 1 with 3 more Episodes coming with new characters and new items presumably coming as well.
"Season 1 of Diablo was absolute shit, but this is worse! We didn't even get an apology!" Of course you didn't, this is WB we're talking about. All you got was "Screw you, give us $10."
They did less than the bare minimum. Also Harley having next to no dialogue is so baffling. Harley had a whole DLC post Joker about her mourning him lol.
No, no, but you see, Harley had a bunch of offscreen character development between games that means you couldn't write any actually intersting interactions with a character who was basically the core drive of her story. Some people might say that is an incredibly uncreative and boring way to look characters, but according to the defends that's just an example of how good the writing is!
You know the more I see this the more I realize that old kids games like wacky races, Disney infinity and crash bandicoot are more creative then this game. Ps the Lego game is more faithful to the source material then this.
Hell we don't have to go that back, Fortnite's Seasons, as much as i'm not a fan of the genre, are and have been pretty damn solid always brining in new content, weapons, skins, new stuff to do, new maps etc. Roblox has also been killing it for a while too. I think the reason why games aimed more at younger kids have so much quality content that comes out on a consistent base is because kids generally have low attention spans and need to be stimulated way more than adults or even teenagers need to be. The devs making games aimed at this young crowd are very aware of this and they know that in order to maintain a playerbase they need to pump out content not just consistently but that content needs to be quality too. Kids are not adults, the concept of a sunk cost fallacy where one plays a thing they hate because they bought it already does not exist in a child's brain . If a kid doesn't liike something they throw it away immediately
Hogwarts Legacy: single player story driven game - best selling game of 2023. Suicide Squad: multiplayer live service looter shooter - launch disaster. WB: hmm looking at these 2 games it obvious the fans want more live service games…..yes, yes that’s the key to success 🤪🤑🥴
you forgotten to mention that the sales mostly gave Hogwarts a boost because we havent had a harry potter game since... what, the Deathly Hallow movie games? I've played Hogwarts and i couldnt get past 5 hours because i was so bored out of my mind when playing it
@@Cruddy129I don’t finish most games I buy. I am not a harry potter fan as well. I did finish that game though. I get bored real quick in video games and never finish them
The problem is they look at other live service games that are doing well and think Oh this shit is what people want, let's make that. But also don't even bother looking at why those are doing well, and instead overcharge, overmonetise and under deliver on content
Love how the color Blue has become a household meme for Angryjoe like "he's a man not a god", "Godzilla is aproaching the generator" or "wanna play zombie games".
This is just pathetic. This is why I don't play big AAA live service games anymore, because the industry doesn't respect their players anymore. It's always all about chasing those profit margins and infinite growth, and that is what's ruining the whole industry. On the other hand though, because of games like these I get to touch grass more and spend time on other hobbies.
If you need for an industry to go down on quality in order to touch grass and enjoy other activities you lack discipline or/and you are weak. Get your shit together, my dude
If you ever hear the words "they even screwed up joker", understand there is nothing to salvage. Either reboot or move on. Like it should be impossible to make anything boring with joker in it.
Helldiver 2 simply does everything better then this, its cheaper, has more content, is more fun, its "shop" is better, cheaper and the game gets more content frequently, for free.
Dude! I bought HD2 for 40 eurs and i did not have to spend anything else on it. I have everything unlocked with playing around 2 hours per day since launch and have 1000 supercredits to spare when they drop the new stuf. Aaaand still play it because it is fun.
Ya, i really hope he review Helldiver 2, and give every reason why indie games are rising and AAA or AAAA games are getting worst these days. I hope get review indie games as well, not only AAA games.
@@johnshepard8556 No it doesn't. Stop supporting the stupid crap and it will force change. Keep supporting the garbage and gamers will keep getting garbage.
Exactly. I find it hard to blame the studios anymore. They wouldn’t be making this shit if yall stopped buying it. It was plain as day from the moment this game was shown that it would be terrible. Same thing with Anthem. People are bad at judging if games will be good or not.
@@joetron333I've been making comments like this on every related video on YT for the last 8 years and rarely do I ever get more than 10 likes. We are the minority
@@joetron333I remember my friends showing me the gameplay reveal for anthem and I remember saying to myself " this looks good , in fact it's too good? " well look how it turned out
@@aaronbood1999 *ARKHAM* 🦇for life. And our respects to Kevin Conroy and the TRUE original dev team at Rocksteady who made the series THE BEST and a big part of our gaming years.
Once again, shout outs to Redfall for successfully lowering the bar for cutscenes in full price games. "Wait, we dont ACTUALLY have to animate these?... seriously? Alright push it out" *edit: I'm very aware that games use cheap cutscenes. Many games will have big cinematics and then budgeted sections inbetween like Bayonetta. I'm referring to when a game ONLY has stills/lazy motion comics for big scenes.
i mean the Infamous games did not have full animated cutscenes, but yeah that was before games costed $70!!!!!!! FOR NO REASON BECAUSE AAA GAMES ARE STILL THE SAME IF NOT WORSE!!!!!
@@heroicgangster9981 And also Infamous used those comic book cutscenes for actual style and effect, they were animated pretty well as far as the motion comic cutscene goes. AND came out literally 15 years ago. The ps3/360 gen was only a few years in at that point, (which is funny because that's closer to the normal console cycle but 7th gen took eons to finish lol) Try 94$ in Canadian dollars lol. Shits fucked
How about Persona 3 Reload, a remake from a PS2 game who remains solid, but it's obviously double A... $70. Literally spliced up on purpose, P3 already had a "definitive version" in the PS2, Atlus will sell that content at $25, then most likely they will include the Portable content as DLC, so for the entire PS2 experience in the mid 2020s, you will have to pay over $100. And the fans dares to defend this game because it has "a lot of content", over 60 hours, etc.. This literally revolts me, how can you define value by taking time as the common denominator? Look at this Suicide Squad, also lots of content, you have to grind for dozens of hours, that makes it more valuable if compared to shorter games like Inside? This industry is walking a destructive path, most likely this PS5 generation will be my last
being more of a grindfest than warframe is actually genuinely impressive, you can grind 10+ years of warframe content in less time than it would take you to finish the battlepass on S.Q.
I'm just heartbroken. I really wanted this game to be good. I really wanted a Superman game. A Flash game. A Green Lantern game. And I'm worried for the Wonder Woman game. This game probably discouraged hyping up any future games from WB and DC, further lessening the odds of the games I hope for from happening.
WB ruined 3 games in a row for me. Gotham Knights, Mortal Kombat, and now this. They’ve seriously lost all trust, and WB used to be a company I held tons of respect/value for. I can now say it’s one of the very few corporations I truly hate
@cmendoza244 mortal kombat 1. The newest one is absolute garbage compared to the previous games. And especially compared to mk9 which had so much more content and fun factor to years ago. The new mk1 is absolutely terrible boring trash
@@angelganon8213 dude. The story is so bad. By chapter 4 the tournament is over. The stages have 00000 interactivity and are so stagnant it's retarded how far back we stepped in game dev...
