The fact that joker just kills you instantly with the move he used to kill god if you even DARE to do too much damage to him in one turn is so badass yet must also be infuriating.
Honestly Joker is just an average SMT protagonist fight, they didn’t give any respect to the protagonist fights in persona 5 royal; glad Joker is an actual challenge in persona 3 reload. This how strong a protagonist or main character from a previous entry should be for future reference. The Makoto and Yu fights in P5R were disappointedly easy and they were nerfed for those fights.
@@thedigitalfortress The fights with 3 and 4 in royal was not even a boss fight. Its just a way to score as high as possible with specific moves. Thats way different from the real fights w/ Zabby, Phil and w/ Joker here. Im not even gonna call that a "fight".
@@thedigitalfortress completely agree here. I consider makoto to be the strongest protagonist above joker and yet in p5r he was easy. Joker looks way harder in this game than makoto was in p5r and that doesnt do Makoto OR Yu any justice.
I really don’t get how that fight played out I’ma be honest? Like tf was the player doing for the first like 5 turns? He literally cast wind break twice almost in a row with yukari? He never really bothered to keep any buffs up on the party and somehow he still won relatively easily? Hard my ass! And don’t tell me the buffs would have cost too much sp/potential hp the menus said most of those moves costed in the 30s of sp and bro still finished with at least 200 sp on everyone left so no. This fight looks easy as shit.
@@beyondawesomegaming3517 Thats what i noticed too. The comments saying this is gonna be some demi-fiend level boss. But then i watched the full fight... I saw joker barely does 150 dmg on a downed aigis with weak hit and cruel attack. Not to mention that abysmal heat riser + charged megidolaon... He barely does any damage throughout the entirety of the fight yet people are going nuts. Not to mention bro is locking in on that fight UNOPTIMZED. If you does that shit against Elle-P in FES or Portable youre gonna get one shotted. Anyways im waiting for mfers to do a "Lvl 1/No persona/No theurgy 1 turn" type of vids on joker like w/ Demifiend and Elizabeth.
To a guest character in Catherine full body the first dlc fighter in Super Smash bros Ultimate then a special unlockable bot in Astro Bot and now a super hidden boss I’m sold
This is just a theory but, When Maruki took over mementos, he should have access to everyone in japan's subconcious. Which includes SEES. So what is Maruki made a cognitive Joker and sent him back in time to try to save Makoto Yuki because the member's of SEES wanted him alive.
Joker is everywhere. From guest appearances, DLC character, DLC costumes, and even in mobile games like AFK Arena, Last Cloudia, Dragalia Lost, Grandblue Fantasy, and Another Eden The Cat Beyond Time and Space, to name a few. I wouldn't be surprised he'll comd back for Persona 6 and even Honkai Star Rail.
well, joker at least has to wait a while on HSR though, we are having the fate/stay night UBW timeline cast first and "archer" is already a confirmed character there
I think it’s always funny that whenever you fight a protagonist of another SMT game it’s always the regular battle theme playing, implying that to your party to them is just a regular enemy encounter
Kinda scary to imagine that all of the main characters in these games are such monsters that unless another main character was there with a world icona level persona it's just a one sided beatdown where they control all the cards. When playing the games you don't even feel the difference but yeah that really is the case
So... Joker's stock seems to consist of: - Arsene (Main) - Satan - Attis - Anubis - Satanael Overall, he seems to be using mostly "Dark Divinity" themed personas. Arsene, Satan and Satanael being fallen angels, while Attis and Anubis being cathonic gods
@@josephtripp1696 in p5r I like they use social links that are close to them like kohryu and sraosha represent dojina and nanako. Makoto used sigfried and Attis for yuko and maiko. Joker used Attis to for iwai
I'm on heartless and I entered the fight once just to try it out. The music was Take Over instead of Last Surprise and he insta killed us before we got a turn. I must have done something wrong
Before we have SEES Boy, Investigation Team Boy, and now we have 'Masked Boy!' Welcome to the Club. (The Persona 1 and 2 MC are still waiting for their remake)
Why does it seem like, Joker and his whole hidden conditions deal where if you fail or do something that's illegal, he's essentially mirroring the "torture" he went through in his "rehabilitations" battles. like... Will of Rebellion and Cruel Attack is his counterpart to the Baton Pass and "Chainsaw"
Joker using Atis in my eyes is so hilarious because atis was so absurdly busted in Royal. It had a passive that let u use ambush only skills in regular battles and one of those skills was thermopylae which gave your entire party a heat riser to all stats.
Fuuka: MR EDOGAWA?! Joker: Yamagishi? Takeba? Iori? Sanada-kun? Kirijo-san?! What are you guys doing here and did you guys do your homework? You guys have a test coming up. Shouldn’t you guys be studying? And who’s the elementary school student and what are those action figures figures doing in your little group? Yukari: it all makes sense now 😅😅 Junpei: no way! Mr. Edogawa’s a Persona User?!
