@daviddare100 well buddy satanael resists every element and has tyrant's mind plus victory cry, meanwhile raoul starts at a lower level,only nulls curse and is WEAK to bless, and only gets heat riser and some heavy curse skills, and thats without talking about any of satanael's builds which are way quicker to make than raoul's thanks to satanael's higher level Ps: i still think raoul is cooler looking and that making him an ailment focused persona (thx to phantom show) is unique but imo hes inferior to satanael for the afformentioned reasons
Triggered Meggy yep, though it kinda makes sense since you only get Satanael from getting The World, but they could have just made it a new game plus sort of thing, like a second Satanael for if you get into the 3rd semester.
@@thebiolibrary5572 honestly, I think Maybe having joker unlock this persona after the story catches up with him in the present. And then have arsene and them fuse to make Satanael at the end of the 2nd semester. Kind of like saying "Hey, Once you enter the 3rd semester, Everyone can now unlock a new tier of persona, Just like joker"
In My Opinion, messiah Is His Third Tier Persona, Because Orpheus Telos Is... Recolored Orpheus (Not Gonna Lie I Did Get Orpheus Telos In Reload, But I Was Extremely Disappointed Being My First Run And Not Knowing That It Was Red Orpheus)
Classy, just like Joker. I especially love the red coat and the mechanical bat wings in place of Arsene's feathered wings and Satanael's demonic wings.
As bummed as I am that he's DLC... WOOOOOOOO HE LOOKS AMAZING I've been reading some of LeBlanc's works, so seeing Raoul is a little extra special now~
DomHyrule Yes, you’re right. The full name is Arsene Raoul Lupins. It makes sense on why Raoul looks a bit like “wolf-counsel” because thats the true definition on French origin. Fun fact tbh.
@@unknownv8castle266 he does it 80 percent of the times when you use raoul and 10 percent of the times when he dodges an enemy attack(blocking and repeling dont count) when i was fighting the twins solo he did that like 3 or 4 times
I love how everyone else has at least a scene with them awakening their 3rd tier, but Atlus didn’t know how to integrate Raoul, so they were just like ‘DLC’
If you compare the other confidant's 3rd-tier Personas, Raoul being third does make sense. It's Arsène's "unmasked" form, much like the other 3rd tiers are the "unmasked" forms of the confidant's 1st tier persona.
Yeah. Think of the theme of the third tier Personas as just basically a powered up version of the first tier ones. So Raoul fits. I do agree tho that Satanael looks more "grandiose" which makes it feel weird that Raoul is the third tier but I always preferred the Arsene aesthetic over Satanael so this is a win for me.
@@nycto5335 It also kinda fits with previous ultimate personas, Izanagi no okami, Orpheus Telos *even though those games only had two tiers unless you count golden where your teammates have third tiers and Yu gets screwed over*
@@myheroandmadaralover2372 I run Raoul over Satanael because he’s great for Technicals. Yes, in all other categories Satanael has him beat, but there are easily even better damage dealing Personas you can switch to instead (Asterius, Izanagi-no-Okami , Kaguya, and Yoshitsune come to mind).
I'm not sure this is true,but i remember that someone said that there was a cutscene at the final battle and Joker was supposed to have his 3rd awakening
NintendoBrother Yeah...Now the only things that make me feel better about this are: 1. Seeing Raoul used against Minato &/or Yu. (Check.) 2. Seeing Raoul used against The Final Final Final Boss. AND most importantly, 3. Seeing an awesome Raoul Build that maybe JUST maybe fitting for Ren’s TRUE 3rd Tier ULTIMATE Persona
NintendoBrother Hmmm...possibly. Despite not y’know correct with fusion. Raoul just said he is Arsene’s true form...This part of the game is confusing😓
This is dlc? That's awful! They make us pay another whole $60 for the game and didn't just include everything? They want us to give them even more money?
@@rootbeeraddict4885 I mean it happened in persona 5 and no one said anything and for buying royal you get all persona 5 dlc for free which was like what $50 ish
Funny thing is there is official artwork you can get in-game (meaning no dlc) for Raoul, which means that there was a plan for Joker to Awaken to Raoul in the game
missed opportunity to make raoul's arcana (spoiler territory, turn back!) the world, since joker actually gets it at the end of the game this time. it only makes sense as the other third tier protagonist personas had the world arcana.