@paulallen2680 overpriced microtransactions, nickel and diming for announcer voices and fatalities, Boring cameo gameplay that limits the combos and stuff you can do. Grindy unlocks that take forever Boring rewards and trophies that are locked behind what they call invasions which is just you running through a lot of Boring uninteresting areas to fight to hope to unlock stuff. A lot of the replay for trophies and rewards are repetitive like this suicide squad game. Very very grindy progress making you level your fighters and cameos and it takes forever to do. Overall the story of the game is interesting but the main gameplay is just not fun and very limited compared to previous games. You have to level up your characters to get a second fatality and brutalities unlocked and it takes a long time unless you're dedicated. There's a reason lots of people stopped playing and no one is talking about it anymore
Season 0 - Bane gear set around craze Season 1 - modifier that makes craze not work on enemies What a shitty was to try and get people to grind the new gear, each season ur builds gonna be instantly redundant
Also it makes no sense canonically cant they just dip there bullets in poision on any gun or just do what militarys can do(it illegal under international law) by making it an poision injecting bullet.
That's exactly what I hate about most live service games especially star trek online, diablo, call of duty, heck even sea of thieves with just 4 weapons rolls out buffs and nerfs
@@ishitrealbad3039 exactly what you allways do in warframe. Grind your ass off for mods, weapons, frames parts, levels, reputation on tons of fractions... List goes on. That IS grind.
I love how they said the villains would be free, and there'd be no gameplay affecting microtransactions, then they immediately let you pay to get Joker instantly
This is unbelievable!! First they disrespected Kevin Conroy's Batman, and now the joker!! Clearly the people who made the Arkham series left, because they would never create a game like this. They would never disrespect and ruin the franchise they created. This really hurts me since I grew up with the games. Such a beloved franchise, such a beloved company, now in ruins because of greed and trend. Warner brothers to me is becoming the Hollywood "Blizzard"
@@JCoops14 They left around 2 years ago to found a new studio of around 100 Devs. Hopefully whatever they end up releasing is better than this. I believe the new studio is called Hundred Stars games
Its canon and the joker from arkham is not the same as this joker, this is a joker from an alternate timeline where everyone else in his timeline has been killed. So yes, it is not the same joker, but it is canon.
It's a multiverse, anything goes. Characters can live or die, the villain can destroy the universe, the good guys can save the universe, etc.. nothing matters
It's simple, Joe. The WB Executives probably told Rocksteady to do this, because they already promised one year of seasons. Four new characters, guaranteed to come within a year of launch. They already know they aren't gonna make their money back, so they're having Rocksteady do the absolute minimum to fulfill that promise before they shut it down. Then Rocksteady can't make a bunch of crappy F2P Mobile games based off the Arkham properties! "Sorry, Batman is out of Energy! If you pay 1000 DC Gold Coins, you can refresh his Energy, and escape the Deathtrap!"
@@karimdavis7065WB is going into the ground. It's a death spiral. They're making budget cuts everywhere and trying to sell IP's everywhere. WB is already shutting down RoosterTeeth and they're trying to sell all of RT's IPs (RWBY, RvB, Gen:lock, Camp Camp, etc.)
With digital storefronts becoming the norm, there's absolutely no reason at all to pre-order any game. It worked back in the day when game availability was dependent on a retailer's stock. Now it's completely pointless for the consumer and only serves to reward lazy, corrupt game companies.
I have the screenshot of a reddit post on there subreddit with the typical "i am enjoying the new season" and someone in the comments saying "people cant just enjoy games anymore"... Me and my friends share the screenshot back and forth because its stupidly hillarious
@@tavernadodevilhunter6732 even if he is completing one level in a minute, he will not be able to do so, since it takes two missions to reach one level
It's gotten worse, the player peak number was at 151. I believe once those numbers goes below 100, they'll have another meeting most definitely to decide to shut down the servers. This game won't even last another season let alone a year
we need a collective lawsuit. Every critic, every gamer, all 30k people, file a lawsuit against WB and Rocksteady. crowdfund it. sh*t like this should not be allowed to exist.
@@stinkfinga4918 CDPR got a lawsuit by their own investors and a government investigation when they put out Cyberpunk. You don't need to be a shareholder. You bought the product, therefore you are a paying customer.
@nikt12 the government investigation was brought on by shareholders, the investors, the people who actually lost money on lies. If you're dumb enough to buy it you don't get anything. Cyberpunk was largely unplayable on release. The only thing wrong with SS is its a lazy cash grab. That's not illegal. It's like buying the big candy bar only to find it's just two smaller ones in the wrapper. Again, if you're dumb enough to buy it, you get nothing. Instead, just focus on keeping the heat on companies and actually researching products before purchase. You can boycott, you can call out groups like Sweet Baby or practices like DEI, but you got nothing to sue them for as a consumer.
Might I add that, from a lore perspective, this whole power-copying thing the various Brainiacs use is NOT a thing Brainiac has done in any comic, animated show or video game? Copying the JL is Amazo’s schtick, not Brainiac’s. Granted, Rocksteady didn’t seem interested in following their own lore, so why would they care about anyone else’s? EDIT: It also occurs to me that it makes no sense for Brainiac, a supposed super-genius, to continue to use a losing strategy against the Suicide Squad.
I refuse to believe this game took 8 years to develop
Remember, they scrapped a Superman game to catch trends that died years ago
I hope Rocksteady shuts down
@@karimdavis7065those trends were dead before they even started development 😂
Based off what is here, im willing to bet it was an anthem, and the development was scrapped and restarted multiple times.
they probably took vacations for 5 or 6 years between the first and last year of development , i dont see otherwise
just like skull and bones took 10 plus years lol
Under federal law in the USA, it is illegal to sell a product at a discounted price if the “original price was not offered to the public on a regular basis for a reasonably sustained period of time”. So yes, it is illegal and they'll never be held accountable because no business EVER is sadly.
Fallout 76 actually did the same thing and got class action handed to them, so they removed it. Could happen to suicide squad, too, but I doubt anyone cares enough about this game to make such an effort.
No time, biden is busy suing trump
I believe that
@@pupis35789Ya, I don't think it'll happen with such a dead game but it'd be nice.
Capitalism at its finest.
And WB wants to double down on live service games after this flop, I guess Hogwarts Legacy’s huge financial success isn’t good enough.
WB should sell DC
Why settle for _most_ of the USA’s annual GDP in profit when there’s a chance to claim _all_ of it?
They could be swimming in Scrooge McDuck’s golden treasure vault and still want more.
They know that HL only sold due to the liscence
@@TheBlueArmageddonyou think they gonna live service the next one?😢
Greed is blinding
Rocksteady Studio is dead. Why you ask?!!
"At the end of 2022, co-founders Jamie Walker and Sefton Hill left Rocksteady after more than 18 years at the company and during the development of Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League. They formed a new company called Hundred Stars Studios in January 2024 that will consist of “only 100 industry veterans and emerging talents.” - Wikipedia
They knew what they had to leave to save their souls.
This how it happens. This is how the Arkham universe dies.
Interesting didn't know that 👀😒😁
Why didn't Anguh Josh cover this, is he stupid?
They probably knew what they were being forced to make and were like no how about we just leave then?
We saw the same thing happen with Overwatch 2, all the people who were still left from the original Overwatch development team all left during the development of Overwatch 2, probably around the time Blizzard made the decision internally to cancel the PvE campaign mode
Bet the success of Helldivers 2 making them seriously regret that lol! Granted I doubt the execs at Blizzard/Activision even understand gaming enough to have such a regret
Real! 💯 Good thing they left cus boie this is terrible stuff. 😂
it's a sad state of affairs for live service when Marvel's Avengers was spoiling players by comparison..
Exactly my thoughts...