@@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 it would be cool if the abyss of time pulled the actual Joker from 2016, and he just went back after and told the others about it
Makoto Y: Lemme at em! Stupid door enchantment... Can't believe you guys get bodied by that bum Ren A.: I was just going to change the heart of the McDonald's manager. Burger and Fries cost too high! Yu N.: *still planting cabbage*
I guess you didn't watch JoJo then. In that, there is an orangutan stand user but its stand is a huge ass ship. Also an insane battle between a dog and eagle stand user.
JoJo so far has had as Stand users: -An orangutan -A dog -A sentient sword -A hawk -A rat -A flower sprouted from a cat's body -A ghost -A turtle -The same turtle but possessed by a ghost -A colony of plankton -A homunculus cloned from the hand bone of a dead vampire -A tree -Literally a street
Ugh, looking at this fight, I can see why no All-Out Attacks were used. This is gonna be a tough one. But good to hear some P5 music again after so long.
@@brandonhawker6597The whole battle is just Joker being patient and holding back entirely, knowing he could just hit them with satanaels bullet and end it all he's just trolling now
Atleast they didn't give him complete lore accuracy or this fight would've been impossible. Black myth wukong would've been a saint compared to the disrespect joker lore accurately can dish out
@@tjwizzy True but would want to see bro stealing evokers , taking items, shooting us with unblockable bullets, inflicting despair,and then waiting til you get him to half health just to use trump card to recover it all and gain an attack boost all at once and that's not taking that he is only using magic within p3 magic system not p5 and that would be him being nice because unlike the other protags Aside from EP tatsuya he doesn't fuck around too much goes for the kill very quickly Edit: and all this not even a complete of shit he does
Fighting Joker was cool, but it would have been more awesome to fight an unknown Persona-user that would later be revealed to be the protagonist for Persona 6.
@@JCaesar71306 plenty of reasons, promoting the new game, generating interest/hype for the new IP using an existing series and maybe giving people a sneak peak of what would be in the new game
Joker: Well thanks for the practice now I go to fight with Narukami 😂😂😂 Aegis: ¡Wait, we was just a practice! Joker: sorry dude but your leader was a easier rival I need someone more powerful Aegis: now I feel pathetic
Can we just agree that Joker did 1v4, and stood against them for 15 minutes straight? If it was a 1v1 against each one of them, he completely obliterates them💀
joker has such strong toughts there is a "personification" of him wandering around the "mementos" around time and space, also can we just agree bro is a menace? appears out thin air, beats the shit of random ppl, leaves.....no further elaboration.
I swear I scrolled by this video coincidentally and when I stopped and Joker reached for his mask, "Last Surprise" started playing in my head. When I turned on the sound, I was completely in sync.
@@flashback860ah whatever. It’s happened before. The twins not only diarahan each other once per fight but they also have unlimited samerecarm on eachother if you knock one out but not the other. The fight can quite literally go on forever if you don’t get both of them on the same turn.
13:50 Really? Why do I feel like Akechi made this wish or something just so he can see Joker/Ren to battle once more and being a rival together, creating this copy of Joker in this Abyss of time?
What if it wasn't just Akechi but the entire Phantom Thieves group after the true ending, since Joker left for his hometown afterward (before Strikers/Scramble though when he came back)
Anybody who have more then 9999 hp tanks Armagedon, try use it on Takaya then Hang man shadow fight, he will tank it until he not finish his speech even if he have less hp then need.
@@SaShA6572it’s called plot armor actually. If something like Armageddon existed in p5r it would never work on the boss fights because they have phases. So there’s no point. Of course one day they’re gonna make someone who naturally has more than 9999 health.
In fact pretty sure bro can tank 2 armageddons if my math is mathing correctly. Literally spongiest enemy in smt as far as I’m seeing. I thought 15 k hp on yaldaboth and Maruki was bad
@@beyondawesomegaming3517 Elizabeth literally has 20,000 hp while also using healing after getting below 10,000 once. If you use armageddon in the wrong time against her she literally once shots, you in FES and Portable. This boss fight is literally acake walk.
Persona 3 Episode Aigis or The Answer: A chapter that is story of the side characters to both figuratively and literally learn to move on and to continue the fight to where the world will no longer subconsciously wish for the end to come as a promise for a fallen friend... 😔 ...YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMMIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😎
He is not. Joker cant use fusion spells like Makoto and he didnt defeated a god, creator of the Velvet Room, or the devil like Tatsuya in Persona 2 Inoccent Sin and Maya on Eternal Punishment
@@soulreaver6546 you forgot the "Velvet Room creator" part. And theres also a chance that Philemon is the creator of the world on Persona so yeah, Tatsuya is still more powerfull
Actually In p5r literally every persona could in theory learn every move that wasn’t exclusive in some way I had an arsene with black viper that had 99 in all stats with all the magic ability almighty boost nonsense and heat riser along with also passive skills to null bless and ice to make him weakness free. So this is pretty on brand.