@@joeychaney9085 Black Viper and Morning star was exclusive skills, but in P5 *original* You could transfer via Gallows **gave Alice both** However it seems like they removed the ability to transfer exclusives completely in this game *Outside of Black Viper so long as you are fusing Satanael* Which is honestly pretty lame, But I can understand why, since it would be completely broken if you could transfer Myriad truths
He looks futuristic because joker and the phantom thieves 3rd tier personas are supposed to represent them looking toward the present and overcoming their past trauma. Well, that's what i think
I have a very rough and probably story-contradictory idea for how Raoul could've been put into the story: At the third Semester, Joker gets to keep Satanael(albeit without Sinful Shell for obvious reasons), and then in the fake reality, Joker's friends take far longer to break out of the fake world, leaving him to fight Maruki alone with Akechi. Then, Maruki has Sumire beat the shit out of Akechi, and Joker, completely demoralised that he has no one to fight alongside him, also loses, causing the 2 to be held prisoner in the palace. Joker then has to break out by realizing that he has his own power, and does not need the power of other arcanas, evolving Arsene and Satanael into Raoul, the true final persona of The Fool. Again, this is absolute garbage, but in my opinion, Joker himself should've been given an arc in the third semester which leads to him developing Raoul, instead of Raoul being dlc
Part of me thinks they didnt bring him back because of strikers weird powerscaling it probably wouldn't make too much sense but it seems satanel is a one time use, I still think joker is plenty strong with his metaverse boost, who knows maybe they'll do something for him in persona 5 arena or a different spin off
@@chibs1235 even if they did exist in strikers they would be in the orginal p5 where no 3 tiers exist and they would just have their classic personas anyway and even in spin offs yu uses izanagj final form in a final smash move in arena and if minato was in arena he would just use Orpheus or telos i hope but either way Liz would have thantos and would help minato with the messiah attack and launch the power of what the universe arcana can do maybe a great seal move which it traps them in a small space and hit by the holy light and blow up and then min thx liz but she hugs and kisses him on the cheek and leaves him but either way they won’t appear cause they don’t want to make the sl links seem cannon or they just form back to their original form if they haven’t used them for awhile and gets back to its prime once they got enough spirit energy that’s why sees have their personas in their ultimate forms cause they fight shadows constantly but the investigation team and phantom thieves don’t as they barely use their personas as they completed in saving the world but now don’t need the powers and the world of personas as there are no threats so they just act like normal humans while their personas grow weak and go back to their old selves while sees fights the shadow world and make humanity not think of death
Yeah I don't like it either. The whole thing about the Wild Card is that it derives power from Confidants. Arsene came to Joker to help Ryuji. Satanel came to Joker when the will of the masses wanted to be freed. Igor tells us that just how the Tricksters powers work. The thought that Raoul was born by forsaking his Confidants and using his own power is similar to what Akechi did. Which limited him to two Persona. And even then his 3rd Tier Persona is only unlocked when you agree to fulfill his wish of not being controlled even if it means his death. So yeah I'm not with it but I like the imagination but Joker is the pillar of ...... everybody if he forsake everyone the world would definitely be doomed
@@ValiantStranger12 It's not that Joker completely abandons his friends, it's moreso that he discovers his own individual strength, and realizes that he is still extremely strong, even without his friends.
Well, Raoul is a Persona I’m definitely willing to buy. It looks so cool! Plus as far as we know, Joker is technically the only one that doesn’t awaken a third tier Persona through the story.
I mean in theory he seems like a beast the same way Orpheus tells was. His trait also does more weakness damage if you build him right plus technical damage is actually digusting now in royal.
That actually would’ve been kinda cool. Imagine an all-out brawl between Satanael and Adam Kadmon ending in the latter’s victory, forcing Joker to awaken to Raoul.
They missed the oportunity to actually incorporate Raoul into the story. They could've made Joker awaken him during the last fight with Maruki and let the player to unlock him later at NG+ along with Satanael.
Hazy Presence seems like the beat-suited trait for raoul, it makes sense for Joker and follow up attacks are so good. There are plenty of other personas with the relentless trait.
Satanael was the strongest form of Joker's power, formed by the hearts of the masses to defeat an false god. Raoul however, is the true form of a thief who just does what's right.
Ok.. Raoul is a cool Persona, that I can see. But Yu is called “Investigation Team Boy”. So I guess crossovers like with Star Ocean can call him Yu Narukami but official persona games can’t call him that???
He's called Yu is other games to make it easy to identify him. Even in Q2 he was just given the name Persona 4 Hero. He's whoever you want him to be. Personally, I call him Virgin in-game cause I think it's funny lol
Technically yeah, none of them have a canon name but that said, out of all of them Yu is probably the closest to having an official name. He's basically Yu Narukami in almost anything else I can think of. Hell I've gotten used to calling him Yu myself. It's kind of interesting, they seemed like they were never able to come to a similar consensus about P3 protag's real name or even Joker's real name but the P4 protagonist is different. I even just looked him up to see if he's gone by other names and the damn wiki just lists him as Yu Narukami rather than P4 protagonist. lol
Now we all know that Raoul would be called Smooth Criminal in the JoJo universe.What I want to know are his stats and stand ability. Post your ideas here👇
Fabrizio Crinó They will definitely bring them as dlc if persona 6 does happen but it won’t happen because the people who worked on persona 5 are working on another project in a brand new company. They were only able to make persona 5 royal because they had ideas that weren’t used in the original game due to restraints
Daniel Woren, the voice actor who voiced Igor in P3 and P4, is still alive. Kirk Thorton is Igor’s current voice actor as of P5. The Japanese VA, Isamu Tanonaka, died on Jan. 13, 2010. Igor’s role has been limited since then. And every time he makes a appearance, they reuse the VA’s performance from the archives.
It’s a bit jarring hearing him say that name cause my name is Raul (missing the O but more or less pronounced the same) so it’s like whenever he says it, I’m like “what’s up dude? You need something?”
out of curiosity, if you were to build Raoul as you would a Party Member's Persona, what would you give him? I'm thinking "Universal Law" as the trait with Eigaon , Maeigaon, curse boost, curse amp Phantom Snow, Concentrate, Ali Dance, Drain Bless (cheating, but fair since he doesn't get anything unique)
@@kixer7957 Technically Raoul exists outside of canon, since he is a DLC character. However if they had actually inserted him in as he is with his current stats, he would most definitely be considered his second tier. He is significantly weaker then Satanael and no third tier Persona are weaker then their second tiers.