Literally replaying avengers it's unironically amazing now , everythings unlocked and the story is actually pretty fun love it fuck suicide squad
@@thegnomegang6825 agreed, the story is pretty good and it’s nice to have access to all the suits
The Avengers game could’ve been better if it was singleplayer and didn’t have gear. The story was alright.
@@_Cetarial agreed but hey at least it makes me wanna stay up and play it till 4 am haven't had a game so that in a bit
"We bungled our launch, so in order to remain financially viable, we now have to nickel and dime the fans who stuck with us." Getting so sick of this live service sticking point.
Yeah it really sucks. I just want to play a good game with friends
Cough cough Payday 3 Cough cough
You're "getting" sick of this? I've BEEN sick of this live service crap in games for seven years at least.
People dumb enough to play this game deserve to be ripped off...
Helldivers welcomes you with open arms
This joker "DLC" is proof we've reached a point where game devs don't even try hide the pay-to-win mechanics anymore. The "reset you to zero to grind back to lvl 35 or pay 10 bucks" couldn't be more on the nose if it tried.
you could introduce a casino machine into the game to really hammer the point
Yeah it's shameful as fuck. Imagine if Tarkov or Marauders offered a micro transaction to keep all of your gear when the wipe happens, that'd be fuckin insane.
And.... people still paid. Don't forget that part.
I choose to grind and unlock him (Old fashion way and no buying him)
Fortnites been doing it for years. But people keep buying the shit.
Meanwhile I’m just sitting here playing Lego Batman 2.
King mindset
W, better game by miles
im playing Lego Batman 3 now doing a %100 playthrough haha, a BILLION times better that Sushi squad game.
@@solidvault3698Stupid Squad*
meanwhile me playing actual masterpieces that are divinity original sin games
Remember when the Arkham series concluded and we all were looking forward to Rocksteady doing a Superman game because that seemed like their obvious next step...
They wanted to do either Superman or Batman Beyond but WB forced them, a single player gaming studio, to make a online multiplayer live service game.
It had zero chance from the start, apparently the WB was the only ones that didn't know this.
@cryhwks and most if not all main talent and founders of Rocksteady left/jumped ship hence this raging dumpster fire of dogshit
It's insane that too this day nobody ever made a (good) Superman game.
A Superman game is pretty much impossible, how can you develop flight mechanics in a open world city and, on top of that, a sense of danger towards a godlike character? The Superman rumors never convinced me tbh. I either expected more Batman, maybe "Arkham Beyond" featuring high tech Batman... maybe another DC character based on gadgets like Green Arrow... but here we are
Pepperidge farm remembers!
And so do I!
A Justice league game is the best hope they have now!😡
15 minutes per mission, 1520 missions to complete the pass. 60 mins per hour. 380 hours to complete the pass. 15.6 *DAYS* of continuous gameplay. 3 missions in practical terms. 5.2 days spent on each mission.
This means you need about 16 missions per day, meaning you need to devote 4 hours of your life every day for over three months just to unlock all the recolors without giving them more money.
Disgusting practice 🤮
WB: We've given you SO MUCH content haven't we?
And I'm sure the season is something like 2-3 months long, so you best get to grinding. Don't wanna miss this before the next season rolls around and you'll have to start all over.
Remember when the developers said that they knew people hated spending several hours a day grinding a game just to get one or two things or miss out completely because people have lives outside of gaming? And how they said this game wasn't gonna be like that? Turns out that was bullshit.
Jared Leto sent flowers to WB after this one. No one is going to say he's the worst Joker anymore XD
Especially since we never got to see all of the footage of his Joker that David Ayer had to CUT out of the movie, back when the 1st Suicide Squad was supposed to be rated R.
Before the WB execs saw the footage & it "scared the sh*t out of them" (the director's words) and they forced him to completely change up the whole tone of the film, and make it PG13 instead. 🤦🏻♀️😩 I don't think people realize just how BADLY WB screwed that 1st SS movie up. All of the blame went on Jared Leto or on the director... but the REAL villain of the DCEU was WB all along trust me...
Good one
I shit you not, this joker is the same voice actor who voiced the boss baby in the series back in business.
@@pchtommy1268 LMFAOOO
@@KabbalahSherry pg13 is killing a lot of movies.
Rushing to Joker is such a blatant cash grab. It’s stupid, too. Joker isn’t a mainstay member of the Suicide Squad, because Amanda Waller would never put Joker in a position to get years taken off his sentence. Killer Frost would’ve been a cool addition instead
Yeah Waller's no idiot, no way she'd be stupid enough to think she could keep the joker under control, much less prevent him from mass-murder, he is way smarter and more capable a planner than people realise.
honestly considering what supposedly is season 2 and season 3's releases, we should not be excited for reportedly Deathstroke either. I really don't know what abomination they are going to conjure up out of Slade.
That would mean more mechanics to build over this barely serviceable foundation of a Suicide Squad game.
If ice was involved, we'd get Captain Cold instead of Killer Frost, because his method of freezing is from a gun.
At this point... NEW Rocksteady is picking their characters since they gotta fit with the guns gear mechanics (Borderlands, Destiny... and Anthem):
*Character has to shoot gun.
*Be quirky.
*Be a popular character from a DC comics movie/show/game.
*And be mostly from the Batman mythos.
@@battlion507 Mr Freeze is more popular than Captain Cold and also uses a gun. So they’d likely pick him
@@mschmitt225 Ah, now I remember...
(Batman mythos focused, I forgot)
But wouldn't it be MRS Freeze, from an alternate universe angle that Suicide Squad KTJL would pull?
OJ doesn't get frames per second, he gets seconds per frame😂
He gets 60 frames per minute
It’s $10 a frame
OJ has the mutant ability to break and freeze bad games
WB said "let's milk this turd. We ain't getting season 2 anyway"
Also WB: Build a live service game and they will come...
I don't know. Velma S2 got greenlighted.
@@benjaminmacpherson1336yeah it took months of wine moms thinking it was funny for that to happen
@@benjaminmacpherson1336Velma was good. One of the better shows over the past few years.
@@gfys756 are you high on drugs???
Thats not Joker, thats Melvin, Brother of the Joker
We don't talk about Melvin!
He's the Jonkler
The Giggler
Didn't know Joker had siblings.🤨
@@BlazingOwnagerDon't put disrespect on the Jonkler's name, this is the Jiggler.
It is actually illegal to start a "discount sale" on something the first day it's released. I can't remember exactly what it was but a couple years ago there was another company that got in trouble legally for doing the same exact thing and had to pay up money from a lawsuit. But I'm sure Rocksteady has some sort of way around it. EDIT: I just saw Luke Stephens' video on this, it was Fallout 76 that did the whole fake discount thing and Bethesda got into some legal trouble. I think rocksteady is gonna have some bad times ahead of they don't fix that
Can't believe people actually paid $69.99 to $100.00 for this game.
I almost did just because it was ROCKSTEADY but a I got a weird sense in the pit of my stomach on checkout, I held off until reviews. I learned my lesson after Gotham knights.
@@ZedQueindeed
😢
I almost preordered because I figured it was gonna be a single player story or at least a coop story game. Once I heard live service I was out
Rented on GameFly lol and platinumed got my money worth
Charging anything over a dollar for this game is something The Joker would do.
Hes not about the money, just about the "message"
it should actually be charged over 70 bucks just because how much they give you
At least Joker would make that funny. This just torture and boredom rolled into one.
"And I thought my jokes were bad"
This is the type of game the player should be paid for playing.