Soooo here's what I would've done if I were Atlus. Seeing how my fanbase has to pay 35€ for this and how difficult the fight is, I'd give my loyal fanbase a little more cheese for beating Joker, I'd give a bit of lore for his appearance: After being defeated, Joker would state that he had just defeated Maruki, was on the Morgana-copter, and as everything faded to white, he got a good last look at Akechi, and thought to himself "If only I could save you". This wish correlated to Aigis' wish of saving Makoto, and the Abyss of Time connected them through this shared wish to save a loved one. Then Joker would start fading away, and he'd tell Aigis that he hopes her wish comes true and to meet again one day, as allies instead of adversaries. Aigis would nod, she'd tell him that she hopes his wish comes true as well, and Joker would leave. Cut to the Royal ending, where Akechi briefly appears outside the train Joker took to leave. The end.
Fight can go in the bin. This is some top tier BS. even SMTV I had a better time lmao.
Tbf smtv has better combat than 4a, and 4a had the best combat at the time
Mad respect for lining up Koro's finisher with the chorus though.
I don't know if I'm remembering right but isn't Omnipotent Orb the item the reaper drops in P5R?
@@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 No, Lavenza gives you that
@@PhantomOfTheNight ah, it's been awhile since I've played P5R, thanks for correcting me though 😁
Shows up
Beats the shit out of grieving people
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
Yeah i can see why hes on probation
@@huskydylan6178 fr dude cannot stop physically assaulting people
Damn brat, ill sue
What's his fucking problem
Maybe in Joker's perspective, he's doing an event battle from his velvet room
Joker: I have a score to settle with SEES Boy.
Aigis: He's dead
Joker: How unfortunate... For You!!
and then Joker died, the end
He was survived by Akechi and their children
Joker: I remember you from somewhere aigis: yeah I remember you too
I beat his ass so bad lol
@@000-v7jI was only there to help them become stronger without him
It’s so weird to actually hear a full loop of Last Surprise after years of Persona 5 encounters being really short.
Well that Reaper boss fight is a bit of an exception unless you have the Myriad Truths.
@@minneeagleor if you have a different costume on
It took me a second to realize why he's using Anubis. Anubis weighs the hearts of the dead to judge them. Joker is the Phantom Thief of Hearts.
I just used Anubis bcuz he had access to both curse and bless attacks but sure… let’s go with that👍
he used anubis because he remembers how much of a mfer that guy was in futaba's palace
Be grateful he’s not pulling out Mot for -Dragon Eye- Mickey Mouse Clubhouse
@@darienb1127 I do like the symbolism in this fight when you look deeper into it, despite it being BS
@@KhangNguyen-ij4xh Will of Rebellion is basically his dragon's eye and he can and will use it to go to 9999 sinful shell 💀
So just saying. The music of choice is last surprise, that means that to Joker, SEES is just a normal random encounter
Tbf, you can say that about makoto and narukami in p5r
For you, the day you fought another SMT protagonist was the worst day of your life.
For him, it was Tuesday.
Oh no we are gonna have these comments forever now
I mean there is no Makoto around only the SEES crew so yeah his Main Character Aura overpowers theirs! XD
Atlus bought him back again. They’re gonna make him keep doing this until he’s 90
UNTIL HE’S 90!!! 🤫
ur dragging it
I caught the joke lmao.
does that make makoto yuki atlus jesus?
People used to day the same back in the day about Yu and the Persona 4 milking but now with Joker no one minds 😂
Joker: “Did we beat Aigis?”
Arsene: “That was Koromaru…”
LOOL
😂
The last video this guy did he got destroyed by joker lmao
Joker absolutely stomps story and game wise 😂😂
@@Satisfied-doggo common persona fan L smh.
"A special battle against a cognitive echo of a certain Persona-user that saved humanity from eternal subjugation."
Mmm, perhaps make it a little more humble.
"A special battle against the cognitive echo of a certain Persona-user who broke free from tyranny."
@@GabyEzePereiraI mean, Royal called Makoto "a certain Persona user who prevented the fall of humanity"
@@Helix_101 Yes, and Yu's "dispelled a strange, otherworldly fog." (but he did save humanity, too). Anyway, i personally prefer the humbler options ;)
Both?
Both?
Both. Both is good.
Both? Nah THE THREE OF THEM ARE THE G.O.A.T.