I think dibilitate is 30% less def And heat riser is 30% base atk So it’s: 1.3 • 1.43 • 2.5 ≈ 4.65 Just dibilitate is: 1.43 • 2.5 ≈ 3.6 Considering he plays in merciless mode it would also be: 4.65 • 3 ≈ 13.95 3.6 • 3 ≈ 10.73 1 • 3 = 3 (no buffs) So technically all three together are stronger. But also dibilitate is better that heat riser. But these calculations are kinda not concrete since the game still has more in terms of damage input (ex. Rage plus knockdown = 4 multiplier)
So does anyone know if Santaneal is a better person gameplay wise? Or does Raoul take the cake slightly by having a powerful sleep move + technical damage?
Satanael are a lot better now, probably the best almighty user in the game if you don't have the new DLC persona since Tyrant's Mind + Megidolaon deals more damage than Morning Star. And yes, you could still boost those moves with Almigthty Boost + Amp & Magic Ability for more power.
Raoul really strikes me as a second tier persona for Joker rather than a third tier. Like i know it was just for dlc purposes but i think it makes a lot of sense to get Raoul somewhere along the lines after Sae's palace maybe? then Satanael is the true third tier persona.
Satanel is more powerful, but it can only be summoned when the hearts of the masses are in full support. Raoul on the other hand literally calls itself the true form, so it's probably Joker accepting his calling as the trickster and not needing the public's help anymore.
Why does everyone say that Raúl is the 3rd person in joker? isn't that satanael? I don't understand Or is it that first it is arsene then satanael and finally Raoul?
Raoul felt like cut content like protag's ultimate persona if atlus followed the original pattern of the ult persona's design not delving much from the base persona (i.e. messiah vs orpheus, izanagi no okami vs regular izanagi)
I maxed out his stats along with Kaguya Orpheus Thanatos Messiah Izanagi Magatsu izanagi Izanagi-no-okuma (+picaro versions) Alice Ishtar Cybele Satanael Ongyo-ki Satan Yushitsune Fafnir Alillat Hastur Baal (love his skill tbh) All so I got everything I paid for. Getting the rewards in the den makes it so much easier tho.
Would have been cool if, instead of DLC, he was just the result of fusing Arsene and Satanael, and that any other fusion that would otherwise result in him would navigate somewhere else.
I think people sleep (ha) on how absurd phantom show is Like yeah it's not myriad truths But a guaranteed status ailment that puts the entire enemy team on pause, gives you a free crit/down no matter what you hit it with, allowing you to completely bypass all resistances, WITH the absurdly low cost of 4 FREAKING SP Like, just picture Ann uses high energy, than makoto checkmate, yusuke the team wide heat riser, capped with phantom show? There's a point where compounding multiplications just explode, and phantom show feels like that tipping point on steroids
I feel like if we could have gotten a 2nd, and 3rd tire persona for Joker these would be how to get them. if you keep Arsen you level him up to a certain level, but you also have to max out the phantom thieves to get their 2nd tire, and for the third one that’s gonna be harder, you have to max out all confidants, everyone has to be rank 10, and the 2nd tire persona would have to be max as well, once you do that third tire persona, and it gets new stats, and abilities. That’s what I think then just making it dlc
Raoul looks cool but does anyone else thinks its unfair that he's DLC he should already be in the game. Also just a nitpick but hiw is he 3rd tier when Satanael is infinitely bettter than him?
I think he's supposed to be a "failed" attempt at fusing Satanael with Arsene, as Satanael was created with the entirety of Japan's (Possibly Za Waurdo's) rebellion against Yaldabaoths rules it would be difficult for Joker to attain the same power as he did then. Henceforth that's why Raoul isn't as powerful. As a tier, it would probably go Arsene < Raoul < Satanael. Idk this is what I've just heard but one thing is for sure though. He's by far the coolest yo
Arsène: I was born from your will of rebellion
Satanael: I was born from the wish of the masses
Raoul: I was born from corporate greed
I mean raoul is pretty frickkin cool so it’s worth it
Satanael is stronger
@glitchy TMH17, yeah
Kingdom Come A bullet that one shot a God which btw he can do multiple times.
@daviddare100 well buddy satanael resists every element and has tyrant's mind plus victory cry, meanwhile raoul starts at a lower level,only nulls curse and is WEAK to bless, and only gets heat riser and some heavy curse skills, and thats without talking about any of satanael's builds which are way quicker to make than raoul's thanks to satanael's higher level
Ps: i still think raoul is cooler looking and that making him an ailment focused persona (thx to phantom show) is unique but imo hes inferior to satanael for the afformentioned reasons
And now, Joker can fulfill his destiny and become the one true Smooth Criminal.
You've been hit by
You’ve been struck by
A Smooth Criminal
Truck
AAAOOOOWWWWWWW
Funny how the phrase "Annie are you ok?" Actually fits early game p5 lmao
Yu: Geez Joker, how come your mom lets you have two ultimate personas.
Joker: One of them is dlc.
Yu: Oh, I'm sorry.
SuperDanMan11100 Joker: Geez other phantom thieves, how come your mom lets you have your 3rd tiers in vanilla P5R?
Yu: No fair, everybody has a 3rd tier but me. Even my own damn team...
@@thebiolibrary5572 wait they seriously locked Jokers 3rd tier to dlc? God that sounds so atlus
Triggered Meggy yep, though it kinda makes sense since you only get Satanael from getting The World, but they could have just made it a new game plus sort of thing, like a second Satanael for if you get into the 3rd semester.