This is NOT the Arkhamverse. Them saying that is like a slap in the face. The way Harley just completely and utterly dismisses the joker even though she’s supposed to be OBSESSED with him, even when he treats her like shit. Even way after he died she tried to destroy Batman for that very reason and would never stop.
On top of all of this, $10 DOLLARS to play as joker for a game that’s already $70+ is crazy! 10$ for a single character and nothing new is nuts.
But this Harley is a Sweet Baby, and she don't need no white man!!
When they shut the game down sooner rather than later, I'll bet anything they completely remove this from Arkham continuity. All mentions of relation will be removed everywhere. They will call it another, splinter continuity. They actually do that with comic books, so don't be surprised.
@sharpester7277well that would explain the horrendous storytelling and dialogue wouldn't it? 😅
The whole Harley character was completely ruined as a whole top shes nothing like how she’s supposed to be
Recent Day gaming in a nutshell
I have appeared on Angry Joe. My career is complete
Had time to heal? In love with SS, again?
Hopefully yall can move on to better games :)
Remember in Arkham Knight, when Harley literally freaked out when all the sick jokers were killed & then she was all over Henry Adam’s the last Joker. She would of done ANYTHING for a new joker & then one turns up and she’s like nah i’m good
They literally copied the Harley from animsted series , not even respecting canon or any logic or reason these writers are retarded
This is the most enraging thing they have done, almost hurt my feelings lol. Rocksteady's disregard for their own past (brilliant) work is gross.
Just like deadshot they're adapting akrhamverse characters to fit the mainstream versions of them, and for Harley especially this makes no sense at all
Yup, cant have a woman in love with a man in 2024.
Remember in Arkham city when Harley flips towards Batman and you instantly KO her with one single move because shes just a goofy ass ex psychiatrist with absolutely no skill or value who is an obsessed victim of the joker?
Clearly neither do the goofs who made this pile of feces.
This is the best example of the very worst of the gaming industry. Low effort, lazy, empty content hidden behind level grinds to convince 15 year olds to purchase dlc instead.
This is absolutely criminal. Seeing those clips of the devs blatantly LYING and misleading gamers should be prosecutable. Disgusting.
Once the gaming generation is old enough to have any say on laws (so another 20 years or so) it will be illegal.
White Collar Crime... It IS a bitch. Unfortunately it's a legal one.
Game devs misleading in marketing. Great what else is new
It is, something called false advertisement
Marketing and the Devs....are not always the same thing. The publishers often make a lot of bad calls that screw over devs.
In Arkham Knight, there was the whole plot of the "Joker Infection", the mutated blood that slowly turned people into copies of the Joker (in Arkham City, the Joker distributed his blood to multiple blood banks and hospitals), they could have brought him back as in "though Batman gave us the cure, this one couldn't be treated in time because they went into hiding or Brainiac invaded before we could treat him so he went full Joker", but nope, they went for the lazy "it's Joker, but from another dimension"
umm how does being injected by someones blood like B- turns one into another person?🤣🤣
@@Azuria969because silly comic book logic, that’s why 🤣
Honestly, that would have been cool! A Joker copycat who wasn’t saved on time.
@@sciencefantastic I can't recall which comic it was in, I think it was a SpiderMan comic, where there was a "virtual reality grenade" that essentially made holograms. It was impressively ridiculous and hilarious as well, good times.
those rocksteady developer interviews sounds like they are reading an AI teleprompter while being held hostage.
You may be right on that, from the interviews to season 1 launching, yea you may be right, I believe you, no wonder man.
Most of these staged "dev interviews" for AAA games have been like this since the late 2000s,lotsa buzzwords that gets the unassuming consumer who doeent keep up with the industry and the gullible players that easily fall for this
It keeps on happening and these manufactured interviews gets cringier every time
I can't tell if they're just dead on the inside having theirs dreams crushed or if they really are just soulless shills for this garbage.
@@TheStorm119 there is a WB shareholder in a ski mask behind the teleprompter. I’ll let your imagination fill in what they’re holding in their hands.
Thankfully that's only their B-Team. The A-Team left already to form their own studio, Hundred Star Games
Sometimes I genuinely wonder if developers purposely make live service games terrible in protest.
They screwed up their only job to warn us and educate us. Martyr…
they are and sweet baby inc is the reason why
No. They're too micromanaged to give a crap.
I don't think there's any active effort to do so, but I do think all this stuff just kills their passion for making the game. No way most devs are going to go in super jazzed and ready to put their best effort into designing an online marketplace with a game attached
They have to be because you can't tell me that those people at that company played this and was like yes people would like it.
What they are doing is ILLEGAL… it is called deceptive pricing. They cannot increase the price of the emote from the original price to only then reduce the amount to show the public that “it’s on sale” when in fact there is no price change from the original amount. I’m shocked. Never wouldve thought that the company that made some of my favorite games would do something like this. This is clearly deceptive pricing/false advertising.
Bethesda also pulled this bs with Fallout 76. Any time a game company goes into the "live service" scene, expect shady practices. It's a sad time we're living in 😮💨
They aren't the same people that made your fav games, that's why.
Exactly! Bethesda got in trouble for this during the Christmas holidays for Fallout 76.
That MSRP law doesn't apply to digital goods. They can apply any fake discounts they want to digital goods.
What they are doing isn't illegal. Doesn't mean it isn't a scummy move especially when the game has been poorly received. People barely want to play the game why would they want to buy the joker? Lol
At least Mark Hamill didn't attach himself to this
I'm sure he wasn't asked. They spent enough on Kevin and Tara. They're trying to make money not spend it lol
Unfortunately, Conroy did.
@@afterhours2103Conroy was willing to join I mean he apparently likes to act as a evil batman and he even praises rocksteady and due to this he is willing to participate in any dc related stuff that rocksteady is creating. Rocksteady and Conroy always had a great relationship but unfortunately rocksteady has created a extremely flawed and mixed game which Kevin cannot possibly have predicted.
@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 did conroy even care about Batman anymore? He had to have known about this game being canon. Conroy probably got sick of the character and wanted to kill him off just like Harrison Ford wanted to kill off Han Solo. Hey, but that's just speculation.....
This game, in my universe, is ultimately dismissed from being canon. Batman Origins is more canonically received than SSKTJL.
NO!!!!!! Kevin conroy loved Batman. It was his main role that he related to with hiding behind a mask and being a symbol of hope to others. So no, he definitely didn’t want Batman to go out this away it goes completely against what he loves about Batman. It’s more likely given the leaks, Kevin knew more about how the “story” was Going to go in future seasons. Also again he mostly likely felt entitled to return as Arkham Batman. They practically needed him because he was Arkham Batman. Also because it gave him the opportunity to basically be evil Batman which isn’t something he has gotten before.
"Suicide Squad Season 1 is a disaster"
In other news, Roses are red, Violets are blue
Water is wet, trees cast shade, we're all gonna die and WB can't do anything right.
WB should sell DC
Roses are red, violets are blue,
Publisher effed up, what else is new?
Also the woke redesign of women
*This game blows*
*That much is true~*
„Hey, Green Lantern already lost, let’s use his exact same moves to win!!!?“ - Brainiacs Big Brain Move
Speaking of... why does Brainiac Green Lantern have black skin? Does that count as blackface since Brainiac is white? Bold choice.
@@boanoah6362 Techniclaly Brainiac is green, but yeah it’s not a good look.