The fact that joker just kills you instantly with the move he used to kill god if you even DARE to do too much damage to him in one turn is so badass yet must also be infuriating.
Honestly Joker is just an average SMT protagonist fight, they didn’t give any respect to the protagonist fights in persona 5 royal; glad Joker is an actual challenge in persona 3 reload. This how strong a protagonist or main character from a previous entry should be for future reference. The Makoto and Yu fights in P5R were disappointedly easy and they were nerfed for those fights.
@@thedigitalfortress The fights with 3 and 4 in royal was not even a boss fight. Its just a way to score as high as possible with specific moves. Thats way different from the real fights w/ Zabby, Phil and w/ Joker here.
Im not even gonna call that a "fight".
@@thedigitalfortress completely agree here. I consider makoto to be the strongest protagonist above joker and yet in p5r he was easy. Joker looks way harder in this game than makoto was in p5r and that doesnt do Makoto OR Yu any justice.
I really don’t get how that fight played out I’ma be honest? Like tf was the player doing for the first like 5 turns? He literally cast wind break twice almost in a row with yukari? He never really bothered to keep any buffs up on the party and somehow he still won relatively easily? Hard my ass! And don’t tell me the buffs would have cost too much sp/potential hp the menus said most of those moves costed in the 30s of sp and bro still finished with at least 200 sp on everyone left so no. This fight looks easy as shit.
@@beyondawesomegaming3517
Thats what i noticed too.
The comments saying this is gonna be some demi-fiend level boss. But then i watched the full fight... I saw joker barely does 150 dmg on a downed aigis with weak hit and cruel attack. Not to mention that abysmal heat riser + charged megidolaon... He barely does any damage throughout the entirety of the fight yet people are going nuts. Not to mention bro is locking in on that fight UNOPTIMZED. If you does that shit against Elle-P in FES or Portable youre gonna get one shotted.
Anyways im waiting for mfers to do a "Lvl 1/No persona/No theurgy 1 turn" type of vids on joker like w/ Demifiend and Elizabeth.
Nice to see Joker’s using the Arsene build he brought to Smash
Even used his neutral special just to show the difference between those fakers and him
Imagine if Joker has access to DLC personas and the first thing you see is Izanagi-No-Okami Picaro.
That would be really funny
Joker: Roul phantom show
Joker: izanagi no okami picaro Myriad Truths
The damage 9999,9999,9999 critical
the moment he gets more turns: phantom show, concentrate, myriad truths
I would rage while laughing
Low-key might be an impossible bossfight, my joker had too many op personas
The Holy Trinity:
SEES Boy, Investigation Team Boy, and Masked Boy
Door kun, Glass Kun, and Chair Kun
Truly the Boys.
The boys
This is definitely a "The Boys" moment, now we just need a Homelander boss fight.
SEES girl… 😔
This is so surreal finally seeing Joker on the other end after playing as him for so many years.
It really is.
In phantom X he even spoke, lol
To a guest character in Catherine full body the first dlc fighter in Super Smash bros Ultimate then a special unlockable bot in Astro Bot and now a super hidden boss I’m sold
Atlas will make you love him.
He was Dragalia Lost’s Second Legend despite Megaman was Dragalia Lost’s very first legendary.
@@ai_dan50cal73 looking cool Joker
@@Lemuel928Hey! I played Dragalia Lost too! It was awesome!
Atlus is memetically manipulating us to make joker our favourite character in fiction.
I guess Atlus had too much fun creating this boss.
Yu Hashizume, Atlus/P-Studio Planning Supervisor and xeen Planners have fun here.
Especially with soo many triggers for insta death , an example being you did too much damage in one turn die
Down shot
Of course it is Joker is Atlus favorite child
Data Joker
At least they stayed true to his character… in that he only has 3 lines of dialogue in the games.
"I should write something"- joker person5 (persona 5)
@@SPEAK_N0_EVIL”I’ll just add this..” - joker (persona5) persona5
Did the calculations and this man has 32,000 health, so he's stronger than literally all the Velvet Attendants.
Twice as much as the twins even
nah. i still wanna fight philemon in modern persona
@@cotyjackson7200 that mf was a problem lol
@@Jack-nj9pi now imagine him being a problem in a modern persona game....and with the banger that was his battle theme on the PS1 (fuck the psp remix)
That's literally the most hp of every boss in the series
This is just a theory but, When Maruki took over mementos, he should have access to everyone in japan's subconcious. Which includes SEES. So what is Maruki made a cognitive Joker and sent him back in time to try to save Makoto Yuki because the member's of SEES wanted him alive.
Maybe . Tho maruki could just do that himself in the present.
I guess if we’re going off alternate timelines, then sure .
That's... actually not a bad explanation
This actually... make sense
No, the real answer is that this is not canon.