@@thebiolibrary5572 honestly, I think Maybe having joker unlock this persona after the story catches up with him in the present. And then have arsene and them fuse to make Satanael at the end of the 2nd semester. Kind of like saying "Hey, Once you enter the 3rd semester, Everyone can now unlock a new tier of persona, Just like joker"
Joker awakens to his third persona with the power of *MONEY!!!*
well he is a thief
Joker's ultimate persona is so powerful it can only be unlocked through the assistance of other dimensional beings...
Is ut bad I read this like Kiaba
@@austina133 YUGI MUTO, I SHALL SUMMON MY ULTIMATE PERSONA WITH THE POWER OF MONEY
@@tlayor9832 im reading this in abridged kaiba voice
Joker: Now everyone, summon your Third Tier Personas!
Ryuji: Sure thi-- Hey wait how are you gonna...?
Joker: Can I borrow $10?
EddyBinxEB ¥ not $
tommo shuddup uh it’s 10 real life dollars...
EagleStrike ohhh I though you were on about ingame currency sorry 😂
tommo shuddup
Bruh
guess Im the only one who paid $79.99 to get everything 😂😂
dammit Atlus!! I paid $120 CAD then I have to pay $80 CAD more!?
"Known to be a man of many friends, lovers, and treasured allies"
Yeah, that describes Joker pretty well too
Especially the lovers part
my man got a harem with him lol
Harem route ftw
Ryuji is in that lot too
@@Weigazod yea we can’t forget the lgbtq+ harem
@@ashybitxh230 lol
and Morgana :)
Hold up. He’s dlc. Now that’s just wrong
he could've easily appeared at the final boss
Apparently it was due to ¨time constraints¨ and they couldn't fit him in the main story but I dont see how.
Digirunner messiah wasn’t part of the story but that didn’t mean he wasn’t part of the base game
They could've made him a reward for unlocking all the third awakenings or something like that.
What are u going to do about it? I'm curious
Makoto Yuki: struggles with his social links over the course of a year maxing all off them to get Orpheus Telos
Ren Amamiya: Money
This speaks so much as someone who struggled with social links just to get Orpheus Telos 😂
In My Opinion, messiah Is His Third Tier Persona, Because Orpheus Telos Is... Recolored Orpheus (Not Gonna Lie I Did Get Orpheus Telos In Reload, But I Was Extremely Disappointed Being My First Run And Not Knowing That It Was Red Orpheus)
Classy, just like Joker. I especially love the red coat and the mechanical bat wings in place of Arsene's feathered wings and Satanael's demonic wings.
All of the class is negated by being DLC.
Well, Raoul is a modern version of Arsene in my opinion
@@niruapp8559 nah man, Raoul is Michael Jackson
I love his cigar
Joker:i heard your persona is the God of creation In Japan
Yu:why jealous cause you only have a thief for a persona
Joker:no I have MICHEAL JACKSON!!
Kyrie Espayos
HEEHEE
Door-kun: but I have jesus itself as a persona
@@youraveragesub Joker:But can he hee hee his enemies to death
But he haves a Machine gun
@@onewingedren2228 but does it make Micheal Jackson sounds
I love Arsene’s evolution chain. It goes from:
Gentleman Thief
D E M O N L O R D
Michael Jackson
Questo è quello che vendeeeeee, questo è quello che vogliònò.
@@persona5hacked574 Aspetta... Non Sono L'unico Italiano Che Conosce Persona?
As bummed as I am that he's DLC...
WOOOOOOOO HE LOOKS AMAZING
I've been reading some of LeBlanc's works, so seeing Raoul is a little extra special now~
By the way, Raoul may not just be another alias, but possibly Arsène's original name!
@@RealMelodyHope how are the books I want to try it
piracy
3:58 okay, we are going to gloss over how his name is Harem and his Group Name is ‘Thot Bangers’
U rite
To be fair, I'm naming my group in NG+ OnlyPhans
A$$EA3TER$ is the only name I’ve chosen for all of my 500 hours on p5/p5R
I'm just gonna go with Lupinrangers for my NG+ team
@@Phantasmguy you won the internet right here.
You wish to summon this persona?
Me: yes
* acquired fedora *
Me: what.......
* Arsene puts on fedora *
*I ART THOU THOU ART I*
Me:*WAIT WHAT THE FU-*
If you itemize him he becomes a hat
Fedora + Wing backpack + Satanael Strength - Satanael’s Big Buff Body = Raoul
6:06 when Joker finally has the “Joker Laugh” when using the imposter of “Batman Who Laughs” (Raoul).
Raoul is actually Arsene Lupins real or middle name (can't remember perfectly tbh)
DomHyrule Yes, you’re right. The full name is Arsene Raoul Lupins. It makes sense on why Raoul looks a bit like “wolf-counsel” because thats the true definition on French origin. Fun fact tbh.
If you get the the Japanese voice
Jokers V.A is the same as lelouch from code geass
I love that evil laugh
@@formerlostcause3573 I actually know that but haven't heard his laugh ingame do you know how to trigger his laugh?
@@unknownv8castle266 he does it 80 percent of the times when you use raoul and 10 percent of the times when he dodges an enemy attack(blocking and repeling dont count) when i was fighting the twins solo he did that like 3 or 4 times
I love how everyone else has at least a scene with them awakening their 3rd tier, but Atlus didn’t know how to integrate Raoul, so they were just like ‘DLC’
Option 1: Maruki Fight.