Like, if he *has* to be a Green Lantern clone, why not summon those Coluan turrets like you find all around the map instead of just summoning the same miniguns regular Green Lantern did? Why not have him summon, like, big tentacles or something instead of missiles?
If I had to no-prize it… maybe he’s gathering data? Maybe he wants to see where the regular League went wrong, so he repeats their fights and takes note on what they do, what kind of tools the Squad have at their disposal, who’s helping them, etc., so he can eventually perfect a strategy to take them out for good in case another anomaly like the Squad ever shows up? But he’s shown all he has to do is freeze them and then sicc the Terminauts on them, and there’s no way in heck he doesn’t know they’re operating out of the Hall of Justice. He’s so dumb, “12th level intellect” my butt.
@@DuelaDent52 You spent more time on this comment than the devs did on the characters
It's even worse than that... Why Green Lantern at all? He has nothing to do with the Joker! Why isn't Batman the boss for Joker?! What the hell has happened to Rocksteady!?
@@isushi Even better than that. Next characters (according to stuff I've seen) are Victoria Fries (Mrs Freeze), Zoe Lawton (Lawless), and Deathstroke. All Batman villains or at least alt versions of normal Batman villains. Rumors say Katana and Killer Croc might come after that but even then Croc would most likely just be King Shark but slightly different in terms of playstyle. Rocksteady screwed this game up in an honestly spectacular fashion.
Quote from dev: "We wanted the joker to be insecure, to reflect on why he does what he does".
Didn't even realize was writing the joker, and not her auto biography
I like this character. The giggler is a deeper character than joker
the joker is historical a very self reflective and guilt ridden character 😂 guys he’s a psychopath with no value for human life or the capability to feel remorse
That's what happens when Rocksteady (or any studio) replaces the talent with Didn't Earn It hires. Quality just drops.
What?...The Joker is litterally the walking embodiment of chaos, destruction and insanity.
He cares so little about human life.
He's not supposed to care about why he does what he does.
He just wants to drive people as mad as him to the point that if someone gives in to the thought of killing him and manages to, he's essentially passed the torch onto whoever gives in to his madness.
The Injustice universe is litterally proof of this.
If he IS reflecting on anything, it's for the sake of mocking others and comedically laughing at them.
To be fair it doesn't look like they wrote him that way. He barely is a character.
This game is the modern day equivalent of Sisyphus, forced to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity
Lol
Remember 15 or so years ago where when you purchase a game, you ACTUALLY get the game? No season passes, no battle passes, no premium currency, no "surprise mechanics" (aka loot boxes), no grinding for 40 hours just to play as Darth Vader in a Star Wars game, no $18 for blue, no strings attached, just purchase a game and you can enjoy it and unlock everything the game has to offer FOR FREE..... good old days😔
😅😊
@@thehighhnotes Those games still exist. They're just made by indie devs and Nintendo.
Okey grandpa lets get you back to bed. (jokes im 28 i remember those times too)
So glad I built a pc and can go back and enjoy real games. I'll be getting these crap games for free if I ever want to try them in the future 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
@urekmazino6800 I'm not saying I agree with this completely, but enjoy sailing the seven seas, I guess😂
76000BP to reach max level on the battle pass, at 50XP per mission, that's 1520 Mission to max out... GET THE F*CK OUTTA HERE!
Just when you think they couldnt fuk up anymore, they do this, You new Rocksteady guys have tarnished the legacy of that companies achievements
BP turned gaming to a chore
I could understand if this was an actual free to play game, like mobile games. To charge $70 for this is ridiculous.
I know you can get bonus XP, but estimating even at 10 minutes per mission with 50xp per mission you’re looking at 250+ hours to max. With 20% bonus xp it’s still 200+ hours…
but you get 1520 missions…. WITH NEW BALLOONS 🎈 🎉
Joe they clarified that the stronghold missions are in the game already. It’s just the new joker themed levels. There is no more content this season.
what the fuck....
Well then what “content” is coming in the second Episode of the Season? I mean, if Rocksteady is splitting these post-launch Seasons into two “Episodes” each, then shouldn’t that mean that only about 50% of the Season’s “content” has been released? Otherwise, what’s the point of splitting up the Seasons in the first place? Is it just an excuse to have two Brainiacs per Season? Are ALL these Seasons just gonna have one playable character you have to grind to unlock, some more generic weapons and skills, some dumb and repetitive costumes, two lazy Brainiac boss fights, a boring new location to jump around in, some more annoying dialogue, one cutscene (or maybe two if you’re lucky), and no new story missions or any new variety in enemy and level types? I can’t believe Rocksteady of all companies is setting a new low for what the bare minimum should be for seasonal expansions.
So the new Strongholds were just the old ones with a shitty face lift? Holy fucking shit, this might just be a new low for scummy business practices in Video Games. I never thought I would look at Avengers with fonder memories. Y I K E S
Just flipping visual assets for the strongholds isn't enough to justify this shit. Do they really expect people to be tied over for months with nothing new added to the game, besides Jonkler?
@@samzilla567 I'm honestly baffled. This is honestly worse than any bad game launch. I thought the performance for Starfield and Dragons Dogma 2 was bad but this takes the cake.
Guys, y'all are getting it wrong, WB just wanted us to have the genuine joker experience by going mentally insane while getting him, it's not greed, it's a immersion feature
The practice of having an item say it costs 100 but it’s 50% so it’s 50 when we all know that’s just the actual price, meant to trick people into believing it’s a deal, should be illegal.
That some FO76 shit right there i remember bathesta do Christmas emote at 2400 but say it 50% off so it 1200
Then after much complain they changed it to 1200 (and yea it illegal in some country but not US im pretty sure)
All the major clothing stores in the US (Kohl's, Sears, JC Penney, etc.) got sued for that, so it IS illegal. Unfortunately, this country turns a blind eye to these practices in the entertainment/video game industry.
Pretty certain it is illegal in certain countries, it just isn't as enforced because people don't report it like they should.
How are you gonna prove a company doesnt think their product should be 100 base price? Launch sales happen. If they never raise the price then yeah you could maybe get that for false advertising. That being said it didnt seem like these 17 dollar emotes had any "limited time sale" notice on them.
regardless dumb people should smarten up and stop buying dogshit.
Apex does this too with their store
> Sets up stream
> Sees the requirements they’re asking for in order to play the character and missions they advertised as free
> *AR YUH - ARYAOUDDYAMYND???!!!!!*
> Elaborates in great detail
> Ends stream
Common Joe W. 😂
Epic af 😂
The fact the Joe stuck around for a live service has me stunned since this isn’t normal for him.
He's a massive Dc fan. Also this is Rocksteady a once great gaming company
It really isn’t that surprising
He said he wanted to do a review discussion on the game and never got a chance to. But the update came out and this was his last straw 😂
Superman related things that's why
There's nothing inherently wrong with LS. It sucks when it's unnecessary and sucks. All mmos are LS and it's a good thing.
They really made the Jonkler real, shows how Rocksteady really listens to the community 💯🙏
I loved it when they said "it's Suicidin' time" and just fuckin killed the game
This has to be the best version of this joke I’ve seen. If this was steam you’d get the clown award and a firm slap on the ass. Well done.
This is why you shouldn't let women write jokes.
1520 missions over 96 days is still 16 missions a day! Who has time for this crap?
No one, that’s the idea. They don’t give a flying fuck about your time or enjoyment. They want your money, nothing else.