That actually could’ve worked which is weird but hey I guess the more connections the better
I can't wait people to win joker using the most stupid challenges.
Can i beat joker using only pixie on mercyless
Well the challenges are limited because of insta death for doing too much damage per turn
@@Doktor_dooomtbh, Demifiend’s pixie is some of the best -demon- persona you can pull out so don’t diss her like that
“…A connection to grant a wish.”
**everyone looks at Maruki**
Maruki: “What?”
Joker is everywhere. From guest appearances, DLC character, DLC costumes, and even in mobile games like AFK Arena, Last Cloudia, Dragalia Lost, Grandblue Fantasy, and Another Eden The Cat Beyond Time and Space, to name a few. I wouldn't be surprised he'll comd back for Persona 6 and even Honkai Star Rail.
well, joker at least has to wait a while on HSR though, we are having the fate/stay night UBW timeline cast first and "archer" is already a confirmed character there
@@felipevaldivia9940 Never heard or played Fate before.
He was also in NieR Reincarnation. The third NieR game and sequel to Automata.
It's canon by the way. Taro said so.
@@gamerhero9559 Just so you know, that's a hell deeper than the abyss you're walking in to. I should know, I'm a fate fan.
persona x hsr would be crazy and I need it now
Bro I did not just see this mf open up with MEGIDO-FUCKING-LAON
Complete BS but Boss is a Boss
You seen his sinful shell auto counter lol. If you break rules of his fight he just insta wallops
I think it’s always funny that whenever you fight a protagonist of another SMT game it’s always the regular battle theme playing, implying that to your party to them is just a regular enemy encounter
Kinda scary to imagine that all of the main characters in these games are such monsters that unless another main character was there with a world icona level persona it's just a one sided beatdown where they control all the cards.
When playing the games you don't even feel the difference but yeah that really is the case
So... Joker's stock seems to consist of:
- Arsene (Main)
- Satan
- Attis
- Anubis
- Satanael
Overall, he seems to be using mostly "Dark Divinity" themed personas. Arsene, Satan and Satanael being fallen angels, while Attis and Anubis being cathonic gods
He can also use Siegfried.
Man’s been grinding this fight all day.
Does this fight have the same bullshit rules as Elizabeth
@@meatbug8611 Similar rules. They’re arguably more strict, though
@@averytubestudios AIDS
@@averytubestudios bleh
For your party, this was the hardest fight in their lives.
For Joker, it was Tuesday.
Nice SF reference
12:24 and thats why Joker is a cat person
7:27 he can use Down Shot!? That instantly knocks down 1 of your party members, though it doesn't deal any damage.
Seems to only be aimed at Aigis
Go watch his last video lol..
Cruel attacks are more effective on downed enemies
How nice of Liz to let Joker do her entire kit, with little actual variation from the base game fight
Who's Liz?
@@jerryapice1762Elizabeth, one of the Velvet Room attendants.
Yu: So wheres my p3ra invite?
Joker: I stole it
Joker using Satan fits for him. But Anubis isn’t a max confidant persona
Well he gets anubis from futaba palace, who's he's close to and anubis has a scale that usually symbols for justice
He uses out of trauma-spite. Those things were one of the nastier roaming enemy wake-up calls to that point lol.
Well remember that Anubis weighs the hearts of the dead. Joker is the Phantom Thief of Hearts after all.
@@josephtripp1696 in p5r I like they use social links that are close to them like kohryu and sraosha represent dojina and nanako. Makoto used sigfried and Attis for yuko and maiko. Joker used Attis to for iwai
Neither is Yoshitsune but Yu used him
Bro when I saw “Down Shot” I was like, ain’t no way he’s able to cheese the fight like that. That was a legendary play
Wow Joker will was so strong it transcended through the flow of time to fight Sees 😅
Pity he couldn't drop a few heads up to save the timeline by saving the gorilla.
Everybody gangster until joker says “all will be revealed”
13:21 - I don't think any of us would have wished to encounter them.
Persona Q2 be like: "Oh I beg to differ."
There’s just something about Joker’s voice whenever he says “ravage them.” Most charismatic persona protagonist for real.
Soooo Joker decide to become the Demi Fiend of the Persona series, becominga superboss and treating the other cast as just normal battle XD
I'm on heartless and I entered the fight once just to try it out. The music was Take Over instead of Last Surprise and he insta killed us before we got a turn. I must have done something wrong
your first mistake was playing the game
You never saw it coming
You got ambushed.
@@deniedpasta "I understood that reference"
9:23 Joker straight up stole SHIDOS gimmick
"Damn bot! I'll sue!" - Joker?
Damn dog! I'll sue!!!
ah yes the double heat riser.
Before we have SEES Boy, Investigation Team Boy, and now we have
'Masked Boy!'