Option 2: Once Joker maxes all confidants.
Option 3: NG+
There were plenty of options, DLC was just easier or something.
Seems more like a 2nd tier persona with Satanael being the 3rd tier.
If you compare the other confidant's 3rd-tier Personas, Raoul being third does make sense. It's Arsène's "unmasked" form, much like the other 3rd tiers are the "unmasked" forms of the confidant's 1st tier persona.
Yeah. Think of the theme of the third tier Personas as just basically a powered up version of the first tier ones. So Raoul fits. I do agree tho that Satanael looks more "grandiose" which makes it feel weird that Raoul is the third tier but I always preferred the Arsene aesthetic over Satanael so this is a win for me.
@@nycto5335 It also kinda fits with previous ultimate personas, Izanagi no okami, Orpheus Telos *even though those games only had two tiers unless you count golden where your teammates have third tiers and Yu gets screwed over*
yah but i love the fact he put enimes to sleep thanks to high chance of sleap
@@myheroandmadaralover2372 I run Raoul over Satanael because he’s great for Technicals.
Yes, in all other categories Satanael has him beat, but there are easily even better damage dealing Personas you can switch to instead (Asterius, Izanagi-no-Okami , Kaguya, and Yoshitsune come to mind).
it would be way cooler if there was an actual scene for than having to just pay for it yknow
A Faulk
Yeah he could’ve awakened to it on 2/2 like Akechi did it or during the final battle, both would be cool and make sense.
I'm not sure this is true,but i remember that someone said that there was a cutscene at the final battle and Joker was supposed to have his 3rd awakening
Max5944 Is weird
Yeah I remember hearing about that too, something about Atlus not being able to do it because of time.
too bad hat
Raoul is arsene's original form and original name for the gentleman thief so technically it's not his 3rd tier it's is 0 tier
Kinda bummed that Arsene & Satanael can’t be used to do this😓
They make Ose, which makes it even more funny
Raoul should have been Arsene’s evolution, like with everyone else’s personas. He should have been able to get stronger in the first game.
NintendoBrother Yeah...Now the only things that make me feel better about this are:
1. Seeing Raoul used against Minato &/or Yu. (Check.)
2. Seeing Raoul used against The Final Final Final Boss. AND most importantly,
3. Seeing an awesome Raoul Build that maybe JUST maybe fitting for Ren’s TRUE 3rd Tier ULTIMATE Persona
Paolo Calapatia Is was thinking it would be more like: Arsene ➡️ Raoul ➡️ Satanael.
NintendoBrother Hmmm...possibly. Despite not y’know correct with fusion. Raoul just said he is Arsene’s true form...This part of the game is confusing😓
Loving Joker's new Line while using Raoul
you mean maniacal laughing?
@@yoghurt6882 Yep Loving it
@@bcl-9384 That too
@@bcl-9384 i thought he said "catch a nap"?
@@equestrianmagic7337 The japanese laugh sounds so much better in my opinion.
Satanael: *kills a god*
Raoul in the background: you’ve been hit by a smooth criminal
That laugh though...
It really is too bad that Raoul is DLC. So can't wait for the new overpowered Persona (Izanagi-no-Okami) showcase though!
This is dlc? That's awful! They make us pay another whole $60 for the game and didn't just include everything? They want us to give them even more money?
@@dragonninja3655 welcome to 2020
@@darkss8758 Laughs in EA
@@rootbeeraddict4885 I mean it happened in persona 5 and no one said anything and for buying royal you get all persona 5 dlc for free which was like what $50 ish
@@darkss8758 honesty as someone who didn't buy persona 5, royals does look really good.
Funny thing is there is official artwork you can get in-game (meaning no dlc) for Raoul, which means that there was a plan for Joker to Awaken to Raoul in the game
But Satanael is canon on final product (not royal version)
4:36 They keep the evil laugh!
Raoul's design looks like the perfect choice for a Bayonetta game now... especially with those shoes...
missed opportunity to make raoul's arcana (spoiler territory, turn back!)
the world, since joker actually gets it at the end of the game this time. it only makes sense as the other third tier protagonist personas had the world arcana.
Agreed.
Satanael's Arcana should have been the World as well.
Isn’t the P4 protagonist the only one who actually has a Persona of the World? (Izanagi-no-Okami)
He does? How?
Patrick Weller Unless you count P1 and P2, Izanagi-no-Okami is the only demon of the World currently (assuming you were addressing me lol)
The fact that atlus made HD models for the persona 3 and 4 protagonist makes me think they're doing a remaster
they're ripped from the dancing games which were put on PS4 a while ago
@@megatonkick0079 no, they look similar to p5 charachters
@@jamespilgrim3774 because of the dancing games since they could do more they just copied the style of P5s models
A bit late but on point with p3
That laugh from Joker tho..
This one is weak. The japanese one is so much better
SirNicholaiIronfist ok....
That's is his cockyness talking
I know when I was playing persona 5 I was very cocky
Arsene : arsene
Satanael : arsene requiem
Raoul : *ARSENE OVERHEAVEN*
Yass
The demon decided to become Michael Jackson with and for the song “SPEED DEMON”
6:37 *Johnny Yong Bosch is back!!!*
I know it’s an exclusive skill, but I feel Raoul should have access to Abyssal Wings. It just makes sense
Joey Chaney 🤔 Is that why no matter how much I sacrifice Abyssal wings won’t transfer? That sucks, I wanted him to have it so bad.