Live Service game fans.
Fuck that, this is why I never like nor play live service game like this. Anthem, Redfall, Cyberpunk, and Marvek Avenger are the prime example of how downright pathetic the current gaming industry had become.
And remember the time where a certain man said that Multiplayer is the future and not single player only to be proven wrong again and again? Yeah, good times where even some buy that BS.
I dont know why but I had a feeling that the next live service game will show us something much worse.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71Nah. I've been playing a lot of live service games. Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star rail, Warframe, Elder Scrolls: online and so on. If any of them tossed in a battlepass this bad, I'd nope out immediately.
@Warfoki I don't know why but I gave you a thumbs up for mentioning Elder Scrolls online lol. Love that game
Wait... they don't REALLY reset your level to 0, do they? Why the fuck would they do that? You bust your ass, and your level gets reset each season? THE FUCK?
the absolute kicker was that all those wepons and buids being grinded for base game are now pointless as it sounds like they made only poison viable
They dont reset you level to 0. the levels you earned playing season 0 or "Finite Levels" are still there and playable while still having a new set of levels and masteries attached to the season 1 "Fear". Ive seen people complain about previous build not working with the current season but i think its a fun mechanic with the "Meta Busters" which stop you from using items and builds that previously worked and force you to try out new build with the new items that the season introduced (though i think a stash would be helpful as items are becoming cumbersome). This is only Episode 1 of Season 1 with 3 more Episodes coming with new characters and new items presumably coming as well.
@Menzeta look how long it took you to try to explain all that 😂
@@tonesdad0408 ok
Garbage game Garbage company @@Menzeta
"Season 1 of Diablo was absolute shit, but this is worse! We didn't even get an apology!"
Of course you didn't, this is WB we're talking about. All you got was "Screw you, give us $10."
They did less than the bare minimum.
Also Harley having next to no dialogue is so baffling. Harley had a whole DLC post Joker about her mourning him lol.
No, no, but you see, Harley had a bunch of offscreen character development between games that means you couldn't write any actually intersting interactions with a character who was basically the core drive of her story. Some people might say that is an incredibly uncreative and boring way to look characters, but according to the defends that's just an example of how good the writing is!
You know the more I see this the more I realize that old kids games like wacky races, Disney infinity and crash bandicoot are more creative then this game.
Ps the Lego game is more faithful to the source material then this.
Hell we don't have to go that back, Fortnite's Seasons, as much as i'm not a fan of the genre, are and have been pretty damn solid always brining in new content, weapons, skins, new stuff to do, new maps etc. Roblox has also been killing it for a while too. I think the reason why games aimed more at younger kids have so much quality content that comes out on a consistent base is because kids generally have low attention spans and need to be stimulated way more than adults or even teenagers need to be. The devs making games aimed at this young crowd are very aware of this and they know that in order to maintain a playerbase they need to pump out content not just consistently but that content needs to be quality too. Kids are not adults, the concept of a sunk cost fallacy where one plays a thing they hate because they bought it already does not exist in a child's brain . If a kid doesn't liike something they throw it away immediately
@@prossnip42dang your comment is so good I honestly don’t have to add anything.
@@prossnip42how young we talking because 10 year olds and up definitely have a sunk cost fallacy.
Hogwarts Legacy: single player story driven game - best selling game of 2023.
Suicide Squad: multiplayer live service looter shooter - launch disaster.
WB: hmm looking at these 2 games it obvious the fans want more live service games…..yes, yes that’s the key to success 🤪🤑🥴
Hogwarts legacy also has the huge harry potter fanbase behind, which didnt get a good game since playstation 1 hagrid times.
you forgotten to mention that the sales mostly gave Hogwarts a boost because we havent had a harry potter game since... what, the Deathly Hallow movie games?
I've played Hogwarts and i couldnt get past 5 hours because i was so bored out of my mind when playing it
@@friskas8664 not to mention “woke” people tried boycotting the game because of what they thought it represents. And it still did well.
@@Cruddy129I don’t finish most games I buy. I am not a harry potter fan as well. I did finish that game though. I get bored real quick in video games and never finish them
The problem is they look at other live service games that are doing well and think Oh this shit is what people want, let's make that. But also don't even bother looking at why those are doing well, and instead overcharge, overmonetise and under deliver on content
Love how the color Blue has become a household meme for Angryjoe like "he's a man not a god", "Godzilla is aproaching the generator" or "wanna play zombie games".
This is just pathetic.
This is why I don't play big AAA live service games anymore, because the industry doesn't respect their players anymore. It's always all about chasing those profit margins and infinite growth, and that is what's ruining the whole industry.
On the other hand though, because of games like these I get to touch grass more and spend time on other hobbies.
We are onto AAAA games now man. Also 70 is the new 60 dollar standard for big studio games.
If you need for an industry to go down on quality in order to touch grass and enjoy other activities you lack discipline or/and you are weak. Get your shit together, my dude
If you ever hear the words "they even screwed up joker", understand there is nothing to salvage. Either reboot or move on.
Like it should be impossible to make anything boring with joker in it.
Where there's a will there IS a way...
You must not have heard about the pregnant joker comic
@@nestormelendez9005the what?
@@paulovinasrocha6166 yup
“Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity”
Ohhhh I get it, this WB/Rocksteady Season 1 cringe debacle EXACTLY the kind of trolling the Joker would do.
I'm honestly more interested in a walk-through of how to cook salmon in your dish washer, than i am in this game.
So Detroit: Become Human or other games made by the same company?
😂
Helldiver 2 simply does everything better then this, its cheaper, has more content, is more fun, its "shop" is better, cheaper and the game gets more content frequently, for free.
I Wonder if he’ll ever review helldivers 2
Dude! I bought HD2 for 40 eurs and i did not have to spend anything else on it. I have everything unlocked with playing around 2 hours per day since launch and have 1000 supercredits to spare when they drop the new stuf. Aaaand still play it because it is fun.
Helldivers 2 is more fun and has more enemies but I don’t think it has more content 😂
Ya, i really hope he review Helldiver 2, and give every reason why indie games are rising and AAA or AAAA games are getting worst these days. I hope get review indie games as well, not only AAA games.
@@Arasaka107 are you dumb?
Never pre-order, never buy day 1, and never purchase microtransactions.
Depends on the game
@@johnshepard8556 No it doesn't. Stop supporting the stupid crap and it will force change. Keep supporting the garbage and gamers will keep getting garbage.
@@johnshepard8556What?
@@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 there are certain games that are worth are preordering
Some games do microtransactions well its few bit they do exist
Man this was probably the biggest disappointment in gaming for me in a minute. Fucking sucks
That Superman skin on king shark is ATROCIOUS
Yes
Legit reminded me of Leatherface with how creepy the Superman face looked
even as a PARODY skin, it looks like garbage
I love how even king sharked looked gad damned ashamed to be wearing that shit
people need to stop paying for shit like this, that's why they still make this crap.
Exactly. I find it hard to blame the studios anymore. They wouldn’t be making this shit if yall stopped buying it. It was plain as day from the moment this game was shown that it would be terrible. Same thing with Anthem. People are bad at judging if games will be good or not.
@@joetron333I've been making comments like this on every related video on YT for the last 8 years and rarely do I ever get more than 10 likes. We are the minority
There will always be ppl defending the game as he showed. They loved it before this update, but money was already spent
Y'all are againts the wrong crowd. We must go after thoses drones who buy fifa and fifa microtransactions. Thats the model WB want to emulate.