Welcome to the Club. (The Persona 1 and 2 MC are still waiting for their remake)
I mean, P1 protag was already "Boy With Earring."
Sadly, though, Tatsuya and Maya have 100% canon names.
Why does it seem like, Joker and his whole hidden conditions deal where if you fail or do something that's illegal, he's essentially mirroring the "torture" he went through in his "rehabilitations" battles. like... Will of Rebellion and Cruel Attack is his counterpart to the Baton Pass and "Chainsaw"
Lavenza is out there watching this somehow from the velvet room with igor and just giddy proud of her attendant.
He probably thought "Huh, Sae was on to something"
The Theurgy strat at the end was a nice touch. If Koromaru didn't finish the job there, then it would've been death for all of you 😂
So you have chosen… Sinful Shell.
It’s crazy how that if he wanted to he could’ve just ended the fight from the jump
@@reap06 Joker when you do something he doesn't like: I GOT A GLOCK IN MY 'RARI
The fact Last Surprise is the battle music shows that this is not your battle. It's Joker's and your team is just trash mobs to him.
He didn't even get the ambush smh what an amateur
Must’ve learned from the Demi Fiend
Joker using Atis in my eyes is so hilarious because atis was so absurdly busted in Royal. It had a passive that let u use ambush only skills in regular battles and one of those skills was thermopylae which gave your entire party a heat riser to all stats.
Fuuka: MR EDOGAWA?!
Joker: Yamagishi? Takeba? Iori? Sanada-kun? Kirijo-san?! What are you guys doing here and did you guys do your homework? You guys have a test coming up. Shouldn’t you guys be studying? And who’s the elementary school student and what are those action figures figures doing in your little group?
Yukari: it all makes sense now 😅😅
Junpei: no way! Mr. Edogawa’s a Persona User?!
Isn't he technically from the future? Because around this time he should be younger than this.
It isn't actually him, it's a cognitive echo of him from the future
The reason is because of The Velvet Room and The Abyss Of Time
The Abyss of Time takes place in a time loop
It’s a literal phantom from the future throwing hands
@@kingkobra4910 Ravage Them!
@@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 it would be cool if the abyss of time pulled the actual Joker from 2016, and he just went back after and told the others about it
Makoto Y: Lemme at em! Stupid door enchantment... Can't believe you guys get bodied by that bum
Ren A.: I was just going to change the heart of the McDonald's manager. Burger and Fries cost too high!
Yu N.: *still planting cabbage*
Ryotaro D: Great vegetables
Lol
Earringed Boy & T. Suou: And we're still a joke to them...
@@TheBanishedWind not jokes just non existent now, at least in Suou's case he's part of a timeline without Maya Amano and the rest
0:20 SUPERHERO LANDING!
Looks cool, but absolutely destroys the knees
finaly, the trio is finished: S.E.E.S. boy; Investigation team boy and masked boy
I'll never get over the fact that a dog is a persona user.
From the very beginning, even a literal shadow can use persona.
And don't complain about a cat using Personas?
I guess you didn't watch JoJo then. In that, there is an orangutan stand user but its stand is a huge ass ship. Also an insane battle between a dog and eagle stand user.
JoJo so far has had as Stand users:
-An orangutan
-A dog
-A sentient sword
-A hawk
-A rat
-A flower sprouted from a cat's body
-A ghost
-A turtle
-The same turtle but possessed by a ghost
-A colony of plankton
-A homunculus cloned from the hand bone of a dead vampire
-A tree
-Literally a street
@@il3fortunato664 a cat? oh you mean the embodiment of human emotions!
Ugh, looking at this fight, I can see why no All-Out Attacks were used. This is gonna be a tough one. But good to hear some P5 music again after so long.
Also because, from what I'm seeing in the comments, if you do too much damage to him at once, he just pulls out Sinful Shell and one shots everyone.
@@brandonhawker6597The whole battle is just Joker being patient and holding back entirely, knowing he could just hit them with satanaels bullet and end it all he's just trolling now
@@The_Biggest_Hater. Fits him perfectly, honestly, given some of the dialogue lines you could choose for him back in Persona 5/Royal.
I like how the dialogue after the fight is literally about how the players wanted to have a fanservice challenge fight
Wish we could fight the Persona 2 Protags. Both of them.
I agree on Maya's side but I don't know about Tatsuya
Nice the developers actually have the battle music in it it’s persona five last surprise 0:43
Nice, I didn’t notice
dlc music from the expansion pass
Atleast they didn't give him complete lore accuracy or this fight would've been impossible.