Cicirae yeah, shit sucks, but it’s tsukiomi exclusive to my knowledge. I don’t think it changed in Royal
@@joeychaney9085 Black Viper and Morning star was exclusive skills, but in P5 *original* You could transfer via Gallows **gave Alice both** However it seems like they removed the ability to transfer exclusives completely in this game *Outside of Black Viper so long as you are fusing Satanael* Which is honestly pretty lame, But I can understand why, since it would be completely broken if you could transfer Myriad truths
4:36 Joker sounds very evil when he laughs 😐
Dude... have you SEEN Joker when he's in full Phantom Thief mode? Bro looks like he's possessed by the devil... which, technically, he is.
This is just futuristic arsene either way he looks badass
Drive Check. I might be missing something but I don’t see anything remotely close to satanael here
He looks futuristic because joker and the phantom thieves 3rd tier personas are supposed to represent them looking toward the present and overcoming their past trauma. Well, that's what i think
Drive Check. That actually makes sense thanks!
I have a very rough and probably story-contradictory idea for how Raoul could've been put into the story:
At the third Semester, Joker gets to keep Satanael(albeit without Sinful Shell for obvious reasons), and then in the fake reality, Joker's friends take far longer to break out of the fake world, leaving him to fight Maruki alone with Akechi.
Then, Maruki has Sumire beat the shit out of Akechi, and Joker, completely demoralised that he has no one to fight alongside him, also loses, causing the 2 to be held prisoner in the palace.
Joker then has to break out by realizing that he has his own power, and does not need the power of other arcanas, evolving Arsene and Satanael into Raoul, the true final persona of The Fool.
Again, this is absolute garbage, but in my opinion, Joker himself should've been given an arc in the third semester which leads to him developing Raoul, instead of Raoul being dlc
Part of me thinks they didnt bring him back because of strikers weird powerscaling it probably wouldn't make too much sense but it seems satanel is a one time use, I still think joker is plenty strong with his metaverse boost, who knows maybe they'll do something for him in persona 5 arena or a different spin off
@@chibs1235 even if they did exist in strikers they would be in the orginal p5 where no 3 tiers exist and they would just have their classic personas anyway and even in spin offs yu uses izanagj final form in a final smash move in arena and if minato was in arena he would just use Orpheus or telos i hope but either way Liz would have thantos and would help minato with the messiah attack and launch the power of what the universe arcana can do maybe a great seal move which it traps them in a small space and hit by the holy light and blow up and then min thx liz but she hugs and kisses him on the cheek and leaves him but either way they won’t appear cause they don’t want to make the sl links seem cannon or they just form back to their original form if they haven’t used them for awhile and gets back to its prime once they got enough spirit energy that’s why sees have their personas in their ultimate forms cause they fight shadows constantly but the investigation team and phantom thieves don’t as they barely use their personas as they completed in saving the world but now don’t need the powers and the world of personas as there are no threats so they just act like normal humans while their personas grow weak and go back to their old selves while sees fights the shadow world and make humanity not think of death
Yeah I don't like it either. The whole thing about the Wild Card is that it derives power from Confidants. Arsene came to Joker to help Ryuji. Satanel came to Joker when the will of the masses wanted to be freed. Igor tells us that just how the Tricksters powers work. The thought that Raoul was born by forsaking his Confidants and using his own power is similar to what Akechi did. Which limited him to two Persona. And even then his 3rd Tier Persona is only unlocked when you agree to fulfill his wish of not being controlled even if it means his death. So yeah I'm not with it but I like the imagination but Joker is the pillar of ...... everybody if he forsake everyone the world would definitely be doomed
@@ValiantStranger12
It's not that Joker completely abandons his friends, it's moreso that he discovers his own individual strength, and realizes that he is still extremely strong, even without his friends.
Why is he dlc? That’s just downright greedy on Atlus’s part.
Because money. Seeing how much u can take from people before they all unanimously say "No More"
@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 supposedly its due to time constraints which I insist in Bullshit.
@@ultrawinggaming9764 if that's the case he should be free dlc then
According to Atlus West, all of the dlc from vanilla P5 will be free for P5R while P5R will have its own dlc
@@captainkirk5027 I agree but he isn't.
Wait. They name *C H A D* Investigetion Team Boy?
It’s his stunt double. Chad would be too powerful to bring into that world
Well, Raoul is a Persona I’m definitely willing to buy. It looks so cool! Plus as far as we know, Joker is technically the only one that doesn’t awaken a third tier Persona through the story.
You could technically make the fight last forever and earn infinite points by healing him with sleep
One interesting fact I recently found out was that Joker's Japanese VA and Yu's English VA voiced Lelouch from Code Geass
I mean in theory he seems like a beast the same way Orpheus tells was. His trait also does more weakness damage if you build him right plus technical damage is actually digusting now in royal.
Telos* I got you fam
Arsène: The Gentleman Thief
Satanael: The Demon Lord
Raoul: The Smooth Criminal
Why the hell is the final persona tier for the MC locked behind a paywall? he should've awakened to it during the fight with maruki this is BS!
That actually would’ve been kinda cool.
Imagine an all-out brawl between Satanael and Adam Kadmon ending in the latter’s victory, forcing Joker to awaken to Raoul.
they dont know how to implement it in the game, so, they decided to make him a dlc
Raoul looks like the greatest Pokémon trainer ever
You’ve been hit by... you’ve been struck by...