@@joetron333I remember my friends showing me the gameplay reveal for anthem and I remember saying to myself " this looks good , in fact it's too good? " well look how it turned out
"...and balloons." I love how OJ makes Joe angrier just by saying the smallest things
19:12 - When it is cheaper to make the costume IRL than purchase it in game.
“it’s….its a thoUSAND! ITS A THOUSAND FOR A SINGLE LEVEL!” 😂 12:58
That scream tho lmaoooo
the voice crack makes it for me.
Joe became an alto for a brief moment he was so angry 😂😂😂
20 missions = 1 level
64 levels = 1280 missions
How time is this like 10-15 minutes ??
This Game totally broke him 😂
Suicide squad game 2024 - 2024, you will not be missed
And they had a several years plan 😂
@@KenKaneki. I've been playing the Arkham games for 10+ years longer than this games length
@@aaronbood1999 because you know whats good
@@KenKaneki. I've been with the Arkham franchise back when I was in Primary school to second school and my Life
@@aaronbood1999 *ARKHAM* 🦇for life. And our respects to Kevin Conroy and the TRUE original dev team at Rocksteady who made the series THE BEST and a big part of our gaming years.
... the Joker never had anything to do with umbrellas, that's PENGUIN!
I swear to god if the sequel is not called Suicide Squad Restore the Justice Leage ima be pissed.😅
Once again, shout outs to Redfall for successfully lowering the bar for cutscenes in full price games.
"Wait, we dont ACTUALLY have to animate these?... seriously? Alright push it out"
*edit: I'm very aware that games use cheap cutscenes. Many games will have big cinematics and then budgeted sections inbetween like Bayonetta. I'm referring to when a game ONLY has stills/lazy motion comics for big scenes.
i mean the Infamous games did not have full animated cutscenes, but yeah that was before games costed $70!!!!!!! FOR NO REASON BECAUSE AAA GAMES ARE STILL THE SAME IF NOT WORSE!!!!!
@@heroicgangster9981 And also Infamous used those comic book cutscenes for actual style and effect, they were animated pretty well as far as the motion comic cutscene goes.
AND came out literally 15 years ago. The ps3/360 gen was only a few years in at that point, (which is funny because that's closer to the normal console cycle but 7th gen took eons to finish lol)
Try 94$ in Canadian dollars lol. Shits fucked
@@heroicgangster9981Infamous has this huge advantage of actually being a good game
@@heroicgangster9981Infamous has the advantage of being an actual good game
How about Persona 3 Reload, a remake from a PS2 game who remains solid, but it's obviously double A... $70. Literally spliced up on purpose, P3 already had a "definitive version" in the PS2, Atlus will sell that content at $25, then most likely they will include the Portable content as DLC, so for the entire PS2 experience in the mid 2020s, you will have to pay over $100. And the fans dares to defend this game because it has "a lot of content", over 60 hours, etc.. This literally revolts me, how can you define value by taking time as the common denominator? Look at this Suicide Squad, also lots of content, you have to grind for dozens of hours, that makes it more valuable if compared to shorter games like Inside? This industry is walking a destructive path, most likely this PS5 generation will be my last
Rocksteady is going to shut down in under the next two years, calling it.
Good. They deserve it.
being more of a grindfest than warframe is actually genuinely impressive, you can grind 10+ years of warframe content in less time than it would take you to finish the battlepass on S.Q.
atleast warframe is a free game with a lot of variety in missions and enemies
At least Warframe is fun.
16:52 Keep in mind there are other 12 Braniacs so 1,520 * 12 = 18,240 total
I'm just heartbroken. I really wanted this game to be good.
I really wanted a Superman game. A Flash game. A Green Lantern game. And I'm worried for the Wonder Woman game.
This game probably discouraged hyping up any future games from WB and DC, further lessening the odds of the games I hope for from happening.
*JOKER FOR 10 DOLLARS ?!* 4:29
*24 DOLLARS FOR BLUE ?!* 19:14
*BUT JOE!* *ITS 50%* *OFF* 27:37
LMFAOOOOOO
I’m so pissed. This feels like a 100% scam. Filed a complaint with BBB not that it will do anything
All liveservice games are made to make people pay for microtransactions.
It won't do anything. WB has money and is owned by AT&T
@@taags there are live service games and there is this...
I almost bought the $99.99 dollar on sale for $49.99. Glad I didn't.
Outside of reviewers, anyone still left playing this dumpster fire deserves everything they get.
Based of season 1, they ain't getting anything 😂😂😂.
Maybe they're playing the game so no one else has to.
@@cadethumann8605They're the heroes we don't deserve.
and those people will makes posts saying dumb shit like "why was this game hated i'm enjoying it?" just like with Forspoken
@@bwill123 But the ones we need.
WB ruined 3 games in a row for me. Gotham Knights, Mortal Kombat, and now this. They’ve seriously lost all trust, and WB used to be a company I held tons of respect/value for. I can now say it’s one of the very few corporations I truly hate
Just curious, why and which mortal kombat?
@cmendoza244 mortal kombat 1. The newest one is absolute garbage compared to the previous games. And especially compared to mk9 which had so much more content and fun factor to years ago. The new mk1 is absolutely terrible boring trash
@@angelganon8213just giving adjectives doesn’t give us anything. Give actual reasons like “the game is laggy”
@@angelganon8213 dude. The story is so bad. By chapter 4 the tournament is over. The stages have 00000 interactivity and are so stagnant it's retarded how far back we stepped in game dev...
@paulallen2680 overpriced microtransactions, nickel and diming for announcer voices and fatalities,
Boring cameo gameplay that limits the combos and stuff you can do.
Grindy unlocks that take forever
Boring rewards and trophies that are locked behind what they call invasions which is just you running through a lot of Boring uninteresting areas to fight to hope to unlock stuff.
A lot of the replay for trophies and rewards are repetitive like this suicide squad game.
Very very grindy progress making you level your fighters and cameos and it takes forever to do. Overall the story of the game is interesting but the main gameplay is just not fun and very limited compared to previous games.
You have to level up your characters to get a second fatality and brutalities unlocked and it takes a long time unless you're dedicated. There's a reason lots of people stopped playing and no one is talking about it anymore
Season 0 - Bane gear set around craze
Season 1 - modifier that makes craze not work on enemies
What a shitty was to try and get people to grind the new gear, each season ur builds gonna be instantly redundant
Also it makes no sense canonically cant they just dip there bullets in poision on any gun or just do what militarys can do(it illegal under international law) by making it an poision injecting bullet.
Oh the never winter nights online approach
That's exactly what I hate about most live service games especially star trek online, diablo, call of duty, heck even sea of thieves with just 4 weapons rolls out buffs and nerfs
This is not Rocksteady, it's "Rocksteady". Everybody worth a damn left already. Rocksteady is now called Hundred Stars.
even warframe cant use word "grind" so many times in one sentence. Thats... impressive. In all the wrong ways.
Warframe doesn't even really have a grind tho, it's mostly just farming.
@@ishitrealbad3039 thats what grind is... Farm of tons of resurses...
@@TheAngryHumster no, that's farming.
grinding is when you "grind" for example levels or "end game" stuff.
@@ishitrealbad3039 exactly what you allways do in warframe. Grind your ass off for mods, weapons, frames parts, levels, reputation on tons of fractions... List goes on. That IS grind.
@@ishitrealbad3039warframe is literally one big grind.