Black myth wukong would've been a saint compared to the disrespect joker lore accurately can dish out
Sun Wukong still stronger
I mean all mc is canonly overpowered
@@tjwizzy True but would want to see bro stealing evokers , taking items, shooting us with unblockable bullets, inflicting despair,and then waiting til you get him to half health just to use trump card to recover it all and gain an attack boost all at once and that's not taking that he is only using magic within p3 magic system not p5 and that would be him being nice because unlike the other protags Aside from EP tatsuya he doesn't fuck around too much goes for the kill very quickly
Edit: and all this not even a complete of shit he does
Not at all impossible because aigis now has the wild card
if S.E.E.S had complete lore accurate strength they would ROLL him, I mean like he can't steal an evoker if hes fucking dead
P1 protag... you'll be a superboss one day...
Joker what the fuck are you doing here? How did you even get here? Where the hell is everybody else?
Fighting Joker was cool, but it would have been more awesome to fight an unknown Persona-user that would later be revealed to be the protagonist for Persona 6.
So somewhat of a “foreshadowing” fight? 😂
That or maybe the protag of the upcoming metaphor
@@Schion_Awhy would they put the protagonist of a game that they are insisting is a brand new series inside persona?
Kinda like how Kingdom Hearts has Super Bosses that are character who will show up later.
@@JCaesar71306 plenty of reasons, promoting the new game, generating interest/hype for the new IP using an existing series and maybe giving people a sneak peak of what would be in the new game
Dude, Ren and Pokémon Trainer Red would get along so well.
Joker: Well thanks for the practice now I go to fight with Narukami 😂😂😂
Aegis: ¡Wait, we was just a practice!
Joker: sorry dude but your leader was a easier rival I need someone more powerful
Aegis: now I feel pathetic
Joker looking cool as always, this is indeed a boss fight worthy of Atlus' poster boy.
I love how he uses Satan as a potential callback to the Judgment SL of P5
Can we just agree that Joker did 1v4, and stood against them for 15 minutes straight? If it was a 1v1 against each one of them, he completely obliterates them💀
armageddon
joker has such strong toughts there is a "personification" of him wandering around the "mementos" around time and space, also can we just agree bro is a menace? appears out thin air, beats the shit of random ppl, leaves.....no further elaboration.
Man. Joker is one stylish bastard.
I swear I scrolled by this video coincidentally and when I stopped and Joker reached for his mask, "Last Surprise" started playing in my head. When I turned on the sound, I was completely in sync.
Imagine getting a Persona 4 Golden-er, and you fight SEES boy, Mask boy, Boy with Earring, Police Girl & Tatsuya? That'd be cool.
How dope would it have been if he had a Phase 2 with Satanael where the song switched to Rivers in the Desert?
He whips out Satanael to kill you if you don’t kill him when you use Armageddon and at other conditions.
It would be funny if Masked Boy use diarahan on himself after reaching certain amount of hp
I would kill myself if he did that. 😢
Yeah... funny...
@@flashback860ah whatever. It’s happened before. The twins not only diarahan each other once per fight but they also have unlimited samerecarm on eachother if you knock one out but not the other. The fight can quite literally go on forever if you don’t get both of them on the same turn.
@@beyondawesomegaming3517twin fight is still easy
Imagine if thay game read your PR5 save file, if it ia there, and copies over your OP persona builds at random for this fight
13:50
Really? Why do I feel like Akechi made this wish or something just so he can see Joker/Ren to battle once more and being a rival together, creating this copy of Joker in this Abyss of time?
my 1st thought, they still got that duel man
What if it wasn't just Akechi but the entire Phantom Thieves group after the true ending, since Joker left for his hometown afterward (before Strikers/Scramble though when he came back)
*ROUND 2*
Fuuka: Huh?
*Shin Megami Tensei V OST - Battle - Demi-Fiend - plays as Demi Fiend walked out*
Fuuka: Im detecting readings.. It's not a shadow... It's something else....
Demi Fiend: Omae Mou Shindru.
Everyone: NANI-
Demi Fiend: *Instant Kill everyone this facility in 0.1 Seconds*
dude
Pulls out Gaea Rage and nukes everybody
@@RaZorrr420 The glockanitor but for nuking the whole room
Freikugel but also oneshots the sees members currently not in the party
Joker ain't Jokin around anymore
HE TANKS ARMAGEDON!??
Yes and if you use it and his turn is next its an insta wipe
Anybody who have more then 9999 hp tanks Armagedon, try use it on Takaya then Hang man shadow fight, he will tank it until he not finish his speech even if he have less hp then need.
@@SaShA6572it’s called plot armor actually. If something like Armageddon existed in p5r it would never work on the boss fights because they have phases. So there’s no point. Of course one day they’re gonna make someone who naturally has more than 9999 health.
32000hp right?
I like how they give him Attis as a reference to how broken Attis is in P5R.
girl why r u everywhere
Did this man just tank an Armageddon??