*A SMOOTH CRIMINAL! OW!*
Let me fix this:
You've been hit by, you've been struck by
A SMOOTH CRIMINAL
Yu: ow
Arsene Raoul “Michael Jackson” Lupin
Summoning Satanael: Gathers like 8 Personas including Mutiple Ultimate Perosna
Summoning Raoul: Lilith and some Angel
Making all enemies sleep first turn + technical damage (Any attack) is amazing
They missed the oportunity to actually incorporate Raoul into the story. They could've made Joker awaken him during the last fight with Maruki and let the player to unlock him later at NG+ along with Satanael.
Hazy Presence seems like the beat-suited trait for raoul, it makes sense for Joker and follow up attacks are so good. There are plenty of other personas with the relentless trait.
Imagine if fusing Arséne and Satanael was the only way to summon Raoul.
Persona 5 Royal = Full experience 60 $ + 30 $ for DLC
Vanilla version = 20 $ in the store
Persona 5 Royal on the Nintendo Switch = $27 and tax which includes the DLC for free
"not the best, but certainly not the worst"
Yeah I guess it's a decent way to describe Raoul
Shame that you have to pay to get it, but I love Raoul's look. It looks awesome!
And that evil laugh is absolute ear candy!~ 😄
*Joker is becoming psychotic with Raoul..*
Satanael was the strongest form of Joker's power, formed by the hearts of the masses to defeat an false god.
Raoul however, is the true form of a thief who just does what's right.
i got admit that ult is damn strong able to put even a boss to sleep isnt a easy status effect to put on a boss
4:36 That laugh tho.
idk how you can go from arsene to satanel to then raoul.
I feel like it should be like this: arsene-raoul-satanel. oh well
Ok.. Raoul is a cool Persona, that I can see.
But Yu is called “Investigation Team Boy”. So I guess crossovers like with Star Ocean can call him Yu Narukami but official persona games can’t call him that???
He doesn't have a canon name.
He's called Yu is other games to make it easy to identify him. Even in Q2 he was just given the name Persona 4 Hero. He's whoever you want him to be. Personally, I call him Virgin in-game cause I think it's funny lol
Technically yeah, none of them have a canon name but that said, out of all of them Yu is probably the closest to having an official name. He's basically Yu Narukami in almost anything else I can think of. Hell I've gotten used to calling him Yu myself.
It's kind of interesting, they seemed like they were never able to come to a similar consensus about P3 protag's real name or even Joker's real name but the P4 protagonist is different. I even just looked him up to see if he's gone by other names and the damn wiki just lists him as Yu Narukami rather than P4 protagonist. lol
@@markkoehr5003 He does though
Dat Squirto If he had a cannon name then why do they use different names in different installments?
They called arsene a gentleman for a reason. And the answers lie within the fedora
Now we all know that Raoul would be called Smooth Criminal in the JoJo universe.What I want to know are his stats and stand ability.
Post your ideas here👇
This is actually his 2nd his 3rd is satanael they just added an in between
Is he gonna be separate dlc on Day 1 or is he only part of the ultimate edition content for now?
forceaidan8 I’m pretty sure Day one since he was in japan
Day 1. It will be in the bundle for the DLC persona
"Known to be a man of many friends, lovers, and treasured allies"
Literally Joker's version of Orpheus Telos. Cut content.
Raoul is actually one of Arsene Lupin's many alias identities.
He's just Arsene wearing a new outfit and a name change... to avoid a trail of angry ex lovers, I'm sure.
In Persona 6, will we see Raoul or Arsene/Satanael Picaro?
Fabrizio Crinó They will definitely bring them as dlc if persona 6 does happen but it won’t happen because the people who worked on persona 5 are working on another project in a brand new company. They were only able to make persona 5 royal because they had ideas that weren’t used in the original game due to restraints
@@haridojamaru829 So we won't see Persona 6 for a long time....
Am I the only one who thinks his combination should be Arséne and Satanael to stay in tune with the other teammates persona fusions?
It's pretty cool when you have the same name as your Persona!
They changed Igors va right?
Ya original va died
This real sad
Mini Muzza sources?
Daniel Woren, the voice actor who voiced Igor in P3 and P4, is still alive. Kirk Thorton is Igor’s current voice actor as of P5.
The Japanese VA, Isamu Tanonaka, died on Jan. 13, 2010. Igor’s role has been limited since then. And every time he makes a appearance, they reuse the VA’s performance from the archives.
Correction/elaboration: His original JP died. As far as I know, English Igor is the same.
Joker's mad laugh gets me to places.
Did that say DLC next to his 3rd tier persona?
Yeah, Raoul is a dlc persona
Well that’s dumb
I'm still trying to wrap my head around why they made him DLC in the first place.
Cross Slash: High Accuracy
Joker: *I think the fuck not*
I was waiting for the English version of Chad Yu to appear
futaba, I love you but can you please not flirt with me while im fighting for MY LIFE
Essentially, a better Arséne without being super broken like Satanael
We were somewhere around Shibuya near the edge of the palace when the buffs began to take hold...
It’s a bit jarring hearing him say that name cause my name is Raul (missing the O but more or less pronounced the same) so it’s like whenever he says it, I’m like “what’s up dude? You need something?”
Put your name in game as Raul then, and its triple Raul confusion!
funni n original I’M RAUL HES RAUL WE ALL RAUL
So, it’s literally joker as a persona
DLC? Excuse me but this ain’t EA
Even EA has never rereleased a game full price + 30$ of the dlc
Take or leave it
out of curiosity, if you were to build Raoul as you would a Party Member's Persona, what would you give him?