Joe laughing his ass off sounded more Joker than Joker.
I love how they said the villains would be free, and there'd be no gameplay affecting microtransactions, then they immediately let you pay to get Joker instantly
I can only imagine what the state this game would've been like if it released last year like it originally was supposed to
The way the opening ad started, I thought the video was gonna be Joe ranting about his tabs being open and how they help him game
This is unbelievable!! First they disrespected Kevin Conroy's Batman, and now the joker!! Clearly the people who made the Arkham series left, because they would never create a game like this. They would never disrespect and ruin the franchise they created. This really hurts me since I grew up with the games. Such a beloved franchise, such a beloved company, now in ruins because of greed and trend. Warner brothers to me is becoming the Hollywood "Blizzard"
Yeah I'm pretty sure the studio founders left before launch of this abomination
@@JCoops14 They left around 2 years ago to found a new studio of around 100 Devs. Hopefully whatever they end up releasing is better than this.
I believe the new studio is called Hundred Stars games
No thank you. I’ll stick to Helldivers 2 and BG3
For Democracy!
For Liberty!
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
For Liberty!
For the Republic! (managed Democracy)
Amen
Oh so you're just gonna encourage live service games
8 years of development but couldnt find time to address end game content lol that is so crazy to me
Daily reminder that Arkham Joker died at Arkham City and this is just not canon.
Its canon and the joker from arkham is not the same as this joker, this is a joker from an alternate timeline where everyone else in his timeline has been killed. So yes, it is not the same joker, but it is canon.
yes, true !!! How did they justified it ???
Oh just kidding, it's true they don't care.
It's a multiverse, anything goes. Characters can live or die, the villain can destroy the universe, the good guys can save the universe, etc.. nothing matters
@@kyoeki5it’s not canon
Yeah, I agree. The first games were really good
It's simple, Joe. The WB Executives probably told Rocksteady to do this, because they already promised one year of seasons. Four new characters, guaranteed to come within a year of launch. They already know they aren't gonna make their money back, so they're having Rocksteady do the absolute minimum to fulfill that promise before they shut it down. Then Rocksteady can't make a bunch of crappy F2P Mobile games based off the Arkham properties! "Sorry, Batman is out of Energy! If you pay 1000 DC Gold Coins, you can refresh his Energy, and escape the Deathtrap!"
I think the worst part about all this is there’s people who are trying to defend this BS game
Most likely employees of WB
That's what kills me. These goofy mfs will call you every name in the book for criticizing this trash bag ass game too
People still defend literal traitors to their country, ofc they'll defend a game company that gave them a tiny bit of amusement.
Joe's high pitched "It's a thousand!" Is the next "fuggin' blue?"
Hey Joe my cat passed away today and I just wanted to thank you for the joy you’re still able to bring me. Love you guys.
My aunt lost her 18 year old cat this weekend too... My thoughts are with you and your kitty 🐈♥️
Amen
rip kitty's 🙏
I had been looking forward to the Wonder Woman game but after seeing how WB has been managing their IPs recently I'm really starting to worry.
I don't blame you. WB should sell DC
@@karimdavis7065 I've been hoping for this for years. Ever since the Green Lantern movie, really.
@@karimdavis7065 that like saying Disney should sell marvel
woke activists work there so expect garbage content. The hole industry is infected with them. If you see female lead, RED FLAG, it will suck.
@@karimdavis7065WB is going into the ground. It's a death spiral. They're making budget cuts everywhere and trying to sell IP's everywhere. WB is already shutting down RoosterTeeth and they're trying to sell all of RT's IPs (RWBY, RvB, Gen:lock, Camp Camp, etc.)
Salute to angry Joe for still talking about this piece of shit game. This is a game that is getting delisted, next year
100% chance it's getting delisted next year or under two years and Rocksteady will be shut down.
This isn't Rocksteady. It's a skinsuit worn by a cynical corporation, just like Blizzard and all the other once beloved developers are these days.
NEVER EVER PREORDER. $0 sales will end the practices of the corrupt game companies. The talent will find another place to work and still create.
Its not about the game, its about "the message".
With digital storefronts becoming the norm, there's absolutely no reason at all to pre-order any game. It worked back in the day when game availability was dependent on a retailer's stock. Now it's completely pointless for the consumer and only serves to reward lazy, corrupt game companies.
Too bad the masses will still pre order. When education in general is lacking the dumb masses are easily controlled.
I have the screenshot of a reddit post on there subreddit with the typical "i am enjoying the new season" and someone in the comments saying "people cant just enjoy games anymore"... Me and my friends share the screenshot back and forth because its stupidly hillarious
On facebook there's a brazilian gaming group and one guy trying to defend this garbage, saying "oh but can unlock joker in 35 minutes".
@@tavernadodevilhunter6732 even if he is completing one level in a minute, he will not be able to do so, since it takes two missions to reach one level
Make a cardboard DC costume irl for $5 or buy a digital cardboard DC costume in a game for 20+ dollars…
It's gotten worse, the player peak number was at 151. I believe once those numbers goes below 100, they'll have another meeting most definitely to decide to shut down the servers. This game won't even last another season let alone a year
we need a collective lawsuit. Every critic, every gamer, all 30k people, file a lawsuit against WB and Rocksteady.
crowdfund it.
sh*t like this should not be allowed to exist.
Lawsuit for what lmao disappointment? Are you even a shareholder?
@@stinkfinga4918 Lawsuit for a scam? did you even pay for the game?
@@stinkfinga4918 false advertising, malpractice, fraud.
@@stinkfinga4918 CDPR got a lawsuit by their own investors and a government investigation when they put out Cyberpunk.
You don't need to be a shareholder. You bought the product, therefore you are a paying customer.
@nikt12 the government investigation was brought on by shareholders, the investors, the people who actually lost money on lies. If you're dumb enough to buy it you don't get anything. Cyberpunk was largely unplayable on release. The only thing wrong with SS is its a lazy cash grab. That's not illegal. It's like buying the big candy bar only to find it's just two smaller ones in the wrapper. Again, if you're dumb enough to buy it, you get nothing.
Instead, just focus on keeping the heat on companies and actually researching products before purchase. You can boycott, you can call out groups like Sweet Baby or practices like DEI, but you got nothing to sue them for as a consumer.
Might I add that, from a lore perspective, this whole power-copying thing the various Brainiacs use is NOT a thing Brainiac has done in any comic, animated show or video game? Copying the JL is Amazo’s schtick, not Brainiac’s.
Granted, Rocksteady didn’t seem interested in following their own lore, so why would they care about anyone else’s?
EDIT: It also occurs to me that it makes no sense for Brainiac, a supposed super-genius, to continue to use a losing strategy against the Suicide Squad.
Nah, you’re forgetting third time a charm
yeah i love how one of the smartest and most calculating villains in DC is continually outsmarted and beaten by the fucking suicide squad
@@jfk8540 the classic idiocracy trope we are seeing in holywood the last 20 years
This is a perfect example of how much rocksteady is hellbent on bastardizing its own company
It’s just a name. Unfortunately, not the same company and team behind it anymore that built what was.
It's rocksteady like blizzard is still blizzard, meaning same name totally different studio with employee and vision
I didn’t even think they could piss us off even more, BUT THEY DID 😡
This is WB's doing. Everyone from Rocksteady already jumped ship
Rare does better live service than WB
We need to admit this now. Rocksteady doesn’t care about their fans.