He’s got more than 9999 hp
In fact pretty sure bro can tank 2 armageddons if my math is mathing correctly. Literally spongiest enemy in smt as far as I’m seeing. I thought 15 k hp on yaldaboth and Maruki was bad
@@beyondawesomegaming3517 Elizabeth literally has 20,000 hp while also using healing after getting below 10,000 once. If you use armageddon in the wrong time against her she literally once shots, you in FES and Portable. This boss fight is literally acake walk.
Kinda makes me wonder if they might connect the dots when the Phantom Thieves start making waves some 7 or so years later.
Narukami [Calm down, Joker!]
I don't know why but i suddenly thought of Narukami as the Whis to Joker as Bills.
So random XD.
"I'm detecting immense power beyond this point... Stronger than anything I've seen so far."
So Joker stronger than Nyx? DAYMN
Persona 3 Episode Aigis or The Answer:
A chapter that is story of the side characters to both figuratively and literally learn to move on and to continue the fight to where the world will no longer subconsciously wish for the end to come as a promise for a fallen friend... 😔
...YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMMIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😎
It's always so uncanny when you see them crossing over games outside of Q
Persona 5 is basically Atlus's GTA V
Exactly what I always say. They be milking the hell out of P5 like Rockstar does GTA Online.
This battle made look like Joker is actually the strongest protagonist holy wow
He is not. Joker cant use fusion spells like Makoto and he didnt defeated a god, creator of the Velvet Room, or the devil like Tatsuya in Persona 2 Inoccent Sin and Maya on Eternal Punishment
@@ezelalia5739 🤓
@@ezelalia5739he literally killed a god
@@soulreaver6546 you forgot the "Velvet Room creator" part. And theres also a chance that Philemon is the creator of the world on Persona so yeah, Tatsuya is still more powerfull
He got Beaten by Sees without Makoto💀💀💀
Wouldn’t it be f**ked if he had enduring soul?
And of course he looks damn tasty in the UE updated model style.
AS IF ARSENE LEARNED ANY OF THOSE MOVES
Actually In p5r literally every persona could in theory learn every move that wasn’t exclusive in some way I had an arsene with black viper that had 99 in all stats with all the magic ability almighty boost nonsense and heat riser along with also passive skills to null bless and ice to make him weakness free. So this is pretty on brand.
Gallows Fusion go brrrrr
looks like someone doesn't understand fusion in persona 5/royal
Strengthen Persona 🤑
@@brony4869 looks like someone’s being pretentious🤓
The epic entrance was a nice touch,I was expecting him to be just there for no reason
13:02 is that some version of Hoshi To Bokura To or am I crazy?
i fucking love the joke of joker really wanting to settle the score with minato
When are we getting yu narukami next as a boss fight
Real
Even better, boy with earrings and tatsuya.
It just occured to me that Aigis and Joker have canonically met before
They should've give Kotone boss fight, named SEES Girl, which makes the team confuse since they never know her at all.
Joker really time travel to 2010 just to beat the shit out of high school students.
Makoto and Yu wouldve been like this in P5R if everything in P5 wasn't the easiest thing to ever exist
Theurgy makes P3R even easier than P5R
@@OceanicCamels Baton Pass Technical Damage are things that exists
P5R didn't get easier, we just got stronger.
@@OceanicCamelslmao no, theurgy is strong but P5R has way more OP shit you can use
@@shantotto1wife519Like Myriad Truths
Me, upon seeing this: WHY IS HE HERE!?
Soooo here's what I would've done if I were Atlus. Seeing how my fanbase has to pay 35€ for this and how difficult the fight is, I'd give my loyal fanbase a little more cheese for beating Joker, I'd give a bit of lore for his appearance: After being defeated, Joker would state that he had just defeated Maruki, was on the Morgana-copter, and as everything faded to white, he got a good last look at Akechi, and thought to himself "If only I could save you". This wish correlated to Aigis' wish of saving Makoto, and the Abyss of Time connected them through this shared wish to save a loved one. Then Joker would start fading away, and he'd tell Aigis that he hopes her wish comes true and to meet again one day, as allies instead of adversaries. Aigis would nod, she'd tell him that she hopes his wish comes true as well, and Joker would leave. Cut to the Royal ending, where Akechi briefly appears outside the train Joker took to leave. The end.
adachi?!
@@glamgsm LOL, sorry, I corrected it. I meant Akechi
All of this is fine and dandy but this isn’t the real joker so your idea falls apart quickly.
@@protonroxas I'd make him be the real Joker. Simple as that. Non of that "metaverse echo" bs that makes zero sense.
@@TheMightyMRPIt would make even less sense for him to exist here when he would be a child at this time
At this point, the real Joker is probably a child. And he probably doesn't even realize that his "clone from the future" is fighting.
3:36 oracle:
WE NEVER SAW HIM COMING