I'm thinking "Universal Law" as the trait with
Eigaon , Maeigaon, curse boost, curse amp
Phantom Snow, Concentrate, Ali Dance, Drain Bless (cheating, but fair since he doesn't get anything unique)
I find it hilarious that Joker's ultimate Persona, can send his enemies to sleep.
Raoul is his second persona and the evolution of Arsene. Satanael is his third tier persona.
No it’s the other way around actually
@@kixer7957 Technically Raoul exists outside of canon, since he is a DLC character. However if they had actually inserted him in as he is with his current stats, he would most definitely be considered his second tier. He is significantly weaker then Satanael and no third tier Persona are weaker then their second tiers.
Why do you reapply debuffs so often? I'm not overly familiar with the combat system, but why not debilitate once and then attack afterwards?
I think dibilitate is 30% less def
And heat riser is 30% base atk
So it’s:
1.3 • 1.43 • 2.5 ≈ 4.65
Just dibilitate is:
1.43 • 2.5 ≈ 3.6
Considering he plays in merciless mode it would also be:
4.65 • 3 ≈ 13.95
3.6 • 3 ≈ 10.73
1 • 3 = 3 (no buffs)
So technically all three together are stronger. But also dibilitate is better that heat riser. But these calculations are kinda not concrete since the game still has more in terms of damage input (ex. Rage plus knockdown = 4 multiplier)
Also this is a very late explanation but still
So does anyone know if Santaneal is a better person gameplay wise? Or does Raoul take the cake slightly by having a powerful sleep move + technical damage?
Satanael are a lot better now, probably the best almighty user in the game if you don't have the new DLC persona since Tyrant's Mind + Megidolaon deals more damage than Morning Star.
And yes, you could still boost those moves with Almigthty Boost + Amp & Magic Ability for more power.
Raoul really strikes me as a second tier persona for Joker rather than a third tier. Like i know it was just for dlc purposes but i think it makes a lot of sense to get Raoul somewhere along the lines after Sae's palace maybe? then Satanael is the true third tier persona.
Satanel is more powerful, but it can only be summoned when the hearts of the masses are in full support.
Raoul on the other hand literally calls itself the true form, so it's probably Joker accepting his calling as the trickster and not needing the public's help anymore.
Everybody gonna ignore that he is a 'level 99 harem'(look at top right corner of the screen)
Why does everyone say that Raúl is the 3rd person in joker? isn't that satanael? I don't understand
Or is it that first it is arsene then satanael and finally Raoul?
Raoul....Raoul.....Royal.
Raoul felt like cut content like protag's ultimate persona if atlus followed the original pattern of the ult persona's design not delving much from the base persona (i.e. messiah vs orpheus, izanagi no okami vs regular izanagi)
I maxed out his stats along with
Kaguya
Orpheus
Thanatos
Messiah
Izanagi
Magatsu izanagi
Izanagi-no-okuma
(+picaro versions)
Alice
Ishtar
Cybele
Satanael
Ongyo-ki
Satan
Yushitsune
Fafnir
Alillat
Hastur
Baal (love his skill tbh)
All so I got everything I paid for. Getting the rewards in the den makes it so much easier tho.
Would have been cool if, instead of DLC, he was just the result of fusing Arsene and Satanael, and that any other fusion that would otherwise result in him would navigate somewhere else.
Raoul's maximum dmg on his eigaon w/ status ailment, curse amp and boost, Heat riser and concentrate is around 4-5k which is pretty alright.
Now Ren has become "true Slim Shady" himself and he had unlocked "Criminal" title.
I n v e s t i g a t i o n T e a m B o y
I think people sleep (ha) on how absurd phantom show is
Like yeah it's not myriad truths
But a guaranteed status ailment that puts the entire enemy team on pause, gives you a free crit/down no matter what you hit it with, allowing you to completely bypass all resistances, WITH the absurdly low cost of 4 FREAKING SP
Like, just picture Ann uses high energy, than makoto checkmate, yusuke the team wide heat riser, capped with phantom show?
There's a point where compounding multiplications just explode, and phantom show feels like that tipping point on steroids
I feel like if we could have gotten a 2nd, and 3rd tire persona for Joker these would be how to get them. if you keep Arsen you level him up to a certain level, but you also have to max out the phantom thieves to get their 2nd tire, and for the third one that’s gonna be harder, you have to max out all confidants, everyone has to be rank 10, and the 2nd tire persona would have to be max as well, once you do that third tire persona, and it gets new stats, and abilities. That’s what I think then just making it dlc
Raoul looks cool but does anyone else thinks its unfair that he's DLC he should already be in the game. Also just a nitpick but hiw is he 3rd tier when Satanael is infinitely bettter than him?
I think he's supposed to be a "failed" attempt at fusing Satanael with Arsene, as Satanael was created with the entirety of Japan's (Possibly Za Waurdo's) rebellion against Yaldabaoths rules it would be difficult for Joker to attain the same power as he did then. Henceforth that's why Raoul isn't as powerful. As a tier, it would probably go Arsene < Raoul < Satanael.
Idk this is what I've just heard but one thing is for sure though.
He's by far the coolest yo
Joker: is about to be attacked.
Futaba: *NoooOOOOooOOoOoooO!!!!!!!!!